#Tournament Chat

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hard rover
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yeah but i can;t build a ship when i lag to 1fps with a 10mil one

gray halo
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I arredy made a 10mil ship

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and it aint got no thrust

hard rover
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but also then again i could also make a ship fast enough to ram with ocrails before the emps hit

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then probably also fast enough to push so fast that the emps can't land

gray halo
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cus I can do the same as you

hard rover
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you have 100mil to add mrts

hard rover
gray halo
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90*

hard rover
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that doesn't matter though the projectiles won't be able to go past the flak clouds

hard rover
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how then?

gray halo
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bro my ship looks a bit like lewiatan

hard rover
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i don't see how speed matters when i'm putting flak on autofire every tile (via layering them with only 1 tile)

gray halo
hard rover
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the clouds stick to your ship and i don't need to live forever you're on a timer with my ocrails

gray halo
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some how my ship png still is less than a 200 kb

gray halo
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man my ship is so big that when I was holding and moving to place radiators in a row they had a 5 time gap betwen them

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27% done

gray halo
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I was fighting some bossfights and I realized that my ship is weak as hell

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so gona remake it from ground up

cloud escarp
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ok so just so I understand this right, all control rooms touching = there needs to be a command blob somewhere on the ship with all the control rooms, those being adjacent, right?

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It's hard for me to wrap my head around this, like, with such massive ships, a lot of weapons that are fine having a 600m range suddenly will have issues because huge ships permits ships that are 1000x1000

gray halo
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my game crashed

cloud escarp
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so if you sent two 1000x1000 boxes against each other, and let's say you used a missile launcher, this'd be the range on it (yellow)

gray halo
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also first time seeing this thing

cloud escarp
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yeah it's so small that it feels kinda limiting, because there's not much aside from trl or railguns that could ever be viable

cloud escarp
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I mean I guess we'll just have to see what happens when Plaus tries to run the tournament lol

cloud escarp
gray halo
cloud escarp
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also the fact all command rooms have to be in one spot means that penetration matters more than anything

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I guess I'll just try making a prototype 100mil ship and see how wide it actually is

gray halo
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gona a bit remodel the back

cloud escarp
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how wide is this thing?

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actually, how tall as well?

gray halo
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wait can we just make a wall of cockpits too connect 2 bridges togeder?

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or we cant>

wild horizon
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i made this to counter rails but i realized i have no idea what the weapons will be

cloud escarp
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I have never seen anything in Cosmoteer greater than 25mil, that's what terrifies me about this

tulip monolith
cloud escarp
tulip monolith
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(lenget and width)

gray halo
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also this is an old ship Im making a new one

cloud escarp
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with these sizes and costs it feels more like an effort to try and defend your only command center rather than trying to kill the opponent

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but also just 600 range for all this is bananas

wild horizon
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what weapons are practical at this scale besides rails

cloud escarp
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missiles??

tulip monolith
gray halo
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maybe cg

cloud escarp
tulip monolith
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it basicly just has an x of death at the front

wild horizon
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xbox

cloud escarp
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I have an idea, I have things to do though so I'll build it later. it might be a counter to rails, we'll see

wild horizon
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prisms?

tulip monolith
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the chainguns are also staggered in a way that they are always going

gray halo
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oh wait ions too

cloud escarp
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prisms are only 300 range

wild horizon
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i mean counter rails

tulip monolith
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not updated for oc

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the guy that does it is working on a new one

cloud escarp
wild horizon
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emp

tulip monolith
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imingen if someone makes an emp spam ship that literaly has thousands of them

gray halo
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emp is easily counered thow

tulip monolith
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actualy... i should do that

gray halo
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unless you got so many that they destroy the armor

tulip monolith
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thousand

gray halo
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then go ached destroy plausis pc

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game crashed again

gray halo
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40% done

burnt dust
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i better see an avoider get played this game or else il be vewy sad

wild horizon
burnt dust
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gaming

gray halo
# burnt dust gaming

Im a bit late but you know that ships will be played with the basic ai on plausis pc?

burnt dust
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ye

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do avoider

gray halo
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my avoider will shoot you down using the void

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it is an "a voider" after all

cloud escarp
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@young jacinth btw, I would recommend having asteroids completely off for this event

gray halo
cloud escarp
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it wasn't specified in the tournament rules, so I wanted to bring it up

gray halo
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ah

young jacinth
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Its an empty creative world

hard rover
hard rover
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since each prism resets the range

young jacinth
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@gray halo @tulip solar vs @bright anchor me

young jacinth
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@tiny cradle @frigid hedge vs us

gray halo
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lost :(

young jacinth
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@supple vapor @brisk briar vs @gray halo @tulip solar

frigid hedge
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That boost thruster setup is the Casino thruster

frigid hedge
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I made that joke and it stuck

young jacinth
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@frigid hedge @tiny cradle vs @gray halo @tulip solar

young jacinth
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@supple vapor @brisk briar vs us

gray halo
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hell ye

young jacinth
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@bright anchor lol

gray halo
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welp that was fun

green shoal
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Stupid question

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Would tornoments allow multi fleets?

young jacinth
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For current tourneys the 100mil one does dissallow it but you could use multiple on the 50k one

green shoal
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Oh ok. I was wondering.

young jacinth
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@gray halo depends on the number of participants. Round robin would be bo3 and double elim is usually only bo3 in finals

gray halo
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also 50k ships are way harder than I though

young jacinth
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Yea I have not even tried yet

gray halo
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I have 1 weapong and I had to give up the reactor cus I was out of money

gray halo
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I was testing my ship and I realized that its very good but it dies to basic passive cooled dom waists

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good thing that it won against pd waist that costs exacly 50 k with 4 wins 2 loses with ai and manual it never lost

gray halo
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ok made a new one that wins with every single one of my 50k ships I made (propobly)

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and even won against some 100k (but not meta) ships

