base-camp

[elder thunder]

U get a steam key when invited btw

[craggy sail]

Do I need get the discord roles in the beta server to get consider or am I good after signing the nda

[glacial oracle]

is it really a true hell let loose experience if it doesnt run like sh*t?

[fallen scroll]

I don't like the new 3D map feature at all. It's so cool looking that it's very impractical. You completely lose control over your surroundings. Player marks are hard to see. It's very difficult to have a quick look and read the situation. And it's very slow.

Also being able to climb up nearly any rock is very bad design.. what is the rock for then? 😄

[fathom shoal]

The map is really cool but I agree it's impractical

[fallow sequoia]

Aynone knows what might be the issue that on firstlooks page the Beta discord "join our discord server" button doesn't work/do anything

[fallen scroll]

These maps will be very chaotic and there is no time to jump into map menu and back...having quick peek at a map just like in HLL will be ever more important..
Again it seems the devs don't play the game they go for a stroll in there

[ruby patrol]

@fallen scroll I said literally exactly what you said in my feedback post https://discord.com/channels/1493675341699481683/1497277185772224512

[covert finch]

lookin forward to doing my utmost to break the living hell out of the game <:

[celest spire]

im in baby

😎

[glacial oracle]

Does HLLV have the nodes system?

[jaunty belfry]

thats what pc players do. play on lowest settings just to gain an advantage.

[jaunty belfry]

sounds like it

someone else mentioned it

[ruby patrol]

Yes, it does.

Don't know if anything's been changed with the nodes themselves, but resources generate just like base hll

[glacial oracle]

please god tell me they changed it

[random island]

In Vietnam it doesnt Change anything if putting settings on low

[ruby patrol]

I would love to go change the settings and show you, but apparently that's not allowed 🥀

[jaunty belfry]

solid says it does

i copied the wrong quote

[random island]

In tacticalbrit his Video he said no

[ruby patrol]

Youtuber says stuff in promotional video 🥀

[random island]

Yeah you got a Point

[ruby patrol]

If you change your shadow settings, the entire look of the 3d map also changes to a washed out garbage color

Just another reason why the 3d map was a bad idea

[jaunty belfry]

is there dismberment?

[ruby patrol]

Yes. Saw some when shooting with a tank

[ripe star]

Oh, congratulations, I hope to receive a letter like that too...

[jaunty belfry]

how do the guns feel?

[sacred swallow]

Some one find tunnels and destroy them ? How we do that ?

[glacial oracle]

You dont.
Suffer

[glass rapids]

How was hell let loose vietnam

[devout crow]

blury

[balmy osprey]

a question as content creator or not, am I allowed to record gameplay during the public or semi public beta?

when we finally receive the notification by discord DM to join the beta

[ruby patrol]

Did you get to the NDA part yet? If so, that'll answer that question quick enough

[halcyon loom]

anyone got it? i never did :(

[elder thunder]

There is a swim mechanic now

[blazing furnace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLta5PnpaXI

[spare isle]

My friend with less time in the game and less rank got it, Would be fun to play with him but sense I didnt get the beta I guess i have to wait for the open one 🙁

[ruby patrol]

You're not missing much

[jade kayak]

They wanted a mix of levels and experience

[spare isle]

understand that, but hes not gonna play now when i dont have it. he rather wait...

[ruby patrol]

Wait until it's closed?

Just let little bro play like 2 matches, understand it's a laggy beta and then you won't have FOMO anymore either

[covert finch]

if anyone complains about limited playtest settings, just remind them that in the 1960's some settings weren't toggle-able. <:

[halcyon loom]

real life doesnt have low fps

[glass rapids]

75hz

I think

[devout crow]

i struggle with latency issues all the time IRL

[halcyon loom]

the matrix is running on a supercomputer

[terse ruin]

People who complain can’t properly loop a deogen. Iykyk

[celest spire]

is there hotas support for the choppers?

[ruby patrol]

lol no

I rebound my keys with a workaround method cause it's bugged. Then held down the DESCEND key and it didn't even go down.

[naive hamlet]

Hey, is it's possible that my firstlook account got somehow deleted? I registered like a week ago, but I tried log in and I couldn't so today I registered again I got in applied to playtest again now I come back to log in I can't log in again. Did for anyone happen this aswell? Or i'm really unlucky or they're refusing me to play this masterpiece :/

[celest spire]

oof the helicopters are rough

[winged scroll]

Are the enemy strongpoints not revealed on the map before they become active, or what? nvm the tank video was on offensive

[ruby patrol]

Gamemodes work just as they do in normal hll afaik

[sacred swallow]

I repeat my question : some one had played Medic , how it is ?

[crude sable]

I played an hour and a half, honestly not as polished as i'd hope. Still has good bones but feels more of an Alpha than a Beta

[sacred swallow]

I just found this , if some one ask what’s need to play the game !

[remote coyote]

So is there going to be more emails or are only the people that got the first one getting in?

[sacred swallow]

I think it was a second wave

[glass rapids]

My pc is cooked

[tall beacon]

Console might be cooked too then 😔

[random island]

Yeah doesnt Look Great if you Look at the pc specs

[glass rapids]

Smolensk bottom fps is peak fps in Vietnam

[unkempt oracle]

<@&365680483276816385> quick before I earn some money

[naive pine]

aaah now you are to late

[maiden lichen]

Rich and good looking?

Omg

[naive pine]

no money for u

[glass rapids]

Damn it i didn't have time to earn the money :(((

[naive pine]

critical give it to het mods

[celest spire]

ok im getting teh hang of the helos

[glass rapids]

Mods is my ene.is

Enemies because they took away free monesy

[halcyon loom]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-waiting-mail-gif-9967258246983803629

[glass rapids]

@halcyon loom don't worry i can ping you

Now you have me in your mailbox

Also youre still not in the beta?

[halcyon loom]

no not yet,hope i get it

[glass rapids]

I hope you get it too

[blazing furnace]

I believe there’s been an error. I haven’t received my invite. I have democracy to spread

[glass rapids]

I pray for both you and col3y to get invitied

[blazing furnace]

🫂

[glass rapids]

Sucks to see people suffer ngl

They just want to playtest vietnam lol

[jaunty belfry]

shotgun gameplay has my bussy wet

[jaunty belfry]

say it aint so...

[tiny tinsel]

@maiden lichen Hello, I was accepted for the HLL:V playtest, but the steam code I received said it was a duplicate and it was already activated on another account. I checked that my email was secure and haven't given it to anyone. Is there any way I can get a new code? I got directed here by Team17 support

[glass rapids]

You shouldn't have shared it

[tiny tinsel]

literally said I didn't share it lmao

I got the code in the morning, tried to use it and it said it was a dupe

[maiden lichen]

Im not sure what the T17 support is talking about...

Im just a lowly discord mod, which got his code the same way everyone else did.

[tiny tinsel]

LOL

well that blows

not sure where else I'd go request a new one now

[maiden lichen]

Im sorry, but I cant do nothing 😅

[tiny tinsel]

I appreciate the response anyways lol

[maiden lichen]

You can DM the HLL support or Ben (the community manager). Both arent a guarantee that you will get a code sadly. 😅

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1242767547321942036

[tiny tinsel]

I did send a message via support bot but I can reach out to Ben too. Worth a shot anyways

Thank you!

[dire ginkgo]

Wtf is this "cannot request directory" error, got into the beta but I cant get past the damn menu

[dire ginkgo]

Restarting fixed this nvm

[glass rapids]

Cool pfp

[covert finch]

👀 wait a minute................................................................... there's a spy in our midst....

(anti tank is definitely a poltergeist. I can tell, i got ghost writing.)

[fallen scroll]

they didn't really change anything and it is frustrating.. it's like none of the existing mechanics have any faults.. the node system could be improved, building structures, ... not being toxic here but they truly need to replace whoever is in charge of the game direction and maybe do something about designs as they feel very generic and soulless and lifeless

[glass rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/gd-geometry-dash-cube-reference-funny-gif-8757531089775734098

[fallen scroll]

condord - highguard - hll vietnam?

[jaunty belfry]

im worried about console now...

[fallen scroll]

I hope they wait with the release and don't let the player base beta test the game... it seems to suffer with the same issues as HLL eg. buggy precision strike where a direct hit does not explode in HLL compared to grenade launcher shot at tank in HLL:V and the grenade stopped on the collision with the tank and soon disappeared no explosion ctrl c + v?

