mess-hall

[naive nest]

Idk this time I haven’t touched since the winter update, but last I checked was the voice chat (yk the main function of the game) didn’t work and everyone was stuck at class level 1

[visual niche]

Same here

[humble rampart]

Same here, I remember playing the beta and being blown away by the visuals, stunning game

[arctic rampart]

The level 1 issue has mostly disappeared. Haven't seen any recent reports of it.
But the voip issues for xbox players specifically are still prevalent

[naive nest]

So game is still broken I’m not surprised

[echo karma]

Oh and you can jump out of airplanes in that game. And bf5 too. Ahhh see what i did there, t17?

[arctic rampart]

https://tenor.com/oXOZ.gif

[naive nest]

What’s a good xbox game that’s like 40gb

[echo karma]

Bf4

[naive nest]

True!

[arctic rampart]

Super@ SiC S3 Conquest Popular maps here I come!

[echo karma]

If you have pc, bf3 has a huge modding scene still

[slender canyon]

Start your game up, force quit it, re open, do that for the first time of each day you play and you’re good. Never had voice issues once

[arctic rampart]

64/64 with 5 in queue

[visual niche]

Just based on people mentioning it here, the comms issues havent been as numerous as before for xbox but I still see some here and there for sure

[naive nest]

IM NOT GOING TO HOTFIX AND TROUBLESHOOT TO PKAY THE GAME

[echo karma]

Makes sense huh?

[naive nest]

If YOU THE CONSUMER have to troubleshoot and improvise to fix the problem then it’s the devs fault for making a broken game

[slender canyon]

Game works fine

[visual niche]

No one is saying that lol

Just trying to help

[echo karma]

I find it wierd too. Haven't had a comms issue since karhkov update. Now wombat used to push for us to get a server reset every few months tho

[naive nest]

Do you have mw3

[slender canyon]

Never played it

[naive nest]

Classic mw3

[echo karma]

Hmm? What do they call that in the EU?

[visual niche]

Wdym by server reset?

[past vortex]

same as everywhere else

[naive nest]

Idk I’m not a europoor

[echo karma]

There isp would reset they servers every like 6 months or so. Would definitely help with server lag

[past vortex]

i think you are confused

:}

[echo karma]

Go threw the console telegrams. I don't have my pc rn or I would

[visual niche]

I just didnt know that, but it kinda makes sense I guess

[past vortex]

wut

[visual niche]

I know a lot of communities will restart their servers once a week or more/less for that purpose

[past vortex]

isps dont controll game servers

[slender canyon]

I’m gonna try get my update sorted soon

[visual niche]

You know what he meant lol

[past vortex]

not really

[visual niche]

Too many 3 letter acronyms.. GSPs, ISPs, CIAs

[past vortex]

and 6 months for a game server restart seems awefully long :D

[thorny acorn]

CCF

[echo karma]

No but they have some crappy server service with someone. It's definitely not Amazon.

[past vortex]

its gportal for the offical servers

[echo karma]

And there servers are the stem of most of the issues I believe.

[past vortex]

well yes, but the server providers are only a part of the problem

the server software is bad too :}

[echo karma]

If I did some unethical things I could get the info but I'm to goody two shoe for that

[thorny acorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1318328801410682923/1356665818305400953/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure.gif

[past vortex]

you dont need to do unethical things to find out the server provider :D

[visual niche]

If its against a EULA, maybe dont post it in the official game discord 😂

[thorny acorn]

who reads those

[quiet grail]

Anyone else notice the flamethrower goes through fuel faster now?

[echo karma]

I'd mostly want to run some programs and figure out why my ping is so bad etc kinda like debugging software

[past vortex]

no need

[quiet grail]

The fuel got shadow nerfed

[thorny acorn]

someone mentioned that they reduced the fuel

[visual niche]

Huks got this one

[slate canopy]

Most don't, but technically you agree to everything in it... You'd be surprised what's in there lol

[past vortex]

its the hll server software that is that bad
on top some servers are badly connected
all are underpowered (some more than others)

[thorny acorn]

yea minecraft had shady stuff in its

[past vortex]

its no secret

[visual niche]

the right to harvest organs in case of premature expiration of bodily functionality when using our product (jk)

[quiet grail]

That kills a lot of my excitement for the buffs 😦
Why do they have to give and take, it

[echo karma]

Eula is straight garbage btw.

[thorny acorn]

idk i was excited to try the game but car seat headrest dropped so i gotta listen to it like 20 times

[visual niche]

I thought you were gonna explain the differences in ping values

Sorry latency values

[past vortex]

i kinda did

fact is even the fastest computer that exists rn is too slow for hll server :}

[echo karma]

But the rules in there for the consumer are actually good. Probaly the best in the world. Mostly the penalties for not giving us what we paid for

[wind shore]

I had a bud who troubleshot his ping for weeks then he just moved out of the city we lived in lmao

[echo karma]

No I want to see a few things that are running in the background which is probably contributing to my high ping despite me living close to the server and/or having high speed fiber internet. I.e. I'd like to optimize the system.

[echo karma]

Bahahaha. Now that is funny

[delicate lance]

How is the new map playing??

[echo karma]

Console wise. Performance better than el Amanda. Flow and feel is bad imo. The storm is horrendous

[past vortex]

hll is about single core performance, both on client and on server
not much you can do about it, even the fastest ryzen is too slow

[visual niche]

The game doesnt use a whole lot of bandwidth when playing, so its not really a speed limitition

Unless you're on dial up

[delicate lance]

Super excited to play it when I get off work today. Gameplay looks solid from what I’ve seen on YouTube

[thorny acorn]

it works alright on dial up, my friend tested it

since for some reason we still have dial up

[visual niche]

Did they actually hahaha

[past vortex]

well ofc the connection can be bad, but even if its perfect you still get lag

[echo karma]

Which means somethings wrong somewhere. Either they know about it, or they don't care. Which is a huge thing holding them back from there competitors

[pseudo heath]

I actually had it last week

[past vortex]

its not fixable

[thorny acorn]

yup, for some reason it was still working untill recently

[echo karma]

Why you think everyone was about to jump ship to that Vietnam hll clone?

[pseudo heath]

Then exited game and all my settings reset. Classic

[past vortex]

they would need to rewrite everything

[thorny acorn]

and the wiring was there

[arctic rampart]

Dragon Pass one sided af

[visual niche]

I tested it on my end one time, and I used ~12MB total download, and like half or less than half uploaded on a full server for an hour

[unreal grotto]

is being stuck on the server list loading a problem for people?

[vivid valve]

Muph what servers u play on

[echo karma]

I dunno how you use an engine and have this bad performance tho. Like I could get if you made your own engine but no

[past vortex]

the math shows thats the max speed for a 36k modem

[echo karma]

Deez nuts lol mostly official or whatever server is up

[visual niche]

Might be loading in slow. You could try steam's server browser if its not working https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1298779877964517498

[vivid valve]

Which region?

[visual niche]

It wasnt a precise test, I just wanted to see a ballpark estimate of it lol

[echo karma]

East coast. Sometimes EU

[past vortex]

im surprised its enough, but it sure makes it slower i guess

what kind of in game ping does that give

[echo karma]

Savannah probably has a few servers. I know Atlanta, Macon. Probaly Atlanta. They have basically everything there. And that's 4 hrs ish from me.

[visual niche]

Probably 30-60ms

[past vortex]

so fast?

[vivid valve]

No new zealand servers lol

[visual niche]

Ive never really had issues with the networking, unless its a server thats about to die and everyone is rubberbanding

[past veldt]

Any day now people will flock to Squad44

[echo karma]

Funny lol no OCE at all?

[past vortex]

too bad their software has the same problem :}

[echo karma]

S44 has about the same issues ngl. Plus alot over complicated. More Arma then arcade bf ripoff

[past vortex]

its what you get when you use unreal engine + plugins without optimization

[visual niche]

Plus 2010 DX11

[past vortex]

i dont think that a problem for the latency

[visual niche]

Yeah its not lol

[past vortex]

its a problem for the gpu usage tho

(with a powerful gpu)

[thorny acorn]

probably not, since it runs even worse than hll

[visual niche]

Probably doesnt know how to make the best use of resources from modern components, since its an aging gfx API

[neon crystal]

I just downloaded the game and it says theres no servers available is this because I have to run the training mode first or what?

