shatter attack that shatters your gear
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polar loom
slow drum
-150% Melee Resistance on the boss, only when it’s casting Shatter
tranquil oyster
I always forget Necronomicon exists
polar loom
ive had it in hotbar every fight
polar loom
I always forget Necronomicon exists
it only exists in high a brood and jeremy apparently
tranquil oyster
but now that you mention it yeah it's an extremely useful item for Jeremy
what with Wither bein' such a common effect (which is in turn a consequence of nearly all relevant mobs outside of exalted rush bein' wither skeletons)
tranquil oyster
can somebody with the advancements I don't have grab me the descriptions for Shadowscape Duo and the solo advancement
gaunt temple
anni works
shy glacier
Me when I cast MS...the Screamroom: "GET BACK INSIDE!!!"
icy raven
can somebody with the advancements I don't have grab me the descriptions for Sha...
Just search fennic on advancement website or smth
dull walrus
when are these items getting added to api
dusty kayak
i think it might come next week
shy glacier
i think it might come next week
Does that mean after today's weekly update or after next week's weekly update?
dusty kayak
after today's
hoary parrot
fervent fox
is cognitive distortion as solo still kinda rough
i like doing the boss solo and having it debuff me indefinitely if i fail sounds very 💀
gaunt temple
the humble annilys
gaunt temple
yeah i anni in the center
fervent fox
oh right i forgor you can kill the mobs anyway
gaunt temple
the fight is so long that the cooldown is over by the time you hit second distortion lol
fervent fox
yea should be lol
willow pulsar
Annilys and its consequences on all of boss design in monumenta
icy raven
but if you remove it then you have to remove 2 advancements
so you cant! its locked in sorry
mental cloak
Technically untrue
Just use bdance
mental cloak
So how much does Screamroom / the funny darkroom debuff you for now?
If it's still 30% each that's kinda messed up
plus what -50% healing etc
polar narwhal
i forgot to log it bt its all 10% stacking now
mental cloak
can it be cleansed
shy glacier
can it be cleansed
This person is identifying if they can invest that ONE point into Cleansing Rain to make 🌵 work again...
mental cloak
no it always works you just need to be slightly more careful with managing your luminous when it's about to screamroom
pale creek
yea thorns can kill screamroom
if any else fails you can just use a fury right before
or a damassine
and well duo is self explanatory
polar narwhal
im pretty sure you can only cleasne the darkness 👍
deep fox
mist did not need to be twice as hard...
wtf
why does it just move at twice the speed now
was this even intended?
im actually kind of convinced it wasnt intended because the wording wouldnt be "particle interval 10 -> 5 ticks "
it would probably be like 2x speed or something
i think it might be fine if not for the fact that you have to guess where mist is going to turn
i suggest like add an indicator for the direction its going to turn during the sound cue
ornate mica
Yeah mist is actually a lot harder because you need to change your own speed
polar narwhal
er
it move like a bit faster because I screwed with some constants
I also decreased the interval for changing directions
if it really is a bit too much I can revert it but I do like the new difficulty it has -w-
ornate mica
I guess the bigger problem is it’s less ping friendly
Your position lags behind
maybe we just haven’t gotten used to it though
deep fox
yeah
i play on 200-300ms and if it changes to the opposite direction or like past 180 degree angle it is literally impossible to react to and you will get hit atleast once
polar narwhal
Well uh I am too an asian -w-
ornate mica
ykw after second thought
I think it’s not bugged it’s just everything adds together
We got used to the one before and it being a little faster
polar narwhal
The old one did the wrong math with the sin() function so idk what the hell the multiplier actually was
perhaps I overestimated players a bit much
devout star
new mist feels awful to follow
the speed increase feels like you have to get hit a coouple times
wanton dock
yeah it like
slows down when it turns
and then just instantly starts zooming into a random direction
you're borderline forced to take hits
paired with disabled healing its such a shitty attack now
devout star
and doubled dmg
wanton dock
also im fairly certain player collision is not disabled
polar narwhal
😭
meager token
Must be fun with Jeffrey
winged talon
TLDR
The boss feels worse after the changes, Cerebral Overcharge does too much damage, Parasomnic Mist is too difficult to comfortably avoid, Screamroom and Cognitive Distortion permanent debuffs should be changed, and area limiting attacks should disable mobs.
In a bit more detail:
Playing the boss again after the changes feels worse, my first clear post change took over an hourwhen we would generally get it within a couple attempts before. Main issues are that Cerebral Overcharge is for some reason doing way more damage than it did before (which isn't listed in the change logs to my knowledge), and Parasomnic Mist is way too punishing for us high ping players. It hurts a lot more, moves way too quickly, much more frequently changes direction (especially when it hits the edge of the arena like it so often does) and has no indicator of which direction it will move (at least that I could see).
