SKR Feedback Thread

[true cave]

should i make a puzzles and riddle solver yes or no

[glacial gulch]

you should clarify what you meant in Shattered feedback post

but no

[white merlin]

I think its an absolutely great sign that the only thing being really discussed around skr is the money and loot situation. Shows that the content is universally very much enjoyed :D

[old flicker]

how

do we tell them

[remote nebula]

[rigid oyster]

Uh

[white merlin]

what did i miss

i thought we finally got content the playerbase enjoys

(also mind that i include drop rates as loot and money situation because they are heavily linked from what i can gather)

[rigid oyster]

U need to remember the playerbase is varied

Very few things will apply universally

[white merlin]

yeah its just what it feels like from trying read as much of this post as possible

like i have seen few critiques of the scroll or room system

[rigid oyster]

Also ppl hate button

[white merlin]

just the "basis" of skr seems well-received and im happy about that

[nova mango]

i dont thinj people are complaining about the content itself

just how rarely you get to play it

[orchid briar]

How to tell if content is enjoyable if i cant play it

Like there is nothing explicitly bad i can say about rooms themselves except button room

But i cant say its smth really amazing cuz its just not for right stage of progression despite being locked behind both sirius and cz

[eternal gale]

I have grinder

At least 4 hours of content

And I only got 1 scroll from pity

[agile crane]

grahh i want to play new content but i cant

[scenic ocean]

buy scroll , sell all reward , repeat

[tribal owl]

HAR sinkatron?

alternatively the scroll frag to scroll HAR price might help depending on the ratio of scroll to scroll frag in revamped rates.

[high trout]

easiest way to add har sink is to add a 1/10000 drop to casino

[glacial ivy]

On a side note

I think we fan safely say that portal nondaily droprate is 1/50

Which seems not allat bad ig.

[nova mango]

now grind pois to see the rates

[glacial ivy]

@nova mango hop on pois at 6pm ehen im home

[nova mango]

im doing them rn.,

[glacial ivy]

@nova mango did yo shift end already

?

[nova mango]

what

[glacial ivy]

Ur shift

Work thing or whatever

[nova mango]

im starting tomorrow......

[feral cliff]

it is more common than that tbh

[glacial ivy]

Xd

[primal stratus]

Dunno if this was brought up but the minesweeper puzzle having 50/50s is so silly. Real minesweeper doesn't have those because you can't logic them

[rigid oyster]

?

[high trout]

yea its not fun

[scarlet laurel]

me and 2 other guildmates were helping abtruse clear minesweeper and at the very end there was a 50/50 at the bottom middle of the board and he lost 😭

[rigid oyster]

Dont those exist in regular minesweeper

[feral cliff]

they do

(at least a quick google says they do)

[rigid oyster]

Confused by the “real minesweeper” thing then

[wary ivy]

They exist in like the windows minesweeper, but for good minesweepers it should be avoided as much as possible such that no guessing is required, but that's also somewhat at odds with randomly generating them. I have no clue, but I'd guess it'd be a lot more work to have "provably solvable random generated"

[tidal wing]

1/4 minesweeper free r1

[wicked bronze]

most real minesweeper doesnt

[glacial gulch]

wdym "real minesweeper"

[wicked bronze]

Minesweeper.com itself literally has separate guess/no guess game types

[feral cliff]

Categories of "Poi Difficulty"
(for determining scroll drop chances from end pinatas)
(chart contains a couple jokes)
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1134852913735421963/1346179235718365224/image.png?ex=67c73e9c&is=67c5ed1c&hm=fac2ec5cf7c12ebdb31ada8a1ff97ef207a2c38496afc009101163551ae86209&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1161&height=351

[glacial gulch]

the ones charging designed are also real

[wicked bronze]

I mean dedicated ways of playing minesweeper, not minesweeper on an mc server

[feral cliff]

I did not design minesweeper

or puzzles for that matter

[glacial gulch]

wtf is amped coven

[wicked bronze]

Coven can be amped??????

[wicked plinth]

big fan of operator tbh

the thinker

hello operator

[glacial ivy]

what is coven amped

[wicked plinth]

the mysterious coven ampd

[glacial gulch]

ok well the ones in monu are also real minesweeper, they're just in minecraft

[glacial ivy]

and what is drask bro

😭

[mortal tartan]

this is just schizophrenia

[wicked plinth]

the mysterious drask

[glacial gulch]

also we need harder operatiors man

[mortal tartan]

are you sure that's the right image

[glacial gulch]

they are too easy

you can literally brute force them

[wicked plinth]

maybe as its own thing

[feral cliff]

that image is mostly right

[wicked plinth]

because these like bar loot

[glacial ivy]

can u explain what the éklfgjekélgéjl is and amped coven and drask

[thorny wharf]

[feral cliff]

this is elifahoiuhe

[glacial ivy]

am too lazy

to loo kthrough

all the pois

[wicked plinth]

duodeviginti

[feral cliff]

the other two are

shit posts

[glacial ivy]

and figure out

[mortal tartan]

you also missed bewitched dominion

[leaden moth]

amped coven is running it at 2am with a coffee

[feral cliff]

oh I cut it off when I added frossoli I think

hold on let me fix

[wicked plinth]

amped coven is running it in Southern California

specifically in the LA region

[mortal tartan]

amped coven is blue

[leaden moth]

pretty sure the tree is green

[slender mortar]

I cant tell if thats shitpost or real

[feral cliff]

updated the image

its 95% real 5% shitpost

as all charging uv posts are

If we ever reworked Poi Stars in r3, they'd abide by this list I think

[slender mortar]

Im gonna presume amped coven is real

[glacial gulch]

ok so

• bewitched is missing
• drask (postcard)
• frossoliduopdeviginti

[thorny wharf]

It’s as real as real can be

[mortal tartan]

use the notion

[feral cliff]

fixed the first

[slender mortar]

And it will feature a Frogvisborea reference

[feral cliff]

use the notion

[glacial gulch]

drask i think is ex willows

[feral cliff]

What...

[slender mortar]

Why is drask in region 3

[feral cliff]

oh the

stoneborn giant

[slender mortar]

Monumenta rumbling?

End of times?

