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Which still changes a lot, because that could mean you catching a tick on a spawn where you would miss it. It's all relative. If that's how you want to do it, that's up to you I was just responding to someone saying why I don't have it and my opinion is, it's against the game design.
PC HLL plays way more as mostly long range engagements than HLL console, which is a lot closer
if it could be made to only work in bluezone it would probably good
Just from what I've noticed
No, it would be abused. Defenders can redeploy faster around the map then the enemy can. I don't like that idea.
Doesn't work when you are bleeding out though
ofc not
People hold escape redeploy also redeploy faster than those holding space
yea thats also a stupid UI oxymoron
What? Getting punished for waiting for a medic?
no one waits for a medic
My issue is, you can have people redeploy in an urgent need of defence and able to get into the spawn screen faster, possibly hitting crucial spawn ticks. That's a manipulation of a game mechanic and rewards people for it. I don't like it.
:D
very sad when u try to be a medic
deserved
waste of manpower
waste of manpower is the engi refusing to build nodes
that too
It's not you, it's the game 🥺 I do try to wait for medics now, but before I just automatically hold F without thinking twice
if you consider that its already hardly faster when the OP is near
and on top of that it takes TWO players
yea its like a paradox, no one waits for medic bc no one plays it, and no one plays medic bc no one waits for medic
whats a waste
Medics should get more ammo.
Actually I started waiting for medics after attempting the revive 63 players in 1 game achievement
(and you dont get your grenades back)
even then its not good most of the time
medics can be good for pushing from behind yk
umm aktually medics were historically a non combat role 🤓
like there is no op or garry and u are flanking
yea if you go without SL, ie you are doing something wrong
I’m lvl 9 on medic
:O
not if sl told u to go without him
More ammo, smoke, can heal faster, I don't have an issue with medics, especially one working with a squad working together you can keep a fight going and if you lose an OP and SL is on his back, get second wind to get a new OP up and continue the pressure. Medic is overlooked. I just think the lack of ammo really hurts it.
so situational
yup
getting your grenades back is a big point imo
It's definitely part of it
if you add the time to get healed and the time the medic spent on it, it doesnt look so efficent
just use the second medic loadout
Hear me out: a medic-specific buildable for tier 2 medic.. that does something beneficial in it's radius somehow lol
the medic could be a useful class and murder 5 people in that time yk
would be cool
Also they should make pistols 1 shot at 20/30 metres, he should be able to put down a med station where people can go and heal themselves faster.
That's as far as I've got with that idea haha
There we solved the second class medic, next world hunger
med station is eighter op because huge radius or rather useless
shhh ur ruining our perfect plan
It's something, besides that what else could be done, be a zombie station where you pick up pieces of bodies and store them in a medical bunker and eventually it allows for a spawn, the more bodies you can get the more spawns are available. ( Company of heroes anyone)
:}
Yea, if that's the only class that could do it, maybe, it would give it something unique.
would be cool for some heroic moments
ofc they could always increase the manpower cost
and change the whole game :}
Fog ❤️
Night ♥️
Paid DLC 🙏
Pls make it happen T17
we need Japan and the Marines
someone posted in honeypot! throws confetti
can somebody pls tell me how to make this game a bit more enjoyable on ps5 it seems like an absolute mess and idk what to do
Sup
hello
At this point I’d just save the slot and can the medic class altogether.
Who knows? Maybe we’ll have an awesome class rework on the roadmap… if we ever get said roadmap 🙏🏻
nuh uh
Find folks to play with? Join a community?
Anyone looking to play?
Better to get it to LVL 10, and after wait for something
Like me
Thanks!
when i play on epic games it means i am playing as a console player?
No it means the controller icon is a placeholder for Epic and Gamepass players
It is confusing I agree 😅
Placeholder xddd
Wouldn't that be the correct term?
making a new icon takes effort, give it a break
That would assume that it would actually receive a proper symbol at some reasonable time in the near future
It might be more complicated, since I figure if it were just about uploading a png.. it would have been done by now
For example, crossplaying xbox and ps in a lot of games - you won't see the logo for the other console brand, just your own
I was just playing the finals the other day, and the console players have a generic globe icon 🌐
Not the flamethrowers :😭
Yeah that was rough hahah
its even worse for epic players ALL players have the controller symbol
Definitely
on the other hand idk why it needs to show the platform at all
wait thats because they dont have their own friend system
Yeah that's also a valid point lol
another crazy thing
Would probably need to have all PC platforms have a T17 ID like console has
thats like when countries dont recognize each other's existance lol
as if xbox doesnt recognize PS exists and viceversa
consoles are so petty..
