#Tournament Chat
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but also then again i could also make a ship fast enough to ram with ocrails before the emps hit
then probably also fast enough to push so fast that the emps can't land
u sure?
cus I can do the same as you
you have 100mil to add mrts
i mean for the mirrors i'd have ocflak on autofire
90*
diagonal
that doesn't matter though the projectiles won't be able to go past the flak clouds
but my ship can
how then?
i don't see how speed matters when i'm putting flak on autofire every tile (via layering them with only 1 tile)
I can move thrue the cloud also not inf ammo on your ship
the clouds stick to your ship and i don't need to live forever you're on a timer with my ocrails
some how my ship png still is less than a 200 kb
man my ship is so big that when I was holding and moving to place radiators in a row they had a 5 time gap betwen them
27% done
I was fighting some bossfights and I realized that my ship is weak as hell
so gona remake it from ground up
ok so just so I understand this right, all control rooms touching = there needs to be a command blob somewhere on the ship with all the control rooms, those being adjacent, right?
It's hard for me to wrap my head around this, like, with such massive ships, a lot of weapons that are fine having a 600m range suddenly will have issues because huge ships permits ships that are 1000x1000
my game crashed
so if you sent two 1000x1000 boxes against each other, and let's say you used a missile launcher, this'd be the range on it (yellow)
huh quite small I would say
also first time seeing this thing
yeah it's so small that it feels kinda limiting, because there's not much aside from trl or railguns that could ever be viable
and dc spam
I mean I guess we'll just have to see what happens when Plaus tries to run the tournament lol
they have a range of 190, which is even worse
close deffense for ramers alike
also the fact all command rooms have to be in one spot means that penetration matters more than anything
I guess I'll just try making a prototype 100mil ship and see how wide it actually is
I just realized that so
gona a bit remodel the back
i made this to counter rails but i realized i have no idea what the weapons will be
I have never seen anything in Cosmoteer greater than 25mil, that's what terrifies me about this
295 by 408
ok yeah so two side by side are around 800 wide
(lenget and width)
I tried this and it survived only 2 hits at the same time so ye aint doing that again
also this is an old ship Im making a new one
with these sizes and costs it feels more like an effort to try and defend your only command center rather than trying to kill the opponent
but also just 600 range for all this is bananas
what weapons are practical at this scale besides rails
missiles??
maybe cg
yeah ouch, the range on those chainguns
it basicly just has an x of death at the front
xbox
I have an idea, I have things to do though so I'll build it later. it might be a counter to rails, we'll see
prisms?
the chainguns are also staggered in a way that they are always going
oh wait ions too
prisms are only 300 range
i mean counter rails
this picture tells me a very clear message but I won't spoil it
emp
imingen if someone makes an emp spam ship that literaly has thousands of them
emp is easily counered thow
actualy... i should do that
unless you got so many that they destroy the armor
thousand
40% done
i better see an avoider get played this game or else il be vewy sad
i will also do that
avoider?
gaming
Im a bit late but you know that ships will be played with the basic ai on plausis pc?
@young jacinth btw, I would recommend having asteroids completely off for this event
I dont think they where on in the first place
it wasn't specified in the tournament rules, so I wanted to bring it up
ah
Its an empty creative world
i mean a bunch of missiles could kill it easily though
yeah but something to consider is if you're willing to deal with fall off it's 300m off the edge of your ship
since each prism resets the range
@gray halo @tulip solar vs @bright anchor me
@tiny cradle @frigid hedge vs us
lost :(
@supple vapor @brisk briar vs @gray halo @tulip solar
got it
That boost thruster setup is the Casino thruster
I made that joke and it stuck
@frigid hedge @tiny cradle vs @gray halo @tulip solar
@supple vapor @brisk briar vs us
hell ye
@bright anchor lol
welp that was fun
you can always use multiple ships if its not explicitly disallowed
For current tourneys the 100mil one does dissallow it but you could use multiple on the 50k one
Oh ok. I was wondering.
@gray halo depends on the number of participants. Round robin would be bo3 and double elim is usually only bo3 in finals
ah
also 50k ships are way harder than I though
Yea I have not even tried yet
I have 1 weapong and I had to give up the reactor cus I was out of money
I was testing my ship and I realized that its very good but it dies to basic passive cooled dom waists
good thing that it won against pd waist that costs exacly 50 k with 4 wins 2 loses with ai and manual it never lost
ok made a new one that wins with every single one of my 50k ships I made (propobly)
and even won against some 100k (but not meta) ships
so ye 50k ship done unless bordom gets me and I would make another one
I made like 63% of the 100 mil ship and Im so out of ideas that I started to paint it
I would only paint a fucking 100 mil credit ship if I was paid by the hour to do it
aint got paint but got that hour
just use a paintcard a hundred times, no one will notice i promise
I just added some text and basic paint and 6 eyes thats it
had some empty space so made this in there (still got too much empty space thow)
i bet i can paint a 100mil ship in like 2-3 hours
ye painting isnt hard but doing a very detaled paint may take a bit longer depending on the detales
i was assuming most basic details but i think unless i'm doing asym i just need to lock in for a day or 2 for most details i can fit
ye IM a bit bored so maybe gona paint now (and maybe even add some other things
for reference left is my most basic and right is my most detailed
(the one on the right literally took like 12x the time that the one on the left took)
huh ye most of my ships are just poland flags but there are some better painted like thes onec
huh
the ship on the left was a speed run and took like 20mins to paint
also made this eye and the thing on the left to that big ship that we make\
ah
just made them glow too
the big problem that I just found is that if you have pipes connecting EVEYRTHING in the 100 mil scale it will LAG SO MUCH when your copy some to connect somwere else or just place smth over 1
separate the grids then
eye update
I almoust crashed my game by selecting all object in my 100 mil ship insted of copy pasting
man I start to like lights more and more
wait what happens if someone's ship just crashes the game immediately? are they disqualified?
