let's vote for diswuptor
#Petition to return Disruptors to their original name; Electro-Bolts
copper kite
mild coral
i think the best compromise would be to call it a disruptor, but still call it EB for short, so that's what i do
thin compass
it's easier to guess what the part does if you call it Disruptor than Eletto Bolter
mint pewter
It does fire electric bolts though
waxen flicker
it's easier to guess what the part does if you call it Disruptor than Eletto Bol...
Petition to rename Shields "Blockers", Armor "Bonks", and cannons "Shooters"?
thin compass
mint pewter
What of dc's?, High shooters?
waxen flicker
Very high big shooters.
copper kite
What of dc's?, High shooters?
nah, the highschool shooters are the PDs
waxen flicker
Nah those are Antishooters, and Flaks are Chonky Antishooters. :D
ornate yacht
I agree, the original name and design was iconic to cosmoteer, and this was the reason for its change:
I also like the original turret design much better than the current one, as it looked much more unique as compared to current ordinary scifi designs
waxen flicker
Shields are confusing, what do they do? Their name is kinda weird
copper kite
they... hum... shield ? no ?
ornate yacht
electro bolter my beloved
lofty ivy
Yeah but the game has a style
waxen flicker
To shield is to act as a shield, which in english is self-referential. Shields (the physical combat object) are used for blocking, which in turn means that shields oddly do not shield, they act as a shield, which is to say they block. So really, shields block, which with the previous logic, means they should be called Blockers, just as the Disruptor Disrupts.
lofty ivy
I don't like the new ones much either, they look like they'd snap off if you yanked hard
Yeah
Disruptor sounds better yoo
Not like a pbs attempt at a scifi show
ornate yacht
Yeah but the game has a style
yeah i meant like if the old turret design were to be remade for the current release, not simply yoinked lol
waxen flicker
And, like, they don't even Disrupt? They Drain. Fire Disrupts the crew, a missing hallway disrupts crew and stops them from doing their job... so, Railguns, although aptly named (it's a gun that is a rail), THEY are the ones that should be called disruptors. :3
waxen flicker
Directly, it drains energy from the hit object. :3
Literally.
...but I don't want them to be called Drainers, as that's arguably worse than Disruptor. D:
lofty ivy
Yeah but disruptor still works
waxen flicker
Thrusters... thrust. makes sense. The Ion Beam Emitter, well, emits an ion beam... so maybe it too needs a more clear name describing what it does in the meta of combat?
thin compass
BATTERIES GOING DOWN THE [[DRAINER, DRAINER]
waxen flicker
lol
lofty ivy
So by this description how would electro bolters be a better word
waxen flicker
I think my core point is this: both sides are dumb, they SHOULD be called EMP Laser Blaster, or EMP Laser as short.
lofty ivy
Agreed
Emp implies an explosive tho so it's kinda hard
Considering the fact that emp is a modern term that actually exists
waxen flicker
Nah, EMP is Electro-Magnetic Pulse, which disrupts electronics. (not explosive)
lofty ivy
It's the best working title
Irl emps function as an area effect tool, or at least they do conceptually. I guess they kinda do travel through armor so it works in a sense, but the modern mind thinks of emps as a sorta warhead.
(let's just admire how funny the emp missile looks for a sec)
mint pewter
We should just call eb's the yellow gun, lb's as the red gun, railguns as the long gun, ion beam emitters as the laser gun, cannons as the gun, and tractor beams as the pulling gun, it is more accurate to the game experience
ornate yacht
So by this description how would electro bolters be a better word
iconic name. you could hear the word and look it up to find that its only in cosmoteer
lofty ivy
Yes but you can also name it shidfardturnoffmachino and that would also only be in cosmoteer
waxen flicker
They're a bomb, but not a thermo-kinetic explosive like the term bomb brings to mind.
lofty ivy
Yes kinda
waxen flicker
Yes but you can also name it shidfardturnoffmachino and that would also only be ...
