mess-hall

[arctic rampart]

I forgot the name of the show, but there was the one with the big tower in the middle. Like a dungeon and the white haired guy.
That has its last episodes just come out iirc

[proven dagger]

Danmachi (Is it wrong to pick up girls in a dungeon)

good show

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, the story was pretty cool.

But it's actually diabolical to see these names and then actually have some valid stuff underneath

[proven dagger]

the long name animes are peak, either because they're complete dumpster fires you can't look away from or they're actually good.

[thorny acorn]

fck anime just watch metal gear summary videos

[proven dagger]

i am simple man

anime has witch, i am sold

[arctic rampart]

Just like HS:DXD. Like yeah, there's エッチ stuff, but the story's peak

[arctic rampart]

I watched Warcraft 3 lore from start to finish

[thorny acorn]

i watched the darkwood video

[thorny acorn]

lol

[proven dagger]

there are a few other pretty good series I watched recently like Delicious Dungeon.

Violet Evergarden is also something I can always reccomend.

[thorny acorn]

evangelion

[proven dagger]

My mind is easily jumbled trying to reccomend stuff off the top of my head because I watch basically every seasonal anime even the trash. I'm cooked.

Somebody has to suffer so you don't have to.

[thorny acorn]

thx but no thx

i dont even watch animes

i just learned what ppl considered good by hating on it

[proven dagger]

nice

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, I kind of disliked them for a good period as well. Then once tried the titan one. Forgot the name off the top of my head, but anyways, thought it was the most scuffed thing ever. Story made 0 sense and I had to read subs whilst this creepy sheet happened on screen.

[thorny acorn]

attack on titan?

[arctic rampart]

Then got convinced to try out a few different ones a few years later by different people and then kind of started to dig them.

[arctic rampart]

yeah, that's the one

[thorny acorn]

yea idk i dislike the sound of japanese so if im watching it its dubbed

[arctic rampart]

I do the opposite xD
Can't stand dubbed, sounds sooo insanely off.

It's like the, memed on, Squid games dubbs

[proven dagger]

Attack on Titan is like universally praised and I personally don't like it at all. It has really good moments but the plot isn't really original like people say, nor is it as clever as people make it out to be.

[arctic rampart]

oh and the pirate one

One piece. The art style legit makes me 🤮

[proven dagger]

Dubs can be good, depends on the show. AOT actually has a really good dub.

[thorny acorn]

well english isnt my first language so a lot of cartoons i watched were dubbed so i kinda learned to ignore it lol

[arctic rampart]

Neither is it mine

[thorny acorn]

well then it depends on how much avatar the last airbender u watched

[arctic rampart]

ALOT

[thorny acorn]

bc i was living off that cartoon

[proven dagger]

uncle iroh my beloved

[thorny acorn]

iroh is the goat of fictional characters

[arctic rampart]

Best cartoon of all time, right up there with Adventure time and Regular Show

[thorny acorn]

idk never watched those, they werent dubbed, and little me didnt know english lol

[arctic rampart]

That's the way I learned it. Cartoons and games. Now people say I sound American or English...

Don't have that heavy Latvian accent

[thorny acorn]

i learned it thru penguins from madagascar bc that one was peak and somehow it wasnt dubbed

and jackfrags cant forget jackfrags

[arctic rampart]

Back in the day when jackfrags wasn't a sold out, donut glazing machine

[proven dagger]

i haven't watched jack since he was collabing with frankieonpc lmao

[arctic rampart]

OG's remember: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHC8KJNBtw8

[heady topaz]

how do i use my mic?

[arctic rampart]

C - squad, V - local, X - command chat when you're an SL/Commander

[arctic rampart]

If it doesn't work, have fun in https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271765113040408606

[misty belfry]

Bing bang boom 💥

[calm blade]

yeah i used to read the manga but had to drop it

[thorny acorn]

cod vs battlefield rap battle

it should be an epic rap battles of history

[calm blade]

@proven dagger are you a big anime watcher? track your stats at all?

[proven dagger]

I have an anime list with just under 1,200 entries. I don't keep it regularly updated just because it's time consuming.

[thorny acorn]

tryhards

ignore that i note everything on discogs

[calm blade]

oh wow this a lot. i religiously update mine because its fun

[arctic rampart]

I used to just watch stuff, but I did decide to not some shows, movies and animes in a excel sheet, since I got annoyed that people ask me "Hey have you seen X?" and I didn't remember if I'd watched it or not. Or those times when you watch something with more episodes and like 5+ seasons and then forget on which episode you were on

[proven dagger]

i am very much otaku. I watch basically every seasonal anime and collect anime mechandise like figures/books.

[calm blade]

awesomee

[thorny acorn]

u mean a weeb

[arctic rampart]

恥ずかしいですね。

[calm blade]

we should be friends haha

i would love to hear seasonal recs from you

[proven dagger]

idk weeb used to mostly be a derogotory term. it used to mean somebody unhealthily obcessed with japanese culture. Like if I was american and wished I was japanese and tried acting japanese etc.

[calm blade]

i have completed 424 entries

[thorny acorn]

yea i used it like that, no offense tho, joking, i dont know u i wont assume fr

[arctic rampart]

Did you see how 2 kick streamers got beaten up in Japan recently? Funniest sheet I've seen regards to there in a while

[proven dagger]

should have beaten them harder

[arctic rampart]

Had the same thought

[thorny acorn]

damn ppl actually watch kick streams

i thought it was only drama for commentary youtubers to milk on

[arctic rampart]

I don't understand watching any streams, if they're just ordinary streams

It's like massive down time inbetween anything worth watching

[proven dagger]

whats funny about that is if im remembering correctly they did some sh in japan and went to korea and got the crap beaten out of them even worse

[arctic rampart]

The exception being specific shows, like OTK's shark tank, but for games. Or Jermas The Sims replica show thingy.

[fickle knot]

Is there a possibility at some point we will be able to play as Japan?

[arctic rampart]

That was Johnny(?) somali, he got arrested in Korea yeah. But these 2 are different

[proven dagger]

maybe. not anytime soon. I hope not anyways

[arctic rampart]

If you #1098158460463480842 it, then yeah.

[thorny acorn]

i wouldnt exclude it, but i hope not

[arctic rampart]

Devs check #1098158460463480842 for what people would like to see, so just note that you're interested in the Pacific theatre of ww2

[thorny acorn]

i mean japan would be funny for explody stick

[thorny acorn]

isnt half of the server already doing that 😭

[arctic rampart]

Shush. You're new. You're not within the circle

ooh that was quick

[thorny acorn]

lil bro got hacked lol

[arctic rampart]

Guess the honeypot channel really does work

[thorny acorn]

honeypot is working

[arctic rampart]

Imagine clicking on that. Absolute normies lol

[thorny acorn]

ik about the pacific scheme

[arctic rampart]

It's clearly not a scheme, it's the best suggestion since "T17 please remove arty and gib mortar"

[thorny acorn]

mortars would actually be useful

[arctic rampart]

So would any single one of the other 500 things we discuss here daily. But instead we get "flamethrowers destroy ammo boxes"

[finite berry]

Where honey 🐝

wanna see 🐝 :D

[thorny acorn]

omg another one

[hoary yarrow]

[thorny acorn]

fortnite

[austere robin]

First server I found that allows you to do that

[pastel lotus]

Hell let loose is peak gaming.

I hope we eventually get a battle of Berlin map. Or, if the dev team is really up for it and considering making new models and vehicles, a pacific theatre set of maps

[thorny acorn]

well well well

[proven dagger]

try not to mention japan, impossible edition

[thorny acorn]

why is everyone glazing pacific so hard

[pastel lotus]

Cuz. Water

[thorny acorn]

u have water in europe too

[pastel lotus]

Yea but no boat

[proven dagger]

hell let loose, famous for its interactive water

[thorny acorn]

u got boat too

[pastel lotus]

I guess ur right with Omaha

[thorny acorn]

u got u boat also

[pastel lotus]

What map has the u boats?

