mess-hall

[visual niche]

but I wish I did so I can troubleshoot myself so I know lol

[uneven badge]

that reminds me of Elite Dangerous LOL the console servers are almost dead so they always work

ill ask one of the drill instructors in my Reg on my next day off i guess about testing eng dmg

[visual niche]

well DM if you need, the chunk is usually due to display driver corruptions, and/or windows updates (or lack thereof), as well as the VCS++ runtimes

the game doesnt have a lot of fault tolerance unfortunately it seems

so its a great system troubleshooting tool if anything

[analog apex]

so, 12 AT rifle hits to destroy and LT
16 for a medium
18 for a heavy
rear hits ofc

and btw. I had no idea that AT rifle ammo is being resupplied by the normal ammo box and not by the ordnance one
not sure how to find out the numbers for the engine destruction without having somebody else's help

[uneven badge]

yeah only thing im missing is the eng dmg part as well

also at rifle wont pen everywhere

[analog apex]

yep

[uneven badge]

except recon

also need to test integrity of lt turret only hits

[analog apex]

we could combine our forces to do these tests

[uneven badge]

im working the next few days

[analog apex]

I am going to be away for the weekend too

[uneven badge]

i dont have next weeks status so im not signed up for SnS yet either

[analog apex]

SNS... our Slovak National Party maybe? 😄

[covert elbow]

I mean you could just go into the practice range and shoot the tanks there

[visual niche]

SnS is the sunday FnF right?

[uneven badge]

aye

[visual niche]

I love a good FnF, haven't done SnS

[analog apex]

what is it?

[visual niche]

Friday night fights silly

[analog apex]

ah, right

[uneven badge]

im not good enough for the apl team but i do like to be abreast of most tactical info

[visual niche]

I'm a competitive watcher, never played but enjoy the show

[uneven badge]

im hardware limited imho

[visual niche]

mines a skill issue mainly lol

[uneven badge]

been with the guys i play with a bit over a year and a half

[uneven badge]

how so?

[visual niche]

good shooters, teamwork focused

I'm teamwork focused, but lone wolf idk if that makes sense

[uneven badge]

pathfinder/recon eh?

[visual niche]

yeah pretty much 😅 I like to be on a roving defense

[uneven badge]

oh a defensive probe

[visual niche]

nip those flanks in the bud

[uneven badge]

couple FnFs ive seen SUPER wide manouvers. stuff was crazy (im not naming names)

[visual niche]

last week thats all I did was beeline airheads and sup drops haha

very wide 👀

[uneven badge]

i probably shouldnt ask which division as im probably not gonna respond with the one the reg im in plays in

[visual niche]

i just sign up with clans that still have space usually

[uneven badge]

oh a merc?

[visual niche]

and are available to the public

[visual niche]

yeah I guess, its usually a last minute plan on my part anyways haha

[uneven badge]

reg im in is in the HLL wiki

thats how i found em after coming back after a couple year hiatus then going console to PC

(i still play with DS4 unless im going long range)

[visual niche]

oh nice, yeah I mean they're usually pretty even and consistent.. never really seen a streamroll

i just like having that non-public match every once in awhile

[uneven badge]

tonight was hella fun, split our guys up and open server to pubs. usual wed night fun

[visual niche]

thats the way to do it!

[uneven badge]

every wed we do it

[visual niche]

so is that WnW?

*legally?

[uneven badge]

i gotta go dogs are booping at me and its -8f

[visual niche]

have a good one! see you in one of the fight events hopefully haha

[analog apex]

won't help with the numbers for destroying the engine

as we can't switch teams to check the status of the shot tank

[covert elbow]

Ah I see

You would need that to know the exact number

[analog apex]

2 pees would be needed at the very least - together in one team so the other can take AT class

then the non-AT to switch to the enemy team to bring a tank and monitor the damage

[visual niche]

so 3 ppl

[analog apex]

nope, the non-AT guy can switch to enemy team after one guy took the AT class

so 2

[visual niche]

ahhhh

[uneven badge]

3 preferrably so Commander can spawn heavies after checking lt & Med

[analog apex]

not too much of a problem to spawn as CMD, spawn a tank and switch to tank commander

the 3rd player would have nothing to do most of the time anyway

[visual niche]

i call that role

[uneven badge]

i was thinking commander can use admin cam to check shot placement but....

[analog apex]

the AT guy should be capable of shooting the place where he is supposed to alone

[uneven badge]

oh yeah, dogs were booping bc they killed a coyote

(great pyrenees)

my big dog fought a bear and won lol

[visual niche]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-that-what-is-happening-sam-neill-remove-sunglasses-gif-15770358

[uneven badge]

anyway, yeah shot placement is also key to check for dmg modifiers like the weak spots on a firefly

also to see if it does ENG dmg from the side on a PzIV through the road wheels

[visual niche]

you might not have a dog btw

theres a chance its a tiger or something lol

[uneven badge]

no no, the neighbor gave his bengal tigers to place in minnesota

bears didnt come around here till he gave his tigers away

its 02:34 local, im friggin beat. maybe ill see yall on the battlefield

[visual niche]

Ill help but not today

[thick fox]

why servers crashing????

[simple dust]

anyone wanna help me run a tank crew?

[arctic rampart]

Hmm interesting

Someone from this dc just hops into my dm's and asks "Age?"

Being the average internet enjoyer, I give him the number 15 in hopes he's a interesting individual and will catch on the bait

[noble aurora]

if hes in this dc, wouldnt he just see this and know youre baiting him?

[arctic rampart]

Not anymore sadly, he asked "to play hll numb nuts", even though idfk know the guy nor' have I signed up to be in any meme discord unit.
After I said "idfk what you're on about" he proceeded to block me out of the blue 😦

[gaunt tangle]

Interesting

[gaunt tangle]

Even more interesting

[still valve]

Hey guys i just started playing the game. If there's any clan/team beginner friendly i would love to join them.

[visual niche]

Quite a few in https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/334495387484291083 🙂

[still valve]

Thanks mate

[arctic rampart]

Poggers, just got my Wooting 80HE

[tight fog]

🫡

[burnt cobalt]

hi

[keen drum]

i think the world is healing

[rare sphinx]

why do half the squads not even have a mic

[wooden dust]

my antialiasing is bad, everything's pixely at a distance, but every fix calls for editing the engine.ini file that you can't access anymore. is there any other way?

[wooden dust]

i've put only antialising and view distance to epic btw

[neat flume]

How’s everyone doing

[pseudo rock]

Good u ?

[neat flume]

Haven’t slept somehow awake 😅💀

[pseudo rock]

You been on the redbulls/monsters 😂

[neat flume]

Nah beers and ADHD 😅

[pseudo rock]

😂😂

Fair enough lol

[neat flume]

Feck I just realized I’ve been up since 6am yesterday 😅

I probably shouldn’t be sharpening knives when I’m half asleep but I’m Canadian so we don’t really care 💀🇨🇦🤘

[half haven]

Such is life in the zone...

[red stump]

people that think canadians are nice and polite don't know enough about WW1

[little mesa]

bro ik why it's never been developed or tried to be implemented by obvious reasons. but why no game that's about warfare doesn't include in any way the navy? yea we got air force and land forces but the navy is really never there lol

and yea there's war thunder and world of warships etc. but like how cool would it be to have a navy branch in hll or any other game like this xD?

It would have been cool on Company of heroes honestly but they seem like they will never add navy units xd. i'm just messing around with idea tbh dont take me seriously

[wintry thistle]

Navy is less prominent on land. The most the navy usually does is bombard targets for a coming attack, usually inaccurately

[little mesa]

yeee

[restive igloo]

Try playing dead ahead on Roblox if you don’t mind Roblox
Give it a chance

[little mesa]

but what about the pacific??? if they would add the japanese vs us conflict they could use the idea?

[little mesa]

i will see xd

[wintry thistle]

Even in the pacific it wouldn't be much use

[little mesa]

That's true. i just watched this movie greyhound from tom hanks last night so that's why i came with this ideas xD

[half haven]

That is a fun game, there's also Warthunder Naval...

[restive igloo]

Yea

[half haven]

Though, you only play Naval to grind out SL with a Moffet.

[restive igloo]

But if they bring pacific in hll doing a banzai charge with your entire team would be really fun

https://tenor.com/view/banzai-tennohenkaibanzai-anime-gif-24085532

[little mesa]

i also saw this game U-boat

it's pretty old but looks cool

[split lynx]

whats the best shadow quality for hell let loose?

is it Low? I heard it lets you see enemy faster

but im not sure if its true

[little mesa]

tbh idk i just set my graphics for best performance

but i know if u set grass to low u can see enemies trying to noclip through the bushes 😂

[split lynx]

wait rly?

but does it look bad?

