Open Denizen Discussion Thread

[summer fable]

umm

lemme see

oo yeah /discussion

[teal beacon]

current issue with Denizzen plugin

[unkempt torrent]

Yeah thats no

You went into a Discussion thread

[teal beacon]

i've tried the latest 4 stable builds including previous builds

[unkempt torrent]

Please make a post

!makepost

[weary moth]

Info: makepost

If you have a support question, please make a forum post for it!

"But it's just a yes/no question!"
We hear this from users quite often, and, frankly, it almost never is just a yes/no question - many seemingly simple questions lead to long answers or complex debugging or interesting discussions or...

"But you've probably gotten this question before and have the answer prepared"
All the more reason to use forum posts! When you're typing the title, it auto-searches existing posts, and thus if you're asking a repeat question, you'll instantly find the prior time it was asked, and the answer it had then, before you even press enter on your post!

"But it's not worth bothering"
Good news: it takes almost no more effort to make a post than to type in a channel! It's really really easy!

"But I don't want to annoy the helpers"
A forum post won't annoy us! We prefer it! Most of us don't get pinged or anything, it's fine!

[teal beacon]

lol xD oops

[pulsar cloak]

we'll have to make a !noquestions command

[sinful spindle]

That's this

[fleet kernel]

!noquestions

[pulsar cloak]

nono, like one specifically to prevent people from accidently posting in the discussion thread

[unkempt torrent]

!rule 2 3 @knotty vale

[weary moth]

Rule 2

Don't spam. https://denizenscript.com/discord_rules#rule2
Don't post a lot of nonsense.
Also, no advertising!

This message is not a warning, it is just for your information.

Rule 3

Don't ping for help. https://denizenscript.com/discord_rules#rule3
"Pinging" refers to using an @ to alert somebody to your post.
Generally only ping somebody if your message is very specifically directed at them (meaning, only that person has anything to do with the information in your message, and it would be confusing who it was for without the ping).

If you're asking a question, please just make a forum post and ask.
If you have a bug report or a feature request, please just make a forum post about it.

If this is pulled up for you by a helper, your ping was unneeded.
If you're arguing about it, you're wrong.

This message is not a warning, it is just for your information.

[unkempt torrent]

!rule 8 @knotty vale

[weary moth]

Rule 8

Don't overuse the edit/delete buttons. https://denizenscript.com/discord_rules#rule8
Use the edit button to fix typos, and the delete button to remove an accidental post shortly after posting.
Do not remove a post that pings someone, do not edit or delete a post that people have already replied to.

This message is not a warning, it is just for your information.

[unkempt torrent]

Please check our #rules

[knotty vale]

i delete bc it has been already solve

lol

[mossy egret]

its better to leave it there so other users can refer back to it

[knotty vale]

aight sorry

[grim quail]

https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wisdom_of_the_ancients.png It's the equivalent of doing this.

[cursive tide]

haha I feel that. Chat-GPT has been very helpful with figuring out errors.

[quartz wraith]

OH CHAT GPT THIS CHAT GPT THAT UNZIP THE MOD JAR AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO REMOVE THE ERROR

[fleet kernel]

bopper

[candid kraken]

I can’t help but read every one of your messages in a sassy Harry Potter voice because of your profile picture lol

[knotty vale]

lol

[digital hamlet]

Anyone ever seen/made a script that will have random meteorites fall from the sky? (Particle trails) and spawn a chest on the impact point?

[viscid pasture]

Havent done it, but shouldnt be too hard to do tbh. Fiance wanted me to recreate a plugin that did that for his server just havent gotten around to it

[low night]

sounds like something that can take advantage of the new display entities

[pastel field]

could do with falling sand to if you wanted to keep it old school/were on an older version

[grim quail]

With display entities the meteors should look better.

[unkempt torrent]

Yeah

You can mount block_displays on entities that's nice to move them around.

[grim quail]

When we get proper support for display entities in denizen I'm absolutely moving to 1.19.4

I mean I'm gonna do it anyways but that's when I'm going to fully jump ship.

[old venture]

quaternions have been avoided succesfully

[reef wharf]

lol quanternions aren't even a big deal. They're just euclid rotations + 1

[foggy ember]

euclid rotations?

Math stuff aren't my strong suit lol, although tbf I never learned it in English so might know what that is but not by it's English name

[pastel field]

i guess rotations in euclidean space?

[reef wharf]

ya, three axis rotation.

[graceful laurel]

four axis rotation when? 👀

[reef wharf]

I mean, that's basically what a quaternion is

[low radish]

ah, yes. the W component of the quaternion is for rotations through time, yes

[reef wharf]

It's wumbo, obviously

[graceful laurel]

five* axis rotation when? 👀

[sinful spindle]

when you make a 4d game

[low radish]

or, when you design CNC equipment and want to confuse people

[graceful laurel]

lol

[sinful spindle]

lol what

is that combining movement through space and rotation?

in the sense that a minecraft location is 5ish values?

[reef wharf]

The A, B, C axises? Damn, babe, new axises just dropped

[graceful laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-strange-doctor-floating-whats-happening-gif-22077053

[low radish]

(they call any motor an axis, so they'll do shit like... the cutter can rotate and the baseplate can rotate, that's 2 distinct axes!)

[graceful laurel]

no time manipulation? unacceptable

[grim quail]

I see the term CNC and think of two vastly different terms.

[viscid pasture]

well we're talking about computer numerical control, not... the other one

[low radish]

why did i check urban dictionary

what's wrong with you people

(I don't actually care what you get up into in your private bedroom and/or computer screen)

(I do wish fewer acronyms would have surprised cursed alternative meanings though. We need like an acronym registration where you just can't use it if its taken too bad get a different one)

[graceful laurel]

lol

[grim quail]

The first thing I thought of was Command and Conquer. Which I guess might be C&C. The other well uh, you found that out.

[low night]

Surprise!

[viscid pasture]

i mean

one of my comp sci professors just found out why many students think its strange that our school has an official handsign called "the shocker" which is the exact same as a Different handsign called "the shocker"

[digital hamlet]

I can't find a whitelist in the denizen docs?

[grim quail]

!m has_whitelist

[weary moth]

Mechanism: has_whitelist

Toggles whether the server's whitelist is enabled.

Object

server

Input

ElementTag(Boolean)

Tags

<server.has_whitelist> Returns whether the server's whitelist is active.

[grim quail]

But next time

!makepost

[weary moth]

Info: makepost

If you have a support question, please make a forum post for it!

"But it's just a yes/no question!"
We hear this from users quite often, and, frankly, it almost never is just a yes/no question - many seemingly simple questions lead to long answers or complex debugging or interesting discussions or...

"But you've probably gotten this question before and have the answer prepared"
All the more reason to use forum posts! When you're typing the title, it auto-searches existing posts, and thus if you're asking a repeat question, you'll instantly find the prior time it was asked, and the answer it had then, before you even press enter on your post!

"But it's not worth bothering"
Good news: it takes almost no more effort to make a post than to type in a channel! It's really really easy!

"But I don't want to annoy the helpers"
A forum post won't annoy us! We prefer it! Most of us don't get pinged or anything, it's fine!

[meager parcel]

Where is the problem with this error??
https://mclo.gs/Ub7mg2C

[graceful laurel]

!makepost

[weary moth]

Info: makepost

If you have a support question, please make a forum post for it!

"But it's just a yes/no question!"
We hear this from users quite often, and, frankly, it almost never is just a yes/no question - many seemingly simple questions lead to long answers or complex debugging or interesting discussions or...

"But you've probably gotten this question before and have the answer prepared"
All the more reason to use forum posts! When you're typing the title, it auto-searches existing posts, and thus if you're asking a repeat question, you'll instantly find the prior time it was asked, and the answer it had then, before you even press enter on your post!

"But it's not worth bothering"
Good news: it takes almost no more effort to make a post than to type in a channel! It's really really easy!

"But I don't want to annoy the helpers"
A forum post won't annoy us! We prefer it! Most of us don't get pinged or anything, it's fine!

[meager parcel]

and where do i need to go for that?

[graceful laurel]

!usethreads

[weary moth]

Info: usethreads

Please create a thread for your question or discussion!

Threads are a useful tool on Discord to organize discussions so people aren't talking over each other in a text channel.

You can make a thread by clicking the symbol that looks like a # at the top-right of your Discord window.

[graceful laurel]

That’s slightly misleading actually

The forum channel that you clicked on to chat in this thread, click there.

Then type in your question and hit the make post button

[meager parcel]

i see new post

[soft pewter]

click the button and then it will let you type out your question and then click the button again when you are ready to post it

[foggy gorge]

looks like display entities still have that rendering bug that armorstands do... if theyre off screen, they don't render - unless i can change that some way?