I think Screamroom and Cognitive Distortion debuffs lasting for the whole fight is kind of weird? Like if I get hit by a Cognitive debuff in the beginning of the fight I'm just gonna restart instead of playing the rest of the fight debuffed, in which case I would honestly prefer it to insta kill instead, but obviously if you get hit by it towards the end you'll just try and cope with it and an insta kill would be too punishing at that point. I wonder if the debuff could just last until a specific phase? Like getting a carving cleanses the permanent debuffs from failing Cognitive or Scream.
Additionally, Parasomnic Mist cast does not cancel Cerebral Overcharge cast (as seen in this clip: https://medal.tv/games/minecraft/clips/knV1HCc6u68rcTnpP?invite=cr-MSxPMUssMjY2Nzc2NjAx). I assume this is a bug, but on that topic I think certain attacks that limit the area players can stand in could stand to benefit from disabling mob movement and attacks as well, such as the elites invading your Screamroom.
slow drum
Cerebral Overcharge got tweaked
ornate mica
For the final point
Screamroom is specifically designed to mess up those who don’t clear adds
So kill your elites before carving on hallucinations 3
slow drum
it always dealt this much damage but previously got iframed so it dealt 0 in you took damage in the last 0.5s
slow drum
For the final point
Screamroom is specifically designed to mess up those who don...
kill your elites before carving in general
winged talon
it always dealt this much damage but previously got iframed so it dealt 0 in you...
i thought they adjsuted cerebral outburst, not overcharge
supple turtle
Disagree for screamroom cause u should kill mob
meager token
Did Cognitive Distortion debuffs become permanent?
supple turtle
Yes this week
polar narwhal
They use t he same base spell
meager token
And was doing it solo made more tolerable?
polar narwhal
which had a bug'
polar narwhal
It wss done because as people pointed out, the debuffs made you just run around the whole fight.
Though it is kinda useless at the first distortion
meager token
I'm more interested if you kept its "speedrun to the circle before the mobs close in or risk getting inevitably knocked outside and be forced a debuff upon" nature as solo
Because if yes then damn are you lazy
To apply a "fix" to an issue that makes another issue just worse
winged talon
pre balance i would get hit by overcharge and it would not deal 9 hearts to me, now it does
idk if it was intentional or not but it doesn't feel good at all
meager token
9 hearts? 
slow drum
I'm more interested if you kept its "speedrun to the circle before the mobs clos...
are you not capable of killing the mobs
meager token
are you not capable of killing the mobs
I do not happen to be capable of killing them in a comfortable timeframe
slow drum
is it like, an… unfair amount of difficulty?
meager token
The perma 10% debuffs?
meager token
getting tossed around like a ping-pong ball even with my shield raised is less than fun
dusty kayak
did the last phase of this get buffed @polar narwhal
slow drum
getting tossed around like a ping-pong ball even with my shield raised is less t...
jade is this “intended challenge”
dusty kayak
i was chilling before the update but i had to pi twice this time
i just took like
massive damage hits
for the first ever time
long pond
Main issues are that Cerebral Overcharge is for some reason doing way more damage than it did before (which isn't listed in the change logs to my knowledge)
The change is that it no longer respects iframes
long pond
TLDR
The boss feels worse after the changes, Cerebral Overcharge does too much ...
(in response to this)
somber pine
What was done to stillwater
polar narwhal
tbh our damage pipeline is a bit silly so I just made it respect its own iframes instead
somber pine
What was done to stillwater
I have been having issues with getting thrown back in the arena
long pond
but yeah, the debuff on cognitive being permanent without nerfing it is kinda obnoxious
polar narwhal
it's 10%
winged talon
> Main issues are that Cerebral Overcharge is for some reason doing way more dam...
so now that it ignores iframes, is it now hitting you multiple times whenever you touch it?
winged talon
my point isnt that im now suddenly getting hit by them when i wouldnt before, its that im taking way more damage than i was before
long pond
it still respects its own iframes, or is supposed to anyway
winged talon
yeah but it now does a lot more damage
i was easily able to tank overcharges in a tank set previously, they would deal less than 25% of my hp and now they deal half
idk whats happening but it is definitely hitting for more
long pond
it's 10%
that doesn't make the actual attack itself any less obnoxious
i don't particularly care if the post-attack penalty is very strong or not, the actual thing itself just feels bad to do for a chunk of builds
slow drum
i was easily able to tank overcharges in a tank set previously, they would deal ...
i’m assuming that you got hit by some other attack in the previous 0.5s which soaked up the iframe
mental cloak
i was easily able to tank overcharges in a tank set previously, they would deal ...
I mean... Good?
