mess-hall

[gusty fable]

Crazy part is you cant even turn while stopped

[frank walrus]

royal marine commandos are 1k too in UK

[frank walrus]

you can technically

[gusty fable]

You can't

You have to slightly go forwards

[frank walrus]

you cant press D only yeah but you can put it in neutral and max the rpm then shift to first and hold WD or WA yeah

but if you time it correctly you can turn in your place

[sick furnace]

a sin in itself

[gusty fable]

S44's tank driving in much better

[maiden skiff]

We have 3 servers as a community lol, 2 in North America and 1 in Europe as of now.

[maiden skiff]

Hell yeah

[sick furnace]

I've basically given up playing heavies, except for the Germans cause the pIV sucks

[frank walrus]

it doesnt take skill to drive a light, what takes skill is getting out of danger when you're shot at in mediums and heavies, or turning based solely on sound to face the enemy tank because your spotter has the iq of a sofa

lights are just one shot kill

[past vortex]

and doesnt that split the clan for the most time ?
i surly would play on the closest server almost always

[frank walrus]

sent u the server in priv if u wanna talk to the owners

[sick furnace]

I mean yeah kinda? It takes more skill from the commander to not get into a situation where you get hit

[frank walrus]

i dont know them personally im just a member

[frank walrus]

yeah i dont trust those hehe

[sick furnace]

And I don't trust drivers

[frank walrus]

fair enough ngl

[sick furnace]

Cause the random ones either can't (drive at all) or just do their own thing

[maiden skiff]

Well that's why I was trying to get separate leadership for the European group. Basically they would run it how they see fit and just use the resources we already have to help get them established.

[arctic rampart]

Ye, 90% of clans just accept anyone anyways lol
I can see if some peeps are interested, got some text/dc/whatever to share?

[maiden skiff]

I'll shoot ya a dm

[past vortex]

thats true, but most will also kick those who turnout toxic afterwards

[earnest cliff]

Hello!

[stiff blade]

Hey guys, I'm having a performance issues with the game.
I have GTX 1070, Ryzen 5 1600, Asus Prime A320M-K motherboard, 16Gb of DDR 4 RAM at 2400Mhz.
Despite my GPU being at 60-70% usage and CPU being barely used at around 40-50% i almost constantly have below 60fps like low 50s and high 40s.
Sometimes it even drops so low in below 10s and sometimes its stuck at those low 10-20 for few seconds.
Anybody had any similar issues before i could really use some help.
Thanks a lot in advance.

[real parrot]

If you don't hear the commander your going to end up dying 90% the time

Honestly I can't imagine a tank crew where everyone just does whatever they feel and going it well. The commander is there for a reason (command). And that's why in many servers there are minimal level to play tank commander

[stoic garnet]

Tank commander role requires so much experience that it doesn’t really matter in pubs, because your pub tc isnt going to make good decisions no matter what. ☕️

[past vortex]

your cpu is too slow
but you likely can improve your gpu usage by using directx 12
add parameter -dx12
be aware that it will build the cache in game after enableing and every update/driver update so you will have some temp frame drops on every map for the first time

[real parrot]

Maybe try changing the servers you play in. 70% of Tank commanders I see knows what they are doing, and we all know each other. This happened after in our community a rule that the min level to play Tank commander was 80, on top that every officer has to speak and communicate.

[stoic garnet]

What server is that?

[real parrot]

Hispanian community

[stoic garnet]

I don’t believe you tbh

[past veldt]

Spanish community is relatively small, so they probably do know each other

[real parrot]

Basically it has a bot that kicks you if you play Recon, Tank commander or Commander if less than level 80 and an active community and such

I would say the HLL spanish community is as big as 2 times the circle community or any of that kind, I don't how many servers others community has

We have 5 for instance, 4 open to the public and 1 dedicated to events and comp training

[stiff blade]

I see, but despite being so low on utilisation its still the culprit ?

[stoic garnet]

I’m sure everyone knows each other, I doubt there are pubs with tcs that know what they are doing. I’ve only met <10 total.

[sick furnace]

I am by the same experience

[sick furnace]

Some are cool guys. It's just SO rare

[real parrot]

I think I know around 15 tank commanders that are really good and play regularly

But TC is all about experience and leadership, is quite hard to find someone that is actually a good leader and knows to play the game.

[past vortex]

its 2 seperate things
dx12 helps with the usage, your cpu will still be too slow

[sick furnace]

Lol sounds about right. I've found in total about 10, not counting my clanmates

[limber leaf]

i wish we could have the queens regiment in hell let loose it wou;d be so nice

[lucid tusk]

The Queens regiment that was formed in 1966?

[stiff blade]

Alright, thanks mate

[near totem]

what does shovel icon next to squad name (like on supply mark) mean?

like here https://imgur.com/a/jYfEMiC

[gentle lintel]

the squad leader has designated that squad as a support squad, loosely it just means they're focused on running supplies, making garrisons, etc., as opposed to being defensive or offensive

[near totem]

thank you. yeah, now I see that button to choose squad designation

[past vortex]

how does the SL do that?

[arctic rampart]

In the deploy screen where you see the squads on the left, you have a little symbol thingy next to your own squads callout

There you can designate if you use a mic as well as the attack/defense/support/artillery icons.

For most squads it doesn't matter, but if it's like a solo-locked guy, then designating support or artillery is very welcomed, speaking from a leadership position.

[past vortex]

ah tnx

[onyx seal]

Hi all

[finite berry]

hello

[winter palm]

allo farncais

francais

[past vortex]

no ç ?

[winter palm]

je cherche joueur

[finite berry]

English

[chilly swallow]

Yo guys can someone help me

I'm stuck on the loading screen

[winter palm]

francais

[arctic rampart]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1324513094055231569

[slate canopy]

If you are looking for French speaking players there is #enlist_language and select the flag to speak with them.

[river rover]

This can be a few things. Usually it's due to not having the 2 (Inbound) Hell Let Loose items in your firewall settings for UDP and TCP. You can go here https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271718922734796865 and see the pinned messages by me with pin icon up top right of that page. You will then once those are configured delete your webcache folder, and be sure your date\time are properly configured and set to Automatic and synced with the Internet. Then you want to go to the easyanticheat folder and run the easyanticheat_EOS_setup.exe file by Right clicking on it and running as Administrator and select Yes when prompted. Be sure game is also on an internal SSD rather than a regular HDD.

[novel geyser]

might aswell ask again but my game since kharkov was added freezes when loading the server browser for like 5 minutes or longer and havent found any fix for it
is there ANY known solution to this? Because im yet to find one

[stoic garnet]

The freeze on the load screen is due to the way HLL polls steam for the server list. Not much to do as far as I see it

[novel geyser]

damn

weird because it was totally fine before the burning snow update or whatever it was called. my friend gets into the server list instantly tho, I've seen other people mention this problem but it seems random

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Some players may experience the following issues during Steam's routine maintenance:

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[prime vigil]

Hey

[cyan saddle]

I do know is that it's become a common issue leading up to the EGS release because they spun up hundreds of additional servers that need to be queried. But Burning Snow was well over a year ago so that doens't really explain it. You can try messing with the Server Browser Pings setting in Steam, but not sure if it'll make a difference given the (seemingly) different issue plaguing all Steam players currently.

[novel geyser]

I have tried the ping setting but it just makes the server list infinitely load

[tacit canopy]

I’d recommend filtering out “empty servers” that tends to add a lot of load time because there’s a bunch

[slate canopy]

I always filter out full and empty.

[novel geyser]

yeah I've done that hasnt made much of a diff

[slate canopy]

I'm curious how long mine actually takes, so lemme test with a timer. 🤔

[novel geyser]

Im just rough guessing but mine is definitely more than 5 minutes

[slate canopy]

mine took roughly 35 seconds. It's only showing community (bottom right corner says "982 serves found (115 shown)"

[past vortex]

filtering full?
the ones you would want to play on ?

[slate canopy]

Full would show as 100/100, not the 98/100 where people are still queued.

[novel geyser]

I'd love to just have it open my favourites to be quicker but nope have to open into all servers first

[past vortex]

its aweful :/

also why does it have to take any amount of time

[novel geyser]

possibly a bug tbh

[past vortex]

the list should be ready at any time serverside

[novel geyser]

because it never used to do it and my friend can load the list in seconds

[past vortex]

id say its stupidly implemented

[past vortex]

on epic?

