(Winkzy) Can't Remove Nameplates

[stone turret]

Even after doing /name, having it set to "false", and restarting the server, it still does not remove the name.

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(Winkzy) Can't Remove Nameplates

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[primal laurel]

!logs

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Info: logs

Please post your full latest log file.

Background Info: One of the most helpful tools to identifying the source of a problem is your server logs file! Logs contain all sorts of important information like server and plugin versions, any error messages, and a lot more important information (More Info).

How To: Your log can be found in the logs folder within your server folder. The most recent log is a text file labeled latest.log. To get help using these logs, please open that file in a text editor and copy all of the text, then open https://paste.denizenscript.com/New/Log and paste the text into the box on the page. Then click "Submit" and copy the URL and paste that back into this channel.

Please do not upload the file to Discord or to other pastebin services, use the log pastebin linked above.

[primal laurel]

@stone turret

[stone turret]

i dont have any errors in logs though...

[primal laurel]

thats not the point. theres other info we need before starting to debug

[stone turret]

OKay

Lemme restart server, ill post it

https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/103308

@primal laurel

[primal laurel]

!logcheck https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/103308

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Log Check Results

Server Version

Excalibur version git-Airplane-"5fabeea" (MC: 1.17.1)

Plugin Version(s)

Citizens v2.0.30-SNAPSHOT (build 2759) -- (Outdated build, behind by 6)

Checked For

@primal laurel

Online/Offline

Offline, but proxied.

Other Noteworthy Plugin(s)

WorldGuard v7.0.7+216b061, ProtocolLib v4.8.0

Problematic Plugin(s)

PlugManX v2.3.0 - :warning: Plugin Managers are dangerous and will cause unpredictable issues. Remove it.
CitizensCMD v2.6.6 - :warning: NPC Command plugins have never had a valid reason to exist, as there have always been better ways to do that. The modern way is https://wiki.citizensnpcs.co/NPC_Commands.

Possibly Relevant Plugin(s)

TAB v3.1.5 - This plugin adds Below_Name scoreboards to NPCs.
ViaVersion v4.4.2 - Mixed client vs server versions can sometimes cause packet-related issues.
FastAsyncWorldEdit v2.4.10-SNAPSHOT-303;983e440 - This plugin has been known to break the plugin load order on many servers, due to usage of the 'loadbefore' directive in its 'plugin.yml'.

Potentially Bad Line(s)

Starting Minecraft server on 0.0.0.0:25573 - server is offline but has no address bind. This might mean you're using a system level firewall, but if not, it means your proxy is bypassable by hackers. Either enable a system level firewall, or bind your server to localhost in server.properties via server-ip=127.0.0.1.
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot read the array length because "<local5>" is null :warning: Log contains error messages.

[stone turret]

What is the error?

[primal laurel]

im feeling pretty sure that you should remove CItizensCMD

restart and retry the normal citizens command

[stone turret]

Never been an issue in the past though...

[primal laurel]

so... here's my reasoning. i might be wrong, but check it out:

you have a problem using a citizens command, it doesnt work
you have a 3rd party plugin extention to citizens that literall changes behavior of commands
that 3rd party plugin is neither supported nor encouraged by the ACTUAL authors of Citizens
whether or not it ever was a problem before, you seem to be having a problem now
we could spend an hour trying a variety of tests
or you could quickly disable the unspported plugin, restart, use the actual name command and see if it works correctly

[warm kiln]

this is typically caused by scoreboard plugins like TAB, which is probably the culprit here

You should probably remove citizenscmd, but it's highly unlikely to be the cause of this specific issue, it's just not useful lol

[primal laurel]

i stand corrected. thank you 🙂

[warm kiln]

if you can, test this by removing it real quick and seeing if your problem is fixed

i believe they have a way to fix it within their plugin if that's the problem, but no sense working on that until we know that it matters

note that it's also possible that it's caused by your unsupported spigot fork, in which case there's not really anything we can do

[stone turret]

So if it is, what would I do?

How would i replace all the config stuff ive done to TAB

[warm kiln]

try it first lol

no need for 'what ifs' when we can just test

[stone turret]

tab didnt change nothing

i just removed it, restarted

same issue

@warm kiln

let me send another console log in a moment.

[primal laurel]

i know Iquisitor said it is highly unlikely to be CitizensCMD, but im still suspicious of it. i mean, im no expert, but i mean just general troubleshooting

I would remove both TAB and CMD, and restart. it's easy enough to do, easy to reverse. saves time going down dead end paths if it is the problem, otherwise it gives you confidence to not worry about it if it isn't.

[stone turret]

i already removed it

lol

none of those 2 are the issue.

Sorry if im mad, ive had plugin issues all day, just bought a setup and its pissing me off lmfao

[primal laurel]

ok, well, thats good, and now at least we have confirmed its not the easy fix.

