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frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 4:53 PM

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(hyper) Denizen Tutorial Video

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frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 4:53 PM

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(hyper) Denizen Tutorial Videos

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Made a thread for this so I don't flood #actives-only with stuff about this lol

snow skiff Jan 21, 2023, 5:04 PM

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already emphasized in #actives-only but bringing it here too, it's improtant that we prioritize expanding the guide more than videos, but i mentioned also it'd be good if you both covered specifically the guide so people can follow along and that you let us review it, of course

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 5:17 PM

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snow skiff already emphasized in <#351925110866968576> but bringing it here too, it's impro...

for sure yeah, going to be following the guide so that people can refer to the guide for more information if they'd like. mainly want to make the tutorial videos for people who like watching videos rather than reading a ton of text in the guide yk? again, will definitely refer them to the guide every so often, telling them that if they want more information or want something elaborated they should either look at the corresponding guide page or ask in the discord.

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almost done with the installation and first script video rough draft script

snow skiff Jan 21, 2023, 5:18 PM

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i mean i struggle at reading sometimes so i can appreciate it, ye

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if you come across a section that isn't written yet but would fit nicely into your playlist, you should consider writing the guide + recording the video, or asking if someone wants to collab with the writing part

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 5:19 PM

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hey if somebody's at school or unable to read a ton and wants to learn how to do something in denizen rq, they can watch a video for a quick overview

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 5:19 PM

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snow skiff if you come across a section that isn't written yet but would fit nicely into yo...

definitely will do

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wow that did not go well, let me paste it regularly lol

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First and foremost, I recommend making a local test server for all of your Denizen scripts as you’re probably new to Denizen and probably don’t want to break anything on your main server. If you’re unsure on how to get a local host server up and running, I’ve left a link to a guide in the description that shows you how to set one up.
Now that you have your local host server, let's add Denizen and Depenizen.
Denizen is a plugin for Spigot servers that loads and runs user-written scripts automatically.
Depenizen is a bridge that connects various different plugins to Denizen, allowing for interaction between them. This one isn’t necessary right now, but you might want it in the future. 
I’ve left download links for these in the description. Note that for Denizen, there will be two links. One is the developmental build and the other will be the latest release build. I recommend that you download the developmental build for your local test server, and the latest release build for your main server.
Once they’ve finished downloading, let's put them into our plugins folder and restart the server. 
Once the server’s online, open up Minecraft, click on Multiplayer, and click the Add Server button. Enter localhost as the server address, and you can either leave the server name as is or name it, whatever floats your boat. You can also click the Direct Connection button if you don’t want to add another server to your server list.
Now that we have Denizen installed, we’ll need to install Visual Studio Code, a handy code editor, and the Denizen Extension for Visual Studio Code, which will provide general language support for .dsc files written for Denizen. I’ve, once again, left links for both of these in the description below. Installation of these two should be pretty self-explanatory, but all you need to do is click this big blue button, open the installation application, and keep clicking next. Once Visual Studio Code is installed, navigate over to the link in the description labeled VSC Denizen Extension and open it. Click on the green install button and a small window should pop up informing you that Visual Studio Code is required to install the extension. Since you just installed it, click the Continue button. You should get a pop up informing you that the website is trying to open Visual Studio Code, click the Open button and Visual Studio Code should open up and bring you to a page like this. Click the blue install button and you’ll have the Denizen Extension downloaded.```

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wrote this up, just an installation/setup video

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lmk what i should remove/add/change

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 6:38 PM

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thinking of whether i should add an explanation of the ex command and all into this one or put that in the next video

snow skiff Jan 21, 2023, 6:42 PM

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wait are you starting at what is denizen?

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i'd definitely cover multiple sections if you finish too quickly, but as long as theyre like, side-by-side

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 6:55 PM

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snow skiff wait are you starting at `what is denizen`?

very briefly, i jump to "how do i download denizen" and the "setting up a local test server"

snow skiff Jan 21, 2023, 6:57 PM

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offtopic for a moment, but do you have an "intro clip"?

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 6:58 PM

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not sure what you mean

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like a quick overview clip...?

snow skiff Jan 21, 2023, 7:06 PM

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from 0:00 til 0:20 in this video as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5qWplsXanY

YouTube

mcmonkey4eva

OLD Denizen DefsAndFlags Tutorials- READ THE GUIDES INSTEAD (See De...

HEY! This tutorial is very old and outdated and much of it no longer applies! Please join the Denizen Discord at https://discord.gg/Q6pZGSR to find more up-to-date information! And also the new text tutorials: https://guide.denizenscript.com/

▶ Play video

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 7:07 PM

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oh that yeah

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i do not have one of those lol

snow skiff Jan 21, 2023, 7:07 PM

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if you don't, and you have the opportunity to record a few cool clips of "random shit Denizen can do" per video, that'd be actually pretty cool to showcase either your own or other people's gifs/videos with a "Denizen Video Guides"

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but i wont impose harder work on you lol

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 7:07 PM

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snow skiff if you don't, and you have the opportunity to record a few cool clips of "random...

that was exactly what i had in mind lmao

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time to scour the discord 👀

snow skiff Jan 21, 2023, 7:08 PM

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i mean

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ill absolutely flood you with clips and videos if you need them LOL

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 7:08 PM

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go for it 😂

snow skiff Jan 21, 2023, 7:09 PM

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let me know how many you want at a time and ill build a few for you

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 7:09 PM

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send em all, i'll look through and see what looks best strung together

snow skiff Jan 21, 2023, 7:14 PM

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i won't spam them in this channel given it should be more specifically for your videoes, but you can start with: #1019830611000700970 message ,
#showcase , and this guy who shares a ton of his denizen powered clips

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 7:18 PM

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gotcha

serene harness Jan 21, 2023, 8:47 PM

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snow skiff i won't spam them in this channel given it should be more specifically for your ...

