mess-hall

[slate canopy]

Should have tried another spawn, and try to push from there. Sorry you died a lot... but it's bound to happen.

[south flare]

ya i try to go to a little snipe spot but end up getting sniped

[past vortex]

like yesterday, i was subscribed to the loosing team all night :}

switched servers every time, no luck :D

[past vortex]

staying in a spot seldom works

[proper dock]

Did any of Yall Buy any dlc skins?

[slate canopy]

I had a win last night... but comms sucked so much the 2nd game (same server) I just left and played another game.

[past vortex]

no

[south flare]

ya for now im going to play under dogs for now

[past vortex]

are the free dlcs available on console?

[slate canopy]

I have 9 DLCs.

(I paid 0 dollars - 2 free from SteelSeries GG, the rest were free on Steam)

[past vortex]

the only tempting dlc is the one with the greasy hair

for use with a winter face

[south flare]

have fun you guys bye bye

[proper dock]

Some I think

[violet inlet]

Yeah they are one of those bands that legit doesn’t have a bad album

They are very consistent

[cunning cobalt]

hll is bad

[pine ember]

No

[finite berry]

Then why are you here lol

[novel geyser]

what if, you could brace fire the PTRS

[pine ember]

These are the best, those who hate it yet are still here

[analog apex]

here's one

[wide ore]

Dam that is a very intellectual statement

Socratese himself

[lucid shale]

skill issue

[violet inlet]

Alright, new controller I’m finally playing this time

[wind shore]

Good

[thorny acorn]

good luck

[violet inlet]

How do I pick up supplies ? I’m on ps5

[slate canopy]

You can't. Once supplies is down, it's down.

If you're support, you get a new one, but replaces your old when placed down (so it's not like you play 50 supplies all over the map and leave it)

[violet inlet]

I’m just doing practice and there is supplies on the ground

But maybe I can’t Cus I’m rifleman ?

[cunning cobalt]

get a life

[wide ore]

What a comeback!!

[cunning cobalt]

that fits perfectly

nothing more or less. period. message ends.

[boreal thicket]

Yeah? Well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion man.

[cunning cobalt]

then dont tag me for bs

[boreal thicket]

Jesus bro it's a joke, why are you so salty? Chill out and interact with chat in a respectable manner, it's not hard mate

[cunning cobalt]

mine was a joke too. chill out bro

[boreal thicket]

Ok bud

[cunning cobalt]

sure homie

[slate canopy]

No one can pick up supplies. You can only use them up

[wicked tangle]

Are majority players here from states? Or Europe ?

[slate canopy]

I'd say a mix of both.

[wind shore]

I'm from Eastern Europe, most of players here are from Europe , but mostly from Germany

[slate canopy]

But there's plenty of other countries that play.

[wind shore]

Yes

From US, Australia, Asia

[slate canopy]

I don't think it's mostly European. It's a mix of US and European.

[wind shore]

Agree

Here is everybody

recently opened server in Africa

South African server also

I've found more than 15+ servers with ieroglifs , like chineese or japanese

Here are players from whole over the world

[wind shore]

I meant, the biggest count of servers were from Germany, I count, sorry*

[viscid vine]

My country is in the Balkans and Eastern Europe, worst or best combo depending on who you ask

[wind shore]

on console for example only Germans has 5+ or 10+ servers, it's bigger than others

[slate canopy]

Could be just hosted in Germany. Yeah.

[wind shore]

Yes, I know that possible location in Frankfurt , but it's marked as German speaking servers or Austrians, I can count if you want , when i will be playing

and say the exact number

🙂

And on PC i was shocked 1 day, when i've opened it was 15+ Active Asian servers

[wind shore]

i'm bad at maths, sorry!) I can make a big mistakes in count

[slate canopy]

Haha it's all good. I'm not expecting you to know it all.

Nor do I know it all.

[wind shore]

numbers is hell for me, etc, i can make +- 10, for examples count 10 apples like 20 😄

[midnight nacelle]

🍎 or 🍏

[wind shore]

Red

[slate canopy]

Red apples... but Green grapes.

[wind shore]

i've counted red apples

the problem was that they messed with greens, and apples made me a fool, when i've counted them

[worthy charm]

Green apples are weird.

[wind shore]

I'm apples hater, they lie that they are healthy

[wind shore]

just an advertisement

first timed they lied me, i trusted them, no more! That's enough

🍎 🚫

[worthy charm]

Down with Apple industry propaganda!!

[wind shore]

They using us - Apples, just when we eat them, they obey us

roadmap - next week

[slate canopy]

you mean this week. 👀

[wind shore]

Right

[thin lotus]

Fog

🙏

[violet inlet]

Played 2 matches. It’s been awesome

[slate canopy]

Awesome!

[violet inlet]

Last match I had 1 kill 0 deaths but I was mostly just being very cautious staying backup

[slate canopy]

Kills/death isn't the biggest deal, since it's more of a map control game.

[turbid plaza]

How do i post in the recruitment channel

[violet inlet]

Yeah for sure, I was mostly just trying to be useful, and letting people know where enemies are

[cyan saddle]

Have a read through #division-rules, it is explained there

[slim sky]

how do i remove this 60 fps limit>

[slate canopy]

You can't remove it in the main menu.

[slim sky]

yeah just saw haha

any way to filter silvers by EU only or something? cant see a way

[slate canopy]

You can filter by ping to get closest ping to you.

[novel geyser]

just click on where it says ping at the top so it sorts them by ping

pretty sure you can do that
i might just be crazy

[slate canopy]

Yup, you can.

[slim sky]

yh ik just not ideal cause it gives random servers with 2 players

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♀️ I usually sort by players, with community servers the only filter applied.

And as long as it's 150 or less ping, I play on it.

[novel geyser]

you can filter your ping to have a maximum. Generally best to order by player count and filter ping

[slate canopy]

There isn't exactly "European exclusive" servers.

I could play on just about any server, besides I think Brazilian where it's 250+ ping.

[wind shore]

I remember when before server browser , on Asian servers were training some clans or just chill guys

And it was actively , in 1 moment before it

[robust flint]

has it ever been requested to get all the user match details through RCON, such as longest headshot, or longest kill. and/or what unit they're currently playing as, or current role selected

[charred swan]

Wha factions are gon be on Tobruk?

[covert elbow]

British 8th army and the German Africa corps

[charred swan]

Omg I get to see my boys weak kness again 🙏

[livid saffron]

Just so one of the worst team kills in the game tonight

[wind shore]

so silent

night

[cyan saddle]

have you considered

sleeping

[wind shore]

no

[cyan saddle]

you should try it

its free

[slate canopy]

It's the best DLC out there.

[wind shore]

can we get music channel here where everybody will share music

[livid saffron]

We spawned in middle hq as allies. Everyone in the transport truck. We stopped at the shield . Then a team mate pulled knife out and started a stabbing spree. Worst tk I witnessed

[cyan saddle]

wanna play "sleeping" together @wind shore?

[wind shore]

"Music channel"

i don't know

[wind shore]

haha)

[wind shore]

for real, i have no time to sleep, i have a lot of things to do

[cyan saddle]

Your loss

[bold berry]

What does that new cm update mean?

What is that

[slate canopy]

...A map on a road. So a roap mad.

[bold berry]

Oh

[wind shore]

community manager? cm

[slate canopy]

So we'll get the 2025 roadmap this week.

[wind shore]

that's alr

[livid saffron]

Is the new update this week?

[wind shore]

Not really , just the roadmap

Tobruk coming in April

And after next goals throw the roadmap

[livid saffron]

Is the road map an update or announcement

[wind shore]

Announcement 📣

What will be in this year

1738 aye im like hey wsp hello

Hello!

[livid saffron]

They still haven't given us the special game mode assault on brecourt battery a famous 101st Airborne

[covert elbow]

That’s most likely scrapped

[wind shore]

How do I get more cosmetics like helmet colors and coats and stuff

[wind shore]

Would be cool ! Just add patches on current uniforms 82, and 101

[slate canopy]

Free or paid DLCs

[covert elbow]

I’m hoping it turns into an offensive rework and makes it one of the objectives though

[livid saffron]

Bs. They were supposed to give us the Polish map to the famous post office battle

[wind shore]

What turns

[covert elbow]

Yea that’s also probably been scrapped

[wind shore]

Offensive mode is a nice!