[past vortex]

yea it just cant deliver the work fast enough

[past veldt]

Have you downloaded the one which says Hell Let Loose (Public Testing)?

[neon crystal]

Yes.....

[finite berry]

That's the wrong one

[neon crystal]

Was that the wrong one?

[past vortex]

well....

[finite berry]

It's for public testing, like the name suggests

[neon crystal]

........

[thorny acorn]

lol

[past vortex]

thats why it says public testing

[past veldt]

just search for the normal one in your library

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-gif-25177956

[visual niche]

Happens all the time, sometimes it downloads the PTE, sometimes it doesnt, sometimes its both

[neon crystal]

okay so I downloaded both and didnt realize it made the shortcut for the public testing lol so I just need to launch the normal one then xD

[quiet gyro]

they should have made it clearer by naming it Public Testing (for public testing) to be fair

[finite berry]

@neon crystal Don't uninstall it if you have enough space, keep it

[neon crystal]

Thanks

I'll keep it but why?

[finite berry]

So you can participate in public playtests, naturally

Whenever they'll announce one

[past veldt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1320450047002939428/1357062621651664966/attachment.gif

Update is a bit big

[thorny acorn]

lol

[neon crystal]

ahhh makes sense I've never done that lol I pretty much only play Rocket League so never had to do this

[finite berry]

smallest update on Steam

[slate canopy]

Once updated, it's this on steam:

[visual niche]

I redownload it every time for a PTE, but you dont even need it if you don't want to play in the testings

[sinful whale]

Anybody know the name of any uk mic only servers

[finite berry]

Tobruk, the latest map, went through a public playtest before it got officially added to the game; so basically, you can help the devs playtest stuff before it actually goes live to help them find bugs

[past veldt]

This doesn't exist

nowhere will perfectly enforce mic only

[sinful whale]

Are there no servers where you have to have a mic

[thorny acorn]

there are, but they cant enforce it perfectly

[finite berry]

In theory, yes, in practice, no.

[visual niche]

One day they'll add a disclaimer that tells people that its the PTE client 🙏

[thorny acorn]

ssd 😭

wish i had one

[worthy charm]

One day people may understand what "test version" means

[past vortex]

they could add public testing to the name or something

[visual niche]

Ive seen it where it only downloads the PTE version and not the main game

[past veldt]

one day they'll make it not the default download

[thorny acorn]

it kinda has it already

[neon crystal]

TBF I know what it is I just didnt realize it had made a shortcut on my desktop for it

[past vortex]

be realistic

[past veldt]

Hey, I am an optimistic guy

I'm not sure why

[visual niche]

Siege auto downloads both from what I remember

[thorny acorn]

well siege 🤮

[past vortex]

or just be on epic where you simply cant PTE or direct join or anything :D

[past veldt]

if they made it a beta opt in for the main client then they'd probably get populated servers for their PTEs

[slate canopy]

SSDs are cheap.

[slate canopy]

PTE and basegame? Nah, I only have base R6 installed.

[visual niche]

Caching issues, version controls

[past vortex]

that probably would require a total rewrite too

[thorny acorn]

80e cheapest, ig it depends on the country

[past vortex]

50 for a really slow 1TiB

that is still tons better than a disk

[thorny acorn]

im better of with a HDD then, its larger

[visual niche]

Gen 3 m.2 nvme's are probably dirt cheap and lightyears faster than an HDD still

[past vortex]

no

for 50 is sata, that still has like 1000x the IOPS of a hdd even if the transfer speed is only double

[shut grove]

Are servers back up

[thorny acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-gif-12132376810128560925

[visual niche]

It sounded technical so i trust it

[arctic rampart]

Imagine using frag rounds on a saiga 12k

[thorny acorn]

i trust it too but hdd works fine

[past vortex]

fine isnt the correct word

it works somehow

[thorny acorn]

i gotta keep projects somewhere so larger capacity is fine, but i have to look for an ssd true

[past vortex]

damn i still shudder when i remember hdds

[thorny acorn]

idk if i have enough ports tho

[visual niche]

You'll see a massive difference once you switch to an SSD and never go back to HDD

[past vortex]

its the IOPS

[echo karma]

Guys chill poe2 patch notes dropped. Now you wanna see what a real patchnotes looks like?

[past vortex]

hdds have like 50

ssds have 20k+

[echo karma]

They ain't out just yet but I suspect 5k words plus

[visual niche]

Its like going from a 1080p 60z display to a 1440p 144h display or something

[past vortex]

more like 1024x768

[visual niche]

ok going from a CRT to a modern gaming monitor

[past vortex]

yea

[echo karma]

Bad analogy. Floppy to HDD

[thorny acorn]

isnt for the game mb/s more reliable since i doubt random IO matters that much

[past vortex]

it does, up to a point

[thorny acorn]

actually nvm what i said doesnt make sense

[past vortex]

hdd iops just isnt enough for anything nowadays

[echo karma]

Floppy was prehistoric. 99% of yall probably don't even know what a floppy disk is

[thorny acorn]

we all know what it is, dont try to be special gramps

[visual niche]

Yeah that broke my brain for a sec haha

[past vortex]

it does partly, there is no use for a server grade ssd for games

[thorny acorn]

i realised that the game isnt being loaded sequentially

[echo karma]

Now I know yall had cds back then. But them floppy games hit different ngl

[thorny acorn]

in my days we used magnetic tapes

[past vortex]

i had a floppy collection where i overformated the disks and compressed the stuff

it was aweful :}

[thorny acorn]

idk we made a vinyl storage as a joke as one of our projects

[arctic rampart]

You had a floppy

[thorny acorn]

it was awful

[arctic rampart]

Still have a floppy

[past vortex]

how much did you manage to put on it

[echo karma]

Worst thing about floppy was the actual floppy. And floppy drive tho, sounds dumb but you ain't got a floppy drive you can't read my info

[thorny acorn]

idk im the one trying to figure out how to put it in a 10x10x10 box to fly it in space

[echo karma]

What like 10mb? Maybe 30mb?

[thorny acorn]

ill ask the team for that project

[visual niche]

I got 100 of these bad boys

[thorny acorn]

got labels too

[visual niche]

Lifetime warranty

[wind shore]

I read "high density" as "high obesity" 💀

[thorny acorn]

ig it depends on how they choose to save it in the grooves, idk really tho

[echo karma]

Burning cds back in the day was the sht

[past vortex]

yea but only with the best tech
for normal setups more like 2 mb

[visual niche]

accumulated excess mass

[wind shore]

Ngl I "stole" old floppy disks from my work because I love them

There has never been a more satisfying way of storing data

[echo karma]

When you buy a movie or Netflix it and insta burn it lol not today Netflix

[visual niche]

Oregon trail on floppy was ace

[thorny acorn]

they are saying hopefully like 30kb idk why 30 but we do electronics not programming

[wind shore]

If all the nerds work together we can bring floppy form factors to solid state media just because

[visual niche]

Is HLL too big for 100 floppys?

[thorny acorn]

probably

[visual niche]

I wonder if its possible lol

[past vortex]

Microsoft Office 97 Professional edition is provided on a total of 55 diskettes

[past vortex]

yes

[wind shore]

I want to hear the click and gaze upon the colored square

[past vortex]

far too big

[echo karma]

Floppy was bad yes. Like HDD to SDD.

[wind shore]

Floppy on the outside, SSD on the inside 🤌🏻

[past vortex]

more like 28500 floppies

[visual niche]

Someone was trying to run HLL from a usb thumb drive not too long ago

[past vortex]

half of that with all tricks

[visual niche]

Yeah I dont even think that amount exists in the world in total haha

[thorny acorn]

well u have 100

[past vortex]

oh it easily does

[wind shore]

How many of you are at work rn

[thorny acorn]

nope, im 18

[visual niche]

Dont they just degrade because of magnetism or something like that over time

[thorny acorn]

they prob do

[past vortex]

sure do

[thorny acorn]

same as LTO tapes i think

[echo karma]

Yeah like a tape basically. You stick a magent to it and it erases it

[past vortex]

ltos last far longer

[visual niche]

Darn..