Yeah it's all about branding at least for that
if its a case of copyright (showing one stores icon in another stores game) just have the letters "ES" for epic store, MS for microsoft or GP for MS gamepass perhaps, S for steam
what if you just use a generic "window" symbol for microsoft gamepass, instead of the windows logo 🪟
I remember reading (for another game) that to get sony and MS to agree to crossplay, a stipulation was that it wouldn't show the other console's logo for their players
it just sounds so petty........
sounds about right they are the most petty
That's business for ya
none of it excuses using controller icon to mean anything other than "using controller not kb+m"
Well yeah, just using it as an example of how it could be more complicated potentially. It could be just uploading a png who knows
pick a different png to begin with
they might just be using what the platforms matchmaking provides by default
aint no pc matchmaking
Don't remind us 😒
im refering to the platforms mm services, they are using those
Could be, not sure how it all works, but if someone finds out I'm curious lol
yeah thats pretty confusing, i just assumed HLL had gotten console crossplay with PC when i saw it and thought that was why they were so bad 🤭
its the only explaination why the game is affected by epic mm outages
yep and that plus the term "crossplay" so many ppl / reddit threads assuming there is pc / console crossply
so poorly thought through
Well it's on unreal engine, so not sure if that factors in at all
And uses EAC EOS
So a lot of Epic services right there
steam games typically use the steamworks thing for online right? idk much
Does the Hll etool still exist
how is it done for MS?
UE engine has plugins for steam and epic
whats that for
collection of guides/tips
It's pretty useful for finding info, they did a good job with that server
Best place to find default garries in a pinch
The quiz was fun, they got me on a few questions lol
@oak current moving the conversation here because 2 hour waiting period
I’ve always heard BM blamed the game engine so destruction wasn’t possible and the test they did proved it. But they said it was instead for gameplay reasons?
Okay
as I wrote in that thread twice 😄
but yeah, pewpew against trees
its a short recording you may still find somewhere on here or on dannyarts page
Ah yea that was a pretty big point haha
max
Yea I’ve seen it. It looked basic but doable
We're onto you 👀
But it’s weird how you even mentioned that BM said gameplay they wouldn’t add it for gameplay reasons
Cause I’ve never heard that
Get the discord premium service that starts with an N and ends in O
It’s also one of the dumbest things I’ve heard
That automod will block me on
We do max
The server blocks outside emotes
someone saying something that is not relevant to the discussion in suggestions-area? WHAT Madness
so when pacific
What no don’t take it that way
I mean it’s a new POV I haven’t heard and now I’m wondering if the reason we didn’t get destruction was BM gaslighting again
either performance, netcode - or the simple concept of: map would become unplayable nightmare due to lack of cover quickly 😄
I mean the destruction test vid is in DannyArt's webpage lol
I mean it depends on the map. And tbf if the maps looses all its cover from destroying a few fences that’s just poor map design
fences dont give cover
So yea the whole destruction looses all cover is pretty on brand for BM haha
but imagine playing hürtgen or hill400 and trees are destroyable
the amount of information being sent..good god
Those trees would only be destroyable via explosives, not driving over them
and shooting them
But trees on say Karkhov or…
MG42 go brrrrrrrt into a forest
Player A sees the broken tree trunk in this spot, player B sees it in this spot. Player A gets killed thinking they were behind cover
Or other maps it’d be fine
what, are they going to make a HLL e-girl next? 🤨
You been reading my emails?
The what???
8mm is big but it would not be able to take out one of the trees on Hill 400 or Hurtgen
🤷♂️
We've got them already
tank shot also go boom
I remember trees being halfed, that was it in terms of destruction that was shown back then
If you see a person die behind cover and go to replace them you deserve to die tbh because that “cover” had most likely been side stepped
brother, where
I don't know why that's a filter but I assume it was for anti spam at some point @past veldt
I mostly just want destroyable barbed wire on Utah beach
@velvet linden what your twitch link
changed the map from being fun to being painful
The worst bit is, it's the second time it's caught me
bri'ish
Let engineer actually be an engineer or give assault wire cutters to justify the class existing
aye
I think the only two times I've typed e-girl out is on this discord
No one invited me to this I see
hi drew
We have pagers that go off
And alarms
🚨
Next time we get a spam bot I'll call it via a naughty word alert
Hey
Nit*o
Ty for your service 
Uh oh, even Jericho got the pager alarm
<@&365680483276816385> Just to let you guys know, a user I was discord friends with but haven't spoken to for quite some time is mass sending NSFW in dms, mustv'e been hacked, different pfp etc. Not long before this will be spammed in server. @lean violet is the user.
Oh yea with that PFP he’s been consumed by the hive mind
Tell them if/when they recover their account, to hop into the ban appeal server (link in their DMs) and we'll unban em
If you're friends with them that is
why has this place been hidden from me
You haven't been banned?
lies
quick, ban him
Too much paperwork.. too lazy
yes, tanks can run over trees fairly easily
It’s just those pesky hedgerows that won’t go down 🤣
Haha they must’ve put wire and reinforced them up
Yep yep
Or flamethrower and burn them 😈
I think your overestimating how quickly you can burn hedges
American flamethrower shot like 60-70 feet…I’m pretty sure that would at least get it started 🤣
Yea
Hedge cutter tanks would be a great addition 🫡
I would vote for it
You would cut one down and find 2 garrisons, 4 outposts, a tank and couple of bush wookies
Hehehe
Yea Hedge cutters would legitimately be such a nice addition to the game
Have them be a much more costly medium tank
Imagine spawning late in game and it’s just open and clear land where the enemy team cut them all down 🤣
Haha
Utah beach and fields would never be the same 🤣
I mean to balance it out the tank would have to take a while to actually cut down the hedge, saw 20-30 seconds
I know , it was - destructible assets in Hell let loose
I have seen it somewhere in Internet , tank destroys trees
they should make it that when u die in game ben comes and kills u irl, would make it lot more realistic
Feels like I’ve seen it in game too!