[novel geyser]

nop

steam

both me and my friend steam

and as I said the server browser first started doing this for me when Kharkov was added to the game

[novel geyser]

6 minutes it took for the server browser to load
filtered to have no full, empty or passworded servers show and minimum 70 players, only 46 servers shown out of 958

the thing is it will do it even if I close the browser before it freezes, Ill leave a server and it automatically opens the browser, if I quickly close it it will still freeze after a while

[slate canopy]

If this is for community servers, you have to contact the admins of those servers. Nothing we can do about it. If you have an issue within the official, you can reach out to Team17 Support. Now if you're talking of discord, they can do a ban appeal in the proper procedures.

[languid totem]

How do you even find them

[slate canopy]

Find what?

[languid totem]

The servers to find the admins

The official servers are never full and they are always full of free play weekend players. Makes the game impossible.

[slate canopy]

If you remember the name of the community server, you can possibly find their discord links either by search in the top right or maybe they have posted in #1343089641489961001. Or use google?

[languid totem]

Apparently once one server bans you they share it so I have no idea what ones. All of mine are now not even in the US

[slate canopy]

🤷‍♂️ Like I said, you can attempt to appeal on one of those servers, if you remember a name. Sorry.

[past vortex]

why sorry

[gentle lintel]

Polar bear Canadian confirmed

[languid totem]

Anybody have a couple links to north east servers discords

Almost level 100 and always follow the guidelines

[past vortex]

:D

[kindred cipher]

Anyone having issues with US East servers?

[cyan bone]

anybody wanna help me with a video?

[languid totem]

Huk I don’t understand why your so against everything here

I have no us East servers either

[ancient dome]

bit laggy at times but settles for me

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE NOW ENDING** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[quiet oxide]

Can anyone tell me what this is, please? "autentication timed out 1/2"

[slate canopy]

Does it say "Anti Cheat" before that?

[quiet oxide]

no

just that

can´t post the screenshot here, i´ll send it to u

[slate canopy]

Can you post a screenshot in #1271718922734796865 ?

[quiet oxide]

done

[slate canopy]

I'll see if I can help you in there. If not, someone else may have an idea.

[quiet oxide]

i reloged the game on steam and it runs ok now

[slate canopy]

Ah, verified files?

[final radish]

Hello everyone!

[covert elbow]

Another month, another for the roadmap

#console-general-chat message

Remember this?

That was nice

[frail ingot]

Damn BNT just camps OPs in glow central lol

[idle osprey]

so is there any way for Pc and Console players to party up/play together?

[covert elbow]

No

And it is not planned to do so in the future

[woven lynx]

better that way

[analog apex]

yeah... "2025 roadmap will be revealed in December/January" 😄
Now, even the February is about to run out of days and there is still no indication that it is actually coming soon 😬 . I would say yet no less than another full week or two, at minimum.

[feral roost]

Is HLL dead on Playstation just bought it and keep loading into sessions with just myself and like one other person

[analog apex]

I guess it's best to ask in#console-general-chat , most of the people here in this current channel are PC.

[feral roost]

Gotcha thank you!^

[covert elbow]

They usually do this stuff on a Monday if I recall correctly so it’s definitely at least a week out

[frank walrus]

What's the channel you're linking? it's being displayed as # no access

[viral pine]

hey i got a problem guys with the game everytime i join a server its saying failled to join or smt or the server is empty and it was like 30 people in there i got the game from epic games

so idk how to fix it

[summer grove]

Filter out empty servers and it's better to join a full server or close to full server with the lowest ping

[analog apex]

it's the console-peeps chat

[viral pine]

now i fixed it kinda fixed

now i got mic problem

[frank walrus]

go into settings>audio>make sure voip is connected

[viral pine]

i did i pressed 100 times but its disconnected

every time

[frank walrus]

if it is not connected and you fail to connect go download a small app called cloudfare warp aka 1.1.1.1 and connect to it then restart the game

if you live in the middle east or the -stan parts of asia most governments have voip blocked

[viral pine]

wait i can do this in pc hol up

[viral pine]

oh hell nah

:( its blocked

[frank walrus]

yeah internet calls use voip and are much cheaper than usual credit calls plus they'd like to listen to whatever call without hastle so they just blocked it which is affecting video games

[viral pine]

f _ this shi

[frank walrus]

telephone companies were going broke in egypt lol they decided to ban it

[frank walrus]

yeah cloudfare will fix it

[viral pine]

wait how do you know

[frank walrus]

im egyptian

[viral pine]

oh nvm

اصلا

[viral pine]

can u go dm pls

[frank walrus]

im about to drive dm me and I'll answer in like 30 when im home

[viral pine]

k so there is no fix ?

[frank walrus]

https://one.one.one.one/ download this app, turn it on and restart the game

[viral pine]

ahh what is that ? vpn

[frank walrus]

kind of but its free

[viral pine]

when u gonna be free

why could play togther :)

[covert elbow]

Dont do that

For the love of liberty don’t download that

[viral pine]

what virse ?

[frank walrus]

it's the only thing that works in egypt

[frank walrus]

next week probably

[viral pine]

i think i can do it without downloading it

i think in setting

في اعدادت صح ؟

[frank walrus]

all other vpns are paid except windscribe it gives you 10gb of free data, now if I know the voip ip address i would have split tunneled on windscribe but for some reason the devs have that as a secret too

[frank walrus]

settings and audio, just like valorant and call of duty voice chat this is also blocked as it uses voip

not sure if u can connect without a vpn

[viral pine]

افهم قصدي تعمله من اعدادت الويندوز ذات نفسو

[frank walrus]

no, inside the game, setting,audio and the last thing in the list is voip status

if you try to connect and it doesn't work then either download cloudfare completely for free or if you have a paid vpn like proton it will work

[viral pine]

بص خاص مش عارف ابعت الصوره

[frank walrus]

im sending u a voice note

[midnight nacelle]

قم بتنزيل البرامج غير الرسمية على مسؤوليتك الخاصة

Download unofficial software at your own risk.

[viral pine]

chill man i didnt

[midnight nacelle]

I apologise that I do not fully understand the situation as I do not know your locale but please be careful and if you wish to assist each other please take it to a Private Message. 🙂

[viral pine]

ma bad man

just i want to fix voip problem

its banned in egypt

[midnight nacelle]

No worries, I know VOIP Blocker can be very difficult and I do not mean to offend anyone just keeping everyone safe. 🙏

[viral pine]

if change dns server to 1.1.1.1 so its gonna fix ?

[viral pine]

u good man thx

[viral pine]

um do u know good sultion to do ?

about viop

[midnight nacelle]

I'm sorry I have no solution, you'll have to ask local gamers which method they find to be best and safest.

[viral pine]

sry if i am annoying

[viral pine]

k :(

may i ask why there is no AR chat ?

its got commenty there

[covert elbow]

AR?

Oh Arabic?

Hmm

[frank walrus]

we're both egyptians its either a paid vpn or the free alternative that is cloudfare warp app 😔

i used cloudfare for quite some time

i do understand your responsibility to keep the chat safe though and appreciate it

sorry for the link

[midnight nacelle]

There may already be a popular Community Discord, we only recently added Portuguese for our newest friends!

[oak current]

Automatic Rifle!

[analog apex]

more like automatic rifleman

xD

[covert elbow]

I’m going to squeeze both of you

[oak current]

[frank walrus]

this sticker is good

[viral pine]

ya

[viral pine]

bruh

[worthy charm]

[livid laurel]

does anyone have a invite to 3para's discord server it shows that link is invalid

[ashen basin]

If you see the full name of the server usually they have the discord link in Server name. or if you join the server it could be in their welcome message (rules)

or is that the one invalid

oh ic i just checked hmm

[gentle lintel]

dm'd him ❤️

[ashen basin]

Drew being a G

was gonna go in HLL Bunker an ask the owner before drew saves the day 🙂

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-i-did-good-good-job-me-i-did-it-gif-26673227

[verbal frost]

Any roadmap for 2025 that include mortars any soon?

[covert elbow]

No

We still have no idea when it’ll release. At this point expect it sometime in March

[ashen basin]

We will get to see the 2025 Roadmap in 2026.

[covert elbow]

And bipods still won’t be fixed

[ashen basin]

lmao || classified name i know whos doing this 😛 ||

[noble plume]

https://tenor.com/view/gabe-newell-gif-11543553

[cosmic pilot]

Who's posts was he trained on

[covert elbow]

Probably Jerhico

[wind shore]

Is Greg dissappeared?

from HLL Discord, or he is with us?

he would be together with Ben or only Ben

[midnight nacelle]

What is the implication? 🤔

[midnight nacelle]

I believe Ben is transitioning into our dedicated CM whilst Greg will remain a Senior Manager across other T17 Titles. / Please correct me if wrong.

