mess-hall

[wind shore]

i can't upload them, error

Wtffff

doesn't work(

discord is lagging last times, i can't send images in DM, it doesn't work at all, now - in thread - error

it's loading and stack

who broke DS(

which size is max

didnt know this server was also a discord technical support server

yo

[slate canopy]

We want HLL to be accessible to everyone 🙂 Now the tech support is not experts... But we try.

[shy walrus]

Yo

[wind shore]

I can’t upload anything 😦

It says error

it's less than 25 mb

[covert elbow]

Who else wants to make a WW2 game with me

[worthy charm]

Not me, whats your E-Mail though?

[covert elbow]

[e-mail]

[worthy charm]

-# runs away laughing

If I do anything I do hack you, the objective has to be done!

To my luck there isnt a time limit

[covert elbow]

The w

[wind shore]

is the american MG (forgot its name) the worst?

been forcing myself to play MG and somehow i cant stand the american one

m1 seems superior

[covert elbow]

No

Worst MG is the Lewis because of its magazine size

[wind shore]

Doesn't Britain just have it bad in game 😭😭

[wind shore]

fair i forgot, i use the other one when playing brits

[covert elbow]

The M1919A6 is 2nd best because it has a lower fire rate then the MG42

[wind shore]

the hybrid thing

[covert elbow]

Mainly because of HLL’s terrible gunplay

[wind shore]

maybe its a skill issue i dont have a feel for it but i think the russian on is better

[covert elbow]

The Brit’s have a very nice arsenal. Just the Germans have more semi-automatics and automatics because their balanced against the US and not the brits

[covert elbow]

It’s probably a feel thing

Cause the only things that matter in this game is ROF and ammo count

[wind shore]

So you're saying that Britain didn't have it bad in RL? 😭

[wind shore]

What's ROF

[covert elbow]

Rate of Fire

How fast the gun shoots

[covert elbow]

Not at all. In fact the British had a great arsenal for the time

Bren was portable with a quick reload system and incredibly stable

The Mk 4 had a much larger magazine size to other bolt actions and could be fired very quickly due to its design

The sten was quite honestly revolutionary in terms of reliability and ease of manufacture

[wind shore]

Nice

so skill issue?

[arctic rock]

ELLO

[slate canopy]

In here? Only mods and special people get access here. In #1271718922734796865 ? I dunno

[midnight nacelle]

I believe Kedo is having internet related issues.

[slate canopy]

Maybe.

🤷 back to my workout

[pine breach]

my mom said i was special.. why can't i post pictures here? I have cat pictures

[slate canopy]

Share your cat's pics in #off-topic-mess-hall

[pine breach]

No 😠

I want to post them hereeeee

They're on-topic

[wind shore]

Thanks! Im trying rn

[slate canopy]

They are not HLL related so technically no.

[pine breach]

What if I give them ww2 hats?

[covert elbow]

No like I said the game just has bad gunplay and all of the Brit’s strengths turn into weaknesses

[honest verge]

It s good bruh

[covert elbow]

The gunplay or the Brit’s

Cause the gunplay is the most simplistic and easy gunplay in the genre

Which is terrible since most guns can kill in one shot

[wind shore]

so what they said about the medic is they want to block people from respawning if the medic is near? and to give him more ammo?

instant kick from squad if you play medic

actual griefing

[covert elbow]

Yea idk what was going on with that

It was pretty obvious the dev was just pulling stuff out of a hat for that and the arty rework

[wind shore]

when do servers kick you for tk's? how many friendly medics can i headshot a game?

[thin lotus]

what?

[wind shore]

https://youtu.be/hsF3cv_m6GA?si=S-LnCA1Or8VyGLnt&t=2252

[covert elbow]

It’s around 5 in a row but if you get team killed at all your counter resets

It’s a pretty bad system

[wind shore]

sounds like i can kill endless medics if i get a TK from my own squad

we already adapting boys new meta

[covert elbow]

Yes

But also don’t

[wind shore]

dont pick medic if you dont want to get tk'd

😔

[thin lotus]

What a straight up dumb idea.

[wind shore]

actually hard to think of something worse

[thin lotus]

That's up there for one of the worst possible ways to trying to make a medic more relevant on the field

It actually might BE the worst lmao

[wind shore]

its like if the government developped HLL

[finite berry]

Just add tickets and medics are useful 🥲

[thin lotus]

Blocking people from respawning cause you've got some medic in promixity who thinks its his job to play hero.
Good grief, these devs are just out there

[wind shore]

completly lost

they should just listen to me and give him m1/g43 but u kno

i might prefere it if they just dont touch anything anymore

mechanics wise, thats my takeaway from the QA

just DONT touch anything

[covert elbow]

Add tickets and an actual damage system I beg you T17

[past vortex]

we will maybe have to play on servers that auto kick medics then :}

[wind shore]

instead of a medic, you have a dedicated anti-medic that teamkills 4 medics comes to you to get a TK for the reset and goes hunting friendly medics again

[past vortex]

@fluid pawn

:}

the medics aint a problem now, pls dont make them one

the scoreboard and other UI on the other hand

....

[covert elbow]

Medics always been a problem

This entire game had been a problem

[wind shore]

its like having mascots, they are like cute silly things walking around but they dont prevent you from playing

not really a problem

[past vortex]

its unproblematic to ignore them

[finite berry]

I really don't understand why they think about something so obviously stupid like medic-revive causing a partial (?) rearming (?!?!?!) instead of going for the obvious approach of adding tickets. Even bloody Battlefield uses them.

[covert elbow]

It’s because HLL is so entrenched in its flaws it can’t break out of them

[finite berry]

Is it tho?

[covert elbow]

So creating a system with tickets is out of the question

[past vortex]

there are actually something like tickets

[finite berry]

Would the introduction of tickets interfere that badly with the current game systems?

[covert elbow]

Manpower doesn’t count

[past vortex]

the drain on manpower is just so low that no one cares

[covert elbow]

That has never once actually effected a game of HLL

[past vortex]

would be very easy to adjust....

[covert elbow]

No. It’s just a new thing people would be scared about

[finite berry]

Who cares

[covert elbow]

But at that point just make tickets

Resources is already a bad system so just make tickets

[finite berry]

It's not like these devs are known for listening to community feedback and what the players want or don't want

[past vortex]

its actually more interesting if the resource is shared with other things

[finite berry]

As far as I know, you could run out of manpower and it would only result in fighting with one hand tied behind your back.

[covert elbow]

Yea

[finite berry]

In order for medics to be useful, there must be actual consequences in having too many casualties.

Aka losing the match.

And it's not that bad, like I said, even Battlefield does it.

Bf1 Operations, y'know

[covert elbow]

But it still just isn’t a good system and if they make it so each death takes more manpower then the commander won’t have resources for call-in’s

And new players, a majority of the playerbase, wouldnt care about stuff like it

They’ll just keep dying and respawning this draining the resources further and further

[past vortex]

the could then have a wait time when manpower is low

maybe even priority

[covert elbow]

So what we have currently?

Or adding on even more time?

[past vortex]

does anyone knw that ?

oh

[covert elbow]

Even if they removed the timers currently in game for spawning

It’s still a flawed system

[past vortex]

i meant for those who die without making points

[covert elbow]

Trying to hammer a nail into concrete isn’t going to help the foundation

[covert elbow]

Hm?

[past vortex]

if its the right type of nail and you drilled the right sized hole 1st why not

[finite berry]

Why do I have to think of Wallace hammering at 16x speed lmao

T17 on their way to mess up game mechanics even more

[covert elbow]

Problem is that they drilled a hole but it’s 1 foot instead of 1 inch

Ticket is just the better solution here. If they want to keep commander ability’s that use resources whatever but they need to take out the “spawning uses manpower” and just introduce tickets

[covert elbow]

Real

[finite berry]

I'd genuinely like to understand what T17's train of thoughts is behind ideas like the "medic revive results in rearm" when what you've just described is such an obvious, better solution

[covert elbow]

There isn’t any. The guy was pulling stuff from a hat in the interview

[finite berry]

I don't think they are too dumb or incompetent, so why do they come up with such nonsense that is so idiotic and at the same time elaborate

[covert elbow]

Like I said before all of these topics have been discussed to death in the community and there has been somewhat of a consensus on what to do to make these systems better

And if they actually did read or listen to this discord or Reddit they’d know this stuff

Idk why Ben even wanted that question answered

Literally the same response as every other time we’ve interacted with the devs

[thin lotus]

Tickets would suck. Shouldn't take a genius to know why

[covert elbow]

Couldn’t even bother to ask my question which went a bit more in-depth. Just went with the simple “do you listen to the community”

[covert elbow]

Ticket-Timer hybrid is the answer

[thin lotus]

Nah
nothing tied to tickets would benefit the game

[covert elbow]

And your reasoning for that chum?

