#(charlie909) does citizens support 1.17.1?

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hollow jewel
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i'm using an older version which says it supports 1.17.1
and i'm not sure but i keep getting this error when creating an npc saying "that is not a valid number" can i please get some help?

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(charlie909) does citizens support 1.17.1?

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hollow jewel
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and yes, i did buy the plugin

peak laurel
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No, we recommend updating

hollow jewel
peak laurel
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Why not?

hollow jewel
# peak laurel Why not?
  1. newer versions of minecraft have terrible performance, and the server plan can't deal with the stress
  2. i skript alot, and i feel updating would most likely break 90% of them
  3. switching versions is a whole process with converting worlds which i don't want to deal with
peak laurel
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hollow jewel
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???

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i didn't ping you ?

peak laurel
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Ping reply

hollow jewel
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wuts dat

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hollow jewel
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@peak laurel
please dude, i do not want to have wasted my 10 bucks, don't just tell me to "update" because i literally gave you 3 reasons why i can't, is there a specific plugin version i have to use to avoid this or what???

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like, you can't be serious right now, i scrolled through like 20 threads looking for answers and in every single one the staff member just says "update" and does not provide a useful answer

nocturne mango
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newer versions of minecraft have terrible performance, and the server plan can't deal with the stress
objectively provably wrong. 1.17 is notable in fact for having rather poor perfomance compared to any of it's surrounding versions
i skript alot, and i feel updating would most likely break 90% of them
probably wouldn't, but obviously I can't make any promises about Skript. If you made the scripts to start with, updating them would surely be pretty trivial
switching versions is a whole process with converting worlds which i don't want to deal with
literally just not a thing. people say this a lot and i don't know why. You don't have to do anything, minecraft has world-updating built-in.
I can continue to give you the many many reasons why you should update if you'd like. Having searched through 20 threads, you presumably saw that 90% of these end with the user updating and their issue being fixed.

hollow jewel
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like is there just nothing i can do?

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can i get a refund?

peak laurel
hollow jewel
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and may i ask why the newer versions don't support specifically 1.17.1?

peak laurel
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Few reasons:
It’s an old version and every old version that is supported takes time to do so.
Spigot has a file size limitation that reduces the number of versions that can be put into the jars

hollow jewel
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but what makes 1.16.5 a more important version than 1.17.1

peak laurel
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Usage

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hollow jewel
# peak laurel Usage

wdym? 1.17.1 is used so much more than 1.16.5 (from what i’ve seen) and 1.16.5 doesn’t have as many blocks and stuff as 1.17

peak laurel
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even in global stats you can see that 1.16.5 is much more widely used than 1.17.1

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anyway, this discussion is kind of circular

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either update (very recommended) or use an old version of citizens (very much not recommended)

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@hollow jewel

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hollow jewel
peak laurel
fading crown
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The issue is fixed in recent versions. As fullwall explained to you multiple times you can try the last 1.17.1 build from #news. It's your decision to stay on outdated versions, we can not provide support for.

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1.18.2/1.19.4 is still supported, even 1.20.1, so you don't even have to do a big version jump, where most plugins might stop working.

hollow jewel
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@hollow jewel

hollow jewel
pseudo zealot
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Why can't you update? you are literally making an active choice to have worse performance, security issues, bugs, no support, less features, exploits, etc. for no benefit whatsoever

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We're trying to help you, but you still haven't explained why are you using an old version of Minecraft instead of the latest one

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And we're not the only plugin dropping support for older versions, Paper themselves only support 1.20.1, and there are several other plugins who drop support for old versions as well, as there's no reason to be using them

hollow jewel
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do you understand that i have given several reasons why i can't switch

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and you are refusing to give help just because my server is on an older version which is still supported by 90% of plugins

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i don't understand what kinda drugs you are on but plugins aren't dropping support for 1.17.1

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that's just not a thing

peak laurel
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@hollow jewel I don't know what extra help you need beyond here is the old version to use

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what help are you wanting from us?

hollow jewel
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on how to fix the error

fading crown
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Try the old version for 1.17.1

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If that's not gonna work there is nothing left we can do, except helping you to update your servery

peak laurel
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delete the citizens/ folder in your plugins directory and use the old version for 1.17.1

pseudo zealot
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You're server is worse off on order versions in every way, you're literally making an active choice to put your server at risk and have worse performance

peak laurel
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@pseudo zealot going in circles, I think we'll leave it

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@hollow jewel

hollow jewel
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bro i’m tryna watch anime

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screw off mans

pseudo zealot
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What?

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We are trying to give you advice to help you make good decisions for your server and keep it performant and stable - obviously this is just advice, so you're welcome to do whatever you want, but we're unable to support outdated versions no one should ever be running anymore

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hollow jewel
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the bot keeps pinging me

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