[white merlin]

he walked here

[glacial gulch]

by that logic fross is probly ex rev

[feral cliff]

anyway I am adding scrolls to fishing

[glacial gulch]

both bonus dungeons

[feral cliff]

but it will have to be new chests

[glacial gulch]

wait no fross would be in why-long if it's ex rev

[slender mortar]

@ frozenearth are you a pinata

[glacial gulch]

no

[slender mortar]

Shame

[feral cliff]

its a shitpost dont think too much about it

[rigid oyster]

I refuse

[glacial gulch]

i dont think he's young enough to be pinata'd by scp 956

[rigid oyster]

This is clearly an indigo teaser

[glacial gulch]

no

indigo isnt a poi

[rigid oyster]

We must overanalyze it

[feral cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/fewww-gif-27387782

[glacial gulch]

ok drask is ex willows confirmed

[rigid oyster]

Source?

[glacial gulch]

every other "dungeons"

wait

is indigo a fucking bonus dungeon like willows

what is indigo's like wording thing

like the theme

[slender mortar]

Frossoliduodēvīgintī is a reference to the dead god in the middle of the ring

[rigid oyster]

Ephemeral corridors is a poi

[glacial gulch]

that's techniocally a "strike" psure

also ec is like it's own categoy

[rigid oyster]

It is a poi

Magenta is also a quest zone

[thorny wharf]

👽

[slender mortar]

Im scared

[cursive sphinx]

Yeah there's no feasibly codable way that I'm aware of to randomly generate a minesweeper board and also totally avoid 50/50s. Generally "No Guess" minesweepers are initialy generated at random and then manually curated to either remove 50/50s or trash the board entirely

You could maybe try to code in a search for specific instances where a 50/50 would be likely, but I doubt it'd grab every possible case

[wary ivy]

The first thing that came to my mind was have a separate "solver" system, so it first randomly generates the puzzle, then solves it by programming traditional minesweeper logic and if it ever encounters a non-100% option before finishing it re-generates the puzzle. But then that sounds like it's a fast track to more issues, even with programming your own solver

However I think minesweeper is simple enough that finding a 50/50 and losing is fine to just play it again, but I might be slightly biased there 😅

[rigid oyster]

This is one method used

[dapper ether]

not a fan of puzzles in general so I wish for a free or cheap conversion to combat

[rigid oyster]

This is generally called “player trading” i think

[wary ivy]

1 frag 👍

[gleaming bloom]

arent puzzle scrolls more valuable than combat scrolls? you can sell one and buy a combat one with money remaining

[dapper ether]

supply and demand something something

[rigid oyster]

Given combat scrolls have like triple the droprate of puzzle scrolls

And puzzle scrolls are generally more desirable

[cursive sphinx]

I also am personally of the opinion that the ability to reset on the fly is a bit too easy to justify programing a solver to detect 50/50s

[rigid oyster]

Neither of those concepts are relevant here for your complaint

[cursive sphinx]

But I also think the same thing about first-click mines

They aren't hurting your time as you can just instantly reset and also its funny

[dapper ether]

hmm

anyways

should I make separate thread for charm balance, cause I posted my feedbacks here but they are buried

[feral cliff]

like specifically skr charm balance

?

[slender mortar]

If its skr charms than me think so since thats a jar of pickles

[feral cliff]

yeah either way honestly just new thread it

[worn sun]

Fox healing charm my beloved ❤️

[feral cliff]

if you can keep it from turning into a slop discussion I'll bring it up with the item guys when I am done fixing drop chances

[dapper ether]

yes, its at top

gonna write it in more detail

[gritty path]

that charm looked so booty

why would ij ever take it

-25% dmg

tbh i'd rather it is just a 2* with no downside

[worn sun]

dont have it so Im unsure how it works, but if that +5% healing means +1 hp heal (kinda like that one +hp infusion) then personally I'm definitely using it

hunting companion heal is so underrated

[cedar haven]

Surely 1/30 because I feel like I got atleast ten by now surely

I forget tho

[gleaming bloom]

lets run a large scale statistical trial to spite the developers and figure out the real rates with sheer sample size alone

[feral cliff]

I will start randomly changing it in hotfixes

[wispy swan]

do not the wynncraft

[nova mango]

have we considered tracking all the runs we have done.....

i feel like weve done enough runs to get somewhat accurate results

[mortal tartan]

idk if minesweeper is in mechs or plugins but if its in mechs then thats probably an instant no lol

[silver lake]

all puzzles are in mechs

[nova mango]

az what if isntead of typing on discord you tried fixing gallery..

[mortal tartan]

yeah i cant imagine a solver is super feasible then

[vapid bane]

the approaching 1500 line mech abomination

[feral cliff]

Remnant cache cost is going up to 8 or 10 I think

[remote nebula]

sounds good

[feral cliff]

chance of a rare in a cache is doubling

and silver dust is lowering a bit

scroll frags are now 2-3 rather than 1-2 but I might go 3-4 instead

[silver lake]

for those curious: 1201 combat rooms have been cleared (includes sequence's long) and 479 puzzle rooms

[cursive sphinx]

Minesweeper has no where near 1500 lines 😛

[vapid bane]

thankfully, I think a 1500 line mech might kill me

[gleaming bloom]

consider pinning this and the messages below

or maybe adding it to the already pinned message with changes next week

[feral cliff]

no I will write something proper

I am just sending some loose ideas so that if someone thinks its stupid theres the most time to say that is stupid

[gleaming bloom]

alr then

[feral cliff]

most delusional statement I've ever written I think

[gleaming bloom]

I like how rares are more common in caches. The corresponding price increase makes sense, but i just wanna say that it might feel bad to do a whole combat/puzzle room and not get enough for a cache. thats as long as the scrolls will not be made MUCH more common. im still not sure what rough idea of scroll rarity you got in mind

[feral cliff]

yeah I am kinda worried about that too (not enough for caches)

[gleaming bloom]

you could always increase chest count

[feral cliff]

I could but that kind of puts us back in square 1

[gleaming bloom]

i, for one, live for the ding sound i have when i click a chest

[feral cliff]

like what was the point in increasing cost at that point

[cedar haven]

Na bro this varnish guy c gonna make it inaccurate

[feral cliff]

im increasing daily rates by roughly 10-20% with some eyeballing on the margins. I'm also adding Fragments as potential drops when you dont get a scroll

[rigid oyster]

First figure out what the average from 1 scroll is?

[cedar haven]

This sounds great

[feral cliff]

I dont have exact numbers because I am still making things up as i go

but they are more rooted in reality

also Skt / fishing are getting drops

[gleaming bloom]

heard its 5-15 from puzzle, 6-(?) from combat?