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so ye 50k ship done unless bordom gets me and I would make another one

gray halo
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I made like 63% of the 100 mil ship and Im so out of ideas that I started to paint it

cloud escarp
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I would only paint a fucking 100 mil credit ship if I was paid by the hour to do it

gray halo
burnt dust
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just use a paintcard a hundred times, no one will notice i promise

gray halo
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I just added some text and basic paint and 6 eyes thats it

gray halo
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had some empty space so made this in there (still got too much empty space thow)

hard rover
gray halo
hard rover
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i was assuming most basic details but i think unless i'm doing asym i just need to lock in for a day or 2 for most details i can fit

gray halo
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ye IM a bit bored so maybe gona paint now (and maybe even add some other things

hard rover
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(the one on the right literally took like 12x the time that the one on the left took)

gray halo
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huh ye most of my ships are just poland flags but there are some better painted like thes onec

hard rover
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the ship on the left was a speed run and took like 20mins to paint

gray halo
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also made this eye and the thing on the left to that big ship that we make\

gray halo
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just made them glow too

gray halo
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the big problem that I just found is that if you have pipes connecting EVEYRTHING in the 100 mil scale it will LAG SO MUCH when your copy some to connect somwere else or just place smth over 1

hard rover
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separate the grids then

gray halo
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paint is looking good

gray halo
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I almoust crashed my game by selecting all object in my 100 mil ship insted of copy pasting

gray halo
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man I start to like lights more and more

gray halo
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just tested my ship on itself and just gona say this

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good luck plaus

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and your pc

regal blaze
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wait what happens if someone's ship just crashes the game immediately? are they disqualified?

tulip monolith
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would be funny

gray halo
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sometimes my game turn white and sais the crash thing but if you wait a bit it doesnt crash so

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also I think im at 70% done

young jacinth
gray halo
young jacinth
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the graphics dont really have an impact. I think its actually the physics system that struggles the most. Though I cant be certain of that

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would actually be a good question for walt

gray halo
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well graphics will propobly also take a bit cus of the hole size of thows ships

young jacinth
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Not really in my testing

gray halo
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well at least the particles will

regal blaze
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should I still submit a maximally laggy ship tho

earnest cypress
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I have a question for the 100 mil tournament, What is stalling, I have some ideas on ship design but I don't want to do anything against the rules.

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nevermind I just reread the rules and that is in the allowed section

young jacinth
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Stalling means there is no progress in the fight for an extended period like both ships saying out of range of each other

young jacinth
gray halo
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I just realized that I think I made my ship a bit too fast

sonic flame
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not sure there can be intended stalling in ai to ai besides both ships coming severely underarmed

gray halo
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my ship is a bit too armed that I cant put another thing to arm it

young jacinth
sonic flame
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i guess if one makes it realllyy far away attack position....

gray halo
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almoust done

gilded spindle
young jacinth
gilded spindle
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dang. I can just blow up a bridge, though

gray halo
gilded spindle
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Brief scan of the document shows that I can make a splitter, it'll just have to be via sacrifice of a bridge between the two sections

gray halo
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huh

gilded spindle
young jacinth
gilded spindle
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Can I provide instructions like "shoot this weapon at bridge and then structure" or does it need to be AI functional otherwise

young jacinth
gray halo
gilded spindle
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or closer to 30 due to the cost involved

gray halo
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ye but propobly not a good idea for plausis pc

regal blaze
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what if by totally unforeseen design errors some trls happen to overheat and thus break the ship into multiple pieces

young jacinth
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Then Ill judge if it was an intentional split

regal blaze
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ah well

gray halo
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idk how about you but I aint puting my cockpits near any explosive exep a reactor but only the small one

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and my game crashed and I lost all my progress on the ships paint :|

hard rover
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that's why we ctrl+s every couple seconds

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... we don't talk of the consequences though

gray halo
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I was making a 64 by 64 art too

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oh well

gray halo
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ok so I made 97% arredy and made this new eye thats will be use as a bigger decoration

burnt dust
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rule was spellt incorrectly, therfor it does not apply
time to build 100mill in fanged fighter swarm

young jacinth
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Damn guess Ill have to let you explode my pc

snow seal
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@young jacinth does splitter mean separating the crs?

sonic flame
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only one command cluster, or can it split within reason (crescent wrath)?

regal blaze
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me has idea

exotic ginkgo
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to be clear, if we design a split that causes part of the ship to be uncommanded but otherwise self-sustaining, taht's legal, yes?~

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@young jacinth

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Also, as this is going to be automatched, may we submit more than one ship? Assuming they are significantly different and probably limited to 2/hooman; limiting to 1 per is very understandable tho 😛

exotic ginkgo
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also, what range will we be starting at?~

young jacinth
exotic ginkgo
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as long as all CRs are bridges (except remainder) and connected, all's good?~

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ie we can have a line of crs yes?~

young jacinth
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Yes

gilded spindle
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Can we give elaborate instructions?

granite river
# young jacinth Yes

Damn, I hope I don’t uncommandedly saw through the entire hull of my ship because I forgot to not target my own armor to aim my weapons ooooooooopsie :p

young jacinth
gilded spindle
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Okay, so I can do something really fantastic

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I have an idea, but I do want to know how you'll handle weird situations like it

gray halo
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so if yal had to say how much of your ship is done (the 100 mil and excluding paint)

snow seal
gray halo
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game crashed again

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cus of the "fill" option

gray halo
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its done

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maybe exept the paint but thats for a bit later

exotic ginkgo
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sidenote; finally, a tournament where MRTs will be prevalent!

exotic ginkgo
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#1425944876050288640 message
@young jacinth am not requesting the tournament be movedd, just stating that while i wish to join i might be unable to

cloud escarp
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my 100mil design is only at 10mil and it's already almost impossible to actually build my ship because of unimaginable lag

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I'm on a laptop and my desktop is significantly more powerful but still this is freaking me out lol

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simply selecting a crew room and dragging it into the area to build (not placing it) causes a 15 second freeze

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I wish I was kidding

snow seal
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yeah same here

exotic ginkgo
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I've only started a lil bit on my 100mil and holy heck yea it's laggy

gray halo
gray halo
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also 50k turnament today

young jacinth
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@gray halo vs me

gray halo
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got it

young jacinth
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@brisk briar vs @tender root

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@bright anchor

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@brisk briar vs @desert hornet

gray halo
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I left faster than you can kick me plaus

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also we are still in the artems mach

desert hornet
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Yea

gray halo
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so ye delayed as hell

young jacinth
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@gray halo vs @exotic ginkgo

gray halo
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idk what artem was cooking but it looks weard

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got it

young jacinth
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@tender root vs @bright anchor

exotic ginkgo
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@gray halo was hoping you were bringing something else lol

gray halo
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stream is going close and close to beaning normal

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they are still fighting?

