Elites
#Opinion: R3 Melee Is dying
twilit jay
But colosals just shred me
dusty lion
and every other ranged cleric abil
floral estuary
A side effect of this would be buffing ranged classes, as they tend to have shit melee ehp
tawdry bridge
you can not click colossal if you struggle with it
dusty lion
Bell -> Illuminate-> LI and boom shits dead and you heal
carmine ledge
is there some dumb ass strategy that makes Soul Rend affected by Sustenance during Dpact or what
floral estuary
Just don't take dpact 😭
dusty lion
is there some dumb ass strategy that makes Soul Rend affected by Sustenance duri...
what if I tell you I don't play dpact
carmine ledge
you genuenly can't do shit in pact, and the fact you literally get WORSE HEALING PENALTY than a class that get's to not get hit is fucking wild
twilit jay
Dpact is bad for reaper
floral estuary
Dpact is literally shooting yourself to the foot
carmine ledge
wow I sure do wish something would be done about it instead of everyone just admitably that it's ass and accepting that fact
dpact is quite literally equivalent of steak in tf2
giving damage vulnerability and locking into melee class that might not entirely want that
dusty lion
wow I sure do wish something would be done about it instead of everyone just adm...
the fuck you want us to do?
carmine ledge
you? nothing
floral estuary
wow I sure do wish something would be done about it instead of everyone just adm...
Changes take time
carmine ledge
but I'm curious why balance devs never touch d pact
floral estuary
Warlock has not been the priority for class balancing currently
carmine ledge
Changes take time
yes, this isn't me saying "wow this is bad change it instantly" and expecting a hotfix for it tomorrow, this was talked about for motnhs if not years
dusty lion
might take time before Warlock gets some attention from devs, rn the focus are Shaman and Warrior
carmine ledge
Warlock has not been the priority for class balancing currently
curious, what is
ah Shaman yea fair
why warrior though?
floral estuary
Bers is silly
dusty lion
why warrior though?
that's an mscr question I don't have the answer to
carmine ledge
compared to guardian yea?
But shouldn't guardian be touched instead?
or is bers is too silly
floral estuary
Warlock as a class is not problematic to balance
carmine ledge
that's an mscr question I don't have the answer to
last tormented dungeon with mscr I didn't saw him do the most, though I think he was playing guard
remote phoenix
i mean i would guess it's just easier and more convenient to touch berserker rn, especially since there's been a lot more discussion about it/more ideas to work off of
carmine ledge
fair
cursive kayak
this is truly a ssage moment
floral estuary
Warlock also isn't particularly popular class
cursive kayak
one of 2 specs not mentioned lmao
twilit jay
Warlock also isn't particularly popular class
It was
dusty lion
this is truly a ssage moment
god someone please save that spec
carmine ledge
Warlock also isn't particularly popular class
to be fair one half of the gameplay is waiting 10s for your only damage to go off cooldown while whacking mobs with goofily stated stick
and other half is whacking mobs with goofily stated stick while sometimes using your 10s cd damage bonus ability
there's a reason warlocks swear by inferno and as much as DoT stacking in games disgusts me, I can see their point
floral estuary
god someone please save that spec
Ssage hold by one charm
cursive kayak
god someone please save that spec
surely a .5 sec parry grants as much survivability as whatever tf stealth is
cursive kayak
Ssage hold by one charm
geniunely if the parasomnic balance patch didnt come out i wouldve alreadu made a ssage post
still should since the r2 situation is ridiculous
dusty lion
surely a .5 sec parry grants as much survivability as whatever tf stealth is
Assassin's stealth feels unethical man
twilit jay
he plays Mourning Star on LI1
Changed it
tawdry bridge
whar??