[past vortex]

you can still buy floppy disks tho

[visual niche]

There a use case?

[echo karma]

It's kinda like a CD but with tape

[thorny acorn]

now the question is, expand to collecting cassettes too, or save more for vinyl

[echo karma]

They are largely encrypted now. Not many ppl have a floppy drive still

[past vortex]

some crazy old computers that control a machinery that would cost millions to replace
such things exist

[echo karma]

They probably make adapters but that's backwards. Why would you still use floppy?

[visual niche]

Thats pretty much what I had in mind, didnt know if there was some niche modern application haha

[thorny acorn]

bc its cool

[wind shore]

Because of the colored square and the satisfying click

[echo karma]

And there also redundant for security too. You have to put in disk for x. Can't mess that up.

[visual niche]

https://tenor.com/view/goosebumps-voyagers-its-cold-fear-scared-gif-20619751

[past vortex]

no,there is no reason if you are not bound to some crazy ISA controller card

[lucid shale]

wouldnt be difficult

[gentle lintel]

I’m wanted by the ISA but they can’t find me

[lucid shale]

you can run entire operating systems off a live USB stick

[echo karma]

In today's day n age I'd argue a floppy disk has more encryption than anything. Just because no one has a floppy drive or the software to read that archaic language

[gentle lintel]

❌ 🕵️ ❌

[thorny acorn]

ah yes the linux

[visual niche]

Theres no CPU or GPU in a USB drive lol

[lucid shale]

except that software would be pretty cheap nowadays since its old af

[thorny acorn]

you can run your OS from it

[visual niche]

Run the OS on the stick, then install HLL to the OS on the stick?

[lucid shale]

you can still run the OS on a pc with a usb stick since the PC is what holds the cpu and gpu

[lucid shale]

yup pretty much

[past vortex]

hehe, wilful misunderstanding

[thorny acorn]

doubt u could do that

[echo karma]

It's basically notepad. But it's like VHS now? Or a tape player. Nobody has those.

[past vortex]

but it might even be possible that some usb sticks can be hacked to actually run an OS

[echo karma]

You probaly could but man would it be slow.

[visual niche]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-gif-hmmm-calculate-gif-16949472

[lucid shale]

all you have to do is make the USB stick live and install the software onto it then you reboot through the USB stick and itll run the OS on there instead which wont leave any trace on the pc itself

[thorny acorn]

you def can, linux bros have done it

[echo karma]

There write/read are typically slow no for large stuff like that?

[lucid shale]

i could run HLL on a virtual machine if i really wanted to wouldnt be that difficult

[lucid shale]

not rly

[wind shore]

Tails is the first thing to come to mind

[echo karma]

You probably could with GeoForce now, now that I think of it.

[visual niche]

Yeah wouldnt the USB port be the bottleneck if it were possible

[lucid shale]

i prefer kali

[wind shore]

Good choice

[thorny acorn]

there are 4tb usb sticks u can run the whole system on it, its gonna be slow but its possible

[lucid shale]

virtual box as long as i give it enough cpu and set it to run off my game driver it should work pretty well

[visual niche]

I have a stick with a live environment kali laying around somewhere lol

But those are lightweight

[lucid shale]

u would need a bigger USB than 4gb for hll

[past vortex]

you can buy sticks that are faster than a sata ssd

[thorny acorn]

4tb*

my bad

[lucid shale]

ive got a stick for windows a stick for kali and a stick for debian

[echo karma]

Literally geoforce does that. You pay for a virtual machine stream service and boy is it laggy. Cool to play stuff on your TV tho

[primal robin]

bells let loose

[lucid shale]

literally all depends on your USB and your USB port quality

[visual niche]

You're prepared for any IT related situation life throws at you 😂

[lucid shale]

virtual box is free homie

[lucid shale]

i also have a few "do not touch" usbs iykyk

[visual niche]

Sunshine and Moonlight

[visual niche]

For the homework folders

[past vortex]

doesnt have a useful gpu simulation tho
VMWARE free version does tho

[lucid shale]

not exactly

[echo karma]

I assume it's some anydesk program? Virtual machines can get quite taxing tho. And slow af. Depends if you try n run like 4 hll. Yikes

[lucid shale]

ive not used VMWARE so cant comment on that but for what i need virtual box does the trick

[echo karma]

My fav. The ole sparky eh?

[lucid shale]

no its nothing like anydesk

[visual niche]

https://github.com/LizardByte/Sunshine I use this sometimes if I wanna play PC games but sit on my couch with a tv instead lol

[lucid shale]

plug it in and watch your PC commit suicide

[past vortex]

works well if its not 3D
vmware can actually run newer games

[thorny acorn]

guys this seems like a #honeypot convo

[echo karma]

It's surprising how many ppl fall for that security attack too. Never plug in a random USB

[past vortex]

for real VM gaming you need to use a dedicated GPU ofc

[lucid shale]

human error - the downfall of any cyber security

[visual niche]

Free $50 steam gift @ everyone! steamcornumunity.com

[oak current]

post it over at #honeypot

[past vortex]

@ Hll_Moderator

[echo karma]

I love sysk to much. Even better

[thorny acorn]

not even that, just use cyrillic а

now im curious

[lucid shale]

nothing wrong with a little deletion of sys32

[visual niche]

I just made that up

[lucid tusk]

The Canadian armed forces had to wipe almost every computer after someone plugged a mouse from home into a work computer

[visual niche]

But they usually have weird spellings of steamcommunity

[thorny acorn]

well i managed to say a swear word

without the bot detecting it

B)

[arctic rampart]

What's the discord premium called again?

[lucid shale]

not a lot of people realise you can literally buy special chargers that can hold files

[wind shore]

I was watching a documentary on a crime committed in Canada and I was blown away.

[arctic rampart]

That lets you get like emojis from other servers and stuff

[thorny acorn]

steamcommunity (normal) steаmcommunity (changed) its barley noticable

[lucid tusk]

Dude you don't even know how bad it is up here

[thorny acorn]

nitro

[echo karma]

Even better when you get the school admin password lol when computer class just came out. The ole, that's my screen now. Or classic. Shutdown of doom. Hilarious

[arctic rampart]

Oh darn, it doesn't work 😦

[past vortex]

you dont have the perms here

[lucid shale]

nah whats funny is half the school admin passwords are some variation of the school name with 123! at the end

[arctic rampart]

Nah' there was a good mechanic with dc premium back in the day

[wind shore]

Basically, the police thought someone was a cannibal and they commenced to breaking every right an American has to find out dude was trolling. Americans came in and was like, "uhhh...this is sort of human rights violations"

[visual niche]

I always like seeing how creative they get with scamming

[lucid shale]

i hacked my principals computer and turned out he was attracted to things he shldnt be the school got shutdown whilst it was investigated

[thorny acorn]

yup, also add swear words with this--> а , since they work through the bot

[past vortex]

bot is just lame, such things are not that hard to filter

[thorny acorn]

ofc a school worker is a minecraft youtuber

[lucid shale]

was quite funny tbh since there was already rumours going round before i did it that he was that kinda "person"

[thorny acorn]

im just reporting

[visual niche]

get a good amount of these daily

[echo karma]

There are also programs which teach yoh things in a game format style that say "don't use this for illegal stuff" which I never did. Can't remember the name of CMD virtual desk. Teleline or something. Basically CMd way of connecting to someone's pc.