[wind shore]

Yes, correct me please) if i'm wrong. Cause I don't know who will be with us

Greg or Ben , or together

[midnight nacelle]

Primarily Ben, Greg may occasionally advise.

[atomic pendant]

It's the ONLY way to ensure they can deliver on it lol

[ashen basin]

hehehe

[wind shore]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1343025977319751741

I’m doing the full detailed map concept

[versed ocean]

I wanna choke those idiots that have no clue how to play and refuse to listen

[arctic rampart]

nw bro, I'll help

[wind shore]

what do you think about this map guys

[arctic rampart]

What map?

[wind shore]

.

[wind shore]

This

could it the the second Carentan on the east?

[arctic rampart]

I mean sure, why not. Seems there's enough content to make a map out of. And soviets vs axis don't have that many, so no reason not to

[versed ocean]

Nice

[solar crow]

sick map

[wind shore]

have you seen the details?

[wind shore]

wdym

[versed ocean]

It's awesome

[wind shore]

it's not completed by the way 🙂 i'm gonna upload more photos

[solar crow]

means its dope

devs gotta add this map now theres a lot of details

[covert elbow]

They give you guys the super early access sneak peak in the war correspondent chat yet?

[wind shore]

it's all WW2 photos or before WW2

and also colorised photos

[solar crow]

awesome

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, I saw the details. Too bad t17 don't care too much

[wind shore]

i think the northern part didn't changed much to nowadays

where is small houses, but i uploaded WW2 and 20 century era photos

[covert elbow]

It’s not illegal if you don’t care for the law

I’ll give you 5 rubles to leak it

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/well-that's-too-damn-bad-holes-too-bad-oh-well-suck-it-up-gif-14703423262202948839

[solar crow]

https://tenor.com/view/epic-embed-fail-ryan-gosling-cereal-embed-failure-laugh-at-this-user-gif-20627924

[thorny acorn]

ill give you 6 rubles

ok 7

[wind shore]

i don't have so much

[cosmic pilot]

See the favoritism inherent in the system? 😒

[wintry thistle]

I'm being repressed

[echo nova]

bro why does others AA look bomb but mine looks like horse shite

[full ridge]

Why did the PC seeding channel go bye bye

[viral pine]

@midnight nacelle i FIXED MY PROBLEM OF VOICE CHAT!!!!

its was needing that 1.1.1.1 vpn btw

[midnight nacelle]

I'm glad to hear it! 🎉

[shadow bronze]

We got a 2025 Among Us roadmap before HLL roadmap 😭

[summer grove]

Pretty easy to build a road map for a game that doesn't have roads

[cosmic pilot]

Personally I don't want to see Ben's face unless it's in #telegrams

[viral pine]

btw how i can fix the coniction problem when i enter a game

its realy take alot time to enter

[pine ember]

AMOGUS

[past vortex]

5080 dropped before the roadmap too

[worthy charm]

You already bought one?

[past vortex]

im team red

[worthy charm]

Im an idiot, please explain

[past vortex]

amd

the idea of paying for 1/3 of the chip being dedicated for "ai" doesnt sit well with me

my fav hll yter fell for it now, cant watch that anymore :{

[worthy charm]

Yeah, that and the new cards are even more expensive than the 40 series.

[snow crane]

where are teams ?

for playing?

[shadow bronze]

GTA 6 before '25 roadmap at this rate

[silk igloo]

wait a few more days and make it a roadmap for the remaining 300 days of the year

[lilac robin]

helloooo

[willow dirge]

hello all

[worthy charm]

#pc-looking-for-unit

Youre looking for that?

[willow dirge]

.divrules

[wise robin]

.divrules

[sand hatch]

so, after epic games giving away the game for free is over, are the new players using the microphone and communicating or will i face silent lobbies still?

Cause being the only one yapping is sad

[wise robin]

It's all about joining good servers

[sand hatch]

the most cryptic answer

[wise robin]

Our 7th Cavalry servers require SL's to have mics for instance

[sand hatch]

but in random servers?

should i expect silence?

[grizzled kiln]

yes

[wise robin]

I never play on random servers so Im not sure

[sand hatch]

lovely

wouldnt specific good servers be constantly queued?

[sturdy surge]

!ComMendez

[gentle lintel]

get your coding outta here noodle

[trail crow]

.divrules

[sturdy surge]

I needed an emoji code!

[ripe thicket]

.

[oak current]

[frank walrus]

coolest correspondent is here

[dry steppe]

Hello!

[frank walrus]

suppppp

[dry steppe]

I'm new to the game...just got it 10 mins ago

[frank walrus]

welcome aboard, gonna be a tough ride to get started. You'll die quite alot

if you need any help ask away

[wise robin]

.divrules

[oak current]

Tastiest War Croissant!

[frank walrus]

[visual niche]

Need to rewire some things before that command is working

[dry steppe]

I just did😂

I'm not sure how to go about finding a server...to enlist

[frank walrus]

join a server that's in the 70-80 count to join quick, keep in mind ping

some servers are public aka provided by the game

some are community which have their own set of rules

community are better, more people with mics

[dry steppe]

Yeah true that about the mics

So is this game just trial by fire?

[slate canopy]

Trial by fire?

[frank walrus]

you mean trial and error? no not necessarily if you know what you're doing and you have map awarness

[cosmic pilot]

I'll rewire you to get you working 🪛

[eager crypt]

Daily checking on communication regarding the next update. Still Soon(tm)?

[frank walrus]

i will get married and have kids before the road map comes out (im 20)

[slate canopy]

[viral pine]

um i got qustion when the aribce chat will be add ?

there is 700 people from africa here

so there is 50% chance that most of them from middel east

like 300 or 200 people ?

its alot tbh

am right mate @frank walrus ?

[visual niche]

In Discord?

[frank walrus]

most of them are south african, i've met maybe like 5 arabic speakers since i played the game but i mean doesn't hurt

[frank walrus]

yeah

[visual niche]

Make a https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1098158460463480842 with the "Discord" tag for now, but perhaps once we have the moderation resources to support it, if it's something people would like.

[willow dirge]

.divrules

[slate elbow]

#mess-hall message

[viral pine]

ya

[viral pine]

i agree

[viral pine]

i wil make it rn

[frosty sinew]

Network error anyone?

[nocturne sky]

.divrules

[viral pine]

use vpn maybe it worked for me

[dry steppe]

Anyone up to play on console?

[past vortex]

no, thanks

[visual niche]

It's a tempting offer

[past vortex]

true, but im good for now

[finite berry]

Good luck ❤️ 😉

[frank walrus]

did u read my suggestion best mod in the universe?

[visual niche]

-# yes

[frank walrus]

rate

[worthy charm]

Do you mean rat?

or Ratte and you forgott a t?

[past vortex]

wow, it never occured to me that a Ratte is a rat with an AT

[visual niche]

9/10 from skimming

We talking Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/363877549534740480/1270893467320451102/0ih7cwv.jpg?ex=67c05306&is=67bf0186&hm=240a487bbdb6526329a3baba9892cfebd80e1787cd84e496424316ce11a5b61a&=&format=webp&width=1645&height=925

[past vortex]

imagine how that would get stuc in hll

[visual niche]

1 rogue piano and the thing is stuck

[frank walrus]

W

[empty steppe]

Bet it couldn’t make it over a ditch still 😂

[acoustic ravine]

definetly crashing at those damn logs

[visual niche]

Imagine the recoil from the naval guns

[worthy charm]

Where the hell did you get this from?

I once saw a similar image

[visual niche]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-research-gif-10381154

[worthy charm]

with a diffrent angle i think

[visual niche]

From the archives

Aka the internet

[worthy charm]

Tell me tha way!!!

OHA

Das Internet ist für uns alle Neuland

[visual niche]

I don't trust it

[past vortex]

it got a lot worse in the last years :{

[frank walrus]

i would love to satchel that

[visual niche]

I just wanna know how those 2 people got on top of it

[wind shore]

Possible it was fiction tank like 1st April fool jokes or something like that

So it was custom server

[worthy charm]

Imagine you kill that one shot😂

[wind shore]

I’ve seen the old photos of SMD

[worthy charm]

Peek satchel gameplay

[wind shore]

and old gameplay moments

The game raised in content for 2 years

[empty steppe]

Russian ptrs built different

[ashen basin]

The word "soon" is notoriously vague! It doesn't have a fixed timeframe. Here's why:

• Context is Key:
  • "Soon" can mean different things depending on the situation. If a doctor says they'll be there "soon," that likely means within minutes. If a geologist talks about something happening "soon," it could mean within thousands of years.
  • So, what "soon" means is very dependant on the conversation that is happening.
• Subjectivity:
  • One person's "soon" might be another person's "later." It's a subjective term.
    In essence, "soon" generally implies a relatively short time in the future, but the exact duration is flexible.