Ben seems really cool 😎
Uhhhh maybe?
Honestly just a satchel being able to blow open small holes in hedges would be nice
oh hedge destruction
But before that we’d need a resupply/ spawn rework and lessening the explosive power of the satchel
would be cool, but probably hard to implement
That jawline is considered a weapon in a lot of countries
but before that we need 2025 roadmap
I mean yes?
its never coming :(
Yeah I got kicked the other night for using a satchel on the train wreck in forest. 🤣 I got in both prox chat and squad chat multiple times and was saying look, I’m about to be clear this **** yeah yeah go for it! Kicked….
I have it on good authority that it should be here before 2026
i love stacheling the tank, then see my random squadmate tbaging on it
I know right? It’s like a moth to light
Yea that’s satchels for you
like ....
im not gonna continue
Hey at least it got them the point, because I killed like 19 people and took a garrison
They should be a small but powerful concentrated explosive. Not some tank and infantry be-gone
Damn nice
Gammon bombs
Isn't that too early for the 2025 roadmap?
Yeah they had a garry behind the train car and was near impossible to get around it so I just stuck a satchel to it 🤣🤣🤣
Haha I did get kicked though 🤣 Worth every single vote kick
now the question is, can u place stachel on ur own jeep
That American explosive that was like a spear
I don't know the name
Bangalores
Used at D-Day for clearing fences
It was used everywhere
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Japanese made a version too
Imagine unclogging a toilet with that.
Same concept but a lot more lethal 😓
it would be cool to be able to place stachel on ur own jeep
i mean whats stopping u from doing it irl
A one-way trip
Death
nah
You’re not gonna get 40 virgins bruh 🤣
doing bf4 like kamikaze jeep into the enemy tank
I was thinking about that but I didn't want to be banned.
Thank you
Thank you for writing it yourself.
well i dont get it so ....
Dude is literally talking about suicide bombing irl 🙄
just jump out at the last second
What was the Japanese name of that Bangalore?
Yeah that's probably not a rabbit hole we wanna go down
easy peasy
Your talking about the lunge mine correct?
I like rabbits
Correct!
Was it actually strong enough to take out tanks?
Yes
Crazy! But admiral
But it was incredibly inneffective because it required the solider to run up to the tank and thrust it onto the side armor
It also killed the user
Japanese gave no cares though, its part of their beliefs
A tank for a soldier is a good trade
There was testimony from a tanker in the pacific who said they saw it but it never worked because they just killed the solider using it
It was much more effective used in Vietnam
And more widely used
To the soldier he died with honor
Battlefield has once again overblown a weapon way out of proportion
isnt s44 adding it
Yes
Mainly because the Japanese has like… no personal anti tank weapons
so u get magnetic mine and a boom stick
It’s the lunge mine, homemade explosives, and some other obscure stuff
And the type 99 yea
The Japanese arsenal sucks. Which is why I laugh at pacific posts
They didn't have an anti-tank rifle?
probably not
It just shows they haven’t actually done research and have only watch The Pacific
True I mean half of the population was still living in bamboo structures as well correct?
It wa similar to Russian AT
well russians did have an at rifle
Type 97
Only like a thousand and the fell out of service before 1941
And I feel like only top ranks got what came out
idk i never gave a fck about japan so i have no idea about their weaponry
Just all nations AT Rifles they sucked against modern tanks
Yeah type 97 is a 20mm
Imagine if they put in the Russian offensive against Japan
Whewwww
except the chad wz.35 which penetrated the armor bc of the speed of the projectile
only polish can come up with that
I owed an Arisaka at one point. Very cool rifle
nice, unfortunately i am not able to speak of guns i have since gun laws prohibit me from owning them
The Russians had to do damage, for some reason the Germans put skirts on the panzers
Same
Not even vintage ones like those?😓
Hunting rifles are allowed in my country.
Guys what do you think about Squad 44 , does it has mostly fan mods or it’s just updates
I have seen lots of their map previews on YT, but never found them and played
We're talking about being gun owners
You could probably own an arisaka and it classify as a hunting rifle but would be overkill🙈
A at boys
I don’t care
a bazooka for hunting hogs
A 88 mm flak
or a fully automatic zastava m70 with the grenade launcher, but i don't think they will accept me to the hunting grounds with that
I have been genuinely curious about it as well, it does look fun!