Oh nvm I see

[left bronze]

h

[thorny acorn]

none but there were u boats in europe

[thorny acorn]

i

[pastel lotus]

Yea I figured that’s what you meant after a sec

Anyways I just wanna see more variety in maps. A lot of them in Europe are just forests so a big tropical set of islands could be a neat setting

Also it would bring new vehicles and weapons which would also be cool

[thorny acorn]

well thats true

[pastel lotus]

Imagine one of the duck boats or whatever they’re called

[left bronze]

is there a tech help channel or nah

[atomic pendant]

Username checks out!

[pastel lotus]

Or a map in the Philippines or china would give us some variety. We’ve kinda done everything in Europe save the battle of Berlin. Once we get a few Africa maps it seems the route to lead

[thorny acorn]

#1270189497719586908 probably

[finite berry]

There's lots of other unexplored fronts that are in Europe

[proven dagger]

i am not a japan stan because I would much rather have them represent italy and do something original. if they do add japan I would hope they basically completely ignore US representation.

[pastel lotus]

Finland could be cool.

[pastel lotus]

Italian alps or fighting in Greece could be good aswell

[finite berry]

cries in Italy
cries in Greece
cries in Poland
cries in France 1940
cries in Dieppe

Should I continue?

[thorny acorn]

poland, france, norway, balkan and the mess it had, ...

[pastel lotus]

I just said Greece 🙏😭

[proven dagger]

something something french cowards surrendered

[finite berry]

That meme is so dumb

[pastel lotus]

France is a good one.

[thorny acorn]

cries in croisant

[past veldt]

bro searches his own name in the discord 💀

[pastel lotus]

Oh I love ur vids I didn’t know you were here lol

[finite berry]

France was by far not weak, and their soldiers no cowards. In fact, it comes down to incredible luck that our invasion of France worked back then.

[proven dagger]

"bro shut up italy would be terrible they sucked in ww2 and wouldn't be fun"

"anyways so here is why you should add japan"

[thorny acorn]

bro got me into hll dont diss soul

[finite berry]

Battle of Stonne would be epic in HLL

[finite berry]

true lol

[proven dagger]

on god

[finite berry]

99% want to see Japan just because of the completely overrated banzai myth

[pastel lotus]

Ye the French fighting was a good portion of the start of the war. It was just the shock of blitzkrieg that took them out so quickly

[azure heath]

Soul is the unc of HLL

[thorny acorn]

or bc they are american

[finite berry]

Believe me, majority is because of Japan memes

[pastel lotus]

I just like tropical settings and water

[finite berry]

Which doesn't even exclude Americans

[azure heath]

Hear me out, Sicily

[pastel lotus]

Hear me out yes

[thorny acorn]

its the greedy americans wanting to see usa represented more

[finite berry]

Okay, so Mediterranean Sea it is

[lucid tusk]

The only way japan should be added is either through a sequel, paired with massive gameplay overhauls, or solely facing commonwealth forces in Burma

[pastel lotus]

Yes

Italians vs Greek would be great

[finite berry]

Leave me alone with Japan and USA, give me the Polish

[pastel lotus]

I’m just American so seeing America in more stuff would be cool. I’m not gonna hide my bias

But still Greece would be peak

[thorny acorn]

i shall forever dream of Chetniks/yugo partisans vs Ustase

[pastel lotus]

The polish would be cool. It just would be weird because the fighting in Poland was less traditional warfare so I guess we would just have to throw that out the window

[proven dagger]

it's just so funny to me the double standards and hypocrisy, especially with italy.

literally peoples main arguement would be that they're weak without ever being self aware that it's a game and the balancing and additions are not historically accurate or balanced

we really got the Panzer II L instead of literally any other tank

[finite berry]

I just want to larp "Jeszcze Polska nie zginęła. Niech żyje Polska!" while sitting there with my bolt-action rifle as PzKpfw IIs draw near

[pastel lotus]

“Ehhh Italy was weak we need historical accuracy!” goes to build a teleporting spawn point and make tanks appear out of thin air

[azure heath]

The Polish and the Finns would still be very cool imo, even if they have smaller map sizes (but the same gamemode)

[pastel lotus]

I agree

[thorny acorn]

we want poland for funny wz.35

[finite berry]

And to be fair, Italians fought very bravely

[azure heath]

thank you, that's why my family fought the germans

[pastel lotus]

We need more British rep

There’s like three maps or so with the British I swear

[proven dagger]

italy is terrible

literally produces one of the best submachineguns in the world, possibly ever

[azure heath]

we got tobruk, el al, driel, and Juno soon

[pastel lotus]

Elaborate

[pastel lotus]

So yea three and finally we are getting another

[thorny acorn]

the uhm

i forgor the name

[proven dagger]

beretta model 38

[pastel lotus]

Don’t they have a map in like the western front too?

[azure heath]

even though i'm italian, i gotta hand it to the finns with the suomi

so second best

[pastel lotus]

I’ve seen that gun before and never knew its name.

[thorny acorn]

nah the austrian hellriegel numero 1

[pastel lotus]

It literally had like three pictures 🙏😭

We don’t even know if it WAS good 🙏😭

[thorny acorn]

yea, im joking

[pastel lotus]

Mb mb satire over text is very hard to read

[finite berry]

Also yeah, add Italy to the Eastern Front

[thorny acorn]

true

[wintry thistle]

Luck was involved, but the French command was not at all prepared for the plan the Germans executed

[pastel lotus]

Blitzkrieg lowk wrecked the French

[finite berry]

French organisation was shite and the cooperation between the Western Allies was beyond pathetic, but still, our invasion should not have worked

[nova pivot]

Juno IS coming

[finite berry]

Plus, it was pure luck as well that France didn't just steamroll us why we were still in Poland

Jodl even said that in 1945 during the Nuremberg trials

[thorny acorn]

u got lucky u didnt see balkan rage fully

[wintry thistle]

I mean it did work, so what does that tell you?

[wintry thistle]

It wasn't pure luck. France never had any plans to go on the offensive in Germany

[pastel lotus]

Another Normandy map could be good

[wintry thistle]

It was complety out of the question. That's why when they attacked the Sarr they instantly left

[thorny acorn]

it would be cool to see the norwegian campain

[pastel lotus]

Tbh I’ve never really liked the African front maps. Just really open

[pastel lotus]

Yea Scandinavia in general is lacking in maps

[finite berry]

Yeah, they betrayed Poland

Jodl said in 1945: “The fact that we did not fail in 1939 was only due to the fact that during the Polish campaign the estimated 110 French and British divisions in the west were kept completely inactive against the 23 German divisions.”

[wintry thistle]

They did and always planned on too

[finite berry]

In numbers, ONE HUNDRED AND TEN divisions against TWENT YTHREE

The war could and should've ended right war

[thorny acorn]

yea africa is just sand like bru, Scandinavia would be way more interesting

[finite berry]

Would've been better for everyone

[pastel lotus]

Exactly. Plus, there’s no infrastructure in the African campaigns other than the camps, so it’s usually just a sniper fest

I wanna see more snow

[wintry thistle]

I'm not sure on the exact strength of the German divsions, but the Westwall was a thing. It wasn't going to be a walk in the park

[finite berry]

It wasn't only luck, Blitzkrieg tactics completely messed up the French, but the fact that it didn't fail was due to luck

[thorny acorn]

fr snow is the mans greatest invention

[finite berry]

If the Ruhr area would've fallen, it would've been game over for us. Our war economy was just desperately trying to pick up when the war started

Again, it should not have worked

[proven dagger]

my one supporting idea for japan is just the fact it would offer the chance to do something different with britan/india/australia. do something like Burma.

[finite berry]

It only did because of our superior tactics and leadership incompetence on the French side and appeasement on the British side

[proven dagger]

japan vs US is cringe

[wintry thistle]

Maneuver warfare succeeded because it was a better tactic. Germans were the inventors of modern maneuver warfare. They were much more competent than all their enemies for the entire early war

[pastel lotus]

Yea it doesn’t have to be American I just want pacific rep with the weapons and land from the area

[thorny acorn]

ill support pacific glazers if they convice the devs to add Coenders SMG

[finite berry]

Yes, but superior tactics can't compensate everything

[nova pivot]

No, it's the feet

[proven dagger]

if you want my genuine wish for japan do China vs Japan (never happening)

[wintry thistle]

Again i'm not sure if it would have fallen. Germany did have defenses along the French border

[pastel lotus]

I wanna see the battle of Iwo Jima or Burma

[thorny acorn]

man im starting to believe u have some weird fetish

[pastel lotus]

China vs Japan is my third pick for the battles in the pacific

[nova pivot]

Russian VS japanese

[finite berry]

The French literally entered German soil in 1939

[pastel lotus]

I want aussies, American, then Chinese

[wintry thistle]

And instantly left. The Sarr

[finite berry]

Yes, exactly

But so much for stronk defences

[pastel lotus]

I just really want the battle of Iwo Jima to be a map. I also really want duck boats.