You should not be able to tank Big Blast Sonic™
winged talon
if the intention is for it to nuke you then thats that, but what i mean is i was definitely taking more damage from overcharge
everyone else in my guild has had the same experience
there is no way we were all conviniently iframing overcharge pre update every single time
with like over a 100 clears across all of us
mental cloak
Overcharge could be two spells in one which don't respect each other? Maybe
winged talon
yeah not sure, i assume its something to do with the iframe removal, i just feel like it wasnt intended since it wasnt explicitly mentioned in patch notes
keen jackal
idk it does lowkey feel like cerebral ignoring iframes now can hit you multiple times when you get hit by intersecting cerebrals
and it just nukes you
this has never happened pre changes
meager token
Cognitive requiring you to stay solo for as long in a stationary circle as if you were duo in a mobile circle is bs too, honestly
Like I have time to kill mobs by the time they gang up in the middle of the circle
keen jackal
Overcharge could be two spells in one which don't respect each other? Maybe
overcharge is the one that casts 1 trillion of cerebral around the arena right
mental cloak
yes
mental cloak
The cast bar version is an AOE around intruder + lines coming out of it
meager token
are you not capable of killing the mobs
also idk what are you on, my Volley literally phases out of existence
I literally can't kill the mobs because my projectiles vanish into nothingness
slow drum
what bow do you use
meager token
i wanna say something but I will get muted
wanton dock
Bow AND agi scout is a diabolical combo
slow drum
idk how ex roar is in general but like
if you have 75 mobs in a cluster i think piercing is beneficial
meager token
mmmmm i wanna say that’s a gear issue then
so the fact my arrows literally disintegrate is my gear's fault?
wanton dock
so the fact my arrows literally disintegrate is my gear's fault?
Check your quiver
Using teal arrows prolly
meager token
normal arrows
mental cloak
I do not think the boss is specifically designed to counter scout by removing arrows but idk
slow drum
so the fact my arrows literally disintegrate is my gear's fault?
wait do you mean “my Volley doesn’t have enough AoE” or “my Volley is bugged and not hitting stuff”
meager token
my Volley disappears
wanton dock
That is not a boss issue
Either that's placebo or that's you missing something or it's a bug
mental cloak
scout nerfs hitting hard
meager token
Gonna try again
keen jackal
my Volley **disappears**
no piercing i assume
long pond
I would assume it's very literal "disappears"
keen jackal
hit the shulkers
oh i know why
mental cloak
Oh in cognitive
keen jackal
the liminal right
yeah their main hitbox is the middle one
if you hit the top or bottom shulker u deal no damage and ur volley just shits itself
meager token
so gear issue
wanton dock
hit the shulkers
Why are you hitting them in the first place
keen jackal
no you have to hit the middle shulker to damage/kill them
mental cloak
so gear issue
what? No
wanton dock
Liminal shadows are meant to be dodged
keen jackal
youre probably not hitting them
meager token
Why are you hitting them in the first place
because someone told me to kill them if I don't want to be treated as a ping pong ball and knocked out of the circle
mental cloak
just use annilys
meager token
that's just cheese
wanton dock
because someone told me to kill them if I don't want to be treated as a ping pon...
For one, yeah just annilys
mental cloak
They're right
wanton dock
But also
mental cloak
that's just cheese
ITS IN THE GAME
wanton dock
Wtb mainhand shield
mental cloak
IT IS AN ITEM DESIGNED TO MAKE YOU BE STILL
meager token
ITS IN THE GAME
so doing this boss solo suddenly requires you to own an epic?
wanton dock
It disables them basically
mental cloak
so doing this boss solo suddenly requires you to own an epic?
YOU CAN DO IT WITHOUT IT
meager token
YOU CAN DO IT WITHOUT IT
And I'm saying it's bs without it
wanton dock
so doing this boss solo suddenly requires you to own an epic?
I can solo liminal shadows without annilys and without touching a single one. Your point?
long pond
in the same way that having stronger items makes doing content easier
meager token
Why are you all trying to gaslight yourselves so much to believe Cognitive is all fine
mental cloak
"oh I'm having trouble doing this section"
"Hey why don't you try using this it really helps"
"That's cheese"
???
long pond
no one is saying it's fine
keen jackal
"oh I'm having trouble doing this section"
"Hey why don't you try using this it ...
pride ego thing
same logic why some people dont use PI cause its a 'crutch'
mental cloak
Why are you all trying to gaslight yourselves so much to believe Cognitive is al...
It's okay because it pushes you to evade or kill them
It's inordinately harder solo which is weird tho
long pond
but unless the devs change it, you have to operate with the tools available to you
wanton dock
It is significantly harder solo than duo, yes, but that's the essence of solo
Even if you're so allergic to annilys for one reason or another, you can do it without it because I do too
mental cloak
I've done it before solo without annilys
meager token
"oh I'm having trouble doing this section"
"Hey why don't you try using this it ...
"The thing that helps and doesn't make it a headache solo is only an epic item"
Change the lobby text to "2 players or Annilys required"
wanton dock
"The thing that helps and doesn't make it a headache solo is only an epic item"
Have you tried not using armor, I've heard it makes you take less damage and the boss becomes easier I think it's kinda cheese
slow drum
are you running split 2 pinning 2
if you’re not then i think you’re kinda cooked in terms of getting rid of em
allegedly you can also wind bomb
cannot confirm though
mental cloak
"The thing that helps and doesn't make it a headache solo is only an epic item"
Okay, sorry for trying to give advice
on a thing that you seemed to struggle with
meager token
on a thing that you seemed to struggle with
This is a feedback thread. I am telling it's bs to do solo because you get tossed around 9/10 like some ping pong ball.
