26.1 Snapshots

[rain herald]

nope lmao

[agile hull]

Depends on the contribution. If more than one person contributes, ports go faster

[toxic yoke]

ports are private

[rain herald]

um so while yes registerForHolder uses the type directly, uses were not changed to use ? extends T so it requires a cast every time

so the double generic is still needed 💔

[agile hull]

Yes, but there is a team iirc?

Idk

Obviously not part of said team

[midnight lake]

there is a team yes

[toxic yoke]

did u guys start

or are planning a big update like Create 6

[midnight lake]

porting has started yes

[toxic yoke]

based

[lucid tree]

Did you create something to port it? /Jk

[sick crystal]

boooo

[lethal onyx]

fluid model support is merged and building

[rain herald]

I predict today

or tomorrow

maybe tmrw cuz they probably wanna get some more bugs in td

[plucky hollow]

think we borked removing chars from text fields at some point
when i open chat start typing out some long string then press hold backspace to remove stuff
it only removes the first char, have to keep tapping backspace or select everything to remove it all
this does not happen in vanilla

noticed this in my pre2 mod dev env while trying to run commands
couldnt easily backspace from incorrect tab complete

[lethal onyx]

uhm why do we keep the pre-1/2 branch around and not just merge and continue on the port branch?

[wintry flower]

Presumably the port to the pre was not considered "complete"?

[lethal onyx]

imo it's complete enough to continue on the main port branch

[graceful laurel]

Can't reproduce, tried in creative inventory search, chat and a custom UI's EditBox. Are you sure you're not just being slightly impatient? The key-repeat takes a moment to trigger

[plucky hollow]

oh its something in my mod env
which is weird cause i dont touch anything that could cause this

welp time to grab a shovel and find out why my mods which are simple furniture/dice/food infusion mods are causing key repeats to not work
(yeah also noticed its more than just backspace, holding any key does not repeat)

[visual basin]

furniture mods messing with keybinds as a free QOL feature is standard modding

[plucky hollow]

thats even more confusing, not including a single one of my mods it still occours

include(
//    "Registree",
//    "ApexCore",
//    "ItemResistance",
//    "InfusedFoods",
//    "FantasyDice",
//    "TestMod",
//    "FantasyFurniture",
//    "ApexCompatibilities",
)

//includeFurnitureSets(
//    "Nordic",
//    "Venthyr",
//    "Bone",
//    "Dunmer",
//    "Necrolord",
//    "Royal",
//    "Decorations"
//)

i now have a bare bones mdk no mod code yet key repeats still broke

[visual basin]

does it happen in prod or just dev

[plucky hollow]

havnt tried compiling my mods but i know it doesnt happen in neo dev or vanilla prod

unsure how i would test neo pre2 prod
not entierly sure how i would install it to prisim

happening in a fresh mdk download too

but not vanilla or neo dev

weird

the only changes i made to the mdk and key repeats still dont work for me

that envvar is to fix ELS crashing on startup which has been a thing since ~snap8 iirc
-# #1445764870564745228 message

[plucky hollow]

key repeats work fine up until 26.1.0.0-alpha.13+snapshot-10
but moment i try 26.1.0.0-alpha.14+snapshot-11 or newer key repeats stop working

so its related to the ELS seg fault?
i have ELS disabled in neo dev (fml.toml>earlyWindowControl=false)
if i reenable it and add the below env var to client runs key repeats now fail in neo dev
environment("__GL_THREADED_OPTIMIZATIONS", "0") // fix ELS crashing on 26.1-snapshot-8+

yep disable ELS and key repeats work fine (can even keep the env var)

tldr

for some reason when i have EarlyLoadingScreen enabled key repeats dont work
disable ELS key repeats work fine
-# fml.toml>earlyWindowControl=false

ive had ELS disabled since ~snap8 cause it started seg faulting
-# #1445764870564745228 message

i also need to specify the following env var when ELS is enabled which works around the seg fault
tested and key repeats work with and without this env var
(not entierly sure why or what it does, just that it allows me to launch with ELS)
-# environment("__GL_THREADED_OPTIMIZATIONS", "0")

[sleek perch]

Which GPU?

[steady heath]

Is this a bug in the NVIDIA driver?

[plucky hollow]

nvidia geforce rtx 3060 and this is what nvidia-smi spits out for versions
NVIDIA-SMI 580.126.18 Driver Version: 580.126.18 CUDA Version: 13.0

[sleek perch]

I see

Then yeah, that function is what I expect

Essentially the way the nVidia OpenGL driver works is that when you perform an OpenGL call, what the driver actually does is take your command and enqueue it in a worker thread

Then the function returns immediately

Essentially allowing you to keep working while the driver does all it has to do to complete your OpenGL call

Disabling threaded optimization disables this worker thread IIRC

So every command is executed without copying

That doesn't mean that it is executed synchronously, as stuff like uploading to the GPU might still happen off-thread, but most commands should be executed on-thread now

This is my extremely high-level knowledge as someone that only dabbles in GP, so I might have oversimplified or got some details wrong, but this should be the general gist

Why that causes the crash, no idea

[plucky hollow]

disabling __GL_THREADED_OPTIMIZATIONS (setting to 0) is not whats causing ELS to crash
it crashes if that env var is not defined (have not tried setting it to anything other than 0)
-# or maybe i misunderstood what you were saying?

but my key repeat issue only happens if ELS is enabled
if i disable ELS key repeats dont work, with and without that env var defined

[steady heath]

By default, it is enabled; the environment variable disables it

iirc

[plucky hollow]

Yeah that’s how I understood it and without the env var ELS crashes really early on into the start up

[steady heath]

but this NVIDIA optimization breaks a lot of things even Sodium disables it by default

Does this also affect Windows with an NVIDIA GPU?

[plucky hollow]

Unsure I run fedora Linux

And don’t have a windows device to test on

[paper cedar]

You can also force this off by enabling synchronous GL debug callbacks IIRC

since logically the callback can only be synchronous if the GL method call is synchronous (to the driver, not the GPU)

[sleek perch]

I do, how am I supposed to test this?

[plucky hollow]

uh just launch the game i guess, i cant even get a window without ELS seg faulting

like it crashes basiclly instantly

if you get any further than this with ELS enabled (and without the env var/optimizations enabled)
the issue is not occuring for you

[sleek perch]

How can I do that? Lol

That's my question

[plucky hollow]

how do you launch the client?

cause thats all im doing, to trigger the ELS crash

[paper cedar]

That's not a segfault though 😄

luckily

[plucky hollow]

oh im just going by what embeded said it was

trust them to know what it is more than myself

[paper cedar]

Segfault means you get a full VM crash

that is just an exception

[graceful laurel]

The lines above the exception do look suspiciously like a JVM crash header

[plucky hollow]

this is the error i just got (from the video i posted)

[tawny spire]

Failed to create gist due to an exception: Server returned HTTP response code: -1, message: 'null' for URL: https://api.github.com/gists

[plucky hollow]

and the hs_err if thats helpful too

[paper cedar]

Ah THATS a segfault 😄

[inner creek]

it's coming

[plucky hollow]

oh lord

[quartz spade]

New version detected: 26.1-pre-3.

[sleek perch]

Yes

[plucky hollow]

26.1 - Pre Release 3

• Primer: https://github.com/ChampionAsh5357/neoforged-github/blob/update/26.1/primers/26.1/index.md
• Article: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-26-1-pre-release-3
• Changelog: https://misode.github.io/versions/?id=26.1-pre-3
• Notion: https://apexmodder.notion.site/2524f070f88880648482e3cbdcba566a?v=2524f070f88880b29f60000c52785ecb&p=3264f070f88880afbadce050e5dc7c0f&pm=c
• SnowMan: https://github.com/neoforged/Snowman/commit/935700989716f4da0ebce7b187224ae3e38acf11

SlicedLimes Videos:

• Main: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8k3g3MO2kU
• Pack: N/A

||<@&1067092163520909374>||

[inner creek]

MC-306840 - Dolphins still drown themselves when no players are nearby

finally

[lethal onyx]

small one

[high sonnet]

we are yet to see if that actually fixes them....
they do like to drown....

[lethal onyx]

rc1 on friday?

[robust pike]

4096...

[quartz spade]

Minecraft 26.1 Pre-Release 3

Today we are shipping the third pre-release with minor tech changes and bug fixes.Happy mining!Technical ChangesThe Data Pack version is now 101.1Data Pack Version 101.1World GenerationPlacement Modifierscount Placement ModifierThe count field is now limit...

Mar 17, 2026, 3:01 PM

[robust pike]

Small primer: https://github.com/neoforged/.github/pull/39/changes/8bd558acd57ef8c791d677c4b4830a1871cbf9d3

[plucky hollow]

quick port

pre3 pr version: 26.1.0.0-alpha.0+pre-3.20260317.152434

use main release #1445764870564745228 message

[inner creek]

they ysually do rc1 on Thursdays

[plucky hollow]

so long as they dont do anything tomorrow, im switching isp tomorrow so prob wont be around

[tiny pumice]

https://tenor.com/k9Hu9xMCle5.gif

[graceful laurel]

Considering how trivial pre3 is, I think we're good to merge and tag another release

[plucky hollow]

what format would the tag name be? release/26.1.0.0-alpha.15+pre3 or release/26.1.0.0-alpha.15+pre-3

-# or doesnt it rly matter

[sick crystal]

latter, doesn't really matter though

pre-3 fits mojangs naming scheme though

[plucky hollow]

sticking to mojangs naming scheme sounds good, went with that

26.1.0.0-alpha.15+pre-3 should be available once CI finishes
-# ~~ https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/actions/runs/23208455445?pr=2879 ~~

[plucky hollow]

if it starts that is... runner taking little bit to pickup the job
oh ofc as i press enter github picks it up

[untold oyster]

we need to poke those custom actions we have and update them

[wintry flower]

Awesome @plucky hollow! I taught you once how to publish releases and now I can just chill and let you do all the work 😄

[bold forge]

or... get rid of them and go back to good ol' human labour

[plucky hollow]

that sounds like ez way to accidently publish mc sources or something we shouldnt be doing

[sick crystal]

https://i.imgur.com/SDVT5Pj.png only one class messed up I call that a win

[plucky hollow]

all those missing textures are "triggering" me

[plucky hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8k3g3MO2kU

[sick crystal]

I'm working on it!