[thin lotus]

Because it's incredibly easy to kill targets and the entire game revolves around looking for spawns

if you add tickets to the mix, what do you think is going to happen

[covert elbow]

So then the topic turns around to how to solve gunplay

[thin lotus]

Tickets are bad on their own

regardless of how simple HLLs gunplay is

[finite berry]

It would promote more cautious, slower gameplay. Players would adapt to that over time.

Counter point, HLL desperately needs tickets to set itself apart from run'n'gun games like Battlefield.

[covert elbow]

There’s a reason why tickets have been used in games since like… 2000

[finite berry]

yeah

[covert elbow]

There a way to make players think about their lives and how it affects the wider game

[finite berry]

Less than five messages before he pulls the "yOu dOnT eVeN hAvE tHe gAmE"-card again, calling it, but yeah, really would like to hear the argument why tickets supposedly are so bad

[thin lotus]

You dont own the game.

Most of HLLs players still dont grasp how caps work even after several years. They aren't adapting to anything that requires a higher level of considerations of what to do in even a pub match

[finite berry]

called it

[covert elbow]

COD’s the better comparison. Battlefield has been tickets since 1942

[thin lotus]

yeah, it's worth calling out because you dont even have the damn game

[covert elbow]

Lmao

[finite berry]

Think of something new.

That's a skill issue. Get a tutorial and train players in the community. If your argument was true, no game more complicated than CoD would ever work.

So your argument is invalid BS

[broken nebula]

we've taken a german OP

[finite berry]

As if that meant my statements were generally wrong.

[covert elbow]

Having tickets be on full display would teach people to be more cautious in the game and not waste their lives. Since there’s no tickets right now the game encourages human wave tactics and overwhelming the defending team with bodies.

Having tickets would heavily dissuade this tactic and make people actually think about map control and movement

[thin lotus]

I just told you why tickets are bad. You make the entire game about killing targets in the most exploitative way possible.
The winning team is already 99.99% of the time ahead on kills anyway, there's zero reason to make a conditions tied to spawn tickets

[finite berry]

Perhaps it's also kinda sad that a person who doesn't even own the game understands HLL's core problems and mechanics better than large portions of HLL's actual playerbase

[covert elbow]

So Battlefield is a terrible game franchise?

[finite berry]

Well, scratch the "Perhaps"

[wind shore]

This is sad

[finite berry]

It is, but not due to tickets.

[covert elbow]

Cause that’s what BF uses and it seems to have a very good gameplay loop

[thin lotus]

you can consider yourself smarter than the average HLL player
This isn't saying much btw

[finite berry]

Neither does me not owning the game

[thin lotus]

It's not difficult to draw just how flawed this mid-at-best game is lol

[finite berry]

That's true, tho

[covert elbow]

Not even mid lmao

It’s genuinely a 4/10

You get some cool moments for the first 20 hours but after that the games flaws become too numerable and obvious

You can still have fun but it becomes hard after a while

[finite berry]

I would genuinely appreciate it tho if you could take me seriously and argue against the arguments I'm trying to make here instead of acting as if me not owning the game invalidated everything I said. I only say something about HLL when I'm sure it's correct, and I frequently ask questions and ask people to correct me in case I got something wrong. So please consider me not an HLL-player, but a person who wants to have conversations about these topics with the better argument winning. Thanks.

[covert elbow]

Anyways

Yea a ticket-timer hybrid system would be the best of both worlds

Still get the long matches HLL is known for but makes it so the teams and players have to be strategic about spawn placements, movements, and general gameplay

[finite berry]

So a "attacker loses if he runs out of tickets or time" thing?

[covert elbow]

But first making gunplay more difficult absolutely needs to happen

[covert elbow]

Time

[finite berry]

Please elaborate

[covert elbow]

I’ve suggested it before but a system where each sector gets a certain amount of tickets to use as spawns for OP’s and Garrisons. With them being partially replenished when a new sector is taken or lost

[finite berry]

Ah

[covert elbow]

And if a spawn is placed in the red maybe only allow half the available tickets open for use

[lucid shore]

On pc, from what platform are the guys with the controller icon? Consoles?

[covert elbow]

Epic Games

And PC Gamepass

[stoic garnet]

Tickets would be bad. Chum is right that games with impactful ticket counts become kill orientated. Which is one of the reasons why tanks in battlefield can HE the toes of enemy inf and not get a kill. It requires high levels of symmetry to keep player impact in line

[finite berry]

And what is HLL now if not kill orientated?

[stoic garnet]

It’s spawn orientated.

[finite berry]

That doesn't quite make sense imo

A game is either kill orientated or objective orientated

Or both

And possibly in combination with time restrictions

[stoic garnet]

Kills don’t matter if you respawn every 20 seconds. Playing for space in the objective doesn’t matter if your enemy’s endlessly respawn every 20 seconds. If you want to gain ground, taking spawns in the only option. You win by playing for spawns. That is the consequence of a defender advantage low ttk game with quick respawns.

[finite berry]

Yesn't

[stoic garnet]

Just yes

[finite berry]

I see what you mean, but even if you took out all enemy spawns, that doesn't win you the game

Taking objective wins the game if I'm not mistaken

So I'd consider HLL to be objective-orientated

[cyan saddle]

Consider that killing the enemy lets you advance on their spawnpoints

[stoic garnet]

See the last message I sent before this conversation

Objective this objective that, my 3man has a 75% pub win rate and all we do is kill people and rush their spawn points. The point caps itself when the enemy is spawning 3 grids away

[finite berry]

Naturally

But taking out spawns does not win you the game

[stoic garnet]

You are being pedantic

[finite berry]

We are talking about mehcanics and stuff here that definitely makes you win or lose a game. Spawns are a big factor in contributing towards that, but they are not what makes you win or lose by definition.

[stoic garnet]

2x2 softcap means it is impossible to not cap the point when the enemy isn’t spawning

[finite berry]

Perhaps, but calling this game "spawn orientated" is just not correct in the way you're using it

Because then Squad would be "spawn orientated" too even though it has tickets

[stoic garnet]

No, squad has a much slower paced spawn loop

[finite berry]

Does that matter, tho?

[stoic garnet]

…yes

[finite berry]

How so?

[stoic garnet]

See above. Read the messages. The faster the spawn loop, the more important the spawns.

[finite berry]

This also does apply to Squad and Squad 44.

[stoic garnet]

Not to the same extent.

Not even close

[finite berry]

Especially during matches where team communication and coordination is lacking

Just follow the lemming train back to their spawns, blow them up, congratulations, you've won the match

[stoic garnet]

Anyways

If you want medic to be relevant with just revives you have to make existing revives more valuable by making a position you just got killed in more valuable than respawning. That means buffs on respawn or giga nerfed spawn timers.

Or you apply some creativity and allow them to be more than a res bot. Give them true support capabilities and limited to no revives. Morphine shot could speed boost squad mates or make them immune to suppression for 20 seconds. Lean into the wartime drugs angle, stuff like that.

Even then not very useful, and not very fun either I think

[finite berry]

or tickets

[stoic garnet]

Ok last time taking the bait. In the current state of the game, tickets would make medic worse. Ok.