[foggy ember]

iirc that's just their origin being off-screen so Minecraft doesn't render that entity? could probably work around that by moving their origin and fixing it with transforms

[foggy gorge]

i actually kind of want to try making this next
im just finally able to get around with messing with this stuff lol

[low night]

that would make me pull my hair out trying to do that

lmao

it is really cool though

[foggy gorge]

well, i either work with that or trying to figure out how vertices and shit work to tilt my aircrafts, i want both of those

[graceful laurel]

how on earth was this accomplished lol

[low night]

display entities

[graceful laurel]

oh this is recent?

[foggy ember]

No that's older then that iirc

[foggy gorge]

actually that video is very old lol

[low night]

oh

[foggy ember]

So probably armor stands

[low night]

it's probably better with display entities now tho

[foggy gorge]

yesss

[low night]

that's the stuff it was meant for

[severe hornet]

does the culling setting not affect this

[low night]

i saw a video where that didn't happen

i don't know where it is but someone posted a twitter video

pretty sure there is some way

[old venture]

Wonderful day! ✨

[fossil steeple]

ASCII Name Rule Enforcement

Name patch: @jovial rain had a nickname that started with a symbol or number...applied a special first symbol in place. Please start your name with a letter from A to Z. (This is to prevent users from artificially appearing at the top of the userlist).

[old venture]

Of course! Thank you ^^

The one who chose the dot instead of removing the characters or renaming to something relatively artless is a pure charmer...

i agree, i never saw the bot just adding a dot instead of naming something random!

Please accept my sincere appreciation, dear developer of the so magnificent feature... It's highly empathetic and awesome... ✨

[foggy ember]

I mean, that's just the bot's temporary fix, you can set your nickname to whatever you'd like within those rules ^

[old venture]

just made my newest monster tag:

<[center].add[<location[10,15,0].rotate_around_y[<[value].to_radians.mul[<[data.radians_mul]>]>]>].points_between[<[center].add[<location[11,-4,0].rotate_around_y[<[value].to_radians.mul[<[data.radians_mul]>]>]>]>].distance[0.35]>

[foggy ember]

@fossil steeple banish @old venture

[fossil steeple]

Unknown Command

Unknown command. Consider the help command?

[reef wharf]

What is this event supposed to do?

[old venture]

https://tenor.com/view/dwpignoli-gif-19524270

[old venture]

draws and rotates a line

kek

lemme clarify, it creates a vertical line and rotates it in the y axis

[reef wharf]

That's like, the most obnoxious way to do that xD

[old venture]

KEK

once i figure out the looks i'll record the result

[reef wharf]

Why not just get the distance between point a and point b, do the rotations and stuff around 0,0,0, and then add them back to wherever they were before?

Actually, that does look like what you're doing 💀 It's just hard to tell cause you stuck it all in a single tag

[old venture]

hmm im actually getting points a and b, rotating them and then getting the points between them

im actually not even sure if thats the same thing LMFAO

oh god monster tags are horrible

[low night]

Could you take advantage of the forward tag in that case?

I've started using that when needing to rotate specific things around a central point

[old venture]

hm? how?

i cant see forward being useful while.. rotating

[low night]

Have a center with a given pitch and yaw. then go forward however much you like. Then rotate this across the x or y axis. The forward location marks your second point

It's how I draw circles

Not exactly sure what you're doing though with that tag

[old venture]

oh i think thats actually a bit more complex than the way i did in there

[low night]

Literally me lol

I had been using trig functions before to write circles

[old venture]

if you want to check my way for yourself, give it a <[center]> location and put that into a repeat 20 or above

[low night]

I can try in a bit

[old venture]

like,
repeat 20:
playeffect at:wholeasstag

oh and the <[data.radians_mul]> is set to 4 in my script

[low night]

Gotcha

[old venture]

although i'm really interested on how you do your circles. can you give me a paste? from what i understood, it might actually massively help me on a problem i've been stuck in for a few days/weeks

[low night]

Yeah let me finish what I'm doing rq lol

[old venture]

ye no probs lmao

[low night]

https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/108065

you could probably condense it even further by inserting the rotate_yaw jargon inside with_pitch instead of 0. Removing rotate_yaw entirely

oh it should also probably have an offset of zero lol

[old venture]

that looks like it makes a spiral, am i wrong?

[low night]

https://i.imgur.com/B5U8fDU.png

[old venture]

but some clever thinking, actually cleaner than my way

[low night]

nice imbed

but yeah

it'll be a circle

[old venture]

oh wait LOL lemme tell you something that makes exactly that

!t points_around_y

[weary moth]

Tag: <LocationTag.points_around_y[radius=<#.#>;points=<#>]>

Returns a list of points in a circle around a location's y axis with the specified radius and number of points.
For example: <player.location.points_around_y[radius=10;points=16]>

Group

math

Returns

ListTag(LocationTag)

[old venture]

kek

[low night]

oh nice

[old venture]

but nice to see your logic, if you slap the repeat's <[value]> on the .up, it easily becomes a spiral

[low night]

absolutely

[old venture]

and i had so much trouble in the past trying to figure spirals out lmao

[low night]

the up tag just makes it so it doesn't go into the floor

[old venture]

i always prefer to do these at eye height

or middle of the body at just above[1]

[low night]

ye

here's something i did with it a long bit ago

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/635304225219411988/849126797664976906/Jre-legacy_2021.05.31_-_22.25.38.02.DVR_Trim.mp4

it's hard to see but it has an interesting trail to it

which can be easily recreated with that tag you provided though

[old venture]

YOOO WHAT THE FUCK THATS SICK

nah those things that go in cant

[low night]

damn that's close to 2 years ago

actually maybe ur right

[old venture]

the points around xyz tags always close the circle so it cant

[low night]

depends on how it knows where to start getting the points

i've got way too many items like that

i have a whole treasure chest of toys

item toys basically lol

ill post like 3 more of the ones i like tho lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/635304225219411988/854374233219661854/Base_Profile_2021.06.15_-_09.52.35.97.DVR_1.mp4

this one is pretty fun but it's technically in vanilla only

ok it just doesn't wanna send imbeds

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/635304225219411988/895386981540962354/Minecraft_2021.10.06_-_14.06.24.05.DVR_Trim_Trim.mp4

[bold mortar]

what a vibe

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/xianb/images/a/ae/Blqoi7.gif

[low radish]

cc @old venture that bot feature is for the people who name themselves shit like !! NameHere as a hack to force themselves to the top of the userlist, sometimes because they like attention, other times to advertise shit. The little dot is a high value unicode that instead places them at the very bottom but otherwise is barely visible on the name.
The random names are only used when the username is unreadable nonsense and it has to apply something halfway typable.
The expectation in both cases is if you give half a shit at all after the bot renames you you'll go and set your own nickname to whatever you actually want it to be as Aya said.
In this case presumably just Angel is the nickname you'd want

(For the record: to ping you I had to type @ngel and select you from the list)

[foggy gorge]

the cool kids here pay $10/month to sponsor for top-tablist advertising

[old venture]

yea

[foggy gorge]

still have to scroll a good few times myself to see someone named aaasteve haha

[old venture]

xd it was a joke anyway im offline mostly

[foggy gorge]

you should check out campfire smoke for clouds, i feel like that'd look really good with that effect

also a really neat idea

steals

i cant see the second video yet, my screen is too dark and im too annoyed with bright theme to change yet so i can see things again lol

ooo now the harry potter thing makes sense lol very neat!

[low night]

Thanks

I like the campfire smoke idea a lot

[old venture]

fuck man sometimes i wish i could change my denizen knowledge for the ability to do cool stuff

[low night]

Those scripts are really outdated though and really... REALLY inefficient

One day I'll showcase all of the fun items maybe lol

[old venture]

making magic spells (working with particles) is for me so much easier than making a system of any kind (bank system, quest system, ...)

[low night]

I started denizen with the intention of making cool items like this lol

So I have a lot of practice with it

I still remember the first item I made

I've made so many renditions of it now

[foggy gorge]

my first few denizen scripts were from me downloading the denizen videoes, all of the meta pages, and i was in the car for 3-6 hours without internet

it was also mostly me screeching that it didn't work because i couldnt have possibly typed it wrong

[low night]

I didn't know how to check errors at first so I be frantically searching for the error in my code when something visually errored

[foggy gorge]

i blatantly ignored my console because i couldnt read it from the colors very well back then

[low night]

yeah

being able to read the console output is a really good skill to have lol

probably even a crucial skill

[foggy gorge]

i think most everyone here who helps would say it's a mandatory skill

[low night]

yeah

[low radish]

that's less prevalent of a thing than it used to be but it reminded me to go check other big discords i moderate and i immediately found two people i needed to rename cause they had ! prefixes and were advertising shit

which isn't too bad

i remember at the height of it i looked in random public discords and found hundreds

[low night]

If you're on pc you can also shift click a person to get their @ in the chat

Which only really helps for smaller servers lol

I think you can only do that for the user list on the side

[foggy ember]

That's also a thing on mobile, but it's just a regular click which is really annoying - the amount of times I almost pinged someone

[low night]

oh that's neat!