Love it ( but when I play not commander )

[wind shore]

Ah

[wind shore]

Danzig was planned for skirmish mode

But it’s point of balance, watched this video about post station, Germans used everything motorised , new armored vehicles, carriers , etc, and Polish were inside the building just with rifles and guns

They had not much , as equipment in post station ( vehicles , tanks ) - Polish , certainly in this battle

[slate canopy]

I think a few unlock with certain levels.

[wind shore]

Another Polish maps could be more balanced then Danzig post station

[slate canopy]

Yup, you can unlock certain outfits at role levels for helmets and outfits. The rest are DLCs

My Rifleman is still level 1 - despite a level 190 account - and a helmet unlocks at 2, 3, and 8. Outfits unock at 5, 6, 7, and 8.

[wind shore]

i have all classes 8-10 LVL

Medic close to 10

Medic was my best class and class for my chilling games, I love Medic!

[slate canopy]

Rifleman 1, Assault 2, Machine gunner 3, Automatic rifleman 4, Sniper 5, Antitank and tank crew/command 6, Medic 7, Support 9, Commander, Officer, Engineer, Spotter level 10.

I mostly play spotter now a days.

[wind shore]

i love to play tank 3 men crew also

for certain maps

[slate canopy]

I have to play with a buddy to tank. looks at maxim 🙂

[wind shore]

yes, i know him, he always tell that he has very trustful friends like you

( i'm joking , he had not tell, but i think so )

[slate canopy]

I'd hope he'd think I'm trustful 🥺

[violet inlet]

Is there a way to see your overall stats ?

[wind shore]

yes

[violet inlet]

How ?

[wind shore]

Max , is a gentleman , for sure

me also, I'm very gentle to women

[slate canopy]

There should be a button to see the team score, then bottom left should have a button to see your personal stas

[violet inlet]

Oh I mean like all time states

Stats

[storm stratus]

How many hours?

[slate canopy]

912

[storm stratus]

Do you know when you started playing this game?

[wind shore]

oh i forgot to sent link

https://www.hllstats.dev/ this?

@storm stratus

[storm stratus]

Hello?

[wind shore]

@violet inlet this link

[wind shore]

sorry, i messed with other guy

[storm stratus]

Ah. Understood.

[slate canopy]

I got it Jan 2022

Like late January

[violet inlet]

Ohh I’m playing psn

[wind shore]

on PSN only on game servers.

they have discord bots or websites with stats

[storm stratus]

I probably play to much 😖😂 i started early Jan 2025. 220+ hours. Level 117 so far. Most classes except 2 level 5-6. And support level 8. Dam it takes ages.

[slate canopy]

I just play the same roles usually 🤷‍♀️

[storm stratus]

I’ll be doing that once i get all classes except sniper and tank crew to level 5. I think i’ll be support main until level 10 after that.

[slate canopy]

I just usually see a team needed a medic, support, AT or Engineer, so I just usually play those vs my low level.

Like I'm medic right now

[wind shore]

i remember how i started

when it wasn't server browser, i came into the same lobby 3-4 times, and had no idea, better than make Teamkill on guy to be kicked

after, 1 year of playing , i joined clan where this guy also was already lvl 260+ 😄 i remember him

i remember first offensives, foy, how perfect it was!!

I still love it

[slate canopy]

I giggle at the first couple screenshots I have.

[wind shore]

i have my first video still!

i think it was first, i can't remember, but it dated to first day

[slate canopy]

I was amused watching my friends load the AT gun... and I happen to catch the ammo floating in the load animation lol

[wind shore]

kickstarter helmet

I started to play with out friends. Now, I'm playing with friends

HLL is the best online game ( should be improved in future , i hope! )

like some new mechanics, mortars or something interesting

[slate canopy]

We'll find out whats (probably) coming this week 🙂

[covert elbow]

Seems fine to me

[wind shore]

Yes, it was fixed last year, less crashes , something were fixed

I know, this week

I was waiting for the roadmap 2025 since the day , when I was born

First word I said in my life it was roadmap

[violet inlet]

Just wrapping up my first day playing this game

Had a blast

[slate canopy]

That's awesome!

[slate canopy]

I just had a blast with medic role. Even got complimented with a "damn medic" when I hopped out a window and over a wall to get to a downed squadlead.

[covert elbow]

So roadmap in a few hours?

[worthy charm]

In a few second🕐

[covert elbow]

Les goooo

Where’s the roadmap William

[desert owl]

lol, the trailer was a map on the road.

[covert elbow]

Yea hehe

[desert owl]

Just now processing it

[analog apex]

So, the roadmap week has started...

[empty steppe]

Has hasn’t it 🫨

I was expecting it at 12:01

[wind shore]

It’s 10 AM

7 AM for Europe

[sick furnace]

Expect it on Sunday 25.99

[analog apex]

25.99? What would that be?

[sick furnace]

Just making a joke about the time

[analog apex]

For that one I would expect Sunday 23:59, I don't rly get the 25,99 😏 .

[sick furnace]

Ok so the joke is that there is no such thing as 25 hours or 99 minutes.

[analog apex]

😐

[worthy charm]

😐

[arctic rampart]

1/3 of the roadmap's just gonna Tobruk

To make up for the delay of the roadmap since it's already 25% in to the year. Then simply write 1/3 of it off with a map that's near completion already 😄

[analog apex]

that sounds familiar 😄 (#2024-roadmap)

[arctic rampart]

I've been playing Arma Reforger like a mad man for the past week. Nearly clocked 60 hours already.
Been an absolute blast

[pine breach]

Who am i supposed to suck off for a 'No-mic. Commander' role?

[covert elbow]

The what now

[arctic rampart]

Just leave out

[covert elbow]

Pretty much. Idk what to even expect from a roadmap map after 1/4 of the year has passed lmao

[analog apex]

no reason to play CMD with no mic

[covert elbow]

It’ll have to be some preeeeetty good stuff on that list to make up for it, which I seriously doubt it has

[pine breach]

It is when noone else takes the task and you know what you're doing

[analog apex]

meh

[arctic rampart]

Hell nah

Rather have the SL's suffer and learn to get supports. It's not ideal obviously, but we keep doing this half-baked crap in order to compensate for something and end up allowing everyone to just play like absolute dogwater

Cause the same thing happens for letting no-mic bozos play all the time, you let people SL w/o mics etc.
Until you have a playerbase that keeps making the same mistakes

You gotta' put your foot down and enforce some basic requirements and if everyone does it, we can purge most of the idiocracy.

[covert elbow]

That’s what I’m saying

I want an ICO update like squad did so we can have a competent playerbase again

[worthy charm]

Didnt many people hate that Update?😅

[covert elbow]

I’m sick of steamrolls and no one talking it’s genuinely unfun and idk why people even play the game at this point

Been playing battlefield a ton and it’s a much better experience

[oak current]

Since nothing has come out this year, the same stuff that would have been there if it came out on january 2nd

[worthy charm]

Havent played Squad for maybe a year now... Not sure how the current state is.

[arctic rampart]

It was a bit over-done at the beginning, making it quite sufferable to play.
But they've kind of toned it down to a very nice level right now. At least imo.

[covert elbow]

Yea because it brought the more hardcore/ realism gameplay that squad was built off of to the forefront and a lot of the players who ignored that part left, thus leaving the playerbase more full of people who actually knew how to play the game making the experience more enjoyable in the end

[arctic rampart]

Squad right now suffers from different aspects which we don't have to worry about since we lack overall content.

[covert elbow]

That’s what I’ve heard from a few squad players

[analog apex]

about that mic vs squad members topic... if they won't give us squad management while alive this year (AKA kicking squad members even outside the deployment screen), I will be quite annoyed.

Especially tankers have a problem - somebody joins their squad when they are already on the line so the tank commander can't simply redeploy to get to deployment screen to kick the mic-less guy.

[arctic rampart]

YES!!!