But that ignores literally the whole conversation for the sake of a stupid unique name :v
ornate yacht
I think my core point is this: both sides are dumb, they SHOULD be called EMP La...
i do like it a little better than "Disruptor" because its every so slightly less generic lol
lofty ivy
Maybe If the emp effect was animated and modeled
waxen flicker
There's a point to be made there, for sure, but it's not that, I think.
waxen flicker
Maybe If the emp effect was animated and modeled
Isn't it?
waxen flicker
I'm 90% sure it is
lofty ivy
I know it has a splash animation but I don't remember there being an animation to show what parts are effected and what the range is
ornate yacht
Yes but you can also name it shidfardturnoffmachino and that would also only be ...
the thing is the name isn't some random made up word, it implies that it bolts electricity and is somewhere in between "too generic" and "too hard to understand", in some very good place
perhaps some new part could take its name with a similar function, if the current Disruptor doesn't get renamed
waxen flicker
Yeah yeah they have a yellow fizzle, and the EMP-damage lightning that goes from the point of impact to the affected part, specifically shields.
waxen flicker
I've made the Silicon Silicone mistake before, I felt so dumb x-x
mint pewter
You americans with your weird version of English
waxen flicker
One's for toys, the other's for computers.
mint pewter
Silicone is used as oils, rubber and stuff
waxen flicker
Both derived from silicates, but yeah.
mint pewter
And silicone is a compound
lofty ivy
Silicone is a pretty common small scale manufacturing tool
For making molds for lead and even making negative molds for ceramics so you can make other cool stuff
Yeah sure
mint pewter
You're an insulator this day if you do
tardy igloo
as someone who never played classic, electro-bolt is pretty goofy sounding, and doesn't really convey anything meaningful. lasers also function purely on electricity and shoot bolt-like projectiles. are they not also "electro-bolts"? whereas disruptor makes intuitive sense for something that disables shields
final imp
I'm... Very mixed on this.
tardy igloo
that said, I almost want to vote for this just to eliminate the brief moment of confusion I have every time someone says EB
final imp
On one hand, Electro-Bolter is an incredibly iconic name and having it be Disruptir really breaks the very very widely used EB abbreviation. Most people, especially new ones tend to get confused when they say this, and reverting it back would fix this confusion.
waxen flicker
I think my core point is this: both sides are dumb, they SHOULD be called EMP La...
:3
final imp
On one hand, Electro-Bolter is an incredibly iconic name and having it be Disrup...
On the other hand, in my opinion, name Disruptor has become really iconic as well, plus it reminds me of that little ship in Classic Cosmoteer's built-in ship lineup. Reverting the name back to ElectroBolter will return the name ti its firmer glory but make Disruptor vanish, whilst keeping it Disruptor will ensure this name's unforgettability whilst obviously, the name EB will never vanish from this community just by the sheer iconicness of it.
That's my take on the subject.
tardy igloo
:3
I mean, I personally don't find disruptor to be dumb at all for what the part actually does
final imp
Very subjective and dare I say strange, but yeah, I'd rather keep it as Disruptor if I had to choose.
waxen flicker
...what if they added a Large version, similar to Laser Blaster and Heavy Laser Blaster- Electro Bolter and Disruptor? I'll leave it up to imagination which would be which.
the addition of a large version completely aside from the conversation
final imp
Ohboi
waxen flicker
Or smaller!
final imp
Already made up by me, down to pretty extensive details.
waxen flicker
I mean smaller!
tardy igloo
per the rest of the game's naming conventions I feel like it would have to be disruptor and heavy disruptor. like with laser blaster and heavy laser blaster
waxen flicker
Everyone suggests larger uwu
waxen flicker
Yesplease :3
I find the *1x5 size to be rather cumbersome in smaller builds.
ornate yacht
stuns missiles but doesn't destory them 
mint pewter
I do not think we need a dlb variation of the eb
ornate yacht
i want one, for the purposes of actually stunning the components of ships instead of being anti shield 90% of the time, but making a weapon like that is difficult because power drain is automatically anti shield
mint pewter
Stunning with energy also doesn't effect ammo using cannons
waxen flicker
Make them literally bounce off the shields :3
ornate yacht
Stunning with energy also doesn't effect ammo using cannons
they could stun the crew supplying instead maybe
thin compass
ebon mesa
How about call it emp blasters which we can then shorten to eb again
Seems clear enuf
And a nice shortform too that people will remember since its the same as previous
barren basin
twilit dagger
chrome token
Electwo bwoltew :(
How's the modern called? Just disruptor?