would be funny
sometimes my game turn white and sais the crash thing but if you wait a bit it doesnt crash so
also I think im at 70% done
Yea if i cant get it to work
then its better for you to desable as much things as posible
the graphics dont really have an impact. I think its actually the physics system that struggles the most. Though I cant be certain of that
would actually be a good question for walt
well graphics will propobly also take a bit cus of the hole size of thows ships
Not really in my testing
well at least the particles will
should I still submit a maximally laggy ship tho
I have a question for the 100 mil tournament, What is stalling, I have some ideas on ship design but I don't want to do anything against the rules.
nevermind I just reread the rules and that is in the allowed section
Stalling means there is no progress in the fight for an extended period like both ships saying out of range of each other
oh thought you meant the 100mil specific part
I just realized that I think I made my ship a bit too fast
not sure there can be intended stalling in ai to ai besides both ships coming severely underarmed
my ship is a bit too armed that I cant put another thing to arm it
- make ship fast
- make ship run away
i guess if one makes it realllyy far away attack position....
almoust done
Will you explode explosive charges at the start of the fight?
If its requested. You cant make a splitter though
dang. I can just blow up a bridge, though
this sounds so bad outr of context
Brief scan of the document shows that I can make a splitter, it'll just have to be via sacrifice of a bridge between the two sections
huh
I think if it's disallowed it should be noted
Oh yea I guess you can do it
Can I provide instructions like "shoot this weapon at bridge and then structure" or does it need to be AI functional otherwise
Thinking about it again I think Im going to ban splitting outright sorry. Its not really intended.
I hope nobody tried to make a ship like that.
welp good thing I didnt cus I would have to remake my hole ship
Unfortunate, would have been funny to see a swarm of 50 2 mils fight a 100 mil
or closer to 30 due to the cost involved
ye but propobly not a good idea for plausis pc
what if by totally unforeseen design errors some trls happen to overheat and thus break the ship into multiple pieces
Then Ill judge if it was an intentional split
ah well
idk how about you but I aint puting my cockpits near any explosive exep a reactor but only the small one
and my game crashed and I lost all my progress on the ships paint :|
that's why we ctrl+s every couple seconds
... we don't talk of the consequences though
ok so I made 97% arredy and made this new eye thats will be use as a bigger decoration
rule was spellt incorrectly, therfor it does not apply
time to build 100mill in fanged fighter swarm
Damn guess Ill have to let you explode my pc
but it must be cannons
@young jacinth does splitter mean separating the crs?
Yea
only one command cluster, or can it split within reason (crescent wrath)?
wait so we can split as long as all crs stay on one of the ships?
me has idea
to be clear, if we design a split that causes part of the ship to be uncommanded but otherwise self-sustaining, taht's legal, yes?~
@young jacinth
Also, as this is going to be automatched, may we submit more than one ship? Assuming they are significantly different and probably limited to 2/hooman; limiting to 1 per is very understandable tho 😛
also, what range will we be starting at?~
Yes
Far apart
as long as all CRs are bridges (except remainder) and connected, all's good?~
ie we can have a line of crs yes?~
Yes
Can we give elaborate instructions?
Damn, I hope I don’t uncommandedly saw through the entire hull of my ship because I forgot to not target my own armor to aim my weapons ooooooooopsie :p
It depends. Id say in general for the setup yes but not once you are in engagement range
Okay, so I can do something really fantastic
I have an idea, but I do want to know how you'll handle weird situations like it
so if yal had to say how much of your ship is done (the 100 mil and excluding paint)
targetting isnt saved? angles are but ff is off
sidenote; finally, a tournament where MRTs will be prevalent!
didnt use any
#1425944876050288640 message
@young jacinth am not requesting the tournament be movedd, just stating that while i wish to join i might be unable to
my 100mil design is only at 10mil and it's already almost impossible to actually build my ship because of unimaginable lag
I'm on a laptop and my desktop is significantly more powerful but still this is freaking me out lol
simply selecting a crew room and dragging it into the area to build (not placing it) causes a 15 second freeze
I wish I was kidding
yeah same here
I've only started a lil bit on my 100mil and holy heck yea it's laggy
i even made a feedback about it https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1428834481015357552
ye I already build it and it lagged a lot
I recomand building in schematic mode with time paused and with avoiding placing oc parts (just oc them when your done) and that should help (if not then just build the ship in a fiew parts and when your done just copy one part to the other)
also 50k turnament today
@gray halo vs me
got it
Yea
so ye delayed as hell
@gray halo vs @exotic ginkgo
@tender root vs @bright anchor
@gray halo was hoping you were bringing something else lol
nah I got really only 2 ships and the sec one is too weak
stream is going close and close to beaning normal
they are still fighting?
idk why but every turnament there is at least 1 railgun kite
how
you know what? Im gona take some kfc cus this takes too long
lol
got it and its STILL GOING?
oh nvm
ye its ok now
the stream
no stream delay no more
wait Im fighting artem next game?