Was super ineffective historically speaking, tho
That should do the trick!!
i mean if u had the balls to use it against the enemy infantry
Even more idiotic
yea im gonna do that on s44
?
bc it sounds fun
Not even sure if it works
it better do
well how does the japanese boom stick work?
Not user friendly 🤣
O/10
You hit things with the tip of the stick
And boom
so if the thing u hit, is an enemy solider, it should still work, right?
Maybe it's too soft
Technically like a bayonet stab attack.
i dont see the problem here
If it hits hard enough yeah
Hit him on the helmet
Again not user friendly 🤣
or on the ground below
In Battlefield V you could do that
Imagine if they had those in WW1? In the trenches? Holy smokes
Target too soft
As if that was worth a comparison
I'm just saying it
Let’s see you take a mine on the end of stick and use it 🤣
theyd find even more crazier ways to use it
I'm not saying it's credible or not, I'm just saying it could be done.
maybe tape an anti personnel mine to the end of a stick
omg
Yeah they said people used hatchets, boards with nails, and all kinds of stuff so yes
Or use a basic stick to hit people
throwing lunge mines from planes onto enemies
To use the mine, the soldier would remove the security pin, then run towards the enemy armoured vehicle as if making a bayonet charge, and thrust the top of the mine against the target. The weapon needed to be held by the center with the left hand and by the bottom with the other hand. When the legs of the mine hit the objective, the handle was pushed forward, cutting a pin and making the striker move forward to the detonator.
It needed to be a done on a flat, hard surface like tank armour. And even then you need some serious force to set it off. Have fun trying to replicate that on humans
party pooper
You have ruined his dreams
Yeah dudes be way too serious
Sorry folks, but I like realism :D
It made me sad
I do NOT want to be on the end of it regardless
if i ever get hands on a lunge mine im testing my theory on you
I'm going to bed
Kamikazes aswell guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Okay, but I will shoot you before you come even close enough ^^
nah id win
is epic games considered as console?
doubt :D
No
Hi
night
Gentlemen walk 10 paces and turn around
gn!!
Hi
why its only shows me console division recruits then?
-# its gonna be a surprise attack, he wont expect it
Go to the top left and select the arrow and select show all channels. You can see everything.
@wet fossil Your question got already answered here, literally
(now I do)
sorry i missed it
A diddy stick
All jokes aside, dudes who used them had no cares but honor and fighting
True as well
we need more hot takes
Still waiting for tank camos to drop
ℹ️ Latest Nvidia Game Ready Driver 572.42 WHQLℹ️
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/results/
its like 21 pilots but more and for cars
and how can u get .42 of a driver
So real
The driver of a vehicle is the person who is driving it.
Why is clown trying to drive
Is this a solicitation
what vehicle is nvidia game ready?
Because he wants to honk his way through traffic but keeps juggling the pedals!
candy crush on the tesla display
Any news on if anything is changing in the PTS or just adding a map?
To my knowledge, it's just the map. There may be more information tomorrow before it starts.

@cosmic pilot search yxSanzu on YouTube I did a full length comp game dropping like 93 kills with camera on 
You wanted it, you go watch it
im curious what are the contour lines measured in?
Contour lines?
Where are the PTE info at?! I was hoping we’d get that before it drops.
No with HLL you get no information until the day of
Hi, y'all! I'm new here. Nice to meet you, guys!!!!
Welcome 
thx im trying to find some friends to play HLL
If you're pc, you can find folks to play with in #pc-looking-for-unit or find a clan to join in #pc-divisions-recruitment
thx so much bro
contour lines are the little lines on maps that looks like circles
The only known distances is the squares for quadrants which are 200m.
eh not really theres lines that show elevation too
Does anyone who has a server know where I can find information regarding VIP slots, how they work, how many can we have, etc?
How to mass upload, etc
I don't think there is a set measurement that is known. The topography lines aren't super obvious.
You could MAYBE make a guess but 🤷♀️
I think if you zoom in a bit more it shows either larger or smaller squares. Can’t remember
Yes, but they are always representing 200m
the ability to use 70fov makes this game slower and more realistic than s44
Bc irl you can see people at 150-200 meters away
70fov is closest to what you see in real life
depends on your screen size too, if you have a 27" or 32" you're gonna have a very different experience than if you have a 19" screen. I can snipe people pretty far away with 27" and 60 FOV
i notice most people dont even try engaging at the distances i do and that must have to do somewhat with people having higher FOVs
squad 44 doesnt let you go bellow 90 fov. This in turn makes the game more run and gun/fast pace and cuts out medium/long distance engagements that were used in ww2
oh yeah i really hate that about squad 44, plus the gameplay and action doesnt feel as fun nor give as much "good feedback", cant quite put my finger on why
i preffer how supression mechanics work on squad 44 too as in HLL its just a visual effect only and barely works with anything other than MGs or sniper rifles
if you get a rain of mp40 fire you should get some supression even if its a small caliber right...
ye i actually came back to HLL after playint s44 for a month or 2. I was looking for a more slower paced realistic game but its more run and gun/and faster in some ways
But Squad44 def has better uniforms, and supression/ more steps to do things
if s44 removes the zoom limit that might change things though
Ooooh nice. Any info on it?