[split lynx]

thanks so much xD

never knew this

[little mesa]

ofc it will

[split lynx]

[little mesa]

well i think but ik u can see the enemies from afar

[split lynx]

ill try it

[little mesa]

that's such a nasty move bro 😂

[split lynx]

xD

who cares if i get kills

eheehhehehee

[red stump]

killing people doesn't matter in this game

[little mesa]

that's true

[pseudo hornet]

Any news about the roadmap?

[worthy charm]

We will get it as as possible, but not much more.

[worthy charm]

From when is this?

And how tf didnt I saw that.😢

[cosmic pilot]

Road gonna be built before the road map is done 💀

[fleet agate]

Hellos

[keen drum]

sound:0:2

[fleet agate]

Is there a new update soon?

[shadow bronze]

release the roadmap or else

[river rover]

No soup for you...

[cedar arrow]

guys why there a dude teamkill me deliberately ? why is this happen to me ?

[shadow bronze]

i'd let it slide, he's probably just upset we don't have a roadmap yet

[river rover]

How did you look at him? 😛

[cedar arrow]

sound fair enough

[half haven]

Is there any reason why a friendly would attempt to shoot down an allied Transport truck 4 seconds after match warm up?

Had to dodge the damn Bazooka Rockets from killing us.

[cedar arrow]

what going on with this game lately ? team killing , laggy server , abuse voice chat ?

[half haven]

Bavaria

[waxen quail]

Still no roadmap…

[slate canopy]

Either trolling or genuinely don't know about the TK system?

[bitter cliff]

How is an admin of Soulsniper server

I want to talk them now

Who

[eager crypt]

When was this? At this rate, we’ll have the roadmap for the year at the end of it…

[arctic rampart]

Go to their server and make a ticket or something. This place has nothing to do with it

[bitter cliff]

Are you one and no I ment in hell

not discord

[past vortex]

obviously youd have to go to hell for that

[arctic rampart]

No, I am not an admin on soulsnipers servers.

[mighty pebble]

Any 1S1B clan members in here?

[long relic]

Do at guns have ap/he shells or r the shells multipurpose

[arctic rampart]

It's just AP and you blast anything that moves with it

[bitter cliff]

Bs stupid admins getting banned for telling you want to tk with out actaully tking thats is dumb

[arctic rampart]

Nah' not really

Sounds pretty sensible

[bitter cliff]

Yeah if i wnet through with a tk then he has everyright to but I didnt

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, but why bother risk a crappy situation if he can just fully avoid it with 0 loss

[bitter cliff]

Why ban somone for an empty threat

[arctic rampart]

Because it can become full

Simple as that

[bitter cliff]

Wrong give a minute if I do it I very right too be banned if dont well dont

Its called being fair

[arctic rampart]

It's not wrong xD

[bitter cliff]

screw off

You want to talk to me dm me

[arctic rampart]

Like brother, if someone walked up to some cops and said they're gonna bomb a public area, you think they'd just let you go and see if you actually carry through?

[bitter cliff]

Not dms not gonna anwser it

[arctic rampart]

In the game, as a player, you're 100% replacable. There's another 20k people that can fill the slot. Why bother risking someone having a negative experience then dealing with a report and everything else if they can just remove the root of the issue before it even blooms.
Problem solved, admins completely in the right.
Your furry bum is just cracked out if you think any other way

[past vortex]

i guess they expected a competency issue

[arctic rampart]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

[past vortex]

i mean... that you come here instead of going to their discord...

[bitter cliff]

why join a dicord just to leave it after a day no point

[arctic rampart]

I can provide many reasons for that

And in your case seems to be a very big one

[river rover]

Today.

[long relic]

So I gotta actually aim it against inf?

[arctic rampart]

Yes

But it's situational

[native musk]

hey

[bitter cliff]

1 didnt ask you and two its for an hour not really a big deal

[arctic rampart]

Then what are you coming in here for to look for an admin if it's a small deal?

[vernal apex]

Sounds like you got vote kicked

[bitter cliff]

nah it was insta banned ngl kinda funny now

[vernal apex]

vote kicks can lead to bans as well

[bitter cliff]

Neat

[arctic rampart]

Isn't it the case that you don't even see yourself if you have a votekick against you?

Cause it smells like he had one

[vernal apex]

these bans are always an hour and most admins don't ban for an hour as its kinda pointless

[bitter cliff]

Nope it was not vot kick but hey lesson learned screw solid for being well him

[arctic rampart]

So it's probably completely unrelated to the whole threat thing

[vernal apex]

You don't see while the vote is happening, you see it on the kick/ban screen

[vernal apex]

well, his team must likely didn't like that

[bitter cliff]

Yall werent there so dont really have a say what happen

[arctic rampart]

True, but I mean, most of the time vote kicks don't even go through on legit griefers, what's the chance they vote kicked some dude somewhere on the map, saying something. Quite slim

[bitter cliff]

but It was insant and doesnt really matter

[dusty lichen]

So, where do we find some HLL community or something where You can eventually find people to squad up, use microphones etc? Expected it to be on this Discord, but seems thats not the case.
Location: Europe
Found that other discord that is organizing events but realized they are US only

[formal dagger]

Co ai viet nam khong

Lap doi choi chung ne

[amber ingot]

vc doesnt work for me (i can't speak) on pc suddenly, it worked like a week ago for me, is there a fix or is it a bug for all platforms?

[stark thistle]

So, I recently downloaded Hell Let Loose, and I keep running into this problem Patched windows boot loader detected [Kernel Patch Protection disabled] But when I enable KPP, I have to delete the anticheat which causes me to run into another problem, that problem being {anticheat not downloaded} Someone please help me I'm on my wits ends, and I just paid 30 USD for this game.

[pseudo rock]

any news on roadmap 2025?

[past veldt]

[arctic rampart]

#pc-looking-for-unit

[past veldt]

We're in touching distance for season

[thin lotus]

The devs have almost begun considering to think about planning to start brainstorming the roadmap.
Pls b patient

[native ridge]

where can i find people that are looking for a group to play with?

[arctic rampart]

#pc-divisions-recruitment

[prisma sleet]

.

[covert elbow]

“The team have concepts of a plan”

[worthy charm]

The have a play how to get the plan?

[analog apex]

"a plan to start brainstorming" 😄

it's like getting ready to get ready to get ready to get ready to do something

[golden orchid]

They’ll first play all WW2 games of past 20 yrs to get a rough idea

[analog apex]

one thing's for sure, they don't play their own product

[past vortex]

most programmers dont

but does the community manager ?

[covert elbow]

The devs? Actually playing the game? Don’t be silly will

[thin lotus]

“I don’t play the game because I can see everything wrong with it”
Actual quote

Unintentionally hilarious

[worthy charm]

I just read my own sentence and saw how I got everything wrong...

Im kinda impressed by myself sometimes

[worthy charm]

No way they said that

[silk igloo]

they did try to change it with indestructible garris though, and got huge backlash for it. lose/lose situation

i figure players, being able to play the game more than the devs, got comfortable with the meta faster than devs could find it themselves, and then it was too late

[thin lotus]

Yeah that’s the thing. Doesn’t matter what any devs think if most of the playerbase is already fine with aspects of the game, no matter how bad these things actually are.

[tribal forge]

Refund it before you play to much

[thin lotus]

The devs aren’t going to create more work for themselves if they don’t need to. Still doesn’t make the shortcomings any more acceptable however

[stark thistle]

I can’t even play?

[silk igloo]

eh, i got my moneys worth a thousand times over and the game did get us to care, we wouldn't be here otherwise innit

[tribal forge]

No idea you said you have a problem. If it's not fixed I'd refund it before you cant

[stark thistle]

Ok I appreciate it

[thin lotus]

Every single iteration towards making the game better, particularly in its gameplay loop, was ALWAYS met with vocal groups screaming “REVERT IT ! STOP CHANGING THE GAME!”

[tribal forge]

You have 2 hours to play on steam after that you won't get a refund.

Little cheese myself paying for this game and finding out a ton of people got it for free just recently and all these free players aparently made the game not as fun by not using voip

[analog apex]

yup, but just because it took the devs way too long to change it so the players go used to the current state at that time

[covert elbow]

Yea. It was more so in the context of him just seeing all the different things they could add and change but it’s still a quote that sums up the game perfectly

[covert elbow]

Running speed was a big one

[thin lotus]

As did I. I find the game incredibly boring though. It was bearable when there was still a shred of hope that things would still be built upon, but now ehhhhhhh

[covert elbow]

It was absolutely overtuned at first but we needed a speed increase and then version we have now is perfect

[analog apex]

like now for example... people have got used to build the nodes in the HQs. I am sure they will consider it annoying if this would be changed and the nodes would be needed in the active combat zone where there would be a possibility of them Engineers to die while trying to build them up.