@exotic ginkgo @brisk briar
oh hell no gona try but why me
and I I lose and then win I will fight artem AGAIN and if he loses and then wind I will ALSO FIGHT AGAIN
man
thats a lose lose situation unless he loses 2 times
gona say thow that kfc taists quite good
plays vs max
hehe faster than you plaus
@brisk briar vs me
mega vs @bright anchor
@brisk briar @gray halo
@brisk briar vs @bright anchor
welp artem wins whats a suprize
congrats to Artem!
now paint it
How many fps when you’re building it
Not a lot, id have to check
Does the game's systems just hate thermals at scale? I'm trying to make my 100m with a big heat system but copy and pasting completely normal sized parts that are like 5x15 cause quite a lot of lag
if I copy a couple of them at once the fps drops to single digits
this feels really weird bc the heat system is crewless
if I copy the cube to the left it slows the game down to 10fps, if I copy the right cube it stays at 60 no problem
wtf is going on D:
heat is laggy because its hard to calculate all dat connections
other building games handle this fine though
like, Factorio for example won't care if you slam down a colossal pipe setup
neither will any other automation game
Due to how the game is set up, don't quote me but everything gets calculated on the same frame it's placed and causes a massive lag spike
It's the same reason massive ships struggle to load, because it has to place down every single part of the ship at once
What’s odd to me is that specifically heat systems cause this and only heat systems
Like, spamming crew quarters? Go ahead. Hallways? Sure. But a thermal system? Nuh-uh, 1 frame per 5 seconds
my guess is it's a new system that has yet to be optimised
have you heard of the field of knowledge called graph theory?
so: i think heat pipes are a pretyy big example of this
i think many of the possible optimizations just havent been applied yet
Off
I tested my 100mil ship in elimi like 2 days ago (or more) and my game crashed before more than half of my weapons even had a chance to shoot
sooo good luck plaus again
I fear that the tourney is gonna have 0 matches actually played out
ye thats a posibility
what happens in this case?
heat death of the plausis computer
We all cry because we spent hours building ships we cant even use
another soul claimed by entropy
"And Plaus wept, for there were no more tournaments to rig"
i dont if but only for the reason of its alredy built and made to work
@ebon coral no sorry, the rules disallow splitting your ship.
Will there be a grand prix this december? It's still ~2 months out from when it occurs, but I was curious
@ebon coral please ask questions here. You can see all important info in the announcement #tournament-announcements message
Let me leak some secret knowledge
Blaze plans to host another one
yippie!!
Thanks
That wont work its a masif fllete carier with the back half dedicated to hause al the ships so as good as your idear saunds it wont work for me
I thought we can't have intentional cp split, which is different to intentionally causing splitting off a section such that you get your cp section and a non cp section- plz clarify
you can intentional split off non controlled parts
@tender root #1423646379217256519 message yea if Ill be able to record it
Wait wait 100mil tourney? Sign me up! I'll shave 1 million off Chronos and it's crisp!
||I hope Fusion will be fine since basically 80% of the ship is his at this point||
I wondered if I should ping you since you and fusion made atlas for example
I used it to test the feasibility of this event. (the results were kinda inconclusive)
what is atlas and chronos?
very big ships
Guess I should finish my ships paint
Me and Fusion's (mostly his) colossi
I really, really wanted to make a 100M TRL tital especially because it's the perfect kind of weapon for such a massive hull
but unfortunately when heat systems get too big they lag the build editor so badly the game drops to under 1 fps >:(
where can i look?
has everyone submitted their ships? It shouldn't be an issue at all but I still don't wanna post them if they haven't
I'll just DM them to you ig
Since you've submitted your ship already
realiseing i forgot to post Ebon Hawk's file
sir this is a #1020489415476396043
I submitted the pitstop but made some changes post submission
the radiator shooting a jet forward really bothered me, and there were a bunch of internal things I messed up with that had to be fixed
wrong chat bud this is turnament chat
the design contest chat is here https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1059084974655033415
Y'all really does not like aesthetical ships in your sweaty pvp environment
nah this ship is just a storage ship and thows are not really usefull in pvp
I mean grant sent his design that’s why I sent mine
If I'd like to host a tournament/event what's the process to hosting one? Do I need to show someone the rules draft? Do I just ask politely?
i might try to host an elimination tournament after i finish exams
with a ban on alpha ships because they ruin it
Ask politely! Send a DM to a moderator, make them post your thing in #events or ask for the role to post in #tournament-announcements
Hell Blakebatponey got his past official host status by kindly asking Walt in ask-walt. We're chill
imagine if power storages started empty and processed resources were erased
@young jacinth
you need to post it in the zip format in plausis dms
also I think the time for it is over but i aint sure
o ye i wonder how the new oc rails are gonna crash work at this budget
yeah im doing a test right now and it froze the moment rails hit
it was really slow before but now its a frame every few minutes
yippee i can't load it in
oh my god
why no reactors at the front shields??