[silver lake]

puzzles are getting lowered

[feral cliff]

Normal Combats always give at least 6 chests

[cedar haven]

Not hexfall 😭

[glacial gulch]

guh

[feral cliff]

hexfall is fake

[rigid oyster]

Its 4 minimum from puzzle which feels kinda bad

[cedar haven]

But it’s a raid like skt 💔💔

[feral cliff]

going to standardize puzzles to 5/6/7 ish

[glacial gulch]

lf more find the buttons actually

wait

az

[silver lake]

dont know what to do with lower puzzles but i thought of having shuffle + logic in the same room

[glacial gulch]

make more ftb rooms

plz

[silver lake]

find the button is going to 7 max at 3 buttons

[rigid oyster]

That sounds fine i guess if scroll rates r being buffed

[feral cliff]

Find me 20 people who would want to add that to the list and I will consider it

[gleaming bloom]

anyway i still think doing a whole room and not getting enough for a cache (or the option to buy it) feels bad, unless you make scrolls so easy to get you can reliably do 2 in one day by just doing some dailes /weeklies

[glacial gulch]

wtf stop giving rewards to find the button

just make torture device

[cedar haven]

Find the button only has 11 after u get first clear so atp just do combat and fish for the normal room with 10 chests

[rigid oyster]

If scroll rates are being buffed its probably fine, besides the 4 room

[silver lake]

can just put it at 5 then idk

30 second rooms are soulless

[rigid oyster]

personally i would kinda like the puzzles to maybe be doubled for some of them slider puzzle and irrus puzzle

[feral cliff]

this is my worry.. theoretically once you get your 2nd you can kind of almost get one every room after because some frags are carrying over. But we will have to see

might end up Week 2 tuning that but I am getting ahead of myself

still wnt this to be a rare/passive thing afterall

[cedar haven]

Yeah the slider ones really easy

[feral cliff]

being first content post freeze is making this tricky

[rigid oyster]

Do scrolls still drop from caches?

[feral cliff]

yeah

rarely

[cedar haven]

I think operator and minesweeper and tower are perfect rn

[silver lake]

@feral cliff what if we halved loot and then halved cache price

[feral cliff]

but frags +1 if you dont get a scroll

[feral cliff]

huh

[rigid oyster]

I would kinda prefer that be removed personally, if it would allow rates to be normalized elsewhere

[silver lake]

tower is unfortunately going to get lowered because it takes 10 seconds to use a solver..

[cedar haven]

Yeah

That’s fine

[silver lake]

lower the loot in caches to the point where we can have guaranteed caches per comp

[gleaming bloom]

you could:

• decrease har/pdia reward from cache
• increase rare prices, introduce a rare->pdia trade
• make the cache cost around what youd expect to get in one run
• introduce more scroll frags, so that it feeds into more caches
  This leads to doing SKR leading to more SKR and more minor rewards. At some point when youve got the rares, you want to sell mats instead of trading for cache. Also, the larger amount of scroll frags means you can chain SKRs more often, and sell the frags to people who want to do them more often.

[cedar haven]

Same for minesweeper tho I just meant in length

[feral cliff]

I want more opinions on this me thinks

[feral cliff]

I am very scared of getting close to skr looping into more skr but theoretically could work

since a lot of the money in that chest is balanced around rarity rather than content difficulty

[glacial gulch]

no cuz that makes skr like its own content

[gleaming bloom]

this is alarge misconception ive had all this time...

i thought it was supposed to be more common tbh

[feral cliff]

it is hoard adjacent

[wispy swan]

increase rare prices, introduce a rare->pdia trade
this would be hella cool cause you can't do absolutely anything with shit rares rn

[rigid oyster]

Personally i dont like caches dropping scrolls idk

[gleaming bloom]

and it was very enjoyable when i played it so i would have wanted to play it more (it was also very short)

[feral cliff]

The issue is people need it more common on a big release

[cedar haven]

Yeah for how rare it is currently the pdias it makes is not going to impact the market

Yeah that too

[vapid bane]

much loot at once -> big dopamine -> addiction -> good design

[feral cliff]

elaborate please

[silver lake]

truth

[white merlin]

tbf im kind of not a fan because if youre sitting on a few mats but cant buy it feels quite rewarding to get "yippee i can finally buy it" instead of "every skr is a cache or two"

[silver lake]

but also

less dopamine on comp cuz u cant get cache

idk its a weird balance

[feral cliff]

true maybe

[feral cliff]

saving up

Not doing it for now

[glacial gulch]

-> finished all content -> craves for more content -> player drop

[feral cliff]

might player poll for week 2

[silver lake]

we probably should put pzuzle and combat at a 50 50 @feral cliff

people seem to want to do puzzles I thinlk

[feral cliff]

Sure

lets do that

well

hm

60/40

?

[silver lake]

50/50 I think really

[glacial gulch]

no

[silver lake]

you also need both for sequence

[glacial gulch]

75/25 is fine

[rigid oyster]

I dont like the gambling encouragement its introducing with having a 100+ har jackpot reward

[high trout]

if there was an endless mode for skr that yielded 0 rewards I would still play it

[glacial gulch]

75/25 creates a bottleneck for puzzle scrolls

[nova mango]

all of smoke (definetly 20 people)

[feral cliff]

you are genuinely fake people bro

[silver lake]

wtf

[nova mango]

WHAT

[feral cliff]

exceptions are

[nova mango]

guildcism

[feral cliff]

czard

carnish

[rigid oyster]

Youve kinda essentially stacked a casino on top of your content w sequence scrolls dropping directly

[feral cliff]

and az one

the rest are fake

[feral cliff]

I see

[silver lake]

damn

[remote nebula]

schizophrenia

[high trout]

but thats what makes mmorpgs addicting 🥺

[nova mango]

please dont be rude to my pookie jhil ...

[feral cliff]

never talked to him in my life

[nova mango]

or oxzy ...

[feral cliff]

you are schizo jhil is fake

oxzy is fake

wake up czard

[glacial gulch]

waaaaaa

[high trout]

skrs are fake

scrolls don't exist

[silver lake]

oxzy is fake thats true

[rigid oyster]

I like scroll drops being a mini jackpot bonus from doing normal content

[glacial gulch]

wait charing whats your opinion on long puzzle rooms

*charging

[nova mango]

if that means losing jhil then id rather stay asleep 💔

[silver lake]

need puzzle ideas

[vapid bane]

smoke vid exposing charging coming next monday

[feral cliff]

someone would need to make them

[glacial gulch]

or MN can give me answers thats also cool

[nova mango]

tower of hanoi

[silver lake]

what is that czad

[gleaming bloom]

puzzle room where you play against a 1700 elo chess bot

[glacial gulch]

just make bigger versions of the current puzzl

[feral cliff]

what if i moved sequence from rem scrolls to a 1/2000 from any place scrolls can drop

wow that is slop

kill me

[rigid oyster]

But i feel like sequence drops stacking 2 layers of rng + a really huge payout takes it a bit too far

[feral cliff]

pretend I never said that

[nova mango]

look it up.

