yes and arguing on discord
#Shotguns.
upper coral
steel fable
op weapons tend to kill games too, like what I see with Borderlands and some metas in there
dry heart
cosmoteer is about funny shaped spaceships doing stuff that we probably won't be able to do in our lifetimes
quaint pasture
and me sitting here trying to teach people some sense nearly made my bath overflow
thx
vale night
If you're looking for barebones, yes. It comes to the developer to determine where they want to finish filling out the roster. My statement taken to an extreme paints a bleak picture but that's what happens with extremes
small field
yes and arguing on discord
also teer or whatever that is
upper coral
and me sitting here trying to teach people some sense nearly made my bath overfl...
im so sorry 😭 i admit its my fault
dusky musk
Can't wait for a moderator to clean this up
dry heart
also we just passed the 1k mark
quaint pasture
at this point just delete the thread and i'll reupload my idea
dry heart
sounds good to me
vale night
I think a shotgun would be cool. I like shotguns and point blank use of them. But cannons already do the same thing which begs the question of how is a shotgun necessary other than it's cool
quaint pasture
but cannons DONT do the same thing
steel fable
and me sitting here trying to teach people some sense nearly made my bath overfl...
Baths are chill, it may help with the nerves too; I'd suggest to just relax and forget about the thread for a while, we were arguing about a game part and nothing's personal fam
upper coral
I think a shotgun would be cool. I like shotguns and point blank use of them. Bu...
(and flaks)
vale night
They deal immense damage at close range
quaint pasture
BUT THEYRE CANNONS
CANNONS
NOT SHOTGUNS
SHOTGUNS ARE MADE
COMPLETELY FUCKING DIFFERENTLE
upper coral
NOT SHOTGUNS
okay so a texture swap is all youre asking for?
dry heart
at this scale, it's like grapeshot and a normal ball shot
quaint pasture
WHY CSANT ANYONE UNDERSANT THIS
quaint pasture
okay so a texture swap is all youre asking for?
NO
dusky musk
🗿 🗿 🗿
steel fable
We do, it's just that... well, not everyone wants it
quaint pasture
HOW IS THIS CHAT SO FUCKING DUMB
steel fable
it's ok to have different opinions, OP
quaint pasture
SHOTGUNS ARE SPREAD BASED WEAPONS THAT DEAL EXTREME DAMAGE WHEN AT CLOSE RANGE BECAUSE OF BULLET DENSITY
vale night
They satisfy the same purpose is all I'm trying to say. They have different means of reaching it but have the same end result 😖
upper coral
They satisfy the same purpose is all I'm trying to say. They have different mean...
this
quaint pasture
CANNONS FIRE A SINGLE PROJECTILE THAT PIERCES ARMOUR AND EXPLODES
dusky musk
SHOTGUNS ARE SPREAD BASED WEAPONS THAT DEAL EXTREME DAMAGE WHEN AT CLOSE RANGE B...
🤫 calm down
quaint pasture
okay. how does it differ from a flak in terms of purpose?
BECAUSE FLACK IS FUCKING ANTI AIR
honest needle
they're going insane
quaint pasture
ANTI AIR WEAPONS ARE NOT ANTI SHIP WEAPONS
WHY THE FUCK
ARE WE STILL ARGUING
ABOUT FLAK BEING A SHOTGUN
steel fable
We don't need to all agree on the same thing, and we don't all need to have agreement on a conversation
dusky musk
I knew this would happen when they added reddit to discord
quaint pasture
FLAK IS A DEFENSE WEAPON
SHOTGUN IS AN OFFENSE WEAPON
DIFFERENT
FUCKING
THINGS
steel fable
OP, uh, stop please
dry heart
it deals damage with high spread and short range
quaint pasture
im getting my fucking bath.
upper coral
im getting my fucking bath.
drown 😊
steel fable
have a good one fam
dry heart
sometimes social media is bad
dry heart
but this game is fun
quaint pasture
alright everyone stop talking
dry heart
so we want to try and make social media good so we can make the fun game better
quaint pasture
im gonna fucking send this bitch to the underworld
upper coral
seriously?
