User Owned Stations

[jaunty birch]

I was thinking that it would be fun if you could build your own station to trade with NPCs like other faction stations. it would bring a lot to the later-game.

Some Additional Detail Ideas

• Put the station on autopilot (just have it act like other faction stations)
• NPCs looking for a trade would automatically come to your station sometimes in order to trade (you wouldent have to seek them out for a trade) as you could put the station on the map with a special setting or something to tell the game that this is a station and not a ship
• You would have to be active (so no AFKing for free money) and in the system (For performance) for the station to do anything
• A trading system where you would set prices and stuff but the price would have to be acceptable to the NPCs (so you couldent say like "100,000 for this one piece of ammo")

Some Balencing Ideas

• Putting the station in higher level system would give you higher value trading NPCs but make raids a big issue
• your already working on this but more dynamic trading would help balence this idea
• the NPCs would only come based on your reputation (so you couldent lure them in for the kill and get free stuff)
• Another way to balence this would be to put the functionality at a cost like blueprints (because i see this being a little too op earley-game) cause at that point in your gameplay you dont have much money

thanks for considering my idea i thought it might give a little more to later-game and to NPC interaction i dont expect walt to really see this specifically but i thought i might just put it out there

[gray sedge]

this stuff is already planned mate, especially with other features that make this more viable

?roadmap

[oak rose]

Please check out the Early Access Roadmap! http://roadmap.cosmoteer.net/

[jaunty birch]

i dont see it

[next bane]

not that i know of, this is neither directly dynamic economy or shipyards

[modern cradle]

Yeah user-owned stations gets requested a lot but it's not on the official roadmap. The main issues are:

1. How to balance the game economy for user stations.
2. How to not make them bad for performance.

[jaunty birch]

I think it wouldent turn out so bad if we just dont get to run them if were out of the system for performance

Or if like it would seem like some trades happened but we dont actually run the entire system we just load the trades in when you join back the system

I understand that its hard to implement i just hope maby it happens

[north jackal]

Is there a way for modders to make it happen? From what I've been told I don't think there is but I'm not code wizard

[modern cradle]

not without modifying the actual game code

[runic hatch]

possible idea to make stations reasonable for the economy
Add a new room structure "trading hall" ||(could also be nammed something else if theres a better name for a more sci fi setting)||
for the trading halls functionality

• it will send out a "blip", all vessels within the region will know where it is (both friendly and hostile) ||(this will also attract pirets, or any factions you upset, that you need to defend against)||
• you can put add items inside the structure, set a "sell price", then friendly traders can choose for themselves if thats a fair price
• you can set a "buy" price to buy specific items off traders (along with a max buying budget so that you dont just go bankrupt)

the main balancing point here though, is that it acts as a big ol target for your enemy's to attack
so you need it to actually be defensible

[runic hatch]

alternatively
when "configurable ship ai" comes into play

beans requesting for player owned stations
would probably be satisfied if ship ai can

• mine asteroids/destroyed ships
• automatically transfer materials between player owned ships to player controlled ships

[zenith mantle]

Realistically, something like this would probably have to be thought about properly only after we have a dynamic economy. It's difficult to design player stations when we don't necessarily know how the dynamic economy will function on its own yet

[tranquil wharf]

plese dynamic economy soon, i must live my space trucking dream

[zenith mantle]

I want all the things soon

Unfortunately, we are limited by the human condition

[runic hatch]

yeah time to ponder would be good
though it is a popular suggestion, so a lot of people seem to want it

[tranquil wharf]

what would it take to join the team lmao like 50% joking maybe

[delicate mango]

a ship ai mode that goes around and trades with other ships would be cool

buying/selling on their terms so its not to op just a bit of automation

[runic hatch]

if there are balance concerns, could be confined with just your own player controlled ships
but yeah, automating trade would be fun~

[wary turret]

The problem with this is that if the player is smart enough to put the station within the sun's corona, the traders would just camp out right next to corona's border and has a potential to pushed themselves or by the player thus giving the player free rewards...

[tranquil wharf]

I mean... so?

[wary turret]

Idk

[runic hatch]

simple solution to that one

if (station.distance <= x) {
station.valid = 0
}

measure the distance the station is from the sun
if that value is too small, set it to be an invalid station

i feel like the biggest real concern would be the possibility of making the game afkable

[wary turret]

Ohhhh, that's a good check, niceee