I'm on G

[inner creek]

Sewing Kit and Tool Belt didn't need any code changes (vs pre-2)
Packing Tape was on snapshot-8 and did need one little code change

[sick crystal]

I just had the screen change from the GuiGraphics change

[plucky hollow]

yeah most who have already done alot of the snap/pre porting shouldnt need to change much for pre3

now yall who are still on 1.21.1 or some shit, port now or else your gonna cause some physical damage upon yourself later

[sick crystal]

Yeah 1.21.1 to 26.1 is yuuuuuuge

[inner creek]

1.21.11 -> 26.1 is not too bad
1.21.1 -> 26.1 has all of 1.21.3, 1.21.4, 1.21.5, 1.21.8, 1.21.10, 1.21.11, and the changes to 26.1 itself

[sick crystal]

God forbid the people still on 1.20 lol

[plucky hollow]

some of those are bad enough on their own

let alone all together

[inner creek]

yeahhhhhhh

[plucky hollow]

21.4 for anyone with model gen is oof, im sorry

[inner creek]

specially when adding the neoforge transfer system stuff to the mix

[lethal onyx]

Please provide input on this implementation of cauldron interaction registration events https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/pull/2999
If anyone has a better idea just use that branch, this is literally the most primitive implementation I could come up with.

[plucky hollow]

whats wrong with just creating a new dispatcher and calling the put methods myself? like vanilla does
thats has been working just fine in mod dev

only thing i would like is better way to obtain/modify already existing interactions

like im doing for the water bottle

to allow my potion bottle -> potion cauldron

vanilla does water bottle -> water cauldron

[lethal onyx]

before my PR the put methods are package-private and registering to non vanilla and not your own dispatchers would be impossible.
also the id mapper is private

[plucky hollow]

ahh yeah i do have the following AT too which makes everything public since its all nice useful helpers/default impls

# Cauldron Interactions
public net.minecraft.core.cauldron.CauldronInteraction$Dispatcher *()
public net.minecraft.core.cauldron.CauldronInteractions *()

[plucky hollow]

also yeah i guess the event is nice to register to another mods interactions
but personally id just have a mod specific entry point which does similar to what im doing
and grab that mods CauldronInteraction.Dispatcher and call the put methods on it

but the event is nice for that i suppose

i also dont think these events should be fired on the neoforge bus
they feel like they should be fired on the mod bus

[wintry flower]

Just be careful with threading if you're registering directly

[plucky hollow]

anywhos left all these as comments on github so that they dont get lost here in discord

[round pike]

What does the .0.0 mean?

[inner creek]

26.1.0 is the mc version, including the .0 to mean "no hotfixes yet"

the last .0 is the neoforge build, which is 0 because it's alpha so not yet part of the standard development cycle

[round pike]

Ooooh

What would the version for full 26.1 version be?

[inner creek]

26.1.0.0-beta, followed by 26.1.0.1-beta, ...

[round pike]

Interesting

[inner creek]

same as current naming but one version part more to ensure no conflicts with mc versions

[round pike]

Ah! Makes sense!

[lethal onyx]

dang it the bootstrap method runs before mods are loaded

[graceful laurel]

Attempt number three of "fixing" block model submits: https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/pull/3001

[lethal onyx]

With that said, needing the dispatcher to construct the block brings up another issue which I didn't consider before: dispatchers need to be registered before blocks but items (and therefore also blocks) need to be registered to fill the dispatcher, so the event split is unfortunately needed and needs to be split further by firing them at different times.
So the dispatcher registration needs to be before registration and the interaction event needs to run after registration.

[lethal onyx]

We should also have a look at flammability (I can't find a datamap or an event for it)

[craggy river]

Isn’t that patched into blocks via a method or two?

[lethal onyx]

flammability in vanilla is two maps on FireBlock that are only used on the Blocks.FIRE instance with a method that is private

[craggy river]

#modder-1․21․1-support message
Yeah. Didn’t NeoForge patch flammability into being methods of the Block class?

[tawny spire]

phoenix492

[Reference to](#modder-1․21․1-support message) #modder-1․21․1-support [➤ ](#modder-1․21․1-support message)getFireSpreadSpeed is from IBlockStateExtension

thomask3897 referenced · Sep 10, 2025, 3:04 PM

[lethal onyx]

flammability is 2 values not just one

[craggy river]

https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/blob/3f86c8c82dd7993ce1aaaf7dee0802031a99f740/src/main/java/net/neoforged/neoforge/common/extensions/IBlockExtension.java#L676
https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/blob/3f86c8c82dd7993ce1aaaf7dee0802031a99f740/src/main/java/net/neoforged/neoforge/common/extensions/IBlockExtension.java#L720
Yes, and aren't multiple methods patched in to handle that?

I mean, that might have changed for 26.1; but I didn't think it had.

[lethal onyx]

but having to override that for normal blocks like a normal log seems ass

[craggy river]

I agree, 100%.

I've commented on it before, I think.

I'd vastly prefer a datamap or something similar to that. Ideally, vanilla would patch it to be part of the block properties (or something similar that would work for multiloader more cleanly) but I don't think that's going to happen.

[craggy river]

I believe the explanation was something to the effect that the flammability behavior is a part of the block's behavior, and thus should be handled via a method.

[lethal onyx]

those override are older than the code I'm porting and that used the vanilla method so this is probably not intended to be the only way

[craggy river]

I'm just saying what I've heard in the past.

[north berry]

I mean, iirc we have (or used to have) systems where datamaps are used by default yet still a method exists for e.g. per-state/per-stack behavior

[lethal onyx]

let's ask datamaps mc gee

[visual basin]

I think we do that for furnace fuels?

[north berry]

yeah that sounds about right

[lethal onyx]

@bold forge flammability datamap yay or nay

[tawny spire]

henryloenwind

[Reference to](#modder-1․21․1-support message) #modder-1․21․1-support [➤ ](#modder-1․21․1-support message)(side note: Looking at that code I think there's a slight issue there in how neo patches in overrides. For one, there's no way to change the flammability of other blocks that use neo's callback, e.g. one cannot make mod A make mod B's block flammable/fireproof. But the major issue I see is that the vanilla system allows to have different kinds of fires that burn different things, but neo's patches work against that. Subclassing can restore it, but at the cost of copying the complete code of the FireBlock, as those patches are in private methods and in the middle of the logic instead of in the getters vanilla has to isolate flammability determination from the logic.
I think the better implementation would have been to use this.burnOdds.getOrDefault(p_221165_.getBlock(), p_221165_.getFmamability(...)); in getBurnOdds.
)

matyrobbrt referenced · Aug 19, 2024, 12:25 PM

matyrobbrt

[Reference to](#modder-1․21․1-support message) #modder-1․21․1-support [➤ ](#modder-1․21․1-support message)yes the part that vanilla flammability is per fire block is the reason I haven't yet added any data map for it

Aug 19, 2024, 2:49 PM

[lethal onyx]

it's not per fire block tho... it always uses Blocks.FIRE even for soul fire

[bitter gorge]

wheeee rc1 time

[quartz spade]

New version detected: 26.1-rc-1.

[lethal onyx]

<@&1067092163520909374>

[plucky hollow]

Why today my internet has been not working all day

[high sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-awake-get-up-tired-tired-af-gif-18737412

[round pike]

Any link?

[lusty thistle]

I'm not ready for 26.1 porting, oof

[untold cypress]

I expected rc after live

[umbral lark]

It's happening

[round pike]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-26-1-release-candidate-1

[zenith dove]

rc, live, and then release day soon after live

[lethal onyx]

rc now and in live they tell us the release date

[untold cypress]

yeah, sure, but I didn't expect it

[plucky hollow]

I can maybe get my usual message out but someone else pick up the port

[visual basin]

I read that as "this will be the version that we ship for the eventual fall release"

[untold cypress]

plot twist, tiny takeover is 26.3

[rain herald]

rc with no date is interesting

[lethal onyx]

I can

[inner creek]

they are waiting for the Minecraft Live on saturday

the 24th release is still likely

they "always" do rc-1 on thursday and release tuesday

[zenith dove]

on the bright side, the diff is tiny

[untold cypress]

just version updates?

[inner creek]

no bugs fixed, at least in the changelog

[quartz spade]

Minecraft 26.1 Release Candidate 1

Today we are shipping the first release candidate for 26.1 and the Tiny Takeover game drop! If no critical issues are found, this will be the version that we ship for the eventual full release.Happy mining!...