cursive kayak
ronde stacks get used to parry a hit gg spec saved
ud have to like double the stacks u get doe lol
dusty lion
he plays Mourning Star on LI1
atomic nexus
god someone please save that spec
sage can easily be buffed 10% and would feel like 50%
or alternatively just revert everflow and aether edge and make ronde deal actual damage
atomic trout
as much of a sage hater as I am it's been battered burned and bruised for long enough I think
bitter fractal
please make bd an actual ability without charms
solemn basalt
just like all devs 🙁
atomic trout
just like all devs 🙁
velvet gust
just like all devs 🙁
Bro
They have to rework the entire class to make it coherent
I don't think anyone wants to do that
steel sequoia
you realize that boon has around 40% the healing of DJ per kill on average
It is NOT boon
hoary hazel
What a hilariously bad title, good lord
It's true, the shadow government is intentionally destroying my playstyle in particular
:tinfoilHat:
orchid storm
divine justice slaps me to full health after i kill a mob
twilit jay
divine justice slaps me to full health after i kill a mob
maybe i shouldnt use the charm that nerfs the heal
orchid storm
yeah this is a you problem
orchid storm
maybe i shouldnt use the charm that nerfs the heal
what charms are you running
orchid storm
cbless 2
dj 2*
boon 2*
illu 2*
tor 2
holy javelin 2
li 2
twilit jay
what charms are you running
orchid storm
auto distill without neuron is crazy work
also what skills are you running to using martial mantra
hoary hazel
It's a good charm
tough snow
r3 melee is completely fine
like in intruder I played one bers build before and I was quite literally face tanking the boss and was doing decent damage
keen wharf
Like the other specs are fine as well . Some of them suck against tormenteds but that is all
dapper moss
Like the other specs are fine as well . Some of them suck against tormenteds but...
Yeah and tormenteds are never a good benchmark because they're meant to be multiplayer content (even if they're often not played that way)
formal hatch
Mostly because Loci’s Hunger is just dumb busted
pretty sure the usual intruder bers doesn't use loci hunger
vernal lake
Are we sure
Or is this not it
I don't think that's it
Is there no documentation of this in game
dim torrent
1.1x speed 👻 👻 👻
peak condor
ope
dim torrent
Does not exist
peak condor
ok could have sworn it was worse but the last time i thought of it was a long time ago
snow vector
ngl delve speed scaling does not need to exist
I imagine the mob's base speed is mindfully chosen so randomly buffing their speed seems a little nonsensical
vernal lake
I imagine this is true
floral estuary
Are we sure
in zenith its bit too much
peak condor
ok actually it can be kind of bad
vernal lake
65 pts is 1.1x
peak condor
0.24 is pretty reasonable
that becomes 0.26 after 22 pt
which is less than reasonable depending on the mob
snow vector
in zenith its bit too much
iirc only DD exceeds the 25pt cap and iirc it does so on damage and health only
dim torrent
Id assume because more players means faster pace
floral estuary
iirc only DD exceeds the 25pt cap and iirc it does so on damage and health only
zenith does too
dim torrent
So mobs get a smidge of a speed buff 🤏
snow vector
zenith does too
Curse of the 600 health basic enemy 🤯
floral estuary
snow vector
The humble Shadowdancer entering the unskippable cutscene of taking 800 crits to kill the vengeful mob
peak condor
but i would imagine a mob whose speed is on the cusp of reasonable like maybe 0.26 base gets pretty noticeably funnier
after scaling
steel sequoia
imagine how much funnier a rotating that makes mob speed randomly variable would be
deep blaze
a spawner spawns in front of you, but you don't see anything.
you then notice the oar protruding out of your chest and cough out blood
carmine ledge
"nothin' personal, aye?"
steel sequoia
it's actually great because every class suffers equally
formal hatch
it's actually great because every class suffers equally
exept the a certain one widely known as 🌵
steel sequoia
i mean, having a speedy evoker would be hell
tiny sigil
> "R3 melee is dying"
> presents zero compellin' evidence
> presents zero clear point of contention
> presents zero potential solutions
R3 melee is not dyin', you're dyin' when you try to play it because you have skill issue
mild jungle
he said the thing
tiny sigil
as far as actual things that can strangle melee classes a bit in the Ring go
I think the most obvious example to cite is the abundance of magic in the region compared to its predecessors
there's a reason I value Magic Protection so highly, and it's not (just) because I wanna be able to run Arcanic and not wanna Black Swan Song myself
orchid storm
R3 melee is not dyin', *you're* dyin' when you try to play it because you have s...
He was playing mourning star with LI level 1
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tiny sigil
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peak condor
pile of dogs
velvet gust
just close the thead 🥀