If you use peoples stuff from showcase you’d probably want to get permission first and give credit in the video or description or something but that’s a good idea

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 8:48 PM

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serene harness If you use peoples stuff from showcase you’d probably want to get permission fir...

i was going to just give credit with something like
Made by person#1234 in the bottom corner but yeah imma ask for permission real quick lol

serene harness Jan 21, 2023, 8:49 PM

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Nice

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 8:52 PM

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@snow skiff Do I have your permission to use the following clip? #1019830611000700970 message

snow skiff Jan 21, 2023, 8:56 PM

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frozen pebble <@194619362223718400> Do I have your permission to use the following clip? https...

that's actually @minor sluice 's clip, but i think he'd be more than happy to grant you permission
at the minimum he may request a little note of credit somewhere

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 8:56 PM

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gotcha

minor sluice Jan 21, 2023, 8:56 PM

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sure go for it

frozen pebble Jan 21, 2023, 8:58 PM

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epic

minor pawn Jan 22, 2023, 12:34 AM

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frozen pebble ```Hello and welcome to the first episode in a series that will show and explain...

this script is a dialogue speedrun

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You should probably preplan the visual side of the video in the same script

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ie plan out wtf is gonna be on screen while you're saying things

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for example for the download parts, you'll probably want video of you opening the download page and clicking download buttons and etc.

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The reason I say to plan that in advance is because with your current dialogue, the idea in my head for how you'd visually match the script, uh, doesn't match the script lol

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eg you mention the links towards the end of the downloading part, but you'll probably visually show those download pages more towards the beginning

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and then the latter part would be you putting them into the correct folder location and all

frozen pebble Jan 22, 2023, 12:52 AM

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yeah im going to show it i have a general idea of what im going to record but i'll add it in ig

frozen pebble Jan 22, 2023, 1:18 AM

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minor pawn this script is a dialogue speedrun

is there anything else you'd recommend i add?

frozen pebble Jan 22, 2023, 1:19 AM

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minor pawn and then the latter part would be you putting them into the correct folder locat...

i was going to show the links and download them as they appear in the script

frozen pebble Jan 22, 2023, 1:43 AM

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actually ykw, imma make the intro clip thing later lol

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idk how i should go about setting it up

next scroll Jan 22, 2023, 2:20 AM

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i'd say you should develop stuff more and take it more as a conversation than an info dump

frozen pebble Jan 22, 2023, 2:22 AM

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gotcha

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only thing is i don't want it to be like 50% filler and 50% content yk?

next scroll Jan 22, 2023, 2:25 AM

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no no, make it all content but without being info dump

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ofc dont add convo to parts that dont need it

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it should be added to lighten the mood of the video

frozen pebble Jan 22, 2023, 2:26 AM

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hmm

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frozen pebble hmm

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frozen pebble Jan 22, 2023, 2:26 AM

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yay

wheat muskBOT Jan 22, 2023, 2:26 AM

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+> YAY!!!

next scroll Jan 22, 2023, 2:26 AM

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idk bout u but if i went to a tutorial video and the guy was just mumbling about technical stuff and jargon i dont understand, i would quit it very easily

frozen pebble Jan 22, 2023, 2:27 AM

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understandable lol

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will go through and see what i can expand on and explain so that everything doesn't seem overwhelming

next scroll Jan 22, 2023, 2:27 AM

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yayie

wheat muskBOT Jan 22, 2023, 2:27 AM

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+> YAY!!!

frozen pebble Jan 22, 2023, 2:28 AM

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real

frozen pebble Mar 7, 2023, 3:04 AM

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hocus pocus

next scroll Mar 7, 2023, 4:22 AM

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did u make any progress already

frozen pebble Mar 7, 2023, 10:10 AM

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next scroll did u make any progress already

Not yet, I’ll be writing up a better script and all when I get home today though.

frozen pebble Mar 20, 2023, 11:25 PM

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i will actually make progress today SMILERS

frozen pebble Mar 20, 2023, 11:50 PM

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should I dedicate a portion of the video to explaining Denizen and all before going into the setup portion or....

next scroll Mar 20, 2023, 11:52 PM

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separate video titled "what is Denizen? should YOU use it?"

frozen pebble Mar 20, 2023, 11:52 PM

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yeah that's what i was also thinking lol

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if i went into the setup write after the explanation that would kind of make it seem like im in a rush to get to the next part

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would also extend the video time by a crap ton lol

next scroll Mar 20, 2023, 11:53 PM

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yeah lel

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do you have any portions of the script ready yet 👀

frozen pebble Mar 20, 2023, 11:53 PM

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writing it right now actually

next scroll Mar 20, 2023, 11:54 PM

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godspeed

frozen pebble Mar 20, 2023, 11:54 PM

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going heavily based off of the guide, gonna post the script right after im finished then record it once it gets checked by y'all

analog totem Mar 21, 2023, 1:15 AM

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yipee!

frozen pebble Mar 21, 2023, 2:25 AM

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alright, i've written up a draft that's really heavily based on the guide. let me know what i should change, add, or remove entirely :smilers:

📎 message.txt

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erm, that's not really easy to view lmao

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uh

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https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/107669

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Content of Plain Text Paste #107669: Unnamed Plain Text Paste... pasted 2023/03/20 19:25:52 UTC-07:00, Paste length: 4484 characters across 29 lines, Content: Before we get into the actual script-writing, Im sure youre wondering what Denizen is, what its capa...

next scroll Mar 21, 2023, 2:31 AM

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i think that part that talks about nms calls is almost word pasta, imo you should say that in a more.. talking..? way, instead of just listing them over

frozen pebble Mar 21, 2023, 2:36 AM

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yeah I’m not too familiar with nms calls, I know they’re like interactions with Minecraft code itself instead of with bukkit/spigot no?

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for sure need to rewrite that 😂

minor pawn Mar 21, 2023, 2:37 AM

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For instance, while Bukkit lacks an API for sticking arrows into an entity, Denizen can accomplish this task effortlessly with a single command.
this is actually something that needs revising in the guide

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this was true at the time but since then spigot added an api for it lol

frozen pebble Mar 21, 2023, 2:37 AM

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oh lmao

minor pawn Mar 21, 2023, 2:38 AM

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but also yeah the last few paragraphs seem to have been copypasted straight out of the guide

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which, the way i phrased it years ago in typing should not be the way you phrase it today spoken aloud for a video

frozen pebble Mar 21, 2023, 2:39 AM

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last two were rewritten yeah

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just wanted to get a quick draft out lol, but how do you reckon I should go about it?