oh some reactors
u forgot to turn on the shields? @brisk briar
its alpha, so the shiekds are turned off until the fight starts
It was too big for dms
Also have ossues like that. I think cosmoteer has issues utilizing the full cpu
@quaint hound If you hurry up I guess. I plan to do a fight per day
Huh
honestly wasn't too bad to load in
it did like 50x time to autosave tho
@young jacinth this should work now
looking at this idk if I went too litle on the main weapon or too much
Idk, but I know I certainly spent too much on weapons
ye and your ship is a bit smaller than mine
Denser
and the railgun will probably work like a shotgun on yours cus of the block of cheese in front of it
@young jacinth can I update my ship?
cus the flak change broke it a bit
You cant switch your setup cause you saw fishes ship lol
oh got it
@snow seal Actually the very first match ended in a stalemate xD
Its due to missing supply lines though so in this case I just allowed the person in question to fix it
but I can only pray we dont get a real stalemate
But at least we now know that its actually possible to do these fights
It took 2 hours to record up to the point where ammo ran out
Oh welp that may be a problem
like what if 1 ship loses thrust but the other runs out of ammo
can we know how many are in the 100 mil tournament.
6 or 7 depending on if that one guy submits in time
Are you able to keep up with casting and entertainment during the match
Im not casting those 0.2 frame per second fights lol
Ill talk a bit about the fights after the fact
But the fights themselves Ill mostly record by leaving my pc on over night or if there is an opportunity during the day
How many fights have you done so far
voiceover?
None
Yes
@quaint hound you have 12 more hours to finish your ship
istance
d?
Huh I think I accidentally typed here isntead of the search bar
😰 did he submit?
No
@earnest cypress @brisk briar @snow seal @wild horizon @ebon coral I have finished the first fight, but it ended in a draw. I wanted to make announcement but wanted to upload a conclusive match before so I started the second fight and it also ended in a draw.
Both matches were also pretty scuffed in that I had to manually guide the ai multiple times so that the fight could continue. So yea this tournament is super scuffed and I apologize for that.
I have decided, that we will just hold a vote on who did more damage in case of a draw. Players are also allowed to fix flaws in ships between matches, as long as the adjustments are minor (crew roles, assignments, attack default,...)
So here are the first 2 ships from the fight from Lets_Fish vs Dragoncat, vote who should receive the victory.
Lets_Fish took some front damage and rails lost power, while Drogoncat lost the majority of his weapons and has some deep cuts in the armor:
Also here is the vote for the result of the second match where the ships barely even fought:
Chyve took some damage on the structure cage and kingnoah is unharmed expect for his 2 center railguns which overheated.
Oh and what I forgot to mention: The fights are taking really long to record and there are more participants than I expected (I basically have to let my pc run over night to record the fights)
For this reason I decided to do a single elimination bracket instead of the announced round robin. This is bound to cause some rough matchups where one ship hard counters the other, but I do not wanna keep recording those matches till next year lol, Im sorry
The bracket: https://challonge.com/wek8i23l
Whats the extent of minor adjustements? The rail losing power was because of two missing corridor tiles. I fixed it in the latest submission (alongside crew assignments), is that fine?
round robin would have 21 matches
then u can ignore draws with 0-0 score
ohwell..
also the railguns overheating should have been tested...
could u atleast do double elim?
whats the repair bill for noah vs me? i think just pick which is higher
Yes thats fine. Didnt adjust it for your first fight though
that would be 3x the matches
No, but if you really want you or someone else could do the losers bracket. It would have to be recorded of course.
If the others are okay with it we can also jsut do that
I think repair cost as a deciding factor oversimplifies the damage a little bit too much. For Example, there is a major difference between losing 10k worth of armour and a single prism redirecting the damage of 100s of Ion Beams (Biased bcs my armour is very expensive). If voting doesnt work well though I suppose it is a fine alternative.
welp my ship will be shown last unless your lucky and saw it before
then i should win against kingnoah bc structure is inconsequential compared to railguns
also looking at thows corpess I think I went too much close damage and too litle long rage damage but I may still be ok
thows corpess????
the left overs or watever you want to call them
the crew of thows had very packed crew and a lot of ammunition stored, and when all of em were forced out not by a simple hull breach, but the whole hull vanishing save a few steel bars of structure, one could only be brought to say "look at thows corpess", for it was not plural, but a big blob of corpses
i only noticed corpess after writing half of this
I honestly didn't expect tje railguns to be so wide.
It might be helpful to see the ships undamaged to better judge the damage
ye
also I think I went too litle on the deffense
this statement contradicts ur vote
It doesn't
I agree with chyve here
you say there is a difference between losing armor and the ability to use an ion core
in the "fight" between kingnoah and i, kingnoah had his rails burndown and i took damage to my structure cage
idk what the $ repair for each of us is but one is functional and the other is not
u didnt even deal damage tho, noah at least did somthing
yeah ik, i'm just saying that letsfish's statement is undermined by how they voted
i built my ship under the assumption that it was going to be round robin
Ah I see what you mean. The difference between losing armour and and a prism was just supposed to be an example for how repair cost can wrongly judge the outcome of a battle. In your fight, I voted for the ship with railguns, despite the higher repair cost. Even if it has a malfunction (that can probably be fixed easily), it was at least able to deal damage, which is why I estimated it to be more functional than your ship, which seemed to be unable to deal any damage in this matchup. It is a very difficult vote imo, but I can't vote for a draw because of the tournament style.