Mar 19, 2026, 4:09 PM

[plucky hollow]

26.1 - Release Candidate 1

• Primer: https://github.com/ChampionAsh5357/neoforged-github/blob/update/26.1/primers/26.1/index.md
• Article: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-26-1-release-candidate-1
• Changelog: https://misode.github.io/versions/?id=26.1-rc-1
• Notion: https://apexmodder.notion.site/2524f070f88880648482e3cbdcba566a?v=2524f070f88880b29f60000c52785ecb&p=3284f070f88880c08698c15f90ae5f40&pm=c
• SnowMan: https://github.com/neoforged/Snowman/commit/4c9105d034a3bf9fdab7a8fd02b97aae3b553c56

SlicedLimes Videos:

• Main: N/A
• Pack: N/A

[inner creek]

uhhh

decompiler artifact?

[bitter gorge]

i remember seeing that in cg output, i think they have something stripped in there

oh, wait what, that seems different

[lunar kraken]

I think some inlined constant messes with that. Mojang change their constants for releases and rcs to make the game crash less on weird edge cases

[untold cypress]

who's gonna read the JVM bytecode

[plucky hollow]

this happens all the time when going to and from snapshots iirc

[visual basin]

ioException -> !ioException

wait no

[inner creek]

so these are the actual meaningful code changes
"meaningful" is a stretch

[visual basin]

dafuq

[inner creek]

the second sounds like decompiler artifact

[untold cypress]

isn't that first change in the second diff the same thing

ah no

extra try

[inner creek]

yeah

but the inner try is just a try-with-resources with no catch

so it is the same in practice

[bitter gorge]

that smells decompiler artifacty

i'll have cg stats in a few, i have recomp bytecode diffs :)

[lethal onyx]

it's still -Pupdating=true right?

[inner creek]

• version bump
• a couple decompiler artifacts
• a super call that is no longer there

the super method in pre-3 looks like this

I think this is also beta code that has been stripped

rc-1

1.21.11

[bitter gorge]

CG went from https://ss.ln-k.net/9b14b.png to https://ss.ln-k.net/f3189.png

[inner creek]

so, in summary, there are no code changes

version bump + built with development flag toggled off resulting in slightly more stripping

[bitter gorge]

RIGHT, this method has a folded constant in it

[bitter gorge]

only change here in CG is the isNonRecoverable if. Otherwise bytecode RT requires that the try-catch and try-with-resources are not merged, it changes exits slightly

[west thorn]

every release someone makes the same discovery...
There is a code change and there is a static final that changed value from true to false, what do you think happened there?

[bitter gorge]

hmm, actually we dont attempt twr merge post java11 yet, so maybe thats fine

[inner creek]

I mean we didn't think anything specific we just wanted to make sure the decompiler didn't fail in a way that could cause issues after rebuild :P

[lethal onyx]

PR is ready https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/pull/3002

no changes only patch shifts

[inner creek]

do we need this comment?

[bitter gorge]

Its probably if (CRASH_EAGERLY && (alwaysThrow || !ioException))

mm, not quite actually, unsure

[empty night]

If no critical issues are found, this will be the version that we ship for the eventual full release.
Good luck everyone that waited to port, here it is

[robust pike]

No primer changes this time around

[lethal onyx]

can we merge https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/pull/3002 since it is no functional changes?

[graceful laurel]

Done

[graceful laurel]

I would appreciate some feedback on this PR

[shy valve]

oh no. now i have to port from 1.21.11 to 26.1. how ever will i cope? /s

[steady heath]

Is it possible to add a tag for RC1?

[bright atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-mad-fish-sponge-bob-angry-gif-12369198217513035864

[graceful laurel]

Possible? Yes. Completely pointless? Also yes. RC1 is completely identical to Pre3, except for the two things that always change when release candidates start

[steady heath]

oh

[north berry]

With appendHoverText being deprecated, what is the intended way to add tooltips now? I see that most of it is handled on a per-data component basis in ItemStack#addDetailsToTooltip, but we don't have an event for that yet? (Unless that's in another place)

[graceful laurel]

Keep using appendHoverText(). Making the mess that is vanilla's component tooltip handling work for mods is rather involved

[north berry]

so ignore the deprecation for now, got it

[graceful laurel]

If you're curious, here's a convo about that whole topic including a potential but complicated solution: #neoforge-github message

[sick crystal]

Everything looks sound to me

[next harness]

rc?

[empty night]

Has anyone spot checked all the datapack hooks?

Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "net.minecraft.server.packs.repository.Pack.streamSelfAndChildren()" because "pack" is null

    at TRANSFORMER/[email protected]/net.minecraft.util.thread.BlockableEventLoop.pollTask(BlockableEventLoop.java:137) ~[minecraft-patched-26.1.0.0-alpha.0+rc-1.20260319.191853.jar:?] {neoforge:access_transformer}
    at TRANSFORMER/[email protected]/net.minecraft.util.thread.BlockableEventLoop.managedBlock(BlockableEventLoop.java:147) ~[minecraft-patched-26.1.0.0-alpha.0+rc-1.20260319.191853.jar:?] {neoforge:access_transformer}
    at TRANSFORMER/[email protected]/net.minecraft.client.gui.screens.worldselection.CreateWorldScreen.openCreateWorldScreen(CreateWorldScreen.java:191) ~[minecraft-patched-26.1.0.0-alpha.0+rc-1.20260319.191853.jar:?] {}
    at TRANSFORMER/[email protected]/net.minecraft.client.gui.screens.worldselection.CreateWorldScreen.openFresh(CreateWorldScreen.java:132) ~[minecraft-patched-26.1.0.0-alpha.0+rc-1.20260319.191853.jar:?] {}
    at TRANSFORMER/[email protected]/net.minecraft.client.gui.screens.worldselection.CreateWorldScreen.openFresh(CreateWorldScreen.java:116) ~[minecraft-patched-26.1.0.0-alpha.0+rc-1.20260319.191853.jar:?] {}
    at TRANSFORMER/[email protected]/net.minecraft.client.gui.screens.worldselection.WorldSelectionList.handleNewLevels(WorldSelectionList.java:177) ~[minecraft-patched-26.1.0.0-alpha.0+rc-1.20260319.191853.jar:?] {neoforge:access_transformer}

Not sure if our bug or not, happened when my datagen failed and tried to create a new test world

[plucky hollow]

@lethal onyx i see you requested my review on cauldron interactions pr
i do want to pull it into mod dev first but as mentioned yesterday my internet is not happy rn
engineer should be coming around today to take a look at it tho so hopefully it gets fixed

[quartz spade]

New version detected: 26.1-rc-2.

[empty night]

oh no

<@&1067092163520909374> RC2 incoming with a GUI bugfix
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-26-1-release-candidate-2

[plucky hollow]

I’m making food

[next harness]

why no

[lethal onyx]

I'm not home

[plucky hollow]

But my internet is fixed so il get the usual message out as soon as I can

[gray frigate]

too bad, rc time

[empty night]

Because I just finished my rc1 port ~7 hours ago lol

[north berry]

singular bugfix

[untold oyster]

what in the name of Hylia--

ah, a smol bugfix

(and a teensy refactor alongside it)

[quartz spade]

26.1 Release Candidate 2

Friday Surprise! Today we are shipping the second release candidate for 26.1 and the Tiny Takeover game drop to address an important internationalization issue. If no other critical issues are found, this will be the version that we ship for the eventual f...

Mar 20, 2026, 1:59 PM

[empty night]

I don't know why we have this bot but I'm gonna blame maty just because

[plucky hollow]

26.1 - Release Candidate 2

• Primer: https://github.com/ChampionAsh5357/neoforged-github/blob/update/26.1/primers/26.1/index.md
• Article: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-26-1-release-candidate-2
• Changelog: https://misode.github.io/versions/?id=26.1-rc-2
• Notion: https://apexmodder.notion.site/2524f070f88880648482e3cbdcba566a?v=2524f070f88880b29f60000c52785ecb&p=3294f070f88880eebc16e128599a2dd3&pm=c
• SnowMan: https://github.com/neoforged/Snowman/commit/8f42f359a7c9ce8778cf17f3794848dc699a97d7

SlicedLimes Videos:

• Main: N/A
• Pack: N/A

||<@&1067092163520909374>||

oh whoops i forgor to remove thge ping

[maiden spade]

It's fine, RC2 so two pings

[untold oyster]

iirc, its the same workflow but it checks two sources: the version manifest, and the launcher changelog manifest

evidently, one of em is updated faster than the other

[plucky hollow]

https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/pull/3004

[empty night]

three thousand four

[compact swan]

I mean it's 5 major versions, of course it's a difficult port /j

[lusty thistle]

25 major versions if you just port Minecraft and ignore NeoForge

[empty night]

That isn't how the version history works, 26 is a year not a major

[lucid tree]

Would be 22 major versions

[robust pike]

Your one line primer: https://github.com/neoforged/.github/pull/39/changes/77d0ab9c0e18de4c573019398749d609b8fb348c

(well, its actually adding three and removing one, but same thing)

[graceful laurel]

If nobody has any further comments on this, then I'll merge the PR tomorrow

[graceful laurel]

And another one: https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/pull/3005

[jagged ridge]

Hmm, I have two comments:

• This API feels very low-level compared to our other model-related APIs; in particular, it's not clear just from the docs if I should be setting entries in the list, appending to the list, etc
• If the extension is always called with an initially empty list, do we even need the boolean return value or can we just check if the list is non-empty after the call?

[graceful laurel]

• The parameter doc does say that values need to be appended
• That's a fair point, I'll change that

[graceful laurel]

I've clarified the doc a bit. Does that make more sense or is it even more confusing now? 😅

[jagged ridge]

Yes, much better

I subconsciously skimmed the param doc the first time

[plucky hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is5IswM87EQ

so whats everyones guesses for if they will announce the drop date and if so when?

