design contest chat

[toxic ocean]

I think air means inner medium reactors have a big chance of being destroyed

[desert trail]

so thats a yes then

[mortal cave]

Its a hard no

[desert trail]

-# awww...

-# but there lemon flavored...

[mortal cave]

*they're

[desert trail]

[toxic ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-your-gif-22328611

[dusty orchid]

I dont think this marketing strategy is working

[lament skiff]

We should change your name to airweaver

[tired vapor]

wdym

[dusty orchid]

like spaming strategy to get more votes at the end

[tired vapor]

???? there ar eno votes

and this is why

[dusty orchid]

the comunity votes at the end

[tired vapor]

*no votes of importance

[dusty orchid]

eh you still post that ship a lot\

[tired vapor]

not as often as i update to the final (real final (for real this time (really))) (2) version

pretty sure i've updated the post 4 times

[dusty orchid]

a

[tired vapor]

?? i just copied avokado

well not very well

[lament skiff]

I wasn’t talking about the paintstyle

[tired vapor]

it's a nice shape

[night plover]

Wait, the cg can shoot through the disruptor and its turret?

[lament skiff]

no it’s just avoiding it

[night plover]

The middle yes, but the two on the sides?

[lament skiff]

Ye

[weak moth]

the cg is shooting "under" the turret, not thru

cause the turret head hitbox is slightly elevated from the base part

[night plover]

That's what I meant. Through was probably the wrong word to use there, sorry.

[tired vapor]

i had a different version that did that

and an ion version

but those were combat incapable

well they were extremely capable but they shaped badly and i didn't like them\

[night plover]

I feel like this ship drive is a great way to learn about things other players do that you might want to copy.

[tired vapor]

yeah i think all of my paint skills have come from appropriating learning from design contest "collabs" (only optimizing at the end0

[lament skiff]

how to paint: yoink -> twist

[mortal cave]

My go to advice is always do this with built-ins, yeah

[night plover]

"You can submit up to 3 ships"
Grant: "Hold my ${beverage of choice}"

[late zenith]

Grant put the whole fleet in a single ship, but in an extremely obvious way

[late zenith]

Late Game Legend done, now only Mid Game Menace left

[desert trail]

Speaking of late game legend...

[lament skiff]

Grant I regret to inform i have out-small lasered you

[desert trail]

Really?

How many do you ave

[lament skiff]

depends how you wanna look at it

72 oc smalls

[small breach]

fire

[lament skiff]

er

64 now

[desert trail]

That's 4 less then kobolds dream

[lament skiff]

Ye

But they’re oc

[desert trail]

It's got 76 total

[lament skiff]

64 oc vs 76 cold

[night plover]

I like testing different schemes I have stored on imported ships. I think this one works really well.

[small breach]

also is this intentional?

probably not @desert trail there seems to be a 1tile wide strip missing from your paint

on the left deck cannon ship only

[toxic ocean]

Same.

Very fun proccess

[slow axle]

Wow I'm impressed

[night plover]

Ngl, I read that as Watcher of the Frog first and felt that it fit well...

[slow axle]

Yours too @versed locust

[versed locust]

thank you!

[versed locust]

xD also very acceptable

[small breach]

do i need crew access on decorative(not connected to any chainguns) chaingun magazines or not?

[past bramble]

do i need structure guard for the front engines?

[simple valve]

Asteroids are usually bigger so they wouldn't get stuck but junk ship parts could get there

Not sure how DC behaves with junk, but since this is an orbiter/broadsider (doesn't really matter) the shots could often hit the junk stuck in there

(if the projectiles don't fly over the junk but I doubt that)

[night plover]

Is it even a combat ship though? The storage front makes the dc look more like the medicinal variety.

[past bramble]

its a transport

the weaponry is so weak that it cannot brake the defenses of a 300k ship

also the reactors are practically exposed lol

i want a ship that looks like it has superfiring turrets because battleships are cool, but that is kinda off difficult to pull off without resorting to a broadsiding orbiter which also has its own set of problems as those are difficult to make symmetrical

a transport ship however i can do it without giving a damn about combat effectiveness

here are the prototypes i come up with while trying to figure this thing out

i wonder if i should have left the storages blank instead

[night plover]

It looks better with them filled in I think.

[past bramble]

trying to figure out the storage decor was rather fun

figuring out what are the most vaguely corpo logo thing i can make

[simple valve]

Oh I just saw DC and assumed it's for combat, if it's a civilian the reverse thruster holes are alright

Low chance of encountering junk ship parts and it will naturally avoid asteroids that would still be too big for the holes

[desert trail]

might have missed it when copying the left side to the right

fixed bolth of my ships cause kobold had airlocked opporators

fixed it again caus i missed the thing again

[median patio]

30 days left

Idk if I'll get the time to create my ship

[lament skiff]

budget issues

In retrospect not sure why i thought id be under budget

[past bramble]

whats the reason for cargo/civ pricepoint being between 75k to 1m instead of 100k to 3m like combat?

[elfin venture]

cus there are no builtin cargo ships past about 700k or so, which is because a cargo ship above 1mil is just a giant flying pinata

[hazy edge]

#1059085469708734515 message

https://tenor.com/view/wormie-club-wormie-club-windows-book-club-gif-26107430

[late zenith]

by the time you'd see the erdenet in career it probably would have lost most of its fighters but very cool nonetheless

[past bramble]

can that thing actually beat something in its class?

[median patio]

ok

[hazy edge]

thank you 💜

[median patio]

i havent painted in a while

[lament skiff]

@mortal cave i didnt see it in the doc but just to make sure, do submissions have to be legal

-# Im just pinging saris cause im bored but it’s actually not in the doc

-# i checked

[weak moth]

#1059085469708734515 message

"what are we gonna do, fight the su- HOLY SHIT"

[mortal cave]

Yes. I thought it was obvious and in the document but I guess I'll add it somewhere

[late zenith]

don't forget a sensor array that thing's 2 mil running around without 1

[weak moth]

legendary 0 sensor railgun meta

[median patio]

Just play in creative mode

🙄

[lament skiff]

You don’t need to succeed the dev vote to win MoD

[median patio]

I also forgot reverse

Bruh

1 oc small thrust it is

Yk I probably need more

[lament skiff]

It needs to be able to do 10 m/s reverse

[median patio]

Considering it's a rail ship

Imma delete it until it has satisfactory thrust

[lament skiff]

satisfactory

[median patio]

Whyd I think the price limit was 2 mil

It's 3 mil

[lament skiff]

It was at first but saris changed it

[median patio]

Time for a completely new ship cause I have better ideas

[median patio]

Oh

[tired vapor]

add no autofire too plase

[desert trail]

thats alredy in the rules i think

[tired vapor]

it's not

[elfin venture]

@mortal cave Does ship price include ammunition? Is a ship slightly over 3mil permissible if removing its ammo puts it under 3mil?

[mortal cave]

Yes it includes ammo. If it's only under 3mil without ammo then it's 3mil without ammo

[elfin venture]

alright ok

[lament skiff]

Oof

[toxic ocean]

@slim fog Based fellow windows un-activator (incredibly cool ship by the way)

[small breach]

made a ship, how's it looking?

forgot some coloring on the reactor and the shields hm

overall i'm happy with it but idk if i over detailed it

[slow axle]

Electrical ⚡

[small breach]

fixed

[novel coyote]

hmm

[lament skiff]

Interesting but can ai do it

[novel coyote]

if the middle bit rams it should drag them into place

and they should rotate on their own anyway I think

[lament skiff]

How will they split

[novel coyote]

exposed charges

[desert trail]

lobter

[lament skiff]

I’d check in with saris might be too gimmicky to be accepted

[mortal cave]

Probably too ambitious, unfortunately

[novel coyote]

Why exactly is that? I mean Jewjuice's one is also pretty gimmicky no?

[toxic ocean]

Well each of the "modules" there function as self-sustainant ships. The rail thingies if they fall off they won't. That aside it won't be able to warp.

[novel coyote]

I didn't think ships would be expected to maintain full functionality after a fight

[night plover]

The lobster claws currently only having one direction of thrust is probably one of the problems.

