(honip) Why the holograms doesnt show

[sturdy cave]

When i change the npc name the name turns black and never show again.
This happen when i set a color in the name like "&fPerson"
if i use /npc configgui and change the name with color, the colors name going remove

Im using Purpur 1.20.10 and last Citizens build.

[stoic cedar]

(honip) Why the holograms doesnt show

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[light flax]

!logs

[lone rampart]

Info: logs

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[sturdy cave]

https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/138125

[light flax]

!logcheck https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/138125

[lone rampart]

Log Check Results

Server Version

Purpur version 1.21.10-2535-HEAD@0a2dc04 (1970-01-01T00:00:00Z)

Plugin Version(s)

Citizens v2.0.41-SNAPSHOT (build 4026) -- (Current build :white_check_mark:)
Denizen v1.3.1-SNAPSHOT (build 7236-DEV) -- (Outdated build, behind by 5)

Checked For

@light flax

UUID Version

4 (:white_check_mark: Online)

Java Version

21.0.9 :white_check_mark:

Other Noteworthy Plugin(s)

WorldGuard v7.0.14+2339-43997ec, MythicMobs v5.11.1-de409cac, Quests v5.2.8-b554

Suspicious Plugin(s)

SkinsRestorer v15.9.1 :triangular_flag_on_post: (Offline skins fixer plugin)

Possibly Relevant Plugin(s)

TAB v5.4.0 - This plugin adds Below_Name scoreboards to NPCs.
ModelEngine vR4.0.9 - ModelEngine has Citizens support, but that support is known to be buggy. Issues related to NPCs that use ModelEngine should be reported to ModelEngine support, not Citizens.
FastAsyncWorldEdit v2.14.3+8ddae9a - This plugin has been known to break the plugin load order on many servers, due to usage of the 'loadbefore' directive in its 'plugin.yml'.
GSit v3.1.0 - 'Sit on other players' or 'sit on mobs' plugins sometimes allow players to sit on NPCs.

Potentially Bad Line(s)

[01:35:08] [Server thread/ERROR]: [Multiverse-Core] Failed to autoload world world1: Failure{reason=WORLD_FOLDER_INVALID} :warning: Log contains error messages.

[spare stag]

try deleting config.yml @sturdy cave

and if that doesn't work then try on paper

[sturdy cave]

let me try

[sturdy cave]

it works but i dont know why the holograms doesnt move with me like "normal" hologram:

i change Purpur 1.21.10 to Paper 1.21.10

nvm more bugs

[light flax]

can you share an updated log please?

!logs

[lone rampart]

Info: logs

Please post your full latest log file.

Background Info: One of the most helpful tools to identifying the source of a problem is your server logs file! Logs contain all sorts of important information like server and plugin versions, any error messages, and a lot more important information (More Info).

How To: Your log can be found in the logs folder within your server folder. The most recent log is a text file labeled latest.log. To get help using these logs, please open that file in a text editor and copy all of the text, then open https://paste.denizenscript.com/New/Log and paste the text into the box on the page. Then click "Submit" and copy the URL and paste that back into this channel.

Please do not upload the file to Discord or to other pastebin services, use the log pastebin linked above.

[sturdy cave]

yes

https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/138127

[light flax]

!logcheck https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/138127

[lone rampart]

Log Check Results

Server Version

Paper version 1.21.10-129-ver/1.21.10@3e25649 (2025-12-19T23:34:30Z)

Plugin Version(s)

Citizens v2.0.41-SNAPSHOT (build 4026) -- (Current build :white_check_mark:)
Denizen v1.3.1-SNAPSHOT (build 7236-DEV) -- (Outdated build, behind by 5)

Checked For

@light flax

UUID Version

4 (:white_check_mark: Online)

Java Version

21.0.9 :white_check_mark:

Other Noteworthy Plugin(s)

