we can work things out, but i agree that we will need things that bends
#Creatures and Stuff (Environmental)
mental snow
eyes would be fun. an eyeless creature can't perceive far, and it's an interesting cosmetic part too.
simple needle
I think that non-block creatures would be perfectly suited in the same way that Airships sprites their monsters. It's not like we have to build our crew members out of blocks, and they're just as organic as any other lifeform.
Further, buildable creatures would simply be about as fun and diverse as engaging any other spaceship. Little gameplay differences there. Custom sprited and animated creatures would be interesting by viture of being completely unique, and won't be subject to the physical and visual limitations of being constructed out of blocks.
block ship fighting a clearly not block flying sea turtle from the game I reference, Airships: Conquer The Skies.
Dev made meshes and fully animated creatures would work and work well in diversifying the gameplay loop if made right. Each creature is wholly unique because they aren't forced to make a selection out of the same pool of parts, which would detract from the alien vibe.
Custom damage models could also exist for these and in a much more interesting fashion than with standard blocks.
light knot
^^^ i fully agree
light knot
thread broke 1k messages btw
coarse pebble
@velvet remnant must be so proud !
velvet remnant
I honestly didn't expect this to get so much attention. :)
mental snow
it's a cool and interesting concept
halcyon cloud
near of the 200
!!!
unique reef
Yus
halcyon cloud
2 more
uneven linden
near of the 200<:Upvote:1017450429950459904> !!!
It’s reached 200
unique reef
yay
robust condor
Something like this as a barnacle stuck to old capacitors on a ship wreck. Just sends out barely homing emps to prevent you from salvaging. It could easily be made simply as a creative mode turret with no firing cost and some nice textures.
thin field
halcyon cloud
tyranids in warhammer 40k
if you want to go to the start of the post : #1026938875383398450 message
distant rampart
I came with this idea a long while ago
Im already crafting monster ships, as it is what im known for
@bitter hatch and i were brainstorming on this and funnily enough we see the same stuff here
halcyon cloud
really the best idea ever
summer sluice
Took you a long time of thinking to say that sentence
clever barn
Indeed
steady star
216 upvotes?! That's insanity.
clever barn
check again
summer sluice
Terran superiority
summer sluice
All the space creatures were hunted and killed before ever getting into the game
velvet remnant
lol
robust condor
Having some kind of threat within the ship graveyards or asteroid fields might work well to introduce new players to the boarding action mechanic.
Say a self replicating crystal that begins to spread through the ship.
simple needle
space barnacles
steady star
weary merlin
When we get moving parts for ships, we could probably make some more organic ships
whole compass
i really like this idea, having some animals would be cool
uneven linden
Necroposting the best suggestion to cosmoteer i see
steady star
i really like this idea, having some animals would be cool
Animals xd
barren bloom
with the current lore i wanna suggest perhaps something like a massive AI gone rogue type beast
basicaly a giant mass that lives in places like asteroid fields or amongst ship graveyards
ataching bits of ships to itself and throwing random things at you
stuff like chunks of metal or dead crew
and sometimes deck gun rounds or mines
having a supercomputer in its center that powers everything
also as you ripped it apart it would get faster and faster moving more erraticaly perhaps trying to grab up more scrap to attach to itself
even attempting to flee when its core gets exposed
you could also maybe try and fight it by grabbing it with a tractor beam and tearing it apart with mining beams and your crew
i think itd make a fun environmental challenge perhaps and would let the game show off its physics and all the new stuff walt has planned for crew
silent hollow
Here a Summary because this thread is now extremely long and tedious to read:
Design:
- Add space creatures which inhabit/roam around asteroids.
- Drop useful/valuable resources on death.
- Attack via ramming or acid.
- Visual indicators on the asteroids to see whether one is inhabited by alien life or not.
- Worm or Whale like. See Subnautica Reaper Leviathan for reference. (Also for behavior and form of attack)
- Not all are aggressive, some might flee and need Weapons like Harpoons or very fast ships to get caught.
- For the Edge of the Galaxy, some “Eldritch Outer God Horror Monstrosities”. See Subnautica Crater Edge for reference.
- Attack: Toxin cloud similar to mines but effect crew instead of ship, making the Crew work slower
- Have the creatures fight against each other/eating one another
- Eye color to determine if hostile or not
- Different textures on the body for different damage resistances or texturing through the existing decal/paint system
A Star creature living in the radiation Zone around the Sun of the local star system
Blind Tentacle Monster which lashes out when you disturb its surroundings too much
Creatures Migrate across the Solar System or Galaxy like Animals on earth roam the Planet
Need to target weak spots on the creature to harpoon, just like you target reactors on normal ships as weak points
a massive AI gone rogue type beast
Mission Ideas:
- Have Hunting missions where you have to hunt a legendary space alien.
- Maybe a System is overrun with these Aliens and you need to destroy a hive space station.
