#Crossbow Cannon

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lyric mica
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-# Idk what to name it so you guys handle that, lol

I'd like to suggest a tactical weapon called "Crossbow Cannon" or something, this cannon would be probably be bigger than deck cannons but it acts like the basic small and large cannons, its arc is similar to flak battery (or flak array)

Its projectile is something like a big and long arrow/spear, if the cannon shoots this projectile at enemy ship's buildings, the projectile gets unstuck if that building got destroyed

The debuff that the projectile gives depends on what building it got stucked into...

Ex: if the projectile hits...

  • a hull or anything, it adds weight to the ship, making it heavier and slower
  • a shield projector, it block shield arcs (specifically for large shield projector) and decreases shield's HP, the projectile is a "solid" thing
  • weapons/building with arc (cannons, pd, blaster) will get "stuck" meaning they cant aim and act like Railguns or ion beams
  • a thruster/engine room, their efficiency is decreased as well

Just like I said, this is a tactical weapon so its more like EMP missile or disruptors, idk if this should deal a decent damage cuz its a very big spear/arrow.

Also, projectile travels in decent speeds and consumes 15~ ammos per shot, and some it "punctured" the ship, its a bit of AOE

What do you guys think? Would a ship being shot by a lot of spears/arrows would be funny?
-# This is inspired by Minecraft (if you got hit by an arrow)

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But idk what the debuffs should be, might be overpowered...

quasi tendon
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harpoons*

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probably

lyric mica
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HARPOONS

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-# woops, got way too excited there...

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Im a Ishmael fan here...
-# from Limbus company

quasi tendon
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that bastard is still alive

indigo field
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i think i sugested harpoons one time... more so as a physical tractor beam then a weapon tho

warm cloak
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a merging of those two would be cool though imo. You grapple the enemy ship with your harpoon which happens to block the enemies ls arc so you can get shots through. If it is a actual physics object then that could also block mechanisms such as locking.

lyric mica
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Good one, I like the combination of the two...

indigo field
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that is a good idea

tepid whale
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How about rather than a harpoon, it's something like a physical version of disruptors?

Mid range, low damage, high penetrative power that disable the room it passes through and landed on.

Probably also change the Fire Extinguisher name into Multi-purpose Tool. Because you don't just deal with fire but also damaged equipment lore wise.

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And just like disruptors, it can be destroyed by Flak

quasi tendon
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that's just a different weapon, also what's the point of a weapon that's literally the same thing as disruptor and does everything disruptor does but consumes bullets shrug

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btw @lyric mica is it a deck weapon?

gray radish
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Ngl

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Some large flechette launcher may be neat

tepid whale
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@quasi tendon Is it that different? I just thought that rather than having different effects on different buildings, why not just have one?

Disruptors only disable a building for a moment but what I suggest is to have the room permanently disabled until a crew "fix" it using the Fire Extinguisher. Sorry if it's not clear.

round sail
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if i had a nickel for every time someone suggested a harpoon i'd be rich

lyric mica
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The idea here it to implement debuffs that I haven't seen added (or im bland, idk) like making weapons why arcs cant aim but still able to shoot

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What disruptors does is to removes the power from buildings

lyric mica
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And making shields have a "hole" while still active

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Its long range

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Disruptors has a decent range

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Emp missile have to make it way to the enemy without being shotdown

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Crossbow cannon (or harpoon cannon, idk) why just aim straight on the ship, puncture the ship, and hope stuff is on your side
-# + without being shutdown

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The crossbow cannon uses large amounts of ammo instead EMP missle parts or batteries

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But idk

tepid whale
lyric mica
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Depends on how the harpoon is shot

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If its shot straight to the shield then it should create a small hole on the energy field

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But depends on the angle, it could be bigger

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Damn, its hard to explain things with text, lol

tepid whale
lyric mica
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Yes, but on small shield, idk if it should be affected? Cuz its pass through...

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Harpoons may be pirate ship's signature weapon 👀

tepid whale
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🏴‍☠️

lyric mica
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Ayooo, that could be a future buff of this cannon once boarding is implemented

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indigo field
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perhaps the harpoon could be modular like the chaingun and railgun, can add more segments to make it longer and have more rope, up to a certan point anyway

lyric mica
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Ooooo, been think of that yesterday (not gonna lie), but suggested this without rope thingy
-# maybe it pulls like tractor beam but with more physics?

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Wait...

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THIS CAN BE USED FOR LOCKING

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Ayo...

tepid whale
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Can't wait to build a fucking Megazord in cosmoteer

lyric mica
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With this cannon, it could possibly make locking easier

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lyric mica
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Should this have effect against railshun and ion beams?

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*railgun

lyric mica
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Bump! I really want this in the game... lol

indigo field
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same, i't'td be a fun thing to have

lyric mica
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It's unique enough to be considered as not bloat, lol

clever pebble
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the big problem with these is the "permanent" part
With EMPs you need to keep on shooting them to be effective and in some cases you need more to be effective at all (because there are countermeasures to them)

With this you could just have one or two and effectively brick certain parts with a single shot
I also don't really see what kind of "problem" this weapon solves or what role it is intended to have - you seem to suggest that it both does damage and supports (which EMPs do not do), so to balance it properly it would either have to deal no damage and have massive upkeep, or deal damage and have near no support purpose

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I personally do not like the medieval crossbow being added to space sim game that has, you know, RAILGUNS, but that is personal only so I don't include that in reasoning

lyric mica
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Maybe this could be a reserve idea once boarding came in?

tidal olive
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the projectile itself is like a missile and so it's especially vulnerable to excess PD or flak, and travels at the same speed as a deck cannon shot or slower

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accounting for the harpoon feature, it is very slow compared to just using a tractor beam (as expected) and needs it's own crew to switch locations to rope ships back

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oh and the final negative :

N O A M M O S T O R A G E

clever pebble
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so then its just useless because its DPS is bad (due to long draw times), self-recoil, no storage, excessive vulnerability to PD and high crew/maintenance needs
And on top of that as soon as the block its attached to is destroyed the projectile is gone

lyric mica
quasi tendon
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silly

lyric mica
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-# I didn't see that coming, woops

quasi tendon
tidal olive
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these are just my ideas to give it some sort of functional tradeoff

clever pebble