[foggy gorge]

im gonna put a helper-bot in my spawn that players can talk to via AI generated responses lol

i need help with a name for the npc though

champagne seems to think i should use unoriginal names

[old venture]

name it champignon

the mushroom

and sounds like champagne too

[foggy gorge]

champignon

champignasgna

[old venture]

lasagne

lel

[foggy gorge]

dChampain, the super tough champ of pain - can't spell it without AI or all the asses it kicks in it's free time!

[old venture]

when display entities were introduced on here there was no background color for text display because spigot did not implement them correctly, is there any news on that? is it fixed yet?

[grim quail]

If I remember right monkey use to sometimes post stats regarding denizen with pie charts and stuff, and I remember them specifically showing a pie chart or something on the amount of scripts that servers were running. Someone had around 1,000+ or some servers did.

Wonder if that's a publicly available thing.

[sinful spindle]

it is

[grim quail]

I'm a little lost on where to find them.

[mossy egret]

https://stats.mcmonkey.org

[sinful spindle]

^

[grim quail]

Nice. How do you normally find this?

As in, if you didn't directly know the link.

[sinful spindle]

i don't think you do

it's for monkey

[grim quail]

Fair enough.

[sinful spindle]

16 1000+ script servers

almost 1%

[graceful laurel]

o.o

oh damn

[graceful laurel]

i didn't even see the 1000+ one lmao

[grim quail]

Hey that's me!

[sinful spindle]

more 1.16 users than 1.19.4 :(

[sinful spindle]

lol i've never stayed on one server long enough for that

[grim quail]

Well I'm overly ambitious for my own good.

[grim quail]

And the server is powered mostly through denizen.

[graceful laurel]

a lot of people are running plain 1.16.5

watf

and pufferfish seems to have started taking up some percent of servers

interesting 👀

[grim quail]

What the hell is CatServer

Oh it's forge/bukkit.

[foggy gorge]

meow

[old venture]

my god

lol

i keep forgetting i got rid of most of my scripts

[grim quail]

Well my entire server is built around denizen primarily, and a lot of those are probably single scripts that only have one line of code in them for procedures because I really can't be bothered to type out long lines in repeat during some of my bigger modules, such as trying to return specific variables from a cuboids maptag that I have. Better to have something like <[id].proc[claim_get_owner]> to neatly return stuff for myself.

[old venture]

Of course! Thank you very much, dear @low radish, for explanation and time. The "hoisting" is a known matter on single-tabled non-competitive publicly available customizable information tables. As being a moderator in a server with quite of members, we just ignored it except for the advertisers or ToS-disrespectful/misuse in general. The "dot" is a nice idea, and I'll have it in mind now! ^^
Personally, I don't think that I used the slashes to appear higher considering the ASCII order, but to remove the middle line in the A and preserve the most available charset. As far as I recall, this account has had the nickname set since the very registration.
It's highly interesting why the Discord client did not suggest the nickname with the slashes being in the search field, it always worked locally in all Electron clients and Android!

Is it possible that something interfered with the search process like a browser extension?

[fleet kernel]

https://daxz.discowd.com/grapevine_v1.mp4

u cant really tell but those vines are like rounded and are random

[pastel field]

i'd say the hardest part is usually just coming up with a good idea
once you've got it, the rest is figuring out how to achieve the idea

the process of doing and finding out what you can/can

't do often helps you come up with new stuff too

also once you have an idea you can come here and ask for help haha

[pastel field]

also i've noticed there's some inconsistency in some of the tags which i assume is due to changes in naming convention or something
like how some tags are "is_small" vs "on_fire" instead of "is_on_fire" vs "has_gravity"

[old venture]

nice. now i can remove that thing in my script

[spiral yew]

Strange bug I encountered. Basically there appears to be a way to destroy the players bed and bed_spawn still return valid. I'm not sure how to replicate it but it was strange. Might just check to see if there's a bed nearby the bed_spawn area anyways.

Just doing some testing since I ran into that weird behavior.

Looks like it's a spigot issue though, doubt it's related to denizen based on what I looked up online.

Makes me just want to implement the bed spawn logic strictly in denizen so I don't have to think about how it works internally. Flag the players bed location and call it a day lol.

(Basically I have a spell that teleports you to the players bed, and that's when I discovered this bug after destroying the bed for some reason the link between the player and the bed location didn't break)

[pastel field]

could be something like the value doesn't update until they link to a new bed?

[spiral yew]

Nah it definitely updates when the bed breaks

which is why I'm confused why sometimes I was able to teleport to the location after breaking the bed.

I can't even reproduce the glitch, that's the worst part.

Hmm, actually I'm not so sure about that.

So if you do narrate on the player's bed spawn location after breaking the bed, it returns null.

but if you place a bed back in the correct spot, it magically links back up

well, not even the same spot, but within a range of the bed_spawn location.

I wonder how it works internally.

Because previously when I was teleporting to the bed spawn location, there wasn't even a bed there. Can't reproduce though.

You know what? Both times this happened with the beds being double beds.

because im weird and that's how I build my beds in survival lol

Even knowing that, can't reproduce. oh well.

Looks like it links the player to a bed somehow, either by the location of the head block of it or whatever. If the bed is enclosed on all sides it spawns you on the bed, if not it spawns you adjacent to it. The location is not stored because when I checked the bed_spawn value, it just changes depending on the previous rules.

A. Look for open adjacent block.
B. Look for open above block.

So it seems that, somehow, I was linked to a bed block that had been broken. Not sure how I did it. Curious little bug. Not too important and I need to stop getting stuck on these trivial issues.

[old venture]

OMG GUYS mojang fixed debug blocks

nvm we have block displays now

[old venture]

kek

[digital hamlet]

Anyone got any cool ideas for any 'custom' items I can make with denizen

like function wise.

not weapons etc.

I have stuff like, items to prevent phantoms spawning, magnets etc.

[old venture]

but but those are "function wise" items

[grim quail]

Just take some ideas from reliquary.

[digital hamlet]

Who or wat is that lmao

Oop ping on sorry

[timid mortar]

😂

[digital hamlet]

Why is the bot laughing at me what is happening LOL

[grim quail]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/reliquary-v1-3

It's an old mod.

Lot of cool function type items like holding a salamanders eye prevents you from being set on fire.

[digital hamlet]

Oh.. april fools ? Lmao

[low radish]

oh christ i need to fix that oh no

[digital hamlet]

LOL

[old venture]

kek bot borked in so many different levels

[digital hamlet]

Is it an april fools function inside the bot that kicked on automatically ?

Or are you guys pulling my leg lol

👀

[tepid hull]

Little of column A, little bit of column B.

[digital hamlet]

👌🏻

[unkempt torrent]

working on an item display editor

but item displays are so fucky to select

[pastel field]

looks good though

i like the bombed out beach lol

[unkempt torrent]

fixed it nice

ray_trace is perfect

<player.eye_location.ray_trace[range=5;default=air]>

I'm hyped

[unkempt torrent]

this is kinda cool but I have to figure out what these values do

The first 3 values rotate the item

the last one increases the size?

[soft pewter]

Looks awesome!

[unkempt torrent]

I dont get these values

ooo

quaternion

[unkempt torrent]

got it!

[soft pewter]

ooo!

[unkempt torrent]

I fucking hate math

[unkempt torrent]

now I have to make it userfriendly and player proof

[low radish]

@timid mortar what can Icecapade do to resolve his math problems and make his new feature user friendly?

[timid mortar]

Icecapade needs to ensure he has clearly defined requirements and understands how users will interact with the system before coding begins. He also needs to create test cases to verify functionality works correctly and provide feedback to users. Additionally, he could utilize design thinking techniques such as personas and storyboards to better understand user needs and expectations. Finally, he should document his code and keep track of changes made throughout development to avoid confusion later on. Overall, by taking these steps, Icecapade can

[old venture]

nice. with this guide, ice will be able to

[pastel field]

Yes, this tips will make it much easier for him to

[unkempt torrent]

and understands how users will interact with the system before coding begins, fuck

[candid kraken]

@timid mortar what are my pronouns

wait oops

[timid mortar]

Your pronouns are "they/them"

[candid kraken]

aaaa wrong channel

[old venture]

re: #changelog message

why entirely new tag when could just add a new arg for ray_trace

[low radish]

different object return type

also slightly different input

also cleaner/simpler to use in a script

[old venture]

yeah true simplicity wins

!t ray_trace_entity

[weary moth]

Cannot Find Searched Tag

Unknown tag.

Possible Confusion

Did you mean to search for locationtag.ray_trace?

