Transparent texture issue

[junior laurel]

Hello!
I am currently trying to make a CIT resourcepack for a friend, and they want to have "holograms". The one on the left works with transparency using a stained glass as the item. Is there any way to make it work for any item instead?

I checked through other forums and saw this from the bot, but it does not make sense for me.

Thank you in advance!

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[wispy fjord]

so basically, in Minecraft, blocks are sorted into "render layers"
blocks in each layer have different visual properties
solid blocks like stone and dirt cannot have transparent textures or "missing" pixels
cutout blocks like flowers can have transparent texture but not translucent
and translucent blocks are the ones like stained glass that support the hologram-like textures

you cannot change a block's render layer to translucent without mods

you would need either Optifine or Continuity

so using stained glass is probably the best option

[junior laurel]

Ah okie! That makes a lot more sense now, thank you! Would a beacon count as transparent? Also, I'm using CITresewn as a substitute for optifine

[wispy fjord]

beacons are transparent yes

but not translucent

the part of the glass you see through is "missing" pixels or just nothingness

[junior laurel]

so this texture wouldn't work on a beacon?

[wispy fjord]

no sadly

also CITresewn only recreates one part of Optifine's functionality

you will need Continuity for changing block render layers

[junior laurel]

so it doesn't support transparency by itself?

[wispy fjord]

I don't believe CITresewn does

The reason for the other block render layers is that they are less intensive to render by the game

[junior laurel]

So if I understand correctly, if I get both CITresewn and Continuity, it can support transparency? or is that still modded only

[wispy fjord]

or less performance heavy

[junior laurel]

Yeah that's fair

[wispy fjord]

yes if you get those then you can make any block in the cutout render layer use the translucent one instead

you cannot make solid blocks use the translucent one even with mods

[junior laurel]

I think I'm getting it now

[wispy fjord]

oh I think there is another mod that can do the render layer thing too

one sec

Polytone

[junior laurel]

So mc doesn't like solid blocks having any transparency (or related). Some blocks like stained glass do have the option to be translucent. Things like beacons are transparent

and even with the mods, the beacon can't be changed?

[wispy fjord]

oh well actually
soild blocks can have cutout

in certain versions

[wispy fjord]

it can because it uses the cutout, not solid

I made the beacon use translucency in my own pack

I do realize that this is somewhat confusing how I've said all this

maybe I can recap

[junior laurel]

Please do I'm so lost ;-;

[wispy fjord]

solid - stone, dirt, any full block really - can only be changed to cutout render layer using Ewan's core shader pack before a certain recent snapshot that broke it

cutout - flowers, stonecutter, beacon, glass - can be changed to translucent using Optifine or Continuity or Polytone

translucent - stained glass

[junior laurel]

OH okie

and CITresewn doesn't do that

[wispy fjord]

correct
at least to my knowledge

I doubt it does

[junior laurel]

I don't see anywhere where it doesn't

[wispy fjord]

wait
CITresewn is only for items

and the items have different translucency rules

all of them support cutout at least

and some like slime balls support translucency

[junior laurel]

They stay as items in item frames and the server we play has /hat, those count as items still right?

[wispy fjord]

yes

[junior laurel]

so CITresewn should still work but the translucency doesn't

[wispy fjord]

I think so yeah

you would still need to use stained glass items

[junior laurel]

and a beacon...?

[wispy fjord]

a beacon item does not support translucency without the same mods I mentioned for blocks

as far as I know

[junior laurel]

okie! I'll try with either Polytone or Continuity, thank you

[wispy fjord]

oh wait one thing to note
if you use those mods, you don't just use the translucent texture and it works
for Continuity, you have to create a block.properties file in minecraft/optifine
and you have to list which blocks you want to change the render layer

idk how Polytone works tbh, I've only gotten it to run other packs that needed it for the transparency

[junior laurel]

understood! Do you possibly have a block.properities file I can use as a template?

[wispy fjord]

I do one sec

just put spaces between each block

[junior laurel]

a little confused.
Is layer.cutout the line for the block I want to use? i.e beacon? or is that translucent

[wispy fjord]

a beacon is by default in cutout, so you should put it under translucent here to change it to translucent

[junior laurel]

okie! ty

[zealous zephyr]

afaik all "pure" items support translucency (pure item = item that cannot be placed down as block (so no carrots for example either))