[finite berry]

Completely overrated

[proven dagger]

im just tired of seeing the US faction in game, there wouldn't be enough to distinguish it enough from any other US faction.

[thorny acorn]

they should make hell let a little less looser as a ww1 prequel

[atomic pendant]

What's wrong with that? As a community owner, I try to keep tabs on community sentiment because I care.

[pastel lotus]

Like what if instead of supply trucks we had duck boats

[wintry thistle]

I don't believe the Sarr was a defended region. May have been a reason the French attacked it

[pastel lotus]

Yes

[finite berry]

Still overrated

[thorny acorn]

u got s44 so ...

[nova pivot]

Yes

[pastel lotus]

Idc if this is satire a ww1 game would be amazing

[pastel lotus]

I mean but. Waterrrrr

[finite berry]

It would be, but will never happen

[pastel lotus]

And. Flamethrowerrrre. And. Boat

[finite berry]

I'm bored and uninterested

[proven dagger]

the market for a WW1 game is extremely small, you see this with games like Isonzo and Beyond the Wire. It's a sad day when the most popular WW1 game is Battlefield 1.

[thorny acorn]

it would be, but dont be bf1 and exclude the ppl who started it please 🥺

[pastel lotus]

They didn’t have Austria Hungary? I swear the Italian maps had them

[thorny acorn]

i mean its one of the best bfs soo

[proven dagger]

isonzo and basically every one of their other ww1 games are on life support at this point

[nova pivot]

Spanish civil war 👇🎤🗣️

[atomic pendant]

Yep been here for years man. Glad you like the content. Cheers!

[thorny acorn]

serbia bruh

[thorny acorn]

yea :(

[pastel lotus]

I guess technically they did start the war cuz of that assassin huh

[thorny acorn]

isonzo got like 300 players

[pastel lotus]

Austria Hungary was the one to start the offensive

[nova pivot]

I think the guy was Bosnian

[thorny acorn]

nope

[nova pivot]

Gavrilo

[thorny acorn]

bosnians as a nation didnt exist back then

bosnia was a just land

[pastel lotus]

Oooo what if, and hear me out. We got a campaign set slightly ever so slightly before ww2 in the finish Russian war

[thorny acorn]

muslim serbs that were converted during ottomans created bosnia as a nation

[pastel lotus]

Wait

[nova pivot]

I don't know, the Balkans are weird, I'd rather not contradict you on anything.

[pastel lotus]

I lowk forgot the winter war was during ww2

I thought it was nov of 38 it started not 39

[proven dagger]

they already mentioned it, scrapped content

[pastel lotus]

They should bring it back one day.

[proven dagger]

maybe if they ever released the 2025 roadmap we'd know

lmao

[nova pivot]

Listen to this human

[thorny acorn]

yea we are, but for clarity young bosnia, the organization gavrilo princip was in, was fighting to free serbs in bosnia region

[proven dagger]

poland and finland were literally planned and they never came to reality

[thorny acorn]

so the Kingdom of Serbia could take that land

[foggy raft]

I need to send a picture, where? It's HLL related

[finite berry]

#off-topic-mess-hall

[pastel lotus]

Italy is my second most wanted front. Specially the Greek front

[nova pivot]

I don't have access to that

[thorny acorn]

2023 roadmap 😭

[finite berry]

Do you have a good gaming computer with a strong CPU?

[thorny acorn]

u need the role

[foggy raft]

No access... rip

[nova pivot]

Don't cry or I'll cry too

😭

[finite berry]

id:customize give yourself the off-topic role

[pastel lotus]

Nope I’m on Xbox

[finite berry]

Shame. Squad 44 already has the Crete invasion (Germany vs Greece) and is now getting Iwo Jima, coming out February 19th

Might've been interesting for you

[pastel lotus]

Damn. Squad 44 is something I’ve seen and if I ever get a gaming pc will be my first download

[thorny acorn]

do u think a ryzen5 5600x could handle s44

[nova pivot]

Thanks dude

[patent wagon]

Is anyone will to be my spotter

[thorny acorn]

what region?

[finite berry]

Is that a genuine question?

[patent wagon]

NA

[thorny acorn]

unlucky im in europe

[nova pivot]

It's far from Serbia

[thorny acorn]

yea

[finite berry]

I'll see if I can get an answer for you

[thorny acorn]

nvm im doing can i run it

[thorny acorn]

i got better than reccomended so im good

thx anyways

[finite berry]

Where did you check that?

[thorny acorn]

can i run it

can you run it actually

[pastel lotus]

I’m hungry bye guys

[thorny acorn]

this one https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri

[finite berry]

bye

[finite berry]

don't. those are severely outdated. The recommended and minimum specs recently got updated on Steam.

And let me tell you that you want to have recommended because at miminum, you can run the game, but it runs like shite

[thorny acorn]

dam

[finite berry]

imma ask for you

anyway, back to HLL-related stuff

[thorny acorn]

ill find it on steam

[frank walrus]

we need nebelwerfers

i wanna werf nebels

[thorny acorn]

the funny rocket launchers

[proven dagger]

panzer 38t now

[thorny acorn]

wz.35 now

and 2023 roadmap

[proven dagger]

unrealistic tank rework now

[thorny acorn]

well by the looks of it i just need to double my RAM

[signal knot]

I wish we had flamethrowers so I can really live the German dream

[thorny acorn]

there are flametrowers

[signal knot]

There is?

[thorny acorn]

support tier 3

[signal knot]

Well damn alrighty then

[thorny acorn]

its bad

[proven dagger]

they can be fun but they're genuinely terrible

[signal knot]

I figured

The only classes I play are MG and Assault

Or AR

And if I’m lucky sniper

[proven dagger]

like honestly the flamethrower is so bad they should lower the level requirement

[karmic mason]

Why is there only 7 servers on xbox?

[signal knot]

But everyone claws for recon

[finite berry]

yeah, then better do that in case you plan on getting it 😅 also, the game is EXTREMELY CPU-heavy. Strong CPU is like the most important aspect

[thorny acorn]

i do have it already

[finite berry]

Isn't the range very low?

[thorny acorn]

got it when i bought Squad, just never played it

[finite berry]

gotcha

[proven dagger]

I can't tell you the exact range but I like it's like 20-30m. You also don't give a suppression/disorienting effect so most the time you just get traded, if you kill them at all.

Also you have to brace before you ever fire.

Like you would an MG.

[finite berry]

20 metres is pretty good, tho?

[flint token]

hii

[proven dagger]

not in a world where fortifications are basically nonexistant

[finite berry]

According to the wiki, its lethal range is 23 metres

[finite berry]

You mean too much open space?

[proven dagger]

also the fire doesn't spread so you're only killing people if they walk into it like idiots.

[finite berry]

ah yeah, I see

[thorny acorn]

tbh most of us are idiots

[proven dagger]

even in urban maps its pretty useless

[thorny acorn]

ur better off stacheling a house than clearing it with the flamethrower

[proven dagger]

again, it takes like a second or two to brace it so you can fire, so by the time you're ready they've probably already seen and shot you. the only time you're killing somebody is if they're blind or you snuck up on them.

it's a sad day when the 1911 is a more combat effective choice

[thorny acorn]

nah the pistol aint better 😭

[proven dagger]

cap, I shoot them in the head and they die immediately.

and I don't need to be within 20m.

[thorny acorn]

yk whats actually the best gun

[proven dagger]

is it a good weapon, no. is it better than the flamethrower, yes.

[thorny acorn]

shotgun

[proven dagger]

i would rather use the shotgun over the flamethrower any day

[thorny acorn]

shotgun is actually strong

[proven dagger]

I also just want to point out the easily overlooked fact that even used against germans (where you would assume they use bolts) they will be spamming MP40's or STG44.