[old venture]

oh its target

[low radish]

!reload

[old venture]

!t ray_trace_target

[weary moth]

Reloading

Yes, boss. Reloading meta documentation now...

Reload Complete

Documentation reloaded successfully.

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178

Mechanisms

570

Tags

2311

Object Types

68

Events

365

Actions

39

Languages

77

Guide Pages

87

[old venture]

yipe

[weary moth]

Tag: <LocationTag.ray_trace_target[(range=<#.#>/{200});(blocks=<{true}/false>);(fluids=<true/{false}>);(nonsolids=<true/{false}>);(entities=<matcher>);(ignore=<entity>|...);(raysize=<#.#>/{0})]>

Traces a line from this location towards the direction it's facing, returning the first hit entity (if any).
This is similar to !tag LocationTag.precise_target and !tag PlayerTag.target, except offering more options for how the ray trace is performed.
For ray tracing locations, see !tag LocationTag.ray_trace.
Optionally specify:
range: (defaults to 200) a maximum distance (in blocks) to trace before giving up.
blocks: (defaults to true) specify "false" to ignore all blocks, ...

Group

world

Returns

EntityTag

Examples

# Removes the entity a player is looking at.
- define target <player.eye_location.ray_trace_target[ignore=<player>]||null>
- if <[target]> != null:
    - remove <[target]>

# Returns any player within the view of an NPC.
- define target <npc.eye_location.ray_trace_target[entities=player;raysize=2]||null>

# Highlights an entity through any number or types of blocks.
- define target <player.eye_location.ray_trace_target[ignore=<player>;blocks=false]||null>
- if <[target]> != null:
    - adjust <[target]> glowing:true

[old venture]

oooh it really is an entirely different tag kek

[pastel field]

oh sick

[unkempt torrent]

siiiick

[spiral yew]

Oh and Ice, my idea of merging the on join, and on respawn, into just a generic on player spawns doesn't work because respawning doesn't trigger that event.

[storm shore]

Your tool is really awesome!
Some improvements that would be cool to have is to lock the scale ratio (when changing the scale in x, it changes also in y and z) and why not handling also display_blocks and display_text
Thanks a lot for this tool!

[unkempt torrent]

when changing the scale in x, it changes also in y and z that shouldn't happen, if I understand you correctly

will add display_blocks and / display_texts later in a separate tool when denizen implemented display entities properly

@storm shore ^

[storm shore]

No, mb, I wanted to say that it would be interesting to permit the user to change the 3 scales once
At the moment, when I change the scale it deforms the item because all scales are separated

But deforming an item is also intereting imo

[unkempt torrent]

Oo ye

[unkempt torrent]

@storm shore can you create a feature request on the repo
https://github.com/Hydroxycobalamin/Denizen-Script-Collection

[old venture]

@timid mortar help me

[foggy gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/901618453356630052/987060220884828280/2022-06-16_14-24-30.mp4
display entities are going to make this crossbow soo much more fun lol

[old venture]

he's gone

[soft pewter]

Niceee

[reef wharf]

https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/108305 @dusky dust It's described in the proc itself what each arg does/what each usage is for

[dusky dust]

ok cool

[reef wharf]

All this is though is a way to tell how long a block should take to break. it doesn't actually handle the events, you'll have to do that part yourself

[dusky dust]

this really makes me wanna make a tower defense game

[dusky dust]

sure

[reef wharf]

And obviously, if you have non vanilla ways of modifying block breaking speed, the proc won't take it into acc

[dusky dust]

maybe i should make a thread on what i wanna do lol

1 sec

[grim quail]

I'm a sucker for these.

Really waiting for the day we get more proper support for display entities.

[low night]

are you by chance making a tower defense game based off of the video?

cause now i want to make a td game too

[unkempt torrent]

No thats an auto cannon that will kill players when they try to leave the spawn

[low night]

we playing SCUM now lmao

[pastel field]

Makes me think of the border turrets in borderlands lol

[low night]

yeah

[old venture]

please do

I MADE BLOONS TD 6 IN VANILLA MINECRAFT

[low night]

I added back btd5 monkeys to btd6 in minecraft

[old venture]

i managed to create the stinkiest server crashing script and i dont even know how or why

all i wanted to do was spawn in an npc

[sinful spindle]

please do not post it publically

[old venture]

i will not kek

i think i might create a thread asking for help in this because im honestly confused

[sinful spindle]

sure

[unkempt torrent]

added it https://forum.denizenscript.com/resources/item-display-editor.136/updates

[storm shore]

Thank you!

[old venture]

do we have any "do nothing" command

[sinful spindle]

major xyproblem + make a post

[old venture]

oh wait stupid question yeah just avoided needing to make that

[wild cosmos]

like pass or somethin?

can do just define none as none imo

[old venture]

i mean i reflected in it and it seems a lot of bad practice so i just didnt do it

[mossy egret]

i think the only way it will have a use is if tags had side effects, which they dont

[tepid hull]

If you're looking for a placeholder whilst testing, I suppose you could use something like - define do Nothing, or ... - stop

[low night]

Wait zero ticks

[mossy egret]

- wait <some.tag.null_if[true].if_null[0t]>

[unkempt torrent]

display entities are cool

[old venture]

ah yes the famous wait 0t

[unkempt torrent]

guys guys

what do you think on what block I'M standing on

[foggy gorge]

pspsp - clearly it's a dirt block! you can't fool me!

[unkempt torrent]

AHA!

let me give you a hint behr!

[old venture]

pffft playeffect at it again..

you jokester!

[unkempt torrent]

it's a obsidian block inside a item_display

I'm going to write an engine which lets you create custom blocks, ye that sounds fun

only issue i have here is the shadow, looks funky at night

[graceful laurel]

o.o

[unkempt torrent]

I think I can block update them in caves by listening to light sources, but at the surface mhh

[unkempt torrent]

aaaa

[old venture]

it rlly does

but how about you make it accept 3d models for the blocks

THEN it'll be really fun

[unkempt torrent]

whatcha mean

[old venture]

custom models for the blocks

[unkempt torrent]

that will work ye

(I just dont have a block texture to work with)

biggest issue is just the light

but I think I just fixed that lol

have to doo slightly adjustments in math

[old venture]

oo, nice

[unkempt torrent]

can't do something against this shiny, if there's light on the other side of the block >.>

[old venture]

on a side note, has anyone found a use for static tags or are they just there for one very specific use case

[fleet kernel]

YIPEE

[wild cosmos]

im actually using it quite often, for examle to grab data from data scripts

or pre-parsing discord embed messages

[old venture]

kek

meta borked

is there any way i could contribute tag examples?

[foggy ember]

Yes, contributing meta examples is always really useful - https://github.com/DenizenScript/Denizen/pull/2408 here's an example of a PR adding examples

All of the meta is on the Denizen github repo, to can just make PRs to it

If you need help with working with git/making PRs in general we can help as well, ofc

[old venture]

yay i'll start doing it when im done with my current project

[raven barn]

+> YAY!!!

[unkempt torrent]

yay

[raven barn]

+> YAY!!!

[unkempt torrent]

thats cool

everyone can do simple custom blocks soon tm

[soft pewter]

oooo that's so cool

[soft pewter]

foreshadowing..? 👀

[unkempt torrent]

yeah doing some performance checks I wanna see when it break, but it doesnt seem to break

[graceful laurel]

famous last words

[unkempt torrent]

filling slowly a chunk with custom blocks

[quartz wraith]

what’s that supposed to mean

[old venture]

i made a proc that would give x points, equally distant from the center and from each other, and i was so happy and proud of what i did because it was my first real maths in denizen

then i remembered about the points_around_x, y and z tags

which do the exact same thing. 100x faster.

[graceful laurel]

lol rip

[old venture]

i was devastated LMFAO

[fleet kernel]

LOL

[unkempt torrent]

so if you ever wondered, 82k item_displays in a single chunk are definitely to many

[foggy ember]

Obviously that limit won't really be reached, but couldn't you add a visibility check before spawning them?

[low radish]

... what happens to your client trying to look at thousands of item displays?

[unkempt torrent]

1 fps

server is on 6ish tps

[foggy ember]

There are some fabric optimization mods that can help with that tbf

[unkempt torrent]

but the denizen script to update the light state of these blocks was still fast

[unkempt torrent]

I mean for the client, I could set the view_range of a display_entity lower, so they do not render them

but who would ever look at thousands of display blocks right?

right?

[foggy ember]

Oh I meant server-side, you can store that they are there but only spawn them in if they would actually be visible

[unkempt torrent]

ooo

have to look into that when we have properly implemented display entities

[grim quail]

What are you doing to make 82k item displays in a single chunk???

[unkempt torrent]

98,5k actually , wanted to test performance and see what happens

https://github.com/Hydroxycobalamin/BlockArchitect/tree/main working on a custom block creator thing with item displays

(code is on the dev branch)

[grim quail]

Bruh are you replacing an entire chunks worth of blocks with item displays.