[stone turret]

https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/103309

[primal laurel]

beleive me, i totally get it. okay, so im afraid im going to have to step out of this. i was just shooting for some lowhanging fruit while the REAL helpers were busy. I also am now suddenly locked out of my own server for some bizarre authentication reason ive never seen before, so i'll be even more worthless than usual./

[stone turret]

lol

[primal laurel]

!logcheck https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/103309

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Log Check Results

Server Version

Excalibur version git-Airplane-"5fabeea" (MC: 1.17.1)

Plugin Version(s)

Citizens v2.0.30-SNAPSHOT (build 2759) -- (Outdated build, behind by 6)

Checked For

@primal laurel

Online/Offline

Offline, but proxied.

Other Noteworthy Plugin(s)

WorldGuard v7.0.7+216b061, ProtocolLib v4.8.0

Problematic Plugin(s)

PlugManX v2.3.0 - :warning: Plugin Managers are dangerous and will cause unpredictable issues. Remove it.

Possibly Relevant Plugin(s)

ViaVersion v4.4.2 - Mixed client vs server versions can sometimes cause packet-related issues.
FastAsyncWorldEdit v2.4.10-SNAPSHOT-303;983e440 - This plugin has been known to break the plugin load order on many servers, due to usage of the 'loadbefore' directive in its 'plugin.yml'.

Potentially Bad Line(s)

Starting Minecraft server on 0.0.0.0:25573 - server is offline but has no address bind. This might mean you're using a system level firewall, but if not, it means your proxy is bypassable by hackers. Either enable a system level firewall, or bind your server to localhost in server.properties via server-ip=127.0.0.1.
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot read the array length because "<local5>" is null :warning: Log contains error messages.

[primal laurel]

okay, well you definitely removed them! 😄

ive never heard of Excalibur/Airplane that's totally new to me. I cant say anytyhing about it, but like anything unusual, its suspicious. Its probably a moot point, but why wouldnt you use Paper? you're going to have a hard time getting support for many plugins, not just here, i think.

[stone turret]

Excalibur is a custom fork of spigot

[primal laurel]

well, im sure Inquisitor or someone else will be around hopefully they can help you more than I can. it's saturday night in US and early sunday am in EUR, so you might have to wait a little bit

[stone turret]

yeah its 12 am for me rn

[acoustic fog]

what the fuck am i looking at

im only finding resource packs for this server platform;

!forks

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Info: forks

Our plugins (Citizens, Sentinel, and Denizen) officially support both Spigot and Paper.
Any other forks of the Bukkit project are not supported, but may or may not work in practice.

• Lower forks, like CraftBukkit, do not function. You must upgrade to a higher fork (Spigot or Paper).

• Hard forks and cross-forks, like Cauldron/Magma/Mohist/Any other Forge-integration fork, or Cardboard/any other Fabric-integration fork, will not work. Some unofficial custom builds of Citizens are made to support these servers, but we cannot provide any support for them here.

• Higher forks above Spigot/Paper, such as Purpur, Airplane, etc. are compatible with Citizens only as much as they are compatible with Spigot/Paper. They are generally expected to work in most cases, but we cannot make any guarantees. We will still offer support to users running such forks, but be aware that if you encounter bugs while running such a fork, we may ask you to replicate them on Spigot/Paper to confirm they aren't caused by changes the fork made.

[acoustic fog]

can you help with indicating what Excalibur Aircraft is?

[stone turret]

It's a custom fork?

The owner of the server I work for made it.

[acoustic fog]

is it open source that we can see?

[stone turret]

No

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is it forge or spigot?

[stone turret]

Spigot

[acoustic fog]

good, uh

[stone turret]

It's not the forks problem.

[acoustic fog]

it may be, actually

this isn't a verifiable issue on spigot/paper

but obviously we can check other potential conflicts first

[stone turret]

The custom fork just manages data.

It is an Airplane fork

[acoustic fog]

PlugManX v2.3.0
make sure you're not using this; Citizens will not work when utilizing this, it uses a lot of reflection and cannot be reloaded - this isn't how Java functions
FastAsyncWorldEdit v2.4.10-SNAPSHOT-303;983e440
this verifiably causes problems because of how it loads

ViaVersion v4.4.2
what client version are you testing on?

[stone turret]

1.18.2

[acoustic fog]

you should be testing on your servers native version, currently 1.17.1

is there a reason you haven't updated

[stone turret]

The jar?

The guy who made it is pretty busy at the moment, he owns a dev team.

[acoustic fog]

your server is running 1.17.1 but you're intentionally running 1.18.2

[stone turret]

server is 1.17 jar, im playing on 1.18.2

not sure how a client would really affect it if it didnt work for somone on 1.17 aswell?

[acoustic fog]

because it's not the same

if your shoe size is 9, you can wear a shoe size 9.5 and it may not fit completely but you can still walk through the mall and shop - you may experience problems like the shoe sliding around and falling off on accident because it doesn't fit

at the end of the day, 9.5 is not 9

it's still a shoe either way

but it isn't the same

[stone turret]

I mean, one of the players was on 1.17, he had the same issue.

