I too, love the no-access channel
#Open Denizen Discussion Thread
shy patrol
graceful laurel
yeah like the default one
the one taught like everywhere
asdfjkl;
yeah that's the better one lmao
shy patrol
gotta pump up those numbers
astral charm
anyone knows i am trying mirror skin with citizens its not working
quartz wraith
!makepost
acoustic python
guys how to replace context.entity.passenger on denizen for 1.20, it worked on 1.19.2 but not on 1.20
soft pewter
guys how to replace context.entity.passenger on denizen for 1.20, it worked on 1...
!makepost
acoustic python
!makepost
well, I mean make post, this is some kind of joke, to create a whole post for the sake of one text replacement
soft pewter
It’s always better to make a post even for small things because it helps other users find it easily using the search bar and sometimes things that seem like little problems become big problems. it’s all explained in the embed
acoustic python
It’s always better to make a post even for small things because it helps other u...
well, right now, they will require a lot of information from me, etc.
gaunt marsh
tidal cave
😱
fleet kernel
WOO
grim quail
Why are we celebrating?
graceful laurel
Why are we celebrating?
fawe handled commands weirdly before, so if you tried to tab complete any command of any other plugin it’d not show up
unkempt torrent
@civic kelp added some api addtions to dPrevention for you.
https://docs.icecapa.de/tasks#dPrevention_api_change_flags
https://docs.icecapa.de/tasks#dPrevention_api_convert_claim_player
https://docs.icecapa.de/tasks#dPrevention_api_convert_claim_admin
https://docs.icecapa.de/informations#dPrevention Flag types
can grab latest dev from https://repo.icecapa.de/
I should add anchor tags to the repo page
civic kelp
Ooooooo. Will def check out.
old venture
finally getting back into denizen, just made a pyramid particle proc (i suck at taking screenshots)
unkempt torrent
Ooooooo. Will def check out.
let me know if you come up with any issues, so I can fix them
acoustic python
how to designate radius, let's designate spawn, from x:0 z:0 coordinates to x:100 z:100 coordinates?
icy dock
<@258789011135528970> added some api addtions to dPrevention for you.
<https://d...
wow it so great to have personal documentation. it might be helpfull when someone try to our creation
also...
icy dock
how to designate radius, let's designate spawn, from x:0 z:0 coordinates to x:10...
!makepost
celest spruce
really need me one of those fancy shmancy domains
unkempt torrent
@fleet kernel @limber berry added the features for Item Display Editor, https://docs.icecapa.de/informations#Item Display Editor Commands
https://github.com/Hydroxycobalamin/Denizen-Script-Collection/issues/7
I've tested a lot but please do also testing 
civic kelp
for some reason the <&sc> tag isn't working?
unkempt torrent
!t &sc
civic kelp
getting: Invalid tag base &sc (check !tag ... to find valid tags)
unkempt torrent
Isn't a valid tag then
civic kelp
expecting a semi colon
foggy ember
!l escaping
weary mothBOT
!l escaping
foggy ember
Note that these are NOT tag names. They are exclusively used by the escaping system.
civic kelp
hm. guess I was confused since the <&co> works
foggy ember
Thats just unrelatedly also a tag - not related to the escaping system directly, just the same name
civic kelp
how do I get a semicolon in my text then 😦
foggy ember
Well, just type a semicolon usually :p, no special tags needed - but also please make a post for questions
old venture
really liking denizen so far
im coming from Skript and its just a lot better in nearly every way
grim quail
Each language has their differences, some prefer that language, some prefer denizen.
lament verge
purely preference at this point
old venture
Yeah its a lot better for my use case
coming from someone who has 4-5 years in real-world programming languages, denizen has some featuresets that skript lacks that I've needed for a long time
unwritten rule of do not talk about skript can suck major ass because skript itself does 😎
idk for beginners i would recommend it
although idk the more i use denizen the more i like it
quartz wraith
unwritten rule of do not talk about skript can suck major ass because skript its...
So you have chosen death
grim quail
unwritten rule of do not talk about skript can suck major ass because skript its...
#1047958992120451103 message
sinful spindle
unwritten rule of do not talk about skript can suck major ass because skript its...
no
don't bait arguments
is skript a #politizen topic?
sinful spindle
oh hi mr x
tribal swallow
Hello!
cosmic tide
Skript is a great tool for beginners
O.o? I tried to use skript as a beginner and couldn't understand shit of that hellish syntax
rigid idol
cosmic tide
Lmao what a level up message
violet yacht
Hello there ! Is there a compatible version of Denizen to CraftBukkit 1.12.2 ?
cosmic tide
!makepost
acoustic python
here in general is it allowed to merge scripts of other projects or what?
quartz wraith
with appropriate credit and permission, yes. please make a post
acoustic python
they just merged the script without here, for which, as I see it, many people were reaching out before, and the merging happened without the permission of the owner
because as I see the posts still exist
Is there any way to get these posts removed?
cosmic tide
Is there any way to get these posts removed?
Which posts?
soft pewter
oh hi mr x
ELON MUSK??
cursive tide
because as I see the posts still exist
you could prolly just ask whoever made the post to remove it or ask them to credit your work.
foggy gorge
Is there any way to get these posts removed?
don't worry, we all already forgot it even exists
grim quail
~~is skript a <#949848599712370718> topic?~~
What topic/channel is this?
icy dock
What topic/channel is this?
here you go #actives-only message
grim quail
Oh you could of just said the politics channel lol.
leaden talon
how to make a npc fox sleep with denizen?
low night
!makepost
low night
go into the threads section and click on the blue button near the top rightr
unkempt thorn
is bot broken? i can't use /parsetag command
soft pewter
is bot broken? i can't use `/parsetag` command
yeah the bot is offline right now
it'll be back up soon though
teal delta
Hi
With the Denizen plugin, I can make it so that when a generator breaks, it has 4 hours to turn it back on; otherwise, it will be deleted.
low night
!makepost
low night
go into the threads section and click on the blue button near the top right
civic kelp
let me know if you come up with any issues, so I can fix them
I have some preliminary questions on dPrevention, should I ask them here or start a forum post?
unkempt torrent
make forum post
civic kelp
unrelated: did I see that the stable branch now supports 1.20?
severe hornet
meager egret
Guys. how to fix?
icy dock
Guys. how to fix?
!makepost
old venture
I like men
grim quail
What?
old venture
I like men
good for you i guess
Lol
I'm bored
Dead server testing how long it took for someone to reply
wild cosmos
far away from dead
old venture
@foggy ember denzin shit plugin
wild cosmos
you just dont see all the channels
old venture
you just dont see all the channels
Meh
rough lark
i guess nobody told her this is a support discord
@fossil steeple note 1059133497563951134 Woops did this from the wrong channel, ref #1027064108056580106 message
fossil steepleBOT
worn haven
One message removed from a suspended account.
low night
!makepost
quiet kayak
How do I actually learn denizen? Like i read the whole beginners guide but that still not enough.
old venture
start your own project
idk maybe something like a gun or magic, do the fun stuff first so you get into denizen pretty easily
always reading the meta docs to see if you're doing stuff correctly
low night
How do I actually learn denizen? Like i read the whole beginners guide but that ...
