Hello
I am running a Minecraft server with Paper 1.17.1. I keep trying to upload Citizens and Sentinel, But for some odd reason it decides not to work. What can I do?
#(Dreamrage808) Citizens and Sentinel Not working for Minecraft 1.17.1 Paper Server
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(Dreamrage808) Citizens and Sentinel Not working for Minecraft 1.17.1 Paper Server
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Hello
I am running a Minecraft server with Paper 1.17.1. I keep trying to upload...
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quick gull
i'm afraid support 1.17 is dropped, you'll have to update, but you should do so either way for security and perfomance improvements
digital mica
i'm afraid support 1.17 is dropped, you'll have to update, but you should do so ...
I can't update my server version.
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digital mica
If i do, it will destroy hundreds of Gigabytes of world files.
quick gull
no it won't
worlds persist fine through updates, particularly ones this small
can back them up if you're worried, but it almost certainly won't be an issue at all
teal mulch
If i do, it will destroy hundreds of Gigabytes of world files.
^ Minecraft worlds should be entirely forward-compatible, can always test updating it locally as well
I.e. download a copy of the world and try updating that
digital mica
Do you really think ill download a 200 gigabyte world, just to "test" out a upgrade?
Its pre 1.19 so the generation is different.
It will delete and regenerate the files
and on top of that
it is a custom world
teal mulch
It won't delete anything, if anything all it'd do is the adding caves below bedrock thing
But as mentioned, can always make a backup, even just a remote one on your host so that you don't have to download anything
Using an outdated versions means bugs, exploits, crashes, worse performance, not being able to get support from us/Paper/other plugins, etc. and generally a whole lot of other downsides for no benefit at all really
digital mica
Seriously, wish that was true but meh
teal mulch
I mean, that is - what part are you unsure about?
Mojang had major optimizations in recent versions (1.19.4, 1.20) - people on the Paper Discord have been talking about how 1.20 is going to beat even older versions like 1.8; especially in client performance
And the rest of that is just a given for any outdated versions - as time passes exploits, bugs, dupes, etc. are found and get fixed, but only in the latest versions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eLbiImMgcw there are a few videos covering this on YouTube as well, in this case they did a test on a different version with optimization mods, and on vanilla 1.20, and got twice the FPS on 1.20
That's just a quick test ofc, but the improvements are definitely visible
digital mica
thats beside the fact that the map is a EARTH map.
1:500 scale
where can I find the build to the maven project?
teal mulch
thats beside the fact that the map is a EARTH map.
That doesn't change anything? any map can be updated - Minecraft is specifically built and designed to allow that
There is an entire system specifically for that
digital mica
what system would that be
teal mulch
the DFU
digital mica
what do I do with this
teal mulch
Nothing, it's built-in to the game and is used to automatically update worlds
teal mulch
I Don't want better FPS
You are picking a very specific part - updating can be the difference between a server-crashing exploits and safe gameplay, there are many many benefits to doing it, and pretty much only downsides to not doing it
digital mica
For someone who does support, you speak of "exploits" and stuff. I am not worried about any of that or security risks. I just need a straight up 1.17.1 jar file
teal mulch
If you really want to, there are some old jars in #news, but these are entirely unsupported, and we heavily encourage you to just properly update
digital mica
ill take my chances
digital mica
Just keeping it open just in case
flat sundialBOT
teal mulch
Just keeping it open just in case
You can reopen it anytime, it's not locked or anything
digital mica
ok. Also with sentinel where can i find the 1.17.1 build?
@teal mulch
what would the build number be
for sentinel
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quick plume
solemn trout
Everyone are volunteers, when someone sees it they will helo, no need to ping
neat wedge
Old sentinel builds are in #news
digital mica
ok
flat sundialBOT
digital mica
ok?
flat sundialBOT
neat wedge
@digital mica is your problem solved?
digital mica
not quite.
dreamy bough
we ended up continuing in https://discord.com/channels/315163488085475337/1107461635678928947
digital mica
Just did some research, and Yes it will break my world if i update with opening the world to a newer mc version.
dreamy bough
but it doesn't appear to be solely sentinel related, it's just the version misunderstandings
dreamy bough
Just did some research, and Yes it will break my world if i update with opening ...
i'll respond to this via a post in #1027976885520584814, but per the previous thread, my download is almost done and i'll help with verifying that it can be updated to a supported version we can offer support for
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