[acoustic fog]

1.17 or 1.17.1?

[stone turret]

1.17.1*

Alright, so I've tried this so far:

Removing TAB
Removing CitizensCMD
Re-Downloading Citizens Premium
Restarting Server Multiple Times

Still no fix.

[acoustic fog]

Citizens does not have a premium version, there is the Spigot version and the Jenkins version, which is just the most updated and active developmental version:

!latest Citizens

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Update Citizens

Latest Citizens dev builds are at https://ci.citizensnpcs.co/job/Citizens2/.
Spigot releases of Citizens are available at https://www.spigotmc.org/resources/citizens.13811/.

[stone turret]

Spigot

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!citizensfree

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Info: citizensfree

Citizens is free, as explained in the readme:

[stone turret]

i pretty sure I paid for citizens

Before citizens free was out

idek

[acoustic fog]

it's okay

does the issue persist when you create new NPCs?

eg;
/npc create Bob
/npc name?

[stone turret]

lol

doesnt seem to work

no console errors aswell

[acoustic fog]

generally not looking for console errors

[stone turret]

Not really sure where to go on from here..

[acoustic fog]

!pluginconflict

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+++ Info pluginconflict: https://wiki.citizensnpcs.co/Plugin_Conflict

[acoustic fog]

this is the first and best debugging solution; i can't replicate the issue at all on the latest Citizens and paper version

/npc name toggles the nameplate correctly

[stone turret]

Try on 1.17.1 airplane fork?

Supposedly, airplane should be supported.

[acoustic fog]

i'd recommend testing on paper first

you're not losing functionality if airplane is being maintained properly

[tulip root]

!forks

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Info: forks

Our plugins (Citizens, Sentinel, and Denizen) officially support both Spigot and Paper.
Any other forks of the Bukkit project are not supported, but may or may not work in practice.

• Lower forks, like CraftBukkit, do not function. You must upgrade to a higher fork (Spigot or Paper).

• Hard forks and cross-forks, like Cauldron/Magma/Mohist/Any other Forge-integration fork, or Cardboard/any other Fabric-integration fork, will not work. Some unofficial custom builds of Citizens are made to support these servers, but we cannot provide any support for them here.

• Higher forks above Spigot/Paper, such as Purpur, Airplane, etc. are compatible with Citizens only as much as they are compatible with Spigot/Paper. They are generally expected to work in most cases, but we cannot make any guarantees. We will still offer support to users running such forks, but be aware that if you encounter bugs while running such a fork, we may ask you to replicate them on Spigot/Paper to confirm they aren't caused by changes the fork made.

[tulip root]

- Higher forks above Spigot/Paper, such as Purpur, Airplane, etc. are compatible with Citizens only as much as they are compatible with Spigot/Paper.

[stone turret]

They are compatible with every single other plugin, not sure why Citizens doesnt work?

Ill ask Relo to take a look at it tmmr cus its 2 am for him

[tulip root]

You cannot assume that it works

You must test

try Citizens on a Paper server and see if the issues you have go away

if so, something's wrong with your fork

if not, something else is wrong

[stone turret]

Of course, but this happened ever since i downloded the newest Citizens update.

[acoustic fog]

re: #chatter
we need to explicitly be using paper; especially if this fork is closed source

closed source platforms cannot be supported because, for obvious reasons,

[stone turret]

Yeah

[acoustic fog]

we don't even know what it's doing

per your deleted message:

- I am running a 1.17.1 custom fork of Airplane (Closed Source) JAR.
this is not supported and we cannot help with this

you must use a supported version

there is especially no exception if the platform is closed sourced

[stone turret]

Alright, it seems you guys can't help me with my issue, and are more or less sending me in a wild goose chase.

Thanks, and goodbye

[acoustic fog]

we're more than happy to attempt helping you

you've already instantly left the discord, but i'll say what i'd like regardless of the fact incase you rejoin, or if anyone were to find this conversation

if you had an allergic reaction to my lasagna i've made, and i refuse to provide you the recipe - how can you indicate that you're actually allergic to it?

you don't know what i've put in it, and i won't tell you

you must understand it's ludicrous to expect anyone to know what you're allergic to exists in my lasagna

this problem is invalid and we can support anything verifiably evident

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Marked Invalid

Thread closed as invalid.

[tulip root]

^ the important thing to note that often gets misunderstood

When we say we can't support that fork

@stone turret

that means we the people in this discord cannot provide accurate help while you're on that

not that Citizens necessarily won't work

and the important thing is to test on Paper

so we can separate whether or not the issue relates to the fork or not

if you're unwilling to do basic testing towards resolving your own issue, then yeah your issue can't be resolved, but by your own choice

[stone turret]

It did indeed turn out to be an issue with the citizens jar, went back to an older version. Just wanted to let you know!
Thanks for the support.

[tulip root]

y-

[acoustic fog]

It did indeed turn out to be an issue with the citizens jar,
verifiably incorrect

[tulip root]

they left again

oh my god

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