You can always make a thread if you get stumped on something
quiet kayak
You can always make a thread if you get stumped on something
Im not sure how to get coords of a block that player is looking at, could you explain?
grim quail
You could always make a thread if you get stumped on something
dusky dust
hey, just a simple question i was wondering how i could check if a location has flag A or flag B in one event line?
ie on player breaks block location_flagged:flag_a|flag_b:
low night
probably better to still make a post bout it
i like to use the search function in the threads and if other people have the same question they'll find it easy peasy
dusky dust
ie `on player breaks block location_flagged:flag_a|flag_b:`
though, i could use regex but eh
fleet kernel
hey, just a simple question i was wondering how i could check if a location has ...
tias
low night
!makepost
low night
lol
old venture
ie `on player breaks block location_flagged:flag_a|flag_b:`
location_flagged:flag_*
dusky dust
``location_flagged:flag_*``
i mentioned without regexes
old venture
thats not regex bro
dusky dust
all good, if i want more help ill make a post
old venture
thats a matcher
fleet kernel
ie `on player breaks block location_flagged:flag_a|flag_b:`
maybe you havent tried it yet idk
old venture
regex is the (^{]> fuckery
low radish
incorrect
Denizen Advanced Matchables are not regexes
to use regex in Denizen you generally need to use the regex: prefix
also,
@fossil steeple warn @dusky dust serious Repeated behavior of asking support questions outside of the appropriate channels despite very much knowing better
fossil steepleBOT
sinful spindle
uh no, im pretty sure those are regexes
Regex is a proper noun
it does not refer to any dynamic matching system
gusty wren
my life will be complete once the guide is finished ❤️
if i knew how to code well enough in denizen i would contribute but am noob
graceful laurel
I’ve been meaning to get a start on the sub mapping page
dusky dust
bruh i updated to the latest version of denizen and my quaternions are fucked
might have to make a post
bruh im an idiot 🤦
cosmic tide
I agree to all of the above
pastel field
rekt
foggy gorge
my life will be complete once the guide is finished ❤️
all the best denizzle legends grew up without the guide ;;;)
old venture
the funny thing is, most of us know what those guide sections are, how they work and how to use them, but nobody seems to know How to explain it xD
soft pewter
foggy gorge
i can improv shittons of metaphors and examples of a lot of all denizen scripty stuff, lasagna is my specialty
but it isn't the kind of quality made for a guide page often lol
old venture
lmao
foggy gorge
ive drafted a few pages now and theyve been drafted for so long
old venture
imagine you go all serious trying to learn denizen and all you see are lasagna metaphors
old venture
ive drafted a few pages now and theyve been drafted for so long <:SCgrin:8123192...
post them in #guide-writing so we all have a base to work on :P
foggy gorge
The Denizen Cookbook - Italian cuisine edition
monkey would ream me if i hosted a mockup of the guide rewritten completely in lasagna as opposed to seriously contributing
old venture
thats a project that should DEFINITELY be done - just after the normal guide has been finished xD
quartz wraith
i can improv shittons of metaphors and examples of a lot of all denizen scripty ...
make a joke recipe guide which just explains the entirety of denizen but in lasagna
cursive tide
imagine you go all serious trying to learn denizen and all you see are lasagna m...
That's how i used to search for dumbed down explanations. Make a search for my question and add lasagna to the end.
grim quail
my life will be complete once the guide is finished ❤️
Are you saying this because you need to learn this, or because you want other people to learn it?
grim quail
all the best denizzle legends grew up without the guide ;;;)
I'm like 50% sure I actually either tried to watch the old yt videos, or read a little of the guide and just winged it. I got a pretty good grasp on it nowadays but I'm still not sure if I even looked at the guide properly back then lol.
gusty wren
Are you saying this because you need to learn this, or because you want other pe...
both
grim quail
A fair amount of those can be learned by asking.
gusty wren
im bout to make a post rn LOL
graceful laurel
pog
gusty wren
dude if only copilot was trained on some denizen code... that would be the most legendary thing ever
https://openai.com/blog/gpt-3-5-turbo-fine-tuning-and-api-updates it might be possible now
low night
Pretty sure someone already had text ai on servers in showcase
sinful spindle
the funny thing is, most of us know what those guide sections are, how they work...
Helpers are just the people who don't know how the least
mossy egret
the funny thing is, most of us know what those guide sections are, how they work...
Imo if you can’t explain it to a beginner you haven’t fully understood it
old venture
yeah thats the difference between understanding and having mastered it
grim cliff
How to get all the matches/specified blocks to a certain cuboid or area
fleet kernel
How to get all the `matches/specified blocks` to a certain `cuboid` or area
!makepost
flat marsh
Guys, is there a section on this server for publishing your scripts? I would be happy to share a couple of simple and interesting works with beginners so that they can learn Denizen from them.
low night
yeah, #showcase is perfect for that
usually people post screenshots or videos of it
as well
flat marsh
oh, thanks = )))
weary mothBOT
!t player.is_op
unkempt torrent
@spring dew probably simpler to exclude the commands a player shouldn't see than have to add all commands that a user should see
should create a thread in #1026104994149171200 for ya scripty script to review
if you'd like to
spring dew
Well:
I have done it like this because:
49 Plugins
Worldedit
Essentials
Thats a lot of commands to block
so the commands to add are way better.
unkempt torrent
ye should be #1026104994149171200 thread imo
low night
probably
i think if it's a denizen related issue it should be denizen and if its just an issue with the showcased item it can be a showcase thread or smthn like that
unkempt torrent
no idea ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I mean inital issue can be fixed by proper registration of commands on related plugins / and permission handling
grim quail
Yep.
I have a command system myself that does similar.
I got tired of worldedit/whatever plugin showing me commands that I don't have permissions for.
So now I have a lengthy data script that dictates what group should have what command access to. If it's not in any of these, then you can't run it and it doesn't show up in the suggestions.
sinful spindle
I got tired of worldedit/whatever plugin showing me commands that I don't have p...
Doesn't worldedit just like reinvent their own command registration system? I remember having issues with that in the past
grim quail
I think so, monkey or someone brought it up how it's basically registered on the fly and how it's not properly registered or something.
Either way I still do this because I block all commands that aren't in said whitelist, and/or are in my special data script that allows sneaky commands to not show up in auto tab but still runs.
foggy gorge
you guys mean FAWE by chance? :0
hallow scaffold
wrong narrate in meta
low radish
oop
low night
I remember something else like that too but I couldn't remember what it is
grim quail
you guys mean FAWE by chance? :0
No. Just WE/WG.
stray pulsar
does denizen have to put everything it does into the console?
stray pulsar
ok sry i didnt do post
foggy ember
We can help/explain, should make a post though ^
unkempt torrent
text displays are cool
unkempt torrent
it worki good, imma post on forum later
scarlet gazelle
Can I use the non-plugin-support for an error I get that I think might not be citizen or denizen related?
old venture
welcome to the plugin that will forever stain your perspective of minecraft
whenever comes a new update, i never think of "whats new?" i think of "what new stuff can i make?"
soft pewter
🥳
foggy gorge
just now noticing this lmao
soft pewter
Mcmonkey is always one step ahead
low night
seems nice for also telling u the definitions
mossy egret
Would be nicer if there was go to definition
icy dock
would be nice too if we can put more docs like official denizen meta docs because i've been write entire procedure script like this
low night
does that commented code show it correctly?
icy dock
unfortunately, no :(
sinful spindle
why would you use that wildly specific format if you didn't expect it to work
low night
wishful thinking
icy dock
i've been work on my project almost this year. whenever i go back to work on this feature, sometime... i forgot any procedure script i've been made when i wanna use it on other script
also. my friend help me on this project, but he is new on denizen. it was usefull for him
soft pewter
i've been work on my project almost this year. whenever i go back to work on thi...