no, ironically
dry heart
no, ironically
you're not helping.
upper coral
drown with irony
quaint pasture
no, ironically
the only thing ironic here is you
the whole point of your existance is to be woke on twitter
which reminds me
steel fable
don't take it personally yo, it's the internet
quaint pasture
why don't you go back there and try to pick up some hoes
steel fable
this is high time to move on and take the bath
upper coral
[whispers] i dont even have twitter
steel fable
aite I'm out
quaint pasture
your username is a misspelled fucking mineral
honest needle
it deals damage with high spread and short range
higher damage, higher spread, shorter range
upper coral
your username is a misspelled fucking mineral
its mispelled ironically
quaint pasture
and your profile is a fucking computer
upper coral
and your profile is a fucking computer
ironically, mind you
upper coral
how bout i throw you in the bath too
uwu
upper coral
love bathing with my enemies
quaint pasture
yeah you won't be able to feel your legs when im through with you, fuckwit
dim seal
stop being rude stop being horny stop being irrational
80% of people talking in this channel
please
upper coral
stop being rude stop being horny stop being irrational
80% of people talking i...
no 😊
dry heart
this guy has literally been arguing since 22h ago about something he wants in a game he plays
he's tired
let him have his bath
dim seal
.....
quaint pasture
thanks
upper coral
let him have his bath
you say that as if im physically constraining him
quaint pasture
no but ill be physically constraining you to a fucking train railway
if you dont stfu
dry heart
well he said he was going to have a bath 5 mins ago, and he's still not in it
so reduce your chatter to nought and let him her have it
quaint pasture
*her
upper coral
pfft
now youre just treating him like a baby
her*
whatever
doesnt change a thing
quaint pasture
pfft
now youre just treating him like a baby
nah i just wanna get my bath
upper coral
nah i just wanna get my bath
do it
livid slate
Can we drop this
azure tiger
can this actually be a serious discussion instead of someone trolling the other
quaint pasture
can this actually be a serious discussion instead of someone trolling the other
tmai
upper coral
can this actually be a serious discussion instead of someone trolling the other
its been long over
livid slate
Both sides have their faults in all of this
quaint pasture
its been long over
nah cause you're still here
upper coral
its not a good idea, and nobody has provided any way to make it a good idea
quaint pasture
Both sides have their faults in all of this
i didn't do anything till people started arguing
then i just thought "fuck it"
azure tiger
you can look at how Galactic Allegience did their energy-based shotguns.
quaint pasture
its not a good idea, and nobody has provided any way to make it a good idea
who cares
nothing is a good idea
upper coral
nothing is a good idea
???
quaint pasture
cannons came out: cannon walls
steel fable
then i just thought "fuck it"
Let's not tho? We're all tryna improve Walt's game, and throwing petty personal difference into it just clogs the signal with noise
quaint pasture
ions came out: ion walls
steel fable
Things will be alright fam, just take the bath
quaint pasture
railguns came out: railgun walls
steel fable
you'll feel better after
quaint pasture
laser walls
flak walls
walls
walls
walls
it doesn't change jack shit
there's gonna be walls no matter what
upper coral
it does, actually
quaint pasture
HOW
upper coral
as i explained several times over
upper coral
theres no way anyones going to make a ship either not exclusively shotgun, or exclusively shotgun
quaint pasture
IT WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING
dry heart
aluh, please stop winding people up
azure tiger
it would only add a new type of wall that is more effective than a cannon wall at close range, but less effective at further range against anything
quaint pasture
THERE'S NO WAY A WALL ISN'T EXCLUSIVELY ANYTHING OTHER THAN 1 WEAPON ANYWAY
upper coral
aluh, please stop winding people up
its my fault?
quaint pasture
IT DOESNT CHANGE ANYTHING
WHY THE FUCK IS MY WIFI GOING DOWN NOW OF ALL THE TIMES IT COULD HAVE BEEN GOING DOWN
steel fable
We need mutes here, mods around?