[summer raven]

Is there a requirement for good painting? Or can a capable but ugly ship make it in?

(my odds of having something of mine actually be good enough to get added are close to nil regardless, but just in case)

[mortal cave]

Specifically, there's no other ships in the game that utilize this sort of thing. The AI is definitely not capable of working with it like a player could, and it's likelyt he case that the main hubship would try to collision avoid its own wings and be non-functional.

That being said I'm currently asking Walt about your and Jewjuice's Erdenet.

[mortal cave]

I mean... beauty is subjective, but ships that don't look good are... less likely to make it, to say the least.

[summer raven]

damn
might have to see if I can hire a painter...

[lament skiff]

I think that’s legal but would have to be considered a “group” paint? Idk

[weak moth]

the ship as a whole would be a collab ship ye

[night plover]

Just ask for advice very often.

[tired vapor]

ai respects collision avoidance settings until the damage threshold is reached afaik

[bleak garnet]

Chad

[toxic ocean]

Average Hyperborean alien resident

I imagine ultranationalist Cabal would go full Occult and fanatical and create a solar version of Agartha myth where perfect sun people reside

I say that because my faction (a revanchist rump state of Cabal) does exactly that. I'm making a ship for them in this DC actually >:)

[versed locust]

cant wait to see it!

[lament skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

[tired vapor]

who's looking for collab

ping me

[late zenith]

in all the design contests / ship drives i've been in i've never seen someone who does images on ships this good

[versed locust]

thank you!

i might as well also show this

[past bramble]

aight pack it up boys we are so screwed

[bleak garnet]

I guess we will have cult in cosmoteer before gta6

[lament skiff]

another top tier competitor

[desert trail]

epic

i too am atempting to make a mural

[late zenith]

reminds me of meekoz's paints, but with better detail

[toxic ocean]

Like I said.

Incredibly stacked contest

[versed locust]

🥺 ❤️

[night plover]

I mean, it's just a colored name to win, but you get a bunch of very different ships to yoink/meet ingame.

[long oasis]

prob could win easily .
there are alot of other nice ships i have seen

[mortal cave]

@novel coyote @slim fog
From the word of Walt himself:

Both of those designs feel like they'd work better in future planned updates (hinges and carriers, respectively). Neither design is something I'd want to have spawn in Career, if that's the requirement, due to them exploiting game mechanics in ways that undermine the fantasy. Like, Erdenet isn't "a ship that's designed to split itself," [IE Splitters] (it's "separate carrier and fighter ships stuffed on the same build grid so that they'll spawn together" but no one in the Cosmoteer fiction would ever actually design a ship that way.

For that reason I'm going to have to disqualify Erdenet, as pretty and well designed as it is, and advise you to shelve your current project, Mungbean.

[bleak garnet]

Im kinda too lazy to make ship due to lack of inspiration today...

Is this allowed? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1335119360632557578/1458394244019388436/A55DF35F-300E-49C1-BAFA-FC7A6885F9BF.png?ex=695f7afb&is=695e297b&hm=c93f100acec99e9bd3f96e3496522da3b08b4572d0756b1b72a744c55532b314&

[night plover]

Why not?

[bleak garnet]

Just in case if made up faction ships not allow on the contest

I guess...

[lament skiff]

unfortunate for jewjuice although the main ship could still be posted standalone and would be pretty cool

[lament skiff]

There’s already some ingame

But

Not really enforceable to begin with

[bleak garnet]

Ohhhhhh

Heheheh

Thank you!

[cyan yew]

@mortal cave Are ships that are designed by aliens lorewise allowed in the design contest or is the premise of cosmoteer supposed to be centered around human vs human conflict?

[mortal cave]

The latter is true. And it'd be strange if an alien ship was perfectly operated by humans

[hazy edge]

mimicry

[cyan yew]

Would the introduction of advanced aliens disrupt the narrative of cosmoteer and leave the human factions flabbergasted even if the aliens are peaceful?

[small breach]

probably but i mean who cares, i'm sure imper would care alot more about conquering cabal systems than talking with this new alien thing

[small breach]

(ebs on the left one's left wing is the difference btween the two)

[lament skiff]

Right looks better

[slim fog]

All good, I can rework Erdenet into a different type of ship. But would a ship like this be good?

[mortal cave]

Yeah, splitters like that are okay. That being said, I would try to integrate it better, or hide the explosive charge connections. They and the structure holding them kind of stick out right now

[elfin venture]

a lot of the ionian splitters don't even look like splitters at first glance, just kind of oddly-made ships

[mortal cave]

Also worth noting that the AI can't use explosive charges, so the four armor sectons on the front won't be discarded at opportune times. I would cut those, unless you have another intention I'm not aware of

[elfin venture]

looks like the point of the ECs is to a) force the ship to split regardless of where it's taking damage b) to discard parts of armour after the ship has split so the railkite section won't be weighted down

that said i have no idea what those ECs on the side wing structure is doing

[late zenith]

splitters seem to be in vogue as of late

[bleak garnet]

The splitter era

[versed locust]

i was thinking the same thing!

[inner basalt]

Lmao.Truee

[versed locust]

Hoping this is my last painting fix for Borrowed Hands ⚰️
If I start posting WIPs of another asymmetrical ion ship, you guys have to intervene LOL

[night plover]

Don't make me look at my two finished designs too closely 😛

[toxic ocean]

I'm doing the complete 180 of most of you guys in terms of my core gimmick, but I feel like it's going to turn out sublime.

[toxic ocean]

Actually, what I should've said is that...

I'M DOING THE COMPLETE 360!!!

[small breach]

i thought about making one of those a couple days ago but decided against it so i'm glad someone else is making it

@mortal cave are mixed content civilian ships allowed? something like this where it has both crew and storage

[toxic ocean]

Now fingers crossed this doesn't exceed 3 million...

[mortal cave]

Sure... probably. Mechanically it may just be implemented as one or the other as trading both crew and cargo may require bespoke code, but that's not a big issue

[toxic ocean]

I'll ask too while you're still here, such manipulation of AI prism targetting as this (it doesn't need autofiring to function) is allowed, right?

[toxic ocean]

(Talking about this of course)

[mortal cave]

One of the Cabal arms depots actually does that. I don't know how effective or necessary it'll be on a combat ship, but so long as it's functional, sure

[versed locust]

indecisive about the coloring...

[toxic ocean]

yes, it was inspired by the 0neye Arms Depot, but still felt like clarifying since that's a stationary while mine is a mobile vessel.

[toxic ocean]

I think the marble and gold by far fits something like this better.

This is soo darn beautiful though you're so good

[versed locust]

the left one is the original, but I guess my personal concern is that it's a little too Io?.... I guess the faces probably help distinguish it, but it's something that came to mind while coloring

[mortal cave]

Having it be all red blends together compared to how distinct and standout the left is

It also has such a distinct physical structure compared to Ionian blockiness that I wouldn't worry about it

[dusty orchid]

man day after day I start to think on how am i suposed to compete when Im the best at making functional but goofy looking ships and in here there are good looking ships that also work as well as they look or sometimes a bit less

Im still trying but man IM bad at painting

[past bramble]

one guy won making a mini jump gate thing

take that what you will

[dusty orchid]

well then there is a small chance but its still very small

[past bramble]

the goal is to get your ship ingame anyway special color is just a bonus

[toxic ocean]

True.

[summer raven]

Same here
Was aiming for the lowest weight class (100k-150k) on the assumption there will be no competition there but honestly painting something well enough to go in the game seems impossible

[toxic ocean]

Fockewolf

[dusty orchid]

also I just realized that when I make a ship I always use VERY litle reactiors in some cases I made a ship with 1 or NO reactors while they are around 1.5MIL

I realized that cus I just made a small oc reactor that powers 8 small oc sheadls

[lament skiff]

1 reactor is one thing but wym no reactors

[dusty orchid]

like 1 pvp elimination ship I had 18 dc almoust 100 thust forward and backward 2 controll rooms and had oonly 1 capasitor as energy

sadly I cant use it here

[lament skiff]

elim or dom?