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hmmm, maybe simplify the portion about NMS calls or something?

next scroll Mar 21, 2023, 3:10 AM

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nah can leave it as "complex" as it is, just change wording to be more approachable and friendly

limber anvil Mar 21, 2023, 7:14 AM

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Obviously depends on what video style are you going for, but I do feel like it should be a bit more talk-y yeah - feels a little like a speech now. Don't know what style are you going for but for example

Before we get into the actual script-writing, I'm sure you're wondering what Denizen is, what it's capable of, and why you might want to use it on your server. Simply put, Denizen is a plugin that runs user-written scripts allowing anyone, yes, even you, to achieve almost anything a regular Minecraft plugin could.

But before we jump into the wonderous world of programming, you're probably thinking: what even is Denizen? Why will you want to use it? What is this video talking about? Well, luckily, I can answer that. To put it simply, Making Java plugins for Minecraft often requires a fair bit of learning and Java knowledge, while Denizen provides an easy-to-understand alternative that allows anyone to quickly start their programming journey and make their own creations with ease!

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Obviously just a quick draft, but hopefully you can see what I meant here

frozen pebble Mar 21, 2023, 8:25 AM

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For sure yeah

frozen pebble Nov 26, 2023, 11:29 PM

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christ i forgot about this

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frozen pebble Nov 26, 2023, 11:29 PM

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i will get to this some day

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lmao

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 2:48 PM

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frozen pebble i will get to this some day

do you want a motivational coach to keep you on the idea? :p

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toasters make great cheerleaders

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 3:02 PM

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snow skiff do you want a motivational coach to keep you on the idea? :p

perchance

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 3:03 PM

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frozen pebble perchance

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Tenor

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we leave at sunrise then SCWsunglasses pack yer micy and OBS!

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Do you already have a video editing software set up?

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 3:21 PM

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snow skiff Do you already have a video editing software set up?

yeah I have everything set up I just need to like write up a good first video script and everything

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it’ll likely be getting the vscode editor and a local test server set up

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explaining what denizen is, alternatively I could have that be as a separate video

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 3:23 PM

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frozen pebble it’ll likely be getting the vscode editor and a local test server set up

Do you have time now?

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 3:24 PM

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snow skiff Do you have time now?

I’m currently at work lol

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rare time when customers don’t show up

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no bagels for them I guess :(

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 3:25 PM

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frozen pebble rare time when customers don’t show up

i could go for a bagel :(

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 3:25 PM

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I get off of work in like an hour or so, then will be home for a bit before having to head off. I’ll prob be free by 3:30 or 4pm est

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 3:26 PM

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snow skiff i could go for a bagel :(

I will ship some to you, can’t guarantee freshness though

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 3:38 PM

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frozen pebble I get off of work in like an hour or so, then will be home for a bit before havi...

!remindme 4pm to ask hyper how his first video is going wiggleseyebrows

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 9:05 PM

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i am now free and will now work on the script :)

cedar blade Dec 1, 2023, 9:06 PM

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@snow skiff beep boop this is your reminder to ask hyper how his first video is going

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 9:06 PM

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lol

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 9:11 PM

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cedar blade <@194619362223718400> beep boop this is your reminder `to ask hyper how his firs...

Good bot

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 9:11 PM

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frozen pebble I get off of work in like an hour or so, then will be home for a bit before havi...

Heyyy haha

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kekrvs

next scroll Dec 1, 2023, 9:38 PM

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snow skiff Good bot

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snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 9:59 PM

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frozen pebble i am now free and will now work on the script :)

do you want any help with a script/plot? wasnt sure if you were going to use uh

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 9:59 PM

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frozen pebble alright, i've written up a draft that's really heavily based on the guide. let m...

this still specifially^

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or if you were gonna follow through the guide

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 10:02 PM

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i might go through the guide and either condense stuff down or possibly expand on it? i think condensing it down would be good to refer people over to the denizen guide page, but not expanding it might result in lots of questions that may or may not be on the guide page. idk

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 10:02 PM

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snow skiff do you want any help with a script/plot? wasnt sure if you were going to use uh

yeah for sure

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 10:04 PM

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frozen pebble yeah for sure

what do you have so far? or are you working on it at the moment?

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if you go with the test server intro first, it'd be cool to start out of the box using our discy commands;

basic intro~~, zoom into HD pig face~~
a quick pointer at the #457966968826494977, then #1026104994149171200, #chatter, and #bot-spam
demonstrating staying updated via !update Paper Denizen (i'd save depenizen for a section/clip/intro of it's own or a video that requires it, introducing it as you use it a few ways)
quick link previews to:
- https://guide.denizenscript.com/ - for a more text based guided practice
- https://papermc.io/ and https://ci.citizensnpcs.co/job/Denizen_Developmental/ - the main two downloads for a test sever
- https://code.visualstudio.com/Download - for the extension, and both showing how to either download it via the extensions page or reference https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=DenizenScript.denizenscript
a very brief "see how easy and quick" demo of:
- start server, confirm taco deliciousness via eula.txt, start server again
voila, server is online, and maybe demo a quick /ex narrate and a /ex mount chicken|chicken|chicken to show it works

cedar blade Dec 1, 2023, 10:16 PM

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that seems like jumping ahead a bit lol

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first episode would ideally be 'what is denizen' lol

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depending on the length they're going for ofc

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No really a point going into finding your own information before you know how to use it

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 10:22 PM

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my writeup looks like a second video entirely if there's a background video, now we have two plots SCWsunglasses

cedar blade Dec 1, 2023, 10:22 PM

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~~third~~

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second would probably be 'here's how to get a test server running'