azure tiger
i just see it as more diversity to the weapon sandbox.
honest needle
we can abolish ramlocks by giving it enough recoil or maybe backfire at super close range
honest needle
quaint pasture
WAS SHARE AN IDEA THAT I THOUGHT WOULD BE COOL
BUT NO
EVERYONE HAS TO THROW ME OVER THE SIDE BECAUSE OF ONE REASON OR ANOTHER
WHY CAN'T GAMES BE FUCKING FUN ANYMORE
upper coral
alright, then dont make a thread about it if you dont want people to share their own ideas
sharing your own thoughts and then refusing to listen to the other side is a dick move
honest needle
you weren't really sharing an idea tho, were you?
upper coral
you weren't really sharing an idea tho, were you?
i think theres a major issue with this idea
what role would a shotgun like weapon serve in combat?
if its a powerful close range only weapon, itd only be useful for ramming. having a bit of shotguns and a bit of other weapons wouldnt be beneficial, because if you arent ramming, the shotguns become obsolete, if youre ramming, why not just have more shotgun? itd be on the either end of extremely unbalanced, and wouldnt really add anything but a gimmick strat.
third time reposting btw
dry heart
you've been arguing against shotguns on a thread about adding shotguns
if you want to comment, it should to be to add to an idea, not debunk it
honest needle
i think theres a major issue with this idea
what role would a shotgun like weapo...
seriously you have to help come up with solutions to these if your gonna be constantly pushing these questions as well
upper coral
if you want to comment, it should to be to add to an idea, not debunk it
why not debunk it if theres a major flaw with it?
still havent heard any actual proposals on dealing with the major flaw
azure tiger
What is the major flaw you see.
upper coral
watch his solution be "dont add them"
yes, dont add a half-assed product into an otherwise fine game
upper coral
What is the major flaw you see.
i think theres a major issue with this idea
what role would a shotgun like weapon serve in combat?
if its a powerful close range only weapon, itd only be useful for ramming. having a bit of shotguns and a bit of other weapons wouldnt be beneficial, because if you arent ramming, the shotguns become obsolete, if youre ramming, why not just have more shotgun? itd be on the either end of extremely unbalanced, and wouldnt really add anything but a gimmick strat.
honest needle
why not debunk it if theres a major flaw with it?
still havent heard any actual ...
you are not contributing unless you help solve these problems. if not then you only add more problems
azure tiger
Arnt minelaying ships a gimmick strat? Nuclear yeeters?
Shotguns would add more variety in my opinion
There could be ways the shotgun works since games usually depict shotguns as close range only weaponry
upper coral
arent minelayers just another thing awaiting a rework because they didnt add anything but a gimmick to the game?
azure tiger
Meanwhile in real life, shotguns are meant for close-mide range engagements
dry heart
because we're trying to present an idea to walt for HIM to think about, not for other members to think about.
walt has picked very low-voted design contest ships for the walt's-pick part of the vote, so why wouldn't he do the same here?
if it's op, it's op for not long. and if it eventually leads to more strategies in the game, isn't it a benefit?
uncut grove
isn’t this the same “conversation” y’all have been “having” for the past 5 hours
dry heart
22 hours*
dry heart
yeah, the 3rd message was 16h after the first one
ok so, can i suggest an idea for implementation?
azure tiger
Go ahead.
steel fable
ok so, can i suggest an idea for implementation?
would suggest a separate thread if it's non-shotgun related, anything here can get buried quickly and without notice
dry heart
perhaps if shotguns had low knockback, but would discard a large percentage of the directional momentum instead. this would mean that shotguns on stations could be used as momentum dampeners (though this would only work if they were used as anti air) or a way to make an enemy overturn by feinting to the side.
upper coral
because we're trying to present an idea to walt for HIM to think about, not for ...
im sure walt has acknowledged the existance of shotguns atleast once during the development.
if you arent going to suggest anything beyond that, and that it should be a hit and run weapon, then you arent doing the "gods work" you think you are.