[glacial gulch]

surely people would enjoy 50x50 minesweeper or like 15 operator puzzles

[silver lake]

limbo with 80 cubes

[feral cliff]

I will remove it from the drops

[nova mango]

can we make limbo puzzle harder for more chests

[high trout]

not really puzzle but a parkour where the platforms disappear and appear when you jump ✍️

[feral cliff]

Az add mobs to limbo

[white merlin]

worst puzzle in the world

do not

[feral cliff]

that give you nausia

[rigid oyster]

I’d prefer it maybe be turned into more remnants or allocated towards cache price budget maybe, personally

[feral cliff]

nausea

[nova mango]

hater!!!

[vapid bane]

I think it is cool

[white merlin]

its not even a puzzle its just the same thing each time 😭

[high trout]

its a puzzle, just not repeatable one

[glacial gulch]

i think it's not cool that you get 50har because lucky

[feral cliff]

me staring at the gtp ticket across the room

[glacial gulch]

(we dont talk about hoard)

[feral cliff]

me staring at the CZ charms

me staring at the hoard

[glacial gulch]

ok idea

[vapid bane]

I think hoard is cool

[feral cliff]

Past Sins justify Sins of the future

[glacial gulch]

what if replace it with dormant version

[feral cliff]

I could vibe with this

[rigid oyster]

Im ok with that

[glacial gulch]

middle ground

[feral cliff]

@rigid oyster thoughts

oh gg

[high trout]

what if we just like added gpts and leg zenith charms into skr caches to add even more rng ✍️

[feral cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/cillianmurphygun-cillianmurphy-jazmincoded-gif-3811002643797340103

okay I think I have enough input

I am going to write up some changelogs

and finish the new drop chances

@silver lake reply to my dm about goobspore

[silver lake]

i did..?

[nova mango]

checkmate liberal.

[feral cliff]

what where

[high trout]

did hapon's messages get thanos snapped or did they delete them by theirselves

[feral cliff]

I didnt delete shit

[silver lake]

this puzzle sucks @nova mango

[nova mango]

mad cuz bad.

[silver lake]

@cursive sphinx what if you implemented the tff puzzle i love that one

[feral cliff]

Az where did you reply bro

[rigid oyster]

Did u see my comment about the locum gate

[white merlin]

Beaten by an object...

[nova mango]

that was literally tower of hanoi except 8 towers.

[glacial gulch]

i strongly hate and strongly dislike calling tower of hanoi a "puzzle"

[silver lake]

yes and with 3 towers its glorpshit

[white merlin]

then its not towers of hanoi anymore 😭

3 towers is just repeated bs

[nova mango]

you not fixing gallery is glorpshit.

[glacial gulch]

im sure any of the devs can literally code an answer to it

[white merlin]

it doesnt even get fun on more layers

[feral cliff]

does sirius deserve the same chances as godspore

[glacial gulch]

no

[feral cliff]

my gut says sirius should be rarer

[nova mango]

is gs repeatable infinitely

[glacial gulch]

wait is sirius < gs rn?

[nova mango]

i still dont know

[high trout]

does sirius have lower chance than godspore

[feral cliff]

yes it has a slop rate

slop = infinitely repeatable

[nova mango]

then it should have a slightly lower rate

since its both faster and doesnt have a loot cap

[feral cliff]

okay

dailies

?

[glacial gulch]

dailies are fine

[high trout]

huh isn't sirius capped at 8 loot chests per day

[feral cliff]

inverse I think sirius feels free

[feral cliff]

he was talking about goobspore

[high trout]

oh

[glacial gulch]

maybe dailies should be slightly more cuz it's max 1, period

[silver lake]

my steadfast tank set says true

[feral cliff]

sirius lower daily than goobspore but goobspore lower slop rate than sirius I think

since sirius doesnt have a real slop rate its just 8 uncommons

[onyx dune]

that makes sense

[glacial gulch]

so rn it's sirius > daily > gs?

[feral cliff]

rn both are equal

[glacial gulch]

sirius = daily > gs ic

[rigid oyster]

Wait why would sirius be rarer

[glacial gulch]

i think daily >= sirius > gs cuz daily is 1 cap

[feral cliff]

I would propose this
sirius daily < godspore daily
sirius uncommon > godspore uncommon

[rigid oyster]

Its both capped and uh post version change sirius is fucking scary

[feral cliff]

what did version change change

[glacial gulch]

why sirius > gs daily

• <

*<

[onyx dune]

sirius is awesome because you can just afk the boss fight and get rewarded with scroll chances at the end

[feral cliff]

sirius is kind of free

[glacial gulch]

no

[silver lake]

impaling doom display blocks point diagonally

[rigid oyster]

Its laggier

[glacial gulch]

not if you have 15 people afking with minmax blizzard

[feral cliff]

?>???

what the fuck

is this shit real?

[cedar haven]

Racism?!

[nova mango]

does it change anything

i thought it was just visuak

[feral cliff]

how is this even

like allowed

[silver lake]

it doesnt change anything its ok im trolling

[old flicker]

like earthen tremor did

[glacial gulch]

yes but like particles are fine so nobody bothered to report it

[silver lake]

but it like

nukes tps

i am Pretty sure

[glacial gulch]

it's literally just a visual bug

[feral cliff]

???????

[silver lake]

last sirius half the time was on 9 tps

[nova mango]

does this outrage mean you are a smoke member

[remote nebula]

i fucking thought it was intentional and the directions were random to make it more visually interesting

[high trout]

[remote nebula]

[silver lake]

cuz it casted aura and impaling doom at the same time

[cedar haven]

My game freezes when I use earthen tremor with the new charm💔 💔

[high trout]

me too 😂

[nova mango]

only time i see sirius lagging the shard is when im not in the sirius

[rigid oyster]

Anyway in seriousness, pub siriuses are seriously laggy and doing stuff when blight walls are all over the place for way longer is actually kinda annoying

[feral cliff]

this god damn infernal gif!!!!

why are you so infatuated by it

why does it call to you

[high trout]

bro its an emoji

[feral cliff]

should it be closed

or?