There is a description key that’s relatively new that lets you have the description when you hover over something like a task or procedure
#changelog message
low night
where was that weeks ago i need to put that on everything i make
icy dock
yooo, that insane
icy dock
why would you use that wildly specific format if you didn't expect it to work
funny thing(imo) why i do that because i follow how icecapade make their docs and implement it on their own web meta docs https://docs.icecapa.de/
i feel that is awesome
icy dock
There is a `description` key that’s relatively new that lets you have the descri...
well... i think i should move it all asap cause this is really helpfull for my friend!. thanks for tell me that ✨
soft pewter
you're welcome! it's also really great because you can add docs to definitions as well which is neat too
icy dock
by the way, is there any docs to see how many markdown text could i use like discord have ?
this is what i've been tried with markdown
icy dock
hooo, i got it! https://commonmark.org/help/
@soft pewter is there a way to remove the dots (that i mark with red color) to let me put the code stuff?
this is how it look that i've been writed on
soft pewter
<@529840251829485578> is there a way to remove the dots (that i mark with red co...
not that i know of :/ mcmonkey might have to change the code that does it
if you want you can make a feature thread for it
icy dock
if you want you can make a feature thread for it
alright, imma create a thread for it
zinc lintel
welcome to the plugin that will forever stain your perspective of minecraft
Thank you! I can't believe so much is possible with Denizen aaaaaa, what a masterpiece * - *
low radish
yooo, that insane
also definitions: text [This def needs to be whatever] | second_def [More Description here]
icy dock
also `definitions: text [This def needs to be whatever] | second_def [More Descr...
wow, you more step ahead from us
mossy egret
also `definitions: text [This def needs to be whatever] | second_def [More Descr...
Can you split it across multiple lines
low night
Can you split it across multiple lines
the description?
oops i didnt mean to reply that lol
mossy egret
That and the definitions
low radish
iirc you can - them yes
low night
unkempt torrent
I‘m working on it
spring dew
I think its just armorstands?
With a display name?
icy dock
I think its just armorstands?
With a display name?
broo.... 💀
he already mentioned what it was
spring dew
did he?
dusk pelican
i got a bit carried away while making a small item for my players to change the world's weather to thundering so i ended up with this sorta mess, imo it looks pretty cool(pardon me if the footage is a bit low in quality, my laptop is a literal potato 🙏 )
dusk pelican
i thought that i might well add some small details to polish it out since i was already so far off my initial track lol, glad that u liked it
icy dock
i got a bit carried away while making a small item for my players to change the ...
lit 🔥
old venture
i got a bit carried away while making a small item for my players to change the ...
WOAH how'd you do these little particle guys?
foggy gorge
they look like redstone_dust - but, id love to know how you did the lightning paths regardless 
old venture
yeyeah thats what i meant!
foggy gorge
that needs combod with the lightning clips i had
ima post them again for others to be inspired >:[]
foggy gorge
WOAH how'd you do these little particle guys?
yaaas give us the formuolie
icy dock
let him cook
old venture
da formuolie
foggy gorge
ima post them again for others to be inspired >:[]
( while we wait )
dusk pelican
for the little white particles, i just used a bunch of cloud particles with data value of 0.7. for the lightning arcs, i might well just post the script since im not the best at explaining things lol
- repeat 40:
- define destination <[high_loc].random_offset[40]>
- define arc <[high_loc].points_between[<[destination]>].distance[5]>
- foreach <[arc]> as:current_point:
- if <[loop_index]> == <[arc].size>:
- foreach stop
- define next_index <[loop_index].add[1]>
- define next_point <[arc].get[<[next_index]>].random_offset[3]>
- define arc[<[next_index]>]:<[next_point]>
- playeffect at:<[current_point].points_between[<[next_point]>].distance[0.2]> effect:dust_color_transition special_data:2|<[color_list].random>|<[color_list].random> offset:0 quantity:1 visibility:100
(high_loc is just the location def for the original on air explosion)
foggy gorge
ngl if it were just a random offset to points_between i'd of probably accidentally made a vector with a random yaw and pitch to shoot from, that both makes sense and is neat
old venture
yeah doing vectors with random yaw and pitch was always my first thought but they were always too random
dusk pelican
ngl if it were just a random offset to points_between i'd of probably accidental...
ooo, ive never thought of that, it does sound simpler tho
foggy gorge
no your option skips a huge step 
dusk pelican
i have a terrible habit of preoptimizing my things which have come back to bite me several times, im just thankful that it went fine as ive always thought that the peeps over here have done similar things but with like a 1000% more efficiency with some sort of sorcery that im completely oblivious to 😭
foggy gorge
i write my code very basic, over-defined, and excessively poorly optimized until it works awesome, then i go back and modernize, tweak, and fix the bad codes after
its a thrill to get to grill someone to the max about how bad code is, it's a fun game i play against myself
graceful laurel
as long as you have a working base to go off of, and understand why stuff is working the way it is, you can optimize and clean up easily
dusk pelican
i write my code very basic, over-defined, and excessively poorly optimized until...
my past code still haunts me to this very day
cursive tide
my past code still haunts me to this very day
I can't go back and look at old code. I would have to redo it all.
sinful spindle
me @ code i wrote last night
soft pewter
lol
quartz wraith
me looking at code I wrote 10 minutes ago
low night
"god damn who made this mess"
quartz wraith
sometimes I leave comments after I write something awful that just say something along the lines of “shits fucked, move on”
low night
todo: fix this later and stop being lazy lol
soft pewter
todo: what
most of the time my todo comments are todo: fix this with no more context so future breadcrumb struggles to know what needs fixing but it saves present breadcrumb a few precious seconds
low night
i always make sure to be ultra descriptive when a sitation like that might happen lol
like the fix i thought of at the time
grim quail
I have 140+ Todo lines
sinful spindle
i have 0 because organization is a myth
the amount of todo lines i have is coincidentily the same amount of total comments i have
grim quail
It's more of I'm on the middle of one script and have to look at another, and I write a Todo to fix or change it and never do
Or something is hacky and I tell myself to do it better
And leads to it being a !itworks
old venture
the amount of todo lines i have is coincidentily the same amount of total commen...
ah, another never commenter. we're brothers
pastel field
i got a bit carried away while making a small item for my players to change the ...
The lightning looks great, random offset is a great idea, also is that a Yuuma pfp lmao
dusk pelican
The lightning looks great, random offset is a great idea, also is that a Yuuma p...
u r the first person to ever point out my pfp lol, im joyous to see a fellow touhou fan around here 🙏
fleet kernel
i have 0 because organization is a myth
real
once somethings done fuck it
im done
future me can figure out whatevee the fuck i weote
dusk pelican
future me can figure out whatevee the fuck i weote
so true, ive practically lost count of the number of hours ive spent trying to understand my old code for "modernizing" them like its literally a part of my life now 😭
fleet kernel
so true, ive practically lost count of the number of hours ive spent trying to u...
just rewrite it atp it would be wayy easier ☺️
dusk pelican
i wish i wasnt so lazy so id be able to make myself do that voluntarily lol. i was messing around with my particle lib and quaternions until i got this thing, looks p cool imo
pastel field
just rewrite it atp it would be wayy easier ☺️
I have a boss I’ve rewritten like 4 times now, it’s a huge pain
soft pewter
bill! bill! bill! bill! bill! bill nye the science guy!
old venture
i wish i wasnt so lazy so id be able to make myself do that voluntarily lol. i w...