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idk why but every turnament there is at least 1 railgun kite

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how

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you know what? Im gona take some kfc cus this takes too long

exotic ginkgo
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lol

gray halo
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got it and its STILL GOING?

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oh nvm

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ye its ok now

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the stream

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no stream delay no more

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wait Im fighting artem next game?

young jacinth
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@exotic ginkgo @brisk briar

gray halo
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oh hell no gona try but why me

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and I I lose and then win I will fight artem AGAIN and if he loses and then wind I will ALSO FIGHT AGAIN

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man

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thats a lose lose situation unless he loses 2 times

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gona say thow that kfc taists quite good

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plays vs max

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hehe faster than you plaus

young jacinth
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@brisk briar vs me

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mega vs @bright anchor

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@brisk briar @gray halo

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@brisk briar vs @bright anchor

gray halo
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welp artem wins whats a suprize

desert hornet
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congrats to Artem!

young jacinth
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I just made my 100mil ship in under 3 hours

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speedrun world record

gray halo
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now paint it

young jacinth
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already is

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all black

gray halo
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add some pixelart too it

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so it at least looks a bit better

wild horizon
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I thought the tournament started 3 hours later

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probably should have checked

cloud escarp
young jacinth
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Not a lot, id have to check

cloud escarp
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Does the game's systems just hate thermals at scale? I'm trying to make my 100m with a big heat system but copy and pasting completely normal sized parts that are like 5x15 cause quite a lot of lag

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if I copy a couple of them at once the fps drops to single digits

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this feels really weird bc the heat system is crewless

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if I copy the cube to the left it slows the game down to 10fps, if I copy the right cube it stays at 60 no problem

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wtf is going on D:

upbeat ridge
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heat is laggy because its hard to calculate all dat connections

cloud escarp
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like, Factorio for example won't care if you slam down a colossal pipe setup

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neither will any other automation game

gilded spindle
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Due to how the game is set up, don't quote me but everything gets calculated on the same frame it's placed and causes a massive lag spike

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It's the same reason massive ships struggle to load, because it has to place down every single part of the ship at once

cloud escarp
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Like, spamming crew quarters? Go ahead. Hallways? Sure. But a thermal system? Nuh-uh, 1 frame per 5 seconds

hard rover
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my guess is it's a new system that has yet to be optimised

desert sky
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Heat is just poorly optimized performance wise

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You can see that in the patchnotes

upbeat ridge
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so: i think heat pipes are a pretyy big example of this

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i think many of the possible optimizations just havent been applied yet

snow seal
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@young jacinth will collision avoidance be on or off?

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for 100mil

young jacinth
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Off

gray halo
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I tested my 100mil ship in elimi like 2 days ago (or more) and my game crashed before more than half of my weapons even had a chance to shoot

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sooo good luck plaus again

young jacinth
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I fear that the tourney is gonna have 0 matches actually played out

gray halo
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ye thats a posibility

snow seal
gray halo
young jacinth
hard rover
hard rover
tulip monolith
young jacinth
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@ebon coral no sorry, the rules disallow splitting your ship.

cloud escarp
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Will there be a grand prix this december? It's still ~2 months out from when it occurs, but I was curious

young jacinth
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@ebon coral please ask questions here. You can see all important info in the announcement #tournament-announcements message

young jacinth
ebon coral
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That wont work its a masif fllete carier with the back half dedicated to hause al the ships so as good as your idear saunds it wont work for me

exotic ginkgo
young jacinth
young jacinth
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@tender root #1423646379217256519 message yea if Ill be able to record it

tender root
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Cool

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You could time-lapse it if it's too laggy ig

surreal pecan
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Wait wait 100mil tourney? Sign me up! I'll shave 1 million off Chronos and it's crisp!

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||I hope Fusion will be fine since basically 80% of the ship is his at this point||

young jacinth
surreal pecan
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Yee true

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Oh Atlas is a good idea!

young jacinth
snow seal
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what is atlas and chronos?

tender root
tulip monolith
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Guess I should finish my ships paint

surreal pecan
cloud escarp
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I really, really wanted to make a 100M TRL tital especially because it's the perfect kind of weapon for such a massive hull

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but unfortunately when heat systems get too big they lag the build editor so badly the game drops to under 1 fps >:(

snow seal
tender root
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I'll just DM them to you ig

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Since you've submitted your ship already

tulip monolith
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realiseing i forgot to post Ebon Hawk's file

tender root
cloud escarp
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I submitted the pitstop but made some changes post submission

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the radiator shooting a jet forward really bothered me, and there were a bunch of internal things I messed up with that had to be fixed

gray halo
desert sky
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Y'all really does not like aesthetical ships in your sweaty pvp environment

gray halo
cloud escarp
cloud escarp
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If I'd like to host a tournament/event what's the process to hosting one? Do I need to show someone the rules draft? Do I just ask politely?

tender root
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i might try to host an elimination tournament after i finish exams

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with a ban on alpha ships because they ruin it

desert sky
sonic flame
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imagine if power storages started empty and processed resources were erased

brisk briar
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@young jacinth

gray halo
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also I think the time for it is over but i aint sure

wild horizon
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i gave plaus mine right now

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probably cant wait much longer though

burnt dust
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o ye i wonder how the new oc rails are gonna crash work at this budget

wild horizon
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yeah im doing a test right now and it froze the moment rails hit

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it was really slow before but now its a frame every few minutes

snow seal
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oh my god

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why no reactors at the front shields??

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oh some reactors

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u forgot to turn on the shields? @brisk briar

snow seal
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hmmm...