[finite berry]

Let's just agree to disagree, imo it would make the medic from useless to super useful from one second to the next

[finite berry]

immune to suppression for 20 seconds

That sounds rather far-fetched and extremely arcadey

[covert elbow]

Suppression currently in game isn’t even that bad and is just visual flare

[stoic garnet]

Low ttk and position related deaths being the most common means most useful dead players are unrevivable, and just ticket loss bait for the team if the medic tried to revive. It is far fetched, it’s a bad class with no good solutions

[covert elbow]

Having some kind of boost when revived would be kinda nice

It falls into the Arcady camp though

[finite berry]

Naturally, medics would have to watch out to not get caught by enemy fire if they try to revive someone

[covert elbow]

Nah just make it so whoever kills a medic get kicked from the game for commiting a war crime /s

Or better idea

Add dragging. That’ll totally solve all of medics problems

[thorny acorn]

add medic being immune to friendly fire

[covert elbow]

And have reflective armor

[stoic garnet]

Time to stand in some doorways

[thorny acorn]

thorns 3

[covert elbow]

No armor of thorns from dark souls

[thorny acorn]

now the real question, should i breathe in 99% pure helium

[covert elbow]

Yes

It’ll take you to the promised land /s

[thorny acorn]

i dont feel so good

[vestal spear]

add canadians and let us throw soup cans !

[thorny acorn]

le soup*

[vestal spear]

were not from france

[thorny acorn]

Quebec

[vestal spear]

we dont talk about them ...

[crude oxide]

is mid round progress saving going to be added

i dont like grinding and crashing then losing like an hours worth

[covert elbow]

The wha?

[vestal spear]

you keep any progress or should its bonus and map xp youdotn get if u leave before the end

[stoic garnet]

It’s been a thing the whole time

Surprise

[crude oxide]

Fr

i thoght you had to wait to the end

[vestal spear]

just for bonus xp

[stoic garnet]

And bonus exp is only for career levels, your unlocks progress at the same speed regardless of finishing the match

Double surprise

[vestal spear]

concerned about xp go engi build nodes switch to the class you want to xp farm for

the engi xp off nodes will carry over to the class ur running

[empty steppe]

Wrong war 🤣

[vestal spear]

im just sayin ! would be fun to play the country that was the cause for the term Intimate warfare .

[empty steppe]

I will say the Canadians would be cool 😎

[vestal spear]

"wheres all the guns" oh we just use hammers its quieter . intense staring lol

[woven magnet]

Is posting a game clip link allowed? Had a funny moment I’d like to share lol

[gentle lintel]

#hll-videos 🙂

[woven magnet]

Idk how I overlooked that, thanks!

[tepid umbra]

@developers please take Skirmish maps off HLL servers

[covert elbow]

True

[vestal spear]

Skirmish but the cap point switches like ctf and the team who holds points longest wins.

[vestal spear]

i think thats a good idea. i made it a suggestion 😄

[topaz barn]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1343089641489961001 theres a comp team for everyone lv 20 to lv 300 or even more. bored of pub lobbys try a comp team lads and girls well worth it.

[midnight barn]

[shell owl]

A WW1 HLL would just be you sitting in a muddy trench for hours, getting occasionally bombarded with artillery and the occasional sniper till you either die of trenchfoot or get eaten by rats

[rough condor]

just made a division anyone know how i can post?

[worthy charm]

Not sure what you mean, but if you want to create or add a bump to a division post look into https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/522404111409217537

[cold radish]

Oh ww1 hll would be cool

I guess that could be hll2, a ww1 game, tho i feel like they wouldnt actually make brand new models or anything so prolly just gonna be in the pacific or smth

[wind shore]

daily reminder not to change the medic so you cant respawn if a medic is near you

i will min max how to kill as many friendly medics as possible

so far the counterplay would be kill 4 friendly medics and reset the automatic server kick counter by having a squad member teamkill you

dont make me do this T17

[oak current]

that double negative made my head hurt for a moment

I think one server has a ruling that you have to be level 500 as medic, else you get auto-slain within seconds by script

(or kicked)

[wind shore]

that would be the favorable solution

[pine breach]

You must be level 350 to play rifleman

[covert elbow]

I remember seeing a server that tells you that you suck **** when you pick certain roles

Which would kinda be funny the first time but any after would just be annoying

[midnight nacelle]

What people do with their servers is their business, more or less.

But I often see the "Snickers Bar" comment on Reddit and it's an absolute eye roll at this point. 🙄

[covert elbow]

Yea

[wind shore]

snickers bar?

[covert elbow]

Just really immature

[covert elbow]

Its a penis joke

Without saying penis

[wind shore]

still dont get it

[midnight nacelle]

"You eat a Snickers Bar upside down to feel the veined texture."

You can fill the gaps.

[covert elbow]

There we go

[oak current]

[wind shore]

aaaaaa i see

[oak current]

thanks for explaining it to us older folks @midnight nacelle

[wind shore]

yes the boomers appreciate you

[oak current]

We arent as hip and down with the youth as you, Big Jericho W no Cap, Skibidi

https://tenor.com/bD4oM.gif

[wind shore]

delulu skibidi

[oak current]

(inb4 that snickers bar thing is like 10+ years old)

yas

[wind shore]

kind of want a snickers bar now ngl

[oak current]

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

The evil has been slain

[oak current]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

fwoosh

This is like the Pepsi Version of a Thanos Snap

[midnight nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-gif-15449497793648793961

[wind shore]

have zoomers even watched american psycho

[covert elbow]

You mean the coke version

Because pepsi is the better option

[oak current]

Pepsi, cause its white + blue on that gif

[covert elbow]

Ah

[wind shore]

repulsive

minus 4 points on the bro list for ninja

[oak current]

you can have your Coke vs Pepsi fight - I'm chilling here with my MezzoMix

[pine ember]

Paulaner > MezzoMix

[oak current]

Fair fair, but MezzoMix more available in my area

[wind shore]

even more repulsive

[oak current]

Can a mod ban this person? thanks

[pine ember]

Ok, thats a good point, Paulaner might be a South Germany only thing

[oak current]

[oak current]

he says to the franconian

[midnight nacelle]

Classic Coke Cola, it's timeless.
(I will accept sponsorship. 🤑)

[pine ember]

Ohhh

Greetings from Württemberg

But why is there no Paulaner in Franconia?

[oak current]

probs not in all of franconia, just not in my usual buying spots

[pine ember]

Ahhh, makes sense

[oak current]

I also love how mess-hall got overtaken for coke-talk

[pine ember]

Here, you get Spezi everywhere, even my local brewery makes its own version

Spezi > Coke

[covert elbow]

Both are awful but at least Pepsi has a hint of flavor

[midnight nacelle]

It's the Year 2069.
The Soda Wars are upon us.

[covert elbow]

Coke is just pure chemical and sadness

[oak current]

Soda? that lil green fella?

[midnight nacelle]

Where are from again @covert elbow ?

[covert elbow]

Alaska

[oak current]

May the Fizz be with you

Remember: "I find your lack of carbonation disturbing."

[midnight nacelle]

Ah, I assume you don't have "V Energy" over there? I think it's a Au/NZ Product.

[oak current]

very eery

Mountain Dew… or Dew not. There is no try.

[pine breach]

I bet you do

https://tenor.com/view/snap-ok-gif-9278511018801673946

[covert elbow]

Idk what that is no

[midnight nacelle]

Banned.

[midnight nacelle]

It's just another energy drink, it's easily my favourite and Red Bull is a safe neutral but I'm really not a fan of them in general.

[covert elbow]

Oh yea I don’t ever drink energy drinks except for gamer supps if I really need a caffeine boost

Mainly stick to coffee though

[pine ember]

Are we allowed to talk about alkoholics here?

[gentle lintel]

Only tankaholics

[midnight nacelle]

I suppose if we want to continue we could jump over to #off-topic-mess-hall but I don't want to hear about depravity. 😂

We drink responsibly in these parts. 🤠

[pine ember]

I have mine in a tank

[pine ember]

Do we?

[midnight nacelle]

Perhaps we should ask #1352691326898147408 Coke or Pepsi? 😂

[midnight nacelle]

Try again, you must spell it correctly first time for the bot to read it.

.divagree

[pine breach]

.disagree

[novel geyser]

oh heelll yeah

[wind shore]

i moved on to pulver energy drinks

im was a big energy drinks fan but those pulver thingies are really cool, especially because you dont have to bother with the cans

[worthy charm]

Pig reign forever

[arctic rampart]

When new emojis???

