umm EMPS sir
#realistic shield regeneration
torn briar
echo whale
does it stun the shielding?
torn briar
stun isint the right word
suck all the power out of it yes
disable the shiled i think so
echo whale
umm EMPS sir
objection!
shields can be restarted if power is fed immediately right after. there is large in-balance
echo whale
not if it is being constantly drained
torn briar
and they have to move to the power sourse and then to the shield
and in that time alot of damage can be coused
echo whale
i'm not much for having good arguments... but shields should have limit on how much shielding they can output
not limited by the efficiency of their supply
torn briar
i'm not much for having good arguments... but shields should have limit on how m...
yes i agree
shield overload
echo whale
thank you.
i mean it wouldn't effect the EMP and disruptors as much
accept make them even more viable. break the shields faster
tbh, now the fight is the tug of war for which ship has the better supply chain
torn briar
ima just throw 50 nukes
echo whale
i mean, both sides can just use more power... but it still feels fairly unbalanced fight
torn briar
i mean, both sides can just use more power... but it still feels fairly unbalanc...
but still
theres a limit
how much damage shields can take
wintry wind
Shields are fine design wise
Armor bricking is just as viable, and honestly is probably more “meta”
They have to be good so that weapons like ion prisms, missiles, and railguns dont become more op than they already are
Emp missiles and disruptors both rip through shields, and missiles often get around them
echo whale
why should this game have meta?
wintry wind
Because its a video game? Every game has a meta
wintry wind
Its not something that you add or remove from a game because you want or dont want it
Every game has a meta of some sort
Its inherent to video games
torn briar
exept if its perfectly balanced
wintry wind
exept if its perfectly balanced
Still has a meta on different levels most likely
Plus that doesnt exist
echo whale
i mean there is always something to abuse... but i think shields are kinda overpowered in that regard they have no inherent limit on how much they output
wintry wind
Meh, their limit is more that they can only take so much damage at once
And also that emp/disruptor exists
echo whale
but, if you could somehow output infinite power to them... they become unbreakable
torn briar
and one problem to that
echo whale
that every other gun has this limit
torn briar
lets just take the big shield
wintry wind
What? No
torn briar
it has 45K health
wintry wind
Disruptors are pure energy
elfin lotus
shields are imo overly important to players and less so to enemies. Because npc's don't have to survive but you do. So shields just kind of feel bad either way. They have to be strong enough to protect your ship but not so strong the player can't defeat the NPC's.
wintry wind
They dont even have a limit
torn briar
if we deal 45k damage at one time
echo whale
but fire at such speed
torn briar
its dead
echo whale
i have the problem with shield that it is unlimited. everything else has limit on how fast can it fire.
shield doesn't have this limit inherently.
echo whale
that is physical limit... not inherent one
every other gun has limit on how much damage it does
shield as long as it is powered can withstand anything
viscid jungle
If there is the possibility for difference between two builds, there will be a meta.
Did you know rock paper scissors has a metagame?
But I think shields are in a good spot currently. Disruptors drop them instantly and EMP missiles stun them.
echo whale
But I think shields are in a good spot currently. Disruptors drop them instantly...
checked in creative, it doesn't stun them, just drains them completely. they can be recharged at any moment and they start immediately
viscid jungle
You ever seen what a paired laser does to armor components btw?
There's a reason shields are strong.
They also won't be very far behind the edge of the shield. Knocking it down for a second or two gives you a gap to burn through the shield and any armor protecting it.
echo whale
You ever seen what a paired laser does to armor components btw?
pretty much deals the same damage as basic cannon.
viscid jungle
Also disruptor fires fast.
Uhm. Same damage per hit maybe... But hitting 10x per second.
echo whale
feels same to the shield tbh
viscid jungle
Two ion lasers through a prism?
Hahaha
Seriously though. Disruptors are fast firing and require a moderate amount of energy, and 100% hard counter shields.
Try it out.
echo whale
Two ion lasers through a prism?
ah my mistake... not heavy laser... dual ion
i understand that... the thing is it doesn't make sense for shields to be unbreakable as long as it is powered
viscid jungle
Armor is an effective counter to cannons, lasers and disruptors.
Shields are an effective counter to missiles, railguns (sometimes) and ion lasers.
Flak defends against a little bit of everything, but mainly missiles.
Use disruptors/EMP to bypass shields.
Use ion lasers/missiles to bypass armor.
echo whale
i honestly think shields should have upcharge and not go full power once powered
viscid jungle
At which point balance tips way toward armor - which has no downtime - and the meta shifts to just using armor and flak.
echo whale
you cannot repair armour in battle though
shield is regenerative. and if powered will block everything. i don't say that's generally possible but it isn't logical
hasty laurel
Once drained, a shield won’t turn back on until it has full power, creating a window to punish it.
Shields don’t have infinite health, but they do require enough damage to knock them down. If anything other than large shields are giving you trouble, my guess is you’re short on firepower. If the problem is diagonal large shields, aim for armor.
echo whale
Once drained, a shield won’t turn back on until it has full power, creating a wi...
though i have problem with that. what if it had infinite power supply. everything else then falls short to the power of shield. deck cannons? you can fire all you want but at the end of the day it cannot break the shield. same goes for EMP or disruptors, there is no downtime to the shield.
desert saffron
though i have problem with that. **what if** it had infinite power supply. every...
If it has Infinite Power Supply. That is Because you Installed a Mod to do so or because something is Horribly Bugged.
hasty laurel
though i have problem with that. **what if** it had infinite power supply. every...
There is no infinite power supply though nor will there be. A huge limiting factor to shields is the time it takes crew to respond to damage.
echo whale
i'm making it bigger deal than it has to be...
but those guns have the same problem. only just that they have limited firing speed
hasty laurel
A down shield will always require at least 2 crew completing a supply task to get it back online. A large takes at least 6. That’s a lot of downtime in this game. More than enough to wreck something.
Shields have awesome regenerative power over time, but they’ve always been vulnerable to burst damage