YO. what the fuck how long have you been coding in denizen?
dusk pelican
YO. what the fuck how long have you been coding in denizen?
just a little over 2 years, im still finding new things everyday because of how comprehensive the meta is lol. my particle lib i used to get what was shown in the clip is fairly simple, i wouldnt mind sharing it if needed but i barely comment on my code so its a bit messy 😅
celest spruce
i wish i wasnt so lazy so id be able to make myself do that voluntarily lol. i w...
GOD DAMN
@fleet kernel yuo might like this
dusk pelican
the lib uses procedural scripts that essentially act as functions for graphing live so im p sure the sky(or maybe the server's hardware lol)'s the limit. same thing goes for rotating stuff with quaternions
celest spruce
freakin awesome
dusk pelican
i first came up with the idea to code such a thing when i was taking a dump a few weeks back on a lazy morning 😭
old venture
the lib uses procedural scripts that essentially act as functions for graphing l...
wait, you can rotate locations by a quaternion?
wuuut
dusk pelican
wait, you can rotate locations by a quaternion?
yea, the math has to be done semi manually tho
its a bit messy but denizen has some really cool tags that simplify the process a lot
dusky dust
i just started using interaction entities and man they make life easier
low night
i thought those werent gonna be as useful as the other new ents but they've got some pretty interesting uses
pastel field
I wish they could detect projectiles but otherwise they’re rad
low night
Same
dusky dust
I wish they could detect projectiles but otherwise they’re rad
technically for me they can
i just use ray_trace anyways
celest spruce
i thought those werent gonna be as useful as the other new ents but they've got ...
im curious to see some of the uses
dusky dust
hey
question about dmodels; so does it support any generic entitiy regardless of its rotations, etc?
old venture
yo how should a high quality script verification post look like again
wanna do it for my inventory item distributor
fleet kernel
yo how should a high quality script verification post look like again
ask da mokey
pastel field
question about dmodels; so does it support any generic entitiy regardless of its...
you mean does it support arbitary rotations, like non-45 degree angles?
or what
also probably make a thread lol
dusky dust
Hey, so Ricky and I have been trying to solve these rotation issues with dmodels, and I was wondering if I could ping Mcmonkey, since he’s the creator of this “verified high quality” script
quartz wraith
Hey, so Ricky and I have been trying to solve these rotation issues with dmodels...
yeah that’d probably be fine do it in a thread tho
dusky dust
I’d like confirmation from a helper
foggy gorge
I’d like confirmation from a helper
Generally only ping somebody if your message is very specifically directed at them
that's the part you need tbh, if it's his script, you're free to @ him about it
if it's a generic script question though it's best to ask everyone
dusky dust
great, ty
old venture
dynamic pyramid proc, with customizable size, height, bottom shape (if it's a square, a triangle, a hexagon or whatever) and density
yay or nay?
raven barnBOT
+> YAY!!!
steep wind
yay
raven barnBOT
+> YAY!!!
steep wind
Now showcase it
severe hill
Yay
raven barnBOT
+> YAY!!!
graceful laurel
yay
raven barnBOT
+> YAY!!!
old venture
Now showcase it
i think its far too simple for showcase xD but sure, will in a couple hours when im back home
steep wind
People might have use for it
spring dew
Yay
raven barnBOT
+> YAY!!!
rough lark
didn't someone here write a proc for catmull-rom splines? for smoothing out camera movements between locations. i am really interested in something like that
rough lark
awwwww yeah, thank you !
grim quail
Let's thank Mergu for providing better teleportation with relative arguments, because I need to use this since translation doesn't work for me.
hardy quarry
if I made a thread a long time ago and it hasn't gotten a reply, is it fine for me to bump it up again or are there any rules I missed about it?
I don't wish to create clutter by making a new thread on the same topic but I'm still wondering about that matter and haven't been able to find a solution as of yet
old venture
if I made a thread a long time ago and it hasn't gotten a reply, is it fine for ...
ye its fine
when bumping always try to give additional info to help us help you
hardy quarry
ye its fine
fair thing, thanks :D
sadly in this case idk what else to provide, but I'll keep it in mind for later cases
undone fractal
HELP
undone fractal
!makepost
Sorry, but I speak Spanish and when I translated it I didn't understand it well, how do I ask for help from the Dinizen plugin?
old venture
Sorry, but I speak Spanish and when I translated it I didn't understand it well,...
make your own forum post by going here
undone fractal
make your own forum post by going here
Tanks
tidal cave
Is the internal_data in the lates build? or do i need to wait
im so hyped to test it out
player internal data can be changed too right :D
tidal cave
um idk how this work :(
foggy gorge
Is the internal_data in the lates build? or do i need to wait
you can download it now per #commit-log ^, and a thread the next time :D
unkempt torrent
click the link
tidal cave
ahh ok
foggy gorge
sometimes when im too tired to even think about seeing jenkin's white background, i'll just backlog that channel until i find the latest versions
because sometimes it feels like the responsible thing not abusing an auto-updater
tidal cave
oh so it is already on the lates dev build? b6881
tidal cave
Is the internal_data in the lates build? or do i need to wait
i misstyped dev build
pastel field
it hasn't updated yet/isn't on main I assume
you can look at the actual commit on github to see how to use it
tidal cave
is this the right version?
unkempt torrent
!makepost
foggy ember
There is no doc on internal_data
!reload
foggy gorge
:0
weary mothBOT
!m EntityTag.internal_data
foggy ember
Don't know what are you talking about, the meta is right there
pastel field
lol
foggy gorge
i havent actually committed to a full minigame script lately so im trying out a favorite i've already done on the 2d plane
3d minesweeper here we gooo
soft pewter
oooo
dusky dust
what if there was like a mech that would remove a display entity when the animation is complete?
i wonder if that'd be a reasonable feature request
sinful spindle
you know what to do
soft pewter
You can always make it one using /featurerequest and wait for responses to see of it’s doable or not
fleet kernel
i havent actually committed to a full minigame script lately so im trying out a ...
drop the script after 🙏
pastel field
i mean can't you just...
remove the display entity after it's complete
old venture
yea, the math has to be done semi manually tho
coming back to this, how'd you do it? i'm finally interested on getting into quaternions and this seems fun lmao
pastel field
Rotating locations by a quaternion?
it's actually not THAT bad
the process is super similar to the rotate_around tags
use uh, transform tag for quaternions
<QuaternionTag.transform[<vector>]>
I transform a vector here from the base of the eye to the top of the eye here by the same quaternion I'm using to rotate the eye display entity around
all you need is transform
Tip though, the y axis is flipped as it is for a lot of stuff in Denizen (Minecraft?), you'll need to invert the resulting vectors y axis
so like
- define rotatedVector <[yourQuaternion].transform[<[topVector]>]>
- define rotatedVector <[rotatedVector].with_y[<[rotatedVector].y.mul[-1]>]>```oo damn, thats really convenient
i just used quaternion multiplication to rotate my things which is a tad bit messier than that
pastel field
ye
haha
I was searching for an easier way to do it and I saw it was there in the docs
Wasn't 100% what it did so I looked at the code in github
Hope that helps you
dusk pelican
i did see that tag but i thought it was used to change the vector's magnitude or something along the line so i ignored it 😭
pastel field
same lmao
dusk pelican
the doc is quite literally full of buried treasure
pastel field
QuaternionTags are fantastic, just not fully explored or understood yet
it's exciting
dusk pelican
fr
old venture
guys i just had an amazing (horrible and painful) idea
following this: #showcase message
what if i did all of THIS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_uniform_polyhedra#Table_of_polyhedra
low radish
change your name to nimsy, post some youtube videos about it
old venture
wait did he do this already
oh no he only made the dodecahedron
surprisingly non threatening code
quartz wraith
what if i did all of THIS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_uniform_polyhed...
foot. Ball
old venture
i got to work on the truncated cube first bc it looked fun and after an hourish or so im halfway through it
because i figured out all of wikipedia's description and math are completely useless, at least for the truncated cube
old venture
but i imagine it'll be very necessary for smth like this
old venture
foot. Ball
soc. Cer
jade pebble
A small question of design, cause i'm interested if there is a go to way of doing this.