upper coral
perhaps if shotguns had low knockback, but would discard a large percentage of t...
alright, thats a start.
dry heart
as it turns out, a full community of members usually has more imagination than a single dev, so i think we should encourage new ideas instead of questioning their feasibility or their viability in the current meta
novel portal
i think the energy/bullet flak would be nice
uncut grove
i think the energy/bullet flak would be nice
the what
dry heart
now i think we should look through this dumpster fire and find the actual idea suggestions, copy-paste them and migrate to a new post
novel portal
lol
uncut grove
the only ones I know of are at the top and the ones sent by you
upper coral
as it turns out, a full community of members usually has more imagination than a...
turns out questioning their feasibility is equally as important.
uncut grove
search for my messages I haven’t posted a lot in here @dry heart
azure tiger
turns out questioning their feasibility is equally as important.
It does not make suggesting the idea useless however. If that's your point, that is.
novel portal
just add it in a mod and have a mini thing for balancing the mod
the way the saris rebalance was done
upper coral
It does not make suggesting the idea useless however. If that's your point, that...
nope
just
i was more expecting a counter-argument trying to solve my proposed issue, instead of attacking my proposal directly
sorry if you feel the same way about what i said, not the intention
azure tiger
It's alright, I guess. How you was behaving earlier though made me think you were an internet troll.
Anyways my thought for the shotgun is not a specific weapon for it, but instead an ammo type, although unlikely to be added as I'd imagine it would be complex.
{Kinda like as if the standard fire is slug round}
uncut grove
oh like making cannons function in a similar way to missile launchers?
upper coral
im a troll because i have something to say against a barebones suggestion?
azure tiger
No like you were directly commenting hateful messages to someone without adding to the actual conversation.
For example, when you said 'Drown'.
uncut grove
it wasn’t a conversation
upper coral
For example, when you said 'Drown'.
it was funny, you gotta admit.
azure tiger
oh like making cannons function in a similar way to missile launchers?
Yea.
upper coral
anyways
uncut grove
and certainly wasn’t an argument
azure tiger
No it wasnt.. to me anyways. (Replied to aLuhminium)
upper coral
It's alright, I guess. How you was behaving earlier though made me think you wer...
this could work
it does solve the issue of either only having shotguns or no shotguns at all, since theyd be interchangeable
uncut grove
defuq
dim seal
shotguns in cosmoteer doesnt feel right
azure tiger
Now its just an issue of should it use the same ammo, or a different ammo type.
dry heart
how do i make one of those code block things that you can scroll through, so my above post isn't pseudo-spam?
azure tiger
I think thats for texts over 2000 characters. [unless you mean the ``` font]
uncut grove
make it a text file or something like that (I think)
dry heart
list of comments to be moved to new post, if we're doing that:
hey, it worked
i'll remove the other post
uncut grove
only on pc but yay
azure tiger
My laptop counts as a phone for some reason.
azure tiger
Gn.
novel portal
oh like making cannons function in a similar way to missile launchers?
see the cannon mod i referenced 3 times
uncut grove
I don’t have the patience to read the same messages 500 more times
cinder bison
I just read this and it was not worth it, oh well
livid slate
Still don't get why people just don't make their suggestions into mods and then people try it out and play with it from there to actually get a feel for it
dim seal
incredible
dim seal
Still don't get why people just don't make their suggestions into mods and then ...
i made a mod for some of my suggestions
nothing happened
quaint pasture
Still don't get why people just don't make their suggestions into mods and then ...
because a lot of people don't know how to mod
uncut grove
Still don't get why people just don't make their suggestions into mods and then ...