[covert elbow]

Not to slow, not to fast. Now all they need to do is add sprint and stamina to to along with it

[analog apex]

But I have no clue whose sick idea it was for the garrison building to have a 2m long cooldown before one is able to build another garrison... in SKIRMISH.

[covert elbow]

Wait that’s a thing?

[analog apex]

yep - in SKIRMISH, if you build a garrison (forward post or whatever it's called there), you have to wait for 2 minutes before being able to build another

[tacit bane]

<@&365680483276816385> Why is my post in https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/901308012575199262 being flagged and rejected?

[past veldt]

the developer who said it also said he just doesn't really like playing FPS games. it's not really a surprise that he wasn't going to play the game with anything except a developers mindset

[cyan saddle]

the developer who said it also hasn't been involved with the project anymore for a few years now

[noble aurora]

L dev

[thin lotus]

He sold the IP. Good for him, anyone of sane mind would’ve done it

[cyan saddle]

Made a game, made it incredibly popular despite all the weird things he said and did, and then bailed at the right time with a few million bucks in his pockets.

He has outsmarted us all

[silk igloo]

we'll still berate him about airheads in heaven, for eternity. at what cost?

[analog apex]

some would say he scammed us

didn't deliver stuff even from their own last roadmap

and didn't comment on in while he was leaving

[cyan saddle]

Most certainly just a case of overambition

[analog apex]

or a well calculated action

[cyan saddle]

And to actually believe all of it you'd have to be shortsighted

[analog apex]

he must have known very well, that he was going to sell out before the roadmap could be done

[visual niche]

Take the embedded link out I think

[cyan saddle]

Yeah automod aint liking those

[tacit bane]

Thanks! That was it 😄

[visual niche]

Yeah sorry, it's the "steam gift 50$" scam links 😔

[lucid tusk]

"And we're gonna do AA tanks! It's gonna be awesome! ...what do you mean why? Because we can, watch this space!

Also I quit"

[cold meadow]

$$$

[late junco]

Where do all vets play in EU these days?

[analog apex]

I usually play at PBS as I know people the most there. During the december I played at 13SNC.

[thin lotus]

BM’s departure gave a very “Of Mice and Men” vibe with what they promised would come.

One thing that was true however was their insistence that the dev handoff wouldn’t mean a change to the game, that much is true lol

[lucid tusk]

God help T17 if they ever changed "the core identity" of HLL

[analog apex]

I have been putting together "Team17's dirty laundry", aka every stuff they implemented or touched that has remained broken or half baked to this day. And the list is getting ridiculously long and I still keep remembering something missing and so I add it there each time... way too long list.

The list so far is like...

• the update in which Team17 added logging for dev purposes, has spread the (originally Stalingrad-only) stuttering to all the maps but didn't disappear when the logging was supposedly removed afterwards
• the server browser update that hasn't included the most important and most demanded thing - to filter by maximum ping and max players
• free-look so limiting and yet there are 1st person animations when we can see through the holes of our own shoulders, when looking sideways
• the "Click to continue to main menu" causes problems and still sometimes resets all the settings and saved cosmetics
• the Commander role is unavailable in the shooting range
• dynamic weather that makes the fog constantly flicker every once in a while
• indoor sounds that are still often getting broken and stay sound as indoors despite we get outdoor
• sounds blocked by obstacles often make them sound like they were much furhter away or from different angle
• loaodut presets that are still buggy in more than 1 way (pre-selected preset doesn't necessarilly show the correct uniform on our guy as actually some other preset is selected, just the UI shows the wrong one)
• flickering deployment screen's tacMap when a spawnpoint lost or created since the U16
• the infamous vaulting/climbing overhaul of Team17's that has caused and still makes players teleport high far above the vaulting spot for split of a second quite sometimes during the vaulting
• SKIRMISH capture progress bar with a grey part and wrong (always red) colour when hiding/showing the HUD with T
• SKIRMISH forwards posts limit of 6, but on certain maps the counter is broken and we can build even 9

• in SKIRMISH, we are facing the wrong direction when spawning, on certain maps while we are supposed to be turned to the objective's direction at all times
• 2m cooldown between building the forward posts in SKIRMISH, something nobody ever wanted as it is something that makes it hard for those few hard-working garii-builders who usually carry the rest of the team that doesn't build anything
• gunsights of certain British weapons have been misaligned even after Team17's overhaul of it
• new uniforms have the medic arm patch just as a cheap texture and not an actual moddeled armPatch
• the Oak leaf cap has looked like plastic material despite it was a paid DLC
• the grenade throwing bug was fixed only function-wise as we can throw the grenade now, but the animation problem has been untouched and it can F-up the throw as it distracts as it doesnm't play the throwing animation correctly
• Elsenborn filled with many objects that have bad hitboxes
• Driel map where we can pass through the Rhine river everywhere
• many El Alamein rocks still allow us to spawn inside them if OP too close or an airhead inside them
• in every update they managed to break something on the maps (missing hedgerows, misplaced hedgerows, random terrain elevation brush stroke, artillery gun inside the terrain preventing from beign able to rotate it, missing houses, missing grass on whoel map, rotated train rails, invisible walls inside the houses, broken aligment of assets' textures etc. and etc.)

it's helluva lot of bad stuff

and the list keeps expanding

not to mention the bugs I reported them even a year ago and they haven't touched any of them (except for the map-related ones) - that list is pretty long too, but I won't be listing it here right now

[thin lotus]

“Core identity of HLL”

😬

Truly cringe

[analog apex]

like... what identity? They haven't really shared their clear vision for the game yet.

and so far it has felt like that little toy car with little engine that keeps bumping into the walls and changes/turns to random directions each time

[lucid tusk]

Back when they did the speed increase, that was the opposition argument

[bitter cliff]

So why don't servers appear in my server browser like 7th cav or blood sweat and beers

I've played on these before

[past vortex]

they probably banned you :}

(check your filters)

[arctic rampart]

Nah', it's probably just the server browser being dogwater again.
Had many times when servers magically disappear and need to refresh to have them pop up

[worthy charm]

Broooooooooo, I am 1000% sure thats the biggest wall of text by far I ever saw.

https://tenor.com/view/lovesick-this-big-big-like-this-gif-19466516

[worthy charm]

Only saying the truth

[arctic rampart]

We still live in times of cencorship

[past vortex]

lsts of bugs tend to grow big

[worthy charm]

frfr

[past vortex]

nice to have tho

[arctic rampart]

Can still add more to that list. Like spawning inside of stuff is not just in El Alamein, it happens on many maps and many models when OP's are placed close to them.
Also engines being randomly turned off when someone else has driven even though they never turned them off etc.

[noble aurora]

bro the amount of buildings ive been trapped in bc of this lemme tell you..

[arctic rampart]

Like 10

[analog apex]

I wish it was shorter, but the devs has made sure it isn't

[past vortex]

and its on top of what was never ok

[analog apex]

yes but that is not a product of Team17, I believe those were introduced while BM was still at the helm

[arctic rampart]

Could be, but there's no point categorizing them in ways of bm screwing up or T17. They're bugs that should've been fixed a loooong time ago and still haven't.
Like that post from #1211680595143426108, has so many old bugs in it, it's insane.

[analog apex]

as I said at the end of that huge block of text... I have another list of bugs I have reported (and are not just T17 but of MB's that T17 didn't fix) and stayed untouched... these are included in that list

[arctic rampart]

I also don't get how we've had xbox players literally yelling at the top of their lungs that voip is straight up broken beyond any recognition on xbox and nothing's been done about it.

[past vortex]

they use a 3rd party voip

[analog apex]

that's the thing... they are. There are quite a number of that topic's stuff in the #1098158460463480842 or #1211680595143426108 .

but it seems they are being thoroughly ignored like the rest of us

[arctic rampart]

Yeah, it's been on the border of spam since the new year xD

[shadow bronze]

🥺 🙏 Day 53101325831290 of asking for Team17 to open steam workshop & modding support for HLL

We are literally asking you to allow us to fix the small things for you. Just keep making maps and new content - we'll take care of the rest 🫡

[arctic rampart]

I somehow feel like that has a lesser of a chance to happen then the pacific

[analog apex]

"but, but... dividing the playerbase"
and other BS some people use as a (empty) counter argument (even the possibility of a hardcore mode is rejected by them usually)

[shadow bronze]

I have never seen steam workshop availability divide a playerbase

there are decade old games that are only still alive because of workshop and modding support

just let people make whatever - the players decide what is good and what rises to the top 🤷‍♂️

[arctic rampart]

No, that's fine, always has.
Right now the game also has plenty of plasyers where it doesn't matter

[shadow bronze]

look at Galactic Contention in Squad, or Global Escalation

I'm sure there are plenty of mods that people have made for that game that don't get played because they're not as polished or good. It only adds to Quality of Life for the playerbase and variation for consistent players

[arctic rampart]

But last time I checked, no one would be hyped to download like 20 gigs worth of mods just to play on a server. I mean right now we even see a few complains here and there about long times to get on decent servers

[shadow bronze]

See the galactic contention point above

32G mod for Squad - consistently has a thousand players a day on servers that run it

🤷‍♂️

Life is good - but it can be better

[analog apex]

only as long as the devs allow it to be

Squad / SQ44 devs are open minded and are constantly talking to their playerbase a great deal. Not like in here.