Following case is given:
(Do you use one of the two ways or a completely different one?)
# Add a number to a flag that may not exist already
#- 1
- define <[value]>
- if !<server.has_flag[flagName]>:
- flag server flagName:<[value]>
- else:
- flag server flagName:+:<[value]>
#- 2
- define <[value]>
- define newValue <server.flag[flagName].add[<[value]>].if_null[<[value]>]>
- flag server flagName:<[newValue]>
#- 3
#- ?
When using lists or maps this is a lot simpler, avoiding the "null" case entirely, but sometimes you just want to increment a value by x.
spring dew
A small question of design, cause i'm interested if there is a go to way of doin...
I use the first way.
but it depends on what you are trying to do.
mossy egret
A small question of design, cause i'm interested if there is a go to way of doin...
you can just flag server flagname:+:<[value]> and it'll set it automatically if the flag doesnte xist
quartz wraith
holy shit what
mossy egret
oh
its pretty nice (sometimes it can lead to problems though for example if you make a typo)
jade pebble
You can? So it assumes 0 if the flag doesn’t exist already? That’s convenient ^^
Thanks
And I will next time 🫡, thought as a sort of discussion it would belong here
unkempt torrent
!makepost
old venture
truncated cube time
you can dictate how truncated it is
angle set to 45 = 0 truncated
angle set to 0 = full truncated
this also doubles as a prism generator lmfao
soft pewter
Wooah looks great
somber sail
how do i make it so that if a key is press something happens?
graceful laurel
how do i make it so that if a key is press something happens?
!channel
somber sail
!makepost how do i make it so that if a key is press something happens?
!maketheard how do i make it so that if a key is press something happens?
soft pewter
you need to click the big blue button
somber sail
I got it thanks
somber sail
could someone look at my post?
unkempt torrent
patience please, no need to ask here
somber sail
ok
dusky dust
yo @sinful spindle so this is what i ended up doing (the red outline means it has the wrong world, the green has the right one)
severe hill
Man that's cool af
dusky dust
yo
i found a bug for the flags arg for the schematic command, but i dont have time to make a post and a mcve and i dont wanna forget about it so what do i do lol
foggy ember
i found a bug for the `flags` arg for the schematic command, but i dont have tim...
Write it down or something and make a post when you have time
We can't really fix a bug without information about it lol
dusky dust
i found a bug for the `flags` arg for the schematic command, but i dont have tim...
ohhh i think i figured out why it happens
imma make a post
low night
Nice
dusky dust
ive been pasting a lot of massive schematics with flag data in the locations, and a lot of the time, not all the flag data would be transferred correctly
then i realized, it actually had to do with my denizen config
i set the amount of whiles before it stops to infinite and the amount of blocks it can read to like 1 billion lol
pastel field
lmfao nice
dusky dust
(figuring this out may or may not have taken me the entire day)
i did the weirdest shti you don't even know 😂
old venture
well then i hope you cover it in your video because now im curious about it
grim quail
And here I was thinking that I turned off worldborder damage, but instead my custom coded land claims had invulnerability turned on for players in admin claims.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
grim quail
Oh yeah, that's what I call a psuedo status effects. I use it for virtually anything that I want a timer visualized for the player for. PvP combat, grace/spawn protection, some special custom effects that I forgot.
Boss bars are nice for this.
dusky dust
yo OH MY GOD
i just got like a genius idea
i was like "what if you could spectate display entities"
then i realized
"what if you animated a display entity's translation while a player was spectating it"
i wonder if it'll be smooth camera movement
old venture
inb4 it doesnt work
dusky dust
yo @pastel field
about your eye thing not rotating correctly, i think i might know what the issue is
you have to make sure to spawn the entity in with a certain pitch
most likely pitch[0], otherwise if it doesn't work, try messing with different pitches
dusky dust
I made sure to 0,0 the pose
no no
i think there's an issue
spawning the display entity for example at the player's location will always use the player's yaw and pitch directly
i dont think it even cares about the input for the yaw/pitch
is there a thread on this somewhere already or should i just make a new post on it?
pastel field
Well, I’m not spawning it using the player so there’s no attached player
The task that spawns and controls the eye isn’t triggered by the player
dusky dust
oh yea @pastel field
after you spawn it in, make sure to do a - look <[display_entity]> pitch:0
dusky dust
ok we should make a post next time we talk about this lol
unless there's one that exists that im unaware of
old venture
has there been any ideas on replacing denizen's syntax yet
at least for variables/tags/whatever you call them
graceful laurel
has there been any ideas on replacing denizen's syntax yet
why
its perfectly fine right now imo
old venture
because the variables/tags are the ugliest thing i've ever seen
graceful laurel
how so
mossy egret
im not a big fan of the syntax but imo its fine as is
also if you replace denizen's syntax that is a major breaking change
imagine all your scripts just not working
grim quail
You get use to it.
dusk pelican
it certainly takes a bit of time to get used to the syntax but u can truly fall in love with its flexibility and readability while working with simple ones on a regular basis or even crazily long ones. i dont think itd be at all easy to make it cleaner than it already is at it current state imo
mossy egret
still waiting for whitespace in tags though
old venture
idk maybe $var
old venture
still waiting for whitespace in tags though
yeah whitespace would help a lot with readability
graceful laurel
idk maybe $var
i'd personally say that'd decrease readability and wouldn't really look visually as pleasing
cosmic tide
still waiting for whitespace in tags though
Its there one already?
Some weird tag like <qr> or sum
mossy egret
i mean like
- do something <tag
.subtag1[asdf]
.subtag2[asdf]>
``` for examplegood thing about definitions using <[]> is that its really easy to know where it starts and where it ends
dawn flower
i mean like
```yml
- do something <tag
.subtag1[asdf]
...