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depending on the desired length ofc

cedar blade Dec 1, 2023, 10:23 PM

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cedar blade second would probably be 'here's how to get a test server running'

but this is worth dedicating time to imo

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if it's made well, it would be highly useful even outside denizen contexts

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 10:24 PM

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i was just wondering how long youtube shorts were, and i cant think of anyone other than you, acikek, and krilliant flooding youtube shorts for hilarious cursed quick script videos

cedar blade Dec 1, 2023, 10:25 PM

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lol up-and-coming youtube denizen sphere

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1 minute, to answer your question

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anyway idk what hyper is doing rn, but i'm happy to help with scripting if desired

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 10:31 PM

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im currently fretting because i forgot i have a paper due on monday lmao

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but is ok

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i just ate lunch and am now at peace

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 10:32 PM

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upload paper instructions, call in MonkAI, we'll write a script to finish your homework kekw_dog

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 10:32 PM

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snow skiff upload paper instructions, call in MonkAI, we'll write a script to finish your h...

if only pou_sob

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 10:33 PM

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snow skiff i was just wondering how long youtube shorts were, and i cant think of anyone ot...

would be cool to fit something like a tutorial into a short

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 10:34 PM

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I want to practice video editing, im gonna see what i can mash up in some shorts demoing quick script ideas

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 10:34 PM

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snow skiff if you go with the test server intro first, it'd be cool to start out of the box...

i like this, but i also thing that inq is right about the first video explaining what denizen is

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splitting it up might be the best

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 10:36 PM

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would https://flags.sh/ be good to share alongside a test server intro for the startup batch?

flags.sh

A simple script generator to start your Minecraft servers with optimal flags.

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 10:38 PM

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i use the standard flags for my test server so idk tbh o.o

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possibly? jeb_shrug

snow skiff Dec 1, 2023, 10:47 PM

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I think I'm in a bad habit of always copying and pasting my startup actually, I forgot that most of my test servers are all on Linux and I just haven't easy screen -dmS testsever java -Xms2G -Xms2G -jar paper.jar

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maybe aikar is too complicated off the bat

next scroll Dec 1, 2023, 10:55 PM

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cedar blade second would probably be 'here's how to get a test server running'

this is definitely very important

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tutorial #0: what is denizen
tutorial #1: how to get your localhost test server running
tutorial #2: basics of denizen

cedar blade Dec 1, 2023, 10:59 PM

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this feels like a joke but that seems valid to me

cedar blade Dec 1, 2023, 11:02 PM

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snow skiff would https://flags.sh/ be good to share alongside a test server intro for the s...

were you not participating in the conversation like 2 days ago where we were told aikar's flags are at best useless

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so uhh

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probably not good to share

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best to make it as easy as possible to follow for watchers

next scroll Dec 1, 2023, 11:12 PM

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cedar blade this feels like a joke but that seems valid to me

no its not a joke lmao

frozen pebble Dec 1, 2023, 11:13 PM

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cedar blade best to make it as easy as possible to follow for watchers

^^^ this

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i might say something along the lines of "copy this from the description and paste it, it basically allocates so and so amount of your ram to the server"

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something along those lines at least, will see

snow skiff Dec 2, 2023, 12:44 AM

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cedar blade were you not participating in the conversation like 2 days ago where we were tol...

i forgot what the outcome of the conversation was actually, cause it came up again on reddit someplace

cedar blade Dec 2, 2023, 12:45 AM

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#actives-only message

snow skiff Dec 2, 2023, 12:46 AM

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oh, i was thinking about trusting the vm engineers being the worst part lol

snow skiff Dec 3, 2023, 2:18 AM

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frozen pebble im currently fretting because i forgot i have a paper due on monday lmao

heyyyy hows that paper goin fingerguns hahaa

frozen pebble Dec 3, 2023, 2:43 AM

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snow skiff heyyyy hows that paper goin <:fingerguns:570071246708932618> hahaa

I got an outline for the paper going, will finish the paper early tomorrow and then hopefully get a start for this 😭

snow skiff Dec 3, 2023, 2:49 AM

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clappy

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we belieeeeve in yoou!

verbal cedar Dec 3, 2023, 5:40 AM

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frozen pebble would be cool to fit something like a tutorial into a short

Pull a GLaDOS and speed it up by 1000x and just tell them to remember it in slow motion

snow skiff Dec 7, 2023, 2:59 AM

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frozen pebble I got an outline for the paper going, will finish the paper early tomorrow and t...

heyyy hows your week lookin so far? wiggleseyebrows

frozen pebble Dec 7, 2023, 3:02 AM

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lol i forgot again 😭

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i don't think i have anything to do after work tomorrow (and the days following) or this weekend, pretty sure i have everything finished so i can for sure work on this

snow skiff Dec 7, 2023, 3:03 AM

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snow skiff toasters make great cheerleaders

dont worry i'm just here voluntarily

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frozen pebble Dec 7, 2023, 8:36 PM

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it's time!!

cedar blade Dec 7, 2023, 8:39 PM

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yay!

wheat muskBOT Dec 7, 2023, 8:39 PM

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+> YAY!!!

cedar blade Dec 7, 2023, 8:40 PM

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have all the celebration emotes i can find

frozen pebble Dec 7, 2023, 8:40 PM

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the super reactions, my eyes 😭

cedar blade Dec 7, 2023, 8:41 PM

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Coincidentally two of them are birds

frozen pebble Dec 7, 2023, 8:41 PM

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so many colors

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okay so

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uh

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lets see

frozen pebble Dec 7, 2023, 9:55 PM

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am working on it now

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writing it out, at least

cedar blade Dec 7, 2023, 10:12 PM

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let us know if you'd like any help

cedar blade Dec 7, 2023, 11:44 PM

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how's it going ;)

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 12:18 AM

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mmmmmmmmm not that well

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i feel like im at a standstill

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 12:27 AM

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Okay, well, for now, are you planning out more of the series or starting scripting the first video?

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 12:29 AM

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i think it'd be best if i introduce denizen, its basic syntax (i guess?) and some basic explanations of tags

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then introduce the whole setup of a test server, vscode, and the extension in the next video

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and then the one after is where i introduce the other stuff

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i think bite-sized content is what people prefer nowadays, so the shorter and more informative the content is the more people get hooked and want to watch more yk?