AKA, soon doesn't have a timeframe that is acceptable

Yea that's what my phone told me hehe

[slate canopy]

... Ok 👍

[ashen basin]

Hahaha sure think bru .. don't care comment love it

[wind shore]

First time playing with anti tank role and destroyed a garry with first ever shot 700 feet away

[slate canopy]

Nice shot!

[wind shore]

I wish I clipped it

[ocean sage]

I'm either failing to record my best matches or dying repeatedly when I do record

[past vortex]

those divrules are clearly the latest hype

[glossy ridge]

Hello how can i have permission to post on the discord chan tech solutions please ?

[slate canopy]

Are you needing to share a tech solution? Or is this you're having an issue? If you have an issue, you can share in #1271718922734796865

[glossy ridge]

Having an issue yes ! thank you

[slate canopy]

Sure thing. Someone may be able to help you

[glossy ridge]

I hope so because i really want to play 😦

[wind shore]

Hello

I’m tired 🥱

[plush robin]

Im gonna nuke

Idk what I'm gonna nuke but I'm gonna nuke

[wind shore]

Are you toxic

Lol

[plush robin]

Idk

[visual niche]

@wise robin @slate elbow & anyone else - .divagree is the latest & greatest

(yes, it'll autodelete the comment after)

[oak current]

👀

[midnight adder]

hello all

[shadow ice]

How do I go about getting roles for talking in #1343090646168240199? My clan leader said to bump his post (https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1343285354312241202) but I can't talk in that channel

[visual niche]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/522404111409217537 but .divagree in here

[shadow ice]

Perfect, thanks for the help

[wind shore]

Max, is it possible in Discord in any ways to pin more than 10 png files?

[visual niche]

Honestly, I have no idea.. that's more of a Discord limitation if anything

[turbid badge]

Can I satchel an ally tank? team killer got away with 19/20 on a vote kick

[worthy charm]

You can but:

A - it doesnt die or take damage.

B - when a tank teamkills you, he probably didnt intend to. Losing a tank is also far worse than you getting killed...

[turbid badge]

heavy tank shooting people in hq for 5 minutes is 100% intended, not sure how he didn't get kicked automatically

[worthy charm]

Tell the admin and get him kicked.

[slate canopy]

Are you a community server? Feel free to join their discord and report them, or sometimes they have !admin.

[worthy charm]

Most community servers act fast on something like this.

[turbid badge]

Official server, ended up leaving, no outpost or garrison + that tank.
Worse than league of legends 😄

[worthy charm]

Uff

[slate canopy]

I'd say try to get on a community server 😉

[worthy charm]

Ey they brought back hextech chests

So thats a rare riot W...

[dreamy mountain]

how can i try and play competitive HLL?

[oak current]

By joining one of the teams #1343090646168240199 / #1273956824491491349

[dreamy mountain]

thank you coudnt find the pc division only xbox

[slate canopy]

If you go to the top left, you can hit the arrow and click "Show All Channels"

[wheat zephyr]

Hello all. Just joined. Learning the game atm. Good luck gaming troops

[cosmic pilot]

.Idisagree

[long relic]

this might never even be considered buti jus wanna put this out there
what if we got rifle grenades in hll
im sure it was a thing in ww2 and it could be a new class dedicated to putting smoke/he on things farther than the 45m a hand grenade goes

[cyan saddle]

.youdoyou

[cosmic pilot]

i hate this phrase

what if what i'm doing is WRONG

[covert elbow]

Been asked for years now

Some people think it should be stuck onto another class but it should be its own

Hell it should replace the assault class since that’s redundant as hell

[long relic]

i agree it should be its own

maybe we could keep the base assault class thats for pushing confined areas/mid class for ppl to grind
maybe it could add on to the rifleman/support class

has team17 at least considered rifle grenades

[covert elbow]

They’ve given no information

[wind shore]

Shisbeckher will be only for certain class

[wind shore]

Rifleman and support should mot the GGP/40.

It’s only for AT gunner

And lvl 10 loadout max, so it would be spam of Rifle grenades in that point

And break all balance, everybody will run with it

And it should be only for late maps , since 1944

So , it’s anachronistic to use those things on Tobruk or Stalingrad 1942

Maybe in 2025 will be mortar class

So it is better than rifle grenades

Mortar squad also could replace 1 recon, not to take people from the battlefield

I love mortars in enlisted

[long relic]

Ye I had a think Abt it we could move grenadier to the std assault load out and make rifle grenade the new lvl 6 assault loadout

[long relic]

Have they announced mortars btw

[wind shore]

No, it would be spam again, everybody has 6 LVL of assault

[wind shore]

No, they only will announce roadmap in couple weeks, so we will know it after they drop it

[long relic]

Oh ok

[wind shore]

Only for 10 lvl of AT class and for 1944 maps

GGP/40

So super powerful weapons like rifle grenades should be on high lvl

[visual niche]

You like your role emote?

[cosmic pilot]

this is a trick question

pog

[visual niche]

Afternoong

[silent maple]

[waxen charm]

evening

[covert elbow]

If we even get an announcement

It’s been a couple weeks out and in the finalization process for… checks watch 3 months now

[visual niche]

Just adding last minute Pacific content is all

/s

[covert elbow]

And if it takes them this long to get a roadmap out then we’re not getting a lot of stuff

If mortars is on the list I’ll eat snow

[cosmic pilot]

I eat snow

[wind shore]

anyones else game get really choppy and like no frames in the main menu of the game randomly?

[covert elbow]

I do too when I’m on a hike

[grizzled pelican]

So quick question, is there a server I can join which doesn't require level 20 for tank commander, I don't get on too often but when I do people are lucky to have me.

It's so bad in fact that I was stuck in a tank one and held off the entire enemy team in a panther II for over 30 minutes, denying then enemy a chance to advance till the end of the match but was unable to hail for support or repairs, otherwise I would turned the tide and advanced instead of being pinned down because my buddy who is high enough level to have access to coms and died. It's so annoying.

[wind shore]

Alot of servers

just gotta find one

[covert elbow]

If you want that kind of coordination join a clan because you wont find that in public servers

[cedar arrow]

Do you guys think we should have grenade launchers kit rifle for grenadiers ? or small mortar too ?

[covert elbow]

#mess-hall message

[loud cape]

is the issue with the tanks rubberbanding in every server being fixed?

its pmo

[covert elbow]

Just because you brought it up, no

[loud cape]

i wasnt asking u

[visual niche]

I'm just a lowly mod so that's more of a CM question or https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1242767547321942036

[covert elbow]

Well too bad

[visual niche]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-out-relax-be-calm-easy-take-it-easy-gif-15820228

[grizzled pelican]

How does one become a hell let loose dedicated server provider? I have a few well, spec'ed co-located machines, just itching to be used.

[gusty river]

gang whats the best nation

[analog apex]

No way to do that - only the official large server providers that are in affiliation with HLL devs, are able to make HLL servers (G-Portal, GTX Gaming, Nitrado...).

[ashen basin]

Depends for what but id say Germany has all round good stuff and it's med tank can't be penned from front vs us bazooka but the garage US med can otherwise round.

Second id say Soviet bc of their op bouncing tanks mechanic and good all round anything else.

3rd British tanks

But 3rd US infantry

Most of that is dedicated to tanks sure but tonks are best

[gusty river]

alr

[ashen basin]

How come you are asking I'm curious 🤔

[gusty river]

im new

and wondering which one i should focus on

[analog apex]

a "medic" tank ? xD

[gusty river]

is he capping or nah

[ashen basin]

Oh ok well first welcome to HLL

Also don't focus on a nation because the way the game rotates your sides otherwise you will be swapping teams every game.

Also more gameplay its more gameplay not focusing one.

And when I said Germany it's imo only when a bunch of levels are unlocked

But what's going on depends what's better ...

Small example if you are mg and you can help build defenses for the team and level up the role if you play USA not German bc us mg has hammer German doesn't.

So the real answer is none

[ashen basin]

I juuust woke up and my phone auto incorrects.... lmao

[gusty river]

alr

ty

[analog apex]

yep, as it has been said - the game rorates our team each match so it is irrelevant. But to give some info... the US faction has an advantage with the small arms as most of the infantry classes have semi-auto rifle (Garand) in their base loadouts. While the Germans have the advantage with tanks a bit.