[covert elbow]

That’s the sad part lmao. And you know their slapping Tobruk on there as well

[arctic rampart]

Let's make a riot if it's not in the roadmap

[covert elbow]

Dude it’s so baffling how such a basic system is in game why do I have to redeploy to do basic squad management

[oak current]

since roadmap is prior to tobruk - of course tobruk is on there

[covert elbow]

People who say this game wasn’t poorly made do not understand this game haha

[analog apex]

just shows the true level of dev incompetence

[arctic rampart]

Also upon kicking it should just give riflemannn!!! How is this not a thing....

[covert elbow]

Yes but that’s not the point

[covert elbow]

Like while they’re alive?

[oak current]

again - tobruk would be on there if roadmap was released in january or this week.

[analog apex]

it would be enough if the kicked squad members wouldn't be blocking the role they had

[arctic rampart]

Yeah. Force them to receive rifleman role and kit, thus freeing it up properly

[analog apex]

let them keep it... till they die
but not to block the class

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, but that's exactly how SQUAD does it. They just force the person a different kit. Probably use the same code they use to swap roles on ammo boxes in the game

[covert elbow]

Yes but them adding Tobruk on the roadmap means nothing since we already know it’s going to be released. It’d honestly be better to just not have Tobruk on it and keep the roadmap for other planned stuff down the line

[arctic rampart]

That can be exploited.

[analog apex]

yes, but since just till one dies, not so much

[arctic rampart]

Have dead people rotate in your squad, spawn as AT, kick them out, they keep the kit

[covert elbow]

I mean I don’t see how that’s work tbh. Just let them keep the lot until they die and then they have to join another squad to deploy again. No need to lock them to rifleman

[analog apex]

as can be exploited if I happen for my Spotter to get disconnected and some newcomer Spotter kicks me out of squad making me rifleman instantly, losing my sniper rifle...

actually griefed, not exploited

[covert elbow]

I mean good point but like… who the hell is going to do that lmao

I can only see the sweatiest of clans doing that

[arctic rampart]

Everyone ever who plays comp

[covert elbow]

God I hate comp haha

[arctic rampart]

Sheeet, I'd even do that with my own boys in a squad in a pub game

It's like a makeshift mortar

[covert elbow]

Stop for a second in a tank and all of a sudden 8 rockets get launched at you

But you can already do that right now

[arctic rampart]

Imagine being germany attacking AA battery on SMDM. Just go sit 2-3 squares away and non-stop launch rockets at the point till you splash a garry

[covert elbow]

Make a squad, someone takes AT, leave squad, repeat over and over until you have 49 AT’s

[arctic rampart]

Bonus points if you use a support for rocket ammo

[analog apex]

only as long as the peeps have a garrison right where they need it on the very spot

[arctic rampart]

That's exactly why they force the "recruit" kit in squad. So the role gets freed up. Since in that game some of the roles/kits are shared not only within the squad, but the entire team

[arctic rampart]

Just an OP

[analog apex]

what OP? Currently you have to create another squad in order for the blocked class to be available from the kicked squad member. So... no Outpost

[covert elbow]

Side note. Best solution for AT is to make it a limited role team wide and once those slots are taken on the team that’s it

[arctic rampart]

Currently yeah, but I mean if I were to be able to kick a person from the squad, it would unlock the role, but the alive person would keep the kit

Then I could exploit it by having coordinated people join my squad, spawn on OP and launch rockets non-stop

[analog apex]

true, but still just for 1 life

[arctic rampart]

Let's say I have all 5 friends with me for a full squad of 6.
We use an OP, so spawn timer's 20 seconds and we play on Circle or something with !r for 10 sec redeploys instead of 20.
2 rockets per person + 2 more from supply box which holds enough for 5 people (so all 5 rocket shooters).

4x5 rockets in the span of like.. 2 minutes. Since I could spawn the 2nd person in the next spawn wave following the first, since I simply would need to kick the first out and nothing else.

[analog apex]

I would see other ways to fight the spam

cooldowns for kicking for example (while having some initial free) or some other stuff

and make no more than 2 players to have AT class (1 for the kicked player, 1 for the active squad member) so they won't be able to do it for all the members

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, but that's harder then forcing a role for people that are alive, but not in a squad

Cause I get the pov of someone not proper taking over the squad and essentially disbanding it, but it's not that big of an issue. SQUADS ran with such system since it launched and it's pretty normal.

But in any case the QoL of squad management whilst alive NEEDS to be added in 2025, if it ain't, then they got no clue what we need. Once again...

[analog apex]

why the F am I excited like if the roadmap was to come today? xD

not excited as excited but... you know what I mean heh

I honestly would place a bet that squad management while alive, won't be on it.

[arctic rampart]

This is the moment for Chum to do his usual repost of what's gonna be in the roadmap

[analog apex]

An idea to solve it - dynamic squad joining (being able to join/leave a squad while alive).

1. Let's say a squad member takes AT kit.
2. He gets kicked while alive.
   3) He will get a prompt that he needs to join some existing squad with free AT class otherwise he will permanently lose it in 30 seconds. In addition to that, he would be forced to rifleman loadout but only for as long as he wouldn't join some squad with AT free.
   4a) Once joined a squad, he may start using the AT equipment again, without the need for redeployment (and therefore without losing the position he got to).
   4b) If not joined any squad within 30s, he becomes the rifleman for the rest of his current life.

[worthy charm]

Your chum summining didnt work. Do you have enough Arena badges to command him?

[arctic rampart]

Arena badges?

[analog apex]

isn't Chum an American? he's probably sleeping. Usually he is here in the EU afternoon. Mornings jsut very sometimes.

[arctic rampart]

I can still exploit. Just not with 1 squad, but with 2.

[analog apex]

how

a kicked player would not be able to use the AT stuff

[analog apex]

also easily solvable another issue - if a squad loses an SL, the same conditions could apply

there would be no way to abuse at all

one would have to switch to some other squad with the class free or take the SL role (still without redeployment requirement) to save the others from losing the classes

[arctic rampart]

Person A - Makes squad Able
Person B - Makes squad Baker
Person C - AT test subject #1
Person D - At test subject #2

Person C joins Able, takes AT, spawns on OP.
Person A kicks Person C from Able squad upon spawning.
Person C gets a prompt that "YOU MUST JOIN A SQUAD!!!!", gets frozen in-place with a unremovable pop-up menu or something.
Person C picks Baker squad, which doesn't have AT occupied.
Person C launches rockets as usual, re-arms from supply box, launches more rockets.
Whilst Person C is alive, Person D joins Able, picks the free AT kit, starts spawning in.
Person C gets kicked by Person B (Baker SL).
etc. etc.

[worthy charm]

From pokemon? Did I use the wrong term?

[arctic rampart]

I have no clue, never played pokemon. I know like 3-5 of them and that's about it.

[worthy charm]

OHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[analog apex]

that' pretty complicated

[arctic rampart]

Written out it is, in-game, not so much.

[worthy charm]

Big uff

[arctic rampart]

I could still launch a self-made katyusha just with a little bit of coordination.
And it's also infinitely scaling depending on how many people I have on reserve to take the AT kit.

[analog apex]

whatever is there, there can be always an easy logic to prevent from any exploits

it's just matter of looking

[arctic rampart]

Yeah. Or just force rifleman upon them the second they get booted from the squad.
They ain't taking down tanks no-more, but at least they can keep their spot and do whatever further down the line with it

I bet Offworld Industries planned it out plenty before landing on a final result

[analog apex]

isn't that how I said it in my example?