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but at the same time there's also the audience who prefers longer, more in-depth videos so im not sure what to do tbh

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 12:31 AM

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I'd aim for 5-10 minutes per video, but I don't think it's vitally important

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The first would probably be amoung the shortest

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I think it'd be a very good idea to look at the text guide for inspiration in terms of how to 'sort' the topics

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!g

brazen ibexBOT Dec 8, 2023, 12:32 AM

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cedar blade !g

Guides

View the Denizen Beginner's Guide at https://guide.denizenscript.com/

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 12:33 AM

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The first video would probably map quite well to the background section there

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Start by explaining what denizen is, then show an example or two of something out-of-the-ordinary and cool you might do with it

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Maybe for dramatic effect have one be something simple and funny, exploding chickens or whatever, and the other something impressive-looking (probably ripped off resources or showcase)

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Then like 'You're probably thinking that you couldn't do something like this, but it's actually super easy'

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Finalizing by explaining the format the rest of the series will take

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plus or minus intro and outro

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Overall, does that sound about right?

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 12:36 AM

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yeah that definitely sounds like something i'd go for lol

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i think i keep getting into the in-depth explanation portion of things rather than simply skimming over them

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 12:36 AM

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Yeah I can see that

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 12:37 AM

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going to see what i can pick apart from the What is Denizen? section

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 12:37 AM

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Fortunetly you have the combined strength of the helpers here, who have upwards of years of experience in explaining Denizen in a way people can understand

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 12:38 AM

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yay

wheat muskBOT Dec 8, 2023, 12:39 AM

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+> YAY!!!

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 1:29 AM

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frozen pebble going to see what i can pick apart from the `What is Denizen?` section

hows it lookin' good cookin'? SCWsunglasses

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 1:39 AM

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perchance

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Hey! Welcome to the first tutorial of many about Denizen, a powerful scripting plugin that lets you run custom written scripts on your Minecraft server! In this video, I’ll show you what Denizen is, and what it can do! In the future, we’ll be taking a deep dive into Denizen and (almost) all it has to offer. For now though, let me show you what Denizen is all about.

[show Denizen logo] 
As I mentioned before, Denizen is a plugin that lets you run custom written scripts, but what does a Denizen script look like? And what does everything really mean in life? I can’t answer that last question, but I *can* answer the first question: Denizen is pretty simple once you get the gist of it! Here’s a very simple script example:

epic_script:
    type: task
    script:
    - narrate "Hello, <player.name>."

This example script, when run, greets the player by name. It’s highly similar to YAML, a file format frequently used to configure plugins like Essentials, MythicMobs, and many other plugins.

At its very base, Denizen has a command-tag syntax, *almost* similar to a command being run in Minecraft, but in a slightly different fashion. A command is something you’re most likely familiar with. You likely frequently use commands like `/gamemode creative` or `/teleport player`. These commands can be rewritten in Denizen by replacing the slash (/) with a hyphen (-). 

To put it basically, tags are usually used as a way of getting additional information from something. As an example, you could obtain whether a certain block of grass on your server is snowy or not.

I’m sure you’re wondering what other people have made with Denizen, and there’s actually a very interesting showcase channel in their official Discord! People who feel that they’ve made something showcase-worthy can pop their script into the channel along with a description of what their script does, you might even see a video or two every so often! Here are some really cool scripts by community members that I found:
[list cool scripts and stuff]```

i feel there's definitely a lot i could add or clarify, but here's a starting base

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i completely scratched what i had above and started anew

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 1:47 AM

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frozen pebble ```[intro] Hey! Welcome to the first tutorial of many about Denizen, a powerful ...

do a roleplay run!

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Record it, and if you want, paste it here- but just rewatch it and take notes, make it an official draft

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owoCheer

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 1:49 AM

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honestly i might lol

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 1:49 AM

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doitdoitdoit

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confetti
owoCheer

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This was from me reading your first paragraph out loud just now

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 1:51 AM

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frozen pebble ```[intro] Hey! Welcome to the first tutorial of many about Denizen, a powerful ...

You're getting deeper into the mechanics than I think you should here

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 1:51 AM

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20s * 6 == 120s, 2 minutes, ez draft to start with

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 1:51 AM

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One of the problems with a tutorial like this is trying not to scare people away lol

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if it sounds complicated, they're less likely to stick around

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I uhh

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don't know of a great way to suggest changes without just writing for you which i'm assuming you don't want but

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 1:53 AM

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cedar blade don't know of a great way to suggest changes without just writing for you which ...

do it do it

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 1:53 AM

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it's their tutorial lol, I don't think they want to just act out something I wrote

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 1:53 AM

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go inquisitor go
confetti owoCheer

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 1:54 AM

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anyway you're missing a hook here, which is what I was going for in suggesting the small, funny example earlier

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first paragraph seems cool, but I'd jump into some silly example to show customization

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like

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'Imagine if you wanted to make it so when you name a chicken 'steve', it explodes' over a hyper-speed clip of that script being made, then a quick clip of you using a name tag on a chicken and it exploding

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You could even move your joke over to that format

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have like 3 real examples of super simple scripts to show off customization you couldn't get elsewhere

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and end it off with some joke about denizen not being able to fix your social life or whatever in the same format

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(maybe with a clip of touching grass if that's your thing)

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The script so far suggest high-pace editing, so i'm assuming that's what you were going for

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and that conforms to it ^

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This first episode shouldn't really be a tutorial

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It's a hook to draw them into actually learning

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 1:58 AM

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I don't know if this is just in my head but it kind of looks like you type faster when you see me typing lol

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but a draft of a tutorial video script could provide inspiration for another script by offering new ideas, structures, and approaches to the same topic, stimulating creative thinking and facilitating a quicker and more efficient writing process for him, it sounds like he mightve gotten writers block in the mix of writing one himself

limber anvil Dec 8, 2023, 1:58 AM

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For the first few example scripts, I'd suggest also going for visual simplicity, I.e. something someone with 0 Denizen knowledge will be able to mostly make sense out of