[noble aurora]

idk how i did it and i wna try to replicate it soon but, after i threw my first smoke grenade i was able to somehow skip the anim of the second smoke so i was effectively able to throw 2 smokes within a second or two of each other(only counting the time from when the 1st smoke left my hand, to the time the 2nd smoke left my hand was a bout 1s-2s). somehow, theres a bug out there that you can skip the 5-8 smthn second animation for throwing grenades lol

[arctic rampart]

Nade anims have been buggy since... ever

[shadow bronze]

offworld is an anomaly i'll admit

But most games with workshop availability don't communicate with their playerbases like that and there are still widely appreciated custom things made for the games that keep people coming back for the re-playability

[arctic rampart]

I don't have squad downloaded, just checking the server list on battlemetrics, seems like there's ~9 modded servers that are populated?

[shadow bronze]

it's also early in the day for a game that has a pretty large US playerbase

so pretty impressive for lunchtime-early afternoon across the US

[arctic rampart]

Isn't it peak time rn?

[shadow bronze]

it's 2 PM in the central time zone

so no

[analog apex]

true I guess... I used to be in an NA clan in my pre-HLL beginnings (EASY) when I played Post Scriptum to ease the waiting for HLL playtests and release
but that was a long time ago

[noble aurora]

i thought peak was from an hour ago til 2 hours from now and then again at night somewhere

[arctic rampart]

According to steams stats, maybe 2-3k off peak. I doubt it'll change from 9 servers with above 30 people to like 30

Just not sure from like a dev perspective if it's worth putting in the effort

[shadow bronze]

even if it stays at 9 servers with mods - what's your point ? They still have people playing on those servers for whatever variations of the game people have created - thus proving the entire idea that workshop keeps people coming back to games as long as they're in a playable state

Yeah only a small hardcore group of your playerbase will make and engage with modded content - but the workshop literally allows that group of people to cater to themselves with no dev attention required. Anything extra is icing on the cake. As that group caters to themselves ( or with any added extra attention i.e. offworld ), they feel their Quality of Life is improved, enjoy their time inside of the game, and likely bring in more friends - increasing the size of the small but fanatical core of the player base that wants to keep coming back

There is no real downside, it's a win-win

[arctic rampart]

Nah' I'm just thinking that clearly T17's devoted resources towards HLL are under "low" by now.
Like, they're not even fixing bugs that have been around and complained about for years. I'm thinking the financial and PR gain from making the game now completely compatible with modding and giving the tools to do so will be too big of an investment with not enough return for them.
Xbox can't even properly play the game, we have like 5-10% of people having gameplay altering issues, anything from fps dropping to 5 for like 3 minutes, voip breaking completely for extended periods of time, gained xp not saving, levels resetting and loadouts resetting.

I'm not sure how long has SQUADS dev tools been around nor' how long has the workshop been added, but it's a point worth considering, putting in lots of work for only like 3-5% of the playerbase using it and interacting with it on a daily base.
If it's the same 2 devs that TF2 has working on it (if even that, haven't checked in a while), maybe it's not worth it.

[shadow bronze]

It's free content being made for the developers that profit off of people wanting to come play whatever neat variations of the game people come up with

Re-skins ( like star wars, different theatre like WW1, maybe even modern )
Extra Maps
Custom Game modes & rulesets

[past vortex]

are you aware that providing those modability isnt trivial

[shadow bronze]

as far as time goes - it's not like there's much (if anything) encroaching on the niche that HLL occupies

Sure you're right - squad workshop has been around much longer - but you gotta start somewhere

HLL & Team17 have an opportunity to be a staple for atleast another half a decade as the only popular Tactically semi-realistic WW2 shooter

[shadow bronze]

Never said it was easy chief

[analog apex]

yep, it's a large scaled undertaking
probably outside Team17's competency level

[past vortex]

id really hope that they fix the basic bugs before theyd work on that

[arctic rampart]

Could very much be the case

[past vortex]

ofc they wont do eighter :}

[humble perch]

I kind of see happening( if it is to occur) in one the last official updates the game would receive.

[arctic rampart]

Cause, I'd be down if all servers ran with X-dudes "bug fixes megapack" mod that would fix the 852 commons bugs we see on a daily basis, but for them to create a whole mod thing around it, can't see it happening in this universe.

[shadow bronze]

I'm simply stating that given Team17's investment into this game and their definite desire (wether they say it or not) to continue to make decent profit off of this game - putting in effort to allow the community to literally enhance the game for them is financially beneficial for them, and exponentially beneficial for the playerbase

An effort to be sure, but a worthwhile one on multiple fronts

[analog apex]

while trying to allow modding, they would probably break the game completely beyond a repairable state... expect for a revert

when we look how they break stuff while they do updates that had nothing to do with the said broken stuff... it's just unimaginable

[arctic rampart]

Also, maybe it's just me, but lots of features in the game feel very hard-coded. Maybe that's one of the things they've supposedly untangled during the last year, but doubt

[arctic rampart]

Carentan bridge incident

[analog apex]

I just wish that was the case. If that was the case, then there could be a chancee for them to do something good. But just a chance.

[analog apex]

one of many

[arctic rampart]

Almost like it would be cool if someone talked to us...

Oh yeah, the new CM
oh and the roadmap
oh and new content
oh and fixed voip
oh and fixed leveling bugs

[analog apex]

ok guys I wish I could stay and chat some more, but have to go to bed. See ya tomorrow for a while and then after the weekend.
Good night.

[arctic rampart]

Good night. Was fun complaining with you. I bet we'll do it many more times.

[shadow bronze]

This before anything....

[scarlet hollow]

Hello somebody from poland can give me tuto to this game ?

[shadow bronze]

Sent you a fr

[wind shore]

You can look in youtube theres lots of them

Hi guys wsp

[fleet agate]

Does the XP count if i left mid game?
Or i need to complete the whole match?

[wind shore]

If u left the game u get a Warning : All your progress will be lost !

[fleet agate]

Don't remember seeing that

[wind shore]

That’s on Console , ur on PC 😉

If u push : left server! U get that warning !

[worthy charm]

You get class XP, but no acc. XP.

[wind shore]

But I saw the Class progress works live ! I had class lvl 8 and after some points earning I got class 9 and I could chose my next loadout !

[fleet agate]

Okey thanks

[fleet agate]

I had to leave mid game but it was fun sadly i shouldn't get much xp anyway cuz im a big noob but was asking

[wind shore]

Who else went from Heroes and Generals to Hell let Loose?

[wind shore]

How many times the game crash 😦 what is only one match 😉

[wind shore]

I have play for long time ago

[fleet agate]

Me but i didn't play h&g a lot of time

[wind shore]

Riding Bicycle :))

[wind shore]

😂

wish we could whistle too in hll

[fleet agate]

Most games i would find bots in the game idk why

[wind shore]

I saw some new vid on YouTube

It should be came back

[fleet agate]

New game or same old one?

[wind shore]

I posted that pic for a suggestion. !

[wind shore]

Well some legends stole the old version of the game to rebuild Heroes and Generals and continue the lore

Same game , check YouTube

But you cant obviously play it with steam since they will be banned from steam immediatly then lol

or epicgames

At that time I thing I had installed on browser !

[half haven]

I would assume the former, I'm just glad me and my mates weren't blasted to smithereens.

[lost chasm]

What’s the longest sniper shot you guys have seen

[slate canopy]

400 something meters?

[lost chasm]

I got a 350m earlier today

Kar98k

Would be easier if the scope had notches for distance

[slate canopy]

I know Max got an almost 500m with machine gun 🤫

[lost chasm]

Wow

[paper berry]

New here

[civic dune]

i got 300 with ironsights, probably more with scope but cant remember

[lost chasm]

Yeah

[civic dune]

machinegun is the greatest for long range

[lost chasm]

It’s hard doing long distance without notches in the scope

To see the bullet drop

After 400m it’s hard to hit moving targets as much

[civic dune]

the most annoying thing is when they start zigzagging while they sprint so you cant do the shot prediction properly 💀 that shouldnt be a thing tbh, you shouldnt be able to turn around instantly while you're sprinting

[gentle verge]

yeah some concept of momentum wouldn't go amiss also i just dont like how going prone can often cause you to plank off a small hill and stick your legs all up in the air

[marsh hill]

i like when enemy has the info where out garrison is and they set up machine gunner and couple of infantry assaults so they maul us till we are forced to spawn 400 m away

[lost chasm]

I had to deal with that a lot today

Was pissing me off 😂

[civic dune]

fr fr its so lame

there should be a limiter on how much you can turn horizontally while sprinting

[round iris]

I’m trying to use voice chat in my games but I can’t hear anyone, I was playing with my friend tho and apparently he could hear me. Anyone know any fixes?