[jagged notch]

i got accepted in the playtest but never recieved anything to download it

[jade kayak]

If you didn't recieve an email that says you're invited and directs you to get a key, you were not selected.

[fallen scroll]

24 GB RAM... ooof
BF6 is not that needy
Processor(AMD): AMD Ryzen 7 3700X

Processor(Intel): Intel Core i7-10700

Memory: 16GB

Graphics Card(AMD): AMD Radeon RX 6700-XT

Graphics Card(Nvidia): Nvidia RTX 3060Ti

[jagged notch]

i got ther email that said i was invited and i would recieve another email and it never came

[jade kayak]

sooo then you weren't selected

[jagged notch]

ahh i thought that meant i was selected 10-4 thanks

[latent mason]

Idk much about pcs but could it be made less needy in the future? Like idk being more stable or smt

[celest spire]

transport helo is fun

[jaunty belfry]

some people on reddit are saying it seems like a vietnam mod for HLL made with assets from the UE store. does anyone here agree?

[celest spire]

i mean... its Hell let loose but vietnam

its what it should be

is Battlefield 6 a mod of battlefield 1?

[jaunty belfry]

yea but the whole store bought asset comment bothered me. and mods generally arent as good as things made by companies

[celest spire]

no i would not say storebought asset at all

game looks gorgeous

[jaunty belfry]

the video i watched looked good

[celest spire]

but also y are u lsitening to redditors lmao

[jaunty belfry]

i know lol

[celest spire]

i just had a match where i flew a fully loaded helicopter and dropped offa full squad at the front 3 times ina row

super cool

[jaunty belfry]

nice

are you liking the helis

i can fly helis in arma 3 nit have trouble with landing them

[celest spire]

yea as a flight sim player id say the FM is actually pretty good, feels weighty

[jaunty belfry]

never tried in rising storm

[celest spire]

but the controls are a bit wacky

tho ive gotten used to them

and they work

[jaunty belfry]

cant wait to use the shotgun

and sks if its in there

should be

[celest spire]

it is

[vagrant rock]

I'd strongly disagree with the second sentence

[blazing furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/shooting-helicopter-gif-6579696585289153205

[jaunty belfry]

hope things get ironed out so the game isnt dead on arrival

[vagrant rock]

It's way too hyped to be DOA

As long as performance is okayish and there are no game-breaking bugs, this game literally can't fail

[jaunty belfry]

its gonna be all i play

and i just got approved for disability so im gonna crush this game

[blazing furnace]

hopefully not from exposure to agent orange while spreading democracy in vietnam

[jaunty belfry]

a little arma reforger vietnam 67 action

[heavy cradle]

Bro it says I’ve already have all the roles you can claim

But I’m still not in??

[dusky cedar]

It’ll be great man. It’s a step in the right direction to host closed beta and take feedback rather than just drop it and fix all the beginning stuff after release

[jaunty belfry]

Can't wait for open beta

I just watched a video of nva tank gameplay seemed like there was a lot of texture pop in

Hope that gets fixed

Rs2v has horrible texture pop in

[fathom shoal]

Is the US strafing run an A10? If not what is it?

[trim nimbus]

The A10 wasn’t used in Vietnam. It’s probably something like the AC-130 or AC-47 Spooky.

[fathom shoal]

Makes sense. I didn't think it was.

[high berry]

one of them sounds like an a1 skyraider

[fathom shoal]

Think it might be the spooky

[covert finch]

mmmmmmmmm Spooky.

[robust hearth]

If i got email you have been invited to beta test, and nothing since.. when, how?

[covert finch]

for a second i got terrified i'd have a 10 minute cooldown after saying one thing, then remembered i'm here.

[jade kayak]

The 1st was poorly worded and was onboarding, wasn't access. If you got a 2nd email, you would have access to the beta.

[robust hearth]

Any news on how long the beta will be, and any more waves of invites?

[jade kayak]

This beta will be till Monday.

[robust hearth]

Thanks, any more invite waves?

[jade kayak]

No clue

[kindred hound]

1/72 do lung bridge progress

Finished all the foam stuff

Tomorrow I can begin texturing and detailing the ground/trenches

[fast citrus]

This cover art is amazing

[heavy cradle]

I hope so

I still ain’t in

[balmy osprey]

if I can't record I am not interested in BETA

I will wait until the final game

I'm also tired of beta testings, if they don't want you to record probably the beta is very broken, better to wait for the final product

meanwhile we have another year of Arma conflict roleplaying probably

[heavy cradle]

Yoo lend me your code

[heavy cradle]

I’d be mighty fine grateful to play and give reviews and they still ain’t letting me in

[normal heath]

why is my player id bouncing on the screen

in the beta

[wise aspen]

Legit in the nda

[wise aspen]

Probably so you can’t blur it out if you record it, or makes it so you have to put a lot of effort into editing it out

[ruby patrol]

Damn, good thing I got my feedback posted when I could. They just straight up archived the first feedback section and made a new one in the hll:v discord without telling anyone xd

[sacred swallow]

What do u want from the Node System ?

[sacred swallow]

Is not Finnish ! But no one can’t stop U , your Decision !

[sacred swallow]

Maybe this is the reason why I’m not getting the code ?

[plain verge]

people got it that are console only so i dont think so

[weary sail]

The REAL cover art

[fast citrus]

It’s beautiful

[ruby patrol]

HLL mods breaking the NDA and leaking images 💔

Average case of normie infestation - but yeah I did see that. Post after post of a known issue - aka the motion blur.

[turbid wyvern]

Is there a way to sign up still

Yk

[ruby patrol]

I think they rushed the beta anyway. I mean, if they needed the pc performance data, I get it, but damn. Like 99% of stuff that'll be sent within the feedback forms, will be things they already knew as they launched this Beta

Anything from lag spikes, to the 3d map performance, to guns sounding like airsoft weapons

[turbid wyvern]

Does anyone have the link to sign up

Or is it closed

Ohhh ok thanks tho

[ruby patrol]

I feel like outside of helis, boats, tunnels and swimming, it could've just been a big dlc or update for the existing game.
And from the 4 mechanics I've mentioned, I think 2 are gimmicks, 1 will be OP and HAS to be nerfed into the ground and swimming is just... I mean, cool, but why couldn't you just add it to the existing game?

You honestly think Helis are gonna work tho?

No, no it has nothing to do with what you said, but do you think they'll work in Vietnam? Cause I think it's a completely missed shot

[turbid wyvern]

Do u guys think that there will be a aus thing

Bc iam Australian

And no games have it

[ruby patrol]

It's just that given the map size, they're not allowed to make the helis fly as fast as they should.
So in return, they're insanely easy to kill.
Like in Reforger we often laugh on how easy it is to snipe pilots and other passengers out, but this is just next level. Tanks also have a field day in sniping helis just because of how constricted the air space is for them.

Give it like a month after release and I think helis will be DoA as a mechanic

[manic meteor]

HLL: The great Emu war?

[turbid wyvern]

What!

Tf

[manic meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/don’t-smile-don't-laugh-trying-not-to-laugh-funny-giggle-gif-6467512265182122147

[ruby patrol]

w/o a doubt

[turbid wyvern]

Tf?

Ok

[ruby patrol]

I think the boats are a gimmick for a few of the same reasons. To make them viable, they need to go fast. Especially because of how constricted they are to water.
If they go fast, they're firepower is pointless and they just become a quick 1-time use transport to middle, similar to how they worked in BF4.

😒

I mean that, in the grand scheme of things, even their mobility, due to the water, is up for discussion. So why even have them?

[unkempt oracle]

There's a major bug from WW2 still in Vietnam. Maybe there is tech debt but I'm not sure they fully solved it with the new game

Not all players on your team show on the map

Lol. It's in WW2 as well

[ruby patrol]

Wait, I didn't check. Can we manage our squads whilst alive?

[unkempt oracle]

So nothing to do with the new map

[unkempt oracle]

Boats are a gimmick but because they're a spawn point you can't ignore them

[ruby patrol]

I saw a heli can also be a spawn point somehow, right?