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 1:58 AM

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It should at least look small at a glance ye

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I wouldn't linger on the code though

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I suggested like

limber anvil Dec 8, 2023, 1:59 AM

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Knowing nothing and still being able to get a single script is a big thing to incentivizing people to stay

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 1:59 AM

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a hacker montage style thing

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here i will

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 2:00 AM

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snow skiff but a draft of a tutorial video script could provide inspiration for another scr...

write a small amount

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 2:01 AM

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cedar blade here i will

I'll race you to make one right now

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you can type and ill record,goodluck eat mi dust

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||wheres my selfy stick||

limber anvil Dec 8, 2023, 2:02 AM

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I'd say start with something hyper-simple and show you write it, e.g.

on player moves:
- explode

And talk through making it in a way that expresses the simplicity, then have a few slightly more complex hacker-montage style examples as a showcase

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1 super simple walked through thing to show how easy it is to start out, then a slightly more complex thing, and then a massive super impressive thing would be a good hook imo

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 2:04 AM

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agreed, i'm just trying to figure out markdown real quick lmao

limber anvil Dec 8, 2023, 2:04 AM

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Show simplicity, small buildup, then hook with something extreme

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 2:06 AM

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gotcha gotcha

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appreciate all the feedback <3

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im half asleep rn am going to bed will work on this more tomorrow

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 2:11 AM

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I started to record it and I cringed myself out trying to read the guide word for word infront of the camera SCgrin

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 2:12 AM

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I'm trying to remember how to detect naming a mob lol

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 2:12 AM

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right click entity with:nametag?

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 2:13 AM

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chicken_flight:
    type: world
    events:
        on player right clicks chicken with:name_tag:
        - if <player.item_in_hand.display.if_null[null]> == steve:
            - adjust <context.entity> velocity:0,100,0

does this look right lol

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I'm currently coding in Obsidian which is

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not ideal

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 2:13 AM

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I mean I don't know how morally right it is to launch chickens like that but the script is right lol

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!t itemtag.display

brazen ibexBOT Dec 8, 2023, 2:13 AM

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snow skiff !t itemtag.display

Tag: <ItemTag.display>

Returns the display name of the item, as set by plugin or an anvil.

Group

properties

Returns

ElementTag

Mechanism

ItemTag.display

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 2:13 AM

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haha well my original idea was to explode them

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But I stole aya's idea so i already used that

limber anvil Dec 8, 2023, 2:14 AM

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Well, technically, I believe name_tag[display=steve] is a valid matcher?

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 2:14 AM

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oh yeah it is

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feels illegal

limber anvil Dec 8, 2023, 2:14 AM

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What do you mean feels?

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!rule 6

brazen ibexBOT Dec 8, 2023, 2:14 AM

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limber anvil !rule 6

Rule 6

Don't do anything here that would obviously get you banned from anywhere else. https://denizenscript.com/discord_rules#rule6

Don't do anything illegal. Software piracy is a crime. Cracking minecraft is illegal.
Don't post anything highly NSFW.
Don't post anything super controversial.

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 2:15 AM

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oh god

limber anvil Dec 8, 2023, 2:15 AM

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@ancient pumice apprehand @snow skiff

ancient pumiceBOT Dec 8, 2023, 2:15 AM

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limber anvil <@492222895058059274> apprehand <@194619362223718400>

Unknown Command

Unknown command. Consider the help command?

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 2:15 AM

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I know it's valid, but i've never seen anyone use item matchers with properties like that

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like behr said, it just feels like it should be wrong

limber anvil Dec 8, 2023, 2:16 AM

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Yeah it feels a bit weird lol, but item property matchers were added specifically for items and all a while back, so it's definitely fine

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 2:18 AM

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snow skiff I started to record it and I cringed myself out trying to read the guide word fo...

i can like read it aloud and record it, expressions/emphasis and all, pretty easily but i don't know how good it'd be to follow the guide literally word for word 😭

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 2:18 AM

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!resources

brazen ibexBOT Dec 8, 2023, 2:18 AM

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cedar blade !resources

Info: resources

If you'd like to share your Denizen script, or view scripts shared by others, you can use the Denizen resources page: https://forum.denizenscript.com/resources/.

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 2:18 AM

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(for me)

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 2:19 AM

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i also hate talking in front of a camera

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public speaking is my worst enemy

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 2:19 AM

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oh torch light is broken :(

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i was going to use it for an example

limber anvil Dec 8, 2023, 2:19 AM

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dModels could probably be pretty good for the extreme example

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...all the way to fully customized entity models!

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 2:21 AM

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I'm stealing @snow skiff script for a mid-level example

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 2:21 AM

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i thought you said you were stealing behr, not his script 😭

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 2:21 AM

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limber anvil dModels could probably be pretty good for the extreme example

for sure

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 2:26 AM

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i'm just stealing forum scripts and hoping they're decent lol

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here

📎 Denizen_Script_draft_1.md

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oof that does not format into discord well

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anyway it looks a lot more complicated than it is because i went overboard on editing directions

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that's ^ probably like 2 minutes or so lol?