[unkempt torrent]

just did that ye

[grim quail]

That is funny,.

The idea of psuedo custom blocks through item displays is nice though, it'd work in small doses and such.

Like making custom caves that the player can enter to mine true custom ores.

Hell with trimming maybe you can actually make true copper armor or something and tools.

[unkempt torrent]

copper armor is already possible with ressource pack and core shaders no?

[grim quail]

I'd imagine with trimming it's a lot easier.

There are people like me who don't really understand shaders.

Or haven't looked into trying them yet.

[unkempt torrent]

OO TRIMMING the new minecraft feature

[grim quail]

Just speculation, I haven't actually tried trimming yet because I'm waiting for proper display entity support before completely moving over to 1.19.4

[summer fable]

is the script to this public? was going to do something like an interactable crossbow/catapult for a boss fight mechanic

also for anyone hosting with Bisect, they have a overwolf app that creates a console overlay for you that can be toggled by a hotkey

[grim quail]

That's kind of interesting.

That reminds me of a gmod addon called EPOE that would spit out console outputs to the player if they had permission.

https://github.com/Metastruct/EPOE

I like stuff like that.

[summer fable]

yeah its super nice bc sometime i'm forced to work on just my laptop without my other monitors

so not having to tab out is a small but nice feature

[grim quail]

Do you not run it in windowed mode?

[old venture]

is there any spiral generator script

the only ones i can do take like 200ms to run :(

[dusky dust]

what type of spiral

u can just do points_around_y and then in the loop or whatever increase the y by one each iteration and boom you have a spiral

[old venture]

i was actually thinking of horizontally diagonal spirals

like just a cheat code - make spiral

but ah i'll make it a post tomorrow

[low night]

Still possible

[dusky dust]

then just do the same i did but instead of going up going forward

and instead of around y, do around or z

[fleet kernel]

ill write it for you right now:

spiral:
  type: task
  script:
    - foreach <player.location.points_around_y[radius=5;points=50]> as:point:
      - playeffect effect:cloud at:<[point].add[0,1,0]> offset:0

[dusky dust]

taht's wrong

[fleet kernel]

how

[dusky dust]

ill let you figure it out yourself

[fleet kernel]

oh

oh wait you need the uh x/z offset no?

dang it lemee find my old spiral

- foreach <player.location.points_around_y[radius=5;points=50]> as:point:
        - playeffect effect:heart at:<[point].up[<[loop_index].div[25]>]> offset:0 visibility:100
        - wait 1t

this is right no?

[dusky dust]

for going upwards, yes

id use .above though

[low night]

Really depends on what they want

I'd rotate the pitch and yaw however you'd like and go forward for every repetition

To effectively shoot the spiral to wherever you'd like

Would make for an interesting custom item attack

[rose harbor]

When I define a flag for a player - flag player current_rewards_chests_looted how can I remove this flag from all players when I issued a special command?

[foggy ember]

!makepost

[weary moth]

Info: makepost

If you have a support question, please make a forum post for it!

"But it's just a yes/no question!"
We hear this from users quite often, and, frankly, it almost never is just a yes/no question - many seemingly simple questions lead to long answers or complex debugging or interesting discussions or...

"But you've probably gotten this question before and have the answer prepared"
All the more reason to use forum posts! When you're typing the title, it auto-searches existing posts, and thus if you're asking a repeat question, you'll instantly find the prior time it was asked, and the answer it had then, before you even press enter on your post!

"But it's not worth bothering"
Good news: it takes almost no more effort to make a post than to type in a channel! It's really really easy!

"But I don't want to annoy the helpers"
A forum post won't annoy us! We prefer it! Most of us don't get pinged or anything, it's fine!

[spiral yew]

When you rubber duck debug yourself into and out of several problems consecutively

[spiral yew]

If anyone is curious how to make an NPC sleep, falling backwards, relative to the direction a player is facing, this is the math.

        - define calculated_location <player.location.with_yaw[<[calculated_yaw]>]>```

[thorn bone]

Isn't it just <element[270].sub[<player.location.yaw>]>?

[spiral yew]

element[270] was throwing an error saying it's not a decimal

and 270 doesn't exist internally, the game only goes up to 180 I think. So I just used -90

180 wraps around to negatives

denizen / the game handles it correctly though, just shows up at -90, so I used -90

[thorn bone]

I don't think <player.location.yaw> could ever be negative

[spiral yew]

Like I said I was basically doing all the testing from in-game and all the numbers in-game are from -180-180 for whatever reason.

You very well may be correct, I don't know. All I know is it works 😛

which means i sleep

[old venture]

avoiding somalia kek

[old venture]

me when i think i'm dealing with a map of lists but it's actually lists of lists and now i have to rewrite everything

wtf was i up to yesterday

what the fuck is a 57.295798

[graceful laurel]

lmao

w precise calculations

[old venture]

oh

found out what it is

if you divide 360 by that it returns pi doubled

holy shit it's actually really precise

[low night]

Call nasa

[spiral yew]

For some reason I was getting an error trying to do element[x].mul[y] saying it wasn't a decimal last night

I thought that was how element worked... guess I did something stupid.

Was messing around with animations on repeat, sleep has some weird behavior haha. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/zzl4x0fgt2fyqwb/javaw_2023-04-08_20-19-23.mp4

goblin mode

https://tenor.com/bpkPI.gif

[old venture]

YO WAIT

can you pass 1 block tall holes with that?

[fleet kernel]

woahh new denizen tech

[spiral yew]

@old venture I don't know. I'll check.

[low radish]

you could <element[180].div[<util.pi>]> or something so it actually makes sense and also is default more precise

and is equally performant too cause that tag will static cache

[spiral yew]

@old venture https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/a1az0kz1dekaujg/javaw_2023-04-08_20-38-07.mp4

Unlike using a fake barrier block over the players head you can jump at full height and stuff.

It's interesting.

[fleet kernel]

its new tech

[spiral yew]

tosleep:
    debug: true
    type: command
    name: sleep
    description: Go to sleep
    usage: /sleep
    script:
    - repeat 100:
        - wait 1t
        - animate <player> animation:sleep```

Saw someone suggest the repeat method for... something else. I think it was gliding? Tried it with this just to see. Since I'm currently working on a sleeping plugin.

[old venture]

oh thanks i was hurting my brain trying to get the right way to get that value

[old venture]

huh, weird but cool

[spiral yew]

Yeah, for sure. Might be nice for a prophunt minigame.

After I figure out display entities... and blockbench...

[old venture]

https://tenor.com/view/fumino-happy-cute-sad-anime-gif-14649612

[spiral yew]

basically

[old venture]

lmfao

[pastel field]

Don’t forget the disguise command lol

[old venture]

imagine doing an entire prophunt minigame but forgetting to disguise the players LMFAO

[graceful laurel]

me at the local scientist convention (im lost)

[foggy gorge]

me at the local hospital explaining how to properly dispose of your blood (im wrong)

[soft pewter]

me after writing the most smart looking word for my essay (I used a thesaurus)

[old venture]

unapologetically

[soft pewter]

notwithstanding

[foggy gorge]

notwithsitting

[pulsar cloak]

i know this is old but, isn't there a scene from harry potter that has a door opening like this?

[graceful laurel]

yeah that door in the clip is inspired by Harry Potter

diagon alley

[pulsar cloak]

yeahyeah

[spiral yew]

D: https://i.imgur.com/wmqE2rE.png

[grim quail]

They're just students, made of cream.

Just like how toby fox is covered in foam.

Like adventure time.

[low night]

or that one character from family guy

[quartz wraith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/477340871927398400/986304768785928192/95EEE954-3F03-4F86-9CE5-49E85200B9CA.gif

[low radish]

aight time to delete the entire queue word generator thing

fun experiment guys were wrapping it up now goodbye

[quartz wraith]

decent response

[old venture]

yo im thinking of doing chess in denizen

should i follow this logic?

/s

[graceful laurel]

lol

[low night]

Perfect

[pastel field]

Yeah just make if else statements for every state the board could be in

Easy

[graceful laurel]

only 10^40 moves, not too bad :)

[fleet kernel]

gonna steal your idea first

get wrecked

hahahaha

[old venture]

no!!!!!