Then, no; we need a middle ground
Disruptor is an average quality name, but holds up with the current ingame sprite, and the concept of the name is relatively fitting (utility based application, projectiles that drain energy).
Electro-Bolter is a good quality name, the sprite fitted the concept averagely (colour only, there's no bolt, a mass of energy as projectile), but the concept was on itself something different (weapon that shoots electro-bolts, which deal low damage and deplete energy).
A middle ground like Electronic Disruptor (or something along the way) would not only fit the concept of grasping the utility, but also the sprites as well.
balmy verge
electro-disruptor might be a cool name for it
unkempt moon
To argue that electro bolter is better because it shows electric projectiles is like arguing we should call cannons metal spitters.
Disruptor describes what it does well enough for most to connect the dots and there's tooltip for the slower of us.
Electro disruptor? maybe if there ever happens to be another, so the distinction is needed. (like with laser blasters being big and smol)
tawdry axle
To argue that electro bolter is better because it shows electric projectiles is ...
ED 💀
final imp
Electro Disruptor sounds a really dumb hybrid of the two.
copper kite
dis raptor
mint pewter
Disruption bolts
unkempt moon
Disruptor blaster? DB?
final imp
No. The best name would be electro bolting disruptor cannon shooter machine 3000
Jokes aside some sort of a lightning cannon in Cosmoteer would be epic.
fickle hill
i tried making that in classic w/ a mod and hsjeiofgsk never again
actually maybe again
probably again :(
thin compass
chrome token
To argue that electro bolter is better because it shows electric projectiles is ...
The problem with Disruptor so far, isn't that it mainly doesn't fit the sprite it was given, but that there's no abbreviation that feels accurate considering every other weapon and system ever had an abbreviation for ease of reading.
For instance, there is no reason why your common lasers should be called anything other than lasers, except that they called laser blaster, so because of that, they are shortened to LB
chrome token
Exactly, @unkempt moon would you fit D's on your ship? 👀
mint pewter
I think he wants a large d on his ship
At least a theoretical one, the only available ones are small
fickle hill
For instance, there is no reason why your common lasers should be called anythin...
they changed it from small laser to laser blaster????
unkempt moon
Exactly, <@428969794021228544> would you fit D's on your ship? 👀
D's nuts, got im!
Why not Dr's tho?
chrome token
Because its a single word, and every other abbreviation uses uppercase lol
mint pewter
Hmmm
unkempt moon
Disruptor Nefario
Remember to use your privatdozents to shoot down rockets.
mint pewter
Disruptive electro bolters
final imp
That's too much lol
mint pewter
I do not think so
unkempt moon
deb? I still like ed more
unkempt moon
what about EMD? Electro-magnetic disruptor
mint pewter
Not enough words I think
unkempt moon
3 letters is not too much. We got HEM and EMP and nuke, although that's not something we shorten either.
mint pewter
It should have more words
unkempt moon
Combustible lemon thrower
thin compass
DS
unkempt moon
why not shield disruptor? I guess it doesn't work just on shields, but that's what it does.
mint pewter
Then we can be more inclusive
Something akin to, erycsdeblr
Energy removing yellow coloured shield disrupting electro bolters at low range
It could catch on
chrome token
they changed it from small laser to laser blaster????
It never was "small" laser for all I know
mint pewter
Classic'e version
chrome token
Classic had it as small?
mint pewter
What do you think
mint pewter
I want dlb's back as dlb's
waxen flicker
I still like EMP Laser (EMP Laser Blaster)
mint pewter
Emplb doesn't have enough letters in the acronym
thin compass
shut parcel
disuwuptowor
waxen flicker
Emplb doesn't have enough letters in the acronym
We don't call the Small Laser (Small Laser Blaster) SLB, we just call them Lasers
Maybe SL
shut parcel
I tend to just call them blasters cause calling them lasers feels disingenuous
waxen flicker
fair
shut parcel
waxen flicker
...that's literally what I said, I was talking about what people shorten it to, Laser or SL.
:V
Also, it's ACTUALLY called the Small Laser Blaster, but the FriendlyName is Small Laser
Oops, *Laser and Laser Blaster
(and related Heavy Laser, Heavy Laser Blaster)
mega derp on my part