HLL wouldn't let me connect for some reason, I had to replace my fix with Squad 44. I'm so glad HLL started working again. They need more updates for squad 44
His name is Hans Meinart, a German immigrant who fought in the US army during WWI
From late 1917 into occupation in 1919
Oh that’s awesome
Yeah, really unique backstory
I’ll send pics when I get it on display in the collection
Are servers getting DDOS'ed right now?
i prefer HLL but answers may be biased here 😅
anyone else consume meth when playing germans to increase immersion? 😂 jk
shout out to the player in one of my squads with the name "meth enthusiast"
Have they fixed the exp issues for EGS? Haven't really played since it went free since I had that bug. lol
cant find a channel for us servers
Haven't heard of people mentioning it recently, so you might be all set 🙏
As far as clans?
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/334495387484291083
https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/901308012575199262
If you mean in-game servers, there isn't an official directory apart from the server browser. However, check the link in the 2nd most recent pinned message here (PC servers)
anyone on pc wantin to play us servers im down for anything
went in there and saw tumbleweeds blowin around
Still the correct channel to ask in
shoutout to US east 48 for having a hacker that is ruining the match
whats the point of hacking in hll 😭
Getting kills and getting attention
the outposts we made were being instantly blown to pieces
thats low down bruh
it was weird
hacking in a realistic game is kinda crazy ngl
just votekick him lol are yall dum
80% of tarkov players are cheaters 🤓👆🏿
I didnt say it doesn't happen
🤓uhmm
🤓 Hey my name is toatl 🤓
🤓👆🏿.
Nah I’ve done a bag tho 💀
Keen on seeing some videos from the PTE
why does the new CM look a bit like ben shapiro
A better question would be why does he have pronouns in his bio 💀
It's nice that this upsets you enough to comment about it
Is that requirement?😅
who cares anyway? better ask, if the patch notes go live with the pte or before, i'm excited to get a glimpse of tobruk 🙂
That’s what I like about you, Dave
dave is having a blast playing chrome
Could be...
for all I care, Ben could also wear purple suit with tophat and monocle, while addressing everyone as "Ol' Chap".
Who cares - We got a new CM, thats what I'm happy about 
Patch notes will be going live at the same time as the PTE 🫡
Thank you guys. But i must admit that i have deceived you, for i am not actually playing Google Chrome but behold I am streaming a TV series while doing chores around the flat until the PTE drops.
average random squad leader
u betrayed us
Would it be HLL without weird development
No
It ain’t a good thing, but it’s HLL
getting the roadmap today certainly would be a love letter to the community seeing that it's valentines day and stuff 
Valentine sucks
I mean yea that would be super nice
But last week heard of the roadmap I don’t think it was anywhere close to finalizing
and that's why ben hopefully will embrace us today with rich news from the devs
watch it be 2023 one
Not sure about that, after all they would be late
2 weeks late
So we are getting the Story Mode after all?
I have no clue about game development, to me 2 weeks sounds rather long to finish up a roadmap but it could also be far more complicated than i imagine
along with the aa emplacements black matter promised? xD
T17 has shown themselves to be pretty incompetent so….
Thats never gonna happen
It runs for the entire weekend
Just like SPGs
Still do not understand what BM was smoking when they said they were adding this
Like how would this be added? Why would this be added? This would make commander calling absolutely useless
It's over the whole weekend 🙂 Will be closing Monday
Wish the PTE was free so I could hop in. It’d be fun to check it out
i don't know, i never witnessed a discussion in or out of game asking for this
That was a lot of BM stuff haha
They pretty much ignored player suggestions
Only later tho
I heard they were pretty good at the start of development
I mean I got in on the end of BM’s life cycle so I wouldn’t have known if they ever did
Guess I was misinformed
I only heard that so its not really bulletproof information😅
Ah
Its a bit like asking chat gpt something...
Lmao
No. Not really. Maybe up to update 5. After that the questionable decisions started
maaan HLL is so double sided
Basically the moment they introduced heavy tanks
a lot of the old players watch BM with big nostalgia glasses that's why the tend to glorify black matter although they weren't saints either
in one game you meet guys who dont speak english and cant even place an outpost
Then they went back and forth with nodes and garrisons
That makes sense
Heavy tanks the downfall if hll
in another game you meet a chill dude who's talkative and plays like a goat
Doubled down on immersion/novelty rather than gameplay
Not sure if thats really funny or just very sad
kinda reminded me of why its such a nice game
I don’t have that and quite regularly call out BM. A lot of the issues players have with the game are actually from BM, disregarding technical issues
Yea when I get those games I really enjoy the game. Sad that it’s like 1/10 matches
And then they went back on that pretty hard/ ignored that as well haha
People say HLL is “super immersive” and “Like a movie”
But I gotta ask, why do you think that? Because loud nosies and Roblox level of gibs?