[nova mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1171462320690581556/1258241809990287370/image0-2-2.gif

[glacial gulch]

fucking patrons shit

[feral cliff]

I have not played a sirius since february last year

so I had no idea

[rigid oyster]

Probably not

[silver lake]

i think it didnt help

[rigid oyster]

Its doable its just more annoying

[silver lake]

that skr was memory leaking

[onyx dune]

it's not unplayably laggy

[silver lake]

yesterday

not yesterday, on release *

[feral cliff]

okay

we should keep tabs on that

[rigid oyster]

The main thing is whenever u have to do other things like shoot down stars or chase down crown blights

[feral cliff]

should godspore slop be better than strike slop I wonder

[rigid oyster]

The arena is now divided apart by walls that are barely moving

So u need way more movespeed

[onyx dune]

godspore entry cost is higher

if that means anything

[high trout]

[glacial gulch]

gs entry cost is 2.5 har flat

sirius is 3har + 4mats, idk what youre on about

[rigid oyster]

They said strikes

[old flicker]

not if you actually get the mats

for gs

like a real monumentaer

[feral cliff]

also per player cost

[glacial gulch]

where did they mention mr or portal

wtf

[feral cliff]

not just flat

[feral cliff]

.

[onyx dune]

here

[white merlin]

the 50 vibrant hollow mats in my ec 🔥

[rigid oyster]

This clearly says strike

[nova mango]

godspore slop rate is very sloppy

[white merlin]

id say yes because its not like anyone plays godspore right now it would definetely help

[glacial gulch]

ok fair

[nova mango]

brainless effortless runs

[glacial gulch]

holy shit sudden u turn in topics tho

[rigid oyster]

Godspore happens like every half an hour in lfg idk what u mean

[glacial gulch]

but gs = strike rates

[nova mango]

when iw as running with cq they were like 3.5m with everyone in the team being barely alive

[rigid oyster]

A lot of ppl doing it for dailies

[glacial gulch]

because gs is retryable

[feral cliff]

Thinking Ruin > skt> godspore > portal for slop rates

With pois mixed in at every stage there

[glacial gulch]

mr if you die you die

mmmmmmm

[nova mango]

skt should have highest rates

by a bit

[rigid oyster]

Wait why is skt on that list

[feral cliff]

you are right maybe

[glacial gulch]

cuz skt is repeatable

[rigid oyster]

I thought skt wasnt going on it at all

[white merlin]

wtf i didnt see more than 10 gs a month before scrolls started dropping

[rigid oyster]

Yeah but its a dgn isnt it

Whats it being classified as now

[nova mango]

since ruin is way easier and takes less when optimised

[glacial gulch]

sskt > nskt >= gs == ruin >>> portal imo

[nova mango]

raid dungeon

jsut like hexfall ..

[feral cliff]

me

bias

[rigid oyster]

R u going to make hexfall drop scrolls too then

[feral cliff]

I dont know

[high trout]

hexfall should give guaranteed scroll if the whole team has zero comps ✍️
-# this is a joke pls don't smite me

[nova mango]

ruin is harder than gs and gs is retryable so i feel like mr should have better chances

[glacial gulch]

but gs is more expensive/more effort to get the key

[nova mango]

you already get like 4pdias on first comp....

[glacial gulch]

mr you just "buy"

[onyx dune]

idk how fast portal goes but godspore there seems like the most efficient one to spam

[white merlin]

nobody will remember this.

[feral cliff]

like 2 min apparently

[onyx dune]

is godspore even profit after daily key if you're buying materials raw

[glacial gulch]

ive seen portal runners do it in like 2:30 per portal

[nova mango]

ig but cheaper when you consider splitting amongst a full team

since gs is ~24ar and mr 10-11

[onyx dune]

that's scary

[glacial gulch]

yeah but what's the chance you're dying in a mr speedrun

not to mention that they'd probly kick you if you're dying too much

[nova mango]

(ask carnish) in a speedrun probably low but that shouldnt be the only thing to consider since grinders are not the only players

[feral cliff]

slop score is essentially for the grinders to be honest

how many portals does a non grinder do in a day

that isnt daily

[nova mango]

400

[glacial gulch]

why dont we just reduce slop chance to 0 so that we remove grinders

[feral cliff]

czard that number feels like a lie

[nova mango]

perchance

[worn sun]

0 🔥

[feral cliff]

honestly

[glacial gulch]

0 or 1 but probly 0

[onyx dune]

in here when you say scroll fragments from pois do you mean poi chests or only piñata

[glacial gulch]

wrong reply fuck

mb

[feral cliff]

nothing drops from poi chests. I am adding frags to weekly, I might add to pinata. I havent figured out what kind of pinata changes I want yet

[high trout]

honestly, treasure wheel should have a chance to yield some scroll frags

[worn sun]

super tiny chance to find frags from poi chests, but not from pinata 🥺

[glacial gulch]

grinding single strike for skr scrolls just reminds me of hsb f7's and i do not like it a single bit

[worn sun]

o

[onyx dune]

in a group i think poi farming might end up be the most efficient scroll method

[nova mango]

did grinding a single strike before not remind you of that?

[glacial gulch]

i never grinded one striek for more than once

[high trout]

there was no rng drops back then

[nova mango]

hoard keys...............

[high trout]

aside from black mist

[nova mango]

and bm grinding was a thing back in the day........

also like cz frush speedruns or smth

[glacial gulch]

the closed i gotten to is some random emily (forgot ign) hosting boss maras at 2am and getting yelled at

[nova mango]

also rng drops and doing the same thing too much

[worn sun]

actually
what if we added submarines to skt and you could liek
ride a submarine into mobs and dive into those funny poison ponds

skt fishing with unique loot table

[glacial gulch]

wtf

stop adding more jobs to charging

[nova mango]

make it the submarine from ocean gate

[glacial gulch]

theyre already dying

[feral cliff]

please take the schizophrenic eddie roleplaying to #gameplay-discussion

[nova mango]

shimmy shimmy yay shimmy yay shimmy ya

[high trout]

what if killing juan gave you 100 sequence scrolls

[old flicker]

monarch is alive, silver knight lore is booming, skr is getting charged to its peak

[glacial gulch]

which juan

the one from cz?

[high trout]

the one in galengrade

[glacial gulch]

?

it's unkillable no?