[dusty orchid]

elim

I had a bit of thows untill I added a trl then I swiched to 1 small reactor

[lament skiff]

how do that work

you’ll run out of thruster power

then get blown up from behind

[dusty orchid]

I used the power of small thrusters spam

[lament skiff]

ah

[dusty orchid]

also I made a ship with 1 mid reactor that had 82 fully operational mining lasers

quite powerfull too

[lament skiff]

[dusty orchid]

I can post it too but idk if I can here cus it aint a ship that I will submit

[lament skiff]

no rules in this chat

as long as mostly on topic

[dusty orchid]

well then gona post it to show that a mid reactor ship with many mining lasers is posible to made so some one can submit a ship that usis this tech called "burst damage"

here is the sun miner

also painted so its also on topic

oh ye it had 2 trl too

[lament skiff]

intrstint

intsrtinh

instestging

[dusty orchid]

also ship I have been making for this (the radiators are just so the ship aint gona burn while I making it)

[lament skiff]

Imperium ahh design

[dusty orchid]

ye

[tired vapor]

i'm making an alpha ship dw

[lament skiff]

hmmm wonder how far an alpha ship can go before saris says nuh uh

Hullbreaker can’t sustain anything but idk if ships should be that bad cause hullbreaker can’t beat anything

[tired vapor]

1 mr (non oc) w/ 1.5m attached

[mortal cave]

If all of the weapons can fire at once then the mechanical conditions are satisfied; but it has to look pretty too

[lament skiff]

wdym?

[tired vapor]

imo it doesn't because if it's ugly, then nothing will come of it

[mortal cave]

If a ship can't utilize all of its weapons at once, IE operators need to switch mid-fight for all the weapons to fire, then it will be disqualified

Additionally if it looks bad it won't be accepted into the game

[cyan yew]

So a ship must be hyperoptimized so there is little to no flickering with energy weapons nor long delays with kinetic weapons?

[mortal cave]

Not at all what I was saying. A ship must have enough operators for every module to be operated at the same time. Thrusters, control rooms, weapons.

[cyan yew]

And it must fight at least decently too?

[mortal cave]

Yes

[lament skiff]

That makes sense. I was talking about reactor sustainability

I used hullbreaker as an example cause its reactor/caps cant last through most fights

also what about backup style ships

[mortal cave]

Ships that rely on power reserves can still fire all of their weapons at once. Backup style ships, if you're alluding to the fringe nuke ones by Door, are also allowed, so long as all of the weapons can have operators in them at the same time.

[novel coyote]

this won't break the IP infringement rule I hope?

[lament skiff]

What is it

[novel coyote]

symbols stolen from the game outer wilds

[weak moth]

hey i played that game

wowzers

[versed locust]

I'm honestly also curious about the line between inspiration and infringement for ship drives

[late zenith]

normally they're not that blatant looking, although people (and architects) do love references for sure

[mortal cave]

That line was added by Vilda and I interpret it as 'don't steal from other players or add anything that could get Cosmoteer sued'

[versed locust]

I guess that means my little nod to Lift Your Skinny Fists is fine then ^^

[inner basalt]

It's a cosm ship!? Oh that's jus,,,,Wait it does a cosm ship!Anyway,really like this

looks sicck

[small breach]

the second ship took less versions to finish hm

really proud of it, also all feedback welcome and appreciated

... speaking of being proud of stuff i forgot a couple of tiles

[tired vapor]

black on bottom is too dividery imo

[small breach]

honestly i feel the opposite, the black on the railgun block looks like it isn't cutting it up enough

other internals are much more like the bottom of the ship whereas it's more like the armor

[small breach]

updated rails

is it better or no?

[night plover]

Different rather than better or worse in my opinion.

[small breach]

@mortal cave are paintcards allowed if they're not the only paint on the ship/focus of the paint? asking because for a civilian ship i wanna make i put in parts of other ships i had and one of them had a paintcard(one of yours, you can probably see the saris was here) as a background for a second paint layer

[small breach]

even further updated, rails changed slightly, made the 2 curves the same direction because opposite looked weird

did that while half asleep so i may have messed up a bit

[small breach]

also would it be better with autoram or without?

[small breach]

is this tree enough?

[bleak garnet]

Organic

Tree/3

[toxic ocean]

I give it a score of tree/3

[toxic ocean]

Damnit somebody else beat me to it XD

[small breach]

i also only now got the joke lol

[small breach]

the infinity stones!!!

[toxic ocean]

Damn you guys be going crazy with all these cryptid designs.

Was it ever specified as a suggested theme or is it like a subconcieous thing? 😅

[lament skiff]

[small breach]

subconscious for me

[past bramble]

it as a theme just standout, same with other more eldritch, organic or natural themes

[lament skiff]

just flashier I think n ppl wanna win

[grizzled sequoia]

@mortal cave is using too many corridors for decorative purpose allowed?
or it depend on the ship combat capability?

and what do you think about ships that based on other things that isn't translate well if using it's top down view like these

nautilus is side view and cherubim from view, both as top down view

[mortal cave]

Using structure decorationally is fine, but the ship should be capable of fighting decently.

As for the 'resembling things' question, I've forwarded it to Walt and will get back to you!

[night plover]

Better not look at the back part of my Eyes beyond too closely 😅
Though I guess it does quite well in battle helper.

[desert trail]

well i guess it is good

[night plover]

What did that to what?

[desert trail]

damage from shestopher to a ship for the contest

shestopher got eviscerated]

[late zenith]

the splitter i'm guessing?

[night plover]

That one probably

[desert trail]

yep

i did change the colors cause it was messing with my brain, and honistly i think it looks more intmidateing now

[mortal cave]

@grizzled sequoia From Walt:

Vague resemblance seems fine. I think the test is, "is this obviously a ship, or is it art disguised as a ship?" Both those cases feel "obviously a ship" to me. Inspired by something is fine as long as it still feels like a ship.

[lament skiff]

Walt is wise

[dusty orchid]

welp my 3 ship is done (would say that earlier but I was a sleep)

[small breach]

finished the last of my ships, any thoughts and/or feedback are appreciated(tho feedback is appreciated more)

[night plover]

Definitely something I could see an independent Cosmoteer (on funky alien drugs) fly around.

[small breach]

independent cosmoteer on funky alien drugs sounds exactly like me

[toxic ocean]

I'm very disappointed in my 3mil ship's combat performance, struggles killing things half its price...

Its one gimmick of killing flankers it is good at, but not as good as something else like a missiler would've been.

Maybe I should just scrap it.

[slow axle]

Before you scrap it I would like to see it because being good at killing flankers is pretty good not gonna lie

[toxic ocean]

#1059085469708734515 message @past bramble this is not #competitive-ships, Excelsior is in another room 😭

[past bramble]

i kind of have just given up

lol

so i decided shitposting is the plan

i have forgotten how to paint

[toxic ocean]

Sad... You're a great painter though.

[toxic ocean]

Saaame actually

I stand no chance

[past bramble]

atleast i got 1 proper entry in

not really aiming for the win honestly

[toxic ocean]

I was but after Bakhmut but moteso Satguru I've given up, top 10 is fine for me.

[past bramble]

i had this idea of like some frankenstein eldrict monster from pvp ship but i just cant get it to look right

i got 1 more entry buts its most likely a rework of royal prick to be legal

[past bramble]

missiles seems to be the Best AI weapons, mostly because it will accidentally hit something useful, AI prio defense too much imo

locked ion and CG are 2nd or third

[desert trail]

one of the ships ive poseted sucks at killing anything but ioncores, so its probibly fine

[slow axle]

Well if I understood and remember correctly combat efficiency is just to get your ships in career? You can get master of design regardless of how it performs

[past bramble]

ya that is not happening since satguru

[lament skiff]

i still avent built nothin

im cooked gang

[mortal cave]

There's no pressure or anything!