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it is, as I said before, scripted at a blistering pace

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it is not at all the only way to format something like this, but it is one way

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I'll uhh

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## Intro
Hey! Welcome to the first tutorial of many about Denizen, a powerful scripting plugin that lets you make custom plugins super easily for your Minecraft server! In this video, I’ll show you what Denizen is, and what it can do! In the future, we’ll be taking a deep dive into Denizen and (almost) all it has to offer. For now though, let me show you what Denizen is all about.
So imagine you wanted to make it so that on your server, when you jump, you *explode.* 
Here's how you do that
Pretty simple, right? 
And now, when I jump...
Or, what if you wanted to make it so that whenever you named a chicken 'steve', it flew into the sky?
Or, what if you wanted to give all your players a halo using particles?
Or, what if you wanted to make it so you could sit on stairs and slabs by clicking them,*
Or, what if you wanted to replicate all of essentials, or create a land claim system, or add pets, or custom items, 
or even fully customized entity models!
And yes, this script is real, and it's a good example of just how much you can do with Denizen if you put the time into it, but let's start simple.
I know all of that looks super complicated, but it's actually really easy to start using denizen. You don't need to know how to code, and you don't even need to be that smart. Denizen scripts are formatted in almost the same way as a plugin config file, and are almost just as easy to make. And don't worry, it's *really* hard to lag your server with Denizen, it's made to be super easy to use and hard to mess up. So, let's get started!

here's the entirety of the text that's on there

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 3:10 AM

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%%Causal music, shot in Minecraft in 2nd person.%%

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 3:12 AM

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snow skiff I started to record it and I cringed myself out trying to read the guide word fo...

against my own embarrasment i did it again but without face-camming

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shit you beat me to it

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 3:16 AM

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the subway surfers would be funny to have lmao

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 3:19 AM

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gah damn that took 7 1/2 minutes?

analog totem Dec 8, 2023, 3:20 AM

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snow skiff shit you beat me to it

not enough edits and explosions and fast transitions my attention span has died out

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 3:21 AM

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real

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 3:21 AM

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analog totem not enough edits and explosions and fast transitions my attention span has died ...

look at my version then

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i got you covered

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8-9 jump cuts in like 2 minutes

analog totem Dec 8, 2023, 3:22 AM

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i remember i tried to make a gun tutorial but i messed up typing

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 3:22 AM

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i like doing jump cuts

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much fun

analog totem Dec 8, 2023, 3:22 AM

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and had to do too many cuts and i got bored

next scroll Dec 8, 2023, 4:00 AM

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snow skiff shit you beat me to it

wait its pronounced denezen??? i've always pronounced it the knee zen lmfao

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 4:01 AM

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next scroll wait its pronounced denezen??? i've always pronounced it the knee zen lmfao

hwhot kek

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the knee zen?

next scroll Dec 8, 2023, 4:01 AM

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yeah thats how i've always pronounced it xD

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 4:01 AM

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with a T-H? kekw_dog

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 4:02 AM

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i think this deserves a double down arrow dnt role

next scroll Dec 8, 2023, 4:02 AM

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ah shit i always forget the is supposed to make an actual th sound xD nono i meant it as if just a D

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snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 4:03 AM

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ooo

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ive pronounced it 'din is in' lol

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 4:13 AM

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next scroll

this is wrong

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Denizen is an english word lol

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den-uh-ZEN

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you could pronounce the stressed syllable zin or zen, but you can't move the stress lol

next scroll Dec 8, 2023, 4:56 AM

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too bad

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denizen ftw

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 2:30 PM

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cedar blade den-uh-ZEN

"UH"? SCchomp

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snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 3:46 PM

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so what time you off today @frozen pebble?

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wiggleseyebrows

verbal cedar Dec 8, 2023, 4:20 PM

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@lofty wind what time is hyper off today?

lofty windBOT Dec 8, 2023, 4:20 PM

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verbal cedar <@1109134469836841091> what time is hyper off today?

I'm sorry, but Hyper is not a person here in the Denizen community. If you need help with something related to denizen or have any questions about it feel free to ask me!

verbal cedar Dec 8, 2023, 4:20 PM

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He's not real behr

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Who are you talking to?

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 4:23 PM

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kek

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 5:33 PM

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snow skiff so what time you off today <@129342706693439488>?

now

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but im probably going to take a nap

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 6:01 PM

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clappy

delicate talon Dec 8, 2023, 6:04 PM

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powernap?

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 6:16 PM

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delicate talon powernap?

delicate talon Dec 8, 2023, 6:21 PM

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@frozen pebble yoo are u awake

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no power nap then

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 6:31 PM

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i have arisen

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 6:32 PM

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snow skiff

new tag alert

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 6:33 PM

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cedar blade ``` ## Intro Hey! Welcome to the first tutorial of many about Denizen, a power...

i like this

limber anvil Dec 8, 2023, 6:33 PM

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frozen pebble new tag alert

!t is_sleeping

brazen ibexBOT Dec 8, 2023, 6:33 PM

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limber anvil !t is_sleeping

Cannot Specify Searched Tag

Multiple possible tags: <EntityTag.is_sleeping>, <NPCTag.is_sleeping>.

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 6:33 PM

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need a human object

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tag

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or whatever

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HumanTag.is_sleeping

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do you want me to edit/tweak the video script that you posted or

limber anvil Dec 8, 2023, 6:46 PM

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I might make some suggestions later

delicate talon Dec 8, 2023, 6:47 PM

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/ex adjust <human[hyper]> powernap:true

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 6:51 PM

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frozen pebble do you want me to edit/tweak the video script that you posted or

I don't think he would mind if you edited what he posted

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 6:52 PM

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delicate talon `/ex adjust <human[hyper]> powernap:true`

im feeling drowsy what's going o-

delicate talon Dec 8, 2023, 6:52 PM

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I have no idea

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ask behr

snow skiff Dec 8, 2023, 6:55 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/steve-carrell-magic-tada-magician-trick-gif-15099383

Tenor

delicate talon Dec 8, 2023, 6:57 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/creed-creed-the-office-creed-picture-creed-the-office-picture-take-picture-gif-24939232

Tenor

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 7:03 PM

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frozen pebble do you want me to edit/tweak the video script that you posted or

(if this is to me, then yeah, go ahead lol)

frozen pebble Dec 8, 2023, 7:35 PM

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cedar blade ``` ## Intro Hey! Welcome to the first tutorial of many about Denizen, a power...

i think the wording about Denizen letting you make custom plugins is slightly inaccurate? i mean, you'd be recreating the functionality of plugins but

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i guess something like that might be best while explaining to someone unfamiliar with denizen

cedar blade Dec 8, 2023, 7:39 PM

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correct on both counts

next scroll Dec 9, 2023, 12:09 AM

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frozen pebble i think the wording about Denizen letting you make custom plugins is slightly in...

just say exactly that lmao

In Denizen, you can easily create your own custom plugins! Well, you recreate the functionality of a plugin, but it's not really a plugin, but that's something we'll talk about later! or something

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might even add a small difference between plugins and scripts chapter in the vid

frozen pebble Dec 9, 2023, 12:13 AM

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lol didn't think of that kek

snow skiff Dec 9, 2023, 12:19 AM

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g0 hyper g000 Make that vide000!

frozen pebble Dec 9, 2023, 12:20 AM

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snow skiff g0 hyper g000 Make that vide000!

yeeee

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i might record it a few times and see if anything sounds off

analog totem Dec 9, 2023, 12:22 AM

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cedar blade ``` ## Intro Hey! Welcome to the first tutorial of many about Denizen, a power...

ime no like the intro

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ever wanted to let yourself explode whenever you jump?