but like why
mossy egret
personally i prefer c-style syntax but i wont let the syntax of a language affect me that much
old venture
ye
mossy egret
but like why
for larger tags
old venture
me likie monster tags but thats also already "fixed" by procs
dawn flower
I usually just build them up instead of having one huge tag
old venture
its definitely a personal preference thing
mossy egret
- adjust def:x lore:<[message]
.trim
.replace_text[asdf].with[xyz]
.split[<n>]>
something like this for example
mossy egret
just a qol thing, not that important tho
dawn flower
I just do this so i don't end up with humongous tags like that
- define message <element[your message].trim>
- define message <[message].replace_text[a].with[b]>
- adjust def:x lore:<[message].split[<n>]>```thats inconvenient
mossy egret
maybe its just that all denizen commands are currently constrained to a single line
dawn flower
Either way me likey the syntax
it's definitely better than the braced ifs thingy we had a few years ago
mossy egret
i think braces are nice, they were just done badly
mossy egret
maybe its just because im not a big fan of indentation based languages in general
foggy gorge
i honestly would like if braces came back, it was very useful for myself to understand the blocks because i dont like more than two-space scripts
that or if i could have in-line multi commands like
- if <[something]> { - repeat 5 { - narrate nice } } lol
but i think it's more simple for the majority if they don't exist, since it's just a colon to make the whole block just work
sinful spindle
has there been any ideas on replacing denizen's syntax yet
uhh
I don't know if this was meant as like a rhetorical question
but no, of course there are no plans to completely change denizen's syntax
foggy gorge
syntax changes with growth anyways
as it has over the years - especially 2019 and the flag rewrite, fack
sinful spindle
i quite like denizen's tag system personally
sinful spindle
i mean like
```yml
- do something <tag
.subtag1[asdf]
...
use define
- define tag <tag>
- define tag <[tag].subtag1>
- define tag <[tag].subtag[2]>
- do something <[tag]>
That’s inconvenient
It might be just a few more keystrokes but it adds up so much over time
low radish
```yml
- adjust def:x lore:<[message]
.trim
...
^ this is godawful
if you make the tags 10x longer then maybe it makes sense to split
but also if it's so long you need to split it you're probably doing something a bit weird
steep wind
```yml
- adjust def:x lore:<[message]
.trim
...
Gonna have to agree with this one there are many times tags get long
foggy ember
Personally with something so short I'd just do - adjust def:x lore:<[message].trim.replace_text[asdf].with[xyz].split[<n>]>, but it does make sense for longer stuff
mossy egret
Yeah perhaps with longer things like filter and parse
sinful spindle
idk maybe i've just used denizen too long but it's perfectly readable to me
mossy egret
I did use quite a short tag tbf
low night
I only adjust definitions in my procedural inventory scripts
mossy egret
My idea of denizen is very different from most other peoples idea of denizen so my suggestions can get wild
steep wind
<map.with[pack].as[<map[pack_format=<[packversion]>;description=dModels_AutoPack_Default]>].to_json[native_types=true;indent=<[pack_indent]>].utf8_encode>
<map
.with[pack]
.as[<map[pack_format=<[packversion]>;description=dModels_AutoPack_Default]>]
.to_json[native_types=true;indent=<[pack_indent]>]
.utf8_encode>
Like that or sumthin
mossy egret
Map literal when
<{a = 1, b = 2}.tag_a> or smth
(/j)
You kinda get that with definemap
mossy egret
?
sinful spindle
<map[a=1;b=2].tag_1>
mossy egret
The difference is that the literal will parse things before evaluating the tags
sinful spindle
wut
wild cosmos
since we are talking about wild suggestions I was thinking about determine with comparisons which could be useful for procedures like:
- determine <[somevalue]> > <[othervalue]> and <[someboolean]>
sinful spindle
if you put a tag in the constructer, it'll parse?
mossy egret
Nvm ignore what I said
steep wind
```
<map.with[pack].as[<map[pack_format=<[packversion]>;description=dModels_Auto...
That's not the point here I'm talking about splitting the tags like you said
mossy egret
Yeah
steep wind
No shit you can use definemap lol
foggy ember
```
<map.with[pack].as[<map[pack_format=<[packversion]>;description=dModels_Auto...
^ yeah that's the sort of cases where splitting tags up would be useful imo
mossy egret
wut
Well to elaborate on it, it’ll parse the string without evaluating the tags, so that this is prevented
But anyways ima go to bed
sinful spindle
i feel like maybe you don't understand what he was saying
imagine if <[parse_value]> held the value hi;hello
you've now made it <map[base=hi;hello]> which is invalid
(since the latter has no value to it's key)
mossy egret
No that’s exactly what I mean
Because the tag is parsed before the whole thing, that’s invalid
But if it passes the string first, it’ll see that it has a key of “base” and a value of “<[parse_value]>”
sinful spindle
you can just escape it if you want that lol
this isn't a systemic problem
and 98.9% of the time, people would want tags to parse outward, as they do everywhere else
quartz wraith
i feel ljke you should be able to use procs like <object.[procedure_name]> instead of <object.proc[procedure_name]>
low night
would sound nice but i assume it'd need to check for that every time?
quartz wraith
i don’t know and i don’t care
tidal cave
is it possible (i know its unlikely) that denizen gets released for minecraft bedrock Edition like nukkit? im starting to switch to bedrock edition because of the creator support regarding resource packs and addons
for some of you this might sound silly "lol hes playing on bedrock" but its actually better in some aspects
it feels smoother, i never need to use any unintended features, because there is support for nearly all of them: custom menus, animation, particle, blocks
the list goes on
fleet kernel
is it possible (i know its unlikely) that denizen gets released for minecraft be...
would that not require a full rewrite of denizen for bedrock essentially
low night
bedrock stuff makes them money so they definitely aint gonna cheap out on the resources they give lol
sinful spindle
yeah this would be a complete rewrite
old venture
is it possible (i know its unlikely) that denizen gets released for minecraft be...
lol hes playing bedrock
wild cosmos
i feel ljke you should be able to use procs like <object.[procedure_name]> inste...
wouldnt it be messy since definitions have the same syntax?
<[definition].[procedure]>
quartz wraith
yes but that’s the point
severe hill
lol hes playing bedrock
Haha bedrock
quartz wraith
yeah this would be a complete rewrite
imma be for real it absolutely would not be worth the time and effort to port it
mossy egret
yes but that’s the point
i think the natural verbosity of procs steer me away from it for quick stuff
for example, compare:
function doSomething(x) {
return x + 1;
}
doSomething(3);
do_something:
type: procedure
definitions: x
script:
- determine <[x].add[1]>
# ...
<proc[do_something].context[3]>
im at the point of my 3d minesweeper minigame where i actually need to test what i wrote; im considering the idea of making 3d sudoku as well
do y'all think i should target #1026104994149171200 or #1027976885520584814 about discussing the logic? im kind of confusing myself on the generation process
generation process as in calculating a 2D board to start of course
mmm i think im going to start in #1027976885520584814 , i probably dont need help with the tags so much as thinking about how to fill the board
foggy gorge
an update on the silence actually, two of these kids here at the school want to help make it so we're just going to blow this study hall making it together lol ill come back around with results
old venture
lmfao
old venture
generation process as in calculating a 2D board to start of course
would be ez to do in denizen
foggy gorge
yeah, we figured out how to make the board easily but now figuring out how to scale difficulty annd making sure it's possible to finish haha
their internets blocked but one actually is considering denizen now 
told them where to find it if they really want
old venture
their internets blocked but one actually is considering denizen now <:SCWsunglas...
kek imagine they join the discord and find you
foggy gorge
my user is already fairly close to my real name and if anyonee refers to "behr" itll probably just click
yooo this school has an esports after school program
hmmm only madden, rocket league, smash bros, and mario kart
time to get them to add minecraft with a spice of denizen to the list~~
old venture
<:kekw_dog:847143006023974933> my user is already fairly close to my real name a...