RR would probably have ended in 21 draws tbf
What would y'all think about a tournament where everyone has 10 minutes to build 100,000 credits worth of a ship, then that ship is passed to another person anonymously to build another 100,000 credits, repeat 4-5 times over an hour? Like Gartic Phone but for Cosmoteer basically, then the designs fight in the arena mode to see which wins. Would anyone be interested in participating in something like that?
that does sound like it could be fun
yeee
I was thinking of calling it "cosmic phone"
good idea
it's not entirely mine, it's an adaptation of this: https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1435480666639827055
hey look I'm famous
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Definitely very fun idea. Probably not a tournament though since its more of a casual format
well, I imagine the tournment part comes from making the designs fight in arena mode (on auto) for multiple rounds, and the "winner" is the 4 or 5 people who put a ship together lol
when fighting, each person should control each ship for 10 seconds and then switch
that would be evil
...but fun... right?
hm...
the thing is, I suspect people will already be quite burnt out after 5 rounds of rapid building
I don't wanna then ask them to pilot right away lol
instead make all of them pilot at once and control the parts via hotkeys obv
Ok i get to comtrol the w key, o key, j, m, 3, f8, and capslock
.......and i can't talk to my team
............
-# help
(x3)
"instructions unclear; added more"
before it was patched, yeah it was banned
oh shit i didnt realize that was from august 😭 😭 😭
when does voting end
my fault
Generally how available would y’all be for an event next Saturday (Nov 29)? Thinking of hosting the aforementioned event but ik it’s a busy time for anyone at university lol
Actually yk what let's make it a poll lol
React below with the time(s) you would be available for about 2hrs uninterrupted (if you are interested in "Cosmic Phone")
Time A: <t:1764417600:s>
Time B: <t:1764432000:s>
Time C: <t:1764446400:s>
Time D: <t:1765022400:s>
Time E: <t:1765036800:s>
Time F: <t:1765051200:s>
Time G: Some other time (feel free to suggest)
Alright, looks like it’ll be time B (sorry biggles and grant)
I’ll post the tournament & rules later today
(outlining this is taking longer than expected, will post the rules later sunday instead.)
aw..
sorry ;-;
Alright, Cosmic Phone tournament is announced! It took a lot more rules writing than I expected to hold it together but hopefully it'll play as intended lol. Lmk if you have any thoughts.
Okay google, set a reminder.
The graphics looks soooooo coooool
But it might just be me but I struggle greatly to understand what is going on in the GIF
There's author A B C D but sometimes more ships than players and I can see author E and F
The rules are well written also
Thanks! And I should've added but the gif also implies authors E and F who are out of frame
tbh I prolly should have added them, ig I just wanted to convey that there'll be four rounds and not "everyone edits the same ship at least once"
also good to know about the rules, bc there is so much to convey ;-;
What I need to know and I guess it's better to ask is do every player participate to each round? (on different ships)
yeah, every round you'll be building a ship
on round one you start the design, then rounds 2-4 you add to an existing design
I hope there will be a voicechat and I wonder how everyone is going to keep their anonymous
I never played a game of gartic phone
I'll be hosting, and others are welcome to come cast during the second phase (showcase and tournament). although tbh, I've never ran a tournament also casting other people in a Discord call and idk how it'd go especially since I am not gonna be casting on my main computer, instead a laptop, which is much slower
I guess the first phase could be "hosted" completely on discord, the second on youtube, but that won't really be feasible I don't think
I never did tournament casting 😅
When you say others are welcome to cast you mean participants or other tournament host?
Id love to join you
Sure thing :) I’ll be stress testing my laptop in prep for the event a couple days prior so I’ll let you know if I can have discord running in tandem
(My laptop isn’t too strong..)
a lot of people are signing up... it's going to be so stressful cycling the ships between people lol I'm so glad I made a spreadsheet for this
If you thought so many people wouldn't sign up for such a fun idea you'd be wrong 😄
I guess!
-# asume minimum is 10 most of the time
It just got better!
@cloud escarp What do you mean do not edit authors until round 4?
Idk a better way to put it, but you dont need to edit the authors either
I just didn’t want an already long piece of text to be even longer to specify no editing authors
Ah I thought you made a mistake adding that rule
And removing what was originally asking to add your (codename) author name
how long will the building part of cosmic phone be in total/ when is it expected to end?
Well, here’s the timeline from the rules doc, which will be pretty accurate
I don’t know how long it will actually take to rotate the ships between everyone, but I’m hoping that everyone can quickly send them to me so the process can happen in under 5m
yee oki thx
Cosmic phone tomorrow
ye
yee
yeee
so I won?