[lament skiff]

My competitive spirit says otherwise

[mortal cave]

It's literally not a competition

[lament skiff]

well

only one person can get MoD

so it is for me

[weak moth]

just post like 8003 old ships im sure one of em will get through

[lament skiff]

Getting a ship in the game wouldn’t be particularly difficult for me, but I wanna WIN

[weak moth]

try cheating

[lament skiff]

We don’t do that here at Monolith

[desert trail]

isint that one of the core tendants of monolith tho?, throw money at problum till it dissapears

[lament skiff]

that’s called fair business practice

[versed locust]

I thought I would be the only few doing weird artsy designs xD The three ships I've submitted are ones I've always had an idea of but never got around to making it until the ship drive gave me the motivation

I'm happy to see all the others too, you guys are doing a great job!

[small breach]

imagine aiming for the stars having ambition and a competitive spirit and not giving up and accepting lowly victories instead lmao couldn't be me

[toxic ocean]

I wanna win too but with the thick crust of rust casting me makes it rather difficult so I'd be fine with just ship in game.

[small breach]

smh shoulda built your skill out of aluminium

[lament skiff]

Skilless steel

[lament skiff]

oh i just got a good idea

if anyone here knows mechquest you KNOW

[desert trail]

Is it like battletech?

[lament skiff]

depends how you mean

[desert trail]

Mech fighting, missiles and chain guns probably

[night plover]

I think I finally found the missing piece for my third ship idea that might get this into the game:

[lament skiff]

Well it does include all three of those things yes

[dusty orchid]

Man I may have a chance (not a big one but still a chance)

[lament skiff]

wow a pretty… ship-like… ship, from meekoz

Pretty sick

[night plover]

Players not in the endgame: Dang, didn't they say Independents were added? Barely saw any.
Players in the endgame: 😵‍💫 Time to reload I guess...

[versed locust]

xD

[vernal lance]

neo genesis? is that an evangelion?

[hazy edge]

stole the joke from me smh smh

[small breach]

holy shit you're evil grant i never noticed

[desert trail]

i have several bootleg emojis

[small breach]

ik about them i was there when they were created it's just that i only now realise you still used them lol
edit: oh thankgod that was the regular in the react and not the bootleg one i would've lost my mind(even tho i don't have much of a mind left as i am dead)

[tired vapor]

@mortal cave why no solo and collab submissions together? why not have max. 3 submission (solo + collab) per person or something like that

[small breach]

and also i've yet to get an answer on this i think, unless i missed something

[mortal cave]

I like seeing ships preemptively in other places that then get posted. People are so excited to show em off :D #ships message

[mortal cave]

For that paint card specifically that I made to troll people in creative games, probably not. Past that, I would say you should avoid it because they're perceived to be low quality, but otherwise, if you think it looks good, then there's no reason why not

[tired vapor]

can someone forward this to him :( he has me blocked

[small breach]

replaced it with regular paint

[night plover]

??? vs Thanatos: 1 to 1 (Got stuck on the front spikes the first time...)

[night plover]

Seeing as ship 3 can beat a bunch of flagships and my largest career ship in 1v1, while being a T17, is there an upper limit to combat capability where we should include a weakness? (I guess it can get flanked if it chooses the wrong target)

[small breach]

i mean from what saris previously said not really for factions and this is independents so there's even less saying they can't just lock in and be really hard to beat, also worth noting i think this is perfectly fine because by 17 systems the price gap between player money and ship tier will be so massive it's not going to be too bad

unless it's a kite then uh we have problems probably but i'm sure it's still somewhat fine

[mortal cave]

The requirement is to look pretty, of course. If it's an unpainted competitive vessel, then it'll be almost certainly disqualified. So concessions should be made to the functionality to ensure the aesthetic appeal, but there's no strict limit on how effective ships can be

[dusty orchid]

sadly Im better at making ships work in a weird way than making a ship look good

[night plover]

Not a kite, no worries ^^

[night plover]

Kites don't usually leave the weapons intact while your back is fries

[versed locust]

Thought I'd show off all the building progress that are saved separately of all three of my submissions (Medjed was my quickest build, so there's just the two)

[mortal cave]

Very interesting to me how you briefly went back to a linear design before going back to diagonals for that bottom one.

[night plover]

Finally done!

[versed locust]

The initial had more focus on overclocked shields with more direct damage from the canister missiles, which was a bit frustrating to set up and improve on in diagonal, so I switched to linear to workshop it further.
Once I found and liked the idea of the big armor front piece with minimal shields, I switched back to diagonal to further improve on that idea. ^-^
I totally could've continued with the linear design, but I knew that it was going to be more reliable to paint the faces in diagonal. (you can actually see me testing out the sideways face shape in the first one if you look closely at its armor, so the idea had always been there :p)

[versed locust]

Yay! I love the style of your ships btw

[night plover]

Thanks!

Here's my prototype board, though I think I discarded some early ideas...

[versed locust]

hehehe nicee

[night plover]

I originally wanted it to split off some pests, but that proved impossible at least with the size of the build grid and my other plans + skills XD

[dusty orchid]

I would show my prototypes but I dont have any and any that I had were turned into the ships and I didnt save them as prototyypes

[night plover]

At some point after new modules posted over at Excelsior brought me to the idea of ditching all but heat weapons I realized I basically built a bigger version of Medjed...

[versed locust]

That's very flattering to me, because I think you a lot of things better in Embalmed Starlight xD
also, I was hyped when I realized the MRT simply kept going up

[night plover]

Giant MRT orbiter was basically my starting idea XD

[past bramble]

hmm i thought there will be alot more attempts at civ/transport ships

[desert trail]

Wait was that an option

[night plover]

It was unclear at the start and then confirmed later, though with a limit of 1 million credits to prevent giant loot piles.

[late zenith]

man if only I had kept my prototypes for my other two ships. I only have the stuff used to make Gilt Warhorse V, and that one had a much longer construction time than the other two

[night plover]

• Makes front and back
• build grid too small
  Would be funny ^^

[versed locust]

I should make a proper splitter at some point, they look fun...

[late zenith]

gilt warhorse v almost took the whole length of build grid, it wasnt that far off

[small breach]

i personally didn't have much variation in builds but defo alot in paint(might not be that noticeable tho, each one of those 3 small combat ships was painted in a completely different way), the biggest ship bittersweet bittergem did have a couple of reworks but that was very limited

and the last ship also had no variants idk how i just nailed that first try

[median patio]

are stations allowed?

i assume not

[mortal cave]

Not for the time being, no

Maybe next time

[cyan yew]

I've been wanting to make some ships for the design contest but haven't done so yet. If I do, I'm only going to make small ships because they are quick and easy to make.

[night plover]

That would also balance out the current price distribution XD

[late zenith]

cheapest ships currently end up at 300k rn

[night plover]

@left geode That's not a ship file, that's a screenshot. You wanna save the ship via the menu and then get the pic from the ships folder.

[left geode]

my fault lmfao

thanks for letting me know

you'd think years of playing i wouldnt do shit like that 😭

[night plover]

I heard a particular station had zero airlock doors 😉

[inner basalt]

@mortal cave Sorry to bother you,but I want to know Does each part of spiters need to have sufficient hyperspace efficiency?

[night plover]

No

Only the reverse thrust must be above 10m/s

[night plover]

#1059084974655033415 message

[inner basalt]

Oh,thanks!

I hope I'm still in time to complete my work. I was too busy before, but now I finally have some free time!!!

[night plover]

I do wonder how reasonable combat ability will be evaluated. Theoretically you'd need to test each ship against different archetypes of enemies in the same price range and see if it at least loses closely?

[mortal cave]

Its a fairly wide range. Its more a measure so that ships aren't egregiously weak and thusly loot piñatas

[lament skiff]

What about if they’re extremely efficient

[lament skiff]

3 days 3 ships to make

[desert trail]

@toxic ocean

-# i probibly didint need to do that but eh.

[mortal cave]

Already addressed higher up

[lament skiff]

Oh i see

[toxic ocean]

I could lock in and spend entirety of today building and painting.