Annilys is another topic, but I will take it into consideration.
keen jackal
does windbomb bypass kb resistance
no
regal reef
I can confirm that windbomb works really well for launching the shulkers and giving you some space
slow drum
wind bomb 1 is probably the most legit solution then :/
stark herald
Honestly I feel like cognitive little circle can be placed on the outer edge if you're solo
void crown
TLDR
The boss feels worse after the changes, Cerebral Overcharge does too much ...
With regards to parasomnic, I had no troubles keeping up personally, I think across 2 attempts getting to that point I only took 1 instance of damage, but meanwhile my duo was looking a lot more like your duo in the clip where they were several blocks behind constantly taking damage and struggling to keep up. Definitely seems to be way more punishing to high ping players (and should be changed imo) which is unfortunate because I do quite like this faster version.
I don't mind debuffs lasting in duo, but as HV has pointed out distortion is disproportionately difficult to playing solo where you just get ganged up on in the centre and have no leeway to move because unlike your partner, the circle is stationary. I honestly don't know how to solve this in a satisfying way.
Having the circle move around similar to mist would just lead to it moving into mobs half the time causing the same issue. Placing the circle somewhere else and not in the middle would lessen it, but still cause issues some of the time. Making solo debuffs not infinite would go against the intention of the changes and feels like a band aid.
mental cloak
I think hitting mobs should halt them for a brief time
keen jackal
on ping parasomnic is pretty obnoxious TK
mental cloak
or turn them into weeping angels, lmao
void crown
on ping parasomnic is pretty obnoxious TK
I said that yeah
stark herald
I think we should normalize annilys usage I think
keen jackal
my bad i failed the read challenge
mental cloak
stark herald
Me coded
mental cloak
o/
void crown
simply add a check that if a person has over 200ms ping the first instance of damage after not being in the circle is blocked 👍
rancid bramble
the 3rd cubes speed elite is
absolutely undefendable under any circumstances
why is it still like this
its so fast it clips through projectiles 80% of the time
i dont believe having an elite that promotes both potion injector and ignoring its mechanics in favor of "oneshotting" is healthy
keen jackal
i agree
rancid bramble
it "promoting" pi is kind of a fake point but
keen jackal
its so obnoxious to deal with
rancid bramble
the rest of it still stands
keen jackal
yeah
rancid bramble
i fought it normally once which involved me literally iring upwards and firing down to hit shots
its probably not a good thing i was forced to do that to even consistently hit it
meager token
the 3rd cubes speed elite is
whoever made it and greenlit it needs a visit from Deadeye
Its only "saving grace" is that it deals moderate to low damage
but being unable to hit it most of the time also means you'll be taking quite a few more of those "moderate to low damage" hits
also, in its last phase it starts jumping around too I guess because being fast as hell didn't make it obnoxious enough
stark herald
It's so peak
I think it could be made a wither skeleton (without the wither debuff) so atleast it has a larger hitbox
vivid garnet
i heard its completely blockable by a shield
pale creek
maybe
other attacks that will certainly happen wont be tho
and cant really damage it with a shield can you
warm flint
its hilarious
deep kayak
you cant hit it with melee sob
gaunt temple
can confirm the "disabled player collision" is a lie
polar narwhal
:(
deep kayak
😭
stark herald
can confirm the "disabled player collision" is a lie
This gets cocopad seal of affirmation (
)
supple turtle
2 daily run after new mist, pls give it some sort of where it gonna go, We do have sound cue when it gonna change direction, but at current speed (I heard its bug, move too fast rn), is a bit hard to keep up
deep fox
it should also slow down when it starts moving for the first time
polar narwhal
It isn't bugged technically
deep fox
the speed right now is pretty fine
ive done it a few times
i just get clipped at the start because i dont know where its going. to go and it goes instantly at full speed
supple turtle
average 270 ms be like
I manage to follow it but every time it change direction I take 1 hit
Now I am thinking splash absorb potion or have higher max hp
deep fox
100 hp build
supple turtle
Finally time for roots of life to shine
deep fox
i already have a build so i can not put up with the bs that is sinking nightmares
i can make another one
pale creek
Three builds for one jeremy fight
polar narwhal
Im ngl, after doing it 2 times on play, it's kind of not that hard (260ms ping)
polar narwhal
-w-!
supple turtle
I will improve my skill 
grand shadow
might not be the place to ask but any1 knows why my ping would look like this everytime i enter the abhorent nightmare phase?
or maybe it's just my wifi tweaking out, the earlier parts of the fight is always normal tho
rancid bramble
It's so peak
cocopad
do not.. do not support the bald game design
its bald because i want to tear my hair out after watching the heroin addict mob inject performance enhancing steroids into its veins for the 50th time
its bearable on melee ig
meanwhile projectile. . .