The German ASSAULT loadout of class LVL IX is the ultimate one - STG44+satchel, great against both infantry at almost any range and tanks.

[ashen basin]

Yiiis STG and my satchel

[gusty river]

alr

[analog apex]

Also, the Germans have the best MG... as it was in WWII too - MG42.

a lot of ammo and a high cadence no other MG has

[ashen basin]

No Russian best mg

Jk it's a pos you kill 3 enemy's and u reloading hahaha buuut it is rly fun

MG42 kill 3 enemy gun still full of Ammo haha

[analog apex]

yep,... despite it shouldn't be as it has a drum of 50 rounds
despite that the game gives us like 250

[ashen basin]

Or the British bc then u won't see the enemy bloody useless British garbage 🙄

Irony is I'm British lmao

[analog apex]

the British weapons are usually the worst in any WWII game... no way to cheat the history 😬

[ashen basin]

[covert elbow]

Germany and it’s not even a question

[covert elbow]

People just don’t like them because their bolt actions haha

The Brit’s actually have really good weapons it’s just nobody likes them because they aren’t modern enough

And as mentioned before the Brit’s prioritize the bolt action so they don’t have as many SMG’s and MG’s

[languid hornet]

New here, so not sure if this is the right place to post, but kinda proud of this meme post to support the MG42 community:

https://www.reddit.com/r/HellLetLoose/s/xLXGztyCu5

[analog apex]

Sten sucked

[languid hornet]

Don't think I can post pics, which is the post.

[covert elbow]

Sten was a fantastic weapon what do you mean

[analog apex]

it jammed when attempting to kill Heydrich with it 😬

[covert elbow]

Okay? All weapons jam

[analog apex]

wasn't the Sten more jammy than the others?

[covert elbow]

No?

[analog apex]

I swear I read or heard it somewhere

[covert elbow]

I’ve never heard that before

[grizzled pelican]

Well, thats quite unfortunate

[ashen basin]

Can check out #hll-memes

[languid hornet]

Gotcha, thanks!

[analog apex]

"Sten guns of late 1942 and beyond were highly effective weapons, though complaints of accidental discharge continued throughout the war."
😄

"accidental discharge"... never heard this one before though

[finite berry]

Lee-Enfield is such a good rifle :( it's such a shame that stuff like the MLE and the K98k are so underrated due to the historically inaccurate overabundance of automatic weapons

[finite berry]

I like the idea of the Sten. "We need a cheap replacement for the Thompson. Here is a spring, a metal tube and a magazine, have fun."

[covert elbow]

Yep. It’s a pretty serious issue with the game

But it’s necessary because the weapons in game suck

If there was actual handling and suppression more accurate loadouts could be introduced but as is it’s not a good idea

[analog apex]

they could simply add more loadouts that would be a copypaste of SMG loadouts, just with these bolting action rifles... I would definitely take in on many occasions despite generally underpowered

or... the custom loadouts slot, within some restrictions ofc

but the option should be there - they were the standard issue after all

[covert elbow]

You say that but then your fighting 15 SMG’s and 25 semi-auto’s on the enemy team

The games simply not built with bolt actions in mind

[analog apex]

maybe but there are times now and then when I like to play with bolting rifles only

...just for a challenge

the option should be there for the historical sake though

[finite berry]

Not anymore or never was?

[covert elbow]

Not ever

[finite berry]

And what changed?

[covert elbow]

Nothing haha

That’s the issue. The devs never improved the bare bones and basic gunplay of the alpha and beta

And bolt actions are just… bad because of it

That’s why we have more SMG’s and Semi-autos the bolt actions in game

[analog apex]

+the bolt-action rifles are problematic with the hitreg that got so much worse over time - no time to fast re-do the shot to go around the bad hitreg

[covert elbow]

That’s a general issue but yes another major flaw

[finite berry]

Ah, misunderstood your first message 😄

[frank walrus]

Goood morning

[eager crypt]

I so very wish this game would see a complete revamp of its gunplay and class system so we can have a more cohesive and challenging/rewarding experience.

[covert elbow]

That’s never going to happen sadly

The only way that happens is with a complete relaunch of the game

[eager crypt]

When casuals started flooding the game and complaining about how unfair it was to play Germans with bolt actions vs US with semi-auto rifles, BM answer for « balancing » was just sprinkling more semi autos and SMGs left and right…

[eager crypt]

Yup, this is definitely wishful thinking and totally agree with you it’ll never happen. Not worth the effort and risk of alienating the playerbase. We’ve seen what happened with Squad and the ICO 😅

[covert elbow]

Tbh I wish that’s what would happen to HLL. The ICO update I mean

The game just has way to many conflicting views and game mechanics it needs to go in one direction

[novel geyser]

I would really love some improvements to the gunplay
Even if it's small compared to ico
Mainly I'd love them to get rising storm 2s gunplay

[eager crypt]

Literally what me and many others who’ve been here since EA have clamored. But the majority of the playerbase for this game is not interested in realism. They see this as what BFV should have been and already think it’s a « hardcore milsim » lol
And the new devs have that in common with BM: they’ll do anything to keep the casuals around.

[covert elbow]

More money more casuals

[covert elbow]

The “hardcore MilSim” tag needs to go. It’s neither hardcore nor MilSim

[eager crypt]

Once upon a time, devs built games based on their vision and stuck with it rather than compromise left and right to appease the masses

[covert elbow]

It’s a bit tougher because of the OHK’s and “resource management” but other then that’s it’s more Arcady then battlefield

[novel geyser]

I'd call it hard-core mainly for it's damage
But I'd never call it a milsim I'd you'd believe it

[covert elbow]

I really don’t know why this game took such a drastic turn

[covert elbow]

Lmao

[eager crypt]

You said it earlier: money and going with the flow.

[covert elbow]

Yea

BM are some of the greatest scam artist’s of the 21st century haha

Got a buttload of money selling the game and then getting what… over $50 million for the game itself?

[eager crypt]

BM already had the money of early backers with promises of hardcore realism. Once that was pocketed, they just flip-flopped to make the game more casual and accessible.

[novel geyser]

I'm happy with hll being more casual that the likes of squad but they never actually committed to that, they just left the game underbaked and called it casual

[eager crypt]

Yeah: that’s gotta be the biggest catfish in history 🤣

[novel geyser]

Black matter renaming the company and now making a hunt showdown ripoff

[eager crypt]

This game could have been the new Red Orchestra, if only the devs had higher expectations and more vision for their product.

[novel geyser]

And the skills to actually program
I have no doubts that a lot of their initial vision was just too big for their boots

[covert elbow]

It looks so bad haha

[covert elbow]

Absolutely

They should have started small but they went way to big

In more ways then one

[ashen basin]

What a load of bollocks.

Have you even seen what they are making. Have you seen how many projects they are working on.

BM isn't nearly as bad as the way people claim

[covert elbow]

No they absolutely were

Were you here when they developed HLL?

[finite berry]

He joined 2017, so I assume he was

[covert elbow]

2021*

I would assume not from that statement though

[novel geyser]

Black matter were bad
They refused to improve upon the game after they lost the passion for it, only added things some that have no real place in how the game currently plays

[finite berry]

Whoops, yep. Still too tired xD

[novel geyser]

Anyways
What are people's thoughts on support getting the flame thrower
I always thought it was a strange choice, I would've given it to engineer or assault or something

[covert elbow]

Same exact thoughts

Giving it to support, and making it level 8, is baffling

Much rather they replaced the level 9 loadout for assault with it

[ashen basin]

The week after launch and I speak to the devs regularly good friends now

[covert elbow]

The BM devs?

[ashen basin]

Yea

[covert elbow]

Well that makes sense now haha

[arctic rampart]

I can't but laugh at normies on youtube posting shorts on how a "proper sniper" in HLL just sits at arty, whilst they get 3 kills and that's all xD

[ashen basin]

Yes they are a small team of like 30 and not the most experienced ever but they made the game and it ran well. Sure it had issues but I bet u can't name a game without any problems even from more experienced devs out there...

[covert elbow]

This game has way to manny issues for that excuse to work here

[arctic rampart]

By problems you mean gameplay problems or actual bugs?

[covert elbow]

They made the big game and didn’t bother to solve their issue’s and threw more wood on the fire

[analog apex]

both, the game has plenty of both

[covert elbow]

If they actually cared for the game they wouldn’t have released it in such a sorry state and then do nothing about it

[arctic rampart]

I'd say Portal 2 is up there. Maybe with minor issues at the very launch

[worthy charm]

Or made that console Cash crab...