[unkempt oracle]

Yep, I think so

US air supply drop costs 150 munitions, so they will need to use these extra tools

[ruby patrol]

Okay, I loaded into a empty server to try the heli out again. Maybe I was just doing it wrong as a complete fire timer to heli flying

[fervent grotto]

https://youtu.be/DLzbHGksSxA?si=G8aNoEnfk_GV3935 YOOOOO

THIS GAME LOOKS AMAZING

[ruby patrol]

Yea, it doesn't looke like that really

[fervent grotto]

Wdym ?

[ruby patrol]

Bro, the heli is completely borked 💀

[ruby patrol]

It doesn't look so smooth. They're running a different build or some kind of other post processing effect on top.
I have everything set to max, it doesn't look like the video.

[fervent grotto]

ok is it fun ?

[ruby patrol]

In it's current state - no.

[fervent grotto]

are you alone in this ?

[ruby patrol]

No

[fervent grotto]

what is wrong with the game ?

[ruby patrol]

The list is too long. I can't just post it here

[fallen scroll]

many things to actually make them worth defending.. at the moment it works the best as build and forget and it is very annoying to guard them since nodes are always built far from where the actual fight is happening.. it's boring.. they should force teams to move them to their farthest point for getting full bonus where the nodes would actually provide some bonuses like cutting supply box cooldown in half and so on some kind of advantage for the defending team when they build the nodes.. also it could be only 1 set of nodes and not 3..

[fervent grotto]

Solid, I'll see for myself when it comes to Open Beta

[ruby patrol]

gl with that

[fervent grotto]

tell me some key points about the game that are bad ?

or not

I shall see for my self

[unkempt oracle]

There's a fairly annoying bug with motion blur and film grain

The new style tactical map isn't great.

The visual style is wet, has an orange 'mexico' filter, and visually it's just hard to see any details

The sound mix is awful. You can't pinpoint anything.

Vehicles handle pretty poorly

And performance for me was pretty bad on an AMD card (150fps on WW2, a choppy 45 on Vietnam), but I see Nvidia users with DLSS and frsmegen praising the games performance

There's more stuff too which is smaller and I hope gets tweaked but that's the major list, for me

[fervent grotto]

We shall see

hmmmm

I only care about it being fun

[ruby patrol]

This was the majority of my feedback post before they archived it and made a new one.
Missing some other small things, but I'll re-add them at some point.

[fervent grotto]

I am sure they'll fix these things

I feel they are more minor issues that'll be patched up when the full release comes out

remember Hell Let Loose

[ruby patrol]

Brother... They couldn't fix the bouncing tanks in the original HLL after they claimed they reworked the tanks completely. What kind of hopium can you be on to think they're gonna fix it now?

[fervent grotto]

I believe in the Dev team

remember it's the closed Beta

[ruby patrol]

Closed beta != missing basic features

[raw elm]

I get so tired of this

[fervent grotto]

they'll fix it

I have faith

they know the issues and hopefully they'll get em fixed

[ruby patrol]

Then why not fix the majority of those things and then release the beta if they need primarily performance based data?

[fervent grotto]

don't play the closed beta and go "there's some issues, THAT"S IT IS ALL OVER END THE GAME NOW 0/10"

tell them, hopefully they'll fix it

[raw elm]

like with hell let loose, right?

[ruby patrol]

That's why I separated them into categories.
Something like performance not being perfect isn't a surprise to anyone participating in a beta, unless you're some console normie.

Not having working keybind functionality??? Something like that shouldn't exist even before the first internal playtest

[fervent grotto]

Is Hell Let Loose fun to play ?

[raw elm]

they only had like, what, three years? this pile of garbage will ship in less than year

[raw elm]

I liked it better before T17 started "fixing" things

[fervent grotto]

We'll see

[sacred swallow]

But , u can build where u want and they give U advantage ! They cut the cool time in half !
If enemy’s destroy them U can build other set !

[unkempt oracle]

Bro is not defending Nodes is he

[ruby patrol]

Imma join a server now and test out the engie actually. Didn't touch him yday

[fervent grotto]

if you think the closed beta is crap and the games gonna be crap why not leave now ?

Have some gosh dang faith

https://tenor.com/view/dutch-van-der-linde-red-dead-redemption-gif-22961531

[ruby patrol]

We play
We document the issues
We report them
We leave

That's what we're supposed to do, that's what all of us should do

[fervent grotto]

exactly

thank you Solid

I think we're done here

I hope it gets fixed

[sacred swallow]

Yes but we need Nodes reworked 👆

[fervent grotto]

more importantly I hope the game is fun

[fervent grotto]

No I know it has gone down hill

But I think they can come back

[sacred swallow]

I wish we could have a Radio/Music soundtracks in warm up time !

[fervent grotto]

at least I'm willing to give HLLV and T17 a chance yk

give em a chance to fix some things

[raw elm]

if they want to release it this year, they are in trouble

[fervent grotto]

ehhhh idk

Idk that's all I'll say

[raw elm]

did you play it?

[fervent grotto]

I'll wait for Open Beta to see how thing's go down

[sacred swallow]

Whaaaaattt ? No YouTuber talk about those problems ?????!!!!!!!

[fervent grotto]

it's got Pros it's got cons

let's adress the cons

and enjoy the pros

[raw elm]

if you have anything below a 4000 series nvidia card, prepare for a bad time

[fervent grotto]

looking at all the Dev gameplay it looks pretty good yk

I know there's gonna be issues

it's not perfect

[unkempt oracle]

I am due a graphics card upgrade anyway, but I had hoped to get another year out of my 6800 - which is better than the recommended specs. The issue is they're relying on DLSS and framegen

[fervent grotto]

I'm excited

[unkempt oracle]

I find it a little weird they deleted / archived the feedback channel though

Like, people were taking some good notes in there to submit at the end of the period but they're going to struggle now

[fervent grotto]

rough start

I hope it gets better

now if it doesn't go well when the full thing comes out then yes I will lose faith

but Hopefully it gets better

[raw elm]

curb your expectations, i had them very low yet still managed to get disappointed

they released it and didn't notice motion blur couldn't be disabled, still 0 QA

[fervent grotto]

I like Motion blur so...Idc about that I only care about Game Breaking issues

the worst Issues first

We Shall See

sit tight people

sit tight

I'll wait for Open beta

[ruby patrol]

Having an effect that 90% of people dislike FORCED ON is a gamebreaking issue

[worn prawn]

I actually never understood Motion Blur, idk who actually likes it, confuses me tbh

[zinc wind]

So to understnad this you get and mail that says your Invitet to the Beta and sign an NDA but you will never know if you not selected? But if you you get an mail? Maybe send an mail with let you kno that you not selected will help the confusion?....Maybe?

[sacred swallow]

Cool to see this on the map !

[ruby patrol]

It's from the YT vids afaik

Normal gameplay doesn't have the big BETA GAMEPLAY at the bottom

[sacred swallow]

To bad we can’t see some gore , flying head, arms , legs 🙂

No no , on Video ! Or some reports from YouTubers !

[ruby patrol]

The one thing I can 100% confirm that I like (since I'm pretty negative all the time) is the new XP screen at the end of the match. Love it honestly.

[sacred swallow]

Some guy says the sound is awesome !

Commends ?

[glass rapids]

These golden things with 1 innit

[sacred swallow]

Aha , ok , maybe later , but is no lvl unlocking anymore !

Yes but was only for lvl your Rank !
It’s still stays on GG in the chat

[craggy stirrup]

This is such a massive step back in actual MAP utility though.

All of the icons are much harder to read, the map grid is harder to read, even the features of the map are more difficult to distinguish.

I’d much rather they kept the actual Map mechanism and updated the art style / markers / legend than moved to this BF style ‘eye in the sky’

[zinc wind]

NDA?

[fervent grotto]

Could say that makes it more realistic

[sacred swallow]

Im a Developer !

[glass rapids]

This guy truly understands the game :point up:

[fervent grotto]

We shall see

Anyway bye bye

[sacred swallow]

And here the problems/Complaining start !
Some say they copy/paste from old HLL some say they want other stuff of Nodes and others say to keep the old stuff.

[ruby patrol]

The thing is tho, most experienced players share the majority of the opinions

[sacred swallow]

No idea who , but a guy says is only HLL in Vietnam Skin !
No idea , but they should keep the Core of HLL !

