#Bulk and or Industrial Storage

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north basalt
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Basically a storage bay, but things stack to larger amounts, probably very expensive, likely needs dimonds to make, comes in two sizes.

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maybe volatile if shot too?

formal sapphire
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Your idea is good but would be better as a mod than a feature

agile cipher
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Why would it be better as a mod than feature?

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Your answers will be more helpful and informative if you explain the reasoning, otherwise you've told someone off without any evidence or point

formal sapphire
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It just doesn’t seem like something Walt would add. A name change like “Bulk Storage” or “Industrial Storage” fits more with the game. The idea is good, the name seems mod-like

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I think it's a very good idea

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a more effective but at the same time expensive storage bay

shy raven
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Feel like it might be too high sci-fi for what the game is, though a more expensive storage that can hold more would be nice

analog pulsar
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So, for example, a 2x3 or 3x3 storage space that can hold more materials on a singular tile than a regular one can?

shy raven
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Yea, would be nice so I don't have to have a multiple million credit cargo ship lol

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Also need to fix stations filling up easily

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Which this could be used to help early on

analog pulsar
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I like that idea then quite a bit.

scarlet wasp
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multilayer designations or just per tile

analog pulsar
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I'm assuming it can just hold more of that singular material on that lone tile.

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Than a regular storage one of similar size.

bleak gorge
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hmm
i want to be able to ftl resources to and from location from the ship

formal sapphire
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lol Resource Transporter

north basalt
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Bulk and or Industrial Storage

olive zodiac
north basalt
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Decided to title change since a lot of people seem to like the idea and not the name

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Also I must admit being able to teleport-pad items between ships would be very fun

scarlet wasp
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mmm nuke teleporter in mp sounds very fun

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have a ubnch of mini ships w/ nuke launchers and just surround enemy

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then teleport nukes everywhere

north basalt
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sounds like jojos in space

astral plank
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i like the idea, but what is its trade off? heavyness? is its hp the same as the standard?
right now my cargo ships are getting quite large, compressing them would be nice, also indeed selling off to a station that has every tile full/occupied is a bit of a hassel atm, though i think that could do with the station already having designated storage instead of allowing every bit to be covered by just ammo

scarlet wasp
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"expensive"

astral plank
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thing is, the current storage acts like a 4x4 or large tile of armour for corridors, making armoured storages would just do that but for armour peices so i could never figure suggesting that balanced

scarlet wasp
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might break mp though w/ ul stuff

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actually that might be fun

north basalt
mellow furnace
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Sprites

Each stack needs multiple sprites for different levels of being loaded. Perhaps that can be played around with/worked around in an interesting way

formal sapphire
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Maybe the gimmick with it (and an explanation on why it can hold more stacks) is that one or more sides can't have doors on them due to there being shelfs that can hold extra

serene linden
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i like this idea

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maybe it doubles the stack size

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but can only come in 2x2 and 2x3 sizes

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also using diamonds makes no sense, maybe tristeel

analog pulsar
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And more expensive.

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Maybe just some hyper coils?

mellow furnace
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Tri-steel and hypercoils are more expensive

scarlet wasp
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since this is latter game i think diamonds r good

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also will make it less accessible early game

shy raven
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If we are just going with more compact storage logically I agree, don't see why it would use diamonds instead of tri-steal

oak drum
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Not to undermine the point of the thread but a cool storage alternative could be a factory that shrinks or compresses items so you can store more of them in the existing storage. Could make selling huge amounts of items easier too. Would add a fun layer to the supply chain aspect of the game too… but my shrink-things idea for sure feels more like a mod thing

mellow furnace
# oak drum Not to undermine the point of the thread but a cool storage alternative could be...