[storm stratus]

Its a very brutal weapon instant kills anyone in range. But as soon as you use it your seen. All they do is aim for the fire. There needs to be a heat effect different to suppression. The heat would be insane. Its a fun weapon when you get the jump on people. But most maps have very little cover. I do agree with alot of what is said. But i still have fun using it. The next update will buff it in some areas i heard.

[finite berry]

Which is the exact issue that I have with this game while understanding at the same time why it does it 😄

Too many semi- and full-automatics

[proven dagger]

idk if I would call it a brutal weapon when literally any other weapon could kill anybody in range.

I can just use the Garand and kill 8 different people before I have to reload.

Or use the M1 Carbine in its effective range and kill more.

[storm stratus]

It instant kills any enemy it touches. Its like an MG. Except 1 shot like a rifle. And its hard to miss the target unless outta range.

[thorny acorn]

uhm

[finite berry]

Yeah, it's still OHK, but why pick a K98k if you can pick an StG 44 instead?

[proven dagger]

except that it has a travel time, and most the time you'll be traded.

[thorny acorn]

shotgun

why pick anything when shotgun

[proven dagger]

it doesnt matter if it instantly kills what it touches if they shoot you before it kills them.

[storm stratus]

Play style is different. Your don’t go head to head. IRL that fire ain’t getting to the target before a bullet. Gotta play to its disadvantages.

[proven dagger]

im not here to be constructive or play around it, it's objectively bad. you would be better off using any other weapon.

[storm stratus]

Your just comparing a head to head show down between fire and a bullet. Obviously a bullet will win.

[thorny acorn]

kaeyde is the meta player

[proven dagger]

the use case of the flamethrower is "I snuck up on enemy garrison while they were spawning"

[proven dagger]

not really, I just hate objectively terrible things. like medic.

if you wanna play medic or use the flamethrower go ahead.

you deserve to play however you want.

[storm stratus]

Same thing really. Just play whats the best and nothing else. Thats pretty much what meta is

[proven dagger]

I use the FG42, you're telling me that's meta lol?

[storm stratus]

It has its uses and is hell fun when you get the hang of it and the maps tight

Plenty of times i run up to a garry i see it but can’t disassemble it. A thrower would of been just perfect

[proven dagger]

also indeed, you should never use the K98 if you can help it.

the use case of the K98 is you're quirky and you wanted to use it.

if you're using the K98, you're probably playing support or AT.

if you are going out of the way to use it, you're really only hurting your team. If you're forced to use it that's different.

[finite berry]

yeah, and I think that's sad

[proven dagger]

indeed

bolt actions suck in HLL, they are all functionally identical. the only real difference is if you're british you get 10 bullets instead of 5 🔥

im pretty confident that all the bolt actions cycle at the exact same speed.

[silent creek]

New to this game...how many hackers/cheaters are in this? I read there often a few..

[proven dagger]

not really in my experience

[river rover]

Very few if you play on Community servers. You may see some in Official since they are not monitored.

[silent creek]

Thank you. I appreciate it

[proven dagger]

clown has spoken

[silent creek]

How do I differ between the two servers?

[river rover]

HLL Official is in the name.

https://www.battlemetrics.com/servers/hll?sort=-players&countries=US

[tulip perch]

In the server list it'll say 'Official' followed by a number

[river rover]

You can also filter within game.

[copper rampart]

Howdy, fairly new to this game, have some time in squad. Looking for a clan/squad/or (whatever you call it 😉 with some people to play with. PC USA West.

[proven raft]

hello

[oak current]

Go have a look over at #pc-divisions-recruitment or #1273956824491491349

[cyan saddle]

@azure heath figuring out how not to sound too harsh

but you're making it really difficult

[azure heath]

go ahead

i'll still love you, and you're (usually) wrong

[azure heath]

just send it to me in dms and i'll help you make it sound less harsh.

[hollow dove]

every west coast server has 20 vips waiting to join. is that a glitch? why wouldn't they all just fill up another server with the same ping?

[cyan saddle]

That means there's 20 people with VIP status currently on the server, not that there's 20 of them waiting in queue.

[wind shore]

helllo

[ebon zephyr]

nah i want the tea

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[crude schooner]

Well guys, I finally did it.. I reached level 250. It's done. Life is complete

Idk how anyone reached 500.

[thorny acorn]

bob the builder maybe

[slate canopy]

Keep playing 🤷‍♀️ I'm at 190 right now at 900 hours.

[thorny acorn]

but tbh career level doesn't matter

[radiant knot]

What happened to the M43 uniform?

Just realized it was announced like five years ago but it hasn’t been added

[thorny acorn]

u remember the 2023 roadmap

[radiant knot]

Yeah

[thorny acorn]

the same thing happened

[radiant knot]

Damn

Lowkey bring back the M43 uniform

Shi was peak

[restive siren]

frfr

[icy trout]

eae

[covert elbow]

Soviet, American, or German

[delicate mango]

anyone know when tobruk will be back on the test server?

[wind shore]

Never

[crude schooner]

ugh... i just looked and I have 2300 hrs. That feels gross.

Should probably uninstall ngl

[wind shore]

It will be on release only

[storm stratus]

Seen a level 754 the other day. Didn’t know it went that high. Had to double triple check.

[slate canopy]

754 is impossible, unless they raised the level from 500 to 1000 as the cap.

[slate canopy]

Hey, if you enjoy the game, who cares 🙂

[wind shore]

How it’s possible

[storm stratus]

I double triple checked. I seen 754. So unless a glitch. Then i dunno.

[wind shore]

The XP will dissapear after 500 LVL

[dusk drum]

What’s the use of the 75mm jumbo

[slate canopy]

It's a heavy tank 👍

[storm stratus]

Maybe it was comparison for the 75 and 76 is what was meant

[covert elbow]

Pretty much none

If it cost less or has a quicker reload then the 76 it could have a niche but for the past…. What 2-3 years it’s been useless

Actual irs worse then useless, it’s detrimental

[dusk drum]

It looks cool with the first in Bastogne chalk writing I guess

[covert elbow]

Yea

[gentle lintel]

That’s rude, it’s a perfectly healthy weight

Can’t believe we’re tank shaming here

[slate canopy]

It's a big beautiful tank ❤️

No tank shaming ever. It's gorgeous

[gentle lintel]

One of the best tanks I’ve ever seen 🫸 🫷

They said it’s the greatest tank ever

[covert elbow]

What about the 76

[midnight nacelle]

The athletic build of the recon tanks gets me every time! 😏

[wind shore]

Do any of you know how to get into the more organised side of play?

[slate canopy]

Are you looking into competitive or more of clan battles?

[cosmic pilot]

woke

[vernal igloo]

@versed turtle buns commander btw

[versed turtle]

hes great

[quick flume]

best part is, you're not actually half way, i think its around 350 is the halfway point

[quiet thicket]

Hi-ho silver!

[copper comet]

Anyone with mic wanna que up in a unit

[visual hound]

I have tried so hard to like this game and have given this game many hours,I just can't play this game, I either die to someone across the map,or get blown up by artillery constantly,mainly being shot from across the map,no matter where I spawn,I can also never get the sensitivity right for console,I feel like even tho I'm fighting other console players it feels like I'm fighting pc players, idk man, iv played realism games before,and got everything down,I do great,but HLL I just can't get the hang of it (I am 100% trash,I'm not hating on the game, just saying I can't get the hang of it)

[storm stratus]

I’ve been trying to achievement hunt. Keeps me smashing at it. Do you do this at all?

[visual hound]

Achievement hunt? In HLL? That's odd lol, but no I don't play these types of games for that,I play for the realism and I like to join serious groups and well,play the game

[storm stratus]

All good each to there own. I’ve got goals to beat friends

[crimson pewter]

hey guys

i have these achievements called ??? and stuff what are they

[stray blaze]

I'm receiving a "failed to request directory" message. Is there an update? Are the servers down?

[visual hound]

How tf do I join US west servers,which is where I am,it says the server ping is 15 but I join and my ping is 80-100, how tf does that make sense,there hasn't been a single server in my entire time playing this where I have had good ping,only game that does this bs

[lofty bough]

100 ping is good?