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direct more?

snow skiff Dec 9, 2023, 12:25 AM

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analog totem ever wanted to let yourself explode whenever you jump?

That sounds like a wonderful advertisement for some bomb ass shoe

cedar blade Dec 9, 2023, 1:35 AM

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next scroll just say exactly that lmao ``In Denizen, you can easily create your own custom ...

disagree

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that doesn't help anything

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the practical differences between a script and an independant plugin are nonexistent and we want to avoid being needlessly complicated

cedar blade Dec 9, 2023, 1:36 AM

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analog totem ime no like the intro

can someone translate this into english for me lol

snow skiff Dec 9, 2023, 1:36 AM

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cedar blade that doesn't help anything

Well, similar to the guide section there is a tiny note that comments on that for those who are concerned that the scripts would be less performant than a plugin made in Java would be

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specificcally the " If it's so easy then, what's the catch?" part lol

snow skiff Dec 9, 2023, 1:37 AM

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cedar blade can someone translate this into english for me lol

daxz translate: they don't like the intro

limber anvil Dec 9, 2023, 1:37 AM

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snow skiff Well, similar to the guide section there is a tiny note that comments on that fo...

That entire topic is important to talk about, just not in the intro/first video

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Imo the intro needs to be as simple and in "common terms" or whatever as possible

cedar blade Dec 9, 2023, 1:37 AM

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analog totem ever wanted to let yourself explode whenever you jump?

the thing i'm trying to stress is customizability

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i.e why would you use denizen instead of a premade plugin

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There is no plugin that explodes you when you jump

amber flare Dec 9, 2023, 1:38 AM

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cedar blade can someone translate this into english for me lol

"I don't like the intro"

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Vision failure, didn't see

snow skiff Dec 9, 2023, 1:38 AM

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amber flare "I don't like the intro"

(offtopic, i love daxz speak lmfao)

limber anvil Dec 9, 2023, 1:38 AM

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limber anvil Imo the intro needs to be as simple and in "common terms" or whatever as possibl...

Random people don't care if it's actually like a plugin but really not because it's a plugin that lets you make scripts which can be like plugins but don't count as ones even though you can replace plugins with them

amber flare Dec 9, 2023, 1:39 AM

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I have a similar way of speaking with my friend group j

analog totem Dec 9, 2023, 1:48 AM

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see me found denzien because uh i enever knew java existed

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andblike

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i used other rplugins but are bad and didnt feel programmy enough

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like i knew pygthon existed

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but not java

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so i was looking for a py alternative for plugins

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ykyk

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and denizen was a lot more peogramming like

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as compared to skeipt or like customcommands or a config file

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and that was what drew me in

analog totem Dec 9, 2023, 1:49 AM

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snow skiff (offtopic, i love daxz speak lmfao)

mpbile is hard to type

cedar blade Dec 9, 2023, 1:50 AM

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We are not really catering to people looking to program in minecraft

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That is to say, we mostly want to emphasis that it is not so much like programming, because that scares people

analog totem Dec 9, 2023, 1:50 AM

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but like why denizen

amber flare Dec 9, 2023, 1:50 AM

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analog totem mpbile is hard to type

Don't worry, we eliminated the last of the prescriptivists back in '98

analog totem Dec 9, 2023, 1:50 AM

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as compared to smth simpler

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maybe flex the npc integerstion

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since it has direct line of contact to citizens

minor pawn Dec 9, 2023, 1:51 AM

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daxz have you considered enabling autocorrect

amber flare Dec 9, 2023, 1:51 AM

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denizen is extremely simple tbh

cedar blade Dec 9, 2023, 1:51 AM

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analog totem but like why denizen

customization

amber flare Dec 9, 2023, 1:51 AM

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simple with complex capabilities

cedar blade Dec 9, 2023, 1:51 AM

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this is why i said what i did 5 minutes ago lol

analog totem Dec 9, 2023, 1:51 AM

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minor pawn daxz have you considered enabling autocorrect

always autocorrects to smth differnt though

cedar blade Dec 9, 2023, 1:51 AM

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that's Denizen's big draw

limber anvil Dec 9, 2023, 1:51 AM

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~~Or just get good /j, I do most of my typing here on mobile~~

cedar blade Dec 9, 2023, 1:51 AM

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It's easy enough for anybody to use but allows you to do things you couldn't otherwise do

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for experienced users it gets more power in other areas, but that's not the people who need to be hooked into using it

limber anvil Dec 9, 2023, 1:53 AM

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^ That's what I was talking about yesterday, the intro needs to highlight simplicity and have a shock value with something like dModels

cedar blade Dec 9, 2023, 1:53 AM

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also since I apparently have a decent proportion of the helper team rn, what are your thoughts on moving this into a #guide-writing thread

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obviously it is not the guide

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but it's related, and has a scope that sort of surpasses a denizen help thread

amber flare Dec 9, 2023, 1:55 AM

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🥸 acikak the helper says sure

minor pawn Dec 9, 2023, 1:55 AM

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would make sense ye

frozen pebble Dec 9, 2023, 2:04 AM

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sounds good

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Continued: https://discord.com/channels/315163488085475337/1182865377684893786

limber deltaBOT Dec 9, 2023, 2:05 AM

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