WorldGuard v7.0.14+2339-43997ec, MythicMobs v5.11.1-de409cac, Quests v5.2.8-b554

Suspicious Plugin(s)

SkinsRestorer v15.9.1 :triangular_flag_on_post: (Offline skins fixer plugin)

Possibly Relevant Plugin(s)

TAB v5.4.0 - This plugin adds Below_Name scoreboards to NPCs.
ModelEngine vR4.0.9 - ModelEngine has Citizens support, but that support is known to be buggy. Issues related to NPCs that use ModelEngine should be reported to ModelEngine support, not Citizens.
FastAsyncWorldEdit v2.14.3+8ddae9a - This plugin has been known to break the plugin load order on many servers, due to usage of the 'loadbefore' directive in its 'plugin.yml'.
GSit v3.1.0 - 'Sit on other players' or 'sit on mobs' plugins sometimes allow players to sit on NPCs.

Potentially Bad Line(s)

[17:21:16] [Server thread/ERROR]: [Multiverse-Core] Failed to autoload world world1: Failure{reason=WORLD_FOLDER_INVALID} :warning: Log contains error messages.

[sturdy cave]

this again

I believe that an NPC should appear in save.yml no?

but no ones appear

and console show this, i dont kwon that should happen

[light flax]

the saves.yml is loaded when the server starts, and saves when it closes - it's not meant to be edited while the server is live and it's not a live preview of your server's settings

[sturdy cave]

okay okay, i understand

[sturdy cave]

https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/138128

i found this log, i create a npc and this error appaer and since doesnt work correctly

[spare stag]

What's your config.yml now

[sturdy cave]

https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/138130

i just have that problem with npc holograms, all of other functions works perfectly

[spare stag]

@sturdy cave is it just for the existing npcs or for new ones as well

[sturdy cave]

new ones too

[sturdy cave]

hi

[spare stag]

@sturdy cave I can't reproduce this

[sturdy cave]

how?

[vagrant talon]

he said he can not reproduce the issue, that you are describing

[light flax]

can you explain the steps you took, exactly step by step, how to make the problem occur with a brand new npc?

[sturdy cave]

literaly nothing, everything okay until i execute /npc create Madeline

and error appeared

[sturdy cave]

maybe the build version ?
i change purpur for paper, i delete config.yml and the bug persist

with new npcs is the same problem

maybe model engine problem

idk

[light flax]

The NPC didn't exist before this. step by step, please

Oh wait, sorry, misread -

This isn't what happens when you run that command at start with the versions you listed though

Are you reloading anything ever?

[sturdy cave]

yes

[light flax]

What reload commands are you using because you should never when creating new NPCs or installing new versions of Citizens

[sturdy cave]

The error has not happened again

[light flax]

Ah good then, so you're good now?

[sturdy cave]

kinda, because i cant see npc hologram, i dont have error but npc holograms too

[sturdy cave]

usually i dont use command to reload citizns, i restart the server

[spare stag]

need clean reproduction steps

[mint geyser]

I think I found a solution to your problem.
I had to change the hologram type from display to armorstand in config.yml
@sturdy cave

[sturdy cave]

oh, ill try it

[sturdy cave]

IT WORKS!

thanks you

really ty

do you know what happens?

[mint geyser]

you´re welcome. Had the same issue. Guess config changed because of an update and I could remember being in spectator mode and seeing armorstands above npc´s.. then I saw the config.

[sturdy cave]

so smart solution

thanks mate

[spare stag]

@sturdy cave I think display renderer should also work and indeed it is working for me

[viscid lintel]

@sturdy cave I had the same issue and found out that, for me, it was a problem with Nexo’s renderer and how it handles the see-through part. Turning off the see-through option in the settings and then changing it back to display fixed the issue for me. If you need the display thing

[sturdy cave]

whats the principal difference between Display and ArmorStand

?

[light flax]

the entity type and the properties they support

versions as well

[sturdy cave]

okay! Ty everyone

[knotty hemlock]

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