[maiden lichen]

https://klipy.com/gifs/doubt-press-x-3--k01KQ1ZKK8YB8BHJ1ZABW2NCBX1

[craggy stirrup]

There’s lots of things I wish would change about HLL or that could be improved - but just changing random things (like the map, a core part of this game) to be more similar to other ‘AAA’ FPS games isn’t one of the things most of us want.

[ruby patrol]

Yo' bum thinks the majority of people that played this game won't say the 3d map is trash?

[maiden lichen]

Naaaah

Thats one of the better things

[ruby patrol]

https://tenor.com/umq8xiije46.gif

Even if it's optimized, it won't be near as efficient as the old one

[maiden lichen]

I would know say read my feedback post

[sacred swallow]

Hmm , the map helps U to see where we are and organization

[maiden lichen]

but it magicly disappeared 🥲

[ruby patrol]

Yeah, exactly lol

[maiden lichen]

https://klipy.com/gifs/funny-cuz-its-true-simpsons--k01KQ1ZS2YPFWG4NSVC2E5HZSFH

[sacred swallow]

Bigger change is to give a map only to SL and Commander !

[ruby patrol]

Bro, people in hll can't navigate WITH a map, how tf you expect them to do it w/o

[sacred swallow]

Squad members fallow SL orders not looking on the map !

[ruby patrol]

I don't think you have played the game enough

[glass rapids]

Thanks again for the gif you sent me

[sacred swallow]

Try to play Ancestors ! Is a different game not a shooter etc , but just look at it !

[craggy stirrup]

That’s the point of the map yeah, but now they’ve got a UI issue where all of the icons are overlaid on the textures / ground colour of the actual game environment, not a controlled map environment.

This is the whole reason maps exist. Maps are a controlled projection of a physical space focused on legibility - in the Vietnam situation the map icons have to contest with visual assets that aren’t designed to be a map, that also hide other terrain features (like trenches / elevations) underneath them.

Honestly, i cannot see another reason this has been done other than to look more similar to existing titles deployment screens.

[ruby patrol]

We know why. It's easier to make

I bet you 100euro, that making the artistic maps we have in current HLL takes way more resources, then making a template and then just slapping it on like this.
They set the LoD's, what gets rendered and doesn't and then it's re-usable on any map they make

[craggy stirrup]

Potentially. Saves on artwork. But I still think they feel it’s more in line with existing game titles like BF and COD and somehow more ‘exciting’

[ruby patrol]

it's a development optimisation

[sacred swallow]

If u zoom in can u see them ?

[ruby patrol]

They literally just have the camera high in the sky. They fix up what gets shown (to not see enemy vehicles and effects and such) and boom. Map overview is mostly done.
Overlay the grid, colors and icons, you're gucci.

[glass rapids]

I like the normal maps better, its worth the time to make the tac maps

[ruby patrol]

I 100% agree

[glass rapids]

To me or robodanjal

[ruby patrol]

I'd say I'm like 20% in the experience 😄

Maybe even a bit more. I mean I do have a degree in software engineering, but game dev is a wee bit different

I mean the logical thought process still exists

Tac maps are a pain to do the traditional way, since someone has to actually sit there and make them

[maiden lichen]

Where would I be? I need the maximum idc/yap position

[ruby patrol]

These new maps are just a zoomed out camera with multiple overlays and such for icons, colors, sectors. Ofc they're easier to make

Then why tf are they never aligned and fully detailed?

2d map

It's never aligned to the game world pricisely

[glass rapids]

Feels a bit better tho

[ruby patrol]

It's 100% done by an artist. Probably has some method worked out, but still takes way more time then what they're setting up in Vietnam

In Vietnam they're currently setting up a template. They'll optimize it, align it, yada, yada, but then whatever new map comes out, they'll just apply it to and it'll always work the same.
Which from a gamedev perspective makes 100% sense, but it doesn't change the simple fact that the 3d map will never be as efficient as the current tac maps

[craggy stirrup]

Forget HOW it’s done guys - WHY is it done?

[ruby patrol]

Saves on resources and time ofc

[craggy stirrup]

Does it perform its function better than the previous iteration?

[ruby patrol]

no

[maiden lichen]

Its in the very least accurate

something that the tacmap never were...

[ruby patrol]

49 other people on the map, don't need to know that someone on your team threw a smoke* somewhere and then have you render it

It is a live rendering and that won't change

Because again: #base-camp message

[young crystal]

disappeared ? 👀

[maiden lichen]

disap-pear-ed

[young crystal]

very fruity pun

but disappeared ?

[craggy stirrup]

I also think we’re missing out on what could be some incredible art and a completely unique feature to this game with the ‘live’ map concept

[young crystal]

wasnt feedback suppossed to be made over that firstlook page anyway? 👀

[ruby patrol]

Ye, but that's at the end of the first closed beta period afaik

[young crystal]

I only remember seeing something about firstlook being the feedback thing and the threads only existing so people can discuss stuff

aaah fair then fair then

[ruby patrol]

The feedback section was highly pointless. Just regurgitated posts about the same main issues that are blatant to everyone again and again

[sacred swallow]

I still waiting for Medic feedback 😭

[maiden lichen]

Dragging is so pointless btw

Who would have guessed

[young crystal]

couldnt they just have revived you instead? 👀

or is reviving now taking longer?

ooh i see

[ruby patrol]

Feels like the speed pre-buff in normal hll

[young crystal]

so the nonmedic dragged you

and didnt shoot the enemy...but kept dragging you, waiting for a medic

[sacred swallow]

And what’s with the Pistol used for Cover Fire ?

[young crystal]

so "yes"

roger

[maiden lichen]

Everyone shivers in fear from a pistol

[young crystal]

thats why I'm asking 😄

soo..you get your secondary to defend yourself while dragging?

I see

[sacred swallow]

I hear u can build your own loadout ?!

[young crystal]

well you get to switch out your weapons and extras

its a weight-based loadout system, similar to Day of Infamy

so each class gets to pick from different options for certain slots, out of what fits to the class - and you can get as much as you can carry

[sacred swallow]

Aha so u have a dedicated space to use

[young crystal]

ye ye

[sacred swallow]

So if I’m lucky I can get 3-4 bandages and not only 2

[vagrant rock]

Who would've guessed

[vagrant rock]

Like this? :D

[maiden lichen]

Exactly like this

[jaunty belfry]

so everyone can drag not just medics? i was wondering

[unkempt oracle]

I don't think i've seen a single person be dragged yet in 5 hours of game time 😄

"fixing" medics is a bit of a waste of time.

Especially when they've limited ammo even more, so dying and respawning is now even more important

[vagrant rock]

Let's hope so

After all, medics are exactly the ones that are NOT supposed to drag if you look at it logically

[azure spire]

tell me please how long does the beta, and is there a chance to get to it if i submitted an application yesterday?

[jaunty belfry]

i wonder how much theyre gonna have to water down the graphics for console

[sacred swallow]

Do we have Artillery in Vietnam ? And some one used Mortars ?

[celest spire]

yes there are mortar squads

and artillery is a call in

[sacred swallow]

I know that ! I ask if some one used Mortars and Arty like in HLL , to build and use !

[fathom shoal]

anyone use that DShk I was hearing aboot

[winged scroll]

Has anyone measured the max speed of the heli by timing how long it takes to cross some distance on the map at max speed?

[celest spire]

pretty fast

the trailers dont do it justice

i was playing helo all night yesterday

[limpid walrus]

dude was just answering your question

[winged scroll]

At realistic max speed it should cross a grid in about 4 seconds, so i doubt it

[celest spire]

did i say it was realistic speed?

[winged scroll]

fasterrrrr

[fervent grotto]

do you thin T17 can fix the issues ?

[celest spire]

trying out the mortar rn

pretty cool

[fervent grotto]

Do you like the game Agi ?

[celest spire]

yes

has issues ofcourse but this is getting mevery hyped

[fervent grotto]

there was 3 people hating on it a few hours ago

I was like

"Guy's chillout, these Issues will be fixed doesn't mean the game's trash"

[celest spire]

complainers will always complain

[broken schooner]

With all the issues more like an alpha than beta tbh. Still have a long way to go before it's ready for release.

[celest spire]

100%

if its coming this summer it should be very late

end of august, early september imo

but if they pushed it back to like october i wouldnt complain

[broken schooner]

Same.