[lucid shale]

BitBurner

[lucid tusk]

We had a teacher in my old middle school that got got, it's scary how many of them are around and still haven't got caught considering new allegations are coming out almost daily now

[lucid shale]

literally bro everyone thought the music teacher was one but it never got proven

he would sit all the girls at the front of the class and boys at the back and then "drop his pen" one too many times in an hour

[thorny acorn]

our teacher is confirmed, but fcked up laws say age of consent is 14

[lucid shale]

where tf do u live thailand

[thorny acorn]

Serbia

[echo karma]

It's fairly simple too. For home computers at least. Most people's passwords are so dumb you actually question yourself

[lucid shale]

serbian film much

[past vortex]

most of europe is like that

[thorny acorn]

and the funny thing, intercourse between 2 males is 18

[past vortex]

doesnt mean everything goes

[thorny acorn]

we dont talk about that

[lucid shale]

bro i remember this one guys password to get onto his pc was literally just tap spacebar once

[thorny acorn]

we DONT talk about that, why did u remind me

I KNOW THE PRODUCER

[lucid shale]

its crazy the fact that apple allows your passcode to get onto the PC literally be just a spacebar

[echo karma]

Also you can manipulate the discord API and do some funny things. I won't cuz maybe a bot will ban you

[lucid shale]

that film is highly illegal here lol

[worthy charm]

Safety🔒

[lucid shale]

you can pull a discord IP using just a discord user ID

[echo karma]

No text to speech is goated btw

[lucid shale]

TTS is hilarious

[past vortex]

myth

[lucid shale]

nope

[past vortex]

requires additional stupidity from the user

[lucid shale]

you totally wont lose your discord account using that 👀

since it has code to view your discord token

set file security

etc etc

[thorny acorn]

and it also got removed

[wind shore]

Sup guys

[lucid shale]

yeah

[past vortex]

yea requires you to have used a bot that got hacked

[visual niche]

Send it via DMs

[wind shore]

Alcoholism and gambling is funny

[echo karma]

Never accept friend requests

Someone gets your token and bye bye.

[past vortex]

lol

[thorny acorn]

a guy just got arrested for driving a tractor with 3‰ towards a casino

[wind shore]

Which casino?

[thorny acorn]

idk some random one, mozzartbet prob

[wind shore]

I turned 21 yesterday and went to one myself

[thorny acorn]

i dont do gambling

[wind shore]

I bet 20$ and walked out with 60

[echo karma]

Deez nuts casino?

[wind shore]

On a 40¢ slot

[visual niche]

For discord, usually people get tricked into accepting a bot or app, and then they become one with the botnet themselves

[echo karma]

We have casino on boats down here. So you have go live with that descion or jump

[lucid shale]

one of us... one of us.... one of us... ONE OF US

[past vortex]

and thats the only way. it really requires user stupidity

[visual niche]

Hate to see it

[lucid shale]

again human error is the downfall for even the best cyber security

[wind shore]

Bet all red guys trust me you won't lose all your money

[lucid shale]

nah all on green fr

[wind shore]

Trust the process

[past vortex]

yea and discord has features that make it easier

[lucid shale]

never backdown never what?

[echo karma]

And also anyone from this sever can send me a friend's request and sometimes those request are basically like uh not a friend request just a bot wanting my info. They can also force you into servers etc.

[past vortex]

still not generally true

[visual niche]

But they promised free 🥵 leakz & free robux

[past vortex]

not if you can read

[wind shore]

I can't load hell let loose at all for this new update

[lucid shale]

you could have so many measures in place and all it takes is one dumb admin to believe the wrong email and thats it game over

[wind shore]

Just keeps kicking me off the main screen saying no connection

[visual niche]

Yeah its an issue since the update with xbox unfortunately.

[past vortex]

for that server

[echo karma]

Alot of ppl can't read. And you'd be suprised at how harmless a random friend request seems. Kinda like spam but somehow worse

[past vortex]

only that it doesnt say friend request

[lucid shale]

im talking in general bro most servers have some form of connection and all it takes is one bug to be manipulated and the entire network is screwed

[past vortex]

naw

[visual niche]

I inconvenience myself by having crazy randomly generated passwords and 20 factor authentication

[lucid shale]

maxim say if i wanted to test how good the #honeypot bot is how would i go about that?

[echo karma]

Probably alot of ppl don't even know there discord token ID. Nor any of the info in there.

[lucid shale]

like if i was gonna do it who would i need permission from?

[visual niche]

If it just kicks you, copy a server invite link to your clipboard before hand

[wind shore]

What is the flamethrower buff do also btw? It just looks the exact same

[lucid shale]

i wouldnt do it that way lmao

[visual niche]

If it bans you, then thats a little more complicated, so I wouldnt mess with it in general

[lucid shale]

im talking a mass spam in the honeypot channel lol i wouldnt mess with general

[visual niche]

It has 46 confirmed kills though

[echo karma]

Also if you ever get banned. Create a VPN. Then walahhh. You're new again

[kind void]

when do the new vehicles come?

[lucid shale]

auto proxy rotation for the win babyyy

[arctic rampart]

The destroying of some buildables, which is completely irrelevant.
Increased range, much needed, but not enough still.
And then someone said the fuel amount go reduced, but no idea if that's fact checked

[past vortex]

soon

[arctic rampart]

Within 2025

[past vortex]

maybe

[visual niche]

Honesly Im getting a flamethrower tank vibe

[lucid shale]

since what start date?

[arctic rampart]

Another thing to never spawn? Great.

[echo karma]

Trust me, I got banned alot in that Vietnam server game with that chance dude. I trolled him to much I think

[visual niche]

Feb 12th, but those are the ones that got through filters

[lucid shale]

thats not bad

[visual niche]

Gotta feed the pot

[wind shore]

World at war blood and iron and relentless tank

[lucid shale]

say if i was to do it with a webhook spam who would i need to speak to to set the webhook for me

[wind shore]

The churchhill and panther are the best tanks to me in the entire game. I physically just can't drive anything else

[visual niche]

Idk ask Greg or something

[lucid shale]

whos greg lol

[echo karma]

Most bots need perms to do anything really. Real question is how easy it would be to get perms.

[lucid shale]

like im just genuinely curious how good the bot could perform under pressure

[visual niche]

No love for the jumbo? 😔

[lucid shale]

webhooks arent technically bots

[echo karma]

Dunno if yall remember but steam was breached when poe2 launched. That was bad. Off of a simple thing really

[lucid shale]

there somewhere in between users and bots

[visual niche]

No pentesting please lol

[wind shore]

I can't stand American tanks. The transmission sucks and their hard to turn

[lucid shale]

its not pentesting more stress testing

[visual niche]

Its okay, but thank you for offering

[wind shore]

Puma is prob my third favorite. It can take out heavies for no reason bruh

[lucid shale]

pentesting would require me to actually hack the bot itself

[visual niche]

Thats fair

[echo karma]

If super heavy like Pershing come in new 1945 obviously Berlin map. Plz no super heavy tank meta bro. Limit to 1

[lucid shale]

id merely test its limitations as to how well it would handle a sudden influx of messages in the honeypot channel

[wind shore]

Do I have an addiction to this game? Is 1900 hours to much

[past vortex]

dont give up before you become a vet

[wind shore]

My environment (or my directors environment) was breached. Many different logins on multiple 365 accounts. After I pointed it out, and the fact that 2FA & GeoFencing was turned off, they just covered it up and layed me under siege

I'm already lvl 170+ and have every gun unlocked. I want more guns pwease 🥺

[echo karma]

I got a luchs stuck in a ditch trench earlier and wondered how tf I even got stuck. I just sat there and fired till someone came and satchel me. The worst driving physics I have seen in a game

[lucid shale]

nahhhh thats diabolical

[wind shore]

Luchs is by far the worst tank in the entire game. Should honestly just be removed and replaced with another tank

[wind shore]

Heinous dude

[lucid shale]

heinously diabolical

[wind shore]

I'd literally take one of them crap Italian L/6 tanks than that luchs garbage

[echo karma]

It's basically an SPG without the spg.

[wind shore]

Ah yes I'm gonna have a 3 man crew in a 20mm tank that gets stuck in trenches and can't even destroy anything above light tier

[wind shore]

Covered it up by saying it was a pen test and the environment is set up like a $30k homelab. Tf they mean

[lucid shale]

bruh if it was a pentest there would be documents signed outlining the details of the pentest what systems cant be touched etc

[wind shore]

I know. And I thought I did something good 😭 now I'm being ran off

[echo karma]

Even recons getting stuck in stupid places is so dumb bro. I just can't understand the driving physics. I have like 30" swampers bro

[wind shore]

Thanks 🙏🏻 jeebus

[lucid shale]

screw that tell them youll take them to court and they would have to prove it was a pentest then lol

[wind shore]

I'm calling a lawyer this week

[lucid shale]

u boutta get a check my boy

[wind shore]

More HLL skins for me

The easiest heavy tank to solo is the churchhill. I've done it before despite how much people love saying solos can't tank. And taken out two tigers on El Alamein.