[arctic rock]

guys welp

why wont voip connect for me

[arctic rampart]

The desert internet isn't too good

[arctic rock]

no my internet is perfect lol

[worthy charm]

Bad Solid

[arctic rock]

60mbs per sec

[worthy charm]

Shoo🧹

[arctic rock]

hmm weird

windows doesnt detect hell let loose as an app it thinks its a part of epic games launcher

[arctic rampart]

When you speak it's 90mb/s, so 60 only transmits 2/3 words

[arctic rock]

o

ima upgrade next month than

but i dont have vc problems in any games at all

[arctic rampart]

HLL is different

[arctic rock]

o but i remember i had voip when i downloaded the game and after that for quite a while

[arctic rampart]

Maybe they heard you said bad words and turned it off

like a mute or smth

[cosmic pilot]

I will execute you (in a video game)

[arctic rock]

nah i dont think i did

[slate canopy]

You should launch it through Epic launcher. At least that is my understanding.

[arctic rock]

ok will try gimme a sec

[wind shore]

Console or Pc?

[arctic rock]

pc

[winged tangle]

When Poland and Finland ?

[arctic rampart]

When will pointless questions disappear?

[nova pivot]

Never🥲

[obtuse jetty]

I need people to get mics can’t find a public server with funny people anymore 😢

[arctic rampart]

And I need people to buy my old airsoft kit, but it is what it is

[obtuse jetty]

It is what it is

[pine breach]

@gentle lintel sounding like a frenchman.

[slate canopy]

Are you playing on community or official? If official, switch to community.

[obtuse jetty]

I’m really not sure didn’t pay attention to that, will do if I’m on official thanks

[crude hamlet]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[wind shore]

french ones

they are the most brainded

[novel geyser]

I think there is a bug with the player stats where the longest headshot value overwrites the longest kill one
I remember before getting a longer kill than longer headshot but the headshot distance replaced the kill one

[crude hamlet]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[empty steppe]

I tried to read that twice but I’m still confused

[crude hamlet]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[novel geyser]

if you get a non-headshot kill at 200m and a headshot at 150m, the stats will overwrite the 200m as the longest kill to 150m same as the longest headshot

[empty steppe]

Ah ok that makes since

[novel mantle]

Pacific? Yeah sure, let's get the Italian-Japanese war

[novel geyser]

burma when

more importantly where is my community artist role

[slate panther]

Peek my head back in
first guy I see is named "HLL is not a Milsim"
man absolutely nothing has changed with the state of discourse here has it

[novel geyser]

my name has been this for a while

but it still stands

[slate panther]

Not really. Its just a thought-terminating cliche to justify the game's many undercooked mechanics for the most part.

[novel geyser]

never said the game wasnt undercooked, because it is

its just not a milsim

[slate panther]

the pacific wouldnt require new models?

[cosmic pilot]

Are you a tartar

[slate panther]

https://tenor.com/view/whothefuckstartsaconversation-gif-22983824

[cyan saddle]

HLL1 being about WW2 and HLL2 being about WW1 sounds funny when you think about it

[cosmic pilot]

Not as funny as BF 1 being a WW1 game and bf5 the sixth instalment being ww2

[cyan saddle]

BF2 was taken already

how sad

[slate panther]

BF2 is more deserving of that title

[thin lotus]

HLL2: Teleports Behind You

[cyan saddle]

BFV is fun, been playing it again recently

[slate panther]

holy f**k chum is still here

[thin lotus]

You’re missing big 2025 updates

Big, huge even

[cosmic pilot]

He'll survive the heat death of the universe at this rate

Big if true

[slate panther]

Theyve at least raised an eyebrow more than another normandy map. Lets see if they execute on any of them.

[thin lotus]

Expectations are low and the devs are playing up every minor and inconsequential thing as bombastic

[novel geyser]

the fact people even still bring up HLL2 like it would ever be a possibility is funny to me

[cosmic pilot]

They want YOUR 🫵 feedback 🥱

[slate panther]

It would be the best move if the game wasn't on total life support.

[novel geyser]

theres no chance they'd ever make this game from scratch

[slate panther]

And theres no chance they could make the sequel better without angering players who are married to undercooked mechanics.

But in an ideal world where the game actually had enough momentum as a business venture that would be the best move.

[thorny acorn]

GUYS PACIFIC 2026 confirmed, I'm not a shizo

[slate panther]

yep nothing has changed at all

[cold radish]

Not really

You can reskin a lot of the current ones

[slate panther]

you gonna put a french hamlet on iwo jima?

[cold radish]

And america is already done

[slate panther]

you gonna paint a german uniform brown?

hand em a kar98?

[novel geyser]

I could see black matter just slapping the current americans into the pacific with no care whatso ever

[finite berry]

You do realise that the US had other uniforms and also other weapons in the Pacific, depending on the year?

[finite berry]

what

[slate panther]

id bet a significant amount of money that they would

[obtuse jetty]

You got what you were given

[finite berry]

What you gonna do, give the Japanese Lee-Enfields or K98ks?

[finite berry]

Yes, which could differ vastly from what the troops used in Europe

[obtuse jetty]

Correctly marines didn’t always have good quality like the army did in Europe

[finite berry]

Reising M50 for example

For Guadalcanal, USMC still used lots of Springfields

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chat-cat-fall-hello-chat-cat-gif-24961178

[finite berry]

etc etc etc

[obtuse jetty]

Yeah

[covert elbow]

I see the schizo posting is already in good order

[covert elbow]

Probably lmao

[finite berry]

I'd bet any amount that they would. This game doesn't give a sh it about weapon distribution anyway

[slate panther]

BM absolutely would have, T17 might make a marines faction with a few weapons swapped around.

[novel geyser]

unironically tho the only pacific I kinda want to see is burma

[slate panther]

theyd run into the same issues of tank balance and the foliage setting your gpu on fire

[covert elbow]

Pacific would absolutely need to be its own game so it could include all aspects of the pacific war

[finite berry]

Don't worry, it's gonna happen with HLL2 that surely will come out

[novel geyser]

HLL2 next week

[finite berry]

Source: made it the fu ck up

[covert elbow]

People just think of the USMC late war campaign and Guadalcanal from the pacific show and World At War. They don’t bother to think about how its was a conflict that spanned half the globe

Could have Burma, island hopping campaign, China, the Russian invasion, etc

[slate panther]

granted you dont need to include the entire pacific war.

[finite berry]

Many people just base their "add the Pacific it's gonna be sooo good" off nostalgia feelings from old games

[novel geyser]

yknow theres probably a good reason rs1 didnt have tanks, asside from probably not being able to do RO2s interiors

[covert elbow]

Yep

[finite berry]

Can't wait for the rap-, I mean Battle of Nanking DLC

[covert elbow]

I’ve heard RO2 tanks were a blessing and a curse where since they were so detailed it took years to actually add in new tanks

[novel geyser]

next map after the eastern front one like I said will be called "the pacific" and will have US vs Germany on a single tiny island

[slate panther]

RS1 could have done tanks, theyd just need to design the map right. Some RO2 maps, IIRC, also had only one side with tanks.

[finite berry]

Perfect. T17 should hire you post-haste

[novel geyser]

yeah I dont actually think they ended up adding any new tanks

[covert elbow]

It’s actually a British commando raid on a Norwegian island but it’s the U.S. versus Germans in winter camo

[novel geyser]

oh yeah I forget only one side usually has tanks. some maps did have tank combat but a lot were just one side

[slate panther]

The only real tricky one would be a sherman due to a lack of Japanese counter measures that arent meme tier

Did that rocket launcher see use ever?

[covert elbow]

No

That got abandoned pretty much right after 1942

It’s also funny how people keep clambering for the lunge mine from BFV despite how awful that weapon is

You die on impact and have to get right against a tank

Like cool for ambushes but idk it just seems unfun

[slate panther]

42?