[sleek coral]

Have the devs said anything about the possibility of pc - Xbox crossplay?

[gray garden]

Definitely not happening

[slate canopy]

I'm 99.9% sure it's never happening. Sorry

[eager umbra]

just reached lv 9 commander

[slate canopy]

Nice!

[stark thistle]

So, I recently downloaded Hell Let Loose, and I keep running into this problem Patched windows boot loader detected [Kernel Patch Protection disabled] But when I enable KPP, I have to delete the anticheat which causes me to run into another problem, that problem being {anticheat not downloaded} Someone please help me I'm on my wits ends, and I just paid 30 USD for this game.

[slate canopy]

That's definitely an odd one. Maybe a verify integrity may help?

(I don't understand the "have to delete anticheat" part when enabling KPP)

[river rover]

I'll DM you.

[fleet agate]

Why i can't connect to voip?

[half haven]

Did you do the check audio and fiddled with the Input/Output doohickeys?

[misty belfry]

Bim bam boom

[half haven]

*Flash! Bam! Alakazam!

[visual niche]

"Wonderful you came by"

[misty belfry]

Moito bueno

[dark agate]

is there any game like HLL but modern

[gentle verge]

Not really Hll was meant to be the modern ww2 game :S

sqaud44 is basically the biggest competitor which used to be post scriptum

and i guess enlisted is somewhere around there as well but that's gajin makes a basic bot driven fps that takes all the bad parts of warthunder and finds new awful things to do

[dark agate]

Enlisted is the definition of having HLL at home

[carmine tundra]

Squad, would say arma but it’s been pretty dead the last few times I’ve been on

[ruby valve]

https://youtube.com/shorts/4iEUOlOWWSk?si=V0NFpSdKTM9DVs95

[magic moss]

try redownloading the game or smth

[tepid quarry]

`

[wind shore]

enlisted can be pretty fun and fast paced

[solar crow]

Now why would you want that

console players would get absolutely decimated by pc players

[topaz beacon]

Could use a couple body shields to figure out sniper positions haha

[pliant sigil]

Are european servers down?

[storm stratus]

They already said no cross play. Just imagine aim assist also. It would be helping find hiding players by slowly down movement as it crosses over. Console players would get absolutely slapped by pc players tho.

[frank walrus]

driving through cairo is top 10 worst experiences ever

[solar crow]

exactly

[half haven]

As a former console peasant that played games that had cross play...very true.

[worthy charm]

Dont you think thats a bit to hard?😅

[pseudo rock]

Can we get an official bluesky account from hll 😉👍

[worthy charm]

Dont we even have a Twitter acc.?

[pseudo rock]

Im not sure about X

I deleted all my main stream social media accounts getting away from the circle of 2/3 companies dominating the media space

[finite berry]

https://x.com/hell_let_loose?t=F10yQuPzXkgW-xKlW8Mc6g&s=09

Also rather active?

Last post from three days ago, next one from January 9

[worthy charm]

Oh god...

I just saw we got the 2024 roadmap in april...

[finite berry]

So definitely not inactive

[finite berry]

Lmao

[worthy charm]

Yeah good to know they gave one.

[pseudo rock]

Need to get on the fediverse

[flat cipher]

why not just add plane, in a ways that will not proceed to destroy ground gameplay

[worthy charm]

You wanna wait 3 years for that?

[flat cipher]

wdym by that

[worthy charm]

Mate we got 2 maps last year

Thats the least content we ever got in a year.

[flat cipher]

a better example would be ||marauder||

[worthy charm]

We dont know what they are working on but let me tell you for some reason they cant or wont share it with us.

[flat cipher]

maybe hell let boose, the game were you play medieval knight

[worthy charm]

That would be kinda weird😅

Nah but besides planes would take ages the Code of this game is very bad.

For the same reason we wont get paratroopers or faster tanks.

Or crossplay

[analog apex]

we are not getting the crossplay for different reasons
and thank God we are not getting it 😏

[ornate pasture]

what happens if you ignite a smoke grenade but don't throw it

[analog apex]

it will get auto-throwed

after a few seconds

[ornate pasture]

ah ok

i was just wondering

cuz i know how it works with frags

[worthy charm]

Frags make you disappear

[ornate pasture]

yes

[analog apex]

only the German ones

[worthy charm]

Its a nice magic trick

[analog apex]

the US ones have no cooking feature for instance

[ornate pasture]

yeah

[analog apex]

doesn't make sense though 😄

[ornate pasture]

when and why do they explode then

im pretty sure they dont explode on impact

[analog apex]

you can hold the US one for as long as you want - the countdown starts after you throw it

[ornate pasture]

oh yeah bcs ur holding the clip thingy down

[analog apex]

maybe but doesn't make sense why we can't cook it if we wanted to

[ornate pasture]

yeah

imagine how many controls we would need to be able to move like in real life

it would take the whole keyboard

[knotty lantern]

hey all

[noble aurora]

whats going good, my broter

[knotty lantern]

good good jou

[noble aurora]

oh just the usual nightterror, you know how it is

[knotty lantern]

:p

the cold swets and all

[analog apex]

@glad oar
"are there any maps/battles in the making like the battle of Dunkirk or anything else"
#1332260089096048650 message
Responding here as there is 2h slowmode in the suggestions channel.

We are getting **Tobruk **for the British. And possibly Juno beach sometimes later afterwards.

I honestly hope we are not looking at another year, in which we are going to get just 2 new maps again.

[molten sail]

there will be 8 new maps because you forgot to mention all the weather variants.

[analog apex]

And there is nothing for the Soviets on the known horizon yet.

[analog apex]

weather variants are not new maps though

[molten sail]

tell that to the devs!

[glad oar]

personally i dont really care for the soviet battles but seeing new maps would sick

[analog apex]

they know, but they must pretend they don't otherwise they will look not much competent...

so far they have looked that way anyway as we players are not dumb... there is a Slovakian saying "You won't get me drunk with a croissant.".

[flat cipher]

||don't forget the trailer cough||

[analog apex]

just... keep moving, we have taken the German OP xD

[flat cipher]

lmao

[analog apex]

#hll-videos message
no man pls, I don't want to have nightmares again 😄

...maybe I will depending what I will see on the 2025 roadmap lol

[flat cipher]

actually i would die for a great ww1 game but with squad 44 concept

[analog apex]

when it comes to real/historical wars, I am all in just for the WWII and especially the western front

WWI... nope, Vietnam - not a chance, modern warfare - not ever as the factions there are so much comparable when it comes to the equipment and tech, they are not interesting

[flat cipher]

Come on bro... shellshock experience

[analog apex]

easy in WWII in HLL too

[pine ember]

Why not? It was the biggest and most important front of WW2 which should be represented properly in the game

[worthy charm]

I imagine a realistic WW1 game to be rather tedious. I like Hll for the tanks and in a WW1 szenario the amount of tanks would be minimal.

[worthy charm]

We all are thrilled to see it when they reveal it in september 😆

[spring wagon]

What calculator do y'all use for arty? I use https://www.easyarty.com/

[ionic gorge]

Now this one

[arctic rampart]

I used to use the one with the map, but there's no point to click on the map if I only need the mils. You can align quite quickly with the in-game hud if you're not a bozo and use SL when playing arty.
So yeah, use the same one now.

[amber veldt]

whats the update on that?

[worthy charm]

Last Info we got from greg is that it wont happen this month anymore.

So we still need to wait.

[spring wagon]

Great

[spring wagon]

Can you elaborate the last part?

[wintry thistle]

Idk moving your arm is as easy as pressing a key on a keyboard

[glad oar]

just Napoleans fall 2.0 russians would have lost if it wasnt for Hitlers stupidity and anger

[pine ember]

Thats not a reason, of course they would have lost, but don't forget they haven't so we can play them in video games

[glad oar]

it is cool we get to play them but even if they lost we would still get games about it

except for the Korean war no games about that yet

soviets aint nothing special anyway

[pine ember]

Whats so special about Japan? They don't even have proper tanks yet a semi auto rifle, balancing would be pretty hard

It doesn't make sense to add other factions when we only have 5 British and Soviet maps in total

[glad oar]

russian battles were just about there large population

japanese used way better tactics and attacking methods

[pine ember]

Oh hell, here we have one that has no clue about the eastern front

[pine ember]

Best joke I heard this week

Just google "Deep battle doctrine" and compare that to Banzai charges which were totally not about the large population

[storm stratus]

I think the replying with sarcasm, instead of as a respectable adult is more of a joke.