[arctic rampart]

No, you said you get to keep the role if you join directly into another squad within 30 seconds of getting booted

[analog apex]

keep the role, but not be able to use the specialist equipment for the duration of those 30s

[arctic rampart]

Keep the kit, keep the spot, no redeploy required

Then wtf is the point of keeping the role

That's even more logic and programming to do

[analog apex]

because one has a chance to join some other squad

[arctic rampart]

It's way more work to make this

[analog apex]

only on paper

[arctic rampart]

in programming as well

[analog apex]

not rly

just a few IFs / WHILEs

[arctic rampart]

Now you need timers, restrictions on items. Then you need to somehow classify which items are specialist items

And if they can't restrict commanders doing plane call ins on Elsenborn whilst it's snowing (aka turning on/off a button), what's the chance they can disable rocket launchers whilst alive :DDDDD

[analog apex]

if it was apart of the game out of the box, you wouldn't even think about it

just now

[analog apex]

true 😄

but by this way of thinking we would in the end realise they are not competent to do anything at all - we could always go further and further

[arctic rampart]

Ofc, but planning it out, the flow chart would be multiple nodes more complicated then just issuing a kit with an existing function.
Chances are within the spawn logic, there's already a function that issues the base kit to the soldier. Same function could be re-used within the squad-kick logic.
Probably requires some integer for the class number and that's it. Done deal

[analog apex]

yep, but you have to look at it also from the angle of exploitable from the perspoective when the unlimited AT exploit is not the goal and shouldn't punish a player who gets kicked jsut because some random guy takes SL and kicks everybody out of the squad

it needs to be bulletproof from all the angles, not just one

[arctic rampart]

If it's a full squad in an already on-going game. Chances are the full 5 kicked people ain't gonna find squads anyways, so in any case will be forced on the rifleman role

[analog apex]

that depends, there is always chance for that

[arctic rampart]

That's why I'm saying. The thing's already implomented in squad and works like a charm.

[analog apex]

not all the squads are full all the time and you are forgetting that one could create squad even while alive and save other ex-members from losing their classes

anyway, this is so theoretical... none of it will ever see the light of the world... nor your stuff, nor my stuff 😄

nor anybody else's stuff for that matter as Team17 doesn't care about us or HLL's problems

the only thing we will likely ever see is more DLCs, more maps (like 2 per year xD ) and more broken stuff each update

[arctic rampart]

Very well said, also kind of sad 😦

[real parrot]

I would like Team17 to develop Skyrim instead of HLL

[analog apex]

yep, a hard face of reality 😭

[pine breach]

I have a feeling you haven't seen a good no-mic command yet

[arctic rampart]

Don't I have like double the playtime?

[pine breach]

Not sure and I don't really care about playtime. I've seen rank 20 players do a better job than rank 300 players

[arctic rampart]

It's like we're having this discussion in here every other day about mics.

So again. yes you can do it w/o a mic, yes it's been done before, is it good - no.
And rank alone is irrelevant because bob bozos

So unless you're making the leftover squad and tell the guys that join it, that it's the case, same goes for SL'ing.
No, you shouldn't play w/o comms, so wack off, play properly and we're gonna improve the overall communication level of the entire playerbase if everyone stops being a wank3r

[real parrot]

There is no such thing as a good comand without mic

[arctic rampart]

There is. Doesn't change the fact that it's a sub-par playstyle with downsides that also degrades the gameplay for everyone involved

[real parrot]

No mic=kicked out of the servers where I like to play

[analog apex]

I wish there was a mic-requirement (optional) check when joining a squad and let the man pass only if the game registers some actual voice from his mic.

[real parrot]

When I'm SL if I let someone in, I greet him, if he doesn't answer me I kick him.

[analog apex]

only as long as you are dead & on the deployment screen at that time

[real parrot]

Yeah

[analog apex]

mic requirement auto check would do this real time and automatically no need to ask about the basics

[pine breach]

Honestly, I think non-mic and with mic. are both fine. If you're using a mic you're relying on squadleaders to pass down orders. (Which 3/10 times doesn't happen, forcing a lost match).

If you continuously type in chat, where everyone can read commands, there's a better chance that everyone, regardless of their squadleader, follows up on instructions

[real parrot]

It would be neat, we won't see it though.

[analog apex]

yep

[pine breach]

Plus, as a non-mic command, I always follow through on requests from squadleaders, I try to setup an easy strat as the start of the game so we can steamroll the opponent

[real parrot]

Mic is a minimum requirement in this game

[pine breach]

It's not. To you it is, probably.

[analog apex]

yeah it's not - and that's why the random matches are looking like a sh?tshow most of the times, we "thank" the mic-less people to that usually

[real parrot]

To us (Our servers), it is to play SL or commander

[pine breach]

I know a good solution. Text-to-speech commands for commander.

[analog apex]

takes a lot of time to write something, comparing to direct voice - a lot of wasted time and one may get killed while doing it too. But with mic, you can both talk and fight/move.

[real parrot]

Loquendo commander 🗿

Mic will always be better than no mic

[analog apex]

☝️

[pine breach]

I haven't had any issues not using my mic to command. Except for players being butthurt to me for not using one. Regardless if we won. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[analog apex]

victory doesn't matter, the responses do

if CMD doesn't respond in voice, it is naturally annoying

[real parrot]

Good for you, not happening where I play anyways

[pine breach]

I always respond in chat, takes less than a second to press K and read it

[analog apex]

mic-less CMD forces others to read his stuff and look at the text chat instead of watching the enemy

it is not just about YOU which you seem to forget about

[pine breach]

I see we've finalized the discussion since we're running in circles. Have a good one.

[analog apex]

not rly, feels liek you are now out of arguments

micLess CMD forces others to do something that a CMD with a mic, doesn't, something that may cost a life due visual distraction to the text chat

[pine breach]

No, it's because you're trying to gaslight me. Play on PBS sometime and take a good look at how fluent the match goes when I take command.

[arctic rampart]

You're just supporting playing the game incorrectly.
Whilst both methods can be done, it is fact that a mic-less commander is not on par with a miced one.

Plus, chances are if you have time to sit around and type out whole strategies, you're underperforming as a commander.

[real parrot]

I encourage every SL to lock squad and kick out mic less people so they can't play on any squad

[pine breach]

No, I'm supporting the game being played any way anyone likes.

[analog apex]

IS THIS TRUE OR NOT

[real parrot]

I'd like to hack the game, should I be able to do it then?

[pine breach]

Go ahead, it's your problem if you get banned for it.

[real parrot]

Same with no mics

[analog apex]

so go ahead and be micless CMD, but expect to be banned for it too on servers that ask for it

[pine breach]

So you think people should get banned for not using a mic?

[analog apex]

if it is in their server rules, of course yes

[real parrot]

Precisely

[pine breach]

That's fine, if it's a server's specific rules they can do whatever they want. I won't play on those servers anyways.

[real parrot]

Perfect then

[analog apex]

great, at least I won't see another mic-less CMD

[pine breach]

I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[real parrot]

Imagine a TC without mic

[analog apex]

tank crews rely solely on the voice communication

another point taken from the mic-less advocates

not possible to play a tank and expect to survive without a mic, communicating tank crews always last much longer than the micless ones - in general

[real parrot]

There is literally no way you can play well tank without mic

[arctic rampart]

Only exception to that rule is solo recon tank. But for a general statement, 100% accurate

[analog apex]

and a general statement is that even a recon tank is even more effective when crewed, compared to solo

[arctic rampart]

Yup

[analog apex]

firing and moving at a time is a great weapon

[arctic rampart]

But firing on the move is a even greater weapon

[analog apex]

that's what I meant...

[arctic rampart]

Oh yeah, well. We're deffo on the same page

Also, if we're playing CS2 and one teammate decides not to do callouts. I ain't gonna support them "playing the way they like"
Their actions directly impact me and my other teammates. It's stupid to do nor' should it be done here on the same principle

[analog apex]

and back to a CMD - by the time the mic-less CMD writes me a warning message a tank is rolling my way, the tank may very well already spot me by the time he writes it and we get a chance to read it to begin with

[arctic rampart]

And if the SL's don't trickle the info down chain, that's their fault and their lack of skill

[analog apex]

and yet there are obviously still people who think there is no problem with not using the mic even as CMD

CoD-like mindset players

[arctic rampart]

And people also think they shouldn't mark where they're shooting arty 😭

[analog apex]

about that - we should have a different arty marker that would be visible just for our squad to show where the arty is landing

because when we make one today, it may confuse our arty to think we request arty support there or think that ours is more accurate than the original arty guy's one

[past veldt]

'artillery is falling on observe mark'

[analog apex]

yeah, but with a mark it would be more self-telling

[past veldt]

Takes away some of the vocal communication

[analog apex]

not even a new mark needed, just an option if we want the marker to be visible just for our squad, or for all the SLs

[analog apex]

I would say it in voice anyway, but it would be nice to have and no need to repeat in the future.

[worthy charm]

Maybe we get a arty rework on the roadmap.🥹

We wouldnt need a new marker with that.