[fervent grotto]

Exactly

[fervent grotto]

Aye September, October would be a good time

[vagrant rock]

Problem is that they can't postpone it too much because of GTA VI

Unless that gets postponed too. Again

[broken schooner]

it will be

[vagrant rock]

What makes you think so?

[broken schooner]

Game development is costlier than ever and takes longer. There hasn't even been any gameplay reveals yet. The most hyped game of all time. RDR2 was delayed twice, I think GTA6 will be delayed 3-4 times. But let's see.

[fathom shoal]

Honestly, after playing they need to cook some more before releasing.

I don't want the game to be DOA due to the issues that we've experienced

[tidal blade]

Is there a beta sign up or did I miss the opportunity?

[glass rapids]

I think there will be a open beta in May for both console and pc

[tidal blade]

Ok cool, thanks Lock good news fir the boys then.

[fervent grotto]

How long will the HLLV Open beta in may be out for ?

[fervent tundra]

The beta will be open for everybody in May, people here are mostly waiting for the closed alpha which does need to be sign up

[devout crow]

you seriously are best waiting till May.. you aint missing out on anything at all not playing this closed Beta

[jaunty belfry]

good to see some positivity amongst all the negative nancies and nay sayers

[devout crow]

even the worst game ever created had people defend it.. But it does show something when the negative stuff is louder than the positive, right ? cant just hide away from all the negativity

The Game does have good vibes, the atmosphere, the guns, ect, ect but i personally hold all judgement till the game is actually out and more people should do the same. But Still doesnt mean we cant point out the flaws

[broken schooner]

Couple of days more I think

[celest spire]

Loud minority is a thing

Plus negativity is always more eye catching then praise

[devout crow]

in some cases, yeah. Not in all

[fervent grotto]

I mean how long do you think the Open beta in may will be around 1 week ?

2 ?

[celest spire]

Id guess mid may

[devout crow]

probs the same, a weekend. No way of knowing

[fervent grotto]

Ah

alright then

[fervent grotto]

which is sad

the game looks fun

alright let me get back to my match

[devout crow]

If they cook between now and release they will put out a good game

BUT do we have faith in the T17 team to cook ?

this aint Blackmatter anymore remember

[vagrant rock]

To be honest, BM also has their fair share of poor decision

[fervent grotto]

I think so

[devout crow]

I hope so

what they have in the Beta is a good start

all we can do is wait and see

time will tell

[fervent grotto]

MHM

exactly

[versed steppe]

when will the playtest start

[devout crow]

yesterday

[dusky spindle]

how come i got the roles and everything but no email

and i got it today not yesterday

[devout crow]

asking the wrong people my friend

This is the EMAIL you WANT

if you aint had that yet, you aint in the Beta test

[maiden lichen]

Some dont got the mail and are still in.

Give you Firstlook dashboard a look

[dusky spindle]

i could download the game get the key have the roles etc

its weird

nvm im just dumb and the mail didnt show up

[devout crow]

this is another place you can look

[wooden palm]

Yeah I need to wait until may

[versed steppe]

This is all i got

[buoyant pendant]

My condolences you unfortunate soul

[versed steppe]

@buoyant pendant lmfao

it says im in the first wave is what i dont get

[devout crow]

that message does not say that

"IF you've been accepted"

[versed steppe]

yup my bad read that quick

[devout crow]

its all G a lot of people did.. and it didnt help their first email was worded completly wrong

[versed steppe]

well shhheeettttt

[devout crow]

this was the wrong wording to use completly for the sign up process they went with

that was the first email sent out to people

[versed steppe]

yup thats the one i got

[devout crow]

when you clicked that link you had to complete the "ONBOARDING"

[versed steppe]

then sends ya to the dash

[devout crow]

THEN you got selected

[versed steppe]

yeah did all that then i got the other one

[devout crow]

Seriously tho bud.. you will have a better experience in May in the Open Beta

[sacred swallow]

???? How ?

[devout crow]

https://tenor.com/view/voodoo-mama-juju-michael-scott-gif-25179140

[last ridge]

is there criteria for being accepted

or is it just random

[devout crow]

depends who you talk to. Tin foil wearers like to think they pick and chose everyone to their own liking

but lets be honest. Its random aint it

[last ridge]

is it based on how often you play the game

i put occasionally cuz its not my main game

but they should have an often choice as well

[devout crow]

cant be

i have less than 200 hrs in the game and havent played sinse 2024

there is just simply no way of knowing unless you speak to someone who actually organises it. Why waste the energy in even thinking about it

[last ridge]

i really wanna play it now

i dont want to have to wait until may for ts

[devout crow]

https://tenor.com/view/mel-fire-fly-well-you-cant-gif-7288331

[fervent grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-war-vietnam-rising-storm2-we-were-soldiers-landing-gif-21199276

[sacred swallow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HellLetLooseVietnam/s/v6t44HUdd3
help me with this video,
Look at the iron sight , the Hole moves/Vibrate but the front fork is just there no move/vibration !

This look odd👆

[last ridge]

are you allowed to post that

[devout crow]

thats from a DEV video

no watermarks

"Hell Let Loose Vietnam is Here! (Beta testing gameplay from the devs)"

[last ridge]

ah

[sacred swallow]

I had no invitation but I check what other post and now I just found this!
Looks odd

[devout crow]

the gun shouldnt even have a burst mode for starters

[sacred swallow]

And what’s with the Ironsight !

[fervent grotto]

YOOOOO SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY PLAYS MEDIC !

[devout crow]

thats obviously a bug that will more than likley get fixed in some recoil changes down the line.. if the gun actually has a burst mode its intentionally added game design that didnt exist then

But im pretty sure the game doesnt allow burst mode select so im not sure what that OP is trying to get at

[sacred swallow]

If I use any weapons in HLL the iron sight moves from the target after Avery shot but this is not moving maybe 1mm and only the pikehole is moving !

[celest spire]

lol black matter wasnt much better, im so tierd of ppl having actual alzheimers when it comes to this games development

i think T17 has handled this game way better then BM did in the last few years

[fervent grotto]

Agi I agree

[celest spire]

T17 dont constantlt lie or treat us like children

Max constantly lied about features coming soon etc

fixes for bugs

[fervent grotto]

T17 is 100% better then BM, I'm glad they're developing this one

[celest spire]

remeber that it wwas T17 that fixed the grenade bug and the loadout bug less then a year after taking over, also BM told us those bugs were UNFIXABLE

they were in the game for like 3 years and we kept being told sorry its just undooable

[fervent grotto]

Then why do people hate so much on T17 ?

[celest spire]

because of the shoddy trailer they released back in the day

[fervent grotto]

IS THAT IT ???

[celest spire]

and the initial version of the british faction

[fallen scroll]

I wouldn't say hate.. but HLL:V seems to suffer from the same issues so.. where's the change? 😄

[celest spire]

which btw blackmatter made

and then T17 fixed it

[devout crow]

and the half baked updates. Changing the flow of everything, making it faster

yes they reverted but that was them

[fervent grotto]

In the Closed beta phase which is more like an Alapha.

[devout crow]

breaking audio several times

[fervent grotto]

I say we let T17 cook

[devout crow]

Yes, let them cook

Release next year

[celest spire]

lol ur trolling if u dont think BM didnt do that

[fervent grotto]

October this year

[maiden lichen]

This game was the same for years, even with the tank rework and stuff its still very similar to early access back in 2020.

[devout crow]

official ? not seen a date from them at all

[celest spire]

a few weeks after HLL launched the voip completely died so they had to swap provider

[fervent grotto]

No I mean I hope it's October

Or November

But they'll probably bring it out in August or September

[fallen scroll]

Let's be honest here.. if you keep building something for years and it looks like this now do you think it will change that much in the last 2 months?

[fervent grotto]

I don't think they'll put it out in 2 months

I think they're gonna wait

[celest spire]

devs never use the latest branch of the game as playtests fyi

the branch we have been playing could be months old

[fervent grotto]

That's another thing

T17 WILL COOK

Have faith

[fallen scroll]

I am hopeful but try to keep my feet on the ground

[vagrant rock]

See what Agi.exe said (the trailer) and the fact that many people have some sort of Stockholm-syndrome with "how good HLL was back then".