warm flint
It's hilarious
polar loom
tranquil oyster
its bearable on melee ig
as melee the only issue I have with it is that it's a right bastard to hit in its last third of health
stark herald
The last elite should blow up if its alive for too long on its final third of its health
long pond
Creeper elite, does dmg equal to its current hp when exploding
pale creek
The final elite should blow up on spawn
gaunt temple
Creeper elite, does dmg equal to its current hp when exploding
dps check more like shield check
pale creek
A celebration firework if you will
long pond
dps check more like shield check
Give it arcanic missiles
tender slate
mist is unnecessarily hard for a mech that is not even very cool or fun. to contrast, the meteor shower mech is fun and fair
it also doesnt help that mist happens late into the fight
hot yacht
its not that hard and you can bring health potions if youre struggling
and besides glass walls its probably the most bullet hell-esque attack which i think is pretty cool
tender slate
im talkig about the mist mech
hot yacht
the circle?
tender slate
yes
hot yacht
yeah thats what im talking about
"bullets" being the whole arena besides the circle, its micrododging which is all bullet hell is
meager token
And how long does that -healing% debuff last?
If you do end up taking damage from the mist.
hot yacht
no idea it cant be that long ive used pots mid mist after taking damage within the last 1-2s
i use absorption though so i guess it could be a bug if there even is a -100% healing
meager token
hmm
My only worry with current mist is Jeffrey.
I haven't got to try it that way yet, but it might end up being more of a headache than it's worth.
The old mist already had some problems with Jeffrey.
And now the circle is faster while as small as before.
clear swallow
i use absorption though so i guess it could be a bug if there even is a -100% he...
That’s a bug
All healing sources should be disabled until mist ends
meager token
I feel like it must be a bug too
hot yacht
o
meager token
Because I got hit a few times by mist and wouldn't heal until it ended
Hell, one time I entered it without max hp
hot yacht
anyway i usually dont have to use pots so i dont think its too hard
meager token
It stopped regenerating as the spell started
hot yacht
its also post reincarnation buff iirc
meager token
Ah, Reincarnation
The one time I picked it to deal with the new Mist I didn't get hit at all
And then lost it during the second Cognitive
fossil acorn
mist is unnecessarily hard for a mech that is not even very cool or fun. to cont...
Are you a very high ping player?
meager token
Without Wind Bomb, Cognitive is so ass to try and stay in the circle for long enough. The mobs have wacky hitboxes too that just delete arrows. And if they gang up on you then good luck, you either escape while still mid-air or have to deal with a perma debuff (yay)
tender slate
Are you a very high ping player?
like 90ms?
fossil acorn
like 90ms?
I don’t see how most could be that bad then
hot yacht
just stay around the upper 2/3 mark (up being the direction the circle is moving) seems like the sweet spot for new mist
fossil acorn
Mist is very reasonable for lower ping players
tender slate
ok!
fossil acorn
I think ive only died to mist once
What do you think the problem is
I mean compared
To the difficulty of the rest of boss
void crown
Yeah mist is like one of my favourite attacks at 100ms, shame is only happens once kinda deep into the fight
fossil acorn
It would have been for fun imo with a bigger circle but having to dodge beam type bullet hell attacks
fossil acorn
I mean it wouldn’t be that bad for reg
Well idk
That’s just a random thought
The only real problem is most for high ping players
mental cloak
It would have been for fun imo with a bigger circle but having to dodge beam typ...
correct
Or even if the circle was stationary and the projectiles just dealt high kb
(welcome back eldrask)
meager token
What do you think the problem is
That I can't tell when standing closer to the edge of the circle will kill me. Sometimes I think I'm standing close enough to mid but still take damage. Sometimes I'm not standing that close to mid but still survive.
Might be a ping issue, idk
Still, more of an annoyance than anything.
keen jackal
correct
Or even if the circle was stationary and the projectiles just dealt high...
parasomnic mist with antumbral attacking you is just like rabit and steel!!!
mental cloak
regal reef
Is it a bug that reincarnation doesn’t heal you during mist due to anti heal? Or is that intentional
I’ve seen other players die in mist immediately after triggering reincarnation (the next damage instance kills them)
polar narwhal
It's a weird bug, infact the reincarnation had worked for me during mist too
it's weird
shy glacier
I’ve seen other players die in mist immediately after triggering reincarnation (...
It happened to me once
mental cloak
Saw it happen to a teammate; I think it's just a totem except that that's what, 4 HP?
In absorption?
gaunt temple
Is it a bug that reincarnation doesn’t heal you during mist due to anti heal? Or...
i've reincarned in mist twice and gotten my hp back
so ig its inconsistent
regal reef
I’ve seen other players die in mist immediately after triggering reincarnation (...