modding/coding isn’t that easy for most people
quaint pasture
and a lot of people would also prefer to play as vanilla only
uncut grove
and a lot of people would also prefer to play as vanilla only
which makes it hard to get valuable feedback
quaint pasture
i mean
99% of feedback i received today was to use mods
so idk
just trying to contribute to a game i enjoy playing and yet i still get hate for it
sad times
honest needle
the current game's weapon content isn't great, base game should have more to play with
quaint pasture
yeah
like i said there's like 7 weapons
even if there's some that get added that are very similar to other weapons
just need variety
like- we have scroll bars on the item selection stuff in the build menu
but there's not even enough to get the scroll bar half of the time
you only get it when in blueprint mode
because the "make it so" button takes up that little extra bit of space
but other than that it's just
getting a little bland
livid slate
because a lot of people don't know how to mod
Yes I know but
A. Saying this so maybe more people could start and we can have more mods lol
And B. Ther are people here who could
TBH I really don't see much of an issue with a shotgun weapon, we are worried about rammers but Walt has asked what we'd think on a buzzsaw weapon and what it would look like, suggesting hes actually thinking of having a melee weapon. Or the roof weapons, we were all worried about ways to balance that yet Walt is adding it, honestly don't see much of an issue with a shotgun, sure, maybe it won't be common in MP and almost usless, does not mean it should be completed ousted, now I will admit I'm speaking from a SP biass here as I don't play MP and I could be completely missing the issue with it being a weapon in MP, (sorry I'm reading every comment above I really don't wanna) idk just my take on all the foolishness above
uncut grove
aight fine I could try my hand at it
novel portal
because a lot of people don't know how to mod
it's not that hard and u can just ask someone that knows how
novel portal
can i have the full text i don't want to scroll to the top
uncut grove
just search for that sentence
inland root
If PD has taught us anything, it's that a proper shotgun weapon will be useless outside of rams and replace LCs in rams
clear grail
Dang bro
Galactic Allegiance ain't picking up
Y'all should go get it i cant get him here
He got Heavy and Light shotguns
unreal tusk
easily countered by tbs 
cinder bison
Here's a simple soluton, LC but 3x slower fire rate and it fires 3 LC shells in a 20 degree cone
It'd be a mode like how sync and staggered fire are on a laser
Fills a niche of a high alpha, but LC still have a role of more constant fire
clear grail
Jesus FUCJING Christ just use Mine
bold helm
but we dont want to have to run towards the enemy for a close range mine-attack (we could DIE)
shotgun brings versatility and doesnt require 2 factories to operate , or it could act as a cheaper alternative to the mine launcher , depending on your argument (not saying the projectiles from the shotgun should linger like mines though)
quaint pasture
verizon still trying to defend the point that's already been lost by 3 people
inland root
ok, so, @quaint pasture , I'm confused
there's like 1000 messages in this thread
I guess just pretend you're a salesperson - sell me the idea (and in the process explain what it is)
quaint pasture
here
Maybe a weapon that consumes 10 ammo shells and fires them out with a wide spread, for about 30 meters before their detonation, transforming them into shrapnel that travels with 1/4 of the damage for a further 50 meters before disappearing.
Just a thought. The game lacks close range weaponry.
^here's a copy of the first message
yes it came from such a simple message. this is the internet
inland root
Ok, so this is an ammo-based weapon designed to kill stuff at close range?
quaint pasture
yup
inland root
but, I've already got the large cannon, which is an ammo based weapon that's great at killing stuff at close range. what's so special about this "shotgun" that would make me want to buy it?
quaint pasture
more damage than a cannon but only close range
so it introduces the strategy to get in close before dealing any damage
whereas cannons do much less damage but can do at all ranges
plus who doesn't want shotguns. They've been one of the most effective weapons ever invented since their invention
inland root
but... that sounds just like the large cannon?
sure, large cannons could do damage at longer ranges, but using large cannons at longer ranges means that they won't be effective enough to win - if you want to win with large cannons, you gotta get really close and personal (I'm talking like point blanc - that's the way the good players use large cannons)
quaint pasture
but why have just the large cannon when you can have more weapons
there isn't enough variety to begin with in the first place so why not add more?
just recently read that walt might be adding melee
so by this logic:
what's melee going to add that we don't already have more powerful
why see the downsides to a weapon instead of the upsides?
everything has a downside, thats what balancing is
but at this point everyone is just telling me that it's useless cause we have cannons
that's not exactly the point
inland root
it's not useless per say
quaint pasture
the point is to get a new weapon in the game so that we aren't stuck with the same 7 guns for the rest of the game
inland root
Let's go back to the salesman analogy - Sure, I might think that this shotgun would be good to have, but you still have yet to convince me that I should be spending my money here
quaint pasture
(no offense, walt, but we are lacking a little, and as a long-time player, i do have to say they get old after the 1001'st time you use the same weapon)
inland root
what about cluster missiles? what about a heavy railgun? what about different types of armor?