[fervent grotto]

That's dumb

[celest spire]

yep even tho it really wasnt any different

i remember how much ppl shat on the game after Update 7

[maiden lichen]

Ancient times

[vagrant rock]

And yet not uncommon

[maiden lichen]

Was that when they made recon tanks?

[fervent grotto]

We're turning into the call of duty community lol

[maiden lichen]

or was that U8?

Im not sure

[celest spire]

i dont want to generalize but tbh another issue is just that HLL has somehow managed to cultivate a pretty toxic community

[maiden lichen]

Free weekends

[celest spire]

BM was treated like garbage by the community on a daily basis

[celest spire]

no i mean the long time players

[fervent grotto]

I mean it's the first game where I've never heard a single slur in voice chat

[celest spire]

back in the day the Devs literally just stopped talking in discord because of harrasment

[maiden lichen]

Im talking about the same thing.
We dont want to explain stuff to knew people, but we also dont want the game do die (which is does without new players)

[celest spire]

the old CM im pretty sure quit because of the stress of being insulted daily

[maiden lichen]

Like you cant have both

[celest spire]

yea

[maiden lichen]

Wombat?
She was layed of sadly

[celest spire]

no no

Jonno

the first CM

[maiden lichen]

Damn, that was before my time

[celest spire]

ik about wombat i talked to her privately

[fervent grotto]

Imma just not listen to the haters

Imma see what HLLV is like for myself when Open Beta comes out

[celest spire]

yea im talking the 2019 to 2022 era

[maiden lichen]

I hope for you its not blury anymore

[fervent grotto]

Blury ?

[celest spire]

yea theres a bug rn where motion blur cant be turned off

[fervent grotto]

Oof

[maiden lichen]

But getting back to the CM topic

[fervent grotto]

Well

[maiden lichen]

I dont know much really

Sounds really stressful

[devout crow]

i woudlnt want to be CM for any game to be fair

[maiden lichen]

As much BS I give BM at times, they were just a small team of people who didnt knew better I guess

[last ridge]

is streaming the game in discord allowed?

[celest spire]

im not worried about the game, it has a solid foundation, every issue ive seen is typical of early betas and stuff

[celest spire]

no

[maiden lichen]

Only if you screenshot it and post it in Steam communitys

-# (no)

[fervent grotto]

When the Open Beta comes out can I stream it in Discord ?

[maiden lichen]

yes

[fervent grotto]

Or record it ?

[maiden lichen]

That wont be under an NDA anymore

[celest spire]

yes cuz its open

[maiden lichen]

Open for everyone

[fervent grotto]

Ooh OK cool

May here I come

[last ridge]

is there a date for it coming out or is it just sometime in may

[fervent grotto]

Probably mid May

[maiden lichen]

Open playtest is next month

[celest spire]

there are so many times ive been playing over the past 2 days where i almoast click the screenshot button lmao

just out of habit

[maiden lichen]

Release is sometime in the summer

[fervent grotto]

Like as soon as the first of May hits or sometime in the middle ?

[devout crow]

i would have a guess and say towards the end of May

[maiden lichen]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-know-nothing-i-dont-know--k01KQ2V1D8VE69S5WRNCEA7E9NM

[celest spire]

relax brother

lets let may happen first 😂

[sacred swallow]

August , I bet with my pre-Order !

[fervent grotto]

My most anticipated game of all time guys

[devout crow]

wow

[celest spire]

im hyped yea but not my most anticipated of all time

[last ridge]

give the beta to me NOW

please

[celest spire]

that title probably went to Silksong or KCD 2

[devout crow]

My most anticipated game for this year was The Expanse, till i played the Beta

[sacred swallow]

KCD is awesome

[devout crow]

but atleast that aint out till 2027

[celest spire]

https://klipy.com/gifs/shaw-silksong--k01KQ2V5QND4SVD2D0GGGMGY17X

give me Silksong DLC pls

[fervent grotto]

I just love the Vietnam War time period

And tactical shooters

[celest spire]

it is very exciting to have a new Nam game

[fervent grotto]

Yet no ones combined the two for a while

[devout crow]

i had much fun in the Arma Nam DLC

[celest spire]

prairie fire dlc is great

[devout crow]

yeah indeed

[celest spire]

most fun ive had on arma

[fervent grotto]

I've never played that sadly

[devout crow]

i spent hours just building FOBS 😂

[fervent grotto]

Rising Storm 2

[devout crow]

also was a great game

big fan

[fervent grotto]

Alright Goodnight chat

See you in the Jungles in May

[devout crow]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[celest spire]

dont lie ur gonna be back on here at the latest tmrw and asking about the beta

[fervent grotto]

Exactly

Haha

I'm excited

Goodnight mate

[devout crow]

Any Nam themed COH likes ? Could play something like that right now to be fair

cant really think of any RTS with a nam skin off the top of my head

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1635350/Leave_No_One_Behind_Ia_Drang/

Hmmm

[latent mason]

Mike force was fun

Thats a mod for it

[wise aspen]

There was another Vietnam game that I saw a few years ago, was called burning lands (I think) but I haven’t seen it since

[hearty bluff]

If I didn’t get an invite to closed beta do I have to wait till open beta?

I signed up immediately but they didn’t give me one

[jade kayak]

Correct or if they have another closed beta.

[royal trail]

oh yeah right, this chat does exist

sick

[fathom shoal]

blud got arrested for some hot doodoo

[lament elbow]

Hot doodoo is putting it lightly.. but yeah

[uncut coral]

Are M14s confirmed in game?

[light vessel]

has anyone played this game yet?

[light vessel]

@ashen grotto was it fun?

[ashen grotto]

It's actually really fun to play. But way faster than HLL: WW2 in my opinion. Ppl complaining how bad it is, but forget that this is just playtest

Love the concept👍

[ruby patrol]

Outside of the infantry combat being a bit more fast paced, it feels just like usual HLL and is quite well replicated.

At least it felt like my duties as a SL haven't changed and I knew how to do everything to provide maximum value to the squad.

The vaulting on top of literally anything everywhere was also super strong and provided insane vantage spots. Often, with correct position you're also very hard to see up there :3

[wise aspen]

naturally, makes more sound and makes aim horrible

[tacit needle]

Yeah the vaulting works very well, maybe a bit too well

[winged scroll]

If it renders enemy smoke too, it'll just help see where the enemy is.

[fervent grotto]

Which could render a disadvantage while on the receiving end of that

The game is also about stealth plays and if the map shows smoke then that makes it difficult for those throwing the smokes

[winged scroll]

would be funny if the entire team of 50 would throw smokes at the same time and not look at the map for the next minute so the enemies will be lagged out instead 🤪

[royal trail]

Last stand tactics, ill bring this forward to the command chat

[fallen scroll]

That's right. The game seems to be faster but players really need to slow down while walking through the jungle

[fallen scroll]

I don't like the fact you can vault anywhere... if there is a rock on your right you should not expect anyone from that direction but...

And that's what worries me about HLL:V.. It's like playing Mortain where doing nothing rewards you.. players don't want to sit and shoot all game they want to move around constantly.. there is a reason why Mortain is not a popular map

I feel like the game director does not understand HLL player base and the playstyle and constantly adding features that are not compatible with it for example the 3D map - it's cool but it also means I need to jump into map menu now with a delay and then jump back.. how am I suppose to drive a truck and look into the map.. it's dumb

It's based on the last 3 years of HLL updates

[royal trail]

I enjoy the gameplay, the map is getting a bit stale and will def be the Purple Heart Lane of this game, but its an enjoyable experience

[fallen scroll]

The map is definitely staying this way just like SPAs did.. not cynical but realistic people here think this is "just" a playtest and the final version will look completely different

They obviously invested a lots of effort into it

Of course not.. but there will be some sort of delay either way.. the most problematic thing is that you cannot see your surroundings anymore as you are stuck in map menu

[royal trail]

Also, have they actually announced a summer release? A lot of people have said it bjt i never saw it stated anywhere official. I just assumed it was an assumption made by others.

[unkempt oracle]

I agree with Dorf's point about the game director, and you can use medics as a perfect example.