[analog apex]

like... arty removal, that would be a rework I would love to see... and get the mortars instead

[past veldt]

Honestly this is a terrible idea.

We'd have loads of

'I have marked X thing'

'but I can't see your mark'

'well it is there'

'you need to make it visible to SLs'

[analog apex]

one needs to know what setting he used, right? if he doesn't, not our problem...

[past veldt]

We already suffer enough with having a request supplies for your squad only, and a call in supplies for SLs/Cmd

[past veldt]

No, the average HLL player is pretty dumb

[analog apex]

which is why it would work the same as today by default

so what's your problem?

[past veldt]

My problem is I don't think this game needs mechanics which are any more complex

[analog apex]

we would be able to just set the visibility manually

[analog apex]

complex? 😄

good one 😄

[arctic rampart]

I do the "arty on observe, don't go there" callouts.

But a proper danger marker would be good

[past veldt]

You were talking to a guy justifying playing commander without a microphone like 20 minutes ago

[arctic rampart]

The issue with multiple (2+) tanks on the map is also still here.

[past veldt]

And he didn't understand why it might not be ideal or detract from the fun

[analog apex]

there is no black and white - one has to use both

[arctic rampart]

Yep

[past veldt]

And you think having options for players isn't complex?

The moment you give them an option, they will pick the wrong one

[analog apex]

they don't need to use it if they won't want to!

[past veldt]

They will use it, and not realise

You don't understand how people work, clearly.

[analog apex]

so you are telling me if they will see a text that the mark will be visible just to their squad members, they will think all will see it in the team?

[past veldt]

Yes

[analog apex]

we shouldn't adjust the game to keep the dumbest players catered, we would end up in CoD fast that way, with no extra features whatsoever

[past veldt]

Because request supplies already has text while tells them only their squad will see it, yet every public game I play I see people put it down and expect the commander to see it

[past veldt]

Not what I am saying at all, but go off

[analog apex]

because they do not choose the option manually today - if we were able to, one of those supply markers would get redundant and would have to get removed

naturally

[past veldt]

Okay, sure

[analog apex]

not directly, but it inevitably still leads that way with the same final effect

it's like... remove halftracks because randoms are getting them... instead of implementing a logic or feature for CMD to lock it

it is the very same way of thinking

[past veldt]

Not the same at all

[analog apex]

whatever you say 😃

[past veldt]

You just randomly extrapolate the idea into whatever you want it to go to

Except I have an actual in game example of how players don't understand markers, and you have some fictional ideas of things that haven't happened

[analog apex]

one doesn't need an evidence for dumb players in a game xD

that's however not the part of the playerbase the game should be developing features for
every game has dumb players - decide to cater those and the quality of the game's mechanics/features will go down a great deal, because the devs won't even plan for some more elaborate ones

[worthy charm]

Pacific when?

[oak current]

bad willes, shoo 🧹

[arctic rampart]

Stop stealing my bit

[analog apex]

The Old ⛰️ strikes again

[worthy charm]

My Archenemy - the broom

[oak current]

both a tool and a weapon

[worthy charm]

Never

[novel geyser]

burma when

[analog apex]

any time, play Hidden and Dangerous 2 lol

[novel geyser]

interesting, never actually heard of hidden and dangerous

looking into it...

[analog apex]

one of my 1st WWII games

it was a game great for the multiplayer and SP

2003, pretty old now

[novel geyser]

not on gog, shame

[analog apex]

we were able to choose uniforms and weapons/equipment as much as weight capacity allowed

[novel geyser]

oh it is on steam tho

[analog apex]

in some aspects it was even better than current modern HLL 😄

[real parrot]

Not that hard tho

[analog apex]

seems it is... for the current HLL devs

sadly

it was my 1st WWII game that had pretty open large (on that time) maps

[real parrot]

Planetside 2 was my first big map game

[analog apex]

not WWII I assume though

here there were also controllable vehicles, as trucks, tanks, halftrack

[novel geyser]

it looks kinda good, 2 quid on steam

[real parrot]

Nah, futuristic setting

Planetside 2 is still open I think, not that old, like 12 years or so

It got tanks, APC, light tanks, MBT, fighters, air transport, boats, bombers, Mechas and many

[analog apex]

shame H&D2 is dead now

like... fully dead dead, when it comes to the multiplayer side

[worthy charm]

The game looked nice, but not as new player friendly as it could be.

At the end its a bigger battlefield, with clans being very important.

[real parrot]

Like those guys that used to mass like 25 fighters and fly like bird migrations

[oak current]

Heroes & Denerals?

[analog apex]

Hidden and Dangerous 2

[oak current]

AAAAAAH

[analog apex]

Denerals 😂

[novel geyser]

indoor voices Altberg... indoor voices

[oak current]

I'm a very loud person, which is why I lower my mic overall a lot

[crystal girder]

When will the Tobruk Altbergo Ristorante be open for business

[oak current]

Aaaah a fine restaurant - sadly, kitchen is closed due to being an active hardcap with some of the most of fun urban combat possible

crunch infantry combat, without any weird tank he shells hitting one..mostly - good stuff

[royal rivet]

So there's no way to report cheaters on official server? i see T17 official guide we can only report via steam profile.

[analog apex]

nope

the official servers are not moderated by anybody

[royal rivet]

I mean we got easy anti-cheat, at least we can report like any other game but oh well..

[analog apex]

if you want to have a much higher chance to get a cheater-less experience, I suggest to avoid the official servers and stick with the community-hosted ones

one can also reach server mods/admins on the community-hosted servers' discords to get justice

unlike with the official servers

but naturally, some evidence is always needed in any case

[covert elbow]

So I guess no roadmap today

[echo temple]

Is there a particular server where I can find english speakers, because every server I join is dead silent

[past vortex]

play only on community servers

[pine ember]

These were released either on Tuesday or Thursday in the past, Wednesday is also possible

[echo temple]

what?

[past vortex]

community servers

[worthy charm]

There are official servers rented by T17 and community servers which are paid by Clan. People on the community servers talk way more often and those server are moderated by admins.

So they are better to play on, but um sure you already know that.😅

[novel geyser]

Oh boy this tutorial is brutal haha
No saves at all you fail any of the tasks its you gotta do it aaalll over again

I got to the very last bit where you command the squad and one of them jumped ontop of the barbed wire and got killed lmao

[analog apex]

yeah well, AI wasn't that smart in the game 😄

in tutorial, it is better to lead them through the barbed wire one by one and not all at a time

[thin lotus]

Remove Commanders ability to place garries

Remove arty, make it a commander call in

[lucid tusk]

Remove arty, Remove medic, more fog

[past vortex]

fog at night

[wind shore]

Keep medic

[pine ember]

Remove everything

But especially Medic and DLCs please

[thin lotus]

Remove recons ability to place garries

[wind shore]

Keep medic

[past vortex]

more beach maps with fog but at night

[wind shore]

On skirmish

[pine ember]

Remove medic, assault and automatic rifleman

[past vortex]

noooooooooooooo

[pine ember]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssss

[past vortex]

the only 2 things germany is better

[lucid tusk]

Dynamic sandstorm on foy when?

[pine ember]

The loadouts could be given to other classes as well

[past vortex]

US got quite the short end....

[pine ember]

In what?

[past vortex]

assault, support

[pine ember]

Remove M1 please

[past vortex]

the darn grease gun basically

[pine ember]

US assault is only good for grenades

[past vortex]

US has basically one less satchel loadout :{

[pine ember]

Most of their kits are just worse, the only benefit is that you get the Garant

[past vortex]

and less explosive ammo

[cosmic pilot]

I just want my frog skin back

[lucid tusk]

What happened with it?

[cosmic pilot]

Drew 😒

[pine ember]

They dont need it

[past vortex]

wut

cant have enough explosives

[pine ember]

They dont need it

[lucid tusk]

What did that cooky canuck do this time?

[pine ember]

They have the M1

[cosmic pilot]

I can't go into details

[lucid tusk]

So cryptic

[past vortex]

he took hyrums frogsuite

its like a fursuite but with frogs

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-meshi-blue-good-afternoon-gif-12151260415384758802

[lucid tusk]

Also roadmap this week, who's ready for disappointment?

