(piggygames) Npcs despawn for no reason. | Denizen and Citizens | Page 1

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 8:48 AM

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When leave the npcs and return they become invisible until i do /citizens reload but their hologram is still there. (in picture u can see "background has 2 with same issue"

pulsar martenBOT Apr 21, 2025, 8:48 AM

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(piggygames) Npcs despawn for no reason.

pulsar martenBOT Apr 21, 2025, 8:48 AM

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cursive jay When leave the npcs and return they become invisible until i do /citizens reload...

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plain urchin Apr 21, 2025, 9:11 AM

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!logs

slate nightBOT Apr 21, 2025, 9:11 AM

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plain urchin !logs

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cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 9:16 AM

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thats the issue

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there r no logs that mention it

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they just vanish

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il send em if u really want but citizens shows no error or info about it

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📎 message.txt

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did not even leave this time

trail raven Apr 21, 2025, 10:05 AM

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cursive jay

!logcheck

slate nightBOT Apr 21, 2025, 10:05 AM

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trail raven !logcheck

Repasted

Incorrect upload of log reuploaded to pastebin at https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/132822

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Log Check Results

Server Version

Paper version 1.21.5-22-main@6c2b037 (2025-04-16T18:32:47Z)

Plugin Version(s)

Citizens v2.0.38-SNAPSHOT (build 3781) -- (Outdated build, behind by 5)

Checked For

@trail raven

UUID Version

4 (:white_check_mark: Online)

Other Noteworthy Plugin(s)

WorldGuard v7.0.13+82fdc65

Problematic Plugin(s)

Geyser-Spigot v2.6.2-SNAPSHOT - Bedrock clients are unsupportable. Please do all testing with a Java Edition client.
floodgate v2.2.4-SNAPSHOT (b116-0e3163c)

Possibly Relevant Plugin(s)

TAB v5.0.7 - This plugin adds Below_Name scoreboards to NPCs.
ViaVersion v5.3.1 - Mixed client vs server versions can sometimes cause packet-related issues.
Multiverse-Core v4.3.14 - Multi-world configuration plugins may affect NPCs in unexpected ways.
FastAsyncWorldEdit v2.13.1-SNAPSHOT-1092;4af1b8b - This plugin has been known to break the plugin load order on many servers, due to usage of the 'loadbefore' directive in its 'plugin.yml'.

Potentially Bad Line(s)

[10:56:50] [Server thread/ERROR]: [ExcellentCrates] Could not parse item tag string '{}'. Caused by 'event.yml' -> 'Rewards.List.wind_charge.PreviewData'. :warning: Log contains error messages.

trail raven Apr 21, 2025, 10:05 AM

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You're slightly out of date for Citizens.
Paper is still experimental for 1.21.5.

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Also citizens isn't really meant to be reloaded, unless specially told to.

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:10 AM

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this issue was there before i upgraded to 21.5

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so that aint it

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and i updated from spigot barely 2d ago

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and its specific npcs

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always the same ones

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il update and see if fixxed

plain urchin Apr 21, 2025, 10:12 AM

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Can you test by joining with a 1.21.5 vanilla client

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:13 AM

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sure

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!download

slate nightBOT Apr 21, 2025, 10:13 AM

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cursive jay !download

Update Citizens

Latest Citizens dev builds are at https://ci.citizensnpcs.co/job/Citizens2/.
Spigot releases of Citizens are available at https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/citizens.13811/.

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Update Paper

Paper is a higher-performance alternative to Spigot that is 100% compatible with the equivalent Spigot version. It's much easier to update than Spigot itself, and carries a lot of performance and quality-of-life benefits.

Latest Paper builds are at https://papermc.io/downloads/paper.

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cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:17 AM

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i joined on vanilla .5

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and i saw it vanish infront of me

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il restart plugin with the updated version

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its updated now. still the guy vanishes infront of me

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if want i can join a vc and stream

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📎 message.txt

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!logcheck

slate nightBOT Apr 21, 2025, 10:23 AM

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cursive jay !logcheck

Command Syntax Incorrect

!logcheck <link>

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:23 AM

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cursive jay

!logcheck

slate nightBOT Apr 21, 2025, 10:23 AM

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cursive jay !logcheck

Repasted

Incorrect upload of log reuploaded to pastebin at https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/132823

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Log Check Results

Server Version

Paper version 1.21.5-22-main@6c2b037 (2025-04-16T18:32:47Z)

Plugin Version(s)

Citizens v2.0.38-SNAPSHOT (build 3786) -- (Current build :white_check_mark:)

Checked For

@cursive jay

UUID Version

4 (:white_check_mark: Online)

Other Noteworthy Plugin(s)

WorldGuard v7.0.13+82fdc65

Problematic Plugin(s)

Geyser-Spigot v2.6.2-SNAPSHOT - Bedrock clients are unsupportable. Please do all testing with a Java Edition client.
floodgate v2.2.4-SNAPSHOT (b116-0e3163c)

Possibly Relevant Plugin(s)

TAB v5.0.7 - This plugin adds Below_Name scoreboards to NPCs.
ViaVersion v5.3.1 - Mixed client vs server versions can sometimes cause packet-related issues.
Multiverse-Core v4.3.14 - Multi-world configuration plugins may affect NPCs in unexpected ways.
FastAsyncWorldEdit v2.13.1-SNAPSHOT-1092;4af1b8b - This plugin has been known to break the plugin load order on many servers, due to usage of the 'loadbefore' directive in its 'plugin.yml'.

Potentially Bad Line(s)

[12:18:31] [Server thread/ERROR]: [ExcellentCrates] Could not parse item tag string '{}'. Caused by 'event.yml' -> 'Rewards.List.wind_charge.PreviewData'. :warning: Log contains error messages.