[covert elbow]

I wonder how S:44 handles it

[covert elbow]

Yea

It barely saw any service along with AT rifles

I honestly don’t know how the Japanese handled anti-tank combat

[novel geyser]

I think s44 has the lunge mine

[wintry thistle]

RS1 actually was planning to add tanks

Think the only tank would be a HA-GO for the Japanese

[covert elbow]

Pretty much

[slate panther]

Anti tank guns and grenades

[covert elbow]

The Japanese had like one tank and they didn’t bother to ever update it meaningfully

[slate panther]

"didnt bother" implies they could

[covert elbow]

No they could but from what I can tell they just waited until the Allie’s was on its doorstep and then saved all the good upgraded and new weapons for the homeland

Probably because the navy took all the materials required to make new vehicles and tanks from the army

[finite berry]

You die and perhaps manage to damage or even destroy the tank. But the AT class also has magnetic mines, so a skilled player will place those before maybe suiciding using the lunge mine. Overall, it still gets used as a meme weapon. People know that it's ineffective because you literally blow yourself up every time you use it, but it's dumb fun, so they simply go with it.

[slate panther]

I believe its given to the engineer?

[finite berry]

There is no engineer class, only AT.

[covert elbow]

Makes sense

[finite berry]

And the logistics section.

But there is no such nonsense like the lunge mine having a higher chance to kill a tank to balance it in comparison to rocket launchers. Japanese simply have to deal with the fact that they have a garbage AT weapon that robs their own team of one ticket every time you use it.

[slate panther]

well most factions have the sapper with the close range explosives and that is seperate from the at class.

[finite berry]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, sapper also is a thing, but the Japanese sapper doesn't have a lunge mine.

lemme check

[slate panther]

A sapper is a combat engineer, ftr.

[finite berry]

Fair

Anyway, Japanese sapper comes with a satchel and a Type 100

That's it :)

[slate panther]

Oh they still get the smg

[finite berry]

#off-topic-mess-hall message

That's the magnetic mine the Japanese have

Japanese AT gets a lunge mine, two magnetic mines and two regular frags, that's it

So basically you have three attempts of blowing up a tank, and one of them will 100% kill you

[slate panther]

sounds about right, probably would work for HLL too.

[finite berry]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_99_mine

[finite berry]

yup, definitely

[slate panther]

Burma-based British forces carried out tests of captured Type 99 mines on Stuart and Lee tanks and found the mine to be extremely effective against armor of 20 mm or less but largely ineffective against armor of 35 mm or higher.
mmm

[finite berry]

Japanese doctrine called for infantry, usually hiding along the side of the road, to throw the Type 99 mine against horizontal surfaces at a distance of 2 to 3 meters.
Interesting

[slate panther]

I still hold that the best solution is to simply not include a sherman

[slate panther]

theyre magnetic

[finite berry]

For HLL, yeah, probably

[slate panther]

For PS too if Iwo Jima was not an utterly hellish climb for the yankees

Its not inauthentic to have a battle where a certain item just doesnt show up.

[wintry thistle]

They upgraded the Chi Ha with a more powerful gun

[covert elbow]

Actually was reading though my HLL Bazooka manual and I wrote down that the weapon never saw use dispite it being tested and 3,500 being manufactured

[covert elbow]

That got saved for homeland defense

[wintry thistle]

I'm talking about the Type 97 Shinhōtō Chi-Ha

[covert elbow]

Oh my mistake

Only 900 built???

[wintry thistle]

Might be thinking of the Chi Nu

[finite berry]

Yeah, Chi-Nu was the big boi with the 75 mm gun

That was saved for home defence that never came because all of a sudden two suns rose over Japan

[slate panther]

actually considering how death in hll is kinda meaningless the suicide stick may be straight up viable

[covert elbow]

No absolutely

Hell it’s be more effective then a satchel because you immediately get another lunge mine when you use it

[slate panther]

US logistics hates this one simple trick

[lucid tusk]

900 isn't that small of a number really, the wirbelwind shows up in media all the time and they only made about 100

[finite berry]

oof, true

[covert elbow]

Yea just suprised when you realize this is the main Japanese battle tank

[slate panther]

the wirbelwind is also dumb and shows up in games usually just to have an aa tank

[finite berry]

Another issue that tickets would solve :D

Admittedly, the Wirbelwind looks bloody sexy

[lucid tusk]

Don't you dare call my precious wirbelwind dumb

[finite berry]

right ❤️

[slate panther]

I wouldnt try to "solve" death being meaningless in this game. Death shouldnt be overtly benificial like it can be, but the lack of tickets allows HLL to slaughter the players in a way that is integral to the game's very visceral vibe. It also prevents newbies from feeding which is great as this game is usually an entryway for people into this genre.

[finite berry]

Death shouldnt be overtly benificial like it can be
Fair, but death being 110% meaningless like it is now isn't good either; it's on CoD level

[slate panther]

Its shoot for a good 80-90%

[thin lotus]

Have you ever played cod either

[finite berry]

Unfortunately, I did

[covert elbow]

Doesn’t COD also use tickets?

[finite berry]

Can't say for sure for all CoD games, but I don't think so

[slate panther]

actaully yeah wait COD has the killstreak system and several modes have death as the score counter.

[wind shore]

I presented my COD disc to my friend

I don’t like Black ops

[finite berry]

That's not tickets. Tickets are a team resource, not some random counter going up.

[thin lotus]

🙄

You’re splitting hairs

[covert elbow]

Inb4 a mod comes in and says they should add killstreaks to the game

[covert elbow]

For what? Tickets?

[finite berry]

Sorry, but I belong to the ever-shrinking minority of people that use correct definitions instead of making random stuff up

[covert elbow]

Chum there’s a reason most to all shooters in this genre use them

[thin lotus]

I never said tickets was a bad thing m8

[finite berry]

fake news

[thin lotus]

For hll it changes up the dynamic more than most people in favor of such a system realize

[thin lotus]

Yes that is in discussion of it being in hll

[finite berry]

fair

[finite berry]

It also prevents newbies from feeding which is great as this game is usually an entryway for people into this genre. Fair point and I see what you mean, but imo it's not the right way to dumb this game down. It's already a rather hard and punishing game, so dumbing it down too hard for new players kind of contradicts the idea that sets this game apart from games like Battlefield.

[covert elbow]

Litteraly has an entire discussion yesterday where you did lmao

[thin lotus]

Yes in hll. Tickets would suck in hll

[covert elbow]

That’s… that’s the point

[finite berry]

exactly lol

People in favour of tickets are in favour of tickets because they want to change up the dynamics

[thin lotus]

Not in any way that you’re hoping

[covert elbow]

Guess I’ll say it again for the people in the back. Game needs a relaunch

[arctic rampart]

Guess I'll say it again for the people in the front. It's not happening

Go precision strike a barbed wire and be happy about it

[thin lotus]

Surely this will shake up the game

Devs are clueless

[covert elbow]

Oh yea I still need to make my precision strike and flamethrower question

Is it even worth it?

[arctic rampart]

I'll send my support 4 grids over to destroy some nodes with the flamethrower that he most likely doesn't have

[arctic rampart]

No, because:

• They won't take it
• The QnA is regarding TOBRUK, not just anything in regards to the update

[covert elbow]

I mean it’s definitely a good addition. Problem is that it should have been there from the beginning and the flamethrower needs so much more

[arctic rampart]

It's just a meme

[covert elbow]

Wait what?

What do you mean it’s just Tobruk

[arctic rampart]

Having a support that runs flamethrower by enemy nodes has around the same chance of happening as me running out of ammo and taking some more from an ammo box.

[covert elbow]

Who said that

[arctic rampart]

It's in the name

[covert elbow]

Ah I see what you mean

You are incorrect

[arctic rampart]

He literally said "if you have any questions regarding Tobruk, feel free to pop them into there" (into there, as in into the qna post)

[late gazelle]

When’s the update dropping?

[arctic rampart]

That's why it seems dumbfounded to me to see people ask about new weaponry for the AT role in a QnA dedicated to the upcoming map

[arctic rampart]

Some time in April

[late gazelle]

👀

Damm lol

Need it nowwww!!!