On another hand, the university

[small breach]

rip

[past bramble]

submit old creations like i did

surely you have a backlog of sotd ships that you can just toss in

[night plover]

Or that new years mine layer, would love to see that ingame

[toxic ocean]

Not just that, I have a backlog of slightly late DC submissions

[desert trail]

honistly anything would be cool,

[inner basalt]

I remembered that I had forgotten to upload the permission given to me by others

[mortal cave]

You're going to, right?

[desert trail]

hey saris you should submit a ship

[inner basalt]

Do I need to translate it into English

[mortal cave]

No, I don't think that's necessary

Also, are you going to submit ships yourself, by the way?

[inner basalt]

I’m working on this

I'm converting the throne into a 3m ship

And I already make a railgun ship but havn't paint

I'm not very satisfied with the Wolf ship, so I won't submit it

[night plover]

Another rail splitter, poor players ^^

[lament skiff]

players are gonna HATE when cosmoteers get added

[night plover]

"Never touch the independents, I tell ya"

[mortal cave]

Shout out to like half the contestants for using OC small thrust as the only form of their reverse

[lament skiff]

Based

[mortal cave]

Here's the present lineup! 50 ships in total, exactly, thus far

[proud cypress]

me everyday.

also I thought you have to build original ships for the drive, no?

[lament skiff]

nothing technically stops you from posting old ships

as long as it fits the criteria

[desert trail]

Nice

[mortal cave]

If a ship fails to make it in I'll probably add a clause that you can't resubmit a ship that already failed

[night plover]

So when is the next ship drive? Gotta have some ships to add every patch now like with the other factions 😉

[hazy edge]

civilians I'm assuming

[night plover]

Or limited to 400k credits or so XD

[late zenith]

I think my first submission Wandering Duelist is missing from that image, should I just repost all of the submissions together to make it easier for them to find

[mortal cave]

You see, I saw that it was posted in 2025 and thought it was a previous contest! Thanks for spotting it, I'll add it!

[late zenith]

lol

[mortal cave]

I was thinking that they would be a bi-monthly thing. Do keep in mind that there still isn't any infrastracture to utilize independents, even if they are added

[lament skiff]

I’m for it

This month is cooked for me

I want another one ASAPPPP

[night plover]

Nice!

[lament skiff]

-# im probably getting fired soon so ill have more free time

[mortal cave]

Well, silver linings, I guess

[open stag]

I can speedrun this

[small breach]

oh hey itchy i haven't seen you around in a while, really hope you can make it, i wanna see what you'll cook up

[desert trail]

Same

[toxic ocean]

I can runspeed this

I'll have juicy free time tonight

You will witness me pull a textbook Nick maneuvre

[inner basalt]

WAIT

I'm not sure. This railgun uses electricity but is not connected to the reactor

It shouldn't violate the rules, right？

[left geode]

How is it powered?

I think the rules state everywhere has to be accessible without airlocks

Save for storages

[night plover]

I think for splitters this should be fine

Otherwise rosehip and jewjuice would have to change their designs as well and those have been submitted for a while now.

[inner basalt]

It is used for self-explosion

The overclocking railgun will ignite itself and then be able to separate the ship into two ships

[vernal lance]

it's simply utilizing the janus technique

janus, for reference

[left geode]

Ahhhh ok

[median patio]

Oh lord I have a perfect idea for a ship
Can't wait to build it after school

[tired vapor]

if a player baits a shot and then waits a while, it mjgh not burn

right?

[inner basalt]

Yep

[night plover]

I guess at that point their piloting won them a chance to fight an unsplit railgun splitter ^^

[simple valve]

Gonna make a merger to counter all these splitters (I will not I do not know how to make one)

[inner basalt]

I just realized that it would be very funny if my work was completed but my vpn couldn't be used

I'd better pass on my completed ship right now

[proud cypress]

I couldn't find the time to build an original ship for the drive, so I'm turning in a civil design I've already built instead :P

oh- actually I just noticed a flaw, I gotta resubmit it

[night plover]

You make me want to check the assignments on my ships as well...

Fck!

XD

[inner basalt]

It's not as good as before, but now I have no time lmao

[night plover]

Fixed assignments...

[toxic ocean]

These splitters are kinda becoming stale, when everyone uses the same gimmick it becomes a cliche and those are no fun.

[inner basalt]

Even I myself am using..... But I agree.

[lament skiff]

For this specific contest they’re quite prevalent, but overall it’s a pretty new concept

[grizzled sequoia]

now that it's done kinda regret didn't make the other 2 as slifer and obelisk

[night plover]

Unless the price range changes, you can add them in two months or so

[grizzled sequoia]

Next one is civilians I believe

[dusty orchid]

ok NOW my ships are gona get to the bottom or close to it when they are ranked

[lament skiff]

sounds like saris plans to do another shop drive in 2 months

hopefully

Tentatively

[mortal cave]

I briefly misread that as slop drive and considered smiting you

[toxic ocean]

Hehehe

[median patio]

is there also walts pick for this contest?

[desert trail]

probibly, (i hope)

[cyan yew]

Are all of the design contest ships that get accepted be added into career as spawnable npcs? And will the next ship drive be a civilian one?

[lament skiff]

a little late perhaps but I just received the most divine inspiration

https://tenor.com/view/ironman-tony-stark-forge-gif-10677756

[open stag]

mightn hav time for other

[inner basalt]

NICE

I DONE IT

Although I was too anxious and didn't do it as well as expected, I managed to finish it!

[versed locust]

congrats!

[lament skiff]

Is sick af 🔥

[inner basalt]

Thanks!

[mortal cave]

No- only ships that pass dev-approval will be accepted into the game. Maybe, I'm not sure for the next contest question

[lament skiff]

i thiiink you misread the first question

[mortal cave]

Ships that do pass dev-approval will eventually be used as independents, though I don't know what that entails

[lament skiff]

btw is there 2 or 26 hrs left

or however many til midnight

[mortal cave]

Twenty six

[proud cypress]

I will say, I hope the ship AI gets updated because unfortunately despite being able to go above 10m/s in reverse, the VX-PitStop has the worst piloting I've ever seen :(

any time it tries to leave a station it accidentally flies into the station, reverses, then flies right into it again, then gets stuck and pushes it for eternity

[lament skiff]

it need more turning power

[proud cypress]

it rly does

[slow axle]

boo this guy

[small breach]

it'll take a long time tho

probably lik 6x or 10x regular railgun reload time

[hazy edge]

the one assym light

[toxic ocean]

How mucc time left

[cyan yew]

Till midnight.

[toxic ocean]

Where midnight

[cyan yew]

At UTC-7. It says it on this google doc.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ep6TRsDYrTVpjDcW5NOMzdUTituBYIbEs9rwQtQT5Og/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.j8zpr2xoc0oy

[desert trail]

around 14 hours i think

[toxic ocean]

Okie dok

So 5 hours left and I am very busy

It says it ends at 1Am according to my conversion

[lament skiff]

it ends in 15 hrs

well 14 hrs 37 min

[mortal cave]

10 hours and 50 minutes now

[open stag]

Speedrun time yet again

[toxic ocean]

Alrightyyy I have the whole midnight :)

This thing is so fragile I'm considering changing out the flak for armour.

What do y'all think?

[night plover]

Maybe keep the outermost ones?

[lament skiff]

My divine inspiration failed

Just got home from work time to grind AGAIN

[toxic ocean]

Good luckk

My divine inspiration comes from history and it never dries up!

[desert trail]

5 hours remain, (i think)

aparintly its 8 and a half

[toxic ocean]

somebody uttered Shevardnadze's unmentionable fucking name and power went out for an hour

well, only a minor setback

[vernal lance]

didn't have any ideas for the third ship so 2 it is

[toxic ocean]

suffering

[versed locust]

the tension of waiting for the last few submissions to be done is genuinely making me think of more ship ideas- really feeling the spiritual pressure in this chat lol

[toxic ocean]

Only thing I'm feeling is tireness and odd sense of nationalism for the ancient persian empire

[toxic ocean]

IT'S DONE!!!

It could've been better with time, but for what hand I got given, I am proud!!

Now sleep.

