Crew Construction Preview Build

[supple atlas]

randomized construction % sprites per tile would look great in order to break the illusion of the construction sprites having 3-4 sprites that all change at the same time

could also be implemented in megaroids in order to make it less obvious its a 4x4 block

[glad magnet]

More or less a brand new start with no mods

[supple atlas]

poor walt gonna see so much crashlogs

[glad magnet]

better logs than just whining though, right? ..... right? 😄

[supple atlas]

i mean im technically whining but im doing it as early as possible in order to prevent older mods not being compatible

[wanton haven]

After doing ALL these things, not posting further is not laziness; it’s taking an extremely valid break from work 😁👍

[supple atlas]

walt ping (you woke him up)

[wanton haven]

😅😅😅 oops

Sorry Walt 🙂👍

[near heart]

gotta ping when you say sorry otherwise it doesn't count 😉

[supple atlas]

yeah it seems mods just

work

just the changes i proposed would fix probably almost every mod exept for some that have storages and etc

some mods may be half fixed 😭

[long ice]

you gotta ping him if you're gonna say that

[soft merlin]

gimmie that rainbow thing.

[jagged mango]

its in excelsior casual ships

[cursive sable]

Better than completely broken 😛

[cursive sable]

You are right actually. People who's feedback consists of a mere "ur mod is brokan" is not very helpfull, especially if I can't even reproduce it.

[jagged mango]

if i have a larger ship nearby, why can't more crew help build?

i have this checked

and enough crew to probably construct what i want in basically two trips

[jagged mango]

1160% speed.. there is so much time where there are no crew "working" on the ship

also why do they throw those 3 steel

also the reason the parts are stocks is because i did that manually

[silent linden]

lucky

mine just straight up crash in the main menu

[wet river]

is it maybe a fun idea if the logo will get builded as loading screen?

[jagged mango]

i'm trying to make the discord server icon

[wet river]

ok, i like the idea.

[little linden]

when the update comes out we need that as the servers animated gif

[wet river]

i love the new graphics and vfx for ship construction and i have found out one of the secrets the airlock hatch has new sound effects, i like it.

found a new secret update, i love it to see crew and resources in one screen.

[wet river]

did find out about a nother secret update, i did first not have one part and i wanted to reload the blueprint to let it know i have now that part, but i did not need to do it 😄

i love the new graphics and vfx for ship construction. (does someone know what vfx means?)

a powerfull ship has destroyed my weak defence and next it did destroy this ship.

[little linden]

alr ima sound like a nerd but you say powerfull togethor if im correct

not like this power full but like this Powerfull

[wet river]

better?

[little linden]

yeah

also i think VFX stands for Visual effects

well in editing

[iron fable]

update: apperently problem with the EML (enhanced mod loader), removed it and it works again
@obsidian holly any clue why that could happen?

[wet river]

btw i did start a new career

i'm not sure if the building texure is right on the 2-way small thruster.

it is sometimes not posible to teleport to the station...

[devout lake]

vfx = visual effects

[wet river]

oh ok

😄 new button by loading ships.

[supple atlas]

it is

[wet river]

i was away for 5 minutes 😦 did not save my career

[silent linden]

[obsidian holly]

Yeah it seems like the function i used to get the mod folders was removed and now causes a MissingMethodException
The method i'm using for getting the mod paths was updated and i used the old, incomplete one

[wet river]

i have a error, i have the room i have the airlock i have all that i need, the station did first not have it and now it has i want to buy it but i cant...

this is the save file

i did reload to look if the safe has the problem and it has

i cant buy the procesors

[dusky tendon]

Thanks for the save file, there are a couple weird things going on there.

@silent linden Try verifying file integrity through steam, it looks like your installation is corrupt.

@iron fable That's happening to you during launch or on the title screen?

@normal inlet @glad magnet Please post about the issue in #1019741923893858305, and include a log+save/rec if possible.

[obsidian holly]

Fixed, EML should now work with the newest preview

[iron fable]

ty!

[iron fable]

during launch, will check in a bit with C0dingschmusers updated one

[faint crow]

was traveling between two stations, looking away from screen when this happened. i'm playing on linux with proton 7.0-6 if that matters, no mods and a fresh campaign

[iron fable]

update: its fixed now an starts as usual

[wet river]

are there more weird things in that file than i did see?

[mystic yacht]

[bug report]
mayhaps intended, but I don't think so

if you set Combat Difficulty to "Invulnerable" (Civilian), it results in the crew members not being able to demolish structures (because all damage is blocked, demolishing-damage included apparently)
thus your crew will forever stay there trying to demolish a part

(sorry for low-quality gif, wanted to test out the standard settings on gif recorder in-game)

[wet river]

i do see a ship in that save that is not trading...