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-# does anyone know why not all cores are running?

brisk briar
brisk briar
young jacinth
# snow seal hmmm...

Also have ossues like that. I think cosmoteer has issues utilizing the full cpu

young jacinth
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@quaint hound If you hurry up I guess. I plan to do a fight per day

gray halo
hard rover
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it did like 50x time to autosave tho

brisk briar
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@young jacinth this should work now

gray halo
brisk briar
gray halo
brisk briar
gray halo
# brisk briar Denser

and the railgun will probably work like a shotgun on yours cus of the block of cheese in front of it

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@young jacinth can I update my ship?

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cus the flak change broke it a bit

young jacinth
young jacinth
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@snow seal Actually the very first match ended in a stalemate xD

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Its due to missing supply lines though so in this case I just allowed the person in question to fix it

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but I can only pray we dont get a real stalemate

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But at least we now know that its actually possible to do these fights

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It took 2 hours to record up to the point where ammo ran out

gray halo
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Oh welp that may be a problem

snow seal
young jacinth
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That just wont happen

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Trust

earnest cypress
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can we know how many are in the 100 mil tournament.

young jacinth
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6 or 7 depending on if that one guy submits in time

desert sky
young jacinth
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Ill talk a bit about the fights after the fact

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But the fights themselves Ill mostly record by leaving my pc on over night or if there is an opportunity during the day

wild horizon
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How many fights have you done so far

snow seal
young jacinth
young jacinth
young jacinth
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@quaint hound you have 12 more hours to finish your ship

young jacinth
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istance

snow seal
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d?

young jacinth
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Huh I think I accidentally typed here isntead of the search bar

young jacinth
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No

young jacinth
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@earnest cypress @brisk briar @snow seal @wild horizon @ebon coral I have finished the first fight, but it ended in a draw. I wanted to make announcement but wanted to upload a conclusive match before so I started the second fight and it also ended in a draw.
Both matches were also pretty scuffed in that I had to manually guide the ai multiple times so that the fight could continue. So yea this tournament is super scuffed and I apologize for that.
I have decided, that we will just hold a vote on who did more damage in case of a draw. Players are also allowed to fix flaws in ships between matches, as long as the adjustments are minor (crew roles, assignments, attack default,...)
So here are the first 2 ships from the fight from Lets_Fish vs Dragoncat, vote who should receive the victory.
Lets_Fish took some front damage and rails lost power, while Drogoncat lost the majority of his weapons and has some deep cuts in the armor:

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Also here is the vote for the result of the second match where the ships barely even fought:
Chyve took some damage on the structure cage and kingnoah is unharmed expect for his 2 center railguns which overheated.

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Oh and what I forgot to mention: The fights are taking really long to record and there are more participants than I expected (I basically have to let my pc run over night to record the fights)
For this reason I decided to do a single elimination bracket instead of the announced round robin. This is bound to cause some rough matchups where one ship hard counters the other, but I do not wanna keep recording those matches till next year lol, Im sorry

brisk briar
snow seal
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round robin would have 21 matches
then u can ignore draws with 0-0 score

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ohwell..

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also the railguns overheating should have been tested...

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could u atleast do double elim?

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whats the repair bill for noah vs me? i think just pick which is higher

young jacinth
young jacinth
young jacinth
young jacinth
brisk briar
# young jacinth If the others are okay with it we can also jsut do that

I think repair cost as a deciding factor oversimplifies the damage a little bit too much. For Example, there is a major difference between losing 10k worth of armour and a single prism redirecting the damage of 100s of Ion Beams (Biased bcs my armour is very expensive). If voting doesnt work well though I suppose it is a fine alternative.

gray halo
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welp my ship will be shown last unless your lucky and saw it before

snow seal
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then i should win against kingnoah bc structure is inconsequential compared to railguns

gray halo
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also looking at thows corpess I think I went too much close damage and too litle long rage damage but I may still be ok

snow seal
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thows corpess????

gray halo
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the left overs or watever you want to call them

sonic flame
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the crew of thows had very packed crew and a lot of ammunition stored, and when all of em were forced out not by a simple hull breach, but the whole hull vanishing save a few steel bars of structure, one could only be brought to say "look at thows corpess", for it was not plural, but a big blob of corpses
i only noticed corpess after writing half of this

earnest cypress
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I honestly didn't expect tje railguns to be so wide.

brisk briar
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It might be helpful to see the ships undamaged to better judge the damage

gray halo
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also I think I went too litle on the deffense

snow seal
brisk briar
wild horizon
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I agree with chyve here

snow seal
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idk what the $ repair for each of us is but one is functional and the other is not

burnt dust
snow seal
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yeah ik, i'm just saying that letsfish's statement is undermined by how they voted

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i built my ship under the assumption that it was going to be round robin

brisk briar
# snow seal you say there is a difference between losing armor and the ability to use an ion...

Ah I see what you mean. The difference between losing armour and and a prism was just supposed to be an example for how repair cost can wrongly judge the outcome of a battle. In your fight, I voted for the ship with railguns, despite the higher repair cost. Even if it has a malfunction (that can probably be fixed easily), it was at least able to deal damage, which is why I estimated it to be more functional than your ship, which seemed to be unable to deal any damage in this matchup. It is a very difficult vote imo, but I can't vote for a draw because of the tournament style.

brisk briar
cloud escarp
#

What would y'all think about a tournament where everyone has 10 minutes to build 100,000 credits worth of a ship, then that ship is passed to another person anonymously to build another 100,000 credits, repeat 4-5 times over an hour? Like Gartic Phone but for Cosmoteer basically, then the designs fight in the arena mode to see which wins. Would anyone be interested in participating in something like that?

tulip monolith
#

that does sound like it could be fun

burnt dust
#

yeee

cloud escarp
#

I was thinking of calling it "cosmic phone"

cloud escarp
burnt dust
#

hey look I'm famous

young jacinth
cloud escarp
regal blaze
regal blaze
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...but fun... right?

cloud escarp
#

hm...