I like it a lot! What if, instead of just replacing storages, more than a stack of items can be packaged into a container that takes up a whole storage slot with an image of what it contains. Then, the whole package can be moved as a single item by "Industrial manipulators" a la shuttles / space forklifts. The tradeoff they present is that they cannot be unloaded immediately, and have to be brought into a packaging station before being unloaded (And stacks of resource have to be loaded into it to package the items)

Said packaging station can take form of a room that has two stacks for input/output items and a single slot for a complete crate, or a small selection of them. Furthermore it can require metal for the containers when they are made, have a storage of crates ready to use and output metal when disassembling crates that overflow ready crate storage

oak drum
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Heck yeh, that would work well with someone who was talking about forklifts in another thread. Literally just put things in boxes and conquer space problems with organization. Could be interesting to add larger doors so forklifts could have full access to many storage bays all stuck together

mellow furnace
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Plus, containers can be colourful (Whether colour-coded or not) and contribute to that industrial feel of storage ships, that bulk transportation feel. Perhaps even selectable colour palettes for what you are packaging, so that you can match them to the paint (Although i don't think they are visible the way storages and view of ships' internals currently are)

oak drum
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Sounds like fun… maybe if building your own faction becomes a thing you could even have a tiny version of your symbol stamped on each box… I think that would be way down the line tho

olive zodiac
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Packaging sounds super fun

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I’d like to see something like 4x storage density on crates, but each crate uses like 4 steel plates

north basalt
serene linden
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i think hyperium would make more sense for that

shy raven
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Why Hyperium? FTL is just a warp drive, it doesn't take you to another dimension

mellow furnace
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Warp drive, warping space, seems related

analog pulsar
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Okay, to make it a tad bit… fairer and balanced. How about this.

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For example, 2x3 has 6 squares to put resources.

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Industrial or Bulk can have two options.

More squares but you can only hold half the amount of material or more.

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The 2x3 will instead have 4 squares that can hold, if one normal square is 20 steel plates, then the square can hold 40.

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That fits the Industrial or Bulk storage kinda thing.

north basalt
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that seems like it wouldn't have any advantage over a normal storage unit, that was exactly the point of trying to make it have a downside like being a lot more expensive

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if it overall holds the same amount of resources, why use it?

analog pulsar
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Well it wouldn’t I think. Eh, it doesn’t sound great but it was the best I could come up with that doesn’t involve Warping space.

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Seems a but more advanced than what Cosmoteer currently has.

north basalt
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the whole reason i changed the name was becasue people didn't like that idea

shy raven
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I don't see an issue with it being the same as normal storages just maybe costs tri-steel and has the same door rules as crew or some form of restrictions to doors

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It doesn't need overly complicated balancing

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It's just storage amd the game needs better/higher capacity storage

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Also need a better way to clear out stations after you fill them

analog pulsar
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Yep, that checks out.

neon sonnet
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what if it stores double because it just lets you store things on the roof /s

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this, but made of tristeel and diamonds

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analog pulsar
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No reason diamonds should be involved

serene linden
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alright

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i have worked out a ton of things

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and so

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what if the bulk storage was a single-item 3x3 storage

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but could hold up to 30 stacks of only one item

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and consumed hyperium as a form of fuel (1 hyperium every minute)

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in order to compress space around it

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to create the room for those 30 stacks

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otherwise, it would be disabled, and no items could be added

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but items can be removed

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costing (nearly) every resource

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so, tristeel, hyperium, diamonds, hyper coils, etc

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and goes boom like a medium reactor when destroyed

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seems like a decent tradeoff

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and it would add another thing in game that makes the hyperdrive not the only hyper-tech level thing

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so the hyperdrive isn't left alone as being this unnaturally technlologistically advanced thing

shy raven
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I mean, it's reversed alien technology....

serene linden
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yeah but like

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one thing?

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surely there's more applications for that kind of technology

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also you can build it yourself

brave current
shy raven
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TBH I just prefer the lore reason behind the more simple "Industrial storage"

olive zodiac
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Im all for the packaging idea, just stick stuff in crates

tribal tinsel
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Roof storage? 40% crew walking speed, 4x4, holds double the storage size per tile.

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costs double as well, or maybe 2.5x that of a 4x4

shy raven
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Why roof

tribal tinsel
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why not? 🤷🏻‍♂️

shy raven
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Why must we over complete things

tribal tinsel
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plus it’d make sense that double-stacked tiles would give double storage

serene linden
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Roof storage seems a little unnecessary.. but it was an interesting solution to a problem.

keen tangle
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Roof storages exist