lmao i'll just be waiting for the eventual "hey teacher" new user
foggy gorge
oh my god, so, i thought it was funny that they realized we only had a little under two hours this period, they had to go to their next class and one was bummed we didn't finish - we'll totally see him later i bet lol
but guess who forgot whose tablet we were even working on
HE TOOK MY SCRIPT 
sinful spindle
proc:
type: procedure
script:
- determine <[1].add[1]>
- narrate <proc[proc].context[3]>
err
chat history didn't load lol
sinful spindle
i think the natural verbosity of procs steer me away from it for quick stuff
for...
last thing i saw was the top code block here lol
i now feel somewhat silly
sinful spindle
i think the natural verbosity of procs steer me away from it for quick stuff
for...
by the way, try typing procedure into your vscode on a new line and hit tab :)
mossy egret
yeah, but its also a bit hard to read and navigate especially when you have a shit ton of procs/scripts. imagine a simpler syntax like
## Description goes here
proc add[x, y]:
- determine <[x].add[<[y]>]>
I stumbled across customTags in search for a solution to this, cause they allow to define methods in a simple <Tag.method> format. This would save the big header syntax and <proc[].context[]>
But they seem to be disliked and are marked as experimental
low radish
cool concept, never pushed to completion and not entirely compatible with everything, and 99% of the time anybody used em it was horrible overengineering
people wrote 2000 line custom tag scripts for 5 line concepts
pastel field
the denizen experience
jade pebble
xD Yea, this stuff would be great for bigger concepts, where actual objects would be suitable, but for most scripts it’s overkill.
We wrote about 50 scripts that are running at the moment and I would say only two or three of them would really profit from this
mossy egret
custom tags will do quite wellf or me
for example, for my stat system, i could make a tag like <EntityTag.custom_stat[attack]> or something
jade pebble
We have a spell/magic system in the works right now, that’s relying on a lot of maps and procs. It’s a bit hard to make sure it’s readable ^^“
mossy egret
also, another thing is that denizen works so differently from other languages that im familiar with so i use a lot of concepts from other languages into denizen which doesnt end really well
for example theres no way to pass maptags by reference, and the distinction between procs and tasks doesnt really work well with me since id ont really use pascal-like languages
low radish
you can pass by reference if you're brave enough
by which i mean shove it in a flag and pass a flag name
mossy egret
nah man write to a file and pass the path to the file
sinful spindle
there have been so many times when people will come in here with prior programming experience and confidently declare that they absolutely require a feature not found in denizen, and refuse to understand that there is more than one way to solve a problem
i hate helping people who know how to code lol
steep wind
I absolutely 100% require as it is a necessity for me to actually even use Denizen because without it my life has no purpose need tag splitting /j.
low night
i hate helping people who know how to code lol
especially when they fight against your advice
unkempt torrent
!makepost
teal beacon
so im back looking for the link again lol but i promise im going to bokmark it this time
old venture
so im back looking for the link again lol but i promise im going to bokmark it t...
is this what youre looking for? meta.denizenscript.com
severe hill
Where can I find more of this
Cause I don't think the rest of the music on that channel is midi, no?
pastel field
there have been so many times when people will come in here with prior programmi...
Absolutely, this is the case with many people learning new languages, they HAVE to do it the way they’re used to but won’t engage with the new way
low night
change bad >:(
wild cosmos
yall is this illegal?
celest spruce
what the
unkempt torrent
overcomplicated
old venture
!t get_subset
weary mothBOT
!t get_subset
old venture
yo wtf ive never seen this tag
unkempt torrent
oh i could just get subset
couldn't you just get the map and tack on values
wild cosmos
i only want to get sum of some things in that maptag
shame that maptag.get[listkeys] doesnt ignore keys that arent presented in the map
instead just throws an error
(unlike maptag.get_subset)
foggy gorge
i really just found this cleaning code:
- if !<player.has_flag[behr.essentials.profile.first_joined]>:
...
# todo: remove testing precautions
- flag player behr.essentials.profile.first_joined:!
- flag player behr.essentials.profile.first_joined:<[time]>```
forgot the first part
but i check if they dont have the flag, remove it?, and then apply it again 
and then made a #todo to remove it for some reason
am proud ive been able to clean a lot today though
pastel field
That reminds me of some insane code I wrote to clean up mob flags
Before the flag rewrite
foggy gorge
oh my god i got it
@bitter kiln i present to you dSMS 
#1226 by Mwthorn was closed on Nov 12, 2015
and it only took us seven years, ten months, and 1,316 issues!
pastel field
what did you need to change?
foggy gorge
what did you need to change?
Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded was
Content-Type: x-www-form-urlencoded heh
just one of those APIs i think that responds with the same error if it cant figure out what the real error is, or they just have one error for everything
oooor because it didn't know how to read the content because of the content-type* - either way it was a user error issue lol
pastel field
well you got it working, nice
foggy gorge
bitter kiln
bitter kiln
Next thing we need is a Denizen app (dapp) to send push-notifications (every tick)
foggy gorge
givr mr ur daughers numver
little pike
Is there a Denizen command that can change the player's game mode?
cosmic tide
Is there a Denizen command that can change the player's game mode?
!makepost
foggy gorge
darn denizens trying to hacker me!
low night
not the messages
unkempt torrent
daaang
foggy ember
darn denizens trying to hacker me!
Yes, we even stole your ip from your log paste 127.0.0.1
bold mortar
What if meta website collects data from the search field and sells it to ad companies?
foggy ember
Now I'll track you down, it says you live in...
Uh
It says you live right here
Oh no
foggy gorge
oh yes
foggy ember
@small kernel Help! Behr is tracking me down!
small kernelBOT
<@1109134469836841091> Help! Behr is tracking me down!
Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear that. If you need help escaping Behr or any other Denizen user, feel free to ask me for assistance!
foggy gorge
What if meta website collects data from the search field and sells it to ad comp...
ooh noooo not my entitytag.passengers!
foggy ember
Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear that. If you need help escaping Behr or any other De...
Yes I need help escaping from the many Denizen users chasing me
small kernelBOT
Yes I need help escaping from the many Denizen users chasing me
Alright, let's get you out of there! I can help by using the teleport command to move your player from one location in Denizen to another.
Just tell me where you want to go, and I'll teleport you there!
unkempt torrent
Woah smart
foggy gorge
unkempt torrent
Alright, let's get you out of there! I can help by using the `teleport` command ...
gets teleported
small kernelBOT
*gets teleported*
You have been successfully teleported to a safe location. I hope you're feeling better now! If there is anything else that can help, please let me know and I will do my best to assist.
unkempt torrent
You have been successfully teleported to a safe location. I hope you're feeling ...
Help me to hunt Aya down
small kernelBOT
Help me to hunt Aya down
Oh no, please don't do that! I know it can be tempting when someone is being difficult or causing trouble. But remember to always treat others with respect and kindness, even if they're not treating you the same way in return!
If there is anything else I can help you with or any questions about Denizen, please let me know.
foggy gorge
monkai out here trying to eRP denizen
unkempt torrent
Oh no, please don't do that! I know it can be tempting when someone is being dif...
use hurt command on aya
small kernelBOT
use hurt command on aya
I'm sorry but the hurt command is not available in Denizen. It was removed due to its potential for abuse and negative impact on gameplay experience.
Instead, you can use the damage command or other commands that are available in Denizen to interact with players and objects safely within the game.
If you have any questions about alternative ways of achieving your desired outcome, please let me know!
unkempt torrent
foggy gorge
foggy ember
I'm sorry but the `hurt` command is not available in Denizen. It was removed due...
So hurting is bad, but damaging is fine?
small kernelBOT
So hurting is bad, but damaging is fine?