They have included stuff to increase medic usage, like body dragging and a game mode with tickets. But then they have made medics even worse than usual by decreasing the default ammo pool size, limiting grenadier to either fighting inf or fighting vehicles but not both forcing more redeploys, making map traversal incredibly quick, and making not being able to open the map while downed a new "feature"

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Like, double down on making medics useful, or double down on making them worthless, but I don't believe their direction goes either way and is just a confusing mess.

[royal trail]

Fair enough

[fallen scroll]

Based on your HLL stats I don't see you play CMD or SL role very much. I play SL or CMD almost all the time spending a considerable time in a truck driving around the map. Being able to see your surrounding and having the map opened is crucial. You mostly play sniper or mg of course you don't see the point.

I might be wrong is this your profile? https://hllrecords.com/profiles/76561198151558243

[royal trail]

I find that medics (a class i play a lot and enjoy in HLL) are useless in Vietnam. People don’t wait for medics, even when nearby. It may be a biproduct of how quick traversing the map is with tunnels and the like.

[royal trail]

How do you access this? Thats sooo cool!

[fallen scroll]

You are right it;s only KAR 98

[unkempt oracle]

They're bad in WW2, and even worse in Vietnam

[fallen scroll]

That's beside the point tho

[royal trail]

Bad sure, but i still enjoy it, people wait for you, and it can help in niche situations still.

Ooo! That website is cool, ill use it for the future. Thanks for bringing it up

[unkempt oracle]

I got muted by the mods here for linking people's HLLRecords profile btw

best not do it if you don't have to 😄

[fallen scroll]

What disqualifies you is the lack of experience

[random island]

I have 2000 Hours in HLL WW2 and imo They should just Remove the medic class 😏

[fallen scroll]

It would be alright for you to say that you don't really have enough experience on this matter what's wrong with that?

[unkempt oracle]

It's actually funny that Dorf's point is "they have limited my gameplay" and someone thinks it's fine, even though they never drive a supply truck around 😄

[fallen scroll]

I have no armour or MG experience so I cannot really speak about that neither in HLL or HLL:V.. but the 3D map I think I can speak about a lot

[unkempt oracle]

"Yeah I actually think it's fine to nerf the logi players"

You just said you don't see the map being an entire menu as a problem

but it is if you're a regularly logi player

which you don't have the experience of

[near otter]

How did we even get to this point

"3d map is terrible"
"huh, it didn't bother me"

and a minute later we're pulling up stats as an argument

[unkempt oracle]

Both people with an under 50% win rate = argument invalid 🗣️

Right Abu, right?

[royal trail]

I thought the 3d map was a cool idea. But it being a live feed (easy to snipe stuff) and it lagging the game for many is reason enough to scrap it.

[fallen scroll]

I think the 3D map is really cool but being cool does not mean better

[random island]

Heard from allot of people already that it’s Bad…

And that They rather have the one we have now

[fallen scroll]

And it's not about the performant side of it.. I know that it will probably be fixed this is about playability

All these things combined will make the difference between "Do I want to spend 50 or 100 or 1000 hours in this game?"

What I would expect from the new map is fixing the UI but where you cannot interact with CMD abilities after a few clicks, being able to rotate CMD abilities 360 degrees, being able to remove marks from the map as CMD, being able to add ✅ to marks on the map, remove the 6 marks limit, ... improvements like these not just giving it a new coat as we can see now

how about being able to draw lines as CMD? at least in the warmup stage

[unkempt oracle]

I'd like for my entire team to show up on the map... as is right now, we have the same bugs as HLL:WW2 😄

[fallen scroll]

Oh yea and that bug too where you can't see players on the map at all 😄

[smoky cypress]

Hello! Are you alright? Do you know if Beta testing will be available on console later?

So in May! Perfect! I'm so looking forward to it! Thank you very much!

[blissful ferry]

Hoping for a little help. I'm all signed up for the beta apparently. But I didn't get any emails with codes, if there is a Hell Let Loose employee who can help, or if someone at least point me in the correct direction to have this resolved. I would appreciate it?

[near otter]

You would have needed to a) connect your Discord account, b) have done so before last friday and lastly c) gotten lucky to be selected for the first wave of closed beta

[latent mason]

you a lil late

[near otter]

Once you've linked your Discord account you'll be on the list of potential candidates for potential future closed tests

[latent mason]

tbh i dont think there will be any more closed betas as we get an open beta soon

[jaunty belfry]

i bought holdfast nations at war to tide me over until HLLV drops

[ruby patrol]

That's gonna be quite the waiting time

[fathom shoal]

I expect a delay.

[fallow canopy]

HOWS THE GORE? Similar to hll?

[dusty swift]

How many people are getting invited to the play test?

[fallow canopy]

none its over today

[dusty swift]

I mean overall

[fallow canopy]

open beta = everyone

[dusty swift]

Then what are people signing up for

[fallow canopy]

the closed beta that ends today lol

[dusty swift]

so how many people were invited

[fallow canopy]

14

[dusty swift]

Do we know when the open beta is

Oh no way

Can't wait

[fading rain]

6 7

[maiden lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horse-react-thanos-meme-gif-26303208

[celest spire]

HLL Vietnam commander call in POV:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5pJ8Sge_iE

[balmy osprey]

they should remove you better

I like to play as medic

[random island]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[balmy osprey]

if they remove medics this will be like battlefield or cod

[random island]

Ah the good old BF/COD Comment

[royal trail]

How are we this fine day?

[glass rapids]

Hope your enjoying vietnam

[royal trail]

I sure am, a lot of negativity about this beta but im just enjoying myself tbh.

[azure spire]

when next beta test?

[maiden lichen]

May

[jade kayak]

We don't know exact date if another closed, but an open in May.

[maiden lichen]

Which will be open and with crossplay

[azure spire]

and why i registered for closed beta if you dont invite me?
the exactlly date in may unknown?

[maiden lichen]

I dont do the invites 😭
Yes

[jade kayak]

Over 100k applied

not everyone was gonna get in

[royal trail]

within the next 35 days, unless they push back the open beta, you can be sure there will be a open beta, which will be announced im sure ahead so that people can plan for it.

[jade kayak]

"Our first Open Beta is planned for May, and we’ll be sharing more details across all our socials in due course." From their blog post: https://www.hellletloose.com/blog/beta-testing-and-crossplay

[royal trail]

ah good, ill send this to my friends, so that they can get off my back about them not getting in lmao

[jade kayak]

I mean, if they join here and get the Vietnam role, they'll announce stuff in #sit-reps (or at least Ben should.)

[normal ferry]

If we applied for the closed beta but didn’t get accepted will we have to re apply for open beta ?

[jade kayak]

An open beta is open. No need to apply.

[normal ferry]

Ok great, thank you

[jaunty belfry]

caaaaaant waaaaaaiiiiiiiit

wish there was prox chat

the prox chat in holdfast is so funny

[cyan whale]

Has anyone seen the HLL Vietnam preview gameplay by IGN?

[ruby patrol]

There is prox chat, it's just garbage

[jaunty belfry]

with enemies too?

[glass rapids]

No

[jaunty belfry]

shame

[glass rapids]

With it it would be more toxicity

[ruby patrol]

Bro, you can barely hear your friendlies. What's the point in /trying/ to hear your enemies? Never ever will you be close and both alive long enough to talk. What would even be the point in that if the range is like 8meters?

Best case it's pointless
Worst case someone starts griefing using the feature and just names every spot your team's garries are at

[glass rapids]

:point-up:

[glass rapids]

:point_up-2:

[glass rapids]

This guy knows much about the game

W solid

[ruby patrol]

Average W*

[glass rapids]

I mean it was a decent one

Pretty solid imo

[ruby patrol]

I just never understand it

I'll be called rude or whatever, but does no one else have any thought process?

It feels like it's rare

[glass rapids]

I think its not very good with enemy proximity

Hell let loose is a sweaty game and enemy proxy will be like CSGO halftime voice chat

[frosty shoal]

Enemy proximity chat is dumb

It belongs only in milsim games

[royal trail]

i disagree. honestly, should get rid of the text chat feature by that logic, half the time it is just people being angry anyway.

hell, could just make it a thing you can turn on and off and have it off by default on official servers

[ruby patrol]

Toxicity is irrelevant. The increased chance of intentional griefing instantly knocks down the idea.

[rough cairn]

Do we know if Vietnam will require secure boot?