[fleet kernel]

wait could be a #bounties idea maybe

[old venture]

bounties: make chess

idk

[old venture]

re: #bounties message

LE KNOOK IS COMING

[wild cosmos]

this is extremely bad practice 🙅🤦 you should use match statement instead of elif checks 🤦

[summer fable]

has anyone made an attempt on search bar before and if so is there a link to it somewhere

on a*

[sinful spindle]

to search for what lol

[summer fable]

like searching a gui full of items

[sinful spindle]

oh

[summer fable]

yeahh

wanna try it myself but a reference can never hurt

[sinful spindle]

make a post

i have one possible suggestion for you

[summer fable]

my bad, didnt know post were for that kind of stuff

will do now

done

[spiral yew]

Would a step slowly debug option for script containers be a good feature request

I find myself adding waits in sometimes to slow it down, but curious if it would be useful as a feature request

[fleet kernel]

no because you can literally debug it into a pastebin ans review it from there

[low night]

you can scroll to it in console as well

[old venture]

yeah just, debug: true and read the console

[quartz wraith]

me trying to read the console while my script runs 5 times a tick doing 600 operations

[low night]

skill issue tbh

[wild cosmos]

are there any benefits of modifying linked player for the queue rather than using definition? ex:

- define __player <server.match_player[<[player_name]>]>

instead of just

- define player <server.match_player[<[player_name]>]>

[unkempt torrent]

!makepost

[weary moth]

Info: makepost

If you have a support question, please make a forum post for it!

"But it's just a yes/no question!"
We hear this from users quite often, and, frankly, it almost never is just a yes/no question - many seemingly simple questions lead to long answers or complex debugging or interesting discussions or...

"But you've probably gotten this question before and have the answer prepared"
All the more reason to use forum posts! When you're typing the title, it auto-searches existing posts, and thus if you're asking a repeat question, you'll instantly find the prior time it was asked, and the answer it had then, before you even press enter on your post!

"But it's not worth bothering"
Good news: it takes almost no more effort to make a post than to type in a channel! It's really really easy!

"But I don't want to annoy the helpers"
A forum post won't annoy us! We prefer it! Most of us don't get pinged or anything, it's fine!

[wild cosmos]

oops

[unkempt torrent]

https://forum.denizenscript.com/resources/item-display-editor.136/ @graceful laurel

[graceful laurel]

W

[unkempt torrent]

O

[graceful laurel]

R

[low night]

M

[wild cosmos]

S

[old venture]

may i introduce you to the linked_player mechanism

[wild cosmos]

no

[old venture]

you're already introduced. can you deny a hurricane from passing through your house?

[graceful laurel]

[unkempt torrent]

https://github.com/Hydroxycobalamin/BlockArchitect/issues/2
Looking for help adding block samples and resource pack. @foggy gorge forgot it several times now :(

[foggy gorge]

yeah ive been on and off dying sick and just cant get to it mentally yet sorry

[summer fable]

what do you guys use to map out particles

like not the code or anything

like just the planning phase

[dusky dust]

my head

[fleet kernel]

a software

it turns images into particles

and generates a denizen list

very useful

[summer fable]

leak it

[fleet kernel]

its already leaked lol

lemee pull up the github

[summer fable]

tyyy

[fleet kernel]

https://github.com/Baivo/Particle-Converter-Denizen

you gotta compile yourself

[summer fable]

ty

[low night]

I play around with random patterns until I find something interesting

Then bag it for later

[old venture]

holy shit baivo is actually smart

[fleet kernel]

i love baivo

whyd he leave again

[old venture]

HE LEFT?

WHAT

[low radish]

huh. Yeah. I don't see any reason to explain that in their message history

last posts prior to leaving were in february talking about vectors n wotnot

[old venture]

wtf baivo come back we love you

[calm marsh]

wait what

What "infinite potions" are?

Oooh, now I understand, that new timer that can be endless

[wild cosmos]

does list insert action (->) always add new entry to the last position of the list?

[fleet kernel]

!makepost

[weary moth]

Info: makepost

If you have a support question, please make a forum post for it!

"But it's just a yes/no question!"
We hear this from users quite often, and, frankly, it almost never is just a yes/no question - many seemingly simple questions lead to long answers or complex debugging or interesting discussions or...

"But you've probably gotten this question before and have the answer prepared"
All the more reason to use forum posts! When you're typing the title, it auto-searches existing posts, and thus if you're asking a repeat question, you'll instantly find the prior time it was asked, and the answer it had then, before you even press enter on your post!

"But it's not worth bothering"
Good news: it takes almost no more effort to make a post than to type in a channel! It's really really easy!

"But I don't want to annoy the helpers"
A forum post won't annoy us! We prefer it! Most of us don't get pinged or anything, it's fine!

[old venture]

!tias

[weary moth]

Info: tias

Try it and see!

If somebody pulled this up for you, you're probably asking a question of the public channel that's easier and faster to figure out by just attempting your idea in-game and looking at the result of that attempt.

[old venture]

lmao

get double info'd

[wild cosmos]

doesnt mean it always adds entry to the last index

[old venture]

idk, but you can see that for yourself in under a minute

[wild cosmos]

you can try it few times but that could be just your luck

so its better to ask than just guess

[old venture]

wot

make post to discuss better there

[wild cosmos]

its literally solved already

[old venture]

oh didnt know

[low night]

So, you tried it and saw?

[unkempt torrent]

I'll gladly answer your question if you make a post

[wild cosmos]

^

made a post

got an answer

[unkempt torrent]

oo purrfect

[old venture]

wait can you tell me whats the answer bc i dont remember it

[wild cosmos]

yes I tried it few times but I had to make sure its the right answer

so I asked

[wild cosmos]

!makepost

[weary moth]

Info: makepost

If you have a support question, please make a forum post for it!

"But it's just a yes/no question!"
We hear this from users quite often, and, frankly, it almost never is just a yes/no question - many seemingly simple questions lead to long answers or complex debugging or interesting discussions or...

"But you've probably gotten this question before and have the answer prepared"
All the more reason to use forum posts! When you're typing the title, it auto-searches existing posts, and thus if you're asking a repeat question, you'll instantly find the prior time it was asked, and the answer it had then, before you even press enter on your post!

"But it's not worth bothering"
Good news: it takes almost no more effort to make a post than to type in a channel! It's really really easy!

"But I don't want to annoy the helpers"
A forum post won't annoy us! We prefer it! Most of us don't get pinged or anything, it's fine!

[old venture]

HAHAHAHA I WAS WAITING FOR IT

nah dw i do know the answer

[unkempt torrent]

#1096451260951040052 message

[graceful laurel]

you sure? in case you don’t-

!makepost

[unkempt torrent]

jesus christ there are so many discord threads

[weary moth]

Info: makepost

If you have a support question, please make a forum post for it!

"But it's just a yes/no question!"
We hear this from users quite often, and, frankly, it almost never is just a yes/no question - many seemingly simple questions lead to long answers or complex debugging or interesting discussions or...

"But you've probably gotten this question before and have the answer prepared"
All the more reason to use forum posts! When you're typing the title, it auto-searches existing posts, and thus if you're asking a repeat question, you'll instantly find the prior time it was asked, and the answer it had then, before you even press enter on your post!

"But it's not worth bothering"
Good news: it takes almost no more effort to make a post than to type in a channel! It's really really easy!

"But I don't want to annoy the helpers"
A forum post won't annoy us! We prefer it! Most of us don't get pinged or anything, it's fine!

[old venture]

mfw i jokingly ask for help in the help discord and i receive help:

[unkempt torrent]

pleaseclosed so many but there are still many

[unkempt torrent]

oh my god I think I found an end

[pulsar cloak]

yay

[raven barn]

+> YAY!!!

[spiral yew]

Just learned you can adjust entity mechanisms while telling commands which entity to use with entity[mechanism=state]

Is this explained anywhere in the docs or what is it called?

[old venture]

can u show an example?

[unkempt torrent]

Skull included an example

[unkempt torrent]

In the guide yes

[old venture]

til recipes are treated as advancements

[foggy gorge]

re: my last thread, somewhere
i got it to work and apparently have no issues with moving the block and it failing to render

@pastel field ^ incase you wanted to know that i didnt have to resort to the teleporting nonsense lol

nothing to see here, just walking my pet obsidian block

[spiral yew]

Are there any other entities like Shulkers that have some kind of collision that the player interacts with as if it were a solid block?

[fleet kernel]

https://canary.discord.com/channels/315163488085475337/1093101355754852423

[spiral yew]

I'm not sure that they can collide with the players physics body so I don't think that's necessarily what I'm looking for.

Display Entities that is.

[spiral yew]

Is it possible for that block to collide with the player and push them around as if it were a piston or a block above them? Forcing them to crawl, etc.

Or does it not have any collision at all / not possible to give it a collider

[foggy gorge]

it has zero collision but uh, you can always check if a player is in that block like any other block would be and just give them a little nudge towards the closest exit of that block

[spiral yew]

Well specifically I'm looking for something that is not a solid block acting like a solid block

The closest I've come across is a shulker entity

[foggy gorge]

what exactly are you trying to do with it?

[spiral yew]

Make the player crawl without the player seeing what's making them crawl.