[covert elbow]

That might have been T17

But geniually who knows

anyways I know I’m not going to pay attention to BM’s new game at all considering what HLL is

[ashen basin]

U know T17 rushed el al to launch when bm said it wasn't ready..

How many updates did t17 launch with poor management lol

While owning the game

[arctic rampart]

All?

[worthy charm]

Tbf all the work that was done was BMs.

[ashen basin]

Nope not quite bc skirmish was launched pretty well but I can't explan in detail why

[ashen basin]

And cover 6

[worthy charm]

So the bad balancing, empty maps and the Firefly...

[covert elbow]

Sure but what about the flamethrower? Halftrack? Kharkov? Console release? Actual release of the game?

If this is all a case of T17’s overreach as a publisher I wouldn’t be suprised but we’ve had no information behind the games relationship

[worthy charm]

Are there problems with the flamethrower

[covert elbow]

It exists

[summer grove]

I've been playing for 3 weeks and seen 2 flamethrowers

[covert elbow]

That’s more then I’ve seen in over a year

[gentle lintel]

Crickey! Look at that wild flamethrowa out there, super rare, a real beaut

[ashen basin]

Gritzen the dev of Kkov said it still needs to have some updates but he's no longer with us

[gentle lintel]

You could appreciate that @midnight nacelle ❤️

[ashen basin]

🔥

[covert elbow]

He’s the dev that passed away right?

[ashen basin]

No

[analog apex]

huuuh?! 😮

[ashen basin]

That guy was t17 i forgot his name now..

Gritz has moved on somewhere else sorry for the confusion

James light is the guy

[vocal imp]

ello

[ashen basin]

So yeah James was t17 QA

[covert elbow]

Then why’d you say it like that???

[ashen basin]

Is gritz here

Working on the game? No so he's not here ....

[covert elbow]

You say “no longer with us” when somebody’s died not when they leave a studio

[ashen basin]

Why do Americans say sidewalk and us British say path...

Just a way of speech lol

[covert elbow]

That’s a very different situation lmao

[ashen basin]

Sure that's your opinion.

[covert elbow]

Not really

Anyways yea. BM and T17 have not been good devs for this kind of game

[ashen basin]

Right so when u give BM abuse why not T17 too?

If you have those issues then why only target the OG team

[covert elbow]

Oh I do. I just don’t like BM more

[analog apex]

I dislike T17 more

• it was possible to always talk about the stuff/features with the BM devs directly and get their honest opinions - but trying to do that with Team17 has been like talking to a wall on the other hand
• in case of Team17 we are talking just with CM(s) here on top of it and not with the devs directly either

[ashen basin]

Well let's at least be honest.

Both dev teams want the best and try..

Always remember issues are ALWAYS management

Devs just sit and do as they are told

Management manage resources

[novel geyser]

If we are ragging on BM we don't have to also do the same with t17 lol

[ashen basin]

This bug not fixed well management need to tell devs go fix this.....

[ashen basin]

Bc raging helps nobody

[novel geyser]

T17 has mismanaged things
But I'm sick of people pretending black matter were perfect

[ashen basin]

They weren't perfect but who is

[analog apex]

Both dev teams want the best and try..
depends on what the "best" they consider as - best for the money it has been with Team17, so for the game or us it is actually bad

[analog apex]

BM was far from perfect, but when having BM and T17 on weights, BM always comes out better in my eyes - not on an absolute scale ofc, but in relation to T17, always

[ashen basin]

In no way am I ever going to disrespect Greg or ben, t17s idea to get rid of wombat always infuriates me.

She's in a really good position now so don't worry about her 😉 but still upsets me though

[analog apex]

I have no idea why they did it tbh... just to hire another full-time CM sometime later in the end anyway.

[novel geyser]

The way I look at it
BM was very comfortable leaving the game how it was,
T17 has tried to expand things as far as we know and hit the wall of spaghetti code breaking a lot
BM realised their ambitions were to bold and gave up on the initial vision
While T17 had big plans but got hit by dodgy code, bluder after blunder and then company layoffs

[ashen basin]

RIGHT these 100% my issue

[novel geyser]

Wombat got done by a company wide layoff
From what I'm aware it was just going to be PR layoffs but expanded into the actual devs too
The HLL team dropped to like 20 people or so from 50 I believe the number was

[analog apex]

BM's plans was to expand too - if by T17's expansion you meant the SKIRMISH, let's not forget that BM had the CAMPAIGN on its last roadmap

which was a better way to go imo - nobody asked for the SKIRMISH anyway (some people wanted just the shorter matches and that could have been easily done by giving the admins an ability to set the max match duration for the matches in their servers)

[novel geyser]

Let's be real campaign would have probably been bad unless they made new modes for it
T17s original road map was very ambitious

[analog apex]

they had scratched it even before the lay-offs, had they not?
so imo - it was the same ambition like BM devs had when it comes to promised and not delivered stuff

[novel geyser]

We can't know for sure but I believe t17 had a lot of things internally they wanted to implement to the base game to expand mechanics and gameplay but the layoffs and probably development issues got in the way

They scrapped the original road map after the u14 trailer

[ashen basin]

Both teams are too small for a campaign i think. They need resources to bug bash and content realise and if they do a campaign it will slow down the main game far too much

Could be wrong but that's just how I see it

[novel geyser]

We never actually got to see a full on content update before that roadmap was scrapped

[analog apex]

yep, the trailer and not after the layoffs if I remember correctly

so those lay-offs have had nothing to do with their big original roadmap being scrached away

that roadmap had a pretty short lifespan overall

[novel geyser]

I don't think I ever said the layoffs were responsible for that

[ashen basin]

Also remember a road map is NOT a this is what we gonna be adding list.

When you follow a GPS in your car what u gonna do if u come across a complete roadblock

[novel geyser]

They re evaluated what to do after that, scaling things down likely to get used to updating this game before going big, but then layoffs started happening

[analog apex]

roadblock is something the driver can't control
but what's happening inside a dev team, that dev team decision-wise and their leadership has it under their control
a big difference

[novel geyser]

My theory atleast

[ashen basin]

Same concept though

[novel geyser]

I don't think t17 has been perfect, they've made poor decisions but also done things I quite like. I'm just in the belief they had some of the worst luck when it came to this game

[analog apex]

nope - Team17's problems came from their inside, not from objective problems leading in from the outside like a "roadblock" could be for a driver

[ashen basin]

Wasn't referring to just t17 but I disagree anyway

[analog apex]

what do you like of the stuff they added? Just curious, I am not trying to bait you, I don't meant it aggressively - just would like to know.

because no matter what they added, had always a sour taste at the very least in my opinion

broken updates and each feature they added, broken or buggy as well - cosmetic presets (not showing what actually selected), weather system (hard flickering fog), quality of DLC uniforms/helmets (remember the plastic cap xD)...

[covert elbow]

Elsenborne is a pretty good map. And the new freelook is good, although obviously made by someone in their free time

Mortain I cannot say because I’ve played that map like 3 times

[analog apex]

with a lot of new assets that have yet very bad hitboxes

[covert elbow]

And I don’t think they’ve added anything else

[covert elbow]

Also that

Elsenbornes layout is good but it’s poorly made

[ashen basin]

Free look is sooo pointless

ER isn't my cupa tea

[analog apex]

hence the sour taste I mentioned

[covert elbow]

It’s pretty obvious that T17 are not the devs for this kind of game

Who would have thought the worms devs would struggle in an FPS

[covert elbow]

Freelook is very useful and a staple of “MilSim” games

[ashen basin]

It's not t17 developing the game though they higher a company

[covert elbow]

It’s yet another feature the game should have shipped with

[covert elbow]

It’s T17

[ashen basin]

Of wich hll isn't

[covert elbow]

They made the studio making the game

[covert elbow]

That’s what it was supposed to be when it launched

Just ask the devs

[analog apex]

right I forgot to mention the free look - the angles are very restrictive and we can see the holes in our arms when looking sideways at the same time, another broken/buggy one

[ashen basin]

Regardless... it isn't rn

[analog apex]

still, useful for MGs so we don't need to un-bipod when we want to look around

[covert elbow]

Okay that’s not what I said

I said it’s something the game should have released with

[ashen basin]

Right so if freelook was added for launch the your points would be valid but the game is several years old not 1 second has it been millsim and now t17 added it...