I could spend my money on those things - you gotta convince me that this shotgun is the hot new thing
quaint pasture
heavy railgun would be cool but there's already a railgun and we know how that dumpster fire went
cluster missiles sound interesting though
now you got me thinking about that
damnit
inland root
this money is analogous to dev mana - or in more general terms, developmental resources
walt can only work on so many things at once - and they've gotta make sure they make the most of their time
quaint pasture
or walt will just choose what he wants considering it's his game
i get the feeling that walt made cosmoteer because he wanted a game that suited all his needs
money was just a bonus
mortal birch
I was about to mention that; it sounds like you could satisfy this w/ cluster missiles
inland root
(no offense, walt, but we are lacking a little, and as a long-time player, i do ...
Ha, I do agree with that. perhaps not on a weapon by weapon basis, but certainly on a tactic by tactic basis.
quaint pasture
i mean the funny thing is the "metas"
inland root
i get the feeling that walt made cosmoteer because he wanted a game that suited ...
Whatever their motivation was, one thing is true - walt is willing to listen to the community.
quaint pasture
big walls with a shit ton of thrusters
inland root
I'm not even going to go into the meta. that is an entirely different topic
quaint pasture
Whatever their motivation was, one thing is true - walt is willing to listen to ...
well i dont think he's willing to listen to the community if he has to read through chats like what this one ended up being 💀
inland root
i mean the funny thing is the "metas"
and, well, it is not a topic one can simply discuss without at least a very very good understanding of it (I can could the players who's opinion on the meta will be respected by all with my fingers)
quaint pasture
ive seen enough to know enough
but im gonna steal that cluster missile idea
lol what if it needed mines to make the missiles
inland root
well i dont think he's willing to listen to the community if he has to read thro...
Walt absolutely reads these threads. I've seen plenty of examples of them replying and joining the conversation, voicing their concerns over the practicalities and such
inland root
but im gonna steal that cluster missile idea
quaint pasture
i really don't think he'd wanna read though this dumpster fire of a chat tho
quaint pasture
https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1019827596596367370
goddamn it
inland root
i really don't think he'd wanna read though this dumpster fire of a chat tho
If you can come up with something good, I will make sure it comes to their attension. mark my word.
quaint pasture
me who has very unoriginal ideas:
the only other thing i can think of is modular weaponry
but i doubt that'd be worth it considering people have cannon walls..
and ion walls...
.. just walls in general..
inland root
I can think of several applications for modular weapons
inland root
let's take a simplifed example - istrolid style weapon modifers
quaint pasture
idfk what istrolid means but cool
inland root
istrolid is a game
inland root
make a fuckin new post
I'll do it.
inland root
alright fine
inland root
happy?
quaint pasture
kinda not the exact same idea i had but its similar
theirs is sorta more simple
my idea was like from the depths weapon making..
quaint pasture
-_-
inland root
like, let's just put it this way.
opportunity cost - it's a lot more time-efficent for walt to work on something other than this complete rework of their game
that's even if the players will like it - and I came here to play cosmo, not ftd.