But likely part of the increase is because your pc is under load

Also if your on PC just pick like a server that has west in its name?

[visual hound]

I'm on Xbox

Also can you read? I literally said I join US west servers,how do you think I'd know that hm?

But yeah imma just uninstall,this game is insanely trash,iv dealt with alot of bs in this game,but rn, just shot someone point blank with my kar98, and he fckin eats it and 1 taps me,this game is trash

[lofty bough]

Toodles then

[arctic rampart]

They essentially reserved achievement slots for when Tobruk comes out in the next "big" update. Then they'll go away and you'll have to actually earn them.

[arctic rampart]

Child, google "How ping works".
The server browser shows a one way latency without anything extra.
In-game you have two way + load from the other clients and probably many other factors which there's no point in delving into, since you're a console normie.
Also one tapping isn't some kind of magical thing that you need to make sure stands out. One tapping in WoW is different to 1 tapping here, they're not the same "strength" so to say.
Just cause you're on console and trash doesn't mean the games bad.

[stray blaze]

Skill issue

[storm stratus]

Thats normal. Same here in Australia. You shouldn’t even notice 80-100 tho

[coarse belfry]

Skill issue

[analog apex]

more like hitreg issue

[opaque parcel]

try turning off gore, helps with hitreg, got that tip from babyburn

i trade a lot more than i did before

[analog apex]

I trade a lot more than I used to in the past... which is however another problem HLL devs introduced under T17 reign. Sometimes it takes even a second for the hit to register and so it ends up in a trade instead of my kill only.

In the past, I used to kill a lot more without getting killed at the same time.

Today, quite a considerable percentage of my kills are trades when I die too the same as the killed guy.

Trades used to be quite rare, but now there is no match in which I wouldn't trade at least 2-3x (or even more).

Ever since Team17 took over HLL, both the hitreg and the hitreg delay got visibly worse than they used to be in the Black Matter times.

[lusty wadi]

Heyy, me and my friends started playing the game recently and we really like playing tanks. We some good and some TERRIBLE game, but on map with a lot of forest, we found ourself dying a lot from AT infantry but cause we are way to close (I guess), how can we be useful without dying on CD

[opaque parcel]

dont go where your infantry isnt, stay close to OPs & garries, always use hard cover and be able to get out easily, have your driver listen for satchels & inf then call out to spotter, always be in 1st gear or reverse when stationary so you can move faster

[lime cypress]

i dont think it helps anything really should be placebo lol

but if you think it works then no reason to not turn it off 🤝

[opaque parcel]

probably

[lusty wadi]

Should we be like more behind our infantry on an open map (like the desert one) ??

[worthy charm]

One open maps you either snipe at long ranges or go to the front directly into your infantry. Sniping is a lot safer though, far less people around and you only need to check for the one dude with a satchel who walked 10 min to get to you.

[real parrot]

I advise you to not trust infantry, 90% of the time you'll be inside your defense point and the enemy will satchel you anyway.
Instead use them like a soft barrier, if you catch me

[worthy charm]

When sniping you should move every few minutes, because of the precision strike.

[lusty wadi]

Yeah that's what I was gonna say, we got snatchel a lot with 20 people around us

[real parrot]

Happens, infantry seems to be to busy finding their own as s to defend any tank

[worthy charm]

Where is the roadmap btw?👀

[real parrot]

We need a roadmap for the roadmap

[lusty wadi]

And on "close" map with A LOT of trees and forest, it's hard to not go in front to be useful, where should we position ourself, because it's mostly on those types of map that we die a lot

[worthy charm]

Dont play tanks on those maps. For real on Hill 400 or Hürtgen Forest playing tank is just straight up torture.

[lusty wadi]

Yeah it's this one, hill 400, so frustrating

Even small one like recon??

[worthy charm]

Recon is fine with a good driver

I dont think its fun tho....

[lusty wadi]

I trust you on that

[worthy charm]

Do as you please.😅

The point is you get stuck fast if your driver isnt very carefull

[lusty wadi]

Btw, I'd love to perfection my self as a commander (it's mostly where I'm playing in tank crew) if you or someone would like to take a fiew game to help me improve I'd like a lot

[worthy charm]

My english isnt as good when talking as with just writing.😅
For Tips you can look into https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1284762788488544266

[wind shore]

Both tbf

[worthy charm]

Or just #1273828697941606450 and search tank

[lusty wadi]

Yeah I already looked at it with my friends, but there is not really a concrete strategy part or guide for commander

Mine isn't the best but I'm able to defend my haha

[real parrot]

Yeah, there are a lot of guides, but have in mind that TC is all about experience and micro-management, learning to be a good leader, things like giving clear and fast orders, the way you speak and how you interact with your crew is also very important both to improve your gameplay and your crews

[arctic rampart]

@worthy charm Go become a mod

And babysit us

[lusty wadi]

Yeah obviously, but sometimes, having a good working plan can a bit useful, as I'm not always able to know what the best option is, and I think playing a bit with someone who know what he is doing can be helpful

[real parrot]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bcFuEUBoj959wy7k65ty5LQ_VxplDuDWmFS5V3CbYTc/edit?usp=drive_link Here, a positions map

I would gladly play with you, but I have to go to work in 5 min

Also I'm not fluent in english

[lusty wadi]

I'm at work too haha

[lusty wadi]

I'll look at it during my lunch, are you in Europe??

[real parrot]

yes

[lusty wadi]

OK, if you want we can play tonight, around 8-9pm

[real parrot]

I don't know if I will be connected, I have many things to do

[lusty wadi]

Np, just tell me we you can and I'll figure out a moment

[full briar]

Hola soy nuevo en el juego y ando un poco perdido me gustaría entrar al clan y así poder aprender poco a poco juego en ps5

[real parrot]

Tienes un canal en español en https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/413295365840699392

También puedes ir a la comunidad hispana #spanish message

[worthy charm]

Never

[hexed hound]

I'm here for this update

[strong flame]

👋

[thorny acorn]

hi

[arctic rampart]

Why tf is it -18C outside today if it was -3 only 2 days ago?

[civic plover]

Hi guys, I just unlocked some random achievements by just being connected on Steam(Not playing the game), did somebody else experience the same?

[thorny acorn]

bc

i think we are in a loop

[civic plover]

@wind shore Hi! sorry for bothering you. By any chances were you making changes to the achievements system on Steam?

[wind shore]

Hi, @civic plover We’ll send a direct message when we have any update to share about this conversation.

[thorny acorn]

#off-topic-mess-hall message

something like this?

[civic plover]

Exactly!

Okay, I'm a little calmer now that I know this isn't a "hack" or something weird

[thorny acorn]

well there is ur answer

[civic plover]

Thank you

[slate canopy]

I cannot find the competitive link but for clans you can find a clan in #console-divisions-recruitment who may partake in clan vs clan games.

[thorn dock]

HOW THE HELL DO I PLACE A BUNKER

I CANT FIGURE IT OUT

why are the placing mechanics so horrible in this game

[oak current]

(as an engineer) you equip your wrench and scroll down to the Bunker, then you click place the blueprint and if you have enough supplies, it can get build with a hammer.

[thorn dock]

you cant place the blueprint

no matter where or how i move it it wont ever become green

[oak current]

then it will tell you the reason why aswell 👀

[thorn dock]

it wont

it simply cant be placed there

thats the reason everxyx time

[oak current]

usual questions woud be: where are you trying to build it?

[thorn dock]

purple heart lane foot of the douve bridge

[cosmic pilot]

@gentle lintel I will send Kane to takeover your position

[oak current]

somehow-flat area in your zone?

[thorn dock]

yeah

it doesnt matter if its flat its broken

i havent seen any bunkers ever placed in the while i played this game

[oak current]

...when you are trying to place it...are you trying to build it right on your person and therefore blocking it with your own body? or are you trying to build it "ahead" of you?

[thorn dock]

ahead of me

[novel geyser]

Building stuff is always a pain
Building the larger structures is even worse, the game is just super picky on where you can place things, it really needs a rework

[thorny acorn]

just remake the whole game atp

[wind shore]

which buildings

[novel geyser]

any of the engineer structures

[delicate mortar]

Bunkers...