[pine ember]

Meeeee

[cyan saddle]

With that mindset you're just looking to be disappointed

🫠

[pine ember]

HLL will get max 3 new maps and then they will stop the support

[gentle lintel]

they might announce canadians

[lucid tusk]

It's a trick, always set your expectations to the absolute bottom of the barrel so you can always be pleasantly surprised

[pine ember]

Cool

But where Pacific?

[gentle lintel]

canadians in pacific

[thin lotus]

I want Japanese in Normandy

[pine ember]

Attu or what its called?

[lucid tusk]

I think you mean "Allies"

[pine ember]

Can we please get a Wilhelm Winter outfit for the Germans?

[thin lotus]

max 1 other map this year

[lucid tusk]

Not even, tobruk has been downsized to a new 6 vs 6 game mode, support ending after that

[thin lotus]

an announcement to ending development would honestly be hilarious

[pine ember]

Yes, it indeed would

[lucid tusk]

Ever notice how all these games that announce long term plans never actually do the long term plans? I think Halo is the worst offender

[real parrot]

When Bob semple tank

I'm already looking for a game to move to, I have the eye on a game that should be released this year, Light no fire

[thin lotus]

It's the same story with any sort of technical 'breakthough' in a dev teams work pipeline that'd allow them to then output work faster as a result.
Nothing ever speeds up, but it always slows down

[violet inlet]

Hey does anyone know any good streamers I can follow? Console player ?

[worthy charm]

I really dont know any Console streamers, if youre interested in some good content anyway here is a link.😉
https://www.twitch.tv/dasaltberg

-# Malicious laughter that quickly disappears

[violet inlet]

I’ll probably check it out, I’m looking for console streamers to learn because I think the gameplay is different

[wind shore]

Das Auto

[worthy charm]

Technischen Überwachungsverein

Where I need to go again soon...

[shell shoal]

I have a question why does Hell Let Loose have frequent fps drops on console?

[past vortex]

because the console cpus are underpowered for the game, its just that badly optimized

[past vortex]

i thought you are german

[worthy charm]

I am and I need to get my car approved by the TÜV again in the sommer.

Im so happy spending 150€ on this.😃

[past vortex]

und da gehst du zu die technischeN überwachungsverein

they made me get a new bumper for a smol crack :{

[worthy charm]

Wäre es nicht "dem" technischen Überwachungsverein? Ey, ich habs extra nochmal nachgeschaut ob ich es richtig geschrieben hab...
Oder bin ich wieder zu dumm um das zu verstehen?🥲

[gentle lintel]

je ne sais pas

[past vortex]

*allemand

[cyan saddle]

je suis désolé

[dusty thunder]

just wanna clear something up, does arty or bombing runs destroy garrisons? both? neither? one or the other? thanks in advance

[worthy charm]

They both cant destroy garrisions. They patched that out years ago.

[dusty thunder]

ok, also whats your opinion about garrison directly on the point

[worthy charm]

Thats the worst kind of spawnpoint, because the second they are in the point its lost.

[dusty thunder]

thank you! ive been trying to tell command/ other squad leads about that

[worthy charm]

You should have like 2 or 3 defensive spawns outside the hardcap.

[worthy charm]

WAIT!!! Im an idiot, bombing runs can destroy garrisions!

My tanker brain was stuck there for a second

sry😅

Either way its still bad to have a garrision on point because you can kill the spawn + people defending with one run

[dusty thunder]

okay! cool thats what i heard i just didnt know if both arty and bomb runs could, or what but now i have a clear answer

yeah thats what i was thinking too

[slate canopy]

You shouldn't but sometimes the points are tough and you need to.

[worthy charm]

Pub games are diffrent anyway😅

You are happy to even have a garrision not matter where

[slate canopy]

My medic game last night, they had garrisons on point... But if they didn't it would be like the middle of a field. Not so great lol

[dusty thunder]

sure, its situational but if there are easily defendable points just outside the point then i think its more ideal to have the garrison off point. if there is no cover elsewhere then sure, put it on the point. its situational is all

[analog apex]

always depends on the strongpoint location and amount of cover around it

and sometimes when the enemy is pushing hard and got other garries, building it inside as the last resort is always better than to try to recapture the lost area and only MAYBE re-build the lost garri there

[dusty thunder]

yeah these are great scenarios for that, but often i see the first defensive garrison is placed directly on point when imo there are better options

[analog apex]

but I usually build a garri inside the point too if it allows me to build other garries on the flanks outside the open ground

so the rest of the potential garri network locations are influencing this too

[worthy charm]

Garrisons and OP in houses on the roadmap?🥹

[analog apex]

I hate when people are not thinking ahead and build a garri that may be good for the strongpoint, but not good for further future advance as the 1 garri blocks other spots on the red-blue line

[echo karma]

How do you get vip on an official server? Or is that just a ui bug?

[analog apex]

I doubt it... it feels random atm, and I guess it will stay that way 🥶

[analog apex]

you can't get one for those

at least as far as I know. Who would be assigning them away anyway? There are no mods/admins on those servers.

[echo karma]

I see vip in official servers on the server list lol

[worthy charm]

Can Ben give us VIP for official servers?😆

[analog apex]

hmm... it would fit into his job description maybe

but I doubt it

and the question is, who would be getting the VIPs and for what

[fluid pawn]

Unfortunately out of my remit lads

[past vortex]

#1347220000464965733 winner. 3 hours of vip

[analog apex]

"hours" 😄

that got me xD

[past vortex]

:}

[lucid tusk]

Then seize control, hostile takeover

[fluid pawn]

me once I get into power

[gentle lintel]

fun fact: those stickers came from a video on how american soldiers should act in occupied Europe post ww2

[analog apex]

is that Trump in the background? 😄

[gentle lintel]

WOAH POLITICS

kidding

[analog apex]

oh, then it's Trump's father or grandfather xD

[proper dock]

Did and of Yall Buy and dlcs

[wind shore]

I bought them

DLC - superior

[cosmic pilot]

English, do you speak it?

[proper dock]

Autocorrection Messed me up

[wind shore]

Yes

[proper dock]

Some are pretty nice

[echo karma]

Wierd too. I thought maybe devs but why would they be playing on on a US east server?

[past vortex]

well @fluid pawn didnt deny using vip, he just said he cant give it out

[wind shore]

We already have it in Hell let Loose

[past vortex]

you can even have winter winters on winters landing

[worthy charm]

So after the roadmap we can start asking for VIP?😂

[wind shore]

i never cares about VIP ,just join

maybe on seeding, accidentally I can get it

[gentle lintel]

Everyone is vip in my eyes ♥️

[wind shore]

can i post worms here

🪱

[fluid pawn]

Oh no... The new roadmap request is here 😭😂

[fluid pawn]

Great game 🪱

[wind shore]

My childhood game!

I didn't know when I was playing Worms on old Sony Ericson , that it would be developers of the game, which I will play - HLL

Couldn't imagine something related

[finite berry]

My childhood game was Pushy Island lol

[wind shore]

Didn’t expected to play the game from the same developers , after 16 years

It was game on my phone and on social media platform , as arcade

Mine was COD, GTA , before it

[gentle lintel]

Ben can you make holy grenades auto-refreshing thanks

[covert elbow]

Can I get my shoulder fired MG42 please ben?

[gentle lintel]

Ben pls

[wind shore]

German fallschirmjäger uniform spotted in fan made trailer

1:30 min

maybe

[livid saffron]

werent we supposed to get a roadmap update today?

[cyan saddle]

this week

[wind shore]

can I share leaks of roadmap here?