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the thing is, I suspect people will already be quite burnt out after 5 rounds of rapid building

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I don't wanna then ask them to pilot right away lol

regal blaze
#

yeah

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that's fair

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idk

burnt dust
#

instead make all of them pilot at once and control the parts via hotkeys obv

exotic ginkgo
exotic ginkgo
trim anchor
#

before it was patched, yeah it was banned

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oh shit i didnt realize that was from august 😭 😭 😭

trim anchor
#

my fault

cloud escarp
#

Generally how available would y’all be for an event next Saturday (Nov 29)? Thinking of hosting the aforementioned event but ik it’s a busy time for anyone at university lol

cloud escarp
#

Actually yk what let's make it a poll lol

React below with the time(s) you would be available for about 2hrs uninterrupted (if you are interested in "Cosmic Phone")
Time A: <t:1764417600:s>
Time B: <t:1764432000:s>
Time C: <t:1764446400:s>
Time D: <t:1765022400:s>
Time E: <t:1765036800:s>
Time F: <t:1765051200:s>
Time G: Some other time (feel free to suggest)

cloud escarp
#

Alright, looks like it’ll be time B (sorry biggles and grant)

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I’ll post the tournament & rules later today
(outlining this is taking longer than expected, will post the rules later sunday instead.)

snow seal
#

aw..

cloud escarp
#

sorry ;-;

cloud escarp
#

Alright, Cosmic Phone tournament is announced! It took a lot more rules writing than I expected to hold it together but hopefully it'll play as intended lol. Lmk if you have any thoughts.

desert sky
#

Okay google, set a reminder.

desert sky
#

But it might just be me but I struggle greatly to understand what is going on in the GIF

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There's author A B C D but sometimes more ships than players and I can see author E and F

The rules are well written also

cloud escarp
#

tbh I prolly should have added them, ig I just wanted to convey that there'll be four rounds and not "everyone edits the same ship at least once"

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also good to know about the rules, bc there is so much to convey ;-;

desert sky
cloud escarp
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on round one you start the design, then rounds 2-4 you add to an existing design

desert sky
#

I hope there will be a voicechat and I wonder how everyone is going to keep their anonymous

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I never played a game of gartic phone

cloud escarp
#

I guess the first phase could be "hosted" completely on discord, the second on youtube, but that won't really be feasible I don't think

desert sky
#

When you say others are welcome to cast you mean participants or other tournament host?

cloud escarp
# young jacinth Id love to join you

Sure thing :) I’ll be stress testing my laptop in prep for the event a couple days prior so I’ll let you know if I can have discord running in tandem

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(My laptop isn’t too strong..)

cloud escarp
#

a lot of people are signing up... it's going to be so stressful cycling the ships between people lol I'm so glad I made a spreadsheet for this

desert sky
#

If you thought so many people wouldn't sign up for such a fun idea you'd be wrong 😄

cloud escarp
#

I guess!

tulip monolith
#

-# asume minimum is 10 most of the time

desert sky
#

It just got better!

#

@cloud escarp What do you mean do not edit authors until round 4?

cloud escarp
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I just didn’t want an already long piece of text to be even longer to specify no editing authors

desert sky
#

Ah I thought you made a mistake adding that rule

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And removing what was originally asking to add your (codename) author name

burnt dust
#

how long will the building part of cosmic phone be in total/ when is it expected to end?

cloud escarp
#

I don’t know how long it will actually take to rotate the ships between everyone, but I’m hoping that everyone can quickly send them to me so the process can happen in under 5m

burnt dust
#

yee oki thx

cloud escarp
#

Cosmic phone tomorrow

gray halo
burnt dust
#

yee

regal blaze
#

yeee

gray halo
#

so I won?

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also no idea how the hell did the thrust burned but propobly forgot fire extinguishers

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ok I though about it and looking at this it looks like my ship will in evennshaly cus the trl still have a trl boost (the 6 big reactor thing at the bottom on both sides) and it can still shoot and the fact that it cant move isnt a problem cus lets fishes ship is still moving and ramming my ship so the hole thing will fall unless the trl dont have enough range and if the missiles get in range it will still not be enough to stop my ship cus it will propobly hit the sides or the midle and maybe there own ship (and if somehow they get close enough to hit my cockpit I still have thows flaks but there is only on 1 side so it may hit but unless its many nukes it should be ok and my ship should survive it) and they are limited and also the cockpit count

young jacinth
gray halo
young jacinth
gray halo
#

a

young jacinth
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just like last time

gray halo
#

got it

burnt dust
#

wait didn't i send a ship

gray halo
young jacinth
#

I feel I need a better signup list. The discord threads always get crowded with unrelated stuff

desert sky
#

Blake is the only person with the ability to edit tournament threads messages

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I believe if we had someone else with that power we would greatly benefit

young jacinth
#

Interesting, I thought only moderators could do that

gilded spindle
young jacinth
gilded spindle
young jacinth
#

Ty but I dont wanna ping the mods for one or 2 messages

exotic ginkgo
#

you can consider
-a thread dedicated to a particular tournament's chat (unlike the usual "use tournament chat" cause that feels weird)
-asking a mod to enable a very lorge slowmode on the signup thread (assuming that you can do that without affecting other threads - unsure about this)
-add specific penalties for using signup as discussion (idk what penalties, maybe "you lose ties" or "you won't be allowed to be in a skip-round position in the bracket"?~)
-specify exactly how ppl must sign up ("sign up by copy pasting this message: <>. If you need to leave the tournament, delete this msg" - then you search in:channel <> to see everyone who posted the msg and therefore is signed up with minimal extra hits)

burnt dust
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-leak the bank info of people who are deemed "annoying", "infuriating", or "too not gay"

exotic ginkgo
gray halo
#

welp I lost in the first round :|

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sooo when will be the next one? (maybe not 100mil but like 25mil or smth)

young jacinth
#

Im not doing anything like that in the near future again lol

burnt dust
#

4 credit tourny

gray halo
#

maybe smth like 15 by 15 turnament? (like unlimited money but limited space)

burnt dust
#

oo ye

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1mill by 1mill

young jacinth
#

Sure I have not done that before

gray halo
#

cosmoted was trying to do that (I think and 10 by 10) but it didnt start cus everyone forgot about it

snow seal
#

😮‍💨still wish it were round robin..