[feral cliff]

monarch living is like

actually peak

[old flicker]

there is a juan in galen

[worn sun]

skr fishing could unironically go hard tho

[high trout]

thats the joke

[feral cliff]

however I thought about him playing skr last night and died a bit inside

[high trout]

[worn sun]

saw monarch in locum today I think

[glacial gulch]

remove redundant code rule in coding is gonna get rid of that

[worn sun]

maybe unlocking hexfall

[glacial gulch]

wait does hexfall add skr scrolls

drop

[feral cliff]

no

just skt I think

if im asked why I'll reply get it twisted

get it bent

[worn sun]

please never let hexfall drop scrolls 🙏

[onyx dune]

if the scroll chances only happen at the piñata why can't people just spawner rush "tier 5" pois at 0pt over and over to roll piñata chances. assuming they're higher rates than some infinitely repeatable content this would be super efficient no?

[feral cliff]

pinatas are a slop rate

if someone really wants to do that idk let them I guess

[high trout]

[onyx dune]

but it does scale with players right

[feral cliff]

to the same extent that strike loot rooms do

[nova mango]

did this today for a bit and it was pretty bad

[onyx dune]

oh i had no idea strikes did that too

[nova mango]

but it was duo ig

[feral cliff]

I mean like

you get a loot room per player

its rolled individually each time

[cedar haven]

Did like 30-40 quelled and got none with two people

[feral cliff]

same thing for pinatas in theory

[onyx dune]

okay yeah nvm pinatas are very low chances

[high trout]

gosh

[feral cliff]

yeah pinatas rates are kind of abysmal dogshit right now even with scaling

so I might just add some frags

[rigid oyster]

Frags r good

[onyx dune]

quelled convent is a really quick poi with spawner rush but yeah portal or godspore would just be better to do

[rigid oyster]

i like frags

[nova mango]

i think we have different standards if you think its fast..

even with how dense the poi is 180 spawners is a whole lot

[worn sun]

silvic is the quickest poi in r3 👍

[feral cliff]

maybe if you can amass 8 players

for convent

[onyx dune]

i was able to spawner rush solo clear it in like 7 minutes. that felt somewhat fast

[nova mango]

then you would have to split scrolls with 8 people...

[cerulean turtle]

In situations like this, you'd get more scrolls by having it delved and getting the normal chests just so you could then buy the scrolls off market

[silver lake]

didnt charging make pois player scale

[feral cliff]

which is the same thing happening in strikes since each loot room is individual

[silver lake]

pois are basically 8 people in one lootroom

charging

[nova mango]

is it not what az said

if scrolls drop inside pinatas

[feral cliff]

hold on let me catch up

[nova mango]

then thats 8 people sharing the chest that can drop the scroll

[feral cliff]

yea but its also scaling up to 8

[nova mango]

instead of each rolling their own odds

[rigid oyster]

Its kad who was arguing for doing pois with multiple players without considering that u have to split loot, not czad

[silver lake]

is it delve scaling or 2 ppl = x2

[feral cliff]

its not delve scaling its base loot scaling I think

[nova mango]

more people is definetly better but it gets to a point

[onyx dune]

scrolls appear inside the piñatas? i thought they were rolled as a chance when the piñata and put into player inventories. that makes a lot more sense now

[feral cliff]

scrolls drop inside pinatas

they are just a loot table

added

[nova mango]

also thought they would just appear in your inv

[feral cliff]

wouldnt that be a bit weird

[onyx dune]

not really imo

[nova mango]

since that would fix the multiple people sharing 1 scroll "issue"

[onyx dune]

yeah^

[high trout]

The trailer was false advertisement

With the funky animation

[feral cliff]

I mean in multi it should scale up and average out over multiple runs

[nova mango]

with a chat message it wouldnt be that weird

[glacial gulch]

mfw america does this all the time:

[feral cliff]

the only difference is the super picks someone for you instead of the players

[onyx dune]

this especially made me believe it worked by giving it to player inventories

[slender mortar]

Looking at the pins, what is "skt caches"

[glacial gulch]

wait monu server is in canada nvm

[high trout]

Probably typo

[feral cliff]

typo

[glacial gulch]

🔥

[feral cliff]

supposed to say SKT scrolls

[onyx dune]

isnt that still wrong

[high trout]

Fire

[slender mortar]

So SKT is supposedly to drop scrolls now?

[nova mango]

what if it said hexfall scrolls instead

[feral cliff]

no

[nova mango]

🥺

[feral cliff]

I am not adding scrolls to hexfal

[nova mango]

☹️

[old flicker]

but it would be lore accurate

[feral cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/659632359066435594/1341885876468318370/hycenneaball.gif

[burnt pulsar]

SKT is literally set in r2 …………

[old flicker]

but its lore accurate

[slender mortar]

What content is supposed to drop SK scrolls now im out of the loop

[feral cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-jk-simmons-fletcher-whiplash-cut-it-gif-18304600

[feral cliff]

adding fishing, and SKT

not adding hexfall

[slender mortar]

Interesting choice to include SKT

[old flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/754490987069308959/1341903874491027526/wegg.gif

[high trout]

Can we make this a sticker 🥺

[burnt pulsar]

no

[high trout]

[feral cliff]

what do you think about it

as with everything it is subject to opinions

[high trout]

Skt kinda makes sense from lore sense I think

[burnt pulsar]

It's thematic but it feels silly to include skt and not hexfall

[feral cliff]

well

hexfall bosses

[onyx dune]

well hexfall is technically still thematic

[feral cliff]

are something else

they dont need more money as a reward

[slender mortar]

I gotta catch up to the conversation here, but personally I'm mixed in adding SKT as part of scroll drops. I get that its lore sense (hahah sk) but that is its own content

[high trout]

Surely one day we can drop scrolls from zenith

[feral cliff]

I may hold off on skt

[burnt pulsar]

Me thinks now that hexfall has liferoot sapling as a low chance unique drop skt can get a low chance unique drop (IN TERMS OF RAIDS)

[feral cliff]

I dont have good justification other than my gut

[slender mortar]

I dont have a real justification either if it makes you feel better

[feral cliff]

its not even a lore thing

[silver lake]

skt is not hexfall

👍

[slender mortar]

Just on the basis that its a "overworld" replayability content

[onyx dune]

i mean if it's jsut an extra drop chance for the skt weekly clear i feel like that's completely fine

[slender mortar]

And well skt isnt really part of overworld

[feral cliff]

that is fair

[silver lake]

truth

[slender mortar]

But so arent strike and kangspore so

[feral cliff]

strikes and galleries arent either and the line is fuzzy

so idfk

flipping a coin

head yes

tails no

[old flicker]

hey there @high trout look at the meme i made
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1136763017950937179/1346237712432365628/AzBHXJRrdQhEAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC.png?ex=67c77512&is=67c62392&hm=565cc75cdd9520e890f9d54f95c5a8c47b720cac677114c8f758eaf821c16a69&

[silver lake]

just no hexfall and cz

and life is savd

[slender mortar]

Does godspore drop scrolls atm?