[arctic rampart]

Nothing huge is gonna change anyways. It's essentially just gonna be one map

[covert elbow]

Same with questions regarding the roadmap. Most of those questions didn’t even relate

[arctic rampart]

Yeah ik

[lucid tusk]

Most of those questions didn't get answers

[thin lotus]

“Is there sand in Tobruk map?”
“Yes”
“Omg huge update”

[arctic rampart]

But, just like Poison just said, that's the most annoying part. That a good portion of the good questions were just avoided lel

[lucid tusk]

"Never say never" is the new "watch this space"

[arctic rampart]

This sounds so awesome when I say it in my head

[thin lotus]

This new phrase is easily worse

[covert elbow]

“News of News”

[lucid tusk]

I'll actually argue that, "never say never" gives the illusion of hope while still leaving room for doubt, "watch this space" implies that it is coming and removes doubt

When you should always doubt

[covert elbow]

Also I’m already taking bets for when the roadmap releases next year. Got $20 on May already who else wants to bet?

[arctic rampart]

There you go boys: #hll-memes message

[lucid tusk]

he thinks we're getting content in 2026

[slate panther]

It achieves the desired effect (or more likely accidental-yet-valued effect)
Generally theres better ways to design a game than "not being battlefield"

[covert elbow]

Butbutbutbut Greg promised!

[lucid tusk]

Each year will represent one year of the war guys, we swear, we somehow turned a small gunfight between the wehrmacht and disgruntled postal employees into a full map but trust us it's coming

[covert elbow]

Yea I’ve heard the poles weren’t even soliders

[thin lotus]

I find non-committal phrases much more grating.
Part of having competency is knowing what you can, won’t, or cannot do. “Never say never” is some weird tease when the answer is obviously “no”.

[lucid tusk]

At least we can agree it's all corpo word salad

[covert elbow]

They don’t want to go down BM’s route probably

[slate panther]

They were postal workers. The Germans were Danzig police.
However, the Battle of Brecourt Manor was even smaller than this.

[covert elbow]

Yea lmao

The more I think about those battles is how much I realize maybe BM should have just made an RTS game

Cause they might have had more success

[slate panther]

The original picth for HLL was Company of Heros metagame with Red Orchestra 2 gunplay.

[covert elbow]

Yea that’s what I’ve heard and seen

Cool concept. Terrible execution

[thin lotus]

The only similarity they stated to ro2 was with the gore effects

[lucid tusk]

Wheres the red orchestra gun play, I want my aiming box

[slate panther]

Terrible execution implies it wasnt abandoned entirely before EA launch.

[covert elbow]

Lmao yea

[covert elbow]

Even those are bad…

[novel mantle]

Red Ochestra 2 is still the best and most fun Eastern Front fps game out there

[covert elbow]

Like the gores cool the first time but seeing someone explode like a Lego for the 20th time is just weird

[slate panther]

Is there any other fps game that focuses solely on the Eastern Front?

[covert elbow]

Especially when it’s from a frag or a shotgun

[novel mantle]

Tannenberg? lol

[covert elbow]

Lmao

[lucid tusk]

Tannenberg was such a letdown but I genuinely loved isonzo

[slate panther]

I guess

[novel mantle]

Other way around for me

[slate panther]

Isonzo is far better than I expected but the gunplay still leaves much to be desired.

[lucid tusk]

I prefer the attack/defend style from verdun/isonzo, wish they'd do a full on sequel to Verdun with improved Isonzo mechanics

[novel mantle]

Just not the gunplay please, I hate Isonzo's gunplay

[lucid tusk]

It's painfully simple but at least your character breathes

[covert elbow]

Honesty getting a remaster package with updates to visuals, gunplay, and gameplay would be amazing

[slate panther]

It doesnt feel much different to the previous two. This series' gunplay has always been kind of a weak spot.

[covert elbow]

Tannenberg and Verdun got PS5 upgrades but they still definitely look and play old. Plus the AI ain’t that smart

[lucid tusk]

Expanded maps with added gameplay elements like ammo boxes and fortifications would be a godsend, passchendael or picardy with isonzos gameplay would be a great ww1 experience

[slate panther]

In truth I think a casual game where it takes 2-3 bullets to kill would actually suit that setting much better. That puts much more strain on the limited ammunition and lets the gunfights be more drawn out.

[covert elbow]

Actually you might be right about this since all the content creators are posting stuff specifically about to Tobruk lmao

[arctic rampart]

I mean BENNY BOY SAID IT IN THE STREAM

so there's that

[lucid tusk]

So it's just questions regarding the map?

[slate panther]

is... is that the strike rework? Is that it?

[arctic rampart]

Who knows, but that is the thing that was showcased in the last PTE, about precisions being able to damage fortifications

[slate panther]

Nothing was said in the stream? They mentioned their goals with the other reworks.

[covert elbow]

Presumably. And flamethrower is just the ability to destroy nodes

[covert elbow]

Yea… not really

Those weren’t goals. Those were ideas

In a modern referential sentence. “They have plans of plans.”

[slate panther]

honestly just give the flamer kit a f***ing rifle

[slate panther]

Did they not say they intended to fix the arty spawncamping strategy and to get people to not redeploy immediately?

[covert elbow]

Not historically accurate

It’s the flamethrower itself that needs work

Giving the kit a rifle doesn’t solve anything

[covert elbow]

Kinda? They didn’t really go in-depth in the arty changes and they said an idea for medic was to make people not able to redeploy when in a certain radius of them

But also for arty they just need to get rid of it

[slate panther]

It solves the fact that you are uttely useless outside of a flamethrower range.
The flamethrower also needs a buff in general, but if you give him a rifle the kit becomes viable as is. We already see this with the AT rifle.

[covert elbow]

Even making it destroyable doesn’t solve the issue since recon will inevitably have to go back and destroy them, creating the same loop and making it 100% mandatory

Make it a commander ability, remove the guns from the map, and introduce a mortar squad. Problem solved

[slate panther]

I don't think they've actually settled on what to do for either of them. And, to give more credit than is probably warranted, it is often good to prototype several solutions to an existing problem and then decide one path to peruse.

[covert elbow]

For some stuff I agree. Artillery is not one of them

There’s a very obvious and widely agreed upon solution here

[novel geyser]

watch T17 pick the worst solution for arty

[covert elbow]

Makes a safe sector and moves the guns back there

[slate panther]

I have experience making multiplayer FPS games, so trust me when I say that no solution is obvious until youve actually tested it. All the analysis in the world cant beat out a live prototype

[covert elbow]

God who made the suggestion to make artillery naval guns and have someone control a ship

Can’t remember if that was a joke or not

[slate panther]

now some can be obviously bad of course lmao

[covert elbow]

I will choose to not believe you and keep spreading my gospel. Aka the holy truth

[slate panther]

understandable

[arctic rampart]

Here's another: #hll-memes message

[slate panther]

Of course its also likely something half assed like making the enemy spawn a turn-back zone

[covert elbow]

What’s that

[covert elbow]

“Banned for Nazi insignia”

[slate panther]

"you are leaving the combat area return in 10 seconds"

[covert elbow]

Ah that

[finite berry]

The grenade lmfao

[covert elbow]

Yea

[arctic rampart]

I tried my best to imitate the look of a squad member speaking

[paper torrent]

Why does Discord still exist

[covert elbow]

Why not

[worthy charm]

Its better than TS

[paper torrent]

Istg it's nothing but peds, narcs and sociopaths here

[slate panther]

its a server for a ww2 game so probably

[paper torrent]

TS is for 30 year olds milsim players and their groomed victims

Im out

[covert elbow]

What the **** was that lmao

[worthy charm]

Fastest troll in the wild west

[covert elbow]

No he’s still here surprisingly

[empty steppe]

Are you including yourself in that?

[past vortex]

reflection

he probably voted for a ped, so he compensates by calling random people that
right @paper torrent ?

[arctic rampart]

I mean, he's not entirely wrong.
Discord has turned into a comms platform for gamers, to a really big, monetized shi* hole

[worthy charm]

Are you guys all hyped for ads on discord?

I hope you are!

[past vortex]

he is right about the old people thing, the kids dont like discord anymore generally :}

[covert elbow]

Wait what

[covert elbow]

What are they using?

[past vortex]

there will be no adds unless they shut down the browser version :D

[worthy charm]

There are rumors they plan to go public.

[arctic rampart]

Once you start going around, you'd be surprised what you find.
Everything from dating discords, to pyramid scheme free-game discords, to various illicit activites regarding femboys, various service shops, etc.