[lucid shale]

nah bro im talking new house new PC new car and hll skins

[visual niche]

I always want to use the smoke shells in the US tanks.. but never do

[wind shore]

Matter in fact two weeks ago I had 350 kills in a panther alone on foy. It's so easy to solo tank on console

[lucid shale]

i want mustard gas shells for arty

[thorny acorn]

use them

[wind shore]

Although it depends what maps

[thorny acorn]

can you kill infantry with smoke shell from a tank

[lucid shale]

no

[thorny acorn]

like if it directly impacts them

[echo karma]

I like shooting ppl in the face with smoke shells. Ultimate troll

[lucid shale]

also depends on enemy team

[wind shore]

Foy and saint maria du mont are so easy to get 300+ kills solo tanking. While maps like caraten and Omaha nah

[visual niche]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

[echo karma]

Also the 75 is the worst tank ever

[visual niche]

If true

[lucid shale]

i tried already u cant

[thorny acorn]

i hope direct impact would kill

damn it

[wind shore]

It does I'm pretty sure

Direct impact I swear

[visual niche]

But flare guns can kill..

[echo karma]

Yes and friendlies too

[lucid shale]

theres literal video

[thorny acorn]

well its going to requests

[wind shore]

There's been lots of removals on this game though

I remember the exploit to where you could remove enemy or friendly nodes in under 10 seconds by mashing X and the map select button together

[visual niche]

Ive seen people use the smoke shells as cover to escape and repair.. but thats rare I think

[echo karma]

It's like a weak ap. Vs infy. It will kill. But most importantly it'll spread smoke and they'll be like wtf. Dead

[wind shore]

I started playing this when Stalingrad first released on Xbox

[echo karma]

75 is so bad tho. Literally worst tank in the game.

[visual niche]

Oof

[wind shore]

American tanks just suck even the IS is better

[past vortex]

smoke shell kills are a rare achievement, it should be an acutual achievement :}

[echo karma]

Also why no side pen on panther from American bazooka at say 20m? Maybe he'll 50m?

[wind shore]

I have almost every single achievement in the game including all the flamethrower ones

[visual niche]

I think jeeps probably get spawned more than that thing 😅

[wind shore]

I just need half track spawn and jeep kills

[echo karma]

Side plate on panther is very thin.

[lucid shale]

im trynna find the video of it

[visual niche]

I wish there was more pro vs cons to each vehicle, but all equally viable as options depending on the situation

[echo karma]

1 jeep 4 at is more deadly then the 75. With 2 ammo boxes. Bro that's a boom box

[past vortex]

there isa use case for the 75

not waiting for the cooldown

and if its gonna do anti inf it does work

[visual niche]

I was playing with @slate canopy in an armour unit on kursk. We were being harrassed by a jeep full of AT players haha

[echo karma]

Now I wish updated UI for tanking. More realism but not not much like s44. Tracks etc. More VFX for each vehicle etc mostly simple stuff. Aim torch at tracks to fix tracks etc. More realistic armour values. Change damage around. Panther wasn't a heavy tank technically. Also SPGs and specific Anti tank vehicles. Fixed guns etc

[echo karma]

Bro the Russian at rifle is nasty. And for some reason it's resupply by ammo box. Not ap ammo

[visual niche]

Definitely

[acoustic rapids]

All these changes maxim and the lewis mg still doesnt shoot straight.

[echo karma]

Largely if you look at the game. Tanking hasn't been changed in awhile. Almost like arty

[visual niche]

We were in the soviet tanks, so it was a clown car of german AT rocket bois rolling up every time

[gleaming bronze]

Buff fg42

[visual niche]

Im sure thatll be fixed as soon as our loadouts stop resetting dont worry

[thin lotus]

That means “never” btw

[acoustic rapids]

Just screaming into the nether this discord aye.

[brittle laurel]

FLAMETHROWER BUFF IS HERE

[gleaming bronze]

Next is fg42

[brittle laurel]

Great idea! They should hire you!

[gleaming bronze]

Thx

[thorny acorn]

full auto fg42 on recon

[visual niche]

Either way I wouldn't know. I'm sure its on some tracker somewhere

[thorny acorn]

and mountable bipod

[gleaming bronze]

I wonder if new veichles could be early war tanks or a new class like tank destroyers

[nova pivot]

Plus bipod

[thorny acorn]

i said it

[lucid tusk]

I have a feeling it'll be a combination of tank destroyers and flamethrower tanks

[nova pivot]

Yes , i just saw it

[gleaming bronze]

Flamethrower tanks were too rare to be added

[nova pivot]

Flampanzer 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[thin lotus]

“Get me closer, I want to use my flamethrower”

-No tankers, ever

[thorny acorn]

but flamethrower buffs indicate they want them to be useful, so they can be put on tanks

[gleaming bronze]

Sounds cool but unlikely since HLL focuses on more mass produced weaponry

[nova pivot]

L33 flametrowher

[lucid tusk]

We'll probably see the Stug III, M18 hellcat/M10 Wolverine, crocodile churchill (i hope not imagine the physics on the fuel trailer)

[thin lotus]

Completely at odds with how hll gameplay goes

[gleaming bronze]

Tiger 2, is2, and Pershing sound scary

[nova pivot]

Churchill gun carrier would be Hilarious

[lucid tusk]

Personally I wanna see some open top TDs like the Marder

[nova pivot]

Big box that makes things go boom

[radiant lantern]

can you play warfare on pc??? My console friend can play it, but on my pc it only says "enlist" (i play on epic games, i got it for free)

[gleaming bronze]

Stugs,. M10s, and Su 100s

[lucid tusk]

Wasn't the churchill gun carrier only ever a prototype?

[nova pivot]

I dont know, looks like it

[visual niche]

Yeah Enlist is just the server browser, so you can search by gamemode

[lucid tusk]

Screw it, give us the Skink, just go full unhinged

[nova pivot]

Using anti air tank against infantry is peak ww2 game Gameplay

[visual niche]

But its not crossplay from PC to console

[echo karma]

Stug so I can level an objective from HQ spawn

[gleaming bronze]

Im surprised we don't have morter class, maybe they could just add morters for engineers

[radiant lantern]

oh ok thank you.

[echo karma]

And wait on my 30 sec reload

[radiant lantern]

what about xbox to epic games to steam??

[gleaming bronze]

Artillery tanks?

[echo karma]

Stug. Only Stug. Or 8.8.

[past veldt]

No

[gleaming bronze]

Yes tank destroyers must be added. No doubt

[echo karma]

The ole anti everything gun. 88 mil

[gleaming bronze]

They have their pros and cons so they can be balanced

[visual niche]

Xbox and Playstation can play together for console, and thats it. The rest is PC

[radiant lantern]

what?? so if im on epic games i cant play with my friend on xbox gamepass (pc)

[echo karma]

Make 88 build able so I can blow up aircraft

[visual niche]

Oh with gamepass PC, then yes

[gleaming bronze]

Pro = Better Gun, Con = No turret

[echo karma]

You can't balance the 88 bro. It is OP by definition. Laughs in tiger 1

[radiant lantern]

oh ok thanks. Can you play warfare with friends? Or does it just take you into a random game alone??