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are the ships gonna be posted?

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did i really get seeded against the 1 ship that doesnt have thrusters??

young jacinth
young jacinth
desert sky
young jacinth
desert sky
#

I would say verify it first because I learnt of this using forum posts threads indeed LUL

exotic ginkgo
#

And slowmoding can be (1) a reminder at the bottom of the screen that this is signup and (2) make ppl effectively unable to have conversations with any ease

open crest
#

how am I supposed to get on my computer right next to midnight on a school night

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that would ruin my sleep schedule and make it so I miss part of school

open crest
#

thank you for listening ❤️

desert sky
#

We will race through the same circuits once again? 😞

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That will be without me

young jacinth
gray halo
#

ok gona say this making a ship made for just speed was a bit easy (it can turn quite well too)

quick kelp
#

@young jacinth out of curiosity, are tractor beams considered weapons for the purposes of the grand prix?

brisk briar
young jacinth
quick kelp
#

noted

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i probably won't participate (it's at 5am), i just wanted to clarify if it was or not

young jacinth
brisk briar
#

ty

regal blaze
#

@young jacinth this is extremely unrelated to the tournament but how do you make viewers anonymous on a google doc

young jacinth
regal blaze
#

huh

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who made the rules doc then

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that's why i asked

desert sky
#

I made rules doc, not this one but my several design and paint contests

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if you set share the document with anyone with the link, and make them reader, then they are automatically anonymous

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Only the owner of the document (the one that has it stored on their drive) and all editors are shown and only when they are also viewing the document

gray halo
open crest
#

for grand prix do we build only one ship or more than one

burnt dust
#

does the exclusion zone/selection area of the radiator count for the 20x20 size, or is it based on the rad's hitbox instead

flint pebble
#

This is a thruster arc, right?

burnt dust
flint pebble
#

oohhhhhh

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thx

burnt dust
#

yee

flint pebble
# burnt dust yee

can i add multiple layers of paint, so long as all layers are different shades of the same color?

burnt dust
#

idk, im not one of the hosts

flint pebble
#

k

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like this

burnt dust
#

what exactly does this mean?

is it specifically the creative option to self destruct any part?

are explosive charges allowed?

if a section of my ship were to overheat and explode due to a technical mishap and sever the ship in half is that allowed?

is it just "u cant split in any way by any means"?

flint pebble
#

and manually destroying parts to make yourself faster

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if something explodes by accident, thats fine

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you can't split your ship in two on purpose

cloud escarp
#

@young jacinth wait, what time will the grand prix be at? I'm in a timezone adjacent to EST

short tartan
burnt dust
cloud escarp
#

and I live basically 1hr ahead of EST, but for me it says jan 10th

burnt dust
#

o

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idk

cloud escarp
#

yeah..

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I won't be able to participate if it's jan 11, which really sucks bc I love the grand prix lol

young jacinth
#

I adjusted the doc, hope its right now

open crest
#

I just came up with something so devious but it might be able to do the Grand Prix

#

think of an overclocked ball of thrusters (it follows all rules)

tender root
#

car

#

once again, fuck my stupid australian time zone

gray halo
#

ok looking at this maybe making a mrt cube with small thrust for rotation wasnt a good idea

tender root
#

lmao

short tartan
#

sotd worthy

tender root
#

ty

gray halo
#

welp my ships turn too fast and Idk how to controll a ship in "point to mouse" so ye thats a problem

hard rover
#

the humble sideways boost thruster:

gray halo
#

I used 2 mrts and 2 boosts and 2 huge and all of them had the same problem

#

as the main thrust

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and the only ship that didnt do that was a all not oc small thust ship with 2 normal thrust all powered by 1 reactor and 6 duds

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ok I found the perfect thrust

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yep its perfect (atleast for wsadqe only movement)

snow seal
#

aw i cant..

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well maybe, but i would be at the airport..

flint pebble
zenith current
#

I believe one of my ships last year had grey/white accents

zenith current
zenith current
#

do you want me to dm them to you or post them here

young jacinth
#

Whatever you like

snow seal
#

@young jacinth radiator cones dont have hitboxes unlike thruster cones.. can they jut out?

snow seal
#

also if theres no weapons should we have invulnerability on so radiators cant be used as weapons?

snow seal
#

i'm asking that question

young jacinth
young jacinth
young jacinth
burnt dust
#

yee oki

young jacinth
snow seal
young jacinth
#

yea should put that in the announcement

white apex
young jacinth
white apex
#

there is a difference, people can oc thrust and burn out for extra speed intentionally

white apex
#

like oc boost that heats up

young jacinth
#

I dont get it

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The radiation damage and ship speed are not correlated

snow seal
young jacinth
snow seal
young jacinth
#

That doesnt make sense either, as its not related to raditor damage either

snow seal
#

ohh, yeah thats the point

snow seal
#

holy shit i got an mrt ship to be perfectly balanced

white apex
young jacinth
white apex
#

but why

#

you can just remove radiator applying heat to enemies

young jacinth
# white apex but why

Thats what Im asking you and why I wrote a dozen pointless messages trying to figure out how that would be different from removing damage to all ships

white apex
#

because i think intentionally melting yourself might lead to interesting tactics

young jacinth
#

There isnt a single use case I could think of

cloud escarp
#

Detaching a pretasked crew barracks lol

#

You’d have to fire the oc boost thrusters at the right time but you could use them to generate a shit ton of heat allowing it to melt

young jacinth
#

Radiators dont produce heat and therefore cant seperate anything

snow seal
young jacinth
snow seal
# young jacinth I am

heat damage != radiator damage
the whole misunderstanding is because we are asking to see if overheating is a viable strategy or not

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we are trying to see if you can use heat management as a strategy; one that completely is unrelated to using radiators as the source of damage.
it's just that the solution to radiator damage might end up making it irrelevant to use heat management as a strategy

young jacinth
#

Ah I see now

young jacinth
#

This is the bracket, but I guess Ill probably need to change it since not everyone showed up yet...