Even AT guns are really annoying to place

[thorn dock]

its a miracle if you can place a blueprint of a bunker

the next thing is actually building it

wich is nothing short of impossible for 125 supplies

[azure heath]

supply truck is necessary

[silk igloo]

3 supports can build a bunker in 7.5 minutes. only missing a box of 50 for 5 minutes. and the manpower node of course

[queen kettle]

Roadmap

[ocean glen]

I've received 3 achievements with the name ?

not even playing the game

[worthy charm]

Those come when you use aim bot.

[pearl ledge]

Congrats you've won the grand prize.

[ocean glen]

Last played 8 feb

i've never used cheats

[glad rose]

Thats what they all say !

[covert elbow]

It’s placeholder achievements from the pte

[worthy charm]

And at the end they are pregnant anyway!

[covert elbow]

Its given to basically everyone

[glad rose]

Or take fent

[ocean glen]

Public testing?

[covert elbow]

Yes

[ocean glen]

ah,

[noble hemlock]

What

[gusty fable]

I have a question

[worthy charm]

Dont ask about the ???

[gusty fable]

Why does the MG42 have like 200 rounds in a 50-round drummagazine?

[worthy charm]

Dark magic

Nah its just balancing, they need to make it a belt since always.

They will never tho, at least i dont believe they will

[gusty fable]

They can make the belt fed one a level 6 gun then

And keep the level 3 mg42 with a 50 drum mag that actually has 50 rounds in it

Red Orchestra 2 did something like that

[covert elbow]

BM balancing

[worthy charm]

Nah, 1200 rpm with a 50 round mag is just bad, only thing it would do is make the Bob server full for like a week.

[covert elbow]

Yea. Just make it so the belt can’t be hip fired while the magazine can and bang. Pretty easily balanced

[covert elbow]

If they actually added barrel changing it wouldn’t matter

But for that they’d need to redo the entire gunplay system

[gusty fable]

Well, that's how it was irl..

[covert elbow]

“It ain’t that kind of game kid”

Applying this game to real life isn’t a good idea

It’s to badly designed for that

[gusty fable]

Even bfv has the proper amount

[covert elbow]

Yea lmao

It’s funny when games like helldivers 2 and BFV have more “realistic” mechanics then a previously realistic touted game

[gusty fable]

And not to mention, you can keep a steady fire on target full auto without even stopping

Squad 44 did their MGs best imo

[thorny acorn]

yea but s44 is hard to find games

[finite berry]

it depends on the time zone and the time of the day

[thorny acorn]

im playing currently and there are only 2 serves with some ppl

[finite berry]

Oceania, very hard

[thorny acorn]

im in europe

[finite berry]

Europe, CET evening time, easy peasy

[thorny acorn]

and yea ig its time

[finite berry]

Eh, seeding is starting

Take into consideration that many players in that game have families and have to work

[gusty fable]

That's not the point, the point is they did their mgs really well

[thorny acorn]

yaay ig

but whats the point of good mgs when less ppl are playing it

but idk ill see later tonight

[thorny acorn]

imagine having life lol

[gusty fable]

bc game is too realistic

For me it's too realistic, I prefer more casual

[thin lotus]

People are still suggesting 50 round mg42s lmao.
No.

[gusty fable]

Literally has a 50 round mag on

Make a level 6 rank for the mg42

[thin lotus]

Doesn’t matter, it’s just appearance

[gusty fable]

With belt fed like in Ro2

[thin lotus]

Barrel swapping would be a meme too

[finite berry]

If they at least switched the drum magazine with a belt instead of simply being like "hmm yes, this same-size magazine magically now holds five times as much ammunition"

[thorny acorn]

isnt there barrle swapping in s44

[finite berry]

Yes

For a few machine guns

But in practice, it rarely gets used

You mostly fire short, controlled bursts; and even if you just held down the trigger, you need to burn through 250 rounds or so to actually cause the barrel to smoke and glow

[gusty fable]

I don't think so?

[finite berry]

Visibly, that means

[gusty fable]

Doesn't it come out when the japanese faction releases?

[finite berry]

It does

[thorny acorn]

there is i just tested it

[gusty fable]

Or was it already released

[finite berry]

No, it's already out

[gusty fable]

oh, cool

[thorny acorn]

its . by default

[finite berry]

MG 42, MG 34, Bren Mk. III and MG 26(t) (?) have it

[thorny acorn]

the keybind

[finite berry]

yes

[thorny acorn]

ill check it rn

mg 42 does

[finite berry]

MG 34 too, can tell you that

So does the Bren

[thorny acorn]

yea ik i watch forgotten weapons lol

[gusty fable]

Really cool, didn't realise it released. thought it was gonna come out along with japanese faction

[thorny acorn]

omg there is the 1902 Madsen in the game

[finite berry]

Yes, but only for modders

No faction uses it. Same for the MP 18

Lots of stuff got ported over from Beyond The Wire

[thorny acorn]

well i just lunge mined the floor and my game froze

[finite berry]

Yeah, don't use the lunge mine in local xD Game really doesn't like it

[thorny acorn]

and yes lunge mining the floor does work so it would be a possibility

[thorny acorn]

omg mp18 my love

omg i just loaded 6 shells into a shotgun and it only fired three times

[finite berry]

Local bug

[thorny acorn]

i hope so

[finite berry]

It's confirmed

[thorny acorn]

bc loading 3 bullets into a kar when i only fired once is impossible

[finite berry]

All training and shooting ranges get locally loaded on your computer, and those are prone to bugs (the game also gives you a very clear warning about that every time you load into those). The shotgun ammunition bug is one of them. On any online server, the shotgun fires six rounds as intended

[thorny acorn]

it does say that the range is buggy, but not for the underground one lol

[finite berry]

That is due there being only two reloads per weapon (full reload, semi-full reload). Devs said they want to expand on that at some point

[finite berry]

It's the same

[thorny acorn]

omg yea they should do that, i dont believe it should be that complicated

[finite berry]

Everything that is loaded locally suffers from that issue, no matter whether it's Subway Range, Arnhem Range, Armour School or loading one of the maps locally (yes, that's a thing, you can do that)

[finite berry]

It will probably take more time because it's no priority now (Pacific, y'know), but I'm optimistic it will happen at some point

gotta water the plant

[thorny acorn]

lol

[cosmic pilot]

How dare you talk about squad in my HLL discord

[finite berry]

What does the plant even mean :D

[thorny acorn]

we are making a coup, we are rebranding this discord as S44

[cosmic pilot]

It means you're a plant.
You you were put in here with a disguise so you could shill for squad

[finite berry]

I'm not a plant, I'm a dinosaur 😉

[cosmic pilot]

Strictly no shilling allowed.
We only complain about HLL here.

[thorny acorn]

we aint shilling, im complaining about SQ44

[covert elbow]

I’m not complaining about S:44, I’m simply explaining why it’s better

[cosmic pilot]

Strictly not allowed

[covert elbow]

False

[thorny acorn]

i dont think its better, tbh the games are not alike other than setting

[cosmic pilot]

If it was better it would have more players

[cosmic pilot]

Chat, fact check him on this

[covert elbow]

Seriously speaking though it is super funny going through HLL and realizing S:44 has almost everything HLL has but better designed

[covert elbow]

The issue with S:44 is marketing

[thorny acorn]

at least play it then compare them

[covert elbow]

Did y’all know the pacific update drops like… tomorrow?

[covert elbow]

I wish I could

[cosmic pilot]

Sure, sure. SQ 44 famously has a bad trailer under it's belt

[thorny acorn]

lets not talk about that hll trailer

[covert elbow]

No lets

Piece of crap

If that wasn’t a sign for the future I don’t know what was

[thorny acorn]

well im playing it rn and its not that fun, but ig its because im a blueberry and there is basically no ppl talking

talking about s44 i forgor to reply 💀

[cosmic pilot]

I am capable of interpreting context

[thorny acorn]

👍

[covert elbow]

Wait HLL or S:44

[thorny acorn]

fortnite

[covert elbow]

Makes sense

[thorny acorn]

do i go fr*nch or german thats the real question

[covert elbow]

French

[cosmic pilot]

I would ask the obvious, why is French censored

[thorny acorn]

bc eww fr*nch

there are cameras lol

[pine ember]

German

[thorny acorn]

ok yea shis fun when ppl are actually talking

i killed three croisant ppl

[finite berry]

It's become better already. The biggest problem is not attracting players, but retaining them

[covert elbow]

Same with HLL haha

[finite berry]

HLL's player numbers say otherwise

[covert elbow]

Idk. I’ve seen more and more people I know stop playing recently

[oak current]

so did I, 6 years ago

[cosmic harbor]

Really enjoyed playing Tobruk. Once they add more clutter and fix a few things, I bet this will be a popular map.