I don't want ftd style weapons that take 50 spreadsheets and 5 maths research papers to build when I play cosmo.
quaint pasture
it was gonna be a lot more simple
like 1 of each weapon but way more powerful, bigger and takes like 5 parts to build
it was like weapons that build like railguns
inland root
that is exactly what was proposed in https://discord.com/channels/314103695568666625/1019757042057093201
quaint pasture
no- they're proposing weapons and systems that can be upgraded by addition of modules
i'm talking about big weapons that require those modules as part of their structure
so you'd have the cannon turret, ammunition storage, loading mechanism, etc
they're saying cannons but bigger barrels
essentially
inland root
for starters don't complain that walt doesn't read your threads when you go off topic in them yourself
quaint pasture
i never said that
i said the chances of him reading dumpster fires are very low
i personally don't mind if he reads this or not
although i'd prefer he woudln't waste time reading it because it's so bad
second: why you calling me out in their thread for having an idea that's similar to theirs
seems a bit bitchy tbh
if i wanted to steal their idea i'd just do it
but i've not made a post on it because it's there already and i didn't want this exact drama
and yet you're over heare practically accusing me of stealing their idea and wanting to post something that's the same
the ONLY reason i haven't posted my idea is because they're both that similar
even you can't figure out the difference despite me explaining it
differences between weapons that need components to function and weapons that take optional components to boost them are different things
and then telling me that i'm going off topic is the biggest load of dumbassery i've heard today
considering YOU were the one who sent me off topic in the first place
trying to propose different ideas from other threads to throw me off my idea
why should everyone else be better than mine? why is my idea thrown to the bottom of the barrel just because it's similar to something else
i'm not saying i should be at the top
i just don't want to be ridiculed for trying to get one of the most effective weapons in fucking history into a game about space
but i guess that's all people care about isnt it?
making me miserable just because i had a fucking idea
then i'm in the wrong for trying to defend my argument
and try to get people to understand that it's not a bad idea
livid slate
Jesus can you stop taking g criticism so personally
echo bear
#rant and vent
livid slate
Your not the first to have this idea
And every time this idea pops up it goes the same way
quaint pasture
when you join a server of toxic kids:
livid slate
Also constantly insulting people does not help your situation
If anything your acting like a kid
quaint pasture
really cause over the last 24 hours i've been told things that i honestly never expected from a server like this
livid slate
How about thia
Because this topic keeps getting to the same end of you getting upset over the criticism and end in a offtopic rant
Just end it there
Suggest your idea
What the cannon would be
And end it there
If everyone else is the toxic kid then be the bigger person
quaint pasture
..even you said cannon...
yknow what
i will end it here
why have shotguns when we already have so many weapons to work with already
so much variety ✨
im done defending this
do what you want with it, idc anymore
honest needle
cannons were used against this in consideration that they had low range and high spread
shotguns can work differently, they could stay powerful and have longer range but enough spread that shots can miss the enemy ship beyond a certain range
might be interesting to give them low weight but a huge amount of recoil, throwing your ship away from the enemy one every time it fires
mortal birch
💀
clear grail
when you join a server of toxic kids:
leave if youre Unsatisfied
dim seal
don't
honest needle
leave if youre Unsatisfied
your negatively helping :/
dim seal
you're just proving their point
clear grail
Well Hey hey Hey!
uncut grove
they’ve been rather calm for what they’ve had to deal with imo
livid slate
The issue is people like to doggypile onto things
livid slate
Can you not
cinder bison
please don't make this any more dramatic than it needs to be
dusky musk
How have the moderators not done anything about this
It's been like 24 hours since I did an @ moderator and beef showed up
upper coral
please don't make this any more dramatic than it needs to be
Or else? Come fight me you coward.
cinder bison
sure
cosmoteer 1v1, 1.5mil
Hosting rn
and if you don't, I don't mind, all up to you
upper coral
Cosmoteer? Isnt this what cosmoteer is all about, arguing on discord to no end?