brisk briar
young jacinth
#

but you can only use the unes you sent me

zenith current
#

if it makes things easier, my display name is upside down (bys)

young jacinth
#

and you cant modify them in between rounds

brisk briar
young jacinth
#

yea

brisk briar
#

ok

young jacinth
#

well this is the new bracket

zenith current
#

I assume only first place will move on and the rest will go to losers, or will it be the other way around?

desert sky
#

Good luck to everyone

open crest
#

second and first i think

#

go to winner

young jacinth
#

The best 2 will move on

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the loser moves to the losers bracket

burnt dust
#

@young jacinth this isnt on workshop

brisk briar
#

you cant find it but the link works

burnt dust
#

hu

brisk briar
#

you can drag the link onto steam

young jacinth
#

the first ? is 2

snow seal
#

aw shit transparency

burnt dust
#

gaming

snow seal
#

is the blue 2? or 4?

#

blue and red combined*?

young jacinth
snow seal
#

so blue has 2 ppl and 1 moves on?

young jacinth
#

2 move on

snow seal
#

then ? is 3? (2 from 4 above and 1 from blue?)

young jacinth
#

its 4

#

how did blaze handle the finale again?

open crest
#

this is going to be chaotic

young jacinth
#

it was jsut 4 players race once right?

open crest
#

💔

burnt dust
#

where is the radiator mod link

snow seal
#

so this?

#

both 3ppl matches have:
2 move to winner
1 moves to lower

then winner has:
2 move to final
2 move to loser

then loser has
2 move to final
2 elimed

and finals is final?

burnt dust
#

for some reason i cant get the mod off a browser link

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need to access it on steam

#

sdguihgruhughufd8hgjdkhh

#

oki i got it

gray halo
#

sooo can I still be in?

open crest
#

do i play agaisnt losers

#

@young jacinth

young jacinth
#

yea

open crest
#

alr bety

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am i allowed to make new ships while i wait

#

ive identifed my flaws

young jacinth
#

@burnt dust @snow seal @serene latch

young jacinth
gray halo
#

:(

open crest
#

oops

#

wrong message replied

#

i ment to reply to my message xd

#

wait i cant reply to my own messages on pc???

#

im just askign if i can make new ships while i wait

#

or nah

young jacinth
#

no sorry

open crest
#

aw

#

i guess il practice with ym current

#

my backup

gray halo
#

man I REALLLY wanted to be here but I cant now :(

#

whats the bracket bdw?

open crest
#

@young jacinth out of careful consideration I have determined that I am completely cooked and will be forfeiting the tournament so my big back can eat

open crest
young jacinth
open crest
#

nutrients

open crest
#

you’d be in losers bracket

gray halo
young jacinth
gray halo
zenith current
#

this is the plot of cars 3

burnt dust
#

wowzerzs

open crest
#

so I forfeit

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cuz I’m automatically cooked

young jacinth
#

@snow seal @zenith current @serene latch @brisk briar

burnt dust
#

i, being in the losers bracket, am now legally allowed to play my idiot maching

sonic flame
open crest
#

Wait

#

You said we could pick ships already made right??

#

Eh nvm I needa eat

#

honestly I’ll just wait for 2026 Grand Prix

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I’ll be a better player by then xd

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(Hopefully)

burnt dust
sonic flame
#

this is the - wait yeah this is the 2025 one, forgor to read

burnt dust
#

what

#

wat

#

numbn't

sonic flame
#

this is the delayed 2025 grand prix in 2026

burnt dust
#

happy new year

sonic flame
#

#tournament-announcements message

#

indeede

zenith current
#

I may have lagged out, I'll try rejoining

snow seal
#

@zenith current how long does ur boost last?

zenith current
#

no clue, didn't do formal testing on that, I kinda just eyeball it

snow seal
#

???? there isnt even heat storage how do u eyeball

zenith current
#

soul read

snow seal
#

i just pick a spot in a lap to turn off

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okay u just die i guess

young jacinth
zenith current
#

I only keep it up for a second or 2 at most

burnt dust
#

quality

young jacinth
#

@gray halo @zenith current @burnt dust @serene latch losers bracket amtch

gray halo
#

I cant find the radiator mod

zenith current
#

yeah I'm not in that one

burnt dust
young jacinth
#

ups confused you sorry

#

yea you 2 should be switched

gray halo
snow seal
gray halo
#

restarting

young jacinth
zenith current
#

I believe in u mega ❤️

#

thought tb was banned?

gray halo
young jacinth
gray halo
#

but I didnt hit a wall a single time thow

young jacinth
zenith current
burnt dust
#

it was an effective stratagy what are yall talking about

gray halo
burnt dust
#

400 laps

gray halo
#

5 laps but every lap the map rotatets by 45

zenith current
#

kinda mad, I could've recovered if I didn't forget to use my control groups but eh 3rd's still good

gray halo
#

ye

zenith current
#

ggs

gray halo
#

gg

burnt dust
#

gge

#

i expod now

#

buyyyy

gray halo
#

bye

snow seal
#

ships i had built for grand prix:
gave qawa the HT
and besorah the 2mrt

zenith current
#

also my other ship was a collab with Sup3r, thx to him as well ❤️

snow seal
#

nah it's fine

young jacinth
#

To finish my artistic masterpiece:

snow seal
#

👉👈

zenith current
#

I'll give it a shot later

gilded spindle
#

Congrats!

brisk briar
#

weve all been scammed

young jacinth
#

too lazy

brisk briar
zenith current
snow seal
#

ye, tag me

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oh lowkey would be sick to have it crossing finishline

#

and then u can include the 2mrt one also

brisk briar
snow seal
snow seal
#

lol

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needs a planet

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and make it diagonal

#

#general ?

hard rover
snow seal
#

anything u want :)

snow seal
hard rover
#

since i'm someone who doesn't watch and doesn't know much about nascar i have no clue what to go for would you happen to have reference images?