I should say I witnessed these before the most recent update. It could be different now
tranquil oyster
in my experience, it's inconsistent whether or not the reincarnation works durin' mist
it either gets around the heal block and full heals you
or it doesn't and you die instantly on reincarn because no health? Megamind meme
slow drum
@polar narwhal i’m gonna bet one hcs that it’s because Reincarnation uses the same cursed ass “remove all -heal effects” as dpact soul rend and there’s a tick desync where it sometimes applies the heal before the effect cleanse and sometimes after
polar narwhal
er
the source code is public
Ive looked through it and I cant find the bug
Ill have to actually test it a bunch more
slow drum
reincarn is public?
slow drum
wait what does it set health to
polar narwhal
player maxhealth
midnight ruin
Does anyone perchance have a video of a full duo run from this week :333
regal reef
Does anyone perchance have a video of a full duo run from this week :333
I can probably record a duo run later if you still need. Anything specific you want me to focus on, or do you just want the whole thing played normally?
midnight ruin
I can probably record a duo run later if you still need. Anything specific you w...
I am looking for completely normal and average gameplay
It is for science
hoary trellis
I think something funky is going on with cerebral overcharge
I got one shotted by that thingh
sly halo
Will just put it here so people know, currently the boss doesn’t give pass progress because… I forgot to add it 
. should be fixed for next daily
void crown
On the other hand I think each hunt boss counts which are proportionally quite easy
sly halo
yep they do
tranquil oyster
can confirm hunts count
warm flint
Will just put it here so people know, currently the boss doesn’t give pass progr...
Makes sense. Jeremy could probably get pass progress if he killed me, though.
It's not a boss fight for me, it's a boss fight for him.
shy glacier
It's not a boss fight for me, it's a boss fight for him.
Alright, so each time you die to Jeremy, you must now give Jeremy 10 HAR
warm flint
nobody's buying my mats unfortunately for him
my gear set is exclusively cleric charms and proj magic hybrid items
shy glacier
nobody's buying my mats unfortunately for him
Nope. You have committed
placid kelp
cerebral overcharge feels like it hits way way harder than it used to
placid kelp
well, I finished my solo with current patch, ended up playing in f5 the whole time just to watch for cerebrals constantly
otherwise feels like it's in a pretty good spot
willow plaza
nobody's buying my mats unfortunately for him
not sure pi was ever buying the mats
warm flint
not sure pi was ever buying the mats
placid kelp
otherwise feels like it's in a pretty good spot
i know lucid rend is getting looked at anyways, but them just chilling in screamroom is kind of hilarious
sly halo
Makes sense. Jeremy could probably get pass progress if he killed me, though.
Sure, starting next week, if you die to him, now he takes your MP
warm flint
~~Sure, starting next week, if you die to him, now he takes your MP~~
Does that mean every Sirius clear yoinks a bit of his MP?
If so, I have a fun new incentive for breaking rocks
regal reef
@midnight ruin here is a casual lfg twisted fight
https://youtu.be/01QoyvYozYU
I did a bunch today so if you need more for science lmk and I'll dm some recordings to you so that I'm not clogging up this thread
mental cloak
the duelist sword for the single evoker mob in the fight 🔥
long pond
I think a venn diagram of “ppl who casually do content” and “ppl who would willingly record their content” would be two separate circles
immediately off the bat, hardware limitations apply
Potato pc running obs while trying to do a boss fight is gonna be pretty miserable
slow drum
I think a venn diagram of “ppl who casually do content” and “ppl who would willi...
monucommentary. the circles at least touch
velvet coral
the duelist sword for the single evoker mob in the fight 🔥
aw hell naw FUCK that Manifested Herald of the Secret Stars we jumping homie
meager token
Potato pc running obs while trying to do a boss fight is gonna be pretty miserab...
Yeah, an already ahh internet connection + recording it definitely made the last phase laggier than it should have been.
The entire fight, in fact.
placid kelp
i should go check chat logs to see how long my solo arcanist took
meager token
aw hell naw FUCK that Manifested Herald of the Secret Stars we jumping homie
Does LB boss not fly off into the stratosphere anymore?
placid kelp
that was a deeply unimpressive solo like I was not running a damage set really at all and a good amount of time was spent eating fotc for saturation
placid kelp
Does LB boss not fly off into the stratosphere anymore?
flies off less
shy glacier
https://youtu.be/d2Vl4v3JHbc
That seems much closer to casual. Out of curiousity, what is the build?
meager token
By the way, if two people get caught in Jeremy's status stealing skill, are both of their Nightmare Carving buffs transferred to Jeremy, or only one player's?
It might end up being a little funny if we pick 35% resistance and then Jeremy gets it three times. 
(just a hypothetical—a what-if—not a scenario that had actually happened)
gaunt temple
does it actually transfer all of the buffs to the boss? i thought it just cleared them
also its not 35% resistance the first two carvings dont stack so it just ends up being 20% resistance
polar narwhal
It just clears
meager token
also its not 35% resistance the first two carvings dont stack so it just ends up...