[foggy gorge]

/ex showfake BARRIER <player.location.up[2]> looks like it does it, but eh

[spiral yew]

Only problem is that barrier is aligned to the world grid, in retrospect so is the shulker box but it can overlap with doorframes.

It would be cool if it was possible to get the shulker to go off grid

https://tenor.com/brvMk.gif

I assume the kinds of collisions that make you crawl are the kind that need to be aligned to the grid though, so who knows.

[old venture]

i think players can also crawl under a invisible shulker box

im unsure tho, ill test it

wait nvm, u can see their heads

[low night]

Boats are collidable

[spiral yew]

oooh boats.

Maybe the answer.

omg boats work

but i cant make the boat invisible

[low night]

Pretty sure you can use the mechanism for that

[spiral yew]

Nope, I can open a thread discussing it though if anyone has ideas.

[foggy gorge]

well it took me a minute to remember how i did this productively the first time but my schematic preview stuff is working great for my bEdit

[spiral yew]

Neat.

[foggy gorge]

and it works now! dYeet!

and then removing it with my //set command was just chefs kiss

i love denizen so much

[fleet kernel]

THE SOUNDS

OH MY GOD

[foggy gorge]

RIGHT

oh wait

i thought you meant the second one lol

the sound of the different blocks making their own breaking sound was ecstatic for me

[soft pewter]

WOAH

THATS AWESOME

[foggy gorge]

not as awesome as contributing to denizen itself its people like YOOOU who make it a thing lol

[fleet kernel]

what if people want it instant

[gilded dew]

what is the denizen equivalent of persistent data? so that an item can be updated from a script (to have a new name, for example), and any instance of that item will be updated?

[foggy ember]

!makepost

[weary moth]

Info: makepost

If you have a support question, please make a forum post for it!

"But it's just a yes/no question!"
We hear this from users quite often, and, frankly, it almost never is just a yes/no question - many seemingly simple questions lead to long answers or complex debugging or interesting discussions or...

"But you've probably gotten this question before and have the answer prepared"
All the more reason to use forum posts! When you're typing the title, it auto-searches existing posts, and thus if you're asking a repeat question, you'll instantly find the prior time it was asked, and the answer it had then, before you even press enter on your post!

"But it's not worth bothering"
Good news: it takes almost no more effort to make a post than to type in a channel! It's really really easy!

"But I don't want to annoy the helpers"
A forum post won't annoy us! We prefer it! Most of us don't get pinged or anything, it's fine!

[gilded dew]

alright thanks will do :)

[foggy ember]

Yay

[raven barn]

+> YAY!!!

[old venture]

oh my god this is amazing

please tell me you will make that script available in resources

[lament verge]

Good lord, behr! its amazing! Any chances you'd share this in showcase? (no pressure or anything)

[old venture]

hell nah i'll pressure him like a hydraulic press to share that in showcase when done

[graceful laurel]

put him under a legal contract to make him have to share it :))

[old venture]

i really like this soundboard thing :D is this like available or unreleased for public

[graceful laurel]

the former

[summer fable]

do yall think itd be possible to replace the crossbow noises for custom crossbows

trying to put it together in my head but im too stupid i believe

also not familiar with mc sounds

[graceful laurel]

probably yeah

[old venture]

definitely yeah

[foggy gorge]

then they can find their own server cause they dont need instant when they get 5^3 to 12^3 edit ranges keke

[foggy gorge]

apadamide made one available on the resource page; it's called dSoundboard i think - i stole his proc, but i have a lot of other misc features i use, like popping out a music disk to play/share the sound with other players, favoriting sounds, and clicking to narrate a on_click[- playsound <player> sound:<[sound]>].type[copy_to_clipboard] because i use it for scripting mainly

[old venture]

i have that one already, but as you mentioned yours has more features

and its also a bit outdated

[foggy gorge]

oh, i mean, i'd share it if you want - but im still tweaking some stuff on it, if youd want the updated one later also

[calm marsh]

Recently watched Doctor4t, so I got few questions. Why did you guys choose to make server without mods? What benefits and downsides mods have compared to vanilla? And what I can't figure out, how youtubers like Doctor4t host server with mods and to him it's perfectly fine?

[grim quail]

What?

[old venture]

what?

[grim quail]

Are you asking why a lot of scripters choose to use denizen over actual mods?

[calm marsh]

Yes, I got language barrier a little bit

[grim quail]

I think you'll get different answers.

[old venture]

because denizen is easier to get into than java, ez answer

[calm marsh]

Good point

[grim quail]

A lot of people like denizen because of how easy it is to learn, but I enjoy it because of hotloading scripts and content.

I believe if you know what you're doing with a java plugin you can reload the plugin ( with their own reload command, not bukkit's version. )

But I'm pretty much already invested in this, learning another language isn't really what I want to do myself personally.

[calm marsh]

I heard that mods are VERY performance heavy for servers, but then how some youtubers host modded servers?

[grim quail]

I think that varies on the mod and it's content size, how they programmed it, etc.

Too many variables.

[calm marsh]

Hmm, sounds logical

[grim quail]

Obviously with some mod packs that add in a large amount it's going to be a bit more demanding with so many things being crammed into it. But that's to be said with a lot of large scope projects in general, so many things running/being done at once.

I've taken the decision to make my server about entirely in denizen and because of that I've grown stupidly ambitious, leaving me with a lot to do. That's not a bad thing because I have complete control over everything, but everyone is different in what they want.

[calm marsh]

So it's like... you can have bunch of mods, but too many will destroy your server basically?

I just had some experience with modded server, and that was awful

[grim quail]

I think your experience will vary, because each mod will be different in how they operate, and how they play with each other.

[old venture]

i mean. every if the mod is very heavy. just have a beefier server. sometimes it just comes to a one-up situation

[foggy gorge]

it's kind of like food. there's different types of food, and different foods have different ingredients.
if you put a cup or two of oregano in your lasagna, it's probably going to taste bad.
it goes for saying with mods; if it does too much, or if you just cram every ingredient in your house into a pot, it might have problems.

we all just have different preferences, and some foods can do things that others can't

some can make you shit your brains out, and some can make your tongue burn to the depths of hell from spice

there's cons and pros to both

[calm marsh]

Hmm, I think I understand what you mean

Well then

Gonna stick with denizen

[foggy gorge]

i too love lasagna

[calm marsh]

I just saw that custom model data armor in mods and instantly got sad that I can't do that without mods

[rigid idol]

Discord Levels Bot

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[calm marsh]

(thanks Mojang)

[foggy gorge]

well, we have client mods to fallback on that; it's just one extra step

resource packs are fantastic

theyre a huge step into what mods are capable of themselves

[calm marsh]

Well, optifine could do some things

But I would be pretty happy if I could just make this cool armor with multi layers and stuff

BUT I CAN'T

without mods I mean

I just don't understand why they won't add this, I mean, bedrock has 3D armor

[grim quail]

Hopefully in 1.20 we won't need that.

With armor trimming being server sided.

[foggy ember]

If you mean custom armor, you can at the very least do basic ones with shaders, and in 1.20 we'll have armor trims ^

Hmm, I wonder how would making custom armor by attaching an item display entity with a custom model to a player work

Making it actually ride the player*

[calm marsh]

I know about leather armor and core shaders with that, but I meant something like that

Look at the arms for example

[calm marsh]

You can do things for body of the player, but tracking the animation of hands and legs is... oof...

[foggy ember]

Ye, true - although for something like what you posted there it might work?

[calm marsh]

But I heard that you CAN actually make custom model data with trims and core shader magic

[calm marsh]

Well lets say the helmet is the item on head - so yeah

But these things on arms...

Well

Uhh, they can be static

[foggy gorge]

yeah, but doesn't 1.20 add 256^3 server-sided customizable armor?

[foggy ember]

It looks like these things are aligned with the player's body?

[calm marsh]

Ok maybe I didn't make myself clear. Armor trims make 2d texture on armor, what I'm talking about is totally custom model on the whole armor, we kinda can't do that in vanilla, still. For example that

You can attach that to body as item display, yes, but you can't animate that

Or you can, but you need to make animation for all of the situations player encounter, like jumping, swimming, walking side ways and etc.

[calm marsh]

They are alined to player's arms actually, that armor is from Ice and Fire

[calm marsh]

Also if I remember correctly - you can actually make custom trims

[low night]

I'd say one of the biggest advantages is people are less willing to play modded servers due to the setup. A lot of players will refuse to join a server they don't know much about if they have to jump through all these hoops to even join

Plugins like denizen almost never require extra steps to join a server

And if they do (shaders/ resource packs) the setup is minimal and relatively common knowledge for players to complete it

[strange python]

[20:36:29 INFO]: Comparing if e@interaction[custom_name_visible=false;freeze_duration=d@0s] CONTAINS interaction ... false 
[20:36:29 INFO]: No part of the if command passed, running ELSE block.

Shouldn't this contain interaction, or does it only match full words?