I have some leaks and want to share them, if it’s ok I will say them

||Roadmap coming this week||

[thorny acorn]

crazy mrkedo leaks

[cunning cobalt]

HLL 2 when

[river rover]

2030™

[cunning cobalt]

even if devs start making it today they wont be able to release it 2030 lmao

[livid saffron]

hope so

[real parrot]

Whe get GTA 6 before roadmap

[empty steppe]

Ripped German moment

[covert elbow]

You mean average German solider moment

[empty steppe]

Oh yes ofc 😂

I wonder how prevalent firing a mg-42 or 34 was from the shoulder, some soldiers must have done it

In a short bursts it would probably be effective

[covert elbow]

Not really

Pretty weighty weapon, not a good way to actually hold the weapon, high rate of fire, and usually fired from a belt would have made it hard

Could it be done? Absolutely

Would it be anywhere near effective and straight shooting? Absolutely not

[empty steppe]

I’ve seen a video of a guy doing it with a mg3, looked pretty strenuous 😂

[covert elbow]

Yea and that’s the modern version lmao

[empty steppe]

I remember there’s like one photo from ww2 of someone doing it but it looks staged

[covert elbow]

It absolutely was

[empty steppe]

He’s only got a small belt on it

[covert elbow]

I’m fairly certain I know what your talking about and I think it was actually a rennactor

But could have also been a staged of the era photo

[empty steppe]

Lemme send it in the ww2 chat

[covert elbow]

Tbh I would love if they added the belt MG42 with 250 rounds but just balance it out to where the MG42 with the drum mag can hip fire while the belt can’t

Pretty simple and easy way to balance the weapons

[empty steppe]

Yeah, they really need to fix that drum and make it actually what it was

[covert elbow]

Just sucks that it would make that version useless though

Like even if they went with my idea

[empty steppe]

Ooooor, they could make the 50 round fire from the shoulder, and the 250 from the hip 😂🤣

[covert elbow]

…..

Please say your joking

[empty steppe]

I’m joking lol

[covert elbow]

Okay haha

[empty steppe]

Dp-28 should get it though

That thing is kinda useless sometimes compared to the mg-42 😅

[covert elbow]

I mean easy solution is to just add barrel changing

[thorny acorn]

add the belt fed dp 28

conversion

[thin lotus]

ADS automatic gun capable of oneshotting up to 150m?
how about no

[covert elbow]

Truuuuuuue

[wind shore]

We need Granatwerfers

[covert elbow]

Plus the DP already has way to tight hipfire

[thorny acorn]

nevermind thats dp-46, its done after ww2

[empty steppe]

That didn’t exist until 1946

[covert elbow]

If you want to balance it against the MG42 make it so only the drum mag version of the MG42 can hipfire and add barrel changing to the game

[thorny acorn]

i just corrected myself lol

[covert elbow]

Bing bang boom done and done

[wind shore]

Add HMG Maxims

[covert elbow]

Wait you weren’t joking?

[empty steppe]

Oh haha sry 🤣

Idk why they didn’t make that until after the war

[thorny acorn]

no, it would balance i slightly, it would be just like dp28 but more ammo

[empty steppe]

It’s in rs2

[wind shore]

DP is more accurate than MG 42 , it’s balanced

It has little magazine , but it’s ok

We need just mortars

Small deployable mortars

[empty steppe]

Well if it recoils badly enough like real life

[thorny acorn]

ill stand Infront of the sound cannon again just so we don't get Pacific

[thorny acorn]

its hardly gonna happen

[wind shore]

Why?

[covert elbow]

Oh god no don’t do that

[wind shore]

They could replace 1 recon squad

[thin lotus]

Recoil in HLL doesn't matter because you're always better off not spraying given how accurate and overly high damage each round is

[wind shore]

With 2 men mortar crew

[thorny acorn]

its not that, its hard to code, they need to add the projectile and everything, it needs to be aware of the buildings around it, it's hard

[covert elbow]

It would need to be its own squad so it wouldn’t replace recon. Altough the reducing recon squads to 1 would be really nice

[thorny acorn]

still waiting for the Coenders smg

[wind shore]

Yes, own squad. But why replace - cause will be less people on the battlefield

Just 1 recon and 1 mortar crew - it’s perfect for balance

And another job for recon

[empty steppe]

That is quite true but definitely Varys between weapons

[thin lotus]

Not nearly enough

[empty steppe]

I still don’t know why we don’t have firing modes…

[thorny acorn]

bc no one would use them

maybe Thompson and ppsh but like whats the point

[empty steppe]

I would use them every game tbh

Stg-44 also

Fg-42

[wind shore]

And would be cool have different mortars for loadouts

[thorny acorn]

select fire rate bar

[wind shore]

It will be really good progress - when you open it, you getting more and more powerful mortar

[wind shore]

STG, BAR, FG, on modes A and S

[empty steppe]

Oh yes

[thorny acorn]

no i meant BAR has a variable rate of fire

[empty steppe]

High fire rate bar would be amazing

[thorny acorn]

it can shoot fast and slow

[empty steppe]

Best weapon in the game for cqb haha

[thorny acorn]

~600 fast and ~350 slow

[wind shore]

Okay

Just fire modes will be good enough also

Sometimes we need single mode

[empty steppe]

I think most troops issued with the ppsh used it almost on semi auto only?

At least that would make most since for the time

[thorny acorn]

add the ak47 🙏

[wind shore]

We should get nebelwerfers as commander ability for Germans also, same as Katysha, but cost more for resources

[thorny acorn]

the anti tank gun for other factions

its super fun to shoot troops with them

[wind shore]

( I’m not seriously about this, now it’s pretty balanced )

[wind shore]

PzB for North African campaign and Eastern front

I don’t like to play AT class and mostly I never play it

Just only a little

[covert elbow]

I mean over long ranges maybe but not using full auto on your SMG isn’t the smartest thing in the world

[empty steppe]

Nah let’s be historically accurate here, as-44 😉

Which still isn’t historically accurate 😭🤣

[thorny acorn]

add the hellriegel

[covert elbow]

SMG 08-18

[thorny acorn]

AVT? the full auto svt

[thorny acorn]

i hate it, no

[empty steppe]

Well if you’ve got barely any ammo 😭

[empty steppe]

Nope lemme find a picture

[wind shore]

I was shocked when I saw it in enlisted

[thorny acorn]

no i know what it is, just offering something that would be accurate

[covert elbow]

Side note it’s always funny to me seeing WWI media and seeing super obscure weapons from BF1 that were never actually used

[empty steppe]

I wish we could get the avt in this game 😢

[covert elbow]

I mean that’s for any weapon

So it’s not applicable

[empty steppe]

Oh

[wind shore]

Not something which looks like AK should be in WW2 game, also all guns should be canonic and not like in enlisted

Where you have RPM etc, or Springfields

[covert elbow]

In a normal scenario though only using semi-auto is missing the point of why you have the weapon

[wind shore]

Polish bolt rifles in count of 100 for Germans , short PPSH in African campaign , Volksturm in Tobruk

[empty steppe]

It highly depends on the situation

[past vortex]

well, it depends on how much ammo you got issued

[wind shore]

All those things are from enlisted

[empty steppe]

But when your under too much stress to take shots full auto is probably your best bet

[covert elbow]

Nah add the Springfield to all classes and make it base kit trust me my dad was a Marine who landed on Normandy and had a squad of only Springfields

[wind shore]

It’s not accurate , all guns rn is good

They are canonic, M1 Garand is enough

[thorny acorn]

wasn't the garand THE main weapon of the us

[empty steppe]

Soviets prob got issued like one magazine for the ppsh 😅

Or none 🤣

Open the chamber and load in a round

[thorny acorn]

and a rock that was painted to look like bread

[past vortex]

they came with 2 fitted drum mags offically

[thorny acorn]

we are talking about a communist country, officially doesn't mean it happened

[empty steppe]

No no he’s gotta point

[wind shore]

We miss M1A1 carbine paratrooper version, it should be more than less Springfield’s which was owned by little groups in Normandy

[covert elbow]

No they only issued the Springfield so stop thinking and let me gaslight you

[thorny acorn]

m3 infrared when?

[past vortex]

im saying that even in the best case it got less ammo irl than in hll

[empty steppe]

No

I’m sorry 😂

[thorny acorn]

o7

[covert elbow]

Be a neat thing to have for the M1942 uniform

[covert elbow]

M1941 Johnson when?

[thorny acorn]

oh yea that thing

[wind shore]

But paratroopers were the biggest part of Normandy, with their M1A1 carbines and 82 and 101 divisions uniforms

[thorny acorn]

the pistol flamethrower when?

[wind shore]

And also canonic , sadly we still haven’t got those patches , but we have 3 paratrooper’s uniforms which looks the same

[covert elbow]

Kampfpistole when?