[oak current]

am old

[covert elbow]

Hope so. I’m glad they’re creating good maps

[pine ember]

Its really good indeed

[cosmic harbor]

Nothing not to like IMO. It had something for everyone. And it had a cool storm that changes up how you flank and move

[oak current]

especially that 2nd Mid point for Brits sounds very cool

[cosmic harbor]

Cool mid points. Cave system could be cool and there is a huge rooftop whcih should add some interesting fights on

[oak current]

[analog apex]

I disagree, too many empty spaces especially in the town yet, feels dead and CoD2-environmentalQualityLevel-like.

[cosmic harbor]

Couldn’t disagree more

[covert elbow]

Only thing I didn’t like, as a viewer, was how unpolished and unfinished it looked. They said it was because it’s a PTE but every other PTE I’ve seen stuff like that is long finished

[cosmic harbor]

They said they had work to do to add clutter. I knew that before playing

[covert elbow]

Yea but in the past they’ve never really done that

This is the first time I’ve seen it look like this

[oak current]

eh just gotta go the Enlisted way for north africa and add random crap to the outside of the buildlings - then people have their decor

[covert elbow]

Also destroyed buildings and craters

[oak current]

ah yes, more flower pots and colourful cloths

[oak current]

how would you destroy a crater? MADMAN!

[cosmic harbor]

They will add more to this map. If they don’t then everyone will scream.

[covert elbow]

The 2nd battle of Tobruk was a mess of destruction

[covert elbow]

Hopefully

[cosmic harbor]

They have already said so

[analog apex]

and a month or two after it will be still the same as always xD

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-buster-baxter-bunny-you-really-think-someone-would-do-that-go-on-the-internet-and-tell-lies-gif-17527378

[cosmic harbor]

Maybe but the finished product won’t be. No way they release in its current state. Give it time

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[cosmic harbor]

So you think they will just release it as is? Even though they said they are adding more??? I just don’t agree with that

[delicate mortar]

How many months though

[covert elbow]

They’ve done it before

[cosmic harbor]

No idea but they have work to do still.

They didn’t release a map looking as unfinished as this in the past..sorry I don’t agree with that

[analog apex]

We have been giving them time times and times over, got disappointed the same amount of times.

Although in the case of map design, I admit there is always a chance as the maps is the only thing they have been doing apart of DLCs right now pretty much.

[cosmic harbor]

I’m not as disappointed as you I guess

[covert elbow]

If this roadmap doesn’t come with overhauls and reworks I’m gonna be fuming

[mellow knoll]

A lot of us are disappointed

Mainly because we know it could be so much better but it isn't progressing that direction atm

[analog apex]

I honestly can't wait to see it... it will likely be either a great one or a terrible one.

[covert elbow]

The fact it’s taken this long is pretty telling

And we already know the second map so….

[analog apex]

yep, it's becoming slowly like the 2024 roadmap... released when we will already know what they are working on even without looking at the roadmap

[mellow knoll]

To be fair that isn't really their fault, they can't exactly stop people from leaking easily

[cosmic harbor]

Idk..lots of people should just fine other games to play if they are disappointed by this one.

[covert elbow]

If it’s just the 2024 roadmap again it’s… god idk what’s gonna happen

[analog apex]

unless there's gonna be something rly great like big overhauls or modding support or UE upgrade

[covert elbow]

I wish but I don’t have any options

[cosmic harbor]

Plenty of other options

[finite berry]

Wait, which one?

[covert elbow]

HLL is all I have for a hardcore WW2 shooter unless I want to play BFV for another 1000 hours

[covert elbow]

Juno. It was found in the game files

[finite berry]

Ah

[covert elbow]

Can’t wait for the pacific

[finite berry]

Thought that was just a meme xD

[finite berry]

What was that again? British beach on Normandy?

[covert elbow]

Yea

[analog apex]

a mindset like this usually leads to lower quality if there is not disappointment expressed loud enough from the bottom

[covert elbow]

God idk why they added the Brit’s

[mellow knoll]

The brits are fine

[covert elbow]

They should have finished rounding out the US and actually finished the Soviets before moving on

[mellow knoll]

Most people who have issues with them are just bad at playing them lmao

[covert elbow]

Instead they just split the dev time even more

[cosmic harbor]

Idk, I’ve been hearing these same complaints for years now. Not everyone has the same mindset as you.

[analog apex]

if they at least added some more maps for the British like Pegasus bridge, Villers Bocage, some more Market Garden maps...

[covert elbow]

It’s the fact it’s an entire other 2 factions to work on while the Soviets are drowning

[covert elbow]

DRIEL BRIDGE WAS ALREADY DESTORYED BY MARKET GARDEN YOU IDIOTS

[mellow knoll]

The only ones that need any attention rn are the Soviets and the Brits.

It shouldn't be difficult to do one map each update lol but apparently it is

[covert elbow]

And that’s the issue. Instead of making stuff for the Soviets they have to now also make stuff for Africa and Brits in the ETO

[covert elbow]

I mean it isn’t when we only get 2 updates a year

[mellow knoll]

True

[thorny acorn]

damn s44 is hella fun

[mellow knoll]

I really wish I could enjoy S44 alone but I just can't

[finite berry]

In what way alone?

[covert elbow]

You could probably find a group easily

[mellow knoll]

I just prefer playing with friends

[thorny acorn]

well im a blueberry so im having fun learning the game

[mellow knoll]

Especially since I main tank

Every time I go with randos it goes to s***

[finite berry]

Tanking should only be started as soon as you have some basic infantry and overal game experience

And yes, it's better to tank with friends or clan members

[mellow knoll]

Oh I do, trust me.

I ain't a new player lol

[thorny acorn]

i think he was saying that to me lol

[mellow knoll]

oh

[finite berry]

Fair, sorry 🫡

[finite berry]

No, meant Stellar

[thorny acorn]

im gonna go solo locked tank squad rn

[grizzled kiln]

Reminded me of S44 and SquaD maps tbh

[mellow knoll]

If you use a recon/light, fair. If you go medium or heavy that's major cringe

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-manhattan-watchmen-marvel-gif-21030500

[finite berry]

don't

[thorny acorn]

im not lol

or am i

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/get-him-south-park-its-christmas-in-canada-s7e15-seize-him-gif-22110406

[civic dune]

bruh i just hit an officer in the chest while he was building an OP and the agme just decided it was not a kill

im so mad

[thorny acorn]

but omg is the sprint speed off putting

[covert elbow]

HLL moment

[finite berry]

Why?

[thorny acorn]

its fast

or its the 120 fov effect

[worthy charm]

Sprinting is really fast yes

but at least its balanced because of the stamina system

UNLIKE some other games after T17 took over👀

[covert elbow]

Also for vehicles because they actually move like normal vehicles

[rapid vessel]

Still no road map?

[covert elbow]

Nope. Still like 2 weeks out

[worthy charm]

No give them a few weeks

[mellow knoll]

Unlike HLL where they're literal snails because of "Balance" lmao

[covert elbow]

It’s probably just because the speeds tied to reload times or something weird like that

[worthy charm]

Arent tanks so slow because of the game cant handle faster speed?

[mellow knoll]

If that's the case that's hilarious

[covert elbow]

Probably

[worthy charm]

Omg that would be so funny

[thin lotus]

Something to do with the physics getting wonky as you deviate further from the center of the map. Could just be dev cope tho

[worthy charm]

After what i remember the tanks are get thrown into the air when they hint something with faster speeds

[covert elbow]

Man I want to pick the brains of the devs to understand this game

[mellow knoll]

same lol

[covert elbow]

The what???

[thin lotus]

It’s an engine thing

[covert elbow]

Like…

What the actual **** does that mean

[mellow knoll]

I didn't realize Unreal Engine 4 was bad.