Only sleep

[weak moth]

moose doing hoop tricks

also

[toxic ocean]

IT'S A FUCKIN' AHURAMAZDAH-

Oh noo

What did I break

[weak moth]

peice of armor bloks ur ions

epik

got that major stressmaxxing energy

[toxic ocean]

Could you PLEASE take my ship, remove those pieces of armour so that all ions fire and resubmit it by proxy?

I turned off the pc

[weak moth]

ye oki

[toxic ocean]

Thaaanks

I'll paint a ship for you in exchange :>

Oh also paste in the lore while at it, I forgor

[weak moth]

slightly illegal btw

[toxic ocean]

OH NO

FUUUCK I didn't turn huge ships off

That disquallifies me probably??

[weak moth]

too big to just recenter

idk

[toxic ocean]

@mortal cave Is this disqualifying?

(If so biggles I hope you can also remove the acrobatic moose or smth)

:[

Most trade stations are illegal, but to be fair I don't think any warships are

[weak moth]

i mean

i could just like

decapicate it

or should it be left flat

i just made it a triangle cause i couldnt get the spiky bit to work

pointy nose

[toxic ocean]

Thank you so much biggles

[weak moth]

yeee

[toxic ocean]

Did you paste in the lore?

[weak moth]

was in the ship when i loaded it

[toxic ocean]

#1059085469708734515 message this one I mean

[weak moth]

ah shit

[toxic ocean]

EHH forget it won't bother you anymore

[weak moth]

fixxed

also u miss spelled "outputd" instead of "outputs"

bottom right prism is also messed up on origional

also fixxed

assuming it goes to the down prism ye?

[open stag]

the ships seems to have some overheating/energy issues when flying forward

[weak moth]

o ye

[mortal cave]

Yes ships need to fit into the build grid

[weak moth]

also now fixxed, + added two 2x2 storages cause i didnt see any on the thing for non-emp

and modified paint to fit the modifications

bouta get included as collaberator

[median patio]

10 minutes left

lemme cook up a ship in 3 minutes

done

wait nvm there was no reverse 💀

im dumb there is another 3 hours

lol

i dont plan on making another ship anyway

[weak moth]

well at least post the one u just made here like cmon, we need to see

[median patio]

ship from a couple months ago

does extremely well for its price

[versed locust]

Last minute fix for Satguru that I'm glad I caught (I may have forgotten to add a spare storage space)

[weak moth]

ye yall best not forgor da storage

instant ip ban if u do

[weak moth]

the legendary 2 hour ship is done

i even remembered cargo

[night plover]

Hmm, if someone had submitted a kite with less than 10m/s forward speed, would that have been fine?

[slim fog]

Use this file I forgot the storage

[tired vapor]

oh no

played mc for too long

[bitter ocean]

My boat has a door that I forgot to install. Will there be any problems?

[mortal cave]

I'll add it back. Everyone who finds a problem on the ship and stuff will be able to dm me the fixes as well

[bitter ocean]

thanks

[toxic ocean]

Thanks for all your services biggles, You get a free 1.5mil paint from me <3

[vernal lance]

time to lose community poll again

[inner basalt]

time to lose community poll again

Actually, I am a mystic prophet from the East, and I've already seen who the destined champion is.

[toxic ocean]

Yeah and it's definitely not me

[dusty orchid]

time to lose community poll

again ||?||

[desert trail]

time to exist in the community poll

[past bramble]

my money is on either jewjuice or meekoz for 1st tho i can see greenshicken and mirosqueen getting it too

[small breach]

i think mirosqueen and jewjuice have the best chance

...looking back meekoz's ships were better than i remembered they're probably taking this

[late zenith]

my votes for master of desig are between meekoz and mirosqueen

[lament skiff]

Too many good ones to decide

[late zenith]

i just pray my ships make it through dev testing, i swear testing ships on my own turns into a rock paper scissors game

[weak moth]

pov every post meltdown ship match:

[left geode]

thats mostly what im worried about too

i think mine look good enough but scared for their performance or that i forgot something thats really important or smth

[toxic ocean]

Meekoz ships are always good, that's why my votes are usually devoted towards more underrated but great builds. Miro's got it!

[night plover]

Now the tricky question: How many updates will it take for half the ship drive to burn down due to oc changes?

(And will Saris have to fix all of them)

[versed locust]

☝️ 1

[small breach]

0.1

[weak moth]

none, they will burn down by themselves

[late zenith]

one of my ships used to be super heat efficient and became slightly less heat efficient

[open stag]

wait

im dumb

nvm

as usual

[inner basalt]

I'm evil so I'm voting for myself.

[night plover]

Is the vote closing time mentioned nowhere or did I miss it?

[night plover]

Well, I kinda read only the first sentence in that line apparently. And it's already over.

[elfin venture]

wdym its already over

oh lol

i think that's meant to be February

[inner basalt]

So this means I can vote as much as I want. I thought I could only vote for one person in a group

[vernal lance]

@ sariswinterwisp how are we supposed to vote when the deadline is already due

[night plover]

You can, yeah. I voted for all the ones I liked best.

Makes the decision much easier.

[inner basalt]

nice

[elfin venture]

same here
while ignoring the demon going "vote for yourself and literally no one else" because that's mean

[vernal lance]

voting for yourself and no one else is quite boring

[lament skiff]

I’m too competitive to vote for myself

Well

Theoretically

[past bramble]

what is this group of death bro

[night plover]

Alphabetical order, should have changed your name 😅

[inner basalt]

true

[mortal cave]

You simply have a year to vote

[slow axle]

Well I feel like everyone deserve my vote

I also want to mention that I did not downloaded the save file and simply voted scrolling through the submissions

I noticed I wasn't alone during my own contests hence why I prefer using forms and include ship thumbnail 😅

[mortal cave]

The thought process behind my approach is that it's harder to tamper with and doesn't require people to go out of their way to use an additional tool. Only requiring discord to participate makes the process much simpler

[dusty orchid]

the thing just started and its not looking good for me

[grizzled sequoia]

Is there going to be some statistics for this ship drive too?

[night plover]

Meltdown would be perfect for wacky statistics like "most endangered heating" and "level of Spaghetti piping"

[left geode]

I might actually have that first one 😭😭😭 the incomparable runs very hot

[small breach]

i want to know my pc/m^2 (pipe crossing per square metre)

[open stag]

Ofc one must know who wins in a ffa
https://discordapp.com/channels/314103695568666625/530901882219003908/1468066092856643627

[dusty orchid]

Almoust 2 days and my votes look exacly the same as how I left them

[small breach]

same

[vernal lance]

oh wow i gained one vote

[toxic ocean]

You deserve more Corpo :(

My only hope is I get into the top 10, don't need no more

[proud cypress]

I’m a bit sad I have so few votes but I didn’t cook up any big or new vessels for it so I don’t really mind :P

[lament skiff]

Votes complete

[past bramble]

we fell of a cliff

tho i should be expecting these results with what i submitted

[median patio]

I wonder what walts pick will be

[mortal cave]

There isn't actually a Walt's pick this time round. This system kind of makes it so that they're all partially Walt's pick

[desert trail]

It is Feb 9th now

[mortal cave]

Indeed indeed. For posterity's sake, here are the votes as of roughly midnight that I barely remembered to take

[night plover]

Hmm, should I just vote for everyone?

[mortal cave]

Vote for who you think should win and did the best job, or simply vote for yourself. Voting for everyone is the same as not voting at all

[night plover]

I know ^^
Still a hard choice

[mortal cave]

...Not that there's anything wrong with that, but the effects are identical

I personally believe Green Shicken and Mirosqueen are the most worthy on the basis of doing stuff with the paint system that I've never seen before

[lament skiff]

saris swaying da votes

[night plover]

(There's also no Master of Design II role, so...)

[small breach]

i think i like jewjuice's ships the most, it's a style i haven't seen done by anyone else much and one that i like a ton

speaking of which i wonder where yaddah went

iirc they're the other person who paints ships like that (tho their style is much much cleaner)

[inner basalt]

So is it still ok to vote for multiple people? And may I ask when the voting will close?