[low night]

!makepost

[weary moth]

Info: makepost

If you have a support question, please make a forum post for it!

"But it's just a yes/no question!"
We hear this from users quite often, and, frankly, it almost never is just a yes/no question - many seemingly simple questions lead to long answers or complex debugging or interesting discussions or...

"But you've probably gotten this question before and have the answer prepared"
All the more reason to use forum posts! When you're typing the title, it auto-searches existing posts, and thus if you're asking a repeat question, you'll instantly find the prior time it was asked, and the answer it had then, before you even press enter on your post!

"But it's not worth bothering"
Good news: it takes almost no more effort to make a post than to type in a channel! It's really really easy!

"But I don't want to annoy the helpers"
A forum post won't annoy us! We prefer it! Most of us don't get pinged or anything, it's fine!

[calm marsh]

Yeah, that was the original reason for me actually

[summer fable]

would 3d modeled trees be unrealistic on server performance

im not exactly sure how model size and scale effects that stuff

[low radish]

client* performance yes

server not really

server doesn't have to render the model

[summer fable]

so servers just telling client that they are there

essentially

?

[old venture]

yeah

[grim quail]

Today I finished my gui menu for modifying holograms, while I could probably add more options ( And I will need to when denizen can support background colors. ) I think this is fine as is. I'm not letting you modify the lines/text itself in the menu because the anvil is too short to include everything you might want in it.

[soft pewter]

cool!!

[old venture]

some1 gib cool idea do make

[foggy gorge]

bee gun

• smoke beehive
• extract honey
• collect high bees
• ???
• load bee gun
• fire bees at unexpecting victim
• profit

[old venture]

oooo nice idea

behr now give me a challenging task

all ive been doing in denizen is just more of the same... i need to add some spice to the lasagna or it gets bland

and ive been doing a resistance to damage types/weapons system so i need smth real challenging

[quartz wraith]

solve inventory management

[old venture]

i am this close to !vagueing you 🤏

[lament verge]

procedural maze generation with teleporter traps.
after x amount of period, path that leads to the end incrementally changes/reveals so that players would still have a chance if they can't solve it

[old venture]

OOO I LIKE THIS I LIKE THIS A LOT

alright that'll be my new objective from now on

[lament verge]

glad I could give you a good idea

[fleet kernel]

minecraft girlfriend

[quartz wraith]

purposefully vague, you asked for ideas, im not commissioning you

[foggy gorge]

huh, i wrote a quick script to determine the percentage chances of individual items dropping when holding a tool with different levels of fortune, cause the wiki didn't quite look right to me (and because i added fortune 4 and 5)

interesting results

[low night]

Shouldn't those rates for the seeds add up to 100%

[foggy gorge]

i forgot to multiply by 100 lmao

er wait

[low night]

Unless 0 takes up the rest of the percentage

[foggy gorge]

nooo, it always drops at least one

uh

thanks for pointing that out

[low night]

Oh

Hmm

That is interesting though

[foggy gorge]

huh, i dont even know what i did wrong

!haste

[weary moth]

Info: haste

Help us help you by pasting your script to https://paste.denizenscript.com/New/Script and linking it back here.

[foggy gorge]

my scripts a solid spaghetti mess lol
https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/109003

but im preeeetty sure i did the math right? maybe i missed something

[wild cosmos]

im lost D:

[foggy gorge]

yeah i didn't make it very clean lmao but i simplified a bad output

1 / 10 != 100% lol

which,
<[frequency]><&a>, which is <&b><[frequency].div[<[density]>].round_to_precision[0.0001].mul[100]>
frequency has to be 1 there on fortune level when it drops 1
1 / 10 is definitely 0.1, rounding didnt change that, and multiplying by 100 is just 10 which makes sense but in the script i borked it somewhere else apparently

ill figure it out

[foggy gorge]

i took a nap but i figured it out
https://paste.denizenscript.com/View/109019

[graceful laurel]

pog

[foggy gorge]

now that i know the probability results, im comfortable adding in my new strappy bumps; shoes for hoes
enchantable with the different levels of fortune, to increase the number of crops resulted from when on player changes farmland into dirt and there's crops above them

[graceful laurel]

farming simulator

oh behr have you gotten a chance to make that docs website thingy

[foggy gorge]

nope :>

i mean, yes i've gotten a chance, but i hadnt done that in that opportunity lol

like for example, i currently have that time to do so, but instead im currently about to look up how to open this coconut i found at the store

but mcmonkey gave us a method of doing that via forking his site tho

[graceful laurel]

oof

[foggy gorge]

results are in: wasn't that great tasting

2/10

[old venture]

you can open a coconut by forking monkey's site?

[foggy gorge]

yes, it drives the fork directly into the coconut that is also a tree mcmonkey has once climbed

[lament verge]

might've been stale.
There's a coconut farm near us and they taste sweet all the time. as long as its within 2 weeks after picking

[foggy gorge]

oooh, interesting

[foggy gorge]

have you guys seen that dude’s project making a 2d playable game in minecraft? godlander i think?

[low night]

Yeah, wicked

Makes me want to try something like that

[foggy gorge]

yee, godlander

i want to do something like this but with arcade boxes ingame

spectating an armor stand staring at the screen of the arcade box, using ‘player steers entity’ to control it

like mariooooo

[blissful zephyr]

!e entity steers

[weary moth]

Cannot Find Searched Event

Unknown event.

Possible Confusion

Did you mean to search for player steers entity?

[weary moth]

Event: player steers entity

Group

Player

Event Lines

player steers entity player steers <entity>

Triggers

every tick that a player is controlling a vehicle.

Has Player

Always. - this adds switches flagged:<flag name> + permission:<node>, in addition to the <player> link.

Context

<context.entity> returns the EntityTag being steered by the player.
<context.sideways> returns an ElementTag(Decimal) where a positive number signifies leftward movement.
<context.forward> returns an ElementTag(Decimal) where a positive number signifies forward movement.
<context.jump> returns an ElementTag(Boolean) that signifies whether the player is attempting to jump with the entity.
<context.dismount> returns an ElementTag(Boolean) that signifies whether the player is attempting to dismount.

Has Known Location

True - this adds switches in:<area> + location_flagged:<flag name>.

Cancellable

True - this adds <context.cancelled> and determines cancelled + cancelled:false.

[blissful zephyr]

the forward would be useless but the sideways and jump would totes work

[old venture]

wha this event exists?

[old venture]

what do you mean by that? can the steer event fire while a player is spectating smth?

[blissful zephyr]

it fires every tick a player steers an entity

sooo actually it wouldn’t fire at all for spectating, heck

you right

but that’s fine, could just mount an armor stand still

i forget if there are other keys used in mario? i haven’t played in like two decades

i have a switch but the classic games require the membership smh my head head

i’ve got tons of arcade box models

but i should be semi-original, maybe replace mario with steve? :kekw:

[foggy ember]

Probably should, otherwise Nintendo will hunt your server down for sport

[blissful zephyr]

i’d get shot down quick if i had this lmao

especially with mario just becoming a huge hit recently

[spiral yew]

I think the documentation on the burn command is wrong, because I set it to a duration of 0 and it just ignites me forever instead of basically turning the burning off.

[blissful zephyr]

!c burn

[weary moth]

Command: Burn

Group

entity

Syntax

burn [<entity>|...] (duration:<value>)

Short Description

Sets a list of entities on fire.

Description

Burn will set a list of entities on fire.
Just specify a list of entities (or a single entity) and optionally, a duration.
Normal mobs and players will see damage afflicted, but NPCs will block damage from a burn unless 'vulnerable'.
Since this command sets the total time of fire, it can also be used to cancel fire on a burning entity by specifying a duration of 0.
Specifying no duration will result in a 5 second burn.

[spiral yew]

https://i.imgur.com/4bEhVAm.png

[blissful zephyr]

might need to make a thread with a debug

[spiral yew]

Yeah it's probably just misdocumented or something odd

[blissful zephyr]

ha, it does say d@0s (forever) kek

nah that’s likely a bug

a bug thread will help get it fixed

[spiral yew]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/p5iil5cy95590vn/javaw_2023-04-20_12-01-41.mp4

😎

someone tells me they are softlocked and im like what do you mean softlocked

then i go light on fire and this happens

I made a safemode for my bad players on my smp

or so i thought

[blissful zephyr]

i dont think the burn command is going to spam your chat or play purple particle effects

make thread

[spiral yew]

No, but it is by proxy of not extinguishing lol

[blissful zephyr]

im going cAMPING for like three days and dont know if im going to cope with not writing denizen that long

[old venture]

PLAYABLE CONTENT

[spiral yew]

lmao

yeah pretty much

The worst part is this basically makes me have to update my production server because it was fixed by putting the script on staging

See, I tested this all on staging, pushed to live, and it breaks.