[untold oyster]

"we're releasing it this hour!"

[plucky hollow]

[steady heath]

March 24

[plucky hollow]

was not expecting the date to be so early

in the stream

[untold oyster]

ring a ding ding
it's a Tuesday

aight, no bets

[hazy wind]

someone make a recap after it is done

and what farm Agnes has gone to this time

[plucky hollow]

<@&1067092163520909374> we have a date March 24th
if you have not started porting to 26.1 now this is your final chance to start porting and maybe get ahead of the curve
theres quite a few changes that can be a pain to update to depending on what your mod does

can find the WIP primer here
-# which unless anything major happens will be the final version of the primer

[hazy wind]

is this actually where Agnus went to?

[wintry flower]

I'll resume work on the blog post either tonight or tomorrow 🙂

[steady heath]

No, it's the sound designers

[raven wharf]

You see I solved that problem by not updating my mod since 1.20.2, (Actually I am just lazy and every time I actually want to work on my mod, I end up going back to doing other stuff before releasing an update, that 1.20.2 update was released in March 2025 as well... well after that version released)

[steady heath]

New biome in 26.2

[final pollen]

god this is so underwhelming

aand we got mc dungeons 2

[steady heath]

hahahah

[final pollen]

we knew this was in dev for a year now

with how they introduced this drop, i assumed they were going to add something great mechanically

[craggy river]

Was your assumption fulfilled?

[final pollen]

have you seen the live?

[craggy river]

Yes. I was very underwhelmed.

[final pollen]

yes, as was i

the sulfur cube is not a bad addition

it's not mechanically shallow

but it's just

nothing

technical minecraft will benefit from it, sure

[craggy river]

Exactly.

[final pollen]

fun minigames too

[craggy river]

I don't really see myself using it for much, though.

[final pollen]

but SPS, which is the game's worst facet, will not see much of an improvement

[craggy river]

I mean... maybe my family server could set up some sort of game? There's only three of us, though... so, not really too useful.

[final pollen]

(single-player survival)

[craggy river]

Exactly. I'd love more singleplayer survival features.

[final pollen]

i'll be brainstorming EoMC features that use cinnabar and sulfur, because this is so ass

[craggy river]

Mercury as a liquid.

[final pollen]

at least the sulfur gas particles are a nice base for my cauldron puff particle, i'll just be stealing those

[craggy river]

(Cinnabar is an ore of mercury)

[final pollen]

that'd be cool but it needs a proper use

[craggy river]

This probably isn't the channel to brainstorm for that, though, unfortunately.

[final pollen]

don't wanna do another sulfur cube

[final pollen]

yes

good god

[runic anchor]

shush

free update is free

[steady heath]

Vulkan x Minecraft in 2 weeks

[lyric bobcat]

it would be funny if they implemented vulkan with the april 1st shapshot

[zenith dove]

would be a good time to test it tbh

[hazy wind]

AFAIk, not all of the game will be fully vulkan
they will do it in parts

[plucky hollow]

yeah afaik they are focusing on getting it functional
before optimizing it, so i wouldnt even expect any performance improvements once vulkan initially drops

[steady heath]

I wonder which extensions will be used...

[old wind]

.jar /s

[graceful laurel]

That's not how transitioning from one graphics API to another works. The entire game will use Vulkan, it just won't take advantage of all of the API's capabilities

[plucky hollow]

i could piecemeal the api to us so to speak
but if that was to happen the game would still run on lwjgl
just the vulkan backend would exist and be unused

that would at least allow shader mods to migrate over with as the api changes
but i dont see them doing that

[graceful laurel]

LWJGL or not has nothing to do with switching to Vulkan

[plucky hollow]

more than likely they will merge in the vulkan branch once its ready

[plucky hollow]

ah yeah, but what i was trying to say is correct tho right
they could drop unused parts but i doubt that would happen

[graceful laurel]

There will, as far as I understand it, be both backends for a while and some way for the player to switch between them. The game will at all times run fully on a single backend though, not a weird mix

[plucky hollow]

i could imagine having the game run on some crazy hybrid opengl-vulkan backend would throw so many if nto all the rendering/shader mods out the window

[steady heath]

I wonder if the Minecraft Java videos on Minecraft Live use the Vulkan backend, because there are rendering bugs in the video

[robust pike]

@zenith dove Mind rebasing your PR on the 26.1 update branch? Thanks!

[zenith dove]

will do!

[old pier]

I don’t know if it’s gonna get common use, but I get a feeling that there’s something to be done with a mob that you can split like a slime, that then regrows into its bigger size.

[robust pike]

?

[zenith dove]

i think i'd have to open a new PR for that - maintainers should be able to switch the target branch, i don't think there'd be any conflicts at this point

[agile hull]

GitHub just hides the dropdown

[robust pike]

Figured it out

[agile hull]

It's only available in one specific page of the pr view

Jank ai generated code and all

[zenith dove]

i think it's just on the PR's homepage? i don't have any PRs targeting me at the moment to check it on

[robust pike]

Got some broken links

[zenith dove]

will fix

[gray frigate]

this is correct

[toxic yoke]

this will be really interesting

it won't use glsl anymore right?

[inner creek]

what else would it use?

I presume it will still use glsl
directly for opengl, and via a spir-v compiler for vulkan

[plucky hollow]

yeah glsl isnt bound to opengl its just the shader language it uses

[toxic yoke]

oh that's interesting

[gray frigate]

For at least while both GL and VK are supported, the B3D api will take in GLSL

The Vulkan backend will handle the differences

Once Vulkan only, this may change, it may not

[sleek perch]

How do I lobby for HLSL?

[gray frigate]

You don't

However, once VK only, the API could take SPIR-V instead, which you can compile HLSL to

yea technically opengl can take SPIR-V too, I'm ignoring that

[north berry]

I mean, you can also compile GLSL to SPIR-V

which I'm gonna assume is what's gonna happen

an interesting question will be once the switch to Vulkan-only happens, whether the shaders will continue to be shipped in GLSL or if there will be a change to precompiled SPIR-V

[steady heath]

[Render thread/WARN] [mojang/GlProgram]: neoforge:pipeline/item_translucent_unlit shader program does not use sampler Sampler2 defined in the pipeline. This might be a bug.``` ![thonk](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/932605815221788672.webp?size=128 "thonk")

[graceful laurel]

You can ignore that

[wintry flower]

there was no release for rc2, right?

[inner creek]

there's no release for rc1/rc2 of neo itself yet

rc1 didn't matter because it was identical to pre3

you can use the PR build though

[wintry flower]

nah I'll just make a release

it's unfortunate that we have so few people with bandwidth to help; I see many rejects and issues 😄

[graceful laurel]

The only rejects that should still be relevant are the fluid-related ones. Everything else should be done, it's just not cleaned up yet

[wintry flower]

it's a shame that we will have to move back to the main branch where doing anything requires approvals 😄

I hope that it won't create too much friction

[graceful laurel]

As for making an RC2 release: I would ideally like to get https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/pull/3005 in but I'm waiting for pup to have time to respond, I want to make sure I understood her question correctly and not just blindly merge it without

[wintry flower]

ah ok; I almost made it heh 😄

[graceful laurel]

In terms of issues with the port, the worst known one at the moment is this: https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/issues/3008. Seems to be exclusive to Linux and Nvidia and potentially Wayland specifically. The segfault (which is not visible in the log linked in the issue) is completely unhelpful and the stacktrace on the Java side is useless as well

[gray frigate]

Nvidia exclusive?

AMD doesn't repro?

[graceful laurel]

As far as I can tell it doesn't happen on AMD, though the only one who I know tried reproducing it on AMD is embeddedt

Here's where they tried: #1445764870564745228 message

[untold cypress]

let's try

[inner creek]

uh the log in that issue report says

Kernel driver in use: amdgpu

[graceful laurel]

It lists both

[gray frigate]

Amd iGPU

[inner creek]

wait yes nevermind

[gray frigate]

Yea, the crash from apex is in libegl_nvidia, so, Nvidia specific

[untold cypress]

oh, the launcher layout has changed again

[gray frigate]

I'll see if I can repro it tomorrow (Nvidia/Wayland)

[inner creek]

I have a laptop with nvidia gpu (Bazzite KDE, so wayland), if anything needs testing there

[untold cypress]

yeah, works fine on amd/arch/wayland

[graceful laurel]

Wouldn't hurt to have another datapoint, and maybe we can get a useful stacktrace out of one test subject

Testing the same scenario with the RC2 PR build would also be interesting as that includes the FML update with the LWJGL bump, though I doubt that would change anything

[inner creek]

linking to 26.1 PR for easy finding it from my laptop: https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/pull/2879

hm

pr2879.net.neoforged.neoforge 26.1.0.0-alpha.0 rc-2.20260321.154221 is unavailable.

The package version you're trying to access has either been deleted or never been published.