This game is so boring and bland
That immersion suggestion post a while ago with the edited video showed what HLL could be and I can’t go back after it
They never stopped caring about immersion. They were obsessed with adding unique map locations and visuals thinking that that would automatically make gameplay better
BM was just an incompetent, inexperienced, and overhyped studio sadly
They didn’t allow themselves to grow or didn’t get the chance to
I would say its the oppsosite, usually the longer people play this game the worse there opinion about the devs get.😅
It also seems like they arent really hearing us...
I don't think so. Id say overambitious.
But now we have Ben so maybe it gets better.
That’s a good word as well
They bit off way more then they could chew
one of the T17 devs stated in one of the streams that BM's code was rather ... messy to put it nicely and they basically had to clean up/rewrite the game from scratch for a year, that paired with the lay offs etc and you have the current situation
And instead of eating a bit slower they ordered the full 5 course meal
Yea the spaghetti code has always caused issues and is one of the reasons HLL is so bad to work on/ play
They were very slow.
I’m still advocating for the game to relaunch and built from the ground up
No way that is happening
I know but I want it
This timeline is cursed but not that cursed.
But making a new faction with two maps, one in a new theatre of war and the other also with a ton of new assets, and simultaneously working on a third map (Kharkov), just is a massive undertaking
Again, super ambitious, but ultimately impractical
They really should have just focused on the US and fleshed out the maps a bit more before moving onto fully work on the next faction
Sov u mean?
Hm?
No before the Soviets
I’m still very of the opinion that the U.S. still needs some work along with the Germans
With how BM functioned they really should have just completed a faction 100% and then moved onto the next
That way they aren’t splitting work across to many factions
especially the germans could use a bit more variety. as the allies you have a bit more diversity through the different factions but with the axis ... well it's just germany on end
And my opinions kinda reinforced since T17 is struggling with BM’s workload
Subfactions the answer to that
Fallschirmjager, SS, Ostfront
Very blatantly obvious answer BM just refused to do
I wonder if they still plan on adding stuff for every year of the war, like the invasion of poland, winter war etc. that would be nice
Thats not gonna happen anymore
No that went out the window immediately. That’s way to ambitious for this studio
Im 99,999% sure of that
We’re only getting 2 maps a year. Theres no way we’re going year by year for the war
Nor do I think we’re getting Finland or Poland
we want more non main 5 maps
The wha?
main 5 nations, USA, Germany, USSR, UK, Japan
Ah
It’d be cool but that’d probably be saved for mods
i guess we will be getting italy as another faction, they could reuse a lot of assets for that, the US/British are already in game, probably would take the least amount of time and resources
and le french
Italy would be awesome to add but there’s just way to much to do
Japan 
I’m 99% certain that what we have is what we got. We aren’t getting a new front because BM and T17 spread themselves way too thin here
its not good, but americans are glazing it a lot bc of Pacific
The pacific would be really nice but for the love of god finish the european theater before that😂
French are kind of even worse
What are you talking about? What the hell is glazing
At the moment what I want the most is an urban map of the English so that the Thompson whit the drum can shine.
glazing = to over praise or over compliment
Oh
With the current speed they do maps thats gonna take like 7 years
sorry tik tok kinda rotted a part of my brain
I can tell
Star citizen gonna release before we get Pacific in hll
nah that ain't releasing
Honest and objective prediction of what you think will be on the roadmap
is it 12 for the pte drop in british time or does discord automatically converts this to my timezone?
Converts.
we are getting Norway
real
Narvik or what?
New DLC, unannounced map, bug fixes and QOL, and idk maybe a new weapon
Don't forget about new adaptations to skirmish mode
And even with that I’m still not believing it until it’s in the game. AND EVEN THEN I’m not believing it until it actually works
and fire selectors 🙏
The wha?
Yes
Pretty big pipe dream that
Skirmish mode available on more maps
The one that is just a point
Oh god please no let that gamemode die
I say that is what they are going to give us
i never played it so idk
i guess they probably have some data that the mode is being played otherwise they wouldn't keep adding maps to it
even the pte is late lol
🤮
What a surprise
Yeah with 8moths old roadmap XD
Can we get new roadmap with tobruk PTE please..
sup to yall
I just knew they're gonna delay it lmao
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
Is the delay to fix the Lewis gun? https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1334687307265081424
honestly what did you expect
totally
I think it’s good to have that variation but I think they need to find more alternatives, heck just take inspiration from what other games, actually having objectives which aren’t just capture points
Is it still not zeroed???
2 years and counting.
😭 😭
brits released 2 years ago 💀
Have nothing better to do today.
Are there Italians in Tobruk?
tbf i never would’ve noticed unless its pointed out, its not that deep
now i'm feeling old thanks xD
Is it small delay
same
You can go to the gym for example, always a good choice
??