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:24 AM

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also ab 80% sure worldguard does not limit the ammount of em since i created more and those do stay

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imma try deleting one of the npcs and recreating it

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maybe just those specific with damaged code or smt

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huh cant even select it

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hologram is cause other plugin ig but npc is fully gone

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nope still specificly these that keep vanishing

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[12:28:19 ERROR]: [Citizens] Player registered twice with different NPC instances 462415eb-3c30-2efc-ad74-4b7a673a91d6
[12:28:19 ERROR]: [Citizens] Player registered twice with different NPC instances 0285e864-a4ed-2a9e-b99d-9458195f1859
[12:28:19 ERROR]: [Citizens] Player registered twice with different NPC instances 2546a7ba-abc1-2660-98b7-cf5b733c5b84
[12:28:19 ERROR]: [Citizens] Player registered twice with different NPC instances 3b9fb1e3-e310-2086-9cfb-1562122261b9
[12:28:19 ERROR]: [Citizens] Player registered twice with different NPC instances 8d1cde8a-444e-23e8-b089-575737cfc12f
[12:28:19 ERROR]: [Citizens] Player registered twice with different NPC instances f47636cd-fc44-2bb0-90ab-9b37910539f5
[12:28:19 ERROR]: [Citizens] Player registered twice with different NPC instances da640ae9-e7aa-2d61-8d13-52458b9f9aec

trail raven Apr 21, 2025, 10:31 AM

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cursive jay [12:28:19 ERROR]: [Citizens] Player registered twice with different NPC instance...

This happens when you use /citizens reload.

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:31 AM

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oh

trail raven Apr 21, 2025, 10:31 AM

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As said, citizens is not meant to be reloaded usually.

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:32 AM

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since the npc did not "spawn" i could not use /npc select

trail raven Apr 21, 2025, 10:32 AM

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If it's in the /npc list then it's probably still there just not visible to the client? Speculation really.
Also is the world they're in a multiverse world? As in, not the vanilla world?

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:32 AM

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yes and no

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even citizens could not find it with /npc select

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so not pure visual

trail raven Apr 21, 2025, 10:33 AM

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Yes to what.

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:33 AM

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the list and hologram says it exists

trail raven Apr 21, 2025, 10:33 AM

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Will have to wait for Fullwall to answer or a more experienced helper then.

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:34 AM

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fossil island Apr 21, 2025, 10:34 AM

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!pluginconflict

slate nightBOT Apr 21, 2025, 10:34 AM

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+++ Info pluginconflict: https://wiki.citizensnpcs.co/Plugin_Conflict

Plugin Conflict

If you've been sent to this page, you're having trouble with a plugin feature and a helper suspects it is caused by a Plugin Conflict.

fossil island Apr 21, 2025, 10:34 AM

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try the steps here first @cursive jay

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the other thing to try is increasing the remove-packet-delay in config.yml from 1t to 2t (or higher)

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:35 AM

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citizens config?

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reloading and made it 3t

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changing the packet delay did not solve

fossil island Apr 21, 2025, 10:40 AM

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stop reloading.

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stop the server

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change the setting

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:41 AM

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(eg some plugin is telling Citizens to remove all villager NPCs without you knowing). its specific 3 (all npcs but one r player skins and 3 player skins npcs get affected)

fossil island Apr 21, 2025, 10:41 AM

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and restart the server

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:41 AM

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i did

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changed file restarted server

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other helper said no more command reload

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so i stopped doing that

fossil island Apr 21, 2025, 10:41 AM

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slate night +++ Info `pluginconflict`: https://wiki.citizensnpcs.co/Plugin_Conflict

ok then follow the steps here

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:42 AM

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well worldguard was specificly mentioned by bot so il start there

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not worldguard

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worldedit was mentioned

trail raven Apr 21, 2025, 10:45 AM

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FAWE was mentioned.

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Not worldedit.

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:46 AM

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i dont have normal worldedit at all

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but ye meant that one

trail raven Apr 21, 2025, 10:46 AM

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Ah, it replaces it doesn't it?

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 10:46 AM

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its worledit but cleaner and more efficient

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not FAWE

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mv next

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no multiversalcore

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verry much doubt it but tab is next

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tbh il just quarantine all plugins but citizens

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if broken its not other plugins if not its one of them

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that fixxed it

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this gonna take a bit

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either voidgen, viaversion or vierewinds

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only voidgen to test

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wait heh

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all tested 1 by 1

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and non made the issue

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ok

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zlmost

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almost

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ahhhhh

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narrowed it down to 5 that cause it

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placeholder api

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it enables my custom coded plugins

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or atleast 3 of em req it

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but of those 3 non alter blocks, they create items and use guis

fossil island Apr 21, 2025, 11:44 AM

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@cursive jay ok maybe packetevents?

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 11:44 AM

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changed some stuff

silent socketBOT Apr 21, 2025, 11:44 AM

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cursive jay changed some stuff

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cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 11:44 AM

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headhunting plugin does this

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it makes it so any mob or player u kill drops a head

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that head has a vallue to sell and crafts masks with abilities

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somehow it blocks those 3 npcs specific

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wich indeed has smt to do with entities

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atleast i now know wut it is

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@fossil island (idk if i am allowed to ping.. srry if not) ty for the help

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also the other staff

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 12:21 PM

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wrong server

fossil island Apr 21, 2025, 12:26 PM

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!rule 3

slate nightBOT Apr 21, 2025, 12:26 PM

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fossil island !rule 3

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@cursive jay

cursive jay Apr 21, 2025, 1:13 PM

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fossil island !rule 3

in that case srry

#(piggygames) Npcs despawn for no reason.