[graceful laurel]

The generated artifacts link is wrong (it doesn't url-encode the +), you need to go through "View all package versions"

[inner creek]

I don't see an installer jar listed in the assets

[graceful laurel]

There's a link to the installer at the bottom of the bot comment

[inner creek]

might not matter, though. the launcher isn't loading

oh!

okay the flatpak worked

(I have never run mc on the linux install in my laptop so it's downloading assets ... slowly...)

do we not produce a debug.log file?

pre-3 worked also

so I was trying to figure out if it launched with x11 or wayland

[graceful laurel]

The debug log still exists. You can also see X11/Wayland in the crash report

[inner creek]

no crashing, it works fine

both pre3 and rc2

[graceful laurel]

Yes, what I mean is that you can force a crash to find out whether X11 or Wayland is in use

[inner creek]

what was the key for that

[graceful laurel]

F3+C for ten seconds, even works from main menu

[tawny spire]

Created Gist at the request of @sleek perch: https://gist.github.com/NeoCamelot/3127b38eafb2430f740976d66b77a859

[graceful laurel]

It's using the wrong one: GFLW Platform: x11

[inner creek]

x11

yeah

no idea how to make it run with wayland

the flatpak for the vanilla launcher is set up to run on x11

[sleek perch]

Uninstall X

[inner creek]

I wasn't able to run the launcher outside the flatpak

oh well gotta be heading to bed

[gray frigate]

theres a debug thing for it

or, well, that applies to vanilla, idk how that applies to ELS

[graceful laurel]

It doesn't apply to ELS but ELS also doesn't set the window hint for preferring X11 when both are supported

[empty night]

Oh huh. You can add me as a datapoint for the linux bug, I've been running fine for quite a while (Ryzen, iGPU)

[zenith dove]

another nvidia/wayland crash for the pile, though it's entirely inconsistent
https://mclo.gs/2a21BBh

[alpine minnow]

pssst I don’t think this is the right channel for mod support for 26.1

[empty night]

1. please don't backseat mod
2. this was part of a greater discussion around Neo and the graphics issues, not a specific mod support question

[alpine minnow]

My b

[mental thorn]

there is a debug flag named PREFER_WAYLAND

[lethal onyx]

rc-3 today?

[inner creek]

possibly, since there was a fix #mojira message

[plucky hollow]

im not expecting a RC this close to release

like it drops tomorrow, just merge that into the release

[empty night]

Thursday: 26.1.1 drops

[gray frigate]

i did repro the ELS crash w/ wayland, but interestingly i also got a crash on shutdown when using xwayland, does anyone else repro the shutdown crash?
note: the crash is a sigbus in libnvidia-glcore.so

[inner creek]

it didn't crash on shutdown for me

[zenith dove]

i've personally only repro'd a crash on startup

[gray frigate]

is your session x11 or xwayland?

[inner creek]

I can try again when I get home

[zenith dove]

wayland, using idea installed from their website

[gray frigate]

wack

[inner creek]

wayland, here, with the launcher flatpak

[gray frigate]

i wonder if its the specific drivers i have installed causing this one then

[inner creek]

I have whatever the Bazzite variant with KDE desktop + nvidia has

[gray frigate]

im using Ubuntu 24.04

w/ gnome

[zenith dove]

same

nvidia-driver-570

[quartz spade]

New version detected: 26.1-rc-3.

[gray frigate]

i also have driver 570

[quartz spade]

Minecraft 26.1 Release Candidate 3

Today we are shipping Release Candidate 3 for 26.1, addressing a bug in the Ender Dragon fight and fixing a crash.Happy mining!Fixed bugs in 26.1 Release Candidate 3MC-306989 The ender dragon initiates its death animation as soon as it dies, no matter how ...

Mar 23, 2026, 1:52 PM

[gray frigate]

theres yourr answer

[inner creek]

the pattern holds

[visual basin]

it has been 0 days since a bug in the ender dragon fight needed to be hotfixed

[plucky hollow]

damn it, guess i was wrong

[untold oyster]

oh! that sounds like what I've been experiencing in my dev end, though I'm not sure if MC is running on XWayland

[plucky hollow]

26.1 - Release Candidate 3

• Primer: https://github.com/ChampionAsh5357/neoforged-github/blob/update/26.1/primers/26.1/index.md
• Article: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-26-1-release-candidate-3
• Changelog: https://misode.github.io/versions/?id=26.1-rc-3
• Notion: https://apexmodder.notion.site/2524f070f88880648482e3cbdcba566a?v=2524f070f88880b29f60000c52785ecb&p=32c4f070f88880dd9af7c4dc949c5501&pm=c
• SnowMan: https://github.com/neoforged/Snowman/commit/fd82ed7d3efdc1190d14b1785a901ca7c1af4f48

SlicedLimes Videos:

• Main: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amh7jYPWGFw
• Pack: N/A

||<@&1067092163520909374>||

[untold oyster]

I am running Wayland though

[next harness]

[bitter gorge]

I'm running wayland kde + nvidia id you need another datapoint

[lethal onyx]

called it

[plucky hollow]

snowman being slow to pickup the job: https://github.com/neoforged/Snowman/actions/runs/23441183982/job/68193986415
even tried retriggering it

[gray frigate]

Xwayland is the best x11 emulator since x11

If you are using Wayland, and the app is using x11, that's xwayland

[untold oyster]

currently fixing it, the runner isn't running at the moment

[plucky hollow]

https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/pull/2879 updated to RC3

[mental thorn]

I tried running Minecraft using a nvidia GPU through WSL (although it doesn't allow for using a linux nvidia GPU driver instead seemingly sending operations to the windows driver) and didn't have issues with starting it up through the vanilla launcher even when trying to get the early display window to use wayland

[untold oyster]

runner's fixed, job is now running

I really should look into offloading that into a free runner + S3 cache, as suggested by multiple people before

but the time

(also wondering where I'd put that cache )

[paper cedar]

I doubt WSL would use the offending NVidia GL linux driver, i don't know at which level it forwards

[bitter gorge]

Use the minio on the backup box perhaps, otherwise, can host

[paper cedar]

It's possible we're doing something out of spec that usually causes no issues but causes crashes in NV, or it's just a quirk we'll have to workaround

[untold oyster]

oh right, that reminds me, I also need to look into replacing MinIO on the backup box

or looking at that OSS fork

[plucky hollow]

https://github.com/neoforged/Snowman/commit/fd82ed7d3efdc1190d14b1785a901ca7c1af4f48

[empty night]

11/10 code fix

They snuck in a tiny update to window render state size as well. Tiny code update for tiny takeover.

[plucky hollow]

26.1.0.0-alpha.0+rc-3.20260323.142228

[robust pike]

No primer stuff today

[untold oyster]

for reference, the Neo window has the Wayland logo on it, and when I go to quit,

[22:52:52] [Render thread/INFO] [minecraft/Minecraft]: Stopping!
#
# A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#
#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x00007f7254be160e, pid=552461, tid=552518
#
# JRE version: OpenJDK Runtime Environment Temurin-25.0.1+8 (25.0.1+8) (build 25.0.1+8-LTS)
# Java VM: OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM Temurin-25.0.1+8 (25.0.1+8-LTS, mixed mode, sharing, tiered, compressed oops, compressed class ptrs, g1 gc, linux-amd64)
# Problematic frame:
# C  [libEGL_nvidia.so.0+0xb660e]
#
# Core dump will be written. Default location: Core dumps may be processed with "/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-coredump %P %u %g %s %t %c %h %d %F" (or dumping to /home/sciwhiz12/dev/personal/VoxelTools/run/client/core.552461)
#
# An error report file with more information is saved as:
# /home/sciwhiz12/dev/personal/VoxelTools/run/client/hs_err_pid552461.log
#
# If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
#   https://github.com/adoptium/adoptium-support/issues
#

if that helps in some way

different DLL though, I get libEGL_nvidia.so

[gray frigate]

yes, i reproed this

[untold oyster]

hmmm. I haven't tested vanilla yet

[gray frigate]

i also got a crash on shutdown using xwayland/x11

[untold oyster]

neat

well, not neat, but you know what I mean

[zenith dove]

i've so far only seen it on neo - fabric testing has been fine despite me launching it more often

[untold oyster]

hmmmmm

[plucky hollow]

if this is related to the ELS crash ive been having
yeah vanilla is fine its purely ELS crashing (for me)
disable ELS neo loads fine

[inner creek]

I'm home now, is there some way to force wayland with neo?

[untold oyster]

different from what I'm experiencing then; I can load Neo fine up to the main menu, but quitting from there causes the crash

[plucky hollow]

yeah my crash is instant, when ELS is enabled
without ELS everything is fine

its also a segfault too so

[inner creek]

this launcher is ancient I just noticed

[graceful laurel]

Does the segfault have a stacktrace? Is there a Java stacktrace as well and if yes, what does it look like?

[untold oyster]

I posted above in reply to Rogue what shows up in my debug console after I quit

[zenith dove]

is it consistent for you? i've only seen it like once

[graceful laurel]

The segfault should produce a hs_err_pid log with a bit more info, including a stacktrace if we're lucky.

[plucky hollow]

yep, every time i try launch with ELS enabled
i get the same crash and segfault error

[untold oyster]

lemme yeet it here

I don't think there's any tokens to be concerned about

[graceful laurel]

Not in dev, no

[graceful laurel]

No stacktrace either, unfortunate

[round spear]

Given I vaguely recall things being manually forwarded from 1.21.11 to the 26.1 branch, has anyone done a look to make sure that all features/fixes that have been added to 1.21.11 since the 26.1 branch has started have been forwarded? Or is there some number of commits that we still need to move?

[inner creek]

I managed to run mc under wayland (via an Ubuntu distrobox), and it crashed on quit

with the iGPU

I'm confused, though. no debug.log files

wait, it was definitely running on the igpu... why did it crash with libegl_nvidia...