Oh, never noticed that
meager token
It just clears
So what was it about the Nightmare Carvings buffs being stacked on top of Jeremy's buffs? Or is that a misconception?
polar narwhal
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Replace BBlood with Cerebral Contortion, and antumbral chains in charms
mental cloak
It just clears
Ngl can it please transfer them I think it would be infinitely funnier to drink a dark thunder and have it go hyperspeed
slow drum
So what was it about the Nightmare Carvings buffs being stacked on top of Jeremy...
Carvings buffs jeremy
like taking 15% res gives jeremy 15% res too
slow drum
Ngl can it please transfer them I think it would be infinitely funnier to drink ...
pop one of these
regal reef
this is like full meta build
Idk what meta build people are using but that was my normal r3 clearing build on berserker.
acoustic wigeon
yeah the "meta" build is literally what i use for 65pt on bers but with like 2 more dmg pieces
its really just berserker i think
idk
mental cloak
Infusions, mw?
regal reef
I could see how it may not represent average player gameplay, but someone asked for footage of the boss and no one replied. I labeled it as “casual” since it was casual in relation to how I played
meager token
Carvings buffs jeremy
I'm talking about Malewhatever Conduit stealing Carvings buff and stacking it onto Jeremy
Was that a misconception?
slow drum
yeah it doesn’t happen
mental cloak
Misconception
mental cloak
Maybe it clears your buff and that's it
acoustic wigeon
i think it just clears ur buffs and gives u minus healing unless that was the swords
regal reef
Infusions, mw?
I think it was understanding, aura, fueled, choler, decap, and something else
mental cloak
Levels?
regal reef
Maxed, it’s one of my main clearing sets
slow drum
i think it just clears ur buffs and gives u minus healing unless that was the sw...
it’s this
dusty kayak
the duelist sword for the single evoker mob in the fight 🔥
what.
if you dont play all 3 swords in a bossfight you might need to question yourself
not like you need a pick or blocks
pseudo tulip
if you dont play all 3 swords in a bossfight you might need to question yourself
All 3 swords: Abisso, Gladius and Clockblade
dusty kayak
no..
wanton dock
if you dont play all 3 swords in a bossfight you might need to question yourself
Literally just play fading horizon in twisted
Damage isn't a big bottleneck in this fight
Meta build is just more sustain to afford less eating and healing downtime
thorn arrow
Literally just play fading horizon in twisted
my build would otherwise have no life drain so it’s kind of a goated pick for that reason alone
grand shadow
i just use poise guard, works very well until ailment eat the absorbtion
spark radish
i just use poise guard, works very well until ailment eat the absorbtion
necronomicon 
polar narwhal
does anyone have a video of mist killing through reincarnation?
deep fox
its honestly ok if you dont lag
devout star
I feel like it is very ping based
vivid garnet
recent run i had both to pop a reincarnation and use annilys to barely survive
and this wasnt even the first attempt
3rd
dusty kayak
its fair at around <100 ping but its pretty sillu
deep fox
me at 300ms
vivid garnet
my ping is 150-250 usually
deep fox
i can dodge it consistetly as long as it doesnt do a 180 turn
vivid garnet
current mist might work if the ring was bigger
dusty kayak
Im forced to take damage a lot but its a consistent win
supple turtle
rn i can reduce hit taken to only 1-3, average 270ms, doable
wanton dock
It'd be way more fair if player collision was actually disabled as the changelog said
slow drum
i also do wish that Reincarnation didn't put a bigass totem in front of you
because i burn it during mist and then i take another tick because the totem is blocking the circle
grand shadow
so far since the mist change, me and my /lfg teamate always use totem during mist
i mean the resurection buff
deep fox
i take it back about dodging it consistently
if i eat another totem in mist im pulling out the 80 hp build
slow drum
if i eat another totem in mist im pulling out the 80 hp build
pull out Glory to the Eternal for that 100% Absorption too
deep fox
im not spending 28ccs for every mist i do
wait
mist has -100% healing
does it have -100% absorption
deep fox
thats crazy
slow drum
actually you can probs just
eat soulfruit
those are cheap enough
or you could sit there and chug pomes but that adds up unless you’re a zenith addict
deep fox
i dont think you outheal mist if you just chug pomes
slow drum
i dont think you outheal mist if you just chug pomes
how much damage does mist do
wanton dock
Then it's just true raw yeah
slow drum
it’s true flat damage
wanton dock
Since I've never tried max hp stacking in it
slow drum
but how much
wanton dock
Well with a 80 hp build that's not hard to test me thinks
deep fox
Removed Parasomnic Mist's final still section, player collision disabled when active, particle interval 10 -> 5 ticks , damage interval 4 -> 10 ticks, true damage instance 2 -> 4.