No, it can't be 😭
Well they said it’s a small delay so I’d suppose so 💀
im not sure but someone said Lewis gun hasn't been fixed for 2 years soo..
look at mr shadowmharsal having is life together and stuff😜
boooooooring
@fluid pawn Why are you doing this to us? Why are you playing with our feelings like this? I know you're just the one who's breaking the news to us. But the damage is already done.
lol
Tf is this message 😭 😭
Leg injury, no sport until next week unfortunately.
bros treating it like a game update delay is torture
ben disappointed him on valentine's, i think he is breaking up with him
I would answer with a very specific and funny gif, sadly, I do not have such privileges
hell let loose is his coping mechanism on valentines 😭
That sucks, hope you get better soon
Ben’s 2 days into the job and he’s already been stitched up 😂
I feel bad for Ben bro
Stop panic
he’s just gonna get harassed by a bunch of players that don’t understand how his job works
we shall find solace in our communal suffering
You don't understand my pain
I do
nah i think ppl are pretty normal here
its mostly joking
you’d be surprised
Thanks.
eyes twitching “normal”
🫃
i was gonna say reseonable vut idk to spell it so
the subreddit on the other hand ...
Reasonable
I dare not go near it
Reusable I think
Use the translator
I saw some funny art on it but that’s about it, I don’t really use Reddit anymore
"I hate epic gamers 🤬 " Average Steam player in the servers I play lol
This is what I do for very long messages.
too lazy
stupid epiicers
Behold! The big Ben is typing!
For you it will be lazy, for me it is a time saving
Yehhh there’s been loads of that, I’m gonna be real it’s a bit of a skill issue on their part, like, if you need people to defend, get rid of offence garris and boom, they’ll defend, if you need them to push, just place an offence garri and they will
hi ben
Just waiting for the servers to kick in. Hopefully won't be too delayed ☺️
You could upload your mind into the internet and become the translator. And since your on it also assimilate humanity
Don't try to fix it now, it will never be the same again.
lol
I have not enough oxygen to breath , Tobruk was delayed
I hope there are gameplay tweaking included in the PTE, because I will loose hope for any substantial changes if there aren't
He watches over us, and lets us know when it is time for 
So, a delay of a hour or two then?
I stole all your oxygen
Wouldn’t it be Ben big? his user is Ben B
Yes
You expect to much haha
🤔
the evil big ben
Ben the big
That explains everything
I don't think so lol
Today we gonna get it or no?
honestly that joke was an accident, didn't noticed it after the fact
Or u just uploading new build and after launch PTE
Oh you’re new here. don’t worry you’ll learn, but I hope I’m proven wrong
the Ben lore runs deeper than we realise
they are adding bunny hopping
New? Lol I've been here for more than a year now, and have been participating in this sh*t-show that is the #1098158460463480842 channel for this much
Oh didn’t notice haha
i shall consult the royal archives! fare thy well! xD
It is confirmed
Well then we’ll hope together
I always first plays PTE
The bunny hop is coming
Farewell!! We must find the truth!!!
is this the live preview
Add crossplay so I can farm console players to 🗣️ 🔥 🔥
I remember you well
I leave an impression apparently
Is this gameplay from pte?
they added bunny skin for Easter
That sounds like a threat lol
When?
Ngl I wouldn’t mind them trialing this for a weekend since Greg said all they need to do is flick a switch to allow full crossplay
Be interesting to see how
It affects the game
If you know, you know lol
its for the easter 2022 its just late a lil
Is this confirmation that the Blitz is coming together with planes, aa and stuff
If it wasn’t before it is now
Time to Gaslight, Gatekeep, and Girlboss
Thats weird, Sony is a btch with crossplay, I suppose HLL is not that important for them.
I remember DE having to fight Sony for years over crossave
That’s actually really interesting, I think they actually could try that to see feedback from players, because if it ends up being overwhelmingly positive they should just keep it lol
They’ve become much more open over the years so I doubt it’s to much trouble
Yea
Definitely would populate the overall game more
I think that in Tobruk will be fresh assets
u have to thank Fortnite for that
And map at all will look very fresh and new
Yep
We'd have even more clasism 🔥 🔥
I bet it’s a mix of some of the new stuff they made recently and original stuff, that’s my guess
Separate the community FURTHER
I can remember you as well😒
Map delayed, so maybe they adding new Sd Kfz 222 for DAK?
i believe in flamer support superiority 🔥
xD just kidding
From factory; new
And it coming from factory, so why delayed
Thats one cute bunny for real
i guess it will be more last minute optimization
I would love to have AA machineguns on top of tanks for anti-infantry purpose
Delivering it, so until it would delivered to Tobruk, we will get it
You mean mounted MGs?
I just love playing HLL while railing fat lines of blow.
Anti tank half track 
Cause mounted MG’s and AA guns are very different
Just a not garryson halftrack
Tank destroyers 
AA ?