🤷‍♂️ yeh it crashes on quit with the nvidia lib even if it runs on igpu

[graceful laurel]

@round spear do you mind taking another look at https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/pull/3005?

[round spear]

yeah that answers my question

wasn't sure how long the cache persisted for, but seems like it isn't long so isn't a problem

[paper cedar]

I don't think it matters which GPU ot runs on this is more likely a bug in the OpenGL clientside dll no?

"dll" used in lieu of .so here

[plucky hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amh7jYPWGFw

[topaz bridge]

FYI, the version IDs have changed now 26.1-rc3 -> 26.1-rc-3, so you should update the changelog links to my site

[toxic yoke]

wait wsl can do that ?

[plucky hollow]

is this for all versions or just 26.1+? and would this be for rc only?

[topaz bridge]

Yes for all versions since 26.1. For -snapshot-, -pre- and -rc-

[plucky hollow]

ah ok good to know, il have to update the pinned messages for the affected versions at some point then
which looks to be all the pre releases and rcs
https://github.com/ApexModder/Snapshot-Doc-Generator/pull/2/changes

been meaning to make those urls smarter in my app at some point
cause they can easily be generated on the fly from the full long version id

[zenith dove]

yes, gui apps work through WSL
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/tutorials/gui-apps

[wintry flower]

@graceful laurel https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/commit/b93282b532b4093a538b7156a52679e4e340d570 is already correct in 26.1, right?

[toxic yoke]

yeah i have that

just the basic stuff

[graceful laurel]

Yes

[wintry flower]

ok yeah indeed

found the first commit that was not cherry-picked

[inner creek]

is it over?

[plucky hollow]

looks to be

bot clearly wanted to re-read every version rdy for tiny take over tomorrow

[inner creek]

did the bot glitch, or did mojang push a new version manifest?

[bold forge]

jeez

also that's not based on the version manifest

it's based on the launcher update notes endpoint

[plucky hollow]

i dont think you got them all i still see 1.13-1.20 pre1

[bold forge]

refreshyour client

they're all gone

[plucky hollow]

anywhos do we know what the articles url format will be tomorrow
i believe main releases used to have -java-edition- in the url
unsure if that changed with the version format changes
if i have it right it should be https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-java-edition-26-1

prepping tomorrows pin message
https://github.com/ApexModder/Snapshot-Doc-Generator/pull/3

[north berry]

Question, can we add a toTemplate() method on DeferredItem because it's annoying me and I think I may not be alone with that sentiment

[plucky hollow]

i mean the ctor overloads should allow you to pass the deferred item to item stack template

new ItemStackTemplate(deferredItem)

whats annoying about that?

[north berry]

it's just that ModItems.MY_ITEM.toTemplate() is a bit more convenient than new ItemStackTemplate(ModItems.MY_ITEM)

same reason we have DeferredItem#toStack(), for example

[plucky hollow]

ehh i dont rly see it being convenient
and feels like "feature creep" type thing but for helper/utils

and its no less readable or convenient than if you were to be using vanilla items
new ItemStackTemplate(Items.DIAMOND)
new ItemStackTemplate(MyModItems.RUBY)

[night kiln]

I would say prefer the constructor. Otherwise we have to add one both to the block and item variant

[plucky hollow]

the only thing i will admit is inconvenient about the ctors is they want Holder<Item> so wont accept holders of different kinds (DeferredBlock)

and theres not rly much we can do about this nor should we rly
track your registered BlockItem holders and pass those

[night kiln]

We can patch the Holder<Item> ctor to Holder<T extends ItemLike

it gets erased to Holder regardless

[plucky hollow]

we shouldnt be relying on ItemLike
mojang has stated they dont like it since it exposes the raw registry value
and will at some point remove it

[night kiln]

What does that mean

[plucky hollow]

what im referring to: #1445764870564745228 message

basicly they dont like that it exposes the raw Item value

you should be handling Holders not raw values

[north berry]

fair enough

[bitter gorge]

I don't think so, none of my stuff triggered, which uses the hash of the version list manifest as a marker.

[wintry flower]

@graceful laurel needs porting to 26.1, right? https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/commit/656a45bac15677767102426863e371f12717a9dd

hmm doesn't look trivial

[wintry flower]

hehe I think I got it

[final pollen]

Any ETA on neo 26.1

?

[inner creek]

vanilla 26.1 isn't even out

[plucky hollow]

sometime today, i dont think we got a release time only date

[final pollen]

I see

[plucky hollow]

oh neo 26.1

yeah

[inner creek]

think vanilla + 2-3 hours

[final pollen]

Delay between vanilla and neo usually?

Alright thanks

[plucky hollow]

yeah im expecting that myself, ~normal snapshot time

[final pollen]

Did someone say vanilla+

[inner creek]

missed a space

[final pollen]

Quark is a mod by Vazkii

[plucky hollow]

but unless something major comes with the release i couldnt imagine neo taking too long update
its already running on RC3 which dropped yesterday
https://github.com/neoforged/NeoForge/pull/2879

[final pollen]

What about parchment?

[plucky hollow]

not needed anymore due to unobf sources

mojang ships their param and local var names now
which is mostly what parchmenet was used for

[runic anchor]

Now

We release the future

[final pollen]

Ooh right, neato

Will my sources retroactively update?

Like

[plucky hollow]

had me for a moment there thinking 26.1 dropped just now

[final pollen]

Blaze.java wasn't touched in 26.1 right

Will I still get its variable names?

[visual basin]

same thing that happens whenever you update the mc version in your workspace, the toolchain genie decompiles mc again and gives you a new set of sources

[final pollen]

I see

Will MDG need an update?

[inner creek]

you just update the neo version, (and gradle wrapper and gradle version if coming from 1.21.11 or older), and reload the gradle project

mdg is already updated if you are on latest

2.0.140

[final pollen]

Yeah I'm on 21.10

[final pollen]

Huh, I have 141

[inner creek]

140+

140 is what I have been using for the snapshots

[plucky hollow]

131+ i think is what should be running but yeah just run latest mdg

[hazy wind]

wait, do you have a time machine

[plucky hollow]

- 2.0.131 Support for 26.1 / unobfuscated Minecraft (#298)

also dont forget to update your gradle wrapper to 9.4+ (iirc)
since that supports java 25 which 26.1 minecraft requires now

https://pr-99.neoforged-website-previews.pages.dev/news/26.1release/
preview for the 26.1 blog post

which should contain all this info iirc

[inner creek]

I use gradle 8.14.4

had some issues with gradle 9 so I just went with latest gradle 8.x

[plucky hollow]

weird ive seen so many people (including myself) fail to import anything unless they update gradle

due to java 25 sdks

[inner creek]

ugh I hate that discord ignores autoplay choices when you send a message and loops gifs forever without any ability to stop them

[plucky hollow]

mean while theres me with a plugin that ensures everything continues to animate even when window is not focused
like seeing the animated server icons, why that is only on hover confuses me
you like never see them animate cause of it

[lethal onyx]

release now or in 1h?

[robust pike]

If people want to approve and merge the primer now, feel free

[inner creek]

likely 1h, maybe 2

[toxic yoke]

oh god no

please don't release this monstrosity 😭

but it's also the perfect time to do an IP scan and find all streamer's unwhitelisted servers 🤣

[wintry flower]

Better use MDG 141, that will also remove the unknown version capabilities warning

[visual basin]

I just use version '2.0.+' so I'm always on latest

[inner creek]

hm no release yet...

[untold cypress]

release machine broke

[plucky hollow]

im guess release ~45mins or so

[lethal onyx]

T-20min

[lucid tree]

Okay

[inner creek]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-husky-soon-gif-7801078

[toxic yoke]

please don't release

@ monjangstas don't release

[tiny pumice]

Please release, I'm bored 🙂

[zenith dove]

i have things to upload please release

[runic anchor]

Nope. Too busy refactoring rendering

Mojang needs to make sure everyone’s work is borked

[plucky hollow]

[arctic sierra]

https://youtu.be/vw3ORodz8rk?si=VAfuVfw3mtFKoqGi

[toxic yoke]

[sharp ermine]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-java-edition-26-1

[plucky hollow]

26.1 - Tiny Takeover

• Primer: https://github.com/ChampionAsh5357/neoforged-github/blob/update/26.1/primers/26.1/index.md
• Article: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-java-edition-26-1
• Changelog: https://misode.github.io/versions/?id=26.1
• Notion: https://apexmodder.notion.site/2524f070f88880648482e3cbdcba566a?v=2524f070f88880b29f60000c52785ecb&p=32c4f070f888807fa951d2171663cec5&pm=c
• SnowMan: https://github.com/neoforged/Snowman/commit/a60d071c7ddc89b3787a5a261f53aa02f12974c4

SlicedLimes Videos:

• Main: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wqIYgk-uD0
• Data Pack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZxN8Snfig
• Resource Pack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM-o2E5DhvA

||<@&1067092163520909374>||

[toxic yoke]

[lethal onyx]

I have something you could do...

[round pike]

Now to wait for snapshots again 🤣

[quartz spade]

New version detected: 26.1.

[odd vortex]

holy shit

[sick crystal]

ITS TIME!

