#(fuckdisc_rd) Good anticheat plugin

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fleet ravine
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Do anybody know one? I only know NoCheatPlus, there is an updated version.
But maybe there is a better solution today?

empty sealBOT
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(fuckdisc_rd) Good anticheat plugin

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torn citrus
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The response I give to this is typically always the same, the best anti-cheat system is player moderators
Paper has a lot of the features that are really nice as well, like, the xray prevention thing built in, but a lot of anti-cheat plugins nowadays are fairly heavy

fleet ravine
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I'm against moderators. Also what can I do? I don't want to ban them.
xray can do nothing with my server, but vanilla paper is just an open door

We had several open tests without any anticheat and players told me that they could do anything
ghosthand (click through blocks), wall climbing, even fly

torn citrus
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Well, you don't want a playerbase that is remotely interested in attempting to cheat anyways lol

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Moderators are healthy for a server, it gives regular users a good feel of responsibility and commitment to the server - It also takes a load off you doing everything entirely yourself; Some others may have some suggestions for anti cheats for you though

distant shale
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Our server is self moderated. Players who are long time regulars automatically get moderator permissions (with some restrictions who they can ban/kick obv.).

All the anti cheat features we need are scripted with Denizen (e.g. anti AFK machines) or custom made plugins to not have to deal with heavy plugins that observe every step of players.

I know of some server owners who use https://polar.top but it's a SaaS and also puts a heavy load on the server. Imho the best way to deal with cheaters is to adjust your gameplay to make it harder for cheaters to enjoy it.

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but also depend on what type of server you actually have. SMPs have very different needs than minigame servers

fleet ravine
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I can't afford paid anticheat. I can't even buy it easily.
I can potentially block ghosthand with denizen. But wall climbing. Have no idea how to do it
Hell, i'm gonna install cheat client and test it 😟

abstract agate
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iiirc Vulcan

fleet ravine
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NCP has depenizen integration. But it's 1 tag as i see lol

abstract agate
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If even I would stick to NCP and configure it properly

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this takes time still

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ie: if you allow players to be faster than default

fleet ravine
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I think I will disable all checks and enable by one if needed

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The fun thing. Player showed me how he can fly on supersonic speed. And server doesn't even said a thing. Like Darwinian moved too quickly! Which I as OP receiving every time lol

uncut elk
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I don't want to ban them.
huh? why not?

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is this an ararchy server or something

fleet ravine
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kind of

shrewd prairie
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it depends on the type of server you're running, if the gamemode is anything pvp based, you can't rely on staff alone to moderate it

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If you're looking for a free one that prevents most things besides heuristics, you could try out Grim

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It has some downsides like a not-so future proof support team, but it is open source

torn citrus
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i do agree with th pvp bit;

they could do anything ghosthand (click through blocks), wall climbing, even fly
these though are (mostly) best able to be caught by people

shrewd prairie
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yeah, though he said he doesn't want to ban, i'm not entirely sure why. But the anticheat can be set to prevent those from happening without punishing if he really wants

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from what it sounds like, he just doesnt want people whipping around at a million blocks per second. NCP will probably be ok, though there's definitely bypasses for that which grim won't have. For the average dumb cheater, either should work fine though

celest wing
# fleet ravine I'm against moderators. Also what can I do? I don't want to ban them. xray can d...

ghosthand
on every relevant event, (right clicks something, attacks entity, left clicks something, opens inventory, etc), check if player.eye_location.ray_trace aligns with context.location, and log outcome. pretty ez
wall climbing & fly
you should disable the "players can fly" check on uhhh server.properties iirc? it's the one that says "flying is not enabled on this server." and kicks you when you've been flying for too long. paper also has a way to turn this more aggressive, it miiiight get more false positives and annoy your legit players because they've been kicked, but it'll also catch way more people trying to fly in "bursts", instead of doing long flights (doing that bypasses the vanilla flying detection)

shrewd prairie
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if he vaguely remembered what NCP was, he's not gonna be coding his own anticheat

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even something as "simple" as ghosthand would need a lot of knowledge about ghost blocks, transaction confirms, diff procotols for versions, etc. It's just easier to use a pre-existing one

fleet ravine
uncut elk
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There's a good proportion of us who have 2-3 plugins on our server

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'easier' comes at a cost, as always

distant shale
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dunno how one would that implement using denizen... if possible even

sacred smelt
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For eventually little benefit, as Dynmap is a well made solution with enough API to do most of the customization you'd want

fleet ravine
shrewd prairie
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The discontinue is so they don’t feel pressured to work on it - the community is working on making version 3.0, with much better design. So it’s not going to be officially supported, but it’s also open source

abstract agate
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So it is indeed discontinued

fleet ravine
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I've tested Grim. It doesn't block ghosthand

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NCP works great

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But hell. You can fly in survival faster than in creative, take no fall damage, can even blink through blocks with RMB
And it's just one mod with OPEN SOURCE

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It's insane how unprotected minecraft is

fleet ravine
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NCP is shit