[wet river]

i was playing and the game did crash, i did see noting that can have done it.

i was in the middle of a battle, i did almost lose, and after i did destroy all wapons of the enemys i wanted to destroy the ships but the game did crash.

[soft merlin]

visual fehxts

[wet river]

someone else did already type, it means visual effects.

[ocean zephyr]

I am not able to reproduce this crash. Any clues you can provide about how to make it crash?

[ocean zephyr]

If that doesn't seem to be working, please provide a save.

[ocean zephyr]

Will be fixed in the next preview, thanks for reporting.

[ocean zephyr]

Fixed for the next preview build, thanks!

[hasty furnace]

what do i do to test this new update preview?

[devout lake]

Please see the pinned message

[hasty furnace]

ok, thx mate

[ocean zephyr]

@everyone New crew construction preview build is live with an assortment of fixes. Thanks for testing!

[jagged mango]

#1100154418478989353 message if you didn't see this clip, i think it's working as intended but i feel like the crew could be more efficient
here is the savegame

i see at most there were 35 of the possible 300+ crew from the large ship EVA

i think the optimization would be to have crew able to build temporary structure blocks adjacent to other temporary structure blocks
it seems they can already do so

like these two lengths of corridor take basically the same amount of time to construct

i bet the reason why the wider one is behind is because they have to travel an extra 6 tiles to reach the top row

[halcyon vector]

if you pause an almost constructed part, it can be heavily damaged and then canceled to prevent any resource loss from the damages, as long as you never fully build it

also i noticed that crew like to swap to another crew when building instead of reuseing the same one that is already EVA
if the already EVA crew had priority for building, that could make it a lot faster

[supple atlas]

i just hope my suggestions about filenames to keep older mods working comes through before the stable branch 😅

[supple atlas]

"I Hate Crew Construction" button seems to be written grammatically incorrect

[dusky tendon]

How so?

[supple atlas]

iirc it's missing a "be" in the tip string

[dusky tendon]

Yeah that's not correct. Thanks for reporting!

[ocean zephyr]

I don't think that's the right save?

[jagged mango]

huh..

[ocean zephyr]

Not sure how I would make crew any more efficient here.

[jagged mango]

well since the second save works, it doesn't really matter that you didn't have the first save

when there is a request for a crew to do something that is EVA, will it prioritize crew that are near an airlock or crew that are already outside looks like yes.

ohhh it's waiting for the structure to be finished before making a request

is there a way to request the construction of a structure next to a yet-to-be-built structure?

[dusky tendon]

Yes, but depending on backend it might hurt performance.

[jagged mango]

but it'd be so satisfying 😩

[gentle lagoon]

Hihi
Just had a fun crash.
I think a NPC ship pushed a station out of range while a large ish ship was being build/repaired.
hope this is the right place

[dusky tendon]

Do you have a save file of before this crash occurred?

[cursive sable]

So what's the password for the unstable build?

On this page https://steamcommunity.com/games/799600/announcements/detail/3633879261310143806?snr=1_5_9_ it's telling me that I should only need to select the unstable build, but when doing this it asks me for a password. previewpreview doesn't work

I'd like to have access to this ASAP so I can start making my mods compatible

[molten sedge]

just play on the RC?

but password is found on the main post

[cursive sable]

So which one of these is that?

[molten sedge]

Unstable

[cursive sable]

And the password?

As I already said, previewpreview doesn't work

[sick forum]

You just click unstable

You don't need a password

[molten sedge]

prewview was probably removed because the RC is out

[cursive sable]

Ah, now I see it. I can ignore the field and it will still download the unstable build. Thanks

[supple atlas]

it was yeah

[ocean zephyr]

Yeah the Steam UI for that is confusing. And yes, the preview build has been removed in favor of the release candidate (unstable).

[cursive sable]

What was the line of code that could be edited so that the structures would not cost steel to build it?
I saw Walt mention something along those lines somewhere, but I'm unable to find it.

[wanton haven]

Do we want to pin this somewhere? Sounds like a question that will be frequently asked. 😁 👍

[molten sedge]

Why

The preview is irrelevant, don't think it will be talked about ever now

[wanton haven]

Not so much for the previewpreview build, more about pinning a description of what the Steam UI's Cosmoteer beta tab means

[dense raptor]

It will be closed soon probably.

🚧

[dusky tendon]

Just vanilla structure? This part of the structure rules file. Note that you'd need to edit it for all types of structure, and setting a part to cost nothing confuses crew too much to build it (so it can only be placed in free build).