Invisible item frame without getting through command

[haughty knot]

A small issue with the "/give ap item_frame{EntityTag:{Invisible:1}}" is the item being placed on it is smaller than the one on the normal item frame.
I'm thinking of creating a resource pack via CustomModelData:1 to get the true invisible item frame but that's why I made this to ask for help, dunno how the .json files could be done

[zealous frigate]

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[supple flint]

The only difference between visible and invisible is that the item is moved slightly further into the item frame.
And CustomModelData wouldn't help you cause a placed item frame isn't an item.

[haughty knot]

ye the item frame is an entity

oh wait there's no way to have a normal one and invisible one at the same time right? beside the command one?

[supple flint]

Yes

and yes, it's an entity that uses a block model though (somehow)

[haughty knot]

then what is itemframe_background?

it's a part of item_frame.block alongside planks_birch?

[supple flint]

that's just the texture it uses?

wait, where do you see itemframe_background?

I don't see a texture with that name

[haughty knot]

you mean how i know about it?

[supple flint]

I'm asking where do you see the name "itemframe_background" being mentioned?

[haughty knot]

nowhere, I was just wondering online about item frame model on https://minecraft.novaskin.me/resourcepacks

when I search the item frame, 1 result showed that

I checked it and then I see how it's a part of an item frame

ok so the cmd idea is out, can I still make item frame invisible?

[indigo gust]

with a resource pack you can make all item frames invisible but I can't think of a way to make only certain ones invisible and keep the item placement

[haughty knot]

ye I get what you mean, I tried to do that but I remember item frame is an entity

ok so I'll accept all items frames invisible, how should I do it?

make item_frame.block.png an empty 32x16?

[supple flint]

just make the model empty

so just a .json file with {} in it

[haughty knot]

so item_frame.json that has only {} ?

inside models > block folder?

[supple flint]

Yes

[supple flint]

What's this supposed to be?

I'd suggest that if you wanna overwrite default stuff that you take a look at default assets, not random packs.

!faq default-pack

[zealous frigate]

FAQ

Minecraft: Default Pack

Disclaimer: Use these packs as REFERENCE, don't put your models inside them, it just increases your pack needlessly. Also don't put any of the unedited files from it into your own pack. The distributions of default assets in your pack is illegal.

For Java Edition:
(This works the same for all versions, 1.17 is just used as an example here)
Go to .minecraft/versions/1.17 and open the 1.17.jar in there with a zip program. Alternativley you can copy the .jar file and change the file extension to .zip and double click it.
Extract/copy the "assets" folder inside the jar somewhere. It contains all the default models/textures.

For Bedrock Edition:
Go to https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/minecraft/creator/documents/resourcepack and scroll to "Building the Resource Pack". The download for the vanilla resource pack can be found right above that title.
Alternatively here is the direct download link: https://aka.ms/resourcepacktemplate

[haughty knot]

ye I have the default pack as folder

ok ill keep that in mind

[haughty knot]

ye you're right, it's not smaller but more into the frame

the top one is the one getting through command, the middle is with texture pack and the bottom is the default one