You cooking
exactly yeh forgot to mention that part
Basically, .50 cal on Shermans and top mounted MG34 on german panzers
No I want an actual radio mounted halftrack to replace the current halftrack so we can actually use halftracks
Anti-air
I mean Halftracks would still be basically useless because of the amount of rockets but it’s the thought that counts
So many halftrack in our halftrack conversation
I know , but it never was mounted on tanks
Yea so just mounted MGs. Same for me
It was on Jeeps or on tank platform
cries in 8.8 cm Flak 36
The MGs they had mounted were designed for anti-aircraft defense.
It was general defense
imagine shooting infantry with that
.50 cal MG on shermans were conceived as AA
while some idiot is running with lunge mine to your commander
Literal Tiger
For example, the Shermans had the 50 in the rear of the turret to have a greater angle towards the sky.
I CALLED IT
Who called for a medic?
It’s so over
when is faster building coming
embed fail
Laugh at this user
New AI that makes discord comments?

Who the hell???
thats john hell let loose, he said it so its true
Hit markers? What do you meant , Ben ?
Wouldn’t be suprised but just as an FYI don’t call them AA guns because they very much aren’t, even if they were used to shoot at planes
John hell let loose is crazy 😭
Pink stars when you hit an enemy
It’s not COD
Not yet
I'm going to be so disappointed if Tobruk has the same orange-yellowish sand like el alemein
Hell yea
they were designed to take down planes, but they were used against anything really, like full purpose AA platforms like the german flak 8.8cm
Now it's going to be
The AI bot is going crazy. Making up messages is wild behaviour
Check the pictures of the map bro
Cringe
Remember to place your Outposts and Garrisons!
Shut it down, it’s gone rogue
Maybe you are an AI after all 👀
Yes I understand but actual AA guns and Mounted MG’s meant to shoot at planes are very different things and calling them AA guns is misleading and misinformation
You are a bot, respect your species
Could be different weather types
Skynet?
That would be sick
Well what if I don’t huh? I’ll leave that for the commander
is that what B in Ben B is?? BEN BOT
I forgot they’ve been doing that recently
take
😬
On a clear sunny day, should look like Squad's middle eastern maps where the sand is a very fadded colour
I mean they said they were doing it for Elsenborne but that got disabled sooo…
add aeroplanes
Can you give us the roadmap maybe?🥲
i want the dipshits from bf to come to this game
We have to try it
Searching for Map of Roads
Unironically I do want them to replace the US spotting plane with the piper since that was what the plane was used for
Add the Sturmtiger
Oh hey jerhico
Howdy!
You also waiting for the PTE to release?
they should add war crimes to the game yk
Found it yet?
it would be way more realistic
I'm the war crimes
I am eagerly waiting!
You can shot medics when they ar healing
Thats a war crime
but there aren't any civilians :(
also the shotgun tearing ppl in half at 100m is def a war crime
There should be an option for dropping your weapons so I could do more detailed war crimes
That the new tobruk map?
this is a joke please don't hell let loose me
That’s not a road or a map. Keep looking
yea
Then burn them whit the flametrower
Did you draw this @noble plume? Your MS Paint skills are improving
🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🧼
@noble plume PLEASE! Give us Leaks of future updates
Wrong year though.
Maps, uniforms, factions , content
There are literally roads and a maps on it 👀
@noble plume
If Pinocchio says his nose will grow now, what happens
Shh I’m trying to manipulate it into leaking HLL stuff
@noble plume Give here any information about future content in Hell let Loose
Let's ask him for pictures of feet instead
🗿
can we get feet pics
done
Asking for robot feet is crazy ngl
HLL medic bot, are you Drew?
Bot isn't intelligent ben is controlling it 🕵️
please god let this new map be 1/10 as good as SME and im happy
That's black
You are Jericho
Can we see kitten soup?
Fake AI. I can’t believe you would do this HLL Bot
if its just another "let me place random assets in a way that is aesthetically pleasent to me boss" map, we honestly need to have a talk about legacy map only servers

Lol
A cat made this soup?
im just listening to orders o7
It's taking our attention away from the delay
That’s literally every community server haha
What a master mind you have, well
psst, the download is live
Are there gonna be Italians in Tobruk?
Wait what? Where’s the announcement then?
i wish
see last update...
I've not had the go ahead yet that it's live live
Let me get some confirmation
Guys download it
Ah
4 GB of feet pictures?
I don’t know but it started downloading
I have recently seen a comment of Ben B saying we are getting crossplay, sadly i cant find it now. Could you be so nice and give me a Screenshot of his comment?
Alr, it’s downloading
No crossplay please
2025 Roadmap when ?
I wanna see if the AI can help, let him Cook.
Is PTE out?
Thats not ben Ben is more handsome
Say something in the honeypot i dare u
Not yet 🫡
Oha, dont stand up or you gonna slip on all that slime.
medic bot is the honeypot, so be careful what you say to it!
What is the 4 gb update then ? 😂
That not Ben B i meant and i wanted the discord comment of the crossplay conformation.
I really don’t know what I’m downloading on PTE
Pictures of feet
maybe it is Tobruk, maybe it’s not