[pine ember]

[glad oar]

I also love the anti tank dogs they had

Deep battle doctrine must have been so useful they had to use scorched earth policy

[pine ember]

An entire German army group was destroyed by it

Now look up how useful a Banzai charge and kamikaze were

[glad oar]

if they used these tactics against the russians i know they would have lost

[pine ember]

Look up "Operation August Storm"

[glad oar]

russians lucky as hell hitler was a angry man

[pine ember]

Anyways, there should be no Pacific war before we got more maps for existing factions

[glad oar]

i bet you think the soviets did the most during ww2 😢

[pine ember]

How do you assume that?

[glad oar]

defending the soviets this hard is unheard of

never thought id get into a arguement about ww2

[pine ember]

I did not defend them, I just told you the truth and that the things you say here is complete insanity

[pine ember]

I bet you think the US solely won WW2 and every front the US wasnt involved in was not important

But WW2 was not just Pacific and Normandy

[worthy charm]

Mate the US had the without a doubt best logistik system.

They would have done it all alone

[glad oar]

i think is was mostly the britsh and us and hitlers stupidity

[worthy charm]

The russians just had the shorter way

[pine ember]

Without an Eastern Front, the entire Wehrmacht would have defended the coast and would push them back into the sea

[glad oar]

and if the us had not intervened russia would have made it to berlin

Hitler could have won but big mistakes were made on his part

[pine ember]

USSR =/= Russia

[glad oar]

mainly having japan as a allie

[pine ember]

I know

Can you now please return to the topic of the Pacific in this game (which will not come for sure before we got more British and Soviet maps)

[glad oar]

pacific theater was not super important but still sick

[ember kite]

why does my game keep crashing? plz ping if responding

[glad oar]

what other soveit battles need to be added anyway

i would love to see more British battles

[pine ember]

It would be sick, but it would be bad for the game. They already did this mistake by adding the British when the Soviets had only 3 maps

[pine ember]

Barbarossa, Moscow, Demyansk, Leningrad, Kharkov (2nd), Case Blue, Smolensk, Mga, Kyiv, Narva, Cherkassy, Tarnopol, Orsha, Courland, Warsaw outskirts, Budapest, Balaton, Seelow Heights, Berlin are just a few examples, there are so many possibilities

[glad oar]

there aint much special about them expect leningrad and berlin the rest of the battles would just be kursk copy and pastes

maybe some snow

[pine ember]

Thats just plain wrong

Pacific would just be jungle where you cant even spot the enemy

[glad oar]

i would love to attack the reichstag

would be sick

[glad oar]

pretty much what the game is anyway

getting domed in the head from across a 100 meter open plain

[pine ember]

I don't have problems spotting them

[pine ember]

Yea, welcome to Hell let loose

[glad oar]

jungle would also be a new biome in the game so why would that be bad

[pine ember]

You could have that with a northern eastern front setting like Demyansk or Leningrad too

But you wont have balance problems, add an entire new faction and making veteran players angry

[glad oar]

how did adding british and soviets anger veterans

in the first place

[pine ember]

Thats not the point, except with the British and the Soviets to a lesser scale we had inaccuracies and especially with the British balance problems

[glad oar]

why does this matter then

[pine ember]

Many did not like that they added another faction (the British) when the Soviets only got three maps and were rarely played. Its just wasted content

[glad oar]

yea so add something people actually want to play then

they added it poorly

[pine ember]

Which is more maps for existing factions before adding new ones

[glad oar]

well if people dont like the maps the added i dont think they will like new maps about the same stuff

you dont make enoug hsense for me to continue this

[pine ember]

Remember it was another dev back then, and all in all, BM added the Soviets in a good way and it pushed the game to a new all time high. It was a great release

[pine ember]

Thats not the point, the maps are liked. Kursk is amazing for combined arms warfare and trench warfare. Kharkov is the perfect mix between urban, fields and forests. Stalingrad is so immersive and features brutal urban combat

A Pacific update before we got new maps for existing factions would just be a downgrade for the game, especially since it would be pretty unbalanced too

[worthy charm]

So when do we get pacific?

[cyan saddle]

Is this another "amahgash they shold add they pacoofic to hell let looshe!!!" type?

[civic dune]

Tomorrow!

[cyan saddle]

this time being plotted against a "wwwaaahhhh!!! more soviett mappps!!!" person?

This is peak HLL discord

[civic dune]

isnt it interesting how this game basically started as a very solid "Normandy landings" focused game and then started doing mediocre soviet and north african maps 🤔

i still think those first maps are the most solid and balanced

kharkov still has floating grass and arty after 3 years 😝

[cyan saddle]

The later normandy maps were also pretty bad

First handful of maps were great. After that the focus shifted to novelty.

[civic dune]

which were the later ones? i never liked Foy but Omaha, Utah, Carentan, St Mere Eglise, St Marie du Mont... those are some of the best

[worthy charm]

Foy best map frfr

[civic dune]

i remember PHL was pretty meh but still better than Foy in my view

[worthy charm]

For tanking at least

[civic dune]

well yeah, horrible infantry maps are great for tanking 😂

alamein too

[cyan saddle]

Omaha is... mid. The warfare rework wasn't very good at all. Do you classify foy/hurtgen/hill/remagen as Normandy?

Mortain is pretty bad. PHL is disgusting.

[civic dune]

eh i guess not

i think i preffered PHL before rework but it was still pretty mediocre and still is, but i preffered it over Foy

[worthy charm]

Fighting in the City of for can be pretty fun as well. Just had this happen a few days ago.

[cyan saddle]

The rework was mostly weather + fix for sinking unto the ground

[civic dune]

and bridge maps are all bad, i know players love the idea of funneling the gameplay through a tiny strip of the map to have a more "intense" experience but it really sucks most of the time

[cyan saddle]

Again, novelty experiences

[worthy charm]

Better than nothing

[civic dune]

Driel is less bad because you can cross through water but bridge maps are so bad, it reminds me of the popularity of 2fort in Team Fortress despite it being pretty bad

players have a fascination with bridges and bridge fights

i also dislike when points are right near the virtual map limit, it really makes most of the map go to waste and also makes it feel very gamey when you¡re going along an invisible wall to defend/attack a point

i feel that maps go to waste if the point is so close to the map border

if HLL devs made some creative tricks to disguise the invisible walls with actual props or broken buildings it would be more tolerable i think

[main herald]

Hello

[pine ember]

I loved this game for its focus on the western front, but dreamed of it getting the Eastern front too, and when it did, it just was perfect. I liked it best when it just was US/USSR vs Germany. With these factions alone so much was possible, and they were relatively balanced

[civic dune]

i just think the ameriboo pandering maps were really polished compared to latter maps, ive gotten to like Stalingrad and Kharkov but the performance in Stalingrad makes it a horrible experience, when you get framedrops while firing or aiming

[pine ember]

Kharkov the best map imo

[civic dune]

its a shame the british only get bad maps tbh lol, i wish they gave the option to have british landings in Omaha or Utah too so we could see them in decent maps too, brits were in normandy after all

[pine ember]

Which do you mean? I loved old SMDM and Hürtgen

[civic dune]

i hate the visual clutter of the trees in Hurtgen and Hill 400, plus those maps basically negate the whole tank aspect of the game unless you just camp from a hill 600 meters from the enemy or something

and having to memorize which trees are pass-through and which ones are solid in a tank is such a chore

[shadow kraken]

just got out of a match as commander. all silent SLs except for one, nobody followed commands, nobody set up nodes, there was hella people on locked points and i was having to defend entire objectives myself. imagine my rage

[civic dune]

official HLL server? just join community servers or level-locked servers

or, to save time, open the scoreboard when you join a server and leave if its mostly people under level 20

[cyan saddle]

Old hurtgen was fine. Not very popular, but fine.

[civic dune]

did they remake hurtgen? i only remember the PHL remake

[cyan saddle]

Years ago

It used to be all the same trees everywhere (except for the south which was cut down)

Now it's colorful fall with bald and dead spots

A lot more dragon teeth too because that's fun

They mostly just made the map more colorful and areas visually distinct

[civic dune]

way better, so is hurtgen better than hill 400 ?

[cyan saddle]

Hill 400 is like reworked hurtgen but with less light instead of more and only one large biome

[cyan saddle]

Better in some ways, worse in others.

[solar crow]

Dosnt hurtgen have more trees?