[lament skiff]

yes you can vote multiple

latter q idk @mortal cave

[mortal cave]

Yes you can vote for multiple and in a week

[tepid quartz]

Shicken for the win though

✨

[inner basalt]

I hope soTo be honest, I thought Meekoz will win again.It seems that I am not some kind of Eastern prophet.

[desert trail]

i mean in the first round voteing you were 1st, so theres a chance

[median patio]

Let's go I made it into the second bracket

Highly improbable I will win

[inner basalt]

Wow,who vote to this guy

[slow axle]

When does that second poll ends?

or how much can I postpone my vote

[inner basalt]

#1059084974655033415 message @slow axle

[slow axle]

Thank you!

I will also assume the first and second round will last the same time

[long oasis]

Aaaaaah why didn't i finish my ship

Knew the style was gonna be a great idea

[proud cypress]

I'm handing my vote to Mirosqueen - there were a ton of absolutely amazing ships submitted this time around, that look totally awesome, but Mirosqueen's designs are just absolutely jaw dropping. I earnestly had no idea you could even build stuff like this in Cosmoteer especially with how much I feel like I wrestle the painting system literally constantly

[inner basalt]

I feel like I'll be nervous for a week

Every time I check the number of votes, I always have the same number as him

[night plover]

What happens if there is a tie at the end?

[inner basalt]

I remember it happened before. There will be a third round where two players choose one（My memory is a bit hazy. Maybe that's wrong）

[versed locust]

I've been loving the style of your ships before and especially in this ship drive, so you definitely have my vote, GreenShicken ^^

[slow axle]

Even so if you only get the second place it shows your talent ^^

[inner basalt]

Oh,thanks!

[mortal cave]

That was for previous contests. I think a better arrangement is to just have the top two placements both get the role, personally

[weak moth]

if we just make sure that every player ties, then we can all get the role! jenius idea!

[mortal cave]

Good luck lmao

[small breach]

five. hundred. alt accounts.

(instead of printing out the accounts it prints out a ban from all future design contests)

[toxic ocean]

Yay I'm in top 10! I'll take it any day of the week, will wrestle for that Mustard of Desing role maybe in the next millennium.

[vernal lance]

i forgot about the fact that you still don't have it because red role™

[inner basalt]

Wait what

I thoght you're

So you're the champion of elim?

Soooooo cooooool

You're so proficient in both elimination mode and painting

I'm completely incapable of playing pvp

[small breach]

as another pvp player paint i disagree it's fun especially when i get to do shit like this because new players wanted to check it out

[inner basalt]

I don't like pvp,one reason is that I'm not good at operating the ship.But mainly because I might be ridiculed by some players.Once, a person insisted on having a pvp with me, but he clearly knew that I never played elim.Then he was very pleased after winning easily,just make me unhappy.And although I am the administrator of the Chinese community, out of respect for all players, I cannot just kick him out directly.Since it's obvious that he has not violated any rules

[slow axle]

I have had that feeling in the past too

against stronger players and people who knew they would win easily against my ship

[toxic ocean]

Not am, was :(

I won this role in 2022

Haven't played pvp in a hot minute

Last time I frequented elimination was still pre-meltdown when I made my beloved tunnel bore against tbrails.

Thanks for kind words though ;)

[small breach]

wasn't it late 2023?

phew it [was](#tournament-announcements message) i thought i was old wait that was 3 years ago

[lament skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[small breach]

back in my day you made ion orbiters 🧓

[lament skiff]

ocions being bad for orbiters made me sad

[slow axle]

the save file simply crash on low end computers

I don't think I have any easy way to look at the ships

[night plover]

When loading or when unpausing?

[lament skiff]

cant u just drag em into ur game?

[slow axle]

When loading

It either crash the game or my whole computer

[night plover]

Oof

[night plover]

If you trust a random person on the internet, this only has the ships of the 9 2nd round people

[night plover]

I'd love to see two new masters of design at once and maybeee it will happen.

[inner basalt]

We should cast two votes for meekoz, and then we'll have three champions

[left geode]

Literally could not agree more

[median patio]

Vote for me we will tie for mustard of dezing

[lament skiff]

Everyone give yourself 1 vote and we all win MoD

[desert trail]

lol

[night plover]

I didn't only because meekoz is already master of design but I added one.

[small breach]

voted

three way tie baybeee

[toxic ocean]

That's the problem of an open public vote, people can alter and manipulate it like this.

I prefer the Blakeian system of google forms much moreso

[mortal cave]

"Problem"

Is it all that much of a problem?

[slow axle]

I don't think so I actually find it heartwarming we choose as a community that three persons deserve the role

[desert trail]

it is kinda funny

[small breach]

tbh i think almost everyone that made it into the list deserves the role

[night plover]

"Almost"

[small breach]

it's only almost because nick only made one ship 😔

but still though this ship drive was so stacked

tonnes of really good ships all around

[night plover]

And tons of pain for the players...

[small breach]

that too, we all did our best to launch the skill floor upwards

[versed locust]

I'm super proud of everyone's work, and I'm glad I was able to participate with ideas that so many of you enjoyed ^-^
I'm also very flattered and happy to share a spot with two of my favorite painters in the master of design votes!!

[inner basalt]

Lmao,I just joke,we really plan to do that?

[desert trail]

it would be cool

-# plus it thins out the pool for people who get the tag for next year/months

[toxic ocean]

Well it holds no meaning for meekoz since they already have the role but you do you

[lament skiff]

I was joking personally

I voted for who I actually think should win

[night plover]

I mean, it works out doing just that for me ^^

[night plover]

Dang, if the voting ended yesterday, we would have had a three way tie.

[small breach]

there's still a chance if someone unvotes shicken

[small breach]

i'm not even on the list

[inner basalt]

I can vote for myself right now and then I can become the sole champion(evil laugh）

[median patio]

I'm assuming that we will get architect comments later?

[toxic ocean]

dew it, muahaha party ruined!1!

[tepid quartz]

Isn’t meekoz already master of design

[open stag]

Master of Design ^2

[grizzled sequoia]

Hmm actually if I win this one it will be my fourth MoD

So ^4?

[weak moth]

greedy, like save some for the rest of us smh

[night plover]

Skill issue /j

[inner basalt]

So

Has the voting ended?

[night plover]

It's been over a week, but I imagine the devs might be too busy to finish it?

Oh wait, Saris reacted to that.

[inner basalt]

Wow,so I guess it's happy ending now

[versed locust]

🎉

[inner basalt]

🎉

[mortal cave]

I actually took a screenshot on my phone yesterday so that the results would be recorded and I would be able to finish it when I felt up to it and such

[slow axle]

🎉

[toxic ocean]

GGs!!

[bleak garnet]

GGzz

[small breach]

congrats on the triple MoD!! atleast i hope there's going to be a triple

[late zenith]

triple MoD would be wild, everyone brought the quality up so much compared to previous ship drives / contests

[median patio]

Congratulations to everyone who had fun🎉

[mortal cave]

Behold; the winners:

[median patio]

I made it 🎉 🎉 🎉

https://tenor.com/view/yuh-huh-cat-kruh-cat-kruh-silly-cat-gif-10813258442275288528

[median patio]

quite a few diagonal ships this contest huh?

[mortal cave]

I was thinking initially "Really? I don't think so" but yeah 8/13 of the winners are diagonal

[left geode]

I DID IT ! I REALLY DIDNT THINK ID MAKE IT

YIPPIEEEEEE

[night plover]

Surprised it's only so few.

[night plover]

Like a bunch I was thinking would be sure picks aren't in?

[proud cypress]

ack, I'm saddened I couldn't get any ships in :( but I didn't make any brand new designs for the drive so I'm not too bummed

congrats to everyone who got their ships in :) well done

also yeah I gotta agree, there are way less ships present than I expected

[vernal lance]

i have a suspicion that my ships didnt look good enough

[cyan yew]

Its a shame that some of the submissions that looked really good didn't win. Ulkusus and Jewjuice had some really cool and intricate designs and could have fit well into career mode.