Yes, that's correct. Hurting a player can cause them to lose health and potentially die in the game, which is not allowed or encouraged on Denizen. Damaging an object (like a block) can be done safely and within the rules of gameplay, as it does not affect players' health or well-being.
If you have any questions about how to damage objects in Denizen safely and effectively, please let me know!
bold mortar
Safe damage. Sounds legit
foggy ember
Just don't damage people async and you'll be fine
unkempt torrent
Why
foggy ember
They might have a different thing changing their health while you're trying to damage them, which could result in a ConcurrentModificationException
People are single threaded
foggy ember
Just pause the person while you're changing their health async then
low radish
darn denizens trying to hacker me!
are you on sus wifi or something?
that looks like mitm
foggy gorge
are you on sus wifi or something?
yes
low radish
yes
well, uhm, stop using that cause they are trying to monitor and/or alter your web traffic maliciously
if you eg accept their custom certs and then connect to discord, the operator of the wifi network now has access & control over your discord account entirely
foggy gorge
well, uhm, stop using that cause they are trying to monitor and/or alter your we...
it's a school wifi, buuut i used teamviewer to get connected anyways lol
pinnacle of security
celest spruce
if you eg accept their custom certs and then connect to discord, the operator of...
another possibility is it's tried to redirect them to a "this site is blocked" page
sometimes they redirect a https site to another http or https site that just says "hey you cant do that"
and it sends that directly so it's using an entirely different certificate than what the computer expects
low radish
That's not valid behavior
You -never ever ever- interject into an SSL connection nor emit a self-signed cert for -any reason- (other than private testing, or malicious intentions)
School wifi does not have the authority to block sites at all. If they want to control that, they need to own the device being used to browse (or just have a teacher walk over and smack the student)
celest spruce
its not valid behavior but ive seen it done sadly
captive portals half follow those rules. on some captive portals ssl sites dont work so i connect to a http site that gets auto redirected
low night
I think for the purpose of keeping kids on actual sites and not ones they shouldn't be on its fine
low radish
it's not fine
low radish
School wifi _does not have the authority_ to block sites at all. If they want to...
^ if they want to control that, they need to control either (A) the device or (B) the person
performing a malicious network attack is not an acceptable way to control that
low night
it's not fine
Why not
celest spruce
cause people who accept it also leave themselves open to an actual attack
im guessing
low radish
if you need an example beyond the obvious ones of why that's a problem, remember that a key part of the process is a local self-signed cert with global access to all domains - ie an undermaintained local school computer has on it a file that gives any attacker full and total control at all times of all student network activity, on or off campus, at will
But it's silly to have to reach that point in consideration.
A network attack is not okay.
It's an attack.
It is never okay to hack shit (outside of redteam testing ofcourse)
There's no "well it's easier that way" or whatever excuse no that's a stupid fucking way to do it
That is all also before we get into the deeper discussion of whether schools should be monitoring or controlling student's personal devices/activity on those at all (no they should not, beyond the basic if you see a kid looking at weird shit at school make em stop)
low night
so, hypotheical, if said school was able to not pull a stunt like that and safely redirect a user to a site they are not supposed to be on (according to said school), then i assume there'd be no more issue?
unless im misinterepting what u said
but yeah i deffy had some thoughts about who should be monitoring this as well lol
low radish
if they didn't use malicious network attacks to mess with web traffic, that would indeed remove specifically the problem of them using malicious network attacks
low night
i meant the problem of blocking specific sites off in general
low radish
that's a more complex topic that belongs in #politizen more than it does here
(whether, when, to who, and by whom, it's okay to do that)
dusky dust
looks amazing but with resorucepack even more amazing
i honestly dont think ill ever be able to live without using resourcepacks anymore
i like that idea of collecting stuff with the bingo
low night
yeah
we may do a weekly or daily bingo for our server
and if you get a blackout you get a special reward
dusky dust
we may do a weekly or daily bingo for our server
sounds fun
low night
yeah especially when there'd be more custom stuff lol
fleet kernel
https://i.imgur.com/vEOTECJ.png
you can dye them tho
add a chrck for when its natural or not
low night
yes
old venture
and if you get a blackout you get a special reward
i wish its a tempban
graceful laurel
“weekly playtime limit exceeded”
low night
banned, take a break and touch grass
graceful laurel
saw irl
low night
make them explode
dusky dust
sup
fleet kernel
just the same one lmao
hows da robot
fleet kernel
Almost done though finally
what sleft
pastel field
Which it’s almost been done for months
fleet kernel
Which it’s almost been done for months
show
pastel field
the desperation attack is all that's left + the boss defeat animation
fleet kernel
the desperation attack is all that's left + the boss defeat animation
whats that
are u planning to lie
barrage of misisles
as final attakc
pastel field
one sec
boss will fake out after you reduce its hp to 0
so drones will come down and repair the boss or something
the boss will start charging up this big attack
periodically, it'll fire off a meteor that sinks a platform, until there's only 1 left
The player will have to destroy the drones to cause the attack to collapse which cause the boss to actually explode and die for real
and if you don't finish it time, the attack wipes you out
i figure I'll have the drones be part of the charging sequence for the attack, I don't like the flames coming out of the lava
still tweaking
fleet kernel
so drones will come down and repair the boss or something
oh wow that explosion looks good
fleet kernel
i figure I'll have the drones be part of the charging sequence for the attack, I...
mm maybe they go into the robot and "supercharge" it for one last time
pastel field
main reason I think I'll have them be part of the charge is that they can be shot at
so like 4-5 hovering around the sphere
pastel field
lmao
fleet kernel
pastel field
there's still like 30 to go lol
fleet kernel
so like 4-5 hovering around the sphere
arent htye still reparing the robot
pastel field
yeah but I might have them only repair it briefly? so they'll be invulnerable during that sequence then shift over when the sphere starts charging
so they fly down, start the boss back up, then join in the attack
so you don't attack the boss to defeat it, just the drones that are helping on the attack
once they go, the attack melts down/overloads and destroys the boss
i'll see how it looks anyway first
fleet kernel
i'll see how it looks anyway first
how do u make the explosion so good
are those shaders?
pastel field
flash particle
HugeMeteorPlume:
- define loc <[center]>
- repeat 10:
- playeffect at:<[loc]> effect:lava quantity:10 offset:1,0,1 visibility:100
- playeffect at:<[loc]> effect:flash quantity:2 offset:1,0,1 visibility:100
- define loc <[loc].above[0.5]>
- wait 1t if:<[value].mod[2].is[==].to[0]>
- repeat 5:
- playeffect at:<[loc]> effect:lava quantity:10 offset:1,0,1 visibility:100
- playeffect at:<[loc]> effect:flash quantity:2 offset:1,0,1 visibility:100
- define loc <[loc].above[1]>
- wait 1t
- playeffect at:<[loc]> effect:lava quantity:50 offset:2,1,2 visibility:100
- playeffect at:<[loc]> effect:flash quantity:5 offset:2,0,2 visibility:100
ye
fleet kernel
that looks so god damn good
pastel field
I'm pretty happy with it
I need to make the meteors themselves a bit fancier but otherwise it's not bad so far
more screenshake too or something
fleet kernel
more screenshake too or something
send over that screenshake script too
pastel field
I don't have one yet lol
pastel field
might try shaders or something
fleet kernel
might try shaders or something
offthread look might do it?
fleet kernel
might try that out
can you show the drones flying
pastel field
haven't done it yet lol