- Board an abandoned Space station next to a big asteroid and discover this station hasn’t been abandoned due to some fight or war, but because of carnivorous creatures your crew needs to kill them before the station can be operational again
- Take samples from different places around the solar system or Galaxy to analyze them/bring them to some researchers
Lore:
Monolith is trying to make money with the materials gained from Aliens
Imperium is weaponizing the Aliens
Name Ideas: (Votes)
- Scourge (9)
- Biomass (4)
Parts/Weapons:
Harpoons for hunting (Tractor beams do the same though?)
Long debate about this one:
- Simple: 2 Different parts to “construct” an alien: a Brain and a body. You need to destroy the brain for the Alien to die (this way they differ strongly from the normal ship building loop of Cosmoteer)
- Or Complex: have an entire Organ selection from brain to heart to digestive system to limbs, which would allow the player to build his own creature and see which creature is the best, just like ship building competitions (would make the Aliens very similar to normal Cosmoteer spaceships, basically only a reskin)
If you want crew, call the parasites or blood cells
Spike launchers for the Aliens to attack player vessels
Biological tracking device
Simple deterrents which just make Creatures leave your mining ship alone, like mosquito spray does with mosquitos
Flamethrower for fire breathing space dragons
Or have mechanical space creatures, aka a “bioship” faction, that fills the same role.
A Lost faction which is only rumored about.
It would obviously require specialized parts and weapons, as the current weapons don’t fit the mechanical space creature aesthetic.
Plants:
Types:
Solar Moss
Space trees/Asteroid forest
Meteoric Vines
“a self replicating crystal that begins to spread through the ship”
Design:
Maybe have some hostility - sticky seeds that cling to your ship
General Ideas:
Have it as a DLC as it “doesn’t really fit with the base game” being relatively “realistic”
“an option at game start to disable them could help please multiple crowds”
And here my own Ideas:
Many more different types of regions/points of interest/environmental hazards like:
- Planets with their own gravity, which works like weak tractor beams pulling you towards the planet
- Meteor showers which slowly damage the side of your ship which is exposed to them (if you have no shield)
Things to make the outside of the main solar system region interesting but dangerous (the things mentioned above also can apear here)
- Mine field which factions use to keep others from discovering their new powerful space ships (mines should be invisible to the radar and only be seen visibly)
- Wormholes which allow you to travel between non adjacent Solar systems (but don't tell you to where unless you traveled trough them)
- Pirates and other Lawless people in hiding (which can be stronger than the difficulty rating of the system)
lusty kiln
Oh gosh that's a nice concept
Can't believe I didn't see it earlier
Hmmm
Biological creatures that don't obey to the rules of cosmoteer
Maybe they are a third type of ship (asteroid, human, biological)
they use bloodstream to carry ressources around the ship (they have a blood current and a heart as a reactor)
also if ressources are present in a "storage" they can be diffused to a consumer next to it
or into the bloodstream if a consumer needs it further
they also passively regenerate using a pool of ressources they can produce slowly for free
They don't have penetration resistance exept for bones (armor)
they only take fire on the outside
they move using fins or cilia
they can regrow
dull peak
they use bloodstream to carry ressources around the ship (they have a blood curr...
I think we would need room shapes that aren't squares for that, unless we "pad" the areas around the round shapes (that's pretty much all organs) with "filler tissue" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connective_tissue) so that it fits with the grid construction system of the game.
Then if that is a thing, it would open the way to eventually building hybrid ships with bio and mech parts 🦿 ... sounds awesome but i think we're way out of scope on this one chief 😐
summer sluice
the 2x3 size lung , and it is just a png stock image of a lung fitted to the box
lusty kiln
Laser and explosive weaponery cauterises their wounds, that means they will regen slower but not bleed
summer sluice
Hunt big game with a railgun
next wharf
You should be able to capture them if you kill them without damaging an “egg” part that lets you grow them
summer sluice
You should be able to capture them if you kill them without damaging an “egg” pa...
This isn't poker mon
next wharf
This isn't poker mon
No it’s not, that’s why you have to kill them first
Also it would basically just give you a new ship
summer sluice
This isn't spore
next wharf
When did I say it was? It’s legit just a way to get a new unique type of ship, using a system that’s basically already in place (if it was added)
summer sluice
It took us 10 years to get this far with building using terran parts
wicked glen
Spacewhale eggs could be an interesting trade good
dull peak
Spacewhale eggs could be an interesting trade good
More likely to happen thatn growing them at any rate
summer sluice
Spacewhale eggs could be an interesting trade good
space egg fried rice
robust condor
More likely to happen thatn growing them at any rate
Don't diss the spaceship herdsmen :D
But if we're going the bioship route, it would be a good place to add new races. We could have fleshy ships, plant ships, crystalline ships, biomechanical ships and rogue AI ships, each having a slightly different way to defeat. (Which sounds a lot like a mod or dlc now, but once the transforming ships update hits we'll all be making monster ships anyway.)
summer sluice
But if we're going the bioship route, it would be a good place to add new races....
sounds like a very big amount of things to do
walt might even have to take out 2 years of not updating for it