[visual basin]

at least I can start ignoring snapshots until next year now

[toxic yoke]

cricket noooooooo

[lethal onyx]

[heavy kite]

bolb revenge

[maiden spade]

Modders, brace yourselves for the "26.1 update" spam in Curseforge comments

[zenith dove]

turned those off years ago

[runic anchor]

26.2 update when

[sharp ermine]

guys why isnt neoforge updated to 26.1 yet 🥺

[fast light]

27.1 when

[cursive lily]

Dude, the correct title of the drop is in the video above your message

[sharp ermine]

tiny take over

[plucky hollow]

https://github.com/neoforged/Snowman/commit/a60d071c7ddc89b3787a5a261f53aa02f12974c4

[runic anchor]

Drop

[high sonnet]

Tiny took over

[visual basin]

tiny turnovers

[lethal onyx]

I had one on discord 16h ago

[plucky hollow]

i premade the mssage last night and jsu tcopy pasted it here but thanks

[cursive lily]

:D Thank you for correcting it <3

[heavy kite]

Apple turnovers??

[tiny pumice]

Inb4 it's Patchouli

[runic anchor]

@hasty breach Mojang dropped

[sharp ermine]

where #26.2 Snapshots

[lethal onyx]

you're correct (in world rendering should work now)

[toxic yoke]

me when botania is going to take 10x longer to port

[heavy kite]

I shall call this update "apple turnover" from now on

I find that suitably funny

[toxic yoke]

@ shedaniel why is arch not on 26.1 ???

🤓

[untold cypress]

has neo decided on a versioning format?

[toxic yoke]

@plucky hollow can i dm you

[tiny pumice]

Time to see which config lib for Fabric will be out earlier than Cloth Config

Configs on fabric hold me back

[zenith dove]

YACL was on snapshots

[plucky hollow]

why?

[zenith dove]

also i just use kaleido config which isn't minecraft-specific and lets me port wherever

[toxic yoke]

i need the snowman output zip

[quartz spade]

Minecraft 26.1

Ready or not, here comes the Tiny Takeover drop! New versions of baby mobs have stormed Minecraft, causing cuteness overload across biomes and builds. Listen out for heart-melting sounds, craft name tags for your pets, and keep babies forever young with th...

Mar 24, 2026, 4:01 PM

[tiny pumice]

I swear... I searched "config" and marked 26.1-pre-1 and NOTHINg showed up config related

Whoops, sorry for the ping

[plucky hollow]

https://mcsrc.dev/

[toxic yoke]

the whole jar ?

[plucky hollow]

that site does the same job as snowman

[still elbow]

it's only fabric

[toxic yoke]

it doesn't give me an output zip

just click download on github 🙏 😭

[tiny pumice]

Well I only need it on fabric. It's for my multiloader project and the other side is Neo for which I just use it's toml config system

[inner creek]

any changes vs rc3?

[plucky hollow]

Well what timing just had a blackout on my street

[lethal onyx]

nope

[sick crystal]

Not ones that really matter
https://i.imgur.com/1X4HgD7.png
https://i.imgur.com/PSkYSWn.png

[lethal onyx]

we have neoform, let's get this released

[inner creek]

alright then, I'll finish doing some work things while waiting for 26.1.0.0-beta

[lusty thistle]

And I'm waiting for 26.1.0.0-beta

[inner creek]

oop

typo

[lusty thistle]

Yes, 0 is directly next to 1

ok maybe on numpad

[plucky hollow]

is on a numpad

its right under 1

[inner creek]

it was more of a brain-typo

than a finger-typo

[odd vortex]

who uses numpad???

[plucky hollow]

me

[lusty thistle]

I do

[inner creek]

some people do, but not me

[plucky hollow]

so much easier to type numbers on a numpad

[inner creek]

I just thought the wrong number

[plucky hollow]

then numbar above letters i use mostly for gaming

[inner creek]

I'm left-handed and the numpad is on the right

[plucky hollow]

selecting slots in mc

but typing numbers i use the pad

[lusty thistle]

22.0.0-beta

[still elbow]

rn i'm waiting for neoforge to update and for cf to add 26.1

then i'll publish an update for my mod

[inner creek]

yeah I have Sewing Kit, Tool Belt, Packing Tape, and Json Things ported to pre-3 and ready to get bumped to the final release

the rest I'll do as I get the chance

[still elbow]

i have moderner beta and picture mode already ported to 26.1 prereleases

[untold cypress]

I specifically bought a laptop with a numpad

[inner creek]

my old laptop was full keyboard
my current one is tenkeyless

(weird name to refer to a grid of 4x5 on which 17 keys are placed, 3 of them double-sized)

[odd vortex]

my pc keyboard has a numpad too but i never actually used it 🙃

[plucky hollow]

must be new here, the article and other related info is pinned

[dreamy viper]

XD

[hazy wind]

Hi

[toxic yoke]

soo does anyone have the snowblower output

[inner creek]

26.1 final == 26.1-rc-3

[graceful laurel]

What do you even need that for?
(Not that anyone can legally send it to you)

[toxic yoke]

i tend to run grep a lot

as if you're getting sued over it

[dreamy viper]

hello

is there a neoforge build out yet

[inner creek]

no

[dreamy viper]

ok

[inner creek]

you will want to keep track of #builds

[marsh mason]

what's going on with the build being cancelled lol

[inner creek]

currently we are trying to fix the version number generaation

it was the wrong version!

[dreamy viper]

ah

[marsh mason]

ahhh alright

[inner creek]

it's meant to be 26.1.0.0-beta

[marsh mason]

and it's trying 26.1.0-beta

[inner creek]

26.1 + .0 because no hotfixes + .0 neoforge build

[marsh mason]

all good

[graceful laurel]

You can do that on the Neo-patched JAR as well once the release is done

[dreamy viper]

just waiting so I can code the new version on it

I have 3 mods I can port

[final pollen]

You should change the version numbering to be neo.[mc ver].forge.[mc hotfix].[ver]

So neo.26.forge.1.1

Horrible, yes

[strong wing]

Or just run MDG in vanilla mode

[marsh mason]

i mean, you can use the pre release as well, wouldn't imagine a lot changed

[final pollen]

But bad? Also

[dreamy viper]

neo.forge.26.1.1

[lusty thistle]

n.26.e.1.o.0.forge.0-beta

[marsh mason]

0.0.0-beta+mc.26.1

[tiny pumice]

2e0F1rG3

[plucky hollow]

for all those wondering 26.1.0.X-beta will be the version number

we are updated and running but the backend tooling is complaining about various things
so please do be patient while we work on getting the release out

[marsh mason]

the minecraft version is irrelevant build metadata afterall

[final pollen]

it should be notbeta-26.1-neo-0.0-ohwait-yeahitsbeta

Double negation my beloved

[lethal onyx]

it's not since any little change in mc source can break neo so we just reuse their version

[final pollen]

It also clearly shows which mc version the mod loader is for

[marsh mason]

think I forgot a /j there

[plucky hollow]

<mc_major>.<mc_minor>.<mc_patch>.<neo_build>[-beta]
is the format for the version number afaik

[lucid tree]

26.1 neo when? /J

[dreamy viper]

notbetanotrelease-26.n.e.o.f.o.r.g.e.1.beta.1

[final pollen]

Yes I was joking

[final pollen]

Twenty.six.point.one.point.zerl

[dreamy viper]

notbetanotrelease-26.n.e.o.f.o.r.g.e.1.beta.1.Twenty.six.point.one.point.zer.0.zer.0

this is horrible versioning ^

btw any signs of vulkan or is that the next update

[marsh mason]

that's assumed to be 26.2

but then again I don't think that's confirmed

[dreamy viper]

yes

[plucky hollow]

vulkan will come when its rdy, theres nothing set in stone on when that will be

[dreamy viper]

true

[inner creek]

vulkan is 26.2+ yes

[plucky hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wqIYgk-uD0

[dreamy viper]

https://tenor.com/view/soup-mode-seinfeld-gotta-focus-gif-12225708972448345001

[inner creek]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-soon-tongue-gif-7801070

[dreamy viper]

XD

[final pollen]

So that's why it's called chaos cubed

All the chaos is gonna be the porting

[dreamy viper]

XD

[plucky hollow]

hopefully they peice meal vulkan api to us via the snapshots
which will make updating "easier" rather than dump all in 1 and yolo it

[graceful laurel]

I can basically guarantee you that the initial Vulkan implementation will come in a single snapshot, anything else just doesn't make sense since it wouldn't run

[marsh mason]

afaik the initial release with vulkan (i assume 26.2) will have both gl and vk backends available

[inner creek]

my understanding was that the snapshots would have both, not necessarily the final release

but I find it likely that 26.2 will have both in order to get as wide testing as possible

[untold cypress]

we will stay in the testing period until we’re confident that the Vulkan implementation is stable, performant and ready

So potentially even 26.3

who knows

[inner creek]

ah yeah

[alpine minnow]

My guess is 27.1 will have VB and vulkan stable

[plucky hollow]

26.1.0.1-beta
Soon™

[inner creek]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-soon-licking-gif-21505977

[sick crystal]

ITS LIVE!

[final pollen]

Yeaaahg

Hard core to the mega

It's out!

[inner creek]

https://tenor.com/view/frankenstein-its-alive-gif-10618052

[modern coyote]

does Neo handle the new hidden window hint?

doesn't seem so

[inner creek]

no idea what that is

:P

[modern coyote]

the new borderless fullscreen option uses a window hint not documented anywhere

[inner creek]

our early loading system is probably not updated to whatever new stuff mc does

[modern coyote]

and only in the LWJGL fork of GLFW

[inner creek]

ah right that

yeah I wouldn't be surprised if it's missing

[modern coyote]

seems like borderless fullscreen is completely broken in the Neo build, then

and is just always exclusive

GLFW.glfwWindowHint(131088, glfwBool(!options.exclusiveFullScreen()));

this is the hidden window hint

(called GLFW_SOFT_FULLSCREEN in LWJGL)

[untold cypress]

Why is it .1 and not .0?