snow seal
#

google

hard rover
#

tried that but it isn't helping as from what i've seen unless i lock in on cars with mcdonald advertising, styles seem to be very varied

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but hm i think i have an idea

zenith current
hard rover
snow seal
snow seal
hard rover
snow seal
#

oops outline

hard rover
#

oh right gimme a sec

tulip monolith
#

I could paint it when I get home in 7 ish jours

hard rover
#

sphe co. stocks 📈

zenith current
#

Real talk everyone paint this ship and I'll make an sotd post with all of the variants

surreal pecan
zenith current
#

question about the unbalance mod: is the ht thrust+ramp completely random or chosen from a list of preset values?

young jacinth
#

its from a list of like 8 values

#

the ramp is always the same

zenith current
#

got it, thx

gray halo
#

man its hapining again a ship that I made to use the mods feacher is weaker than a ship I made for normal game

#

and also I somehow made a ramer into a kite again

#

man idk what Im doing man

gray halo
#

10min left

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f Im a day early

cloud escarp
#

is the unbalance mod really laggy for anyone else?

#

I'm in a mostly empty save running some tests and somehow when unpausing my fps goes down from 120 to 45

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oh wait. it's because missiles don't fucking despawn

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so as I fire them off they're just filling up in the void slowly choking the game

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god dammit

#

good to know though lmao

#

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

wild horizon
gray halo
#

4min left

#

plaus made a game now

#

and the turnament should have started 2 min ago but no one made a move yet exep ship art

wild horizon
#

ive never done an actual tournament before

gray halo
#

ok plaus is live

young jacinth
#

@gray halo @burnt dust

gray halo
#

got it

burnt dust
#

wowzar

wild horizon
#

good luck

brisk briar
#

@young jacinth can we do more than bo1? it seems very quick

young jacinth
gray halo
young jacinth
#

but we can do bo3 for all matches i guess?

brisk briar
#

I think that would be more fun ye

young jacinth
#

lets do that from now then

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@zenith current come back

zenith current
#

whoops

cloud escarp
#

Hey sorry ;-; I overslept, can I still join???

young jacinth
#

@wild horizon @brisk briar

young jacinth
cloud escarp
#

fuck, I prepared a ship and everything 😭

#

I'll just watch the stream then, worst possible time to have an ear infection hampering my alarm lmao

zenith current
#

nukebox is sign of healthy meta

burnt dust
young jacinth
#

@burnt dust @oak linden

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@zenith current @brisk briar

gray halo
#

I feal like I got the worst opponent first

#

when my turn?

#

again?

brisk briar
#

should be right now

gray halo
#

got it

brisk briar
#

or next round ig

young jacinth
#

@zenith current

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vs mega

gray halo
#

got it

#

I dont need a ping to be here

young jacinth
#

@burnt dust

#

vs slb

gray halo
#

man why is it always me

#

ye but why did I die first 3 times in a row

cloud escarp
#

ngl this mod is absolutely devious lol

#

lets fish's nuke flinger terrifies me

gray halo
#

my huge shealds ship was made to survive it cus its large shealds

#

it explodes outsides the range of the ship

cloud escarp
#

the bubble shields are great, they are kinda countered by missile spam though

zenith current
#

this just in, miku miku beam counters minesweeper

gray halo
#

at least it can stop a nuke

#

also after my loss I bouiled 3 diffrind ships to counter the trl ship

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and I didnt have a chance to use ANY

young jacinth
#

@oak linden @brisk briar

zenith current
#

we had a good run

gray halo
#

ye

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and large shealds did beat nukes just now

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also Im hosting unbalanced if any one wants to train or do smth after they lost

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ye no one is joining

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canceled

young jacinth
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@oak linden @burnt dust

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@burnt dust @brisk briar

oak linden
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too buisy targeting to look at the clouds smh

cloud escarp
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@burnt dust gg!

burnt dust
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yeeeeee

brisk briar
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I didn't get my losers bracket :(

zenith current
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ggs

brisk briar
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could have memed harder

young jacinth
cloud escarp
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what would y'all think of a racing event that's more like a relay race, where you race around an area filled with obstacles and your goal is to cross a few gates?

zenith current
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I think I've played with the idea in my head and I'd like it

snow seal
tender root
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curse my stupid time zone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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that looked like so much fun 😔

young jacinth
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Ill try to host the next one at a better time for you

tender root
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3am is probably the latest i can go

wild horizon
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i wish my brother wasnt attacking me the whole time

tender root
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Plaus paid him

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To distract you

wild horizon
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Plaus how could you do this

open crest
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me humbly improving my painting in the background while also having to wait months for a new ship drive

cloud escarp
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Y’all reckon it’s too late to announce a tournament that would be on the 28th?

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I had an idea but kind of forgot to turn it into a full event and now this particular weekend I had in mind may not be long for this world

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Actually let’s just make it another poll.

This is a poll for an upcoming grand prix-like tournament with some twists (you would have to make a small, but specialized design). React below if you could participate in a ~2hr event uninterrupted on:
Time A: <t:1772280000:s>
Time B: <t:1772294400:s>
Time C: <t:1772308800:s>
Time D: <t:1772884800:s>
Time E: <t:1772899200:s>
Time F: <t:1772913600:s>
Time G: other (suggest)

desert sky
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Somehow can make it to all 6!!

gray halo
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sadly I can only B and E and MAYBE C and F if they last less than 1h and its not 100% that I will be able so ye

cloud escarp
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scheduling be hard :T

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at least you're on E, which seems to be the most popular slot right now!

snow seal
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not february for me

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also u share the build requirements? i might not have much time to build during the week before

cloud escarp
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I'm gonna draft up the event sometime this weekend

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I've got other stuff going on rn so my time has been rather limited :T the week prior time time E will be way lighter but I'll do my best to get the event anno out before that

cloud escarp
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I want to use similar dimensions to the racing competition ships

snow seal
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the 2025 grand prix was 20x20

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the year before was 25x25

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2023 was 15x15

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in 2019 there was one.. i cant find anything and idk what tracks were, but it was 12x12

cloud escarp
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I'm very sorry but the announcement detailing the rules will be over the week