also no idea how the hell did the thrust burned but propobly forgot fire extinguishers
ok I though about it and looking at this it looks like my ship will in evennshaly cus the trl still have a trl boost (the 6 big reactor thing at the bottom on both sides) and it can still shoot and the fact that it cant move isnt a problem cus lets fishes ship is still moving and ramming my ship so the hole thing will fall unless the trl dont have enough range and if the missiles get in range it will still not be enough to stop my ship cus it will propobly hit the sides or the midle and maybe there own ship (and if somehow they get close enough to hit my cockpit I still have thows flaks but there is only on 1 side so it may hit but unless its many nukes it should be ok and my ship should survive it) and they are limited and also the cockpit count
no you gotta vote
were
on the announcemnt
a
just like last time
got it
wait didn't i send a ship
idk
Yea youre right. Im very sorry. I guess what I could do is reverse the latest fight and have you go up against mega
I feel I need a better signup list. The discord threads always get crowded with unrelated stuff
Blake is the only person with the ability to edit tournament threads messages
I believe if we had someone else with that power we would greatly benefit
Interesting, I thought only moderators could do that
That is why I always got people to move, it's a nightmare to deal with
I tried, but they keep doing it :(
You have it good, you can just delete those messages
If it's that terribly bad, you can ping a mod and ask for some help cleaning the thread
Ty but I dont wanna ping the mods for one or 2 messages
you can consider
-a thread dedicated to a particular tournament's chat (unlike the usual "use tournament chat" cause that feels weird)
-asking a mod to enable a very lorge slowmode on the signup thread (assuming that you can do that without affecting other threads - unsure about this)
-add specific penalties for using signup as discussion (idk what penalties, maybe "you lose ties" or "you won't be allowed to be in a skip-round position in the bracket"?~)
-specify exactly how ppl must sign up ("sign up by copy pasting this message: <>. If you need to leave the tournament, delete this msg" - then you search in:channel <> to see everyone who posted the msg and therefore is signed up with minimal extra hits)
-leak the bank info of people who are deemed "annoying", "infuriating", or "too not gay"
signup must include bank details; not following the rules has a 5% chance of releasing your bank details per infraction
welp I lost in the first round :|
sooo when will be the next one? (maybe not 100mil but like 25mil or smth)
Im not doing anything like that in the near future again lol
4 credit tourny
maybe smth like 15 by 15 turnament? (like unlimited money but limited space)
Sure I have not done that before
cosmoted was trying to do that (I think and 10 by 10) but it didnt start cus everyone forgot about it
😮💨still wish it were round robin..
are the ships gonna be posted?
did i really get seeded against the 1 ship that doesnt have thrusters??
Oh yea I could do that
Yea super sorry, seeding was random. My offer that you do the "rest" of the matches stll stands btw
You make me think about it, @young jacinth as the creator of any thread you can edit proprities and add a slow mode yourself
I think that doesnt work for forum posts though. And slowmode alone wont fix the issue
I would say verify it first because I learnt of this using forum posts threads indeed 
And slowmoding can be (1) a reminder at the bottom of the screen that this is signup and (2) make ppl effectively unable to have conversations with any ease
how am I supposed to get on my computer right next to midnight on a school night
that would ruin my sleep schedule and make it so I miss part of school
thank you for listening ❤️
Well nobody built new ones
I will make if I dont forget
ok gona say this making a ship made for just speed was a bit easy (it can turn quite well too)
@young jacinth out of curiosity, are tractor beams considered weapons for the purposes of the grand prix?
Are the tracks available somewhere?
No so I guess you can use them, but you cant focus on a player according to the rules
noted
i probably won't participate (it's at 5am), i just wanted to clarify if it was or not
Over at battleship brawlers but I can post it here too
ty
@young jacinth this is extremely unrelated to the tournament but how do you make viewers anonymous on a google doc
no idea. Google docs is black magic to me. I avoid it whenever possible
I made rules doc, not this one but my several design and paint contests
if you set share the document with anyone with the link, and make them reader, then they are automatically anonymous
Only the owner of the document (the one that has it stored on their drive) and all editors are shown and only when they are also viewing the document
ok nvm it aint working at all its too fast and rotatest too slow
for grand prix do we build only one ship or more than one
does the exclusion zone/selection area of the radiator count for the 20x20 size, or is it based on the rad's hitbox instead
This is a thruster arc, right?
thats the exlusion zone and isnt counted in the 20x20 area
this is the cone, which does have to fit
yee
can i add multiple layers of paint, so long as all layers are different shades of the same color?
idk, im not one of the hosts
what exactly does this mean?
is it specifically the creative option to self destruct any part?
are explosive charges allowed?
if a section of my ship were to overheat and explode due to a technical mishap and sever the ship in half is that allowed?
is it just "u cant split in any way by any means"?
explosive charges
and manually destroying parts to make yourself faster
if something explodes by accident, thats fine
you can't split your ship in two on purpose
@young jacinth wait, what time will the grand prix be at? I'm in a timezone adjacent to EST
I may build a new one idk
the time in the second picture auto corrects to ur timezone
yeah but the doc said 11th of january EST
and I live basically 1hr ahead of EST, but for me it says jan 10th
yeah..
I won't be able to participate if it's jan 11, which really sucks bc I love the grand prix lol
Oh yea sorry its on the 10th
I adjusted the doc, hope its right now
I just came up with something so devious but it might be able to do the Grand Prix
think of an overclocked ball of thrusters (it follows all rules)
ok looking at this maybe making a mrt cube with small thrust for rotation wasnt a good idea
lmao
ty
welp my ships turn too fast and Idk how to controll a ship in "point to mouse" so ye thats a problem
the humble sideways boost thruster:
I used 2 mrts and 2 boosts and 2 huge and all of them had the same problem
as the main thrust
and the only ship that didnt do that was a all not oc small thust ship with 2 normal thrust all powered by 1 reactor and 6 duds
ok I found the perfect thrust
yep its perfect (atleast for wsadqe only movement)
nice
Iirc so long as the primary color is one of the four available you should be fine
I believe one of my ships last year had grey/white accents
I may have a few if you want to check them out
Sure
do you want me to dm them to you or post them here
Whatever you like
@young jacinth radiator cones dont have hitboxes unlike thruster cones.. can they jut out?
also if theres no weapons should we have invulnerability on so radiators cant be used as weapons?