[covert elbow]

Considering it was litteraly made in 2 devs spare time I’m not suprised

[covert elbow]

Did you not read what I said

[ashen basin]

Sadly yes 😄

[covert elbow]

I said it should have been there at launch when the game released. I.e. when the game was supposed to be a more tactical shooter. It was something that should have been added at launch as standard

Idk what the games become it’s what it should have been when they said it was

[ashen basin]

So what's the point in your comment

[covert elbow]

Nevermind Jesus Christ

[covert elbow]

Also for keeping still when you don’t want to be seen

It’s nice not having to move your entire body just to see to your right

[novel geyser]

More of things they changed not a lot but small things I think improve the game
Removing prone jumping, making vaulting a little smoother
The British rework is very good
I'm quite fond of the el alamein rework and elsenborne is a nice map

[night lark]

I just havent ever used free look 😂 had to.unbind it because it clashed with anothrr key binding

[covert elbow]

Oh yea the El Al rework was a good addition

[novel geyser]

I've also not gotten the grenade bug or loadout bug since their initial fixes, something black matter failed to do

[covert elbow]

That’s the main issue of free look. They didn’t plan to add it so it clashes with key binds and controller buttons. And because we can’t customize our settings it’s just… there

[ashen basin]

That wasn't even bound for me...

I used it for 1 thing then unbound it again.

Wanted the achievement to die while fre looking

[night lark]

You can customise you key bindings

[novel geyser]

I just don't get the hype for freelook tbh
Never use it

[covert elbow]

Maybe on PC but not on console

[covert elbow]

I have to remind myself it’s there most of the time tbh

[night lark]

Mate even when i play squad and S44 i never use it. Its just not something thay occurs to me

[covert elbow]

But it’s good QOL

[novel geyser]

Most things these days I'm not a fan of t17 doing is that attempt at cosmetic restrictions with divisions, worst way they could have done it
And making standard issue uniforms paid dlc

[analog apex]

• in the vaulting animation overhaul that got rid of prone jumping, they broken the vaulting and ever since then we can pretty often see players teleport high above the vaulting point for a split of a second - they did one good thing at a big expense of the other
• and yet they haven't been able to fix all of the misaligned British gunsights
• Elsenborne a good map but wit ha lot of assets with bad hitboxes as mentioned

Every thing you like was just a trade-off for something else bad or worse or half-baked at the very least. 😕

[night lark]

I think free look is in Scum, special branch and RoN and i never use it 😂

[ashen basin]

Sure it can help time to time but meh and devs time could of been put to better use

[finite berry]

I often use it. It looks cool and when hiding in a bush, you are less visible compared to turning your entire body.

[covert elbow]

The hair…..

How they managed to screw up the cosmetics and hair will forever not fail to make me laugh

[night lark]

Its effort to find a good keybinding for it. All the usual suspect keys are assinged to other things

[covert elbow]

It was made in their spare time

[novel geyser]

Can't say I've noticed any issues with the new vaulting tbh
And hitboxes on assets have been terrible since black matter days, Danny claimed it wouldn't be possible to fix them because of bandwidth or something

Which I call bs

[ashen basin]

I think only Arma III and star citizen is where I use it

[covert elbow]

Ah the old “out of our control excuse”

That’s why I say BM is worse than T17. They never claimed fault

[novel geyser]

They really liked that one

[covert elbow]

“It’s always some other issue that’s out of our control that’s causing bugs, not us!”

[novel geyser]

Like saying they couldn't change how the strong points are picked because it's "hard coded"

[covert elbow]

How tf did you make the game then

It takes 2 seconds of thought to realize the BS

[analog apex]

yep, this was a good one 🤣

was a pretty cheap excuse

[covert elbow]

It also shows their just bad devs

[novel geyser]

BM always had an excuse which is a big reason I'm not a fan of them

[covert elbow]

If you can’t fix the game because the game won’t allow it, you’ve made a bad game

[covert elbow]

And it was never their fault

[ashen basin]

Bad devs bc they can't please everyone lmfao I dare u to try

[analog apex]

☝️ this
the game didn't code itself by itself, did it heh

[covert elbow]

At least T17 had the decency to admit their mistakes. Kinda

[covert elbow]

Not what I said at all

[novel geyser]

Can't forget famous quotes from max like
"Building the plane as it flies"

[covert elbow]

At this point I’m 99% sure your just trolling dude

[novel geyser]

Couldn't be a better representation of BM

[covert elbow]

“I can’t play the game because I see to many issues”

[analog apex]

but having a reason to keep doing it at every update's occasion has been bad, undermining any kind of trust in them

[covert elbow]

Yea

[analog apex]

it's been too much of apologising

and promising that stupid mistakes won't repeat... and yet they do, over and over each update (or even patch)

[covert elbow]

Genuinely just open this game to modders and watch it come back like S:44

[novel geyser]

Has there been much beef with the past few updates
I havent kept a close eye on them
Mortain had the divisions thing but what about elsenborn

[analog apex]

yup, SQ44 keeps its numbers relatively low, but the modders keep it alive as well as the devs who show that they do care and they communicate with the playerbase directly, not just through a CM

[covert elbow]

They’ve made it so they just release $12 bundles with themed cosmetics now

[novel geyser]

I'd honestly be plating s44 more but it runs terribly compared to hll which I find surprising

[covert elbow]

But the whole divisions thing is dead in the water

[covert elbow]

I just wish it was on console

[novel geyser]

Yeah lol

[covert elbow]

Man I wish we had that

[novel geyser]

Idk what they were thinking with divisions

[covert elbow]

Also where the **** is the roadmap

[ashen basin]

Just wait and see

[covert elbow]

Like if it’s taking this long I’m no longer excited because I know it’s going to be barebones and not good

[novel geyser]

Building the road as we drive on it

[covert elbow]

What I want to see is a stop to new content and just map refreshes, overhauls to gameplay, and reworks of existing mechanics

[oak current]

Divisions? Wut? 👀

[covert elbow]

That’s my 2025 roadmap

[novel geyser]

My assumptions for future updates is still two soviet maps after juno

[novel geyser]

Their pitiful attempt at cosmetic restrictions

[covert elbow]

Remember when Mortain released and they had map specific cosmetics but got yelled at because they locked them behind a $12 paywall?

That was “Divisions”

[novel geyser]

And they were presets you couldn't change also

[covert elbow]

Yea

[oak current]

oh the DLC-packs for one map only

[novel geyser]

12 bucks for preset cosmetics on one map

[covert elbow]

It was just stupidly implemented

[analog apex]

ok, that would mean the 2 maps for the whole 2026 xD

[oak current]

forgot it had a name

[covert elbow]

Not even that good as wel

They need to get the guy who did the winter M43 in charge of cosmetics because that was really good while the others have been awful

That Patton helmet is litteraly just a Chinese repro they scanned in

[novel geyser]

Divisions are still in the barracks but they honestly should just get rid of that tab
Dead weight

[covert elbow]

And no more content after that because their only going till 2026 haha

[covert elbow]

Yes. Also bring back class descriptions

They needed to be condensed but just getting rid of them was sad

[novel geyser]

#1259880993959972884
Still relevant

[analog apex]

yep, as many other stuffs

[covert elbow]

Most of your suggestions are haha

I need to make some more tbh

[novel geyser]

I do it to yell into the void

Though that being said some suggestions have made it into the game
Mainly freelook but people wouldn't stop nagging for that

[covert elbow]

Like one or two out of a thousand

[analog apex]

imo they added it just because it was possible to do it easy, fast and in a cheap way

[novel geyser]

Yeah lol

[analog apex]

where they don't see any cheap way, they just don't do it

[covert elbow]

And may I remind you they didnt plan to add it. It was made by 2 devs in their free time

So T17 didn’t actually make it

[analog apex]

and probably during one weekend 😄

[covert elbow]

Maybe haha

I’m thankful they added it but it’s so unfinished I can’t give to much praise

[analog apex]

same here - it is useful, but badly implemented due holes in arms and too strict camera angles restrictions

[covert elbow]

There’s still to many things wrong with it

[novel geyser]

Well we atleast know they can add a new system to the game
Next up basic gun mechanics

[analog apex]

damn... when I think about it this way, I fear if they are capable of delivering the mortars and heavy MG emplacements at all 🥶

[novel geyser]

Heavy HMGs*

[analog apex]

yep, I changed the roding to MG emplacements

like tripods for MGs or pre-building them on a player-built barricade or inside a player-built bunker (or even in/on non-player-built assets)

[novel geyser]

Yeye ik
Bm called them heavy hmgs on their roadmap is all

Mounted machine guns would be neat
But better if shooting people wasn't as easy

I always forget the half track mgs are usable
The animations for them are still terrible

[analog apex]

and that's why just very few people know that we can actually use A and D to rotate further than just with mouse, on the US halftrack MG 😄

[novel geyser]

...