[onyx dune]

ya

[slender mortar]

Interesting

[silver lake]

charging your coins are fucking rigged

[feral cliff]

refraining on skt for week 1

will consider for week 2

[slender mortar]

Nah capital G foretold these event

[feral cliff]

get it twisted

[slender mortar]

Twisted coin

[feral cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/ea-nasir-bad-copper-bad-copper-cuneiform-gif-14018688914056665713

[high trout]

Bro yoinking my memes

[rigid oyster]

I hope we get a better weekly/daily menu one day

Is skt weekly even displayed anywhere

[low jetty]

the Dungeons list in peb

[wary ivy]

No one mentioned it earlier before I caught up, but with increasing cache cost and not having enough frags to buy one from your first clear, you could just increase the amount given to you in the quest so your first SKR clear should always give at least 1 cache

[true cave]

can portable gatecharm be used with armory

because i(and many others) have like 3 cases of lesser and upgraded charms

[worthy pivot]

is that a question for the current functionality or a suggestion

[feral cliff]

planned implementation I believe

[worthy pivot]

atm it does not work with armory

[worthy pivot]

HUGE?

[feral cliff]

wait I think

[worthy pivot]

SMALL?

[feral cliff]

let me confirm with @low jetty

[worthy pivot]

UNDETERMINED?

[low jetty]

maybe

[scarlet laurel]

must. find. all. button. locations.

[low jetty]

I'm not gonna hard confirm anything but it's on my radar

[worthy pivot]

🥺

[cursive sphinx]

Sure but give me a room build 😛

We need a galos themed puzzle room tbh

[low jetty]

and if I do, I want to make sure it's implemented right. :)

[true cave]

well if it does that it should be an epic imo

but uh thats huge

i was worried about what deen told me the other day

"if everyone hoards lesser charms theres no reason to hoard them now since they arent going to be worth hoarding"

[rigid oyster]

is this something

[glacial gulch]

"If everyone hoards har there's no reason to hoard them now since they aren't going to be worth hoarding"

[true cave]

no theres a bottom price to lesser charms

and u can frag them

which is more convenient

[glacial gulch]

Exactly so there's a point in hoarding them

[true cave]

you just lose some money by them being able to sell

[true cave]

but if everyone does it

no one will buy off of you

[glacial gulch]

Why would I sell

[true cave]

so once you have like 15 theres no point

because they are worthless if u dont either sell or use

and u can only use so many

[glacial gulch]

No they have a base value of 2 at

ar

Why would you hoard them as har when hoarding them as charms may increase the value above 2 ar

[low jetty]

🤷

[rigid oyster]

err what exactly triggers the heal on the evoker elite

[rigid oyster]

hate not knowing if i've gotten every chest

[cedar haven]

It’s only a negative to people who collected charms before the update (me

[true cave]

hey it can save you some equip cases soon

[cedar haven]

It’s useful to be able to buy any charm without annoyance

Yeah that’s a great thing

It was why I was gonna buy it before I learnt

Maybe just me but I’m kinda confused as to why it was an artifact and costing quite low for what it will do

[worthy pivot]

because imo

it's a bag of holding expansion disguised as a separate item

not everything needs to be an epic and with the nature of SKR I'd prefer it to be relatively inexpensive

[warm pebble]

kinda wish it could also hold rare charms, literally like 1/4 of my echest is charm storage 😭

[true cave]

its not that low if you consider mat prices 😭

[warm pebble]

yea fairs

the mats are some of the most expensive but fastest to grind

like doing skr wise not getting scrolls wise

[true cave]

yeah true

getting scrolls 😭

[warm pebble]

on release i thinkn i got spoiled too much with 2 weeklies worth of scrolls

[true cave]

yes same

i did 2 weeks worth in 2 days

now i can only do daily bounty portal mr gs sirius

and like hope for a scroll but if i dont get it nothing surprising

[warm pebble]

i like the incentive to log on and do your dailies outside of just 1 pdia it feels quite fresh, bummer that it released by itself and apart from other large contents

[true cave]

new content soon.... surely

[warm pebble]

surely

[true cave]

but yeah i actually need to do stuff now

[low jetty]

This is not going to happen because it would be a data space concern. Normal charms is already potentially a LOT of space.

That restriction was established on the get-go when I started making the item.

(oh and then the "charms" tag in armory would immediately be outclassed if/when armory integration is added :P)

[rigid oyster]

Storing charms in portable gate is more data intensive than storing them in shulkers? Why

[low jetty]

couldn't tell you exactly but

• higher amount of items can be stored than just in a shulker
• in terms of rare charms, content generally adds them - meaning that each update there would be more and more that can be added

There's also definitely less of a reason to charmbag rare charms, you aren't going to get nearly as much that'd make it worth hoarding

(unless you're in TCL)

And I swear if someone asks about storing Zenith charms in there...

[mortal tartan]

/mh i put 1000 zenith charms in gatecharm and now i cant log onto the server fix it NOW. dont erase any of the charms though i paid one morbillion har for them

[low jetty]

[eternal gale]

/mh reopen gallery now

[true cave]

isnt it the same as multiple shulkers that hold them? although there are 152 rn

but then theres 452 lesser/upgraded charms

wait how are u even storing 452

can i ask how storing data works

[low jetty]

magic

[true cave]

ok...

[rigid oyster]

I’d assume ppl would want to hold 1 of every charm in it for armoury convenience or something

Effectively treating it as an XL equipment case for charms

[mortal tartan]

if it doesn't already, can you make it show the total number of all charms in it

i want to be tempted by the prospect of withdrawing them all and pcrys'ing them and knowing how much money i'll get

[primal stratus]

Why’s this a concern with charms but not bag of hoarding?