[ashen basin]

omg i cant stand this new admin cam

[gleaming bronze]

Con = M10, No roof

[echo karma]

Balance the 88. The Pershing couldn't even do that

[past veldt]

Brother, if your friend has an option to just click warfare and join a game, he's not on PC

[radiant lantern]

oh ok

[visual niche]

You have to coordinate joining the same server, team, unit with a friend on PC, as theres no party system. On console, they have a party system with an additional option to just enter matchmaking

In addition to the Enlist server browser with their community servers (that are separate from PC servers as well)

[gleaming bronze]

I wish for berlin

It's likely to be added, so I'm excited

I want to defend the reichstag

[radiant lantern]

alr thank you

[visual niche]

Its a bit confusing lol

[radiant lantern]

btw is medic bad?? I feel like everyone just respawns before i can revive them

[thin lotus]

Yes, bad

[gleaming bronze]

I think the reason berlin was delayed is because of logistics

[finite berry]

There is no real point in waiting for revive because there is no ticket system

[radiant lantern]

😔

[finite berry]

Your death is "meaningless", so to say

Medic isn't "bad", it's just pointless aside from roleplaying

[gleaming bronze]

Since the gemrans were basically surrounded with limited resources

[visual niche]

But potentially good by the end of the year

Hopefully

[finite berry]

Let's hope so

Who knows, more XP for pinging revivable team mates

[gleaming bronze]

The luftwaffe weren't even in the battle of berlin so it's hard to implement that unless they go the stalingrad route and neglect that

[echo karma]

It's obvious it's Berlin. Late war. Probably battle of cologne? Late war, new vehicles. Even tho panther technically in the game.

[finite berry]

The Luftwaffe barely even existed at that point anymore.

[gleaming bronze]

I actually think they will probably add Seelow Heights instead

[echo karma]

Battle of cologne would be total urban. Like actually no field nothing. All urban combat. Long streets.

[gleaming bronze]

We do need more urban maps

But HLL loves them their open fields so Seelow Heighs is likely

[wind shore]

I have seen the defensive of roof first time, on Tobruk

[visual niche]

Just tell MrKedo which map you want next

[wind shore]

Admirality

[finite berry]

Urban maps are such a pain in the as s to make

[gleaming bronze]

I like to speculate

[wind shore]

It’s crazy, for real, and sand got in my eyes

[echo karma]

Would be multi layered. Huge church. And Pershing would be added with panther etc

[gleaming bronze]

I do like more close combat in buildings

[gleaming bronze]

Pershing will be too OP

[finite berry]

Has nothing to do with what I've said.

[past veldt]

"would be added"

[gleaming bronze]

I don't care

[past veldt]

Would it? I don't think they care too much about that sort of stuff

[echo karma]

No side armour is perfectly balance imo. It was a main flaw irl

[finite berry]

I figured

[gleaming bronze]

Good boy

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/owo-love-cat-meow-heart-gif-4559932780455511834

[gleaming bronze]

Might as well add the is2 and tiger 2

[echo karma]

And it offers actual knowledge vs driving head on etc

Or probably more likely we see something fictional af and they try there own thing. Which I think is likely.

[flat garden]

i wanna play so bad rn

[echo karma]

Bait so bad

[nova pivot]

Are you shaking?

[visual niche]

Would be funny if they put the Ratte in the prac range as a meme

[flat garden]

im feining for war

[gleaming bronze]

Copy war thunder and do April fools event

[thorny acorn]

medic bot said ratte is coming

[flat garden]

fr tho

[echo karma]

Practice range Easter eggs would be cool imo.

[thorny acorn]

i trust in medic bot

@noble plume we love you

[nova pivot]

Any tipe of Easter eggs

[flat garden]

man

[echo karma]

Rip wombat. She died for our sins!

[gleaming bronze]

HHL should adapt to more early war weaponry and maps

[visual niche]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1256016864509825055/1256117347148759080/IMG_5449.png?ex=67eec3b1&is=67ed7231&hm=f957bc01dab6c2fd6dc9ae44d05f70c61df95598497d390f580a1f8ee1313c63&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1000&height=563

Surely the model still exists somewhere right

[echo karma]

That side skirting is a joke lol

[radiant lantern]

someone should make an esports team for hell let loose with 50 people

[thorny acorn]

there is a model in the game

[flat garden]

WE BACK

[gleaming bronze]

That's real, my grandpapa mentioned he saw it

[flat garden]

ITS BACK

YUHHHHH

[visual niche]

We in??

[echo karma]

Gets stuck in the mud

[flat garden]

WE INNN

[thorny acorn]

nah

[gleaming bronze]

Don't you see those tracks. More like gets stuck in bridge

[nova pivot]

Gets trowed into remagen river

[thorny acorn]

even chuck norris is feared of the ratte

[echo karma]

Those tracks are probably the downfall of the tiger ngl. Worst pos I've ever seen

[gleaming bronze]

I heard the ratte was destroyed by Rambo

Ngl indiana jones dial of destiny is cool with its ww2 scenes

Wish we had more ww2 movies that aren't related to the holocaust, just war and action scenes

[past vortex]

while dual wielding HMGs

[echo karma]

The game on gamepass was pretty good too. Hell of a story

[gleaming bronze]

Stalingrad 1993 is a good example

[pine breach]

when?!

I want to play bumpercars with oversized tanks.

[wind shore]

I use it sometimes, and always get warned by the tank commander don’t do it ( but it’s my plan to smoke the enemy 😅 )

[wind shore]

Which is this one fmw, Is it Italian 🇮🇹 one?

[nova pivot]

Yea

Smol silly beautiful cute baby tank

But spits fireee

[maiden gale]

Danggg no medic rework?

[wind shore]

Yes, they really useful now, in buildings and everywhere

[gleaming bronze]

We need panzer 3 and 4 early variants

Basically early war tanks and early war maps

[lucid tusk]

Each map should have different armor, I'll die on this hill

[echo karma]

S44 already does that. And weapons too. And factions

[slate canopy]

I just saw the ping now, but I still have the screenshot of the guy on our tank hitting us with a shovel 😆

[thorny acorn]

thats a true dedication

my respects for that man

[slate canopy]

It was the last... 10-20 seconds, as we were about to take final point.

With our tracks disabled too

[echo karma]

Not me standing on the barrel. Reeeee. Can't see nothing heheh

[thorny acorn]

ill take inspiration from that legend, gonna try in next match

[echo karma]

Are servers down? I can't boot.

Says error 10k times

[slender canyon]

Not a fan of the tubrok map tbh

[vernal crown]

guys i found a bug, ANZACs are missing in tobruk

[wind shore]

How can i get in touch with T17? In reference of a National Leauge in HLL for console and PC

Is it a way here or do i need to get the emails going

[slate canopy]

A national league in HLL? There is a competative scene that is set up NOT by Team17.

[mellow knoll]

Me neither. Feels too clean and unfortunately just doesn't do it for me.

[past vortex]

just start one if you want. and if you got one or more YTers with good metrics t17 might even care about those :}

[wind shore]

T17 sounds like a coporate company without any marketing budget! But guess thats the way! I know they dont support much other competitive.. 🙂

So, i guess thanks!

[lucid tusk]

True, but HLL has something that not even S44 has

[finite berry]

Players? 😄

[visual niche]

Try this perhaps for an email? https://www.team17.com/contact

I'm sure you can send a DM to Ben B, the HLL Community Manager.

[wind shore]

I haven't even played Tobruk yet 😭 I expect to do just as well on it as I do the other maps (not good)

Let me go launch it up real quick and see how bad I can do

[storm stratus]

Its on the road map. Not in the update.

[thin lotus]

This kills the S44 Enthusiast

[maiden gale]

Ah okay

[gleaming bronze]

For maps before 1944, they should change the stg with the mkb 42

Makes it more realistic

[hollow musk]

Sounds like too much work, I want rations instead.

[gleaming bronze]

How is it too much work. All they really need to do is make a model of the mkb42 and rename it

Fun fact there were 8000 mkb42 produced, while the fg42 was 7000

[finite berry]

Just look at the usual development speed and... yeah 😅

[visual niche]

Could it even be added to the DAK aresenal as well?

[finite berry]

big doubt

[gleaming bronze]

HLL has so much potential to be greater, they just need to hire more employees

We need early war weaponry and maps

[hollow musk]

Mate, do you really think the boys up in RnD can even do that in a timespan that's respectable? Bloody hell, I think we have a better chance of Gaijin buying this game than that ever happening.