"Gaming" and "hobbies" are just this above-water normie stuff.
Like going into a discord with 200k+ people, is just pointless, outside of getting various announcements. You can't properly talk there or do anything there, nor' does anyone from the staff of such a discord care

[covert elbow]

I’m gonna go crazy for coco puffs

[covert elbow]

I love the specified “various illicit activities regarding femboys” lmao

[past vortex]

femboys are indeed a popular bait on discord :D

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, I was looking for some airsoft discords today to sell my stuff on, since, chances are most of 'em have some kind of buy/sell/trade channel.
Anyways, I found out that there's really only 1 main airsoft discord and past that you have the "tactical femboys" where in their description they literally say that they're every color under the sun, femboys and they send each other gore and NSFW stuff.
So... quite the airsoft discord indeed.
And that's a public one, as in, they chose to list themselves on a discord-sharing website.

it would be insane to find out what kind of great discords exist that aren't public

[past vortex]

your fixation on femboys is concerning tho

:}

[arctic rampart]

Y'know how on many image sharing websites you can rng the URL and find random images? I was thinking of doing that for discord servers and just see what I can come up with

[worthy charm]

Femboy suppremecy

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, cause their internet activites usually are the weirdest of the bunch

[covert elbow]

No it’s not. They are the future after all.

[past vortex]

solid seems to have a scpecial interest in that

wouldnt have singled that out otherwise :}

[arctic rampart]

You go to like lgbtq discords, anime discords or normie gaming discords (think like LoL, Minecraft and Valorant), all you find is a self-glazing circle-jerk.

[covert elbow]

Oh so like this discord

[arctic rampart]

Considering we openly talk about better alternatives, don't know if it falls under that

[past vortex]

i still think you are especially interested in that stuff

[arctic rampart]

And we're quick to correct and dunk on one another instead of promoting the most dogwater of ideas, gameplay styles or topics

[arctic rampart]

Yes, I am.

[past vortex]

else you would mention the nz discords etc

[cosmic pilot]

even the age of empires discord is like that

[worthy charm]

Didnt Comrade left? Isnt this Discord like 1000% less toxic than before?

[arctic rampart]

Don't remember off the top of my head who that is

[cosmic pilot]

he did, but i know where he is

[cosmic pilot]

the japanese commie that talked like a british boomer

[past vortex]

hyrum got his IP

[worthy charm]

I dont wouldnt dare to ask...👀

[arctic rampart]

Watching the weirdos on discord is quite interesting to me.
Y'know.. it's like walking outside, you see some small animal walking around. You stop, you just look at them and monitor what they do.
It's kind of the same thing. You're monitoring these... things... that are in some ways similar, but in others, so weird and unique

[worthy charm]

Ewwwww, walking outside. I stopped at that part and wont read further

[arctic rampart]

You play LoL, not surprised

[past vortex]

its spring

[cosmic pilot]

couldn't find what i was looking for but found this gem instead
#off-topic-mess-hall message

[covert elbow]

Wait he was Japanese?

I always assumed he was American lmao

[cosmic pilot]

european detected

[covert elbow]

I’m American

I know my own people

[cosmic pilot]

aparently not

[worthy charm]

Wow😂
I found another gem #off-topic-mess-hall message

[covert elbow]

If you think Americans can’t be communists you need to talk to more people haha

[cosmic pilot]

but that has nothing to do with assuming he was american

[covert elbow]

It is?

[cosmic pilot]

he talked like he was british

[covert elbow]

I never thought that

[cosmic pilot]

and old

[past vortex]

its hard to do in the rural backwaters tho

[covert elbow]

He just sounded like a stupid American communist who talked more “refined” to claim everyone else was illiterate and stupid, thus justifying his communism is the greatest thing in the world

[arctic rampart]

Oh, when you linked to the poll bs, I remember that now xD

[past vortex]

old brits are the best

[covert elbow]

I’ve talked with a few of them over the years

[past vortex]

:}

[cosmic pilot]

he was an exchange student to australia or something, which explains his accent

[past vortex]

i sometimes play on tea & country specifically for the old brits

[arctic rampart]

The only problem of trying to get to the old brits is that you also have to deal with the new brits :/

And they're like 3x annoying

[cosmic pilot]

ben 🗿

[arctic rampart]

Nah' Bens probs like what? 32?
I mean like the 16-24 range

Okay, bump that up to 27

[worthy charm]

I see, im lucky to not being british I guess.😅

[covert elbow]

43*

Actually wait no

79 years old

[novel geyser]

when did they make the flair gun reloadable instead of a cooldown

[worthy charm]

I think that was always like this.

Couldnt remember it having a CD...

[novel geyser]

im 99.9% sure it used to be a cooldown

[covert elbow]

It wasn’t

[novel geyser]

really?

I swear I remember people mentioning it was

[worthy charm]

Sometimes the 0.1% is enough.

[novel geyser]

I will refuse facts and go with what I believe

[covert elbow]

Balling

[midnight nacelle]

The flare gun has no reload, but can only be reloaded a couple times per life. This may be your confusion.

[covert elbow]

Wait what???

Why did they do that???

I stg every time I learn something new about this game it never fails to confuse me

[past vortex]

the recon tank "photo" has a cooldown

[novel geyser]

no I specifically remember it being a cooldown like the supply box

[real parrot]

Yes, you can resuply the flare gun at explosive ammo boxes and reload it, but it has no cooldown like the recon tank

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[novel geyser]

i know it does but I seem to remember it being a cooldown rather than something you can resupply

[wind shore]

why do I get banned for "abuse" when all I did was help push people in a sherman on a snow map?

[real parrot]

I have been playing for near 2 years and I don't remember that

[wind shore]

Like I was just pushing, firing HE at enemy positions, then I get banned for 1 hour for abuse

no vote or anything

[pine breach]

why do I not get banned for pushing a sherman into people?

[real parrot]

You got vote-kicked

[wind shore]

can tell you use reddit

[wind shore]

yh but whats the logic

[pine breach]

wrong

[real parrot]

Democracy

[pine breach]

i don't use any social media except for discord, try again

[real parrot]

Youtube counts

[wind shore]

you paid for a profile theme is a similar kind of person

but whats the logic in this tho, it happens like every 2 games

if I ever get past the 20 mins of queuing

[midnight nacelle]

It's a really slow reload, I wish it was a cooldown. If you exit or switch seats it'll cancel the reload.

[pine breach]

you probably don't have a job yet ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[real parrot]

Your attitude is not democratic enough

Visit the nearest democratic officer and report for reeducation

[wind shore]

bruh I spent like half my paycheck on this sorry excuse for a game

[pine breach]

this discord is communist. You can't have a opinion, shadow

[real parrot]

Ha, imagine paying for this game

[wind shore]

this is deffo one of those redditor games

[pine breach]

where are you from?

[real parrot]

I got it gifted and then the game bugged and I got every DLC for free

[wind shore]

the moon

[real parrot]

And then I discovered that this game actually sucks

[wind shore]

arma 3 modded is better than ts 🙏

at least the units are crap

[real parrot]

Not very hard

[pine breach]

Did you join discord in 2025 just to cry about the game, wicked?

[real parrot]

Happens a lot in comm servers, but doing it in official is like Karen typo

[pine breach]

no

[grave mason]

I love this game anyone play on ps5?

[real parrot]

🤮

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/bg3-baldur's-gate-3-jergal-withers-dnd-gif-6868901949040158862

[grave mason]

https://tenor.com/view/cut-your-whining-pop-son-of-a-critch-111-stop-whining-gif-25212099

[real parrot]

Embed fail react this fool

[slate canopy]

You can find fellow console players in #console-general-chat and #console-looking-for-unit

[shy moth]

hello there, are you experiencing low fps lately?

[slate canopy]

I last played.... saturday, had no issues.

[hexed radish]

Anyone elses voice chat randomly doesnt work in killed in action screen?

Anyone elses commander abilities randomly get stuck after e.g rotating abilities 3-4 times?

Like it cant only be me right? anyone else have these bugs?

[slate canopy]

As in rotate the position or between abilities?

[hexed radish]

I place recon plane. I rotate 3-4 times. I can no longer rotate or move the ability. I need to switch to another ability and back again to work

Every single game, about every 3 or every other time I try to do something as commander on the map

Everyone has this bug right? on Epic games?