[plucky hollow]

some tech issues which required an additional push

[next harness]

pain

no pain no gain

has mc versioning been changed?

[visual basin]

yes

there was a whole thing about it

26.1 = the first major release of 2026

if there's hotfixes, they'll be 26.1.1, 26.1.2, etc

second major release will be 26.2

first major release of 2027 will be 27.1

estimate ~4 major releases per year

modpacks will probably stick to one major release per year and ignore the others

[next harness]

[final pollen]

Any ETA on neo 26.2 ? /j

[plucky hollow]

sometime this year
-# id hope

[final pollen]

What about 26.0

[plucky hollow]

0 doesnt exist

[final pollen]

This is the second time you have missed my humor

[next harness]

April foool

[final pollen]

I guess it can't be helped

[final pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-bart-simpson-bart-simpsons-gif-13641465063129186005

[runic anchor]

fools april

[dreamy viper]

can someone help me in #user-support my dev world is frozen on world loading

26.1, neoforge 26.1.0.1

[plucky hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZxN8Snfig

[plucky hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM-o2E5DhvA

[bold forge]

<@&1067092163520909374>

we've got a 26.1.1 rc

[untold cypress]

[untold oyster]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-26-1-1-release-candidate-1

[sharp ermine]

amazing 1 line change

[umbral lark]

[quartz spade]

Minecraft 26.1.1 Release Candidate 1

We are releasing 26.1.1 Release Candidate 1, addressing an issue with player reporting that we missed in the previous version. If no further issues are encountered, we will release 26.1.1 tomorrow with no additional changes.Happy mining!Fixed bugs in 26.1....

Mar 31, 2026, 11:24 AM

[plucky hollow]

26.1.1 - Release Candidate 1

• Primer: https://github.com/ChampionAsh5357/neoforged-github/blob/update/26.1/primers/26.1/index.md
• Article: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-26-1-1-release-candidate-1
• Changelog: https://misode.github.io/versions/?id=26.1.1-rc-1
• Notion: https://apexmodder.notion.site/2524f070f88880648482e3cbdcba566a?v=2524f070f88880b29f60000c52785ecb&p=3344f070f8888073bc5ada9ba8ffc25c&pm=c
• SnowMan: https://github.com/neoforged/Snowman/commit/729991d8096a4201c127ae4ae1a5ee0b6ad4b257

SlicedLimes Videos:

• Main: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjFo9nMD5Vo
• Pack: N/A

[untold oyster]

https://github.com/neoforged/Snowman/commit/729991d8096a4201c127ae4ae1a5ee0b6ad4b257

literally a one-line change

(substantive change)

[mental thorn]

A single ! was added to a single line

[fringe oriole]

lol

[untold oyster]

it seems to have been broken since 26.1-snapshot-7, based on the blame log

[mental thorn]

The release candidate was released a half hour into april fools in New Zealand

[shy valve]

the april fools joke is that the RC is the april fools version and they've hidden all the features from the release notes as part of the prank

[gray frigate]

y'all don't count for april fools

[hazy wind]

Anti chat reporting people would love that version now

[maiden spade]

Mojang destroyed No Chat Reports with this simple trick, discorver how

[untold oyster]

smh, NZ erasure /j

[untold cypress]

Only CET/CEST exists for mojang

[robust pike]

I'm pretty sure this doesn't need a primer

[toxic yoke]

microslop

[round spear]

Agree. Mojang already handled it by having the bug fix in the notes

[round spear]

Is that the joke?

[raven wharf]

article about 26.2 since testing is here for bedrock beta/preview, posting here since 26.2 Snapshots is locked since no snapshots yet
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/test-the-first-features-from-our-next-drop

[old pier]

Does nausea affect mobs? I thought it was one of those visual things that wasn’t all that impactful on things that don’t need to see via a screen.

[inner creek]

not in current versions
maybe they will change this in 26.2

like, the effect does apply, but it does nothing

[maiden spade]

Would be funny to have the mobs walking in random directions when affected by nausea

[old pier]

That’s what I thought but was unsure if it changed recently and I missed it.

It definitely would be nice to have more negative effects work on mobs. Would certainly make my life easier lol.

[craggy river]

That it would!
-# My mod has darts which can be tipped with items to inflict potion effects... they're almost completely useless against mobs, since almost all monsters are immune to most harmful effects!

[plucky hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjFo9nMD5Vo

[tawny spire]

[Jump to referenced message](#minecraft-updates message) in #minecraft-updates

gigaherz referenced · Apr 1, 2026, 11:00 AM

Minecraft 26.1.1

This is a new version. Changes listed from 26.1.1-rc-1.

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Quoted | Last updated · Apr 1, 2026, 9:11 AM

[inner creek]

<@&1067092163520909374>

[final pollen]

ah, i see

it's called 26.1.1

because 1 line was changed

[quartz spade]

New version detected: 26.1.1.

[inner creek]

their april fools is to make us believe there's an april fools

why did it not let me ping

[compact swan]

#minecraft-updates message what

[tawny spire]

[Jump to referenced message](#minecraft-updates message) in #minecraft-updates

wither.tm referenced · Apr 1, 2026, 11:03 AM

Minecraft 26.1.1

Version has been removed from the manifest :(

Quoted | Last updated · Apr 1, 2026, 9:11 AM

[inner creek]

ooooh

they pulled the wrong trigger?

[lethal onyx]

it did ping

[strong wing]

and I just gave out Snapshot Guesser

[inner creek]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-frog-hide-hidding-animal-frog-hidden-frog-excavate-gif-14993466909623380720

heyyy #minecraft-updates message

they republished

[lethal onyx]

there is no snapshot in ba sing se

[strong wing]

Discord just doesn't want to add the ~300 people who have the role to the thread

[inner creek]

oooh

[old wind]

The jar links have the same hash, so was it the metadata that changed?

[plucky hollow]

26.1.1 - Hotfix

• Primer: https://github.com/ChampionAsh5357/neoforged-github/blob/update/26.1/primers/26.1/index.md
• Article: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-java-edition-26-1-1
• Changelog: https://misode.github.io/versions/?id=26.1.1
• Notion: https://apexmodder.notion.site/2524f070f88880648482e3cbdcba566a?v=2524f070f88880b29f60000c52785ecb&p=3344f070f8888019b47ff9ea8f18d857&pm=c
• SnowMan: https://github.com/neoforged/Snowman/commit/d6ab32ecb2efdd1b8522aa3949ce94605e7951df

SlicedLimes Videos:

• Main: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqwNepcqAd4
• Pack: N/A

[quartz spade]

Minecraft: Java Edition 26.1.1

It's a sunny Wednesday in the shipping room and we're starting the day off with releasing 26.1.1, a hotfix release that addresses an important issue reported in the 26.1 release.Happy mining!Fixed bugs in 26.1.1MC-307140 Chat messages can no longer be repo...

Apr 1, 2026, 11:00 AM

[old wind]

Conspiracy theory time /s

The bug was included intentionally, so that they can test everyone's automations for the full new version number scheme (year.drop.hotfix)

[lethal onyx]

wait... did they push the publish button for the hotfix twice and the second release just replaced the first

[inner creek]

they published, unpublished, then republished

[cursive lily]

We didn't do anything different from the way we usually do things. Maybe some caching issue on that bot's end?

[inner creek]

no clue

[plucky hollow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqwNepcqAd4

[hazy wind]

interesting april fools joke /s

[bitter gorge]

My bot didnt have any issues like this. Although my scrape interval for the manifest is probably a lot longer (~5mins)

[inner creek]

I wonder how many requests per second they get specifically from people polling for version updates

[plucky hollow]

yes ps

[bitter gorge]

It seems to be azure cached? or a blob or something? I doubt we'd even show up on metrics compared to launchers

[inner creek]

oh yeah I don't think it makes a difference

just curious

[bitter gorge]

I felt bad even setting my bot to 5 mins, as i couldn't etag cache with k8s at the time

[lunar kraken]

Might have hit the thread member cap. Discord limits the amount of users that can be added to threads through pings. Pretty sure you can still manually join the thread past the cap

[inner creek]

yeah was pointd out by someone else

[shy valve]

Sus response given the day.

[cursive lily]

What do you think is sus about it?

[lucid tree]

It's April 1st

[cursive lily]

Just because it's April 1st doesn't mean everything that exists on that day is sus

[vapid juniper]

idk, this message is reading a bit sus to me.... /j

[arctic sierra]

Security Unintended Service

[quartz spade]

New version detected: 26w14a.

[bold forge]

<@&1067092163520909374>

[bitter gorge]

LOL

[north berry]

ono

[untold oyster]

IT BEGINS

[bold forge]

I guess old habits die hard

[lucid tree]

Ping?

[craggy river]

Ah, there it is.

[high sonnet]

[sharp ermine]

is there an article?

[bold forge]

please don't be obfuscated

[inner creek]

[lusty thistle]

Back to old versioning, 26.1 was a mistake

[lucid tree]

Damn they went back to their own versioning system 😲

[compact swan]

back to major versions as well

[hazy wind]

Please god, obfuscate it!

[round pike]

Article?

[bold forge]

it is not obfuscated

[hazy wind]

Soon, I bet

[lusty thistle]

Obfuscate Mod incoming

[inner creek]

no obfuscated, sadly

[lunar kraken]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpkGGA_TJ3Q