[civic dune]

also now that the dust has settled i feel like elseborn bridge is awful and the dynamic weather just makes the bad visibility vary during gameplay, its basically Foy but with mortain-type elevation, or basically Mortain with snow

[solar crow]

I feel like hill 400 has a good balance between forest and open fighting areas

compared to hurtgen I csnt see shi in hhrtgen

[cyan saddle]

One of the "bad" things about hurtgen rework is that it makes for some ridiculous sightlines

[halcyon sphinx]

Elsenborn Ridge & Purple Heart Lane disagree

[halcyon sphinx]

alamein is also goated

[solar crow]

ew

[cyan saddle]

Can't tell if you're trolling

[civic dune]

tank main

[solar crow]

alamein feels so dry

[halcyon sphinx]

antitank main

[civic dune]

same thing

[halcyon sphinx]

well its egypt

[solar crow]

Alamein is spawn kill central

[halcyon sphinx]

yeah thats true though but I love the long sightlines, makes it feel giant

[cyan saddle]

Hurtgen is bad in the sense that long distance visibility is awful which can absolutely be abused by the right people. Hill is the exact opposite. It's so dense with so little light coming through that you can't see further than your own feet resulting in everyone roleplaying as an AP mine.

[halcyon sphinx]

hahahah

[worthy charm]

If you like PHL your a psyko

[real parrot]

I love PHL, its so fun for tank combat

[worthy charm]

Lies

[halcyon sphinx]

I love PHL, its so fun for antitank combat

[worthy charm]

Fake media

[real parrot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1039066325827469333/1219035327587553442/Composicao_12-12.gif

[worthy charm]

Sry no fun allowed here😢

[real parrot]

😔

[worthy charm]

Damn those server rules!

[pine ember]

So you mean SMDM or maybe Carentan?

[cyan saddle]

?

SME/SMDM/Carentan are all great maps

Everything else is an attempt to do something novel and in nearly all cases it breaks the infantry-to-tank balance or otherwise makes the infantry or tank experience worse for the average player.

[pine ember]

Yea which is a bit sad

Kharkov also is urban&rural like SME, yet it isnt much played

[cerulean kite]

Why is there no disposable panzerfausts for high level units. Im so sad

[worthy charm]

One day they will do it for sure.

I hope so at least

[cyan saddle]

Because the contrast between urban and rural is so large that there's enough to hate for both

[shadow bronze]

See if we had steam workshop we could let people make their own maps and see what we all come up with 😭

[cyan saddle]

Add to that the dissatisfaction some people have over the soviet vs german balance

[shadow bronze]

I will die on this hill

[mighty ivy]

Will be there some new maps? Pacific war maybe or more africa maps, europe too?

[cyan saddle]

I stopped reading after "pacific"

Tobruk will be the next map

[pine ember]

Yes, thats a problem. Just make a German eastern front subfaction

[shadow bronze]

gotta add in commander debuffs tho for historical accuracy - barbarossa army without smooth brained orders from mustache man probably make it to moscow

[pine ember]

This is the wrong type of game to do it

I meant something like removing the StG44, adding the G41 or a Soviet Maxim gun

[shadow bronze]

true - classes 'per map' (i.e. inline with the time in history those battles happened) would be nice

they already do it with the armor (mostly)

i.e. El Alamein

ofc they could add a bunch but to start just make some map based class restrictions

like no STG44's at Kursk

[pine ember]

At Kursk it is surprisingly somewhat accurate since the first StGs were issued in mid 43

[shadow bronze]

then they could make "year" versions of maps that had multiple engagements

a la Kursk

[pine ember]

Panther on Stalingrad and Kharkov is so bad

[shadow bronze]

Oof

[pine ember]

Or the IS1 in general, it should have been a KV1

Or they just could make maps in an early 1944 setting where everything in the game rn would be accurate

Maybe a MKb 42 H for assault lvl9

[charred spade]

does anyone want to play

[fast bloom]

I just bought rdr2 and I got a question about it

[rare sphinx]

engineers are goated

[ancient current]

Any south african groups looking for a player ?

[quasi shuttle]

I'm fairly certain there isn't any. But I might be wrong.

[ancient current]

there are allot of reddit and steam posts of people asking for a souith african server so thought someone might have their own group for the game

[worthy charm]

#pc-divisions-recruitment maybe somewhere in there but I cant promise it.

[ancient current]

ok thanks

[misty belfry]

Ribbety bip bop bam boom pow 💥

[misty belfry]

Tobruk looks like it’s gonna be six days in Tobruk 🙏

[vapid creek]

i cant find a server with mic activities like..

i need someone to do comms with

[worthy charm]

Try to join community server with a higher level requirement.

[vapid creek]

I am level like 22

[slate canopy]

There are communities that don't require a level. Keep looking you will find stuff

[vapid creek]

btw can we add a dragging mechanic for medics for them to pick up soldiers to have less risk of getting shot

[slate canopy]

Don't be afraid to talk over mic even if no one talks back.. or even change squads in the game.

Or sides or servers. Lol

I had a game recently where NO ONE on my squad talked, besides the occasional blurb from the level 500 with limited English. I switched squads after 20 minutes, and most of the new squad talked. So worth it.

[vapid creek]

thats kinda what i do but nothing

i ma just that unlucky

also i simply cant get good at the game

[sinful river]

LGF

[sly coral]

KAMPFSCHRAUBER suchen dich! Auch wenn du Neu bist.

Wir sind ein neu installierter Server mit Map Wechsel, Guter Ping, Aktive Admins & mehr!

Zum Seeden wäre es echt super wenn sich paar einfinden um den Server aktiver zu machen.

Admins oder VIP´s werden auch noch gesucht falls jemand Interesse hat.

Einfach nach "KAMPFSCHRAUBER 1" ausschau halten und joinen 🙂

[sinful river]

LFG lol

[river rover]

#pc-looking-for-unit or #pc-divisions-recruitment

[worthy charm]

#pc-divisions-recruitment
Ich nehme stark an da wäre eure Anfrage besser aufgehoben. Fügt außerdem vielleicht noch ne Einladung für euren Discord bei. Am besten eine ohne Ablaufdatum😉

[half haven]

Holy hell! Is that Dutch‽‽‽

[worthy charm]

Far better xD

[half haven]

Ahhh, the Flag of the Dutch East Indies! Thanks for enlightening this troubled mind!

[worthy charm]

OHA

WALLAH I HAVE A KNIFE🗡️

And i shall use it!!!

[solar crow]

my god this malaysian server is the worst

[golden orchid]

PACIFIC….hear me….PACIFIC

[solar crow]

I'm gonna cry bro this is so annoying

[dusty bolt]

There's a malaysian server?

[slate canopy]

Why be sad?

[solar crow]

yeah but it's so bad

[dusty bolt]

HLL Official?

[solar crow]

I thought chinese servers were bad but malaysian servers are just awful

[solar crow]

I think it's just 1, it's called dark contol or something

[spring wagon]

Dark Kontol?

[zinc moat]

istg these playstation players be ruining the game

[solar crow]

Yeah bro

were u there for thatlastgame?

[spring wagon]

Kontol means genitals by the way, in their language

[zinc moat]

I try to get coms but nobody responds

[solar crow]

I see

[spring wagon]

No, but I've played there before

[solar crow]

awful players right

[spring wagon]

Now you can guess what the name is referring to 😂

[spring wagon]

I have my own squad/teammates so I don't really mind, we talk on Discord.

Where are you from?

[solar crow]

I wish there was a way to rolekick commanders

Cause my god that was a shi show

[spring wagon]

Damn. Aren't there any servers in your country?

[keen drum]

i think playing as a tank driver is harder role than playing as a commander

[solar crow]

I live in malaysia haha

[spring wagon]

Were you trying to solo tank?

[solar crow]

the only server with 10 Ms for me

[spring wagon]

How did you not know the meaning of the name of the server?

[keen drum]

nah , why crew will always just put the blame on me when ever we die

[spring wagon]

oh 😂

[solar crow]

I'm new here

[keen drum]

it sucks when they start yelling

[spring wagon]

Ah, okay. Commander role isn't that easy, especially when there are like 10 people angry at you at the end of the match.

[solar crow]

Never really had anyone teach me those words lol

[spring wagon]

lol.

[spring wagon]

the commander?

[keen drum]

crew

and calling me monkey and stupid lol

[spring wagon]

Well, most of the time, the squad leader/commanders are correct

[spring wagon]

What did you do? 😂

[keen drum]

it's just a fuc game

[spring wagon]

Are you new?

[keen drum]

i drive where they say and yell when we die

[solar crow]

I've played it a bunch and I've learned not to rely on others for garries and stuff

[keen drum]

5 days in

[spring wagon]

How'd you die though?

[solar crow]

so I just do garries myself

[silk igloo]

that's easy, you just gotta be angrier at them

[solar crow]

Do that and everyone will love you

[keen drum]

like they put something behind the tank and we die immediately

[spring wagon]

Good 👍

[solar crow]

at least in the dark contol server 😂

[spring wagon]

satchel

[keen drum]

what is that

[spring wagon]

its an anti tank bomb

[solar crow]

Big boom

[spring wagon]

you gotta difuse it

[keen drum]

i never see it cuz i drive and only can see forward

[solar crow]

That's why u need supporting infantryb

[spring wagon]

I would suggest watching some tutorials, I started playing this month only and almost know everything about the game 👍

[keen drum]

what's your level

[spring wagon]

25

[solar crow]

By I'm new I meant I'm new to malaysia haha

[keen drum]

i'm at 37 now lol and still suck at the game

[spring wagon]

Oh haha 😂

[solar crow]

I've played hll for a while now

[spring wagon]

Damn how?
you don't know about Satchel at lvl 37?