[slate canopy]

I've had it get stuck for a moment, and I just switch. I haven't played a commander game in a while though. As for VC, no issues.

[hexed radish]

How frequent?

[past vortex]

does happen

[slate canopy]

Occasional? I don't pay attention, it's not frequent.

[past vortex]

also not that rare

might depend on how you click idk

vc activation is notoriously buggy :[

[hexed radish]

Ok my point is, this game needs operation health more than anything. Jumping over fences doesnt work half the time, proning snaps your camera randomly. Game just feels frustrating to play, there are so many bug that occour ** every** match, uncommon but still. This game feels like it is still in beta

[past vortex]

the vaulting requires getting used to

once you got the hang it almost always works

[hexed radish]

And how there are no bush sounds if someone is turning around in bushes, like I have seen this suggestion in literally every strategic FPS yet no one can implement this anti-bush feature. Its logical, it nerfs camping and rewards players that pay attention with their sound

[past vortex]

still stupid ofc

[slate canopy]

No bush sounds? that's a new one 🤔 I've literally never heard that complaint before. Sure, people hide in bushes... shoot the bush.

[hexed radish]

No not a bug, a feature, a logical feature that every game is not capable of adding

[past vortex]

it surly could use that

[vestal spear]

"aim for the bushes"

[hexed radish]

You are in a bush, you move your gun around - why wouldnt there be a sound. I have seen this suggestion in hunt Showdown, Arma, Squad, escape from Tarkov - yet I dont think any of these games have it.

[paper torrent]

don't forget you're talking to the exact type of gremlin i'm talking about

[slate canopy]

You are free to suggest in #1098158460463480842 if you're that concerned about it. You can usually hear people walking around so...

[paper torrent]

best not discuss your desires with discord moderators

[hexed radish]

I shouldnt need to suggest it. This is just a common sense idea and if i dare say everyone in the gaming community that has been playing for 2+ years have caught up that idea atleast once.

[paper torrent]

i like your idea, sounds when you move your camera while sitting in a bush

rustling of leaves and such.

[slate canopy]

I'm just a moderator of the discord, I control nothing in the game. I just play it.

[paper torrent]

ok

[past vortex]

also pointing to the "suggestion" grave yard is like saying buzz off :}

[paper torrent]

lol

reminds me of companies telling you to make an official complaint through their designated department

[past vortex]

but then.... there is no easy way to suggest anything

[hexed radish]

I am so desperate man with game designers nowadays, its literally so frustrating. Broadly speaking they simply can't come up with good stuff, in every game. Thats why triple A games keep failing.

[paper torrent]

rarely do game developers play their own game

[hexed radish]

Amen

[slate canopy]

It's the easiest way to pass it on to the devs. 🤷‍♀️ What more do you want to say?

[past vortex]

ofc you dont play your own game

[slate canopy]

And the devs say they do play so 🤷‍♀️

[paper torrent]

when they do it, it tends to be these quirky ones that have a weird eastern european accent and it's that zany in-depth bubble blaster io gameplay

[past vortex]

yea lol, like ben, ofc they all played a round or two at some time :D

[paper torrent]

idk why that is exactly like that but those are the ones who play their own game

[hexed radish]

I know its all good, just frustrating. I can come up with a whole new role off the top of my head

[paper torrent]

anyone who persistently sounds like they are trying to invalidate whatever complaint you have, do not engage w/ them

[past vortex]

there is no explaination why the score board is still like this except that they dont play any considerable amount of games :D

[paper torrent]

the scoreboard?

[hexed radish]

Every game I play i have concepts of suggestions. I mod(ding) stuff, write word documents on game content

[paper torrent]

i thought you meant the server browser, that thing is some kind of sub-halflife mess

[past vortex]

all of the ui really

[paper torrent]

my opinion, im not so bothered with the UI. its kind of standard at this point, ive seen far worse. it's not so bad that it's obstructive for me

the server browser tho, that thing takes a whole minute while it freezes my PC

the scoreboard and whatnot, just very tiny names and buttons and clicking on someone's name mutes them which is only indicated by a <16px scratch turning red

[real parrot]

Arena break throught have it, its quite curious

[paper torrent]

the number of times i heard someone vc "oh sorry i had you muted by accident"

[slate canopy]

I've heard that 0 🤔 Interesting

[past vortex]

happens a lot ofc

[paper torrent]

i really don't talk to discord mods

[past vortex]

unless you dont try to use the scoreboard much

[hexed radish]

oh cmon, they are just doing their job

[paper torrent]

i gave tarkov a try but it feels like CoD + Rust with extra waiting. one thing i really like is the gun modding

[slate canopy]

I'm not allowed to share my experience and opinion 😦 Sorry, I'll shush.

[past vortex]

since that crap is randomly centered you will want to collapse other squads
then uncollapse at some point
then ofc it happens that you mute by accident

[hexed radish]

awww, look what you have done :( - EyesWide

[paper torrent]

have yall ever talked with ChatGPT

if so, do you know what the word 'hedging' means

[hexed radish]

Yeah accidental muting, also quite frequent bug

[past vortex]

ofc you are allowed

[paper torrent]

i just remembered that lol

'randomly centered' xd

[slate canopy]

Nah, it's fine. I'll watch from afar.

[paper torrent]

anyway, disclaimer time

i don't talk to discord staff members as a strict policy

[past vortex]

wait for the hot takes :}

[paper torrent]

i have been in >60 discord servers and have seen some sht

[real parrot]

Yeah, I don't really care tbh

[paper torrent]

smth magical ab discord staff members they just seem to turn into demons for some reason

[past vortex]

where did the discord mod touch you?

[vestal spear]

tbf mods arent "discord staff"

[paper torrent]

well ackshually

my shoelaces aren't untied these are shoestrings

[past vortex]

yea i would also think of discord employees
but then i have seen servers that call their various permission bearers staff

[paper torrent]

oh yea like that

[slate canopy]

I've only been a mod here for literally a couple weeks? I ain't paid. 🤷‍♀️ Otherwise, I have over 900 hours in the game and love playing it. That's why I'm here lol

[paper torrent]

yes it's like that, lots of servers call them staff members

[past vortex]

oh so you are relatively new, bear :}

who knew

[paper torrent]

i wonder what else there is besides discord

[real parrot]

How I become a mod here? upload an image of my Steam page with played time? 🥸

[paper torrent]

i mean there's fb and all that but it's not exactly a free, open chat thing

i wonder if it's just as messed up over there

[real parrot]

🚜

[gentle lintel]

Polarbear ^

perfectly innocent

[paper torrent]

i'm banned from ~7 discords for trying to discuss nuclear bombs

i don't say hey how are you i just begin talking

it's been months since i used discord

in my experience, servers are one of three things:

1. people only discuss one topic and if you say anything else, it slowly grows silent while you can feel them side-eye you
2. solid beam of chat ab nothing
3. clique of toxic staff worshippers

that's from visiting >60 discord servers and i couldn't find a single one that didn't fall into any of these

[paper torrent]

why i stopped using discord

[wanton stream]

H

[slate canopy]

That's you Drew lol

[past vortex]

you didnt :}

[paper torrent]

if you get off the toilet it means you stopped taking a sht

or you're saying that isn't the case

i came back to see what had changed

[past vortex]

idk you seem to enjoy yourself here

[gentle lintel]

Strong, proud, resilient in the face adversity

[paper torrent]

im not sure what you are saying

[real parrot]

Birds are drones made by the goverment, and Peruvians recharge them

[paper torrent]

i just have yap going to make up for the lack of yap to engage with

[real parrot]

Today I just saw how the actual POV is instead of the character head via admin cam. Just another problem to add to the pile.

[thin comet]

👀

loonies everywhere

[paper torrent]

a lot of people are not aware that if you look down it actually puts the head down along with the hitbox

[slate panther]

Ah sweet a schizo thread

[paper torrent]

very useful when running through wheatfields

i see late gen z gremlins joined the chat

ready to project their lack of understanding

[slate panther]

dont mind me just go on with your business

[gray garden]

i mean. can you blame them

[paper torrent]

all good

anton chigurh