[visual niche]

Yeah I like being authentic to the battle, but I also like having options for weapons instead of just kar98k. Seems like a good https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1098158460463480842

[gleaming bronze]

We already do, every class has a different option other than kar98

[lone junco]

Does anyone know if they changed the medic or reworked it? I haven’t played the update yet.

[visual niche]

Saying for the DAK german sub faction that exists only on the two desert maps

[gleaming bronze]

Maybe some Italian weapons

[finite berry]

Should also add the Italians, then

Adding Italian weapons, but no Italians feels dirty

[hollow musk]

I would fancy a Carcano.

[finite berry]

What was the other map again?

[visual niche]

Alamein

[hollow musk]

Just add an Italian cosmetics DLC and call it a day.

[finite berry]

Ah, yes, thanks.

[gleaming bronze]

Italians vs british map

[finite berry]

Meh

Just make it a layer for Tobruk and call it a day

[wind shore]

Carcano , old Italian rifle

[hollow musk]

I think the Devs should add maps and new factions and characters but make everything gray or use place holders, and call it the "Community Test Environment".

[visual niche]

Go on..

[hollow musk]

Nah, just add the M1870/87 Vetterli-Vitali variant.

[wind shore]

I know Carcano and Mauser were in RDR

[gleaming bronze]

Do you think is2, tiger 2, Pershing will be a good idea?

1000 fuel

[hollow musk]

Oh and make it so the community can give comments and feedback about the maps and features that are in the CTE, so when update# rolls out, the new content won't be crappy to get, eh?

[wind shore]

IS at all , it’s 1944 tank, in game it’s 1942-1943 maps

[covert elbow]

Not at all

[visual niche]

Wrong year?

[wind shore]

Tiger 2 , we have only 1 1945 map , Remagen, in Normandy it was barely used

[visual niche]

Or just not present at the time?

[wind shore]

You meant guns right , or tanks also

[gleaming bronze]

The time line in game is weird

[visual niche]

I dont even know anymore lol

[covert elbow]

The STG should be 44 exclusive. It doesn’t make sense to in Russia or Africa

[wind shore]

Tanks could be used for North Africa and Eastern front , both

[finite berry]

Given how the current tank system works, no. Not without major changes first.

[covert elbow]

Waaaaay to wrong

[visual niche]

I dont think its in Africa but it is in the eastern front maps

[wind shore]

Guns as I know it’s unique for African campaign

[covert elbow]

The MG42 shouldn’t even be in Africa

[gleaming bronze]

Panther shouldn't be in stalingrad

[gaunt current]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but i'm not able to add Tobruk to our map rotaion on qonzer. Ive updated it but not seeing it as an option to add it on crcon

[wind shore]

I’ve seen Sd Kfz 222 on both fronts , photos, and also panzer 3

[finite berry]

Well, yesn't. The StG 44 got first time distributed to troops and used during September 1943 by the 93. Infanterie-Division on the Eastern Front.

[gleaming bronze]

Stg too

[finite berry]

It was still called MP 43 back then.

[gleaming bronze]

They should replace it with mkb42

[covert elbow]

So none of the maps in game

[wind shore]

Sd Kfz 222 it’s like light tank, 20 mm , but the turret is more better

[finite berry]

Only in France 1944. Kursk and Stalingrad are both too early.

[visual niche]

@cyan saddle might be able to help. There is also a CRCON discord which I can try to find

[covert elbow]

Just remove it entirely from the Soviet front and make it exclusive to the U.S. the Germans don’t need another advantage over the Soviets

[oak current]

Summoning the Abu? At this time? You Madman!

[wind shore]

IS also isn’t accurate to be honest

Panthers were in Kursk , Kharkov maps

Except Stalingrad

From Stalingrad it could be removed , Panther

[cyan saddle]

In CRCON, go to Settings > General > CRCON Actions, and click FLUSH CACHE

[gleaming bronze]

We need more early war tanks to fill in the gaps

[covert elbow]

The game needs a loadout/ class refresh and I’d much rather the game have a bigger emphasis on standard issue rifles. If you have the MKB42 on the Soviet front theres not much to balance it against nore does it make sense

[wind shore]

KV-1 , StuGs for Eastern front, Tigers

[finite berry]

Again, absolutely pointless without major changes to the armour system first

[wind shore]

IS , it’s 1944 production

[finite berry]

Yes, this. Give the K98k some love 🥹

[gaunt current]

Thank you that worked

[covert elbow]

The holy truth. Before anything can be added there needs to be major gameplay changes and reworks

[hollow musk]

Just add armored cars and call it a day.

[covert elbow]

And the mosin 91/30 it needs love

[finite berry]

Yes

[covert elbow]

Idk why the 91 even exists in game

[finite berry]

Bolt-action rifles, my beloved

[wind shore]

Cause it was in use

[visual niche]

Yeah not smart on my part

[finite berry]

The virgin StG noob vs the gigachad K98k slayer

[covert elbow]

Who needs automatics when you can just kill the enemy

[hollow musk]

Honestly, I would do anything for the Lebel 1886 to somehow end up in the game.

[finite berry]

Exactly. Like, HLL is a game where you can easily justify having a majority of bolt-action rifles because one bullet kills you anyway (+/-).

[past vortex]

yea anything more than shovel is overkill

[covert elbow]

French DLC when

[hollow musk]

More importantly, when Bayonet DLC?

[covert elbow]

Okay for real though

That needs to be in the game

[finite berry]

That's why the Invasion of Poland was such a good idea for the game. Would've been something genuinely new where you can't justify having StGs and Panzerschrecks.

[covert elbow]

This game could have been so much more if they just dialed in the gameplay

We absolutely could have been like S:44 and could afford to visit new fronts and factions

[wind shore]

Cause some stuff like Nagants, same as 1891 Mosin rifle, it’s WW1 stuff , but lots of those stuff kept , and was used, like Jericho cap it’s from 1917 also

[real parrot]

This game would be so good if it were developed by a competent team

[covert elbow]

You know they would have still had those on launch

[hollow musk]

DICE LA 2014.

[wind shore]

I use mostly bolt rifles in HLL

[finite berry]

Most modern infantry weapon probably would've been a B.A.R. or an MP 40, with the majority of the troops being equipped with K98ks (the Polish used a shortened version of the K98).

[finite berry]

Excuse me, what do you mean?

[finite berry]

Do you mean T17 or BM now? 😅

[hollow musk]

Indeed, I even converted the M1 carbine to a bolt action! Cheers for the Chinese!

[real parrot]

Neither, obv

[covert elbow]

The STG and panzershrek

They wouldn’t have updated the German arsenal at all

[finite berry]

Yes, but your statement means that you call the developing team incompetent; hence my question whether you only call the current team (T17) incompetent or also the previous team (BM).

[covert elbow]

They should have just pumped the poles with a bunch of weird stuff to make them “balanced”

[real parrot]

Both

[finite berry]

Eh.... Not quite sure, actually. Panzerschrecks in 1939 would have been such obvious nonsense that I'm not quite sure whether they would've done it.

[covert elbow]

It took a year of complaints for a unique Africa subfaction

[covert elbow]

And? Both the Soviet’s and year one of Africa had this stuff

[finite berry]

Because if they don't alter weapon loadouts at all, every map will just play the same, no matter the year and place.

[real parrot]

Panzergewher when

[finite berry]

Yes, but those are at least in 1942, so the nonsense isn't as striking 😅

[hollow musk]

Do you mean Tankgewehr?

Clearly we need that.

[thorny acorn]

hear me out, soviets vs japan
but in africa

[covert elbow]

They wouldn’t care haha

[finite berry]

I kinda don't see the point. If you wanted to make it realistic, it would be useless against tanks. If you wanted to make it fun, it would be pretty much on Battlefield level.

[covert elbow]

He means Panzerbuche

[real parrot]

I meant panzerbusche or something like that

[finite berry]

Panzerbüchse

[visual niche]

On a submarine

[finite berry]

Umlaut, my friends ;)

[oak current]

in space

[past vortex]

with fog

[gleaming bronze]

For which maps?