[slow axle]

🎉

I wonder if the number of "spots" were limited or the added ships are just those who got 3/4 of votes

[inner basalt]

GG!

[toxic ocean]

Same...

I was up at 6AM without payoff :(

@mortal cave I want to ask, since the ships getting in was once again decided by the Architect vote, are we allowed to see who voted what or not and also potentially the optional feedback that we had recieved in the first shipdrive?

[past bramble]

pretty pls

the feedback part mostly

we shouldnt see who voted or not, i think its for the best if thats completely anonymized

[toxic ocean]

Well we saw it the first time so at least whe could know why was it hidden this time.

[past bramble]

they didnt tho?

you are thinking of the last design contest

not the first ship drive

we didnt know the architect voting of the previous ship drive

[toxic ocean]

Oh shoot true.

We just recieved the answers there.

I kinda miss the Blakeian system.

[past bramble]

anyway its reduces the chances for drama with it being anonymous

[dusty orchid]

and as I though

[grizzled sequoia]

I too do think feedback is necessary, because ship drive premises is it can allow as many ships to get in game, and in my opinion there is a lot good designed ships that I feel like it should been made in, but idk about some rules that prevented it from getting accepted or what is the architects standard for built-in ship, I may or may not know why my 2 other ships doesn't made in, but I'm not sure if it's the case, so unless the architects point it out why I never know, and I can prevent that same mistake for the future, at least maybe give some feedback through dm to the author for the ships with no obvious mistake to let us know

[night plover]

I do hope that, if there is feedback, then it is made public so that others can understand why other peoples ships weren't voted for even though they were popular with the players.

[mortal cave]

It wasn't only architects voting (we all saw what happened last time), and the only basis for voting was on whether or not the individual person believed that it should make it in. If enough people liked it, then it made it in.

There are multiple ships that I voted for that didn't make it in, which I am also disappointed by. If people think that the standard was too high (which I'm inclined to agree with), then moving forward that will be happily lowered.

[toxic ocean]

I would also agree. Standards were indeed far too high. Only 1 Meekoz' ship, and none of Jewjuice's, Ulksus' or Grant's ships making it in is crazy.

[night plover]

I don't mind high standards if they were at least comprehensible. Currently it feels a bit like the scale I applied to judge ships is going into a different direction compared to the combined scale of the voters.

[grizzled sequoia]

If that the case, (I know I'm asking too much for this, especially with how many ships there are) in the future can the voters who didn't vouch their vote for that ship to at least put a 1 word feedback, 1 word is enough for me, 1 word is all I need to know why they didn't like that ship, for example, if it's the colour/paint scheme just put 'colour', etc, with that 1 word we can figure it out further to prevent the same mistake

[weak moth]

meanwhile triple greenshicken

nothing against green, just seems a bit odd

[mortal cave]

I think that's a good idea. I can't promise the people who vote will do that, but I'll bring it up on the next occasion, and I can give more feedback as well

[grizzled sequoia]

Thank you

[toxic ocean]

Triple green and triple rosehip

Hmm

Their entries were great don't get me wrong.

Would've voted pro them too

[inner basalt]

To be honest, I'm also very surprised.

I told rosehip before that your lighting is very creative but might not quite meet the requirements

I thought my own ship might lose out because it was too unconventional

[slow axle]

Despite you being green I think red is a color that suits you well, now that I see it in chat

[inner basalt]

And I thought the Frozen Throne actually had some design issues, so it wouldn't be selected either

[inner basalt]

Thanks!

I hope I can being green oneday lmao

[late zenith]

well another contest another 3 submissions to the bin

idk think my paint can pop off any harder, i dont have time to refine anything anymore

[proud cypress]

not to add fuel to the fire or anything but I'm scrolling back and a bunch of amazing ships somehow didn't pass. These are the biggest surprises in my opinion.

like all of these (+ the winged avatar of ra) I think deserve to be in the ship drive and some I think surpass some of the drive winners

[dusty orchid]

The worst part is that i lerned how the basic of good painting works JUST after i made my 3 ship

[proud cypress]

lots of really awesome and creative designs from artistic and mechanical standpoints but they just won't be in the game I guess.

I'm aware the drive is already over but it just kind of kills me to see all of these absolutely jaw droppingly creative designs lose out to other ships. It feels like throwing a bunch of really well made meals in the trash.

I'm not going to be rude or anything about it but I firmly believe every ship that scored 2 votes should win the drive.

[dusty orchid]

True but didnt every ship got at least 2 votes? (Exept my first ship apparently)

[inner basalt]

But I think it might also be because there is a quantity limit? Perhaps not too much at a time?

[late zenith]

maybe we did hit them with the quality overload

[proud cypress]

did they? I haven't heard about how voting went down internally

[dusty orchid]

Idk

[proud cypress]

it would at least have been nice to have more variety then

[inner basalt]

variety？

[proud cypress]

yeah - if there's a limited amount of ships, why not admit more ships that look different?

[inner basalt]

Oh

you're right

true

[proud cypress]

I'm not going to label any specific examples because I have 0 ill-will towards anyone who submitted to the contest, but you can see some repeating patterns in the winning designs

[inner basalt]

Thought, it seems that the only thing with the same style is my ship

[proud cypress]

these also feel samey imo

[inner basalt]

I don't think so if you check the details?

[proud cypress]

they're different colors but it's the same principle of spamming spotlights. which doesn't look bad mind you, I think they look awesome, but it's the same sort of creating lots of fog via spotlights

[inner basalt]

Their common point is only that they use a large amount of lighting

[proud cypress]

hmm, I'd slightly disagree with that on the basis the designs are pretty "hollow" but I dont wanna get pedantic lol

[inner basalt]

I agree that her excessive use of lights made several ships look similar, but they are indeed of different styles

[proud cypress]

idrk if there'd be any good way to petition the ship drive counting to admit ships differently/bring the minimum to 2 votes, no channel really seems like the ideal place for it. outside of discord meta maybe

[proud cypress]

weirdly enough this actually makes them feel more similar. both ships are characterized by bone-like chunks separated by black and some color partially filling the space between them

I'd like to make it clear I think it looks awesome and I am quite happy they won the ship drive, ig I'm just trying to make my point about similar looking ships

[inner basalt]

Well, if you think so, the one on the right is actually closer to the style of Canyue or the Quartz one she made herself before for me

I know

[proud cypress]

ic, interesting

[inner basalt]

Just for discussion

[proud cypress]

yeye

Anyway, hopefully I'm not overextending by doing this but I would like everyone who thinks ships with at least 2 votes should make it into the drive to react to this message with a 👍 or 👎 if they disagree. Hopefully everything I've said further up this chain can justify why I'm thinking this way. And just to clarify I do mean for this drive specifically, not for "future drives"

[inner basalt]

Oh, I don't want to cause any trouble for Saris. If it's the next competition, I agree

[mortal cave]

I forwarded this to the dev server, where people who voted and Walt can see and discuss about it

[proud cypress]

thank you!!!

[grizzled sequoia]

@mortal cave may I know, out of 13 ships how many got 4/4 votes?

[mortal cave]

10 of the 13. The distribution on what was the absolute best was fairly consistent, and I say that because if you look at the voting results Green Shicken, You, and Mirosqueen all scored the highest for community voting as well.

[grizzled sequoia]

Interesting

[night plover]

As we already opened the can of discussions: I'm surprised reasonable combat ability is such a wide range.

[small breach]

greenshicken for architect hell yeah

[bleak garnet]

hell yea!!

[toxic ocean]

I wholeheartedly agree. Jewjuice, Ulksus and Rednax getting 0 ships in was a shock.

[small breach]

also did my submissions having illegal colors matter during the (architect)voting? i was thinking about it more and realised maybe i shouldn't've done that

[lament skiff]

I agree

[night plover]

I could see my ships being too eldritch, I'm more curious about stuff like Redshift spaceways, great looking but orthodox ships.

[vernal lance]

i'm too out of my prime and only managed to make generic slop so it makes sense as to why my ships didn't make it in

[toxic ocean]

Same for me in terms of being out of shape.

But I was quite proud of my entry :[