[winged scroll]

It's great in Over the Top. Whenever I sneak up on someone but I cant catch them with my bayonet as they run away, I just tell them to stop and wait a sec...

[rough cairn]

I mean honestly from what i’m seeing it looks great, would be cool to get destruction and suppression from helicopter flying over and kicking up dust i mean imagine a napalm airstrike from commander in a thick dense forest and just burning it all down to increase visibility

[limpid walrus]

can you see your feet in hllv

[glass rapids]

Wondering that too

[rough cairn]

Or even tank and infantry flame throwers working together to clear a path, and just using grenade launchers to obliterate the village to take out hiding spots

[limpid walrus]

its an important detail that i was sad to see not in HLL

[glass rapids]

Its the only important thing in vietnam

[rough cairn]

I mean i doubt we would see anything like this at this point in the build since its just polishing and improving what’s all ready there

[limpid walrus]

its up there but not the most important

[glass rapids]

Definitely most important

I quit war thunder if there's no legs

[rough cairn]

I mean HLL is great and i love it, but it would be great and fix so many problems to be able to do this

[glass rapids]

:point_up-2:

[rough cairn]

Why -2?

[glass rapids]

There is ☝️ and👆

[winged scroll]

oh right, is the flamethrower in the beta? is it any different?

[glass rapids]

👆 this one is point up 2

[rough cairn]

Oh ok it doesnt show i just get the :point_up-2

[rough cairn]

I’m not sure i’ve seen the thumper and under-barrels

[rough cairn]

But i’m sure i saw a post discussing the possibility of a flame thrower tank?

[limpid walrus]

so can anyone confirm if you can see your own feet or not please

[maiden lichen]

Its level 7 specialist

[limpid walrus]

it adds so much more realism to the game

[rough cairn]

Is there a class that can access tunnels for the u.s.a?

[maiden lichen]

Nope

Tunnels arent really tunnel you know

[rough cairn]

Wait what?

[rough cairn]

Does it work just like a garrison that only nsa can use ?

[limpid walrus]

there more like fast travels if im not wrong

[runic kraken]

"tunnels" are teleportation beacons that you connect to each other

[maiden lichen]

Ah I just waited for chum

[rough cairn]

Or this, kind of a shame to not have little parts in the map

[maiden lichen]

Good times

[vagrant rock]

NSA DLC for HLLV when :D

[limpid walrus]

is there gonna be dlcs for HLLV

[rough cairn]

I mean i was just thinking of the little skirmishes you could have and traps you could set in them to give people p,t,s,d lol

[latent mason]

I wonder if we will get the couple of albanians that were in vietnam as a dlc

[rough cairn]

I remember playing vietcong when i was younger and how it used to make me jump when going through a tunnel and someone opened fire or a cave it didnt help with the old crt monitors

[latent mason]

Advisory pack

[vagrant rock]

Absolutely lol

[limpid walrus]

anyone know what the predicted price will be at launch

[fathom shoal]

$40 USD according to all the sites we ca npreorder on

[limpid walrus]

thats amazing for games now adays

[fathom shoal]

It's gonna be in rough shape on release at this point

[limpid walrus]

its like £30ish for uk

[fathom shoal]

It's fun but its got its issues

[rough cairn]

And not just that but being able to wait and pop out of them to give a slight advantage ambush / cover from the helicopter

[limpid walrus]

im not one to care for bugs as long as the game is still playable and fun

[rough cairn]

It depends on the bugs tbh cause they can get bad cause damage to console/ pc

[limpid walrus]

yeah its happend to me before when i had an xbox and microsoft flight sim 2024 came out it broke my xbox by overheating the cpu

[rough cairn]

Not just that but lighting can damage the gpu aswell

[limpid walrus]

yeah im hoping it isnt that bad when it comes to bugs

[rough cairn]

Render distances and stuff cause components to work too hard

[limpid walrus]

yeah hoping it wont be as broken as that

[glass rapids]

Same

[rough cairn]

I think satisfactory had these issues think someone turned off something

And it wrecked there new gpu

[glass rapids]

Kursk is peak rendering map

[limpid walrus]

i can appreciate amazing looking games but its not my first issue with them

id still play it if it looks like fortnite

[rough cairn]

I hate kursk, flamethrower taking away some of the field would help massively

[glass rapids]

Rendering has to be the worst of all maps because there's just too many invisible walls

[rough cairn]

I mean you’re crawling through chest high wheat, grass or whatever and people can see you miles away and shoot you whilst you cant see anything and not just that half of the trenches is awkward to see out of due to it

[limpid walrus]

anyone know if they are keeping that orange tint on all the maps

[rough cairn]

I dislike peaking a barrel and in your view you’re clear of it and you shoot and it hits the barrel or whatever

[glass rapids]

The trench thing is reasonable but I don't think you should crawl in a field in the first place

[rough cairn]

Why not ?

[glass rapids]

Because you're not hidden

Better to crouch run

[rough cairn]

I mean whenever i’ve played it the trenches are full of people with mgs mowing down everyone and then tanks on top mowing down players

[glass rapids]

Yes

[rough cairn]

Oh trust me i’ve tried everything and usually meet the same end of getting blown up by a tank or getting mowed down by a mg

[glass rapids]

Go around the point in trenches

Then push from side/behind

Its hard to do tho

[rough cairn]

Yeh i do and usually spend about 10 lives getting around and by the time i’m just about to get there the point is taken or none of the team can and its just me laying down someone with a bolt action rifle shooting the odd person and then i get found and have to try and repeat but the trenches i used are occupied then

[glass rapids]

Did you play kursk today

[rough cairn]

Nah i avoid it like the plague now

[glass rapids]

Nice

I like the most played one but sometimes I.need variations

[rough cairn]

I really enjoy hurtgen and hill 400 but you play them so little

[glass rapids]

How did you know

I have like 5 matches on hill400

[rough cairn]

I’m lucky if i get 2 of them in a day

[glass rapids]

Hill400 has to be one of the best looking maps in the game tho

[rough cairn]

I just really enjoy the map from the looks to how they play and there’s a couple of other maps that are similar but i forget the name now

[glass rapids]

Foy?

[rough cairn]

Yeh i dont mind foy

[glass rapids]

What are your favourite maps

[rough cairn]

Theres one with a river between the point it happens twice

Its a forest style map

[glass rapids]

Remagen

[rough cairn]

No but i do enjoy remagen aswell

[glass rapids]

Wait what is it then?

[rough cairn]

I enjoy the train one aswell

[glass rapids]

What faction?

[mint hull]

Are we getting USMC? In hllv

[glass rapids]

If ussr maybe stalingrad?

[glass rapids]

#mess-hall

[rough cairn]

Usually america and germany

Maybe driel

[glass rapids]

Thats the most hit or miss map

[mint hull]

Alr I’m waiting now 🤫

[rough cairn]

Purple heart lane is a good one aswell

[glass rapids]

What is usmc?

[mint hull]

Marine corps

[glass rapids]

In my opinion its pretty bad, its like a worse kursk

[glass rapids]

Then I don't know sadly

[rough cairn]

United states marine corps

[mint hull]

Okay all good

[jaunty belfry]

I hope there's some urban maps

[mint hull]

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-black-guys-two-black-guys-apple-apple-laptop-gif-3090298217787114336

[jaunty belfry]

Like hue city or saigon

[glass rapids]

Should be some city masp

Masp

Maps

[rough cairn]

I enjoy it due to all of the field drainage that you can run up with the bushes

[glass rapids]

Visibility is pretty bad but its pretty optimized

[rough cairn]

I mean there is a certain point in the map i hit a part of the field and you sink into it like the visual ground and the actual ground is lower

[rough cairn]

I mean i should mention i only really play offensive these days

[glass rapids]

That has to be the worst parts of the maps 🤣

[glass rapids]

Nice

[rough cairn]

I used to play warfare due to more servers having it but i feel like im just running back and fourth all day between the same 3 points unless you join one of them games and one team just keep obliterating the other team constantly

[rough cairn]

Not just that but i feel like you find more cheaters in it spawning garrisons from thin air with no one around

[glass rapids]

I think they just have support or airdrops

[rough cairn]

No i mean like one game i was just watching the map it was on kharov and we just captured a point and straight away there was a garrison 2 tiles deep in enemy territory with no supplies or no one even there

And it happened point after point