I didn't even know that lmaaooo

I just thought it was super restricted

[analog apex]

yep it is... if you don't rotate it with A or D heh

[novel geyser]

That's like
Medic gives suppression resistance level of hidden mechanics

[covert elbow]

cough cough

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1338730908525789305

HMG’s aren’t even worth it though with how the game works

[analog apex]

yep, but imo the MGs should be excluded from that suppression removal/limiting - because the MGs were suited just for that, to suppress a larger amount of people next to each other

In HLL, when more squadmates and medic are together, they are suppressed less. Wrong.

[novel geyser]

Suppression in general should be better

[covert elbow]

The benefit of HMG’s would be more ammo and not having to barrel change but as of now it’s not even an issue in game

[analog apex]

added

[covert elbow]

Also that. No point in having a stationary weapon when suppression doesn’t matter

[covert elbow]

Hell yea

[novel geyser]

One thing I want is to have suppression scale depending on your situation
So if you're soloing in enemy territory you get suppressed very easily compared to being with your squad

[analog apex]

hoenstly I missed that post... probably because I was still playing KCD2 back then

[covert elbow]

[novel geyser]

Anything to encourage teamwork and discourage soloing

[covert elbow]

Also making it so suppression takes away your HUD and pings would be amazing

[novel geyser]

Because for a game that tries to make a big deal out of teamwork
You can basically do everything solo

[covert elbow]

I have a few more posted

[novel geyser]

One man behind enemy lines clearing garrisons and winning the game because of it is bad

[covert elbow]

It’s actually better to solo tbh

Having one guy take out all your stuff us more valuable then a whole squad

[covert elbow]

Also why I hate recon

[novel geyser]

Garrison loop is terrible and needs a change

[covert elbow]

It’s just bad design to give someone infinite spawns like they do now

[analog apex]

I would say that to limit a suppression effect, there should be some order available for infantry SLs, for their squads - SUPPRESSIVE FIRE - would cause the outgoing fire to suppress the enemy much more, while HEADS DOWN would make the incoming suppression from the enemy to be weaker.

with cooldowns after like 3 usages ofc, to avoid the spam

[novel geyser]

Would be interesting

[covert elbow]

Could easily depend on the soliders position for how effective suppression is. Like if your behind a rock or wall getting directly shot at your fully suppressed but if your safe in a trench the effect is lessened

Oh wait the SL having an ability?

[analog apex]

yes

[covert elbow]

Ehhhhh maybe? Could be interesting to play with

[novel geyser]

Also I'm pretty sure suppression currently only kicks in if a bullet lands near you
I've been shot at before and not known if it was stray shots because the suppression just didn't kick in

[analog apex]

could use the same UI like the CMD's call-ins - on the right side of the tacMap, but the orders there would be just for his squad

I would see it very easy to implement therefore

[covert elbow]

Honestly might just be because of hitreg or some other game issue

But yea if you get shot at you need some visual feedback to alert you

Something to get you scared and running for cover

[covert elbow]

That’s definitely a unique idea. Kinda goes into the more RTS inspirations HLL had

Also side note only SL’s should have maps and should actually pull out a physical map to read it

[pine ember]

Where do you have the info from that they are only going till 2026?

[shadow badge]

pls add the Battle of Berlin map

[covert elbow]

Greg said it himself

Wait

#mess-hall message

Looks like I had it messed up. They have current plans up to 2026 but want to go further

[finite berry]

Can't wait for the 2026 roadmap

[worthy charm]

-# mad german mumbleing

[novel geyser]

Anyone having maps is quite useful
I don't mind this game remaining somewhat casual
It just needs some better mechanics
I always felt squad leaders should only see the ping distance tho or something
Would make spotters for snipers more useful in yknow
Spotting

[covert elbow]

Yea

[novel geyser]

Sight adjusting is a big must along with fire modes and persistent magazines and ammo checking

[analog apex]

yep, like they used to do in the alpha/beta times (all players did back then)

[covert elbow]

I remember seeing some images of it. Shame they got rid of it

[novel geyser]

Hard coded out of the game 😢

[short niche]

thats.... jesus

random squads are dead after that

[covert elbow]

That’s kind of the point

[short niche]

you wanna cut the branch... get rid of the population who playss the game as background task?

[covert elbow]

But taking away the map from everyone is a bit harsh I admit. But maps should absolutely be physical especially since it’s already in the files

[short niche]

i play with friends and ive only been in random squads like 5 times but oh god if i had to rely on them for map id just grenade myself

[short niche]

gentleman! the united states army is having budget cuts we can only afford a single map every squad!

[shadow badge]

pls add the Battle of Berlin map

[novel geyser]

Know I hear if you keep asking for the same thing over and over it will magically appear

[covert elbow]

True!

[novel geyser]

Add Italians add subfactions !

Yknow if my theory of two new Eastern front maps after juno beach is right
One might be Berlin

[pine ember]

What do you think will be the second?

I think they will make more 1942-43 maps

[novel geyser]

Maybe another stalingrad map or some rural battle

Not sure if they're even at the phase of planning maps for those yet tho

All we have for juno is an early tac map draw over it seems

[pine ember]

I think theyll add another Stalingrad map and something like Kholm maybe

[short niche]

cant wait for turkey 1945 faction (it will bring a lot of player in trust me)

[pine ember]

What

[novel geyser]

I am hoping for another stalingrad map
I really would love to see the grain elevator or more factory districts with a more unique layout
Exposed sewer routes, cqc building combat and the like

[pine ember]

Oh yes, that would be awesome

Or Kharkov city centre

[novel geyser]

With the way tobruk looks with some more interesting point design than just 90% open fields, i think it's in their power

They might even do Poland or Warsaw or something

[pine ember]

They said that back in 2023

[novel geyser]

I mean soviets in poland

Not the German invasion of Poland

[pine ember]

Ahhh

Maybe, who knows

[novel geyser]

There's a lot they could do

I get the feeling if they do can further development past 2026 Berlin may be the final map
It would be fitting

[pine ember]

Yes, but I hope they support the game for a few years more

[novel geyser]

Same

[wind shore]

Wdym final

At game at all?

And after they will make new HLL?

[novel geyser]

Lol no
There will never be a hll2 I guarantee

If they don't do any more updates past 2026 there'd be a final update and that's it
But we don't know if that will happen because they want to update past 2026

[wind shore]

2026 it’s final you think

Why 2026? Not 2025 or 2027

[pine ember]

Greg said so, there are plans until 2026, and after that there arent any plans yet

[cyan saddle]

They may have some ideas on what they want to do in 2026 and beyond, but nothing concrete. The focus for now is 2025, and towards the later half of the year it's time to start reflecting and thinking about what's further ahead

[pine ember]

Just give us an Eastern Front map that is something like Carentan or SMDM, pops up in server rotations and maybe even comp scene, and a German eastern front subfaction

[novel geyser]

Me want caen also

For brits

[wind shore]

Caen is better than Juno i think

[wind shore]

i hope it will come after the Brits 😉 2 US maps- Elsenborn and Mortain, 2 British - Tobruk and ? , and next could be Eastern front

[midnight nacelle]

The Churchill Crocodile is a Flamethrower Tank! 🔥 🐊

[turbid meteor]

Team17 fix your anti cheat!

[wind shore]

again cheaters?

[turbid meteor]

2 times already today

[wind shore]

i think cheaters should go in ban forever and blocking list , from account they cheating

so will be a lesson when they will lost the game

[wind shore]

and near city mall it's located as i remember, also cool would be see PPS-43 pipe guns and PPD-40

[gloomy crown]

Hi it's been almost a month now "finalising" the roadmap. Does that mean we can expect it soon or will it be pushed to Q2 or something?

[wind shore]

Nobody knows it

[pine hemlock]

hi

[runic osprey]

Hi

[pine hemlock]

i need help with the game

[runic osprey]

Wdym

[pine hemlock]

how can i open a ticket or smth

[runic osprey]

But what's the problem

[pine hemlock]

i have 2 GPUs (dedicated and integrated) but my game wont use the integrated (good one), and is the only game that this happens

[runic osprey]

Ye

You should go to support vc

Cuz I'm not into computers

[pine hemlock]

what is the avg waiting time

[runic osprey]

Idk

[pine hemlock]

can i ping someone

[tulip perch]

Clown would be the best person to ask... Dude is an absolute genius when it comes to PC issues

[pine hemlock]

he is online

?