so it is
8 true damage per second
4 damage in 10 ticks 20 tps
8 damage
so with an 80 hp build you can take basically all of it
wanton dock
Well
You have to swap to the build before mist and heal all of that hp somehow
80 hp build for the rest of the fight would be ass
wanton dock
Not enough tho
deep fox
thats enough to just do mist with and tank like 20 hits
wanton dock
Rly
deep fox
uh
deep fox
it lasts for like 15s iirc
wanton dock
That sounds way more than 80hp could tank
deep fox
8x15 = 120
deep fox
you dont need to tank all of it
you can still dodge
its just that if you screw up you dont die and eat totem
slow drum
8 true damage per second
it’s 1.61s to eat a pome and each pome gives 20% absorp so each pome would need to give 12.88 absorp -> build needs 64.4 health
so you can actually put on the 80 health build and hold right on pomes
needs nine or ten pomes for the whole mist
but it’s just really funny
deep fox
i mean like
having 80 hp makes it so you cannot fail mist as long as you put more than 0 effort into it
wanton dock
fairly certain you can get more than that
slow drum
having 80 hp makes it so you cannot fail mist as long as you put more than 0 eff...
yeah but what if i do want to put 0 effort into it
slow drum
mist
deep fox
disconnect and reconnect
gaunt temple
-# it may be time to revert mist ;-;
deep fox
what if you made mist possible to no hit on high ping!!!!!!
just like give an indicator for the direction it changes.....
void crown
I'm not sure if it's been fully pointed out in this way, but the damage increase but tick rate reduction on paper seems to be about average, if not a nerf to the attack, but in practice you are likely only leaving the circle for a tiny amount of time before re-entering so in practice it ends up making you just take the increased damage at the same rate.
deep fox
does it increase time between the first hit after stepping out
if so its probably a nerf to the attack because you get half a second to get back in before you take damage
void crown
But there's gonna be more times where you were only out for 1 tick than you were for 2 ticks before
deep fox
idk its hard to compare because of how fast it moves now
wanton dock
lowkey i think mist would have absolutely no issues whatsoever had minecraft engine allowed a seemlessly moving circle
given how particles appear and disappear in these sorta pulses it complicates things a lot
icy raven
lowkey i think mist would have absolutely no issues whatsoever had minecraft eng...
Isn’t this possible with display entities
thorn arrow
i thought they disabled player collision
thorn arrow
it should be disabled server wide
void crown
How would we be able to push you into holes then?
thorn arrow
with witt and cunning
terse raven
chat it may be time to pull out the % true damage
what if instead its a bar that fills up when standing out of circle and you die when its full
no more weird antiheal thing
mental cloak
what if instead its a bar that fills up when standing out of circle and you die ...
cannot wait for this to instantly kill you through revive
polar narwhal
I dont think another whole new mechanic is necessary nor intuitive
fossil acorn
Atleast you do get to know when the ring is changing directions as it slows down a little bit
You can kinda just feel the change in direction
slow drum
disagree cause like how do you feel the change in direction
there’s a sound cue telling you it Does change
deep kayak
there’s a sound cue telling you it Does change
not everyone can hear that sound tho
mental cloak
Its pretty noticeable
The base sound is like a low rumbling and the change sound is a woosh
deep fox
i just walk in the opposite direction when i hear the sound and somehow that works a lot of the time
supple turtle
not everyone can hear that sound tho
How
supple turtle
I don't understand what u mean
long pond
He’s trying to say deaf people can’t hear the sound, on account of being deaf
supple turtle
what even deaf mean... nvm
grand shadow
if you are deaf u cant speak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
summer tusk
~~what even deaf mean...~~ nvm
💀
polar loom
I dont think another whole new mechanic is necessary nor intuitive
aloc acoc freeze bar in intruder
now
mental cloak
welcome back Death Bar Which Is Used In Like Several Bosses
deep fox
i think the problem is once you step out once you get hitstunned meaning you are very likely to get hit again if youre not fast or are kinda laggy
polar loom
welcome back Death Bar Which Is Used In Like Several Bosses
creeping mist (real)
slow drum
not everyone can hear that sound tho
wait like actually wdym
why can not everyone hear the sound
it’s a soft whoosh but it’s not particularly high pitched or anything
deep kayak
why can not everyone hear the sound
i sometimes play on muted
warm flint
time to enable subtitles
thorn arrow
i didn’t know there was a sound change
fossil acorn
there’s a sound cue telling you it Does change
There is????
I just know it’s going to change because I tell it’s going slower then before
It’s worked very consistently
thorn arrow
i usually take a couple ticks of dmg and just accept it
tranquil oyster
welcome back Death Bar Which Is Used In Like Several Bosses
close enough
welcome back Creeping Death
meager token
Managed to reach the final phase as Reaper, and then the game crashed thanks to Vanilla Minecraft Glow™️
The last elite is incredibly insufferable.
The first elite from the 3rd set is pretty annoying as well, because any damage it deals triggers a leap.
Thanks to the change to Prosecutor's Judgement Chain it has become a very simple Tormented.
Almost a pushover.
shy glacier
Managed to reach the final phase as Reaper, and then the game crashed thanks to ...
RIP. I have that issue as well. More specifically, my game still runs but the graphics freezes (graphics card issue lol). Interestingly, it only happens with certain glowing entities