I believe this thread has ascended to peak entertainment status.
cinder bison
I meant the game, and yeah, mainly because of insults galore
honest needle
cannons were used against this in consideration that they had low range and high...
on the actual topic of shotguns
upper coral
~~on the actual topic of shotguns~~
Shur.up ughhhh shakes butt
That topic is so last year
🙄
honest needle
cannons were used against this in consideration that they had low range and high...
on the actual topic of shotguns
upper coral
🏚️⚠️
dim seal
On the actual topic of shotguns
the way i would imagine it, it could be some sort of spinal weapon, but not modular
3x8 or something
honest needle
biggo guns are fun
cinder bison
a big high damage shotgun
proud vault
this is still going?
cinder bison
the concept is cool, the mess isn't
steel fable
I'm not opposed to fragmentation railgun shells, and/or railgun shells that split the second they leave the barrel
that'd be wack
Can you imagine? a very vulnerable spinal weapon, used in close quarters combat
honest needle
shields:
quaint pasture
the way i would imagine it, it could be some sort of spinal weapon, but **not** ...
spinal shotgun?
brain melts
i can see a shotgun only being spinal if it was durable
plus you wouldn't be able to shield it as well because yknow
you need to be as close as possible
tbh i think cannons should be spinal
since literally every cannon ever made other than tank cannons are essentially a spinal weapon
since... yknow
steel fable
That's a howitzer
quaint pasture
quaint pasture
That's a howitzer
still a cannon
steel fable
normal cannons don't get more power (linearly at least) by having a longer barrel
hence the spinal mount on railguns
quaint pasture
then the same should go for shotguns
they don't get more power from having longer barrels
dim seal
shotguns don't exist at larger scales hmm
steel fable
unless they're railgun shells 
just my $0.02 input anyways, that'd be interesting. Large Cannon, or Railgun getting shotgun ammo
quaint pasture
imagine if
the shotgun
got its own ammo type
this reminds me of the iphone meme
steel fable
Yay another factory 🫠
quaint pasture
"What if, the new iphone had a new camera lens"
'OMG YES'
"Wait, wait, guys! I have an idea... What if.. the new Iphone.. Had another new camera lens"
'monkey noises'
steel fable
ye I guess we'll need something new one way or another, whether that's turret or factory
upper coral
the concept is cool, the mess isn't
YES, NOBODY HAS EVER BEFORE CONSIDERED A GUN THAT COULD FIRE MULTIPLE PROJECTILES AT A TIME?!??!?!?! SUCH A CONCEPT, COOL, REVOLUTIONARY MESS ISNT SO?!!?!?!? CONCEPT?!
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cinder bison
What's the issue? All I did was answer the question calmly
light depot
shotguns don't exist at larger scales hmm
wouldnt shotguns at this scale just be considered flak cannons?
cinder bison
If they dont shoot missiles, no but if they do yes
unreal tusk
<@&340613895427325952> please right-click and close this thread. walt already responded so there is no reason for this shitshow to live on :))
honest needle
i wouldn't close this thread, people here are still talking about shotguns
its one specific person who is causing problems here
unreal tusk
i'm sure walt will create a new thread when he is ready to implement shotguns
dim seal
i wanted to talk about shotguns, there is no need to close this thread due to previous incidents
unreal tusk
whatever you guys discuss isn't being considered for the game yet, so there is no reason to continue the thread
honest needle
does that mean we still shouldn't come up with ideas for how it can be implemented?
no
quaint pasture
I actually agree with salephz here
walt's said his part
and further discussion about shotguns as a concept is just bringing the salty people back
so it's probably best to leave it
light depot
what a silly thread
quaint pasture
the idea or the arguments?
honest needle
and further discussion about shotguns as a concept is just bringing the salty pe...
i feel like one salty person shouldn't be able to shut down a thread
cinder bison
It wasn't just one, mind you but I get your mindset, but I disagree. This should be brought to an end for now atleast
honest needle
at least do something against overly salty people so they don't turn more threads to hell
unreal tusk
the idea or the arguments?
also as OP, you have control to close the thread
(right click and close thread)
unreal tusk
hmm idk how i closed a thread once then..
quaint pasture
(right click and close thread)
tried that a bunch of times and it never did anything
believe me, i tried to stop you guys from battling back then
unreal tusk
i must be trippin bc i know that i closed the missile part rename thread
dim seal
thread is different from forums!!!!
unreal tusk
what does delete do?
quaint pasture
deletes the first message on the post