[keen drum]

nah

[spring wagon]

I use Engineer, arty, tank at lvl 25

[keen drum]

i never watch tutorials and these things i just play and find out myself

[spring wagon]

you gotta watch Soulsniper's tutorials

[spring wagon]

Well this game doesn't have one so I would suggest watching one 👍

Though I met some cool people in EU servers and they told me a lot about the game 👍

[keen drum]

the thing is , i never spot the enemy i just walk in empty space and die

like fighting ghosts

[solar crow]

if ur a tanker try and have some infantry supporting your flanks otherwise ur vulnerable to AT

[spring wagon]

You just pointed out your mistake sir.

[native mesa]

Hallo

[solar crow]

hi

[spring wagon]

👋

[native mesa]

Is there games that requires English and mickes ?

[spring wagon]

Are you asking if this game requires English and mics?

[rare sphinx]

i think he's asking if there are servers which require english and mic

[solar crow]

the clans in #pc-divisions-recruitment probably have a server like that

[lethal stump]

anyone up for some squading up??

[spring wagon]

Let the man elaborate himself 😂

[native mesa]

Yes

[spring wagon]

region?

[lethal stump]

EU/UK

[spring wagon]

I'll be playing in 4.5 hours with my buddies (one is from the UK), you can hop in if you want

[lethal stump]

i should be on yeah! hoping my server seeded by then too

[solar crow]

you're in malaysia?

[spring wagon]

India

[solar crow]

Ah

[spring wagon]

That's great, hit me up in dms

[spring wagon]

Usually get about 150-220 ping in EU servers, playable

[lethal stump]

will do

[spring wagon]

I'm sending you a link, hop in

[rare sphinx]

no, no, i think no

[fleet agate]

The game was 3-2 to our team and they captured the point in the last 10 seconds and we lost

😭

[rare sphinx]

real one 🙏

Engineers are the real ones ngl

they build, organize defenses and are generally good guys

[spring wagon]

Thanks 😂

I also use the arty, so it evens out haha

Just got 10 teamkills last match

[spring wagon]

Damn, did you record it?

[fleet agate]

I only played as an Engineer one time and never did again it's a heavy responsibility

[fleet agate]

Nah

[spring wagon]

I only build the munitions then move onto the arty

[fleet agate]

I prefer medic,support, machine gunner sometimes
And automatic

[worthy charm]

What responsibility?😅 You build a full set and then youre done...

Its not that hard or complicated.

[fleet agate]

Yes that's why im lazy and sometimes i forget

I didn't even know which item repairs the tank lmao

[worthy charm]

The blowtorch

Is that how you write it?

Im not sure

[fleet agate]

Dunno it's name tbh

But i found out which one later

DUDE I just deployed and got demolished

[placid oxide]

Anyone know a good danish server? Or an english server where mic is required

[fleet agate]

I started getting some kills yay

[native mesa]

Is there any english speaking services

All the games i joined no one talks

[fleet agate]

God snipers everywhere

[fleet agate]

Are you sure voip is connected?

Cuz it happened to me once and found my voip was disconnected

[native mesa]

Yes dead sure i see the green voice thing activated

[fleet agate]

Idk then
I don't focus on voip tbh as long as the boys chat

[lethal stump]

im trying to build a community for this reason! more we have the better

[native mesa]

Ok how do i join

[lethal stump]

sent via DM

[eager crypt]

Man, I sure as hell miss the biweekly Friday updates we used to get…

Weren’t we supposed to get a new CM focused on HLL or did I dream that?

[cosmic pilot]

Mods, apeman is trying to circumvent his ban

[thin lotus]

“Less frequent but more substantial dev briefs”

Lmao @ whoever believed this

[lucid tusk]

I'd rather have whatever we have now than a constant barrage of "community content" being the only thing in the dev brief, if this roadmap isn't substantive but doable they're gonna be in for a world of hurt

[worthy charm]

We are all thrilled for the new CM, the one we should have got last year.

[oblique cloud]

Are the KRRC clan still around?

[worthy charm]

Yes https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1331674057493713018

There is one

[cosmic pilot]

🚫 🍔

[covert elbow]

I mean if their constantly showing what their doing and giving sneak peaks in the dev briefs I’ll gladly take that over what we have now

[lucid tusk]

Oh 100%, I'm just saying at least we sort of get stuff now, when it was biweekly it fell off hard

[lethal stump]

when was the last time we actually hear anything?

[covert elbow]

Hopefully this year is a turnaround but I doubt it sadly

[covert elbow]

I can’t recall…

[lucid tusk]

It's like I say, set your expectations to the bottom of the barrel so you can be pleasantly surprised... hopefully at least

[lucid tusk]

November i think

That's when tobruk was revealed

[covert elbow]

That’s right

[lethal stump]

well they need to pull their finger out really, the game is popular than ever and to keep people interested they need to provide an update on what they plan to do with updates or changes! if they dont the player count will drop and it be like a few years back struggling in the wind

[covert elbow]

https://media.tenor.com/3JcNTd14DMUAAAAM/lemme-tell-you-something.gif

My sweet summer child…

[visual thunder]

Tanking with a team that constantly update tank mark feels like having wall hacks man, it’s so good having information and doing well

[silk igloo]

were you on kursk just now too Aki?

[fleet anvil]

Boys quick question

How do I an on PS5 a friend who's on PC

[wind shore]

When is the road map releasing? Not trying to sound impatient or anything but it's January 24th

[visual niche]

No PC - Console crossplay exists

[fleet anvil]

F

[zinc moat]

any tips when playing commander?

[worthy charm]

Cry for nodes till you have 3 sets

[calm blade]

drop a lot of supplies

[rare sphinx]

:3

[zinc moat]

What are nodes and hwat thye do? I'm new

[arctic rampart]

You've been in this discord for like 5 months and don't know what nodes do in the game?

[quartz thistle]

real

[zinc moat]

I've been playing on and off cuz I always stoppped playing

Since none of my friends play it

[visual niche]

Send nodes

They add more

For

Which are used for and other stuff we don't have emotes for

[median depot]

[visual niche]

We do have that though

[median depot]

[covert elbow]

Gotta get on that max

[zinc moat]

thank you bro

[bitter cliff]

get them into it

[frosty echo]

I’m on Xbox and my mic was working fine like I could speak to my unit and hear them and now I can’t speak to them or hear them anyone know why?

[dim salmon]

If you don't know what nodes are I'd hold off on ayi g the commander role.

[golden laurel]

these guides in #1273828697941606450 are so well drawn 😍

[wind shore]

My friend and I want to play together, I got it with Steam and he with Epicgames. Sometimes when we both want to play in the same server he doesn't see the same servers as me. How to fix this problem?

[sturdy quarry]

the gamepass version has limitation to how many servers can display in the list - maybe epic is the same

[past vortex]

200

[past vortex]

does searching for server name work?

[wind shore]

nop

[wind shore]

We both dont have the gamepass version.

[past vortex]

epic has a 200 server limit too

[wind shore]

Oh we found the problem

[sturdy quarry]

filter left on by accident?

[wind shore]

Yes

[knotty lantern]

where do i need to be to look for somewhan to play hll

[past vortex]

discord

[rapid flame]

how do i report a player from official server

[visual niche]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/600902429520822303

[visual niche]

#mess-hall message there's a way to invite

[visual niche]

I wish I could take credit but there's definitely some talented folks around 🙂 glad you're finding them helpful though!

[urban stirrup]

hi

[sand goblet]

Did they change the community taa? I see so much ghosting with my weapons?

[noble aurora]

could just be some settings reset itself. been happening to other ppl

[sand goblet]

Yeah my settings got rested

[dark agate]

[storm stratus]

When you find servers you like. Add them to favourites

[shy roost]

Does anyone know how to fix the issue where my appearances keep changing? They’re completely mix matched and random

[quaint forum]

For some reason, my game is running on 30fps

Even if i put my graphics on low, and close everything, it doesnt change

Idk why

[slate canopy]

You should go to here for the recommendations to help with FPS issues? https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271341876569575505

[candid oxide]

Yo, this hole is still alive?

[halcyon smelt]

Hello!

[turbid garnet]

wsp everyone

[white urchin]

Hey, I can't get a straight answer online so I was wondering if anyone here could help me.

I play on PC. I am new. My friend got the game on PS5. Can we play together? Do we just need to create T17 accounts?

[lean niche]

No...there's no crossplatform 😦