the end result is the same
#Do you like lateral thrust?
wet moth
zenith shard
if it was gimballing it would have to apply forward thrust at an angle to apply turning
objectively not the same
it would apply the same thrust at a small angle if it was gimbaling
wet moth
ok? im not entirely sure if the engine would support an angled thrust, so lateral can bve used toi change the total vector of the thrust
wet moth
that's what it becomes.
wet moth
thrust x at angle y plus thrust z at angle a... do the trig.
it's basic rocket science lol
zenith shard
it's basic rocket science lol
no. this isnt "rocket science". its basic dynamics, aka force components.
its surprising that you called it basic when you yourself dont understand the science
wet moth
you're splitting hairs. the end result is the same
zenith shard
no, its not
wet moth
yes. it is.
zenith shard
the end result is a thruster applying force directly sideways
in theory if the thrusters ever fired 5% of their thrust sideways and 95% forwards i would at least understand what you mean by it being functionally identical but the game never uses this
as far as i can tell
its literally only either the 5% thrust or the full forwards
wet moth
i was under the impression that that is how it works...
zenith shard
no
the thrust is applied directly forwards or directly sideways most of the time
unless the ai is making microadjustments
hexed cape
so lat thrust is gone?
elfin barn
yup
idle python
frosty edge
Not really gone just replaced to improve performance
hexed cape
whats it replaced with
stoic trail
late pawn
Pretty good compromise gotta say.
Not as powerful as mister lateral, but still pretty nice.
stoic trail
We’ll just say that bus takes pity on your poor useless ship and gives it a nudge 
tiny terrace
We’ll just say that bus takes pity on your poor useless ship and gives it a nudg...
In my headcanon, it's a few crew sticking one arm out of the airlock to eject some thrust in the desired direction with a garden-hose-like contraption while other crew hold them in place anime-style
late pawn
XD
They wave their arms to move the ship around, ''sailing'' through the dense space.
This logic sadly doesn't work for ships that have zero airlocks though 😔
idle python
they just do that thing like when ur on the rolling chair
they just scoot in the command seat
hexed cape
We’ll just say that bus takes pity on your poor useless ship and gives it a nudg...
given what we know about 
i dont think it knows pity
hexed cape
They wave their arms to move the ship around, ''sailing'' through the dense spac...
they drill a hole through a wall
dull saddle
They wave their arms to move the ship around, ''sailing'' through the dense spac...
my headcanon is essentially just crew slurping on some 
like its spicy mountain dew and produce phantom forces
hexed cape
it is mountain dew
tiny terrace
my headcanon is essentially just crew slurping on some <:rsBattery:1030546850568...
so that's what it's called these days huh
dull saddle
zenith shard
Seems reasonable
real basin
Let it be a game option
opaque basin
Let it be a game option
it seems just a little too niche for it to be toggled on and off in the vanilla game tho
maybe there can be a mod to bring it back
elfin barn
it adds 50% more processing
real basin
it seems just a little too niche for it to be toggled on and off in the vanilla ...
or hat, true.
late pawn
That ship has sailed ya'll.
tight nebula
I dont think it matters if the thrusters are more realistic. Lateral thrust is very important to quality of life. I would strongly recommend keeping it.
hallow relic
I dont think it matters if the thrusters are more realistic. Lateral thrust is v...
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/799600/view/4177728871872627969
In lieu of lateral thrust, ships with at least one operational thruster now have a very small amount of non-rotational "magic" thrust that they can exert in any direction but only when still or traveling at very low speeds. In general this should almost never be noticeable or significantly impact combat, but it allows ships with poor thrust balance to very slowly maneuver out of difficult spots.```
tight nebula
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/799600/view/4177728871872627969
``` Thru...
sadge
hallow relic
If you try it out you might even find it better now. Take a look!
opaque basin
I dont think it matters if the thrusters are more realistic. Lateral thrust is v...
while i thought this at first, the thing that ultimately made me choose to not want it anymore was the tremendous performance increase
and its removal greatly improved career and multiplayer pvp qol
tight nebula
while i thought this at first, the thing that ultimately made me choose to not w...
I agree. a good trade
simple storm
while i thought this at first, the thing that ultimately made me choose to not w...
TBH it was only a very small part of the performance improvements.
frosty schooner
every little bit helps
simple storm
I certainly don't disagree with that! (The whole performance update was basically just tons of "every little bit" improvements that added up.)
But if performance was the only reason to remove lateral thrust, I probably wouldn't have done it.
opaque basin
i see, thanks for the clarification
fleet sand
why does A and D not work when holding W
elfin barn
no lateral thrust
fleet sand
yeah but it works on large ships
the way it feels to control small ships with very few thrusters is terrible
assuming no braking
hold w
then give some rotation
then hold shift
all i am pressing is w and a occasionally
i have automatic braking on
because i went back to 0.24.3 and only forward facing thrusters it doesn't have the oscillations
like what is even going on here? all i pressed was W (automatic braking on) (nebula version)
why is it rotating excuse me
ship i used for the grand prix event a few months ago
frosty edge
why does A and D not work when holding W
could be the bonus thrust decreasing as your speed increases, meaning you can't turn with it
late pawn
It makes a lot of things inconsistent though, fortunately it doesn't break locking it seems like.
fleet sand
could be the bonus thrust decreasing as your speed increases, meaning you can't ...
you dont need bonus thrust to turn
elfin barn
wait turn?
hardy lake
its neat when you want a ship to be in an exact spot but the ship has no (insert thust direction here)
elfin barn
get better at shipbuilding then
fleet sand
get better at shipbuilding then
????? how is your comment at all relevant to what he just said???
elfin barn
thought it was sarcastic
late pawn
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limber topaz
get better at shipbuilding then
dull saddle
so...skill issue?