[thin lotus]

Same to do with why the gunsights appear to vibrate as you get further away

[mellow knoll]

I'm just gonna take a guess that the game was just not put together very well

[covert elbow]

They do????

What was BM smoking when they made this game

[thin lotus]

It was an issue in squad also, also unreal engine

[covert elbow]

Like everytime I learn about this game it gets worse and worse

[covert elbow]

Ah okay

So HLL gets a pass this time

[thorny acorn]

omg ppl cant throw nades in this game either 😭

[worthy charm]

Thats a first time fr

[thin lotus]

Hll is the perfect example of “temporary fixes cause permanent problems”

[covert elbow]

This is why it needs a relaunch

[civic dune]

no i think the infantry players whined that tanks are so much better than infantry or something

[covert elbow]

It’s just so badly made

[worthy charm]

The whole game is a permanent fix

[civic dune]

so now the turret takes 15 minutes to do a 360 turn

[analog apex]

it always pains me when I think about the huuuge potential it has always had... an unused one

[covert elbow]

BM listening to this community was its downfall

So much of this game is genuinely boring and a comp players dream

[worthy charm]

Eyyyy sam is with us to cry about the game.

This feels far better already

[analog apex]

ofc, can't miss this can I 😄

[covert elbow]

Who needs to learn mechanics when you can use 100% shoot the enemy all the time essily

[arctic rampart]

You spawn in on your own op, and killed straight away, WHACHU GONNA DO?

ACT A FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[analog apex]

"he must be cheating" xD
"I am going to spawn here again"

[covert elbow]

Still sad seeing them change how OP’s work during beta

Back then you needed one other squad mate nearby to place one down

[worthy charm]

The system in S44 is better balanced.

[covert elbow]

It’s almost like S:44 is the better HLL

[thorny acorn]

something something radioman?

[worthy charm]

The current system makes recon so strong

[covert elbow]

Like it’s not even funny at this point

[worthy charm]

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat, noooo

[covert elbow]

It’s so absolutely broken. Outposts in general are

[worthy charm]

But S44 has its own problems.

[covert elbow]

It’s such a bad system currently

[analog apex]

yep
the problem of HLL's spawnpoints is that their building rules are tied to the flat front line and square-shaped sectors

[covert elbow]

Yea but it’s a better made game

[worthy charm]

The never ending magazine of the Panzerwerfer 42 for example

its funny but also very unfair

[thorny acorn]

not rly, its hard to run and optimization is kinda meh, but i dont see SQ44 as better than HLL, its different and more tactical

[covert elbow]

It’s better in the way that it actually has a proper gameplay philosophy and thought out mechanics

[worthy charm]

diffrently buggy

[analog apex]

SQ44 has way better systems, but a bad graphic/environmental quality level is way too low

[covert elbow]

HLL is the epitome of throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks

[azure heath]

clunky infantry too

[finite berry]

That only applies when you literally park it next to a repair crane which is considered exploiting on some servers

[covert elbow]

While everythjng slides down the wall slowly

[finite berry]

This. Neither game is better. They are different and equally good at what they are trying to offer to the player.

[finite berry]

It's been vastly improved over the course of 2024, tho

[analog apex]

game as a whole, probably not
but SQ44's in-game systems are better than any of HLL's in every possible way

[worthy charm]

To this day I believe to have dicovered that bug, not sure tho. I was the first one on the S44 dicord to make a report, and none of the other players knew that bug soooo

[finite berry]

And Iwo Jima looks really good

[worthy charm]

I credit myself

[cosmic pilot]

I'm not convinced this was ever the real issue.

[mellow knoll]

S44's godsend was the new dev studio. They're really making it something special albeit slowly.

[finite berry]

Don't know HLL's systems in practice, so can't say anything about that

[finite berry]

Mercury Arts are the giga chads of all developers

[azure heath]

i just can't with the graphics and frames on it

[covert elbow]

Did y’all know there used to be multiple points per sector in HLL? And that every point have resources?

[azure heath]

looks great from afar

[thin lotus]

It didn’t work

[cosmic pilot]

So you are a plant

[finite berry]

No

[mellow knoll]

Sounds very interesting

[analog apex]

I am, because in relation to the square-shaped sectors, the problem of strongpoint locations is being made... if on the far side, the attacking team is forced to rely on the redzone garrisons only. Just because the game says so and not because the logic like cover or nature as a sector border.

[finite berry]

Why? Mind to elaborate?

[worthy charm]

How? It work in offensive doesnt it?

[low mirage]

Hey lads this may be a dumb question but ifmy mate is on Xbox and i on pc can i join the same server as him or are they two completely seperate servers?

[cosmic pilot]

No

[thin lotus]

Offensive doesn’t have both teams trying to teleport past eachother

[finite berry]

Crossplay is no thing if I'm not mistaken

[worthy charm]

No

[cosmic pilot]

I can elaborate later

[covert elbow]

From what it said it was because players complained that there wasn’t enough action and they didn’t feel like they were contributing anything by defending the point

[analog apex]

yes and that's not my opinion here now, that's how it rly "works" in HLL

[azure heath]

it's worse than HLL, might be a skill issue, but the enemies from any distance look bad

[low mirage]

bruh what kinda game doesnt have crossplay

[finite berry]

Bad in what way?

[low mirage]

thats like

[worthy charm]

Why is this a problem for caps?😂

[covert elbow]

It definitely wasn’t a “didnt work” but more of in need or refinement imo

[low mirage]

incredibly stupid

[finite berry]

Squad 44 is graphically inferior to HLL, yes, but it's not as bad, and it has beenvastly improved over 2024.

[worthy charm]

Ah nvm you meant gameplay wise

[mellow knoll]

Not from what I could see when I last played xD

[finite berry]

This one

[azure heath]

it's hard to explain, it's like pixelated but not

[worthy charm]

I thought it was an engine thing again

[covert elbow]

Having multiple caps per sector. Like 1 main with 2 smaller ones could be really fun

[analog apex]

it has sooooo daaamn many vehicles and they are pretty detailed, unlike the maps

[civic dune]

TAA makes things blurry

smearing a lens may look better

[azure heath]

the foliage makes me want to throw up on S44

[worthy charm]

I like their arty vehicles so much, on the bigger maps its so cool

[thin lotus]

There was way too much sneaking around, and there was never any sort of consolidated action. It seemed like a series of random events with pockets of players both everywhere and nowhere simultaneously

[azure heath]

Too little players for the map size

[covert elbow]

It’s also an issue of HLL’s maps just being way to big

[azure heath]

that too

[analog apex]

that's where I disagree

[thin lotus]

That’s what I’ve been saying, hlls maps are bigger than they need to be. It’s like twice as wide as it should be

[covert elbow]

Like cool. Big maps. But when all the action is happening on like… 1/10th of the map it’s not worth having it be so big

[worthy charm]

Yeaaaaa, that may be true, but taking out the tracks of a enemy tank with a halftrack+20mm is just so funny.

[covert elbow]

And it’s because originally there was multiple cap points

But they got rid of it and never adjusted for the change

[thin lotus]

It’s way too easy to be inconspicuous given the map size, then you throw in teleportation spawning as the main way to travers the map and it’s just bad

[analog apex]

all hail the airhead

[thin lotus]

There’s no groundedness to the teams’ movements

[finite berry]

You mean the details or the overall visual appearance?

[thorny acorn]

i mean S44 feels more kill focused from my blueberry experience, but idk

[covert elbow]

I hate that thing with all my passion

[thin lotus]

One second your one one side of the map, then another your up the enemy’s arse because teleport

[thorny acorn]

hail to the king/thief

[analog apex]

amount of smaller map assets and their believable authentic placement

and terribly looking nature - trees especially

[covert elbow]

Like I’ve said. No more airheads and block supply drops in enemy territory. All of a sudden you have a consistent front

But instead BM just outright disabled red zone Garry’s and people rightfully hated it

[worthy charm]

But most of the houses have an interior, thats so cool

[analog apex]

and yet it doesn't feel as alive as in HLL

[finite berry]

The kills do matter more due to the ticket system. Thus, your life also matters and it is highly recommended to actually wait for a revive

[covert elbow]

I’ll take more empty houses for more interiors to enter