Chive, this
@tulip monolith
i'm asking that question
The exhaust? Yea of course
Oh yea I planed to mod the damage out. Thats probably the best solution?
Oh sorry I somehow missed those questions. Its the hitbox
yee oki
Neither is allowed. I guess I should adjust the rules, so that you just can not deal damage.
Your ship can overheat as long as its not intentional.
oh nvm that nullifies any consequence of overheating
yea should put that in the announcement
why not just make radiators not apply to enemy
Cause that would still require people to switch teams and there is no functional difference
there is a difference, people can oc thrust and burn out for extra speed intentionally
Wdym with burn out?
like oc boost that heats up
air means at the end of the race u can let the oc boost ramp up heat gen so much that u will die, but cross the finish line before that
That also has nothing to do with the damage behaviour of radiators?
yeah i think they were responding to the last part of this message
That doesnt make sense either, as its not related to raditor damage either
ohh, yeah thats the point
holy shit i got an mrt ship to be perfectly balanced
i thought you were removing heat damage
I am
Thats what Im asking you and why I wrote a dozen pointless messages trying to figure out how that would be different from removing damage to all ships
because i think intentionally melting yourself might lead to interesting tactics
There isnt a single use case I could think of
Detaching a pretasked crew barracks lol
You’d have to fire the oc boost thrusters at the right time but you could use them to generate a shit ton of heat allowing it to melt
Radiators dont produce heat and therefore cant seperate anything
melting yourself via overheating parts, not via radiator damage
Thats not a use case of radiator heat damage
heat damage != radiator damage
the whole misunderstanding is because we are asking to see if overheating is a viable strategy or not
we are trying to see if you can use heat management as a strategy; one that completely is unrelated to using radiators as the source of damage.
it's just that the solution to radiator damage might end up making it irrelevant to use heat management as a strategy
Ah I see now
This is the bracket, but I guess Ill probably need to change it since not everyone showed up yet...
do I have to use the same ship for all rounds?
no
but you can only use the unes you sent me
if it makes things easier, my display name is upside down (bys)
and you cant modify them in between rounds
So i send you all the ships I want to use
yea
ok
is it just 3 races?
no there will also be a losers bracket
well this is the new bracket
I assume only first place will move on and the rest will go to losers, or will it be the other way around?
Good luck to everyone
second place
second and first i think
go to winner
@young jacinth this isnt on workshop
you cant find it but the link works
hu
you can drag the link onto steam
the first ? is 2
gaming
its 2
so blue has 2 ppl and 1 moves on?
2 move on
then ? is 3? (2 from 4 above and 1 from blue?)
this is going to be chaotic
it was jsut 4 players race once right?
💔
where is the radiator mod link
so this?
both 3ppl matches have:
2 move to winner
1 moves to lower
then winner has:
2 move to final
2 move to loser
then loser has
2 move to final
2 elimed
and finals is final?
for some reason i cant get the mod off a browser link
need to access it on steam
sdguihgruhughufd8hgjdkhh
oki i got it
sooo can I still be in?
yea
@burnt dust @snow seal @serene latch
yea
:(
can i pls
oops
wrong message replied
i ment to reply to my message xd
wait i cant reply to my own messages on pc???
im just askign if i can make new ships while i wait
or nah
no sorry
@young jacinth out of careful consideration I have determined that I am completely cooked and will be forfeiting the tournament so my big back can eat
i tested my backup and realized I forgot to overclock most of it
what food
can I join insted of crow?
so what Im not in
ok youd join in the losers bracket
yay
this is the plot of cars 3
wowzerzs
I tested my backup and it only went 154m/s because I forgot to oc it
so I forfeit
cuz I’m automatically cooked
@snow seal @zenith current @serene latch @brisk briar
i, being in the losers bracket, am now legally allowed to play my idiot maching
that's actually-
-oh wait this is grand prix,
and I’m not allowed to edit
Wait
You said we could pick ships already made right??
Eh nvm I needa eat
honestly I’ll just wait for 2026 Grand Prix
I’ll be a better player by then xd
(Hopefully)
hmmmmmmm
im pretty sure ur late bub
this is the - wait yeah this is the 2025 one, forgor to read
this is the delayed 2025 grand prix in 2026
happy new year
I may have lagged out, I'll try rejoining
@zenith current how long does ur boost last?
no clue, didn't do formal testing on that, I kinda just eyeball it
???? there isnt even heat storage how do u eyeball
soul read
I only keep it up for a second or 2 at most
quality
@gray halo @zenith current @burnt dust @serene latch losers bracket amtch
what about me ?