[thorny acorn]

the uhh, that 4 round burst Italian thing?

[covert elbow]

Madsen MG when?

[thorny acorn]

or type 2a

[covert elbow]

ZK-303 when?

[thorny acorn]

wow don't be dissin Madsen, that shi good

[wind shore]

You can join enlisted and have each gun of WW2

[covert elbow]

ERMA MP when

[covert elbow]

I’m not but it has no place in game lmao

[empty steppe]

That weapon actually saw quite a bit of service with the Canadians and early US service. We have quite a bit of evidence of it being used in Italy

[wind shore]

It’s from golden pass from enlisted also

But they are not accurate - Rnlisted

[covert elbow]

From a singular division

[past vortex]

Hyde M1944

[empty steppe]

Yes

[covert elbow]

It’s slotted into the cool and unique weapons of WW2 but has absolutely no place in a game focused on the standard kit of WW2

[empty steppe]

Johnson lmg was a bit wider in use in the same places

[covert elbow]

It fits in games like BFV and Enlisted but not HLL

[wind shore]

Yes, all those weapons except paratrooper’s carbine M1A1 doesn’t fit in HLL. All innacurate or small count stuff should be kept in enlisted

[thorny acorn]

Madsen to HLL when, I NEED MY FALLING BLOCK LMG

[wind shore]

BFV was my first and the last one BF game

[covert elbow]

Maybe if we get a 1940 French campaign

[empty steppe]

If we got the Canadians I’d say the Johnson lmg should probably get its place in there

[thorny acorn]

try bf1 it won't disappoint

[covert elbow]

No

[wind shore]

I’ve heard

[thorny acorn]

stinger if we get Pacific?

[covert elbow]

There’s litterly no point because 1SSF was joint Canadian-American

[empty steppe]

It was used in pretty good numbers 😂

[wind shore]

About it

[covert elbow]

No it wasn’t haha

[dim imp]

Guys

[wind shore]

MP38 and Kar98k with open sight could be cool

[dim imp]

Do you know why mortain always lags for me

[wind shore]

And MP28

[thorny acorn]

its really good, fun gameplay, and atmosphere is amazing, its not really historically accurate but they never aimed at it

[wind shore]

Same, but it was fixed once

[thorny acorn]

MP-18, my favourite

[dim imp]

It still does and its not smooth like any other maps

[covert elbow]

No clue sorry

[wind shore]

Idk, first time Mortain was hell, cause it was laggy

[empty steppe]

10,000 ish got produced and pushed into service, that still might be too little though for this game haha

[wind shore]

It’s my favourite map now, Mortain, and sadly it less plays on servers cause it’s laggy

[covert elbow]

Honestly my opinions on BF1 have really changed. Imo the only strong suits it has is the maps and atmosphere

Everything else is pretty unbalanced

[wind shore]

I always try to catch it, but it’s not so often in map rotation

[dim imp]

I dont like mortain its not detailed like old maps

[thorny acorn]

still better than bfv from my experience

[covert elbow]

And 1SSF only received 125 when they got sent to Italy

[wind shore]

I don’t like BF5 for their 150% inaccuracies and anachronisms

[covert elbow]

Nope. BFV is very well balanced and almost every weapon and vehicle is viable

[thorny acorn]

well the game isn't meant to be historically accurate

[wind shore]

I know, so why I play HLL

[empty steppe]

And enlisted is better?…

[covert elbow]

It’s the opposite of BF1. It just doesn’t have good atmosphere or maps

[empty steppe]

BF1 atleast they just embrace inaccuracy

[covert elbow]

BFV went to far to even be called a ww2 game tbh. Their uniforms for almost every faction is disgusting. Sucks because the tanks and vehicles look amazing

[dim imp]

What do you think of schwimmwagen on driel map?

[thorny acorn]

its awfully unfun being blasted by type 2a spammers and snipers, and i don't wanna talk about planes

[wind shore]

It was, until they made a hodgepodge

It’s better, enlisted , so the immersion is better and dynamics , then BF5

[thorny acorn]

and tanks are ewww

unfun to play against

[covert elbow]

And it’s awful being blasted by federov Avtomats, hellreigels, SMG 08/18’s, M1907 Sweepers, IMG 08/18’s, Illya Muramets, and mortar trucks

[past vortex]

skill issue

[wind shore]

HLL won for historical accuracy - all those games

[covert elbow]

Tanks are unfun because their actually balanced unlike BF1 where one assault can take out a tank single hand idly

[thorny acorn]

thank god for community servers 🙏

[covert elbow]

Don’t exist on console

[thorny acorn]

platform issue

[wind shore]

COD also was tried to be accurate, but after they changed their way and audience to kids , it’s like Fortnite

[thorny acorn]

the turret is just way too fast

[covert elbow]

Their accurate to real life lmao

[wind shore]

And mostly orientation is on - blue and pink unicorns and pink Nicky Minaj skins

So , no comparison to all those games, except HLL, we can compare it to something similar

[covert elbow]

Also side note what were the devs smoking in BF3/4 with the tank turret speed being tied to the players rotation speed lmao

[thorny acorn]

idk but bf4 car with c4 driving into tanks was funny to do

[covert elbow]

Tbh the tank rotation speed could absolutely be slower

That’s a valid criticism

[wind shore]

I really don’t wanna compare or talk about BF5 , cause it’s not comparable to HLL

[covert elbow]

Also the spamming of heavy tanks is stupid

[thorny acorn]

and omg the new revive system is awful in bfv, i cant stand it

[covert elbow]

Why a team can have so many tigers is insane

[covert elbow]

Bad take. It’s really good

[thorny acorn]

give me back my syringe 😭

[covert elbow]

Now you actually have to think about reviving people instead of hopping in and sticking a syringe in them

Plus it allows for squad revives which is a god send

[thorny acorn]

i used to get 100 revives a game, and now its too slow

smh im complaining about a 7 yr old game which hasn't seen development for like idk 5?

[covert elbow]

Your just not playing medic right then haha

[thorny acorn]

stupid ik

[covert elbow]

You won’t be able to break 100 as easily but you can still absolutely get high revive numbers

[covert elbow]

We play HLL nothings beneath us

[thorny acorn]

actually I haven't played it for past 2 weeks

maybe 3

[covert elbow]

I haven’t played in a month lmao

I’ve actually been playing a ton of BF5, BF1, and battlefront 2

[thorny acorn]

lol

[covert elbow]

Been really nice getting back into them

[thorny acorn]

ive been playing with friends lots of repo, bf1 and bfv

maybe even few matches of league 🤮

but tbh the biggest reason im not playing hll is the protests

its too time consuming to play hll for me

[covert elbow]

The protests?

[slate canopy]

I've played a couple matches of HLL lately. Lots of fun. Also working on a BG3 with my husband and some Wuwa. Tried the MechaBreak demo, super fun and fills my Gundam Evo void.

[covert elbow]

I’m not playing HLL because it just isn’t fun anymore. Even tried playing with friends but it was just no mics and steamrolls for 2 matches straight

Probably just going to get a film group for the game and that’ll be my only interaction with the actual game outside of updates

[thorny acorn]

no politics in general i believe so just google: "serbia student protests" if u wanna know something and here is the official page of the students https://blokade.org/en/

[empty steppe]

I just switch between like isonzo, rs2, Hll (when it updates), and bf1 or 5

[thorny acorn]

bg3?

baldurs gate 3

[slate canopy]

yup

[thorny acorn]

omg im stupid nvm

[slate canopy]

hahaha it's all good

[thorny acorn]

well that seems fun

[covert elbow]

Oh I heard about those. Good for standing up man 🦾

[empty steppe]

Isonzo is Suprisingly a very well made game, I just wish that game series didn’t split everything into separate games, they would have done a lot better

[covert elbow]

Really hope that after Izonzo they make a complete package with all 3 games but with the updated systems and engine

[empty steppe]

Oh dude that would be amazing

[thorny acorn]

probably not happening

[covert elbow]

Cause playing Verdin you can absolutely tell it was made in 2016 lmao

[thorny acorn]

it would be cool but i dont think they care enough

[empty steppe]

Still pretty fun hahaha 😂

[covert elbow]

Probably but I can hope. I play HLL anyways