[finite berry]

Space Battleship Yamato, obviously

[oak current]

actually Enlisted did Space

[real parrot]

AT rifle in 1939 its not useless against T-40

[finite berry]

Tobruk

[real parrot]

Pacific

[oak current]

*Space Pacific

[real parrot]

Zombie map

[visual niche]

Isnt that in world of warships already

[oak current]

Spacific!

[finite berry]

Even if you pen the armour, you must hit a crew member or a vital component because it has no explosive filler. It just fires very large bullets.

[oak current]

SPACIFIC!

[hollow musk]

That's too boring, just let us use reversed or K bullets instead.

[finite berry]

Don't know, totally wouldn't surprise me. Least insane Wargaming moment

[real parrot]

You're taking it to far, make it do 10% damage per bullet

[finite berry]

Which brings me back to the Battlefield-level of realism.

[wind shore]

Autoblinda - exclusively North Africa could be, for recon tank to replace puma , Luchs could be replaced by Sd. Kfz 222 ( it’s same 20 mm light vehicle/tank ) , Pz 3 could be added for North Africa and Eastern front, and guns - unique for the African maps : some new , idk, Italian 🇮🇹 rifles, etc

[gleaming bronze]

Lol tiger in tobruk

[hollow musk]

But does it use 67% more bullet, per bullet?

[wind shore]

222 could be made for both fronts

[real parrot]

When did you think Hll was realistic?

[covert elbow]

Real

Wish it was though. Be a million times better

[real parrot]

Actually its 90% moar bullet per bullet

[hollow musk]

Holy hell!

[finite berry]

Never. But there is still space between full-out realism and literal Battlefield level "realism".

[wind shore]

Also those stuff from African maps could be moved to Italian maps , for example

[real parrot]

We already got PTRS doing 10% damage don't know what you're yaping 'bout

[wind shore]

Autoblindas, Carcano rifles , Breda for example for Machine gunner ( but it’s too worse than MG42 or 34 )

[gleaming bronze]

I hadn't tried to new map yet. Is the panther in it?

[real parrot]

Breda is like Bren but pretier

[finite berry]

I have the Squad 44 perspective because I view everything from that perspective; so, when I try to come up with ideas for HLL, I'm attempting to find something that isn't as realistic as S44, but definitely more realistic than Battlefield.

You don't have to agree with me; just an explanation how my thinking process works.

[wind shore]

No

[gleaming bronze]

Is there a substitute?

[wind shore]

Idk , it was slower fire rate then Bren as I know

[finite berry]

Because in my eyes, HLL definitely should try to stay clearly above games like Battlefield in regards to loadouts and weapon damage.

[wind shore]

Carcano is pretty nice rifle

[hollow musk]

We have a secret A7V that we can summon by doing rituals across the map.

[real parrot]

Ok, but we already have AT rifles and our damage model is about 4 life pools, how is adding a panzersbuche to a 1939 taking things to a battlefield level

[finite berry]

What a shame we can't post images here, I have the perfect meme for that, haha

[real parrot]

Yes pls

[hollow musk]

Please fax me that meme of yours!

[visual niche]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/829386901696806952

[finite berry]

Then the AT rifle damage output is already on Battlefield level 😄

[real parrot]

Everything is then, as the damage model its the same for every weapon

[finite berry]

Yeah, unfortunately 🙁

[real parrot]

At least you don't kill a tank by shooting it in the tracks, not anymore

[covert elbow]

You still should be able to

Only being able to kill a tank from behind is stioid

[real parrot]

Na ur tripping

[finite berry]

Shouldn't kill a tank, but should result in a mobility kill

[real parrot]

I call cap

[hollow musk]

Clearly the tanks have their vital organs on their tracks.

[real parrot]

Just like me fr

[finite berry]

Hitting a tank into the ⚽ ⚽ by shooting the tracks

[real parrot]

A same we don't have someone to explain us how the Tiger was the best tank of the war and shouldn't be penned by anything in this game

I'm curious I never saw a discussion like that yet

[covert elbow]

Real. Or how the T34 should bounce every shot

[covert elbow]

We had these discussions when we cared about history

[real parrot]

But it literally does 😭

Nerf T-34 Stalinium

[finite berry]

I despise such people from the bottom of my heart 😅

[real parrot]

Na skill issue

I tell them that the bob semple would mop the floor with the Tiger

[visual niche]

Multi-turreted tanks

[covert elbow]

No

[real parrot]

Hear me out, multi tanked turrets

[covert elbow]

There we go

[real parrot]

Like, 2 hulls in one turret, twice the HP

[hollow musk]

Give me T-35.

Or lend lease Grants

[visual niche]

M1941 Johnson at least..? 🥺 👉 👈

[real parrot]

No, no, Kv-6 better

Or Kv-222

[hollow musk]

Such an odd looking thing.

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-how-many-times-do-we-need-to-teach-you-old-man-slow-thick-gif-12272188

[wind shore]

#1338242453551054979 message here was the correct list for early equipment which fits on North African maps except soviet tanks and Pz.38t , and T-26 multi turret

I meant for both fronts, if take those German tanks

It’s early 1941, so the current things fit, so you can see multi turret tank , double turret - T-26 , and Sd Kfz 222 from it, Panzer 3 Ausf H, and Panzer 4 Ausf. D modification

[visual niche]

I'm impressed 👏

[wind shore]

If take 222, 3 Ausf H, and Pz. 4 Ausf D it was in both fronts

Pz. 38 t light Czech it’s wasn’t in Africa, for sure, no soviet tanks from this list in Africa it wasn’t

Unique weapons in African maps could be used for 2 campaigns , African and Italian fronts for example

Stuff, if it’s going to be added , it fits on both

• current ones

[real parrot]

#hll-memes message
KV-222 vs Tiger 4, I won't be satisfied with less

[wind shore]

Carcano has interesting sight , light triangle , it’s North African weapon exlusive

And I think it would feels like No.4

[wind shore]

Might be photoshop)

[visual niche]

You're trying to sneak into the game credits aren't you 😏

[real parrot]

Impossible, its certified wonderwaflle

[wind shore]

And also Italian Beretta, it’s North African maps

[wind shore]

No) just saying what I’ve found about the tanks, it’s easier then 1 tank could be used everywhere

[real parrot]

Lancia 3ero when

[visual niche]

After the V1 rockets

[wind shore]

Lancaster was removed 😦

[real parrot]

unplayable

Where do I get my 12.000lb of tea now

[gray relic]

Does anyone know if the hit marker sound was removed?

[real parrot]

It wasn't

[visual niche]

If it is, its not supposed to be

[real parrot]

At least the headshot sound and the tank impact its still there

[wind shore]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1335016531624591381 here) also I’ve created this one before) I suggested Sd Kfz 222 , cause it was used everywhere , in logic that for example the idea was , 1 tank for 5 maps, 3 soviet and 2 African

[real parrot]

Same cannon as Luchs

[wind shore]

Yes, it’s more faster turret

[real parrot]

Could be cool, but T17 needs to tweak the HE AOE

Its to small

You'll have more luck hitting infantry with the MG

[gleaming bronze]

Peadot uniform is the best

[wind shore]

What’s AOE

[visual niche]

Area of effect or age of empires

[real parrot]

Don't know how to say it, the range of the explosion

[visual niche]

Probably the first one in this case

[real parrot]

Still age of empires is good

[visual niche]

No doubt

[wind shore]

Ok, understood

Luchs, IS-1 in game it’s 1944 production

STG 44 , 1944 production

KV-2 tank has 150 or 152 MM I can’t remember , KV-1 , 76 mm

MKb. 42 it’s Pre version of STG

MP38 somebody said it wasn’t used in North Africa maps

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-vs-germany-animated-soviet-union-ussr-russia-gif-5125669534956042111

https://tenor.com/view/mp40-bfv-bfv-reloads-gif-20380654

[slate canopy]

Is that Girls Und Panzer?

[finite berry]

No

[wind shore]

I don’t know, it’s anime ? I haven’t watched it) just to post it there to show KV-2 150 mm

[finite berry]

GuP looks different

[slate canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/rosehip-girls-und-panzer-gif-22223068

It's sooo good lookin

[wind shore]

Crusader