I cant find the radiator mod
yeah I'm not in that one
drag link to steam page
got it
oops
restarting
I was too slow
but I didnt hit a wall a single time thow
probably, but it didnt matter so...
you did good!
it was an effective stratagy what are yall talking about
thx :) but I know now what to do next prix
400 laps
5 laps but every lap the map rotatets by 45
kinda mad, I could've recovered if I didn't forget to use my control groups but eh 3rd's still good
ye
ggs
gg
bye
ships i had built for grand prix:
gave qawa the HT
and besorah the 2mrt
thx, sorry for not formally asking perms
also my other ship was a collab with Sup3r, thx to him as well ❤️
nah it's fine
To finish my artistic masterpiece:
anyone wanna paint the red one?
but i wanna be the one to post in casualships-wordleior
👉👈
I'll give it a shot later
Congrats!
weve all been scammed
too lazy
literally unplayable
permission to potentially make a sotd post with the final product?
ye, tag me
oh lowkey would be sick to have it crossing finishline
and then u can include the 2mrt one also
im gonna try as well hold on
then also send to me and i'll put in #casualships in wordleior
i can try rn, do i just do any style?
anything u want :)
hmm maybe something nascar inspired
since i'm someone who doesn't watch and doesn't know much about nascar i have no clue what to go for would you happen to have reference images?
tried that but it isn't helping as from what i've seen unless i lock in on cars with mcdonald advertising, styles seem to be very varied
but hm i think i have an idea
Get like 10 of us to paint liveries and post a pic of all of them racing for sotd
nvm i didn't have an idea i just copied one of my other ships
not specific advertisements but just the idea of being plastered with them
hmm maybe swap black/white
here
oops outline
I could paint it when I get home in 7 ish jours
sphe co. stocks 📈
Real talk everyone paint this ship and I'll make an sotd post with all of the variants
Fact: Sphe co filed for bankruptcy years ago, after the Accipiter clan raided their coffers.
question about the unbalance mod: is the ht thrust+ramp completely random or chosen from a list of preset values?
got it, thx
man its hapining again a ship that I made to use the mods feacher is weaker than a ship I made for normal game
and also I somehow made a ramer into a kite again
man idk what Im doing man
is the unbalance mod really laggy for anyone else?
I'm in a mostly empty save running some tests and somehow when unpausing my fps goes down from 120 to 45
oh wait. it's because missiles don't fucking despawn
so as I fire them off they're just filling up in the void slowly choking the game
god dammit
good to know though lmao
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
8 min left
7 min left
4min left
plaus made a game now
and the turnament should have started 2 min ago but no one made a move yet exep ship art
ive never done an actual tournament before
ok plaus is live
@gray halo @burnt dust
got it
wowzar
good luck
@young jacinth can we do more than bo1? it seems very quick
we do have a losers bracket
ah
but we can do bo3 for all matches i guess?
I think that would be more fun ye
Hey sorry ;-; I overslept, can I still join???
@wild horizon @brisk briar
no sorry
fuck, I prepared a ship and everything 😭
I'll just watch the stream then, worst possible time to have an ear infection hampering my alarm lmao
nukebox is sign of healthy meta
*noob avoider
should be right now
got it
or next round ig
my huge shealds ship was made to survive it cus its large shealds
it explodes outsides the range of the ship
the bubble shields are great, they are kinda countered by missile spam though
this just in, miku miku beam counters minesweeper
ye and I though it would be the counter for missiles
at least it can stop a nuke
also after my loss I bouiled 3 diffrind ships to counter the trl ship
and I didnt have a chance to use ANY
@oak linden @brisk briar
we had a good run
ye
and large shealds did beat nukes just now
also Im hosting unbalanced if any one wants to train or do smth after they lost
ye no one is joining
canceled
too buisy targeting to look at the clouds smh
@burnt dust gg!
yeeeeee
I didn't get my losers bracket :(
ggs
could have memed harder
I never do those for the finalist. I forgot to remove that field from the bracket though, sorry about that
what would y'all think of a racing event that's more like a relay race, where you race around an area filled with obstacles and your goal is to cross a few gates?
I think I've played with the idea in my head and I'd like it
anything racing idea can be fun
Ill try to host the next one at a better time for you
3am is probably the latest i can go
i wish my brother wasnt attacking me the whole time
Plaus how could you do this
me humbly improving my painting in the background while also having to wait months for a new ship drive
Y’all reckon it’s too late to announce a tournament that would be on the 28th?
I had an idea but kind of forgot to turn it into a full event and now this particular weekend I had in mind may not be long for this world
Actually let’s just make it another poll.
This is a poll for an upcoming grand prix-like tournament with some twists (you would have to make a small, but specialized design). React below if you could participate in a ~2hr event uninterrupted on:
Time A: <t:1772280000:s>
Time B: <t:1772294400:s>
Time C: <t:1772308800:s>
Time D: <t:1772884800:s>
Time E: <t:1772899200:s>
Time F: <t:1772913600:s>
Time G: other (suggest)
Somehow can make it to all 6!!
sadly I can only B and E and MAYBE C and F if they last less than 1h and its not 100% that I will be able so ye
scheduling be hard :T
at least you're on E, which seems to be the most popular slot right now!
not february for me
also u share the build requirements? i might not have much time to build during the week before
I'm gonna draft up the event sometime this weekend
I've got other stuff going on rn so my time has been rather limited :T the week prior time time E will be way lighter but I'll do my best to get the event anno out before that
atleast a size?
25x25 maybe?
I want to use similar dimensions to the racing competition ships
the 2025 grand prix was 20x20
the year before was 25x25
2023 was 15x15
in 2019 there was one.. i cant find anything and idk what tracks were, but it was 12x12
sooo?
I'm very sorry but the announcement detailing the rules will be over the week