[ornate light]

boh data is stored on player and not item
Once you purchased boh you can access the menu through exp bucket, piggy bank, etc

[rigid oyster]

Limited amount of currencies

196 currencies vs 644 charms for reference

[ornate light]

If you ever get 2 boh, you’d found them stacking together which means they have the same nbt
It’s just an interface

[rigid oyster]

Er charmbag does this too

[ornate light]

Oh

[low jetty]

yeah this is a big part of it

and including rare charms would be, what, +8 each time content comes out generally?

isn't a lot but it adds up

[low jetty]

I'd have to look into this, could probably do it. That would be interesting

[rigid oyster]

Only 177 of them are rare+ tho

You’re still gonna have to handle that 467 charms are gonna go into that bag

Ppl like having 1 of every currency in BoH

Those same ppl are 100% gonna put 467 charms into the charmbag

[primal stratus]

Can’t you just like separate the data in the db by class and then load them depending on page

[true cave]

could just allocate like 1k slots

[primal stratus]

Idk I don’t do Minecraft coding too much

[true cave]

like its already 470 slots

[rigid oyster]

To be fair, the number of non-rare charms will likely not being going up given we already have all the variations possible, while the number of rare charms will only ever go up

[true cave]

but i cant know if it works

because honeypint apparently says its stored using magic...

[eternal gale]

💀

[low jetty]

I mean, it is a portal...

[eternal gale]

@feral cliff whats the variance of the chance for scroll in poi depended on the diffculty ( like 2x common from t1 to t5?)

[feral cliff]

not quite that high

[eternal gale]

💀

[snow wharf]

i mean like

the time investment isnt that far

[feral cliff]

maybe its just forsaken manor propaganda

[snow wharf]

the why-long category is actually a lot longer

but its like 2 minute diff between super short and long

so lol

[eternal gale]

[feral cliff]

theoretically your best time investment is in medium / long

but I also made that up

so who knows

[eternal gale]

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-source-i-made-it-up-sauce-take-that-gif-26625795

[feral cliff]

I have made everything up really

if you think about it

[true cave]

if u think about it

nadir is a 3 minute poi

[eternal gale]

im still waiting gallery reopen to test its scroll chance

[eternal gale]

class depending ngl

[true cave]

optimal speeds

like spawner rush or blizz or dot apoth

[eternal gale]

[feral cliff]

yeah you mention gallery a lot

surely it'll help it be opened faster

[eternal gale]

same for ssteve trust

[eternal gale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/540939696356982810/1337754007820697663/1336882827391668276.gif

figuring out all the button possbile check

14/~50

😭

[nova mango]

and what if hexfall also got some low chance unique drop from non weeklies......

[feral cliff]

no czard

oh I misread that

[worthy pivot]

silver sapling

[rigid oyster]

Its too bad vigil already takes the theoretical cosmetic space skt couldve had

I guess scrolls could make a good consolation

[worthy pivot]

wdym

[rigid oyster]

Silver knights tomb cannot use silver knight cosmetics as a reward

SR/Eternal vigil already used all of them

So there’s not much room for SKT to have a rare drop like hexfall does

[orchid briar]

So 146 coven fortresses was a right decision got it

[feral cliff]

well you did amped right

[orchid briar]

Yea the one frogvis made on build shard

[feral cliff]

womp I dont think the patch hit those shards

[orchid briar]

Damn

Still got 3 scrolls!

[eternal gale]

💀 how’s the amped coven

[orchid briar]

Very good

Until schizo episode ends and then it just disappears

[cerulean turtle]

I don't think coven deserves to be under long POI tier

[vapid bane]

coven deserves a bit of favoritism once in a while

[high trout]

That poi sucks anyway

[eternal gale]

It’s my like

5th favourite non sp poi

[orchid briar]

Max pts coven took 9 min max pts doomed encamp took 12 min

[eternal gale]

I run that poi aloy back when I was active

[cerulean turtle]

fine by me

[radiant sluice]

buff scroll rate this week?

[scenic ocean]

See pinned

[radiant sluice]

ok cool

[mortal tartan]

wait what is amped coven

am i missing something

[worthy pivot]

Amped coven

My favorite PoI

[high trout]

Frogvis said he will build one on build shard

[rigid oyster]

Could the name of the SKR currencies be renamed maybe

Tbh the naming of mats is getting confusing at this point

Something like Silver Memory Wisp and Remnant Scroll Sliver/Shard or something maybe

[mortal tartan]

in my opinion there is usually not much reason for a currency name to be three words long

but that may just be me

[rigid oyster]

When there are this many currencies involved due to how long the game is

Especially when a bunch of content shares a theme

You start running out of both accurate and unique descriptors without stepping on toes

[slender mortar]

You like a Silver [Something]?

[rigid oyster]

Remember that quest items, currencies, equipment all have to compete with each other for names

[feral cliff]

shoutout to all the ‘pulsating ____ and ____ dust’

thanks discord formatting

[rigid oyster]

Personally i think infusion currencies should be renamed to be more similar and maybe to reduce the amount of dusts

Pulsating Gold Nugget and Pulsating Gold

Or “Half a Pulsating [currency]”

But that’s outside the bounds of this thread now

[feral cliff]

@silver lake do you know how to item replace to a new name

[silver lake]

i do not know if its that easy

[mortal tartan]

imo skt mat should be something different now that skr is a thing

"iridium scrap" or something idk

does it have lore i forget

[rigid oyster]

Probably a wider issue than just SKR at this point

Esp given how often content involving SK is gonna pop up again in the future

[worthy pivot]

Memory Fragment -> Memory Lattice
Remnant Scroll Fragment -> Remnant Scroll Canto / Remnant Canto

[feral cliff]

unlikely for this update but sure

pretend that message is pinned I dont have perms

[worthy pivot]

which one

[feral cliff]

this one

that has names I can copy

[worthy pivot]

epic

"lattice" doesn't match the sprite but rn they're just kinda rocks
i imagined them to be more data-like than literal pieces of knight armor

cantos are sections (read, fragments) of poems

[feral cliff]

lattice may get synonymed into oblivion

[rigid oyster]

I suggested “wisp”

I figure theyd be like

Actually how about Strand

[feral cliff]

wisp or sprite or cute rock would work

strand also works

I will make a big wheel and spin it tonight with all the suggestions

[snow wharf]

What if the strands were twisted so it was called twisted strand

[feral cliff]

what the scallop

[rigid oyster]

Apparently memories are inherently strand like

[worthy pivot]

you could do "Memory Chip" if you want to lean into the whole "we're collecting data for the record keeper"

[rigid oyster]

Canonically lore accurate to make them strands

[feral cliff]

me when texture

[worthy pivot]

the current texture isn't cool enough to have me work around it

it looks like unholy shards from thorium but mirrored

[wary ivy]

Remnant Information Nugget

[worthy pivot]

that's too close to iron and gold nuggets

[wary ivy]

Silver Knight's Rocks and Stones

[feral cliff]

rock.. and.. stone?

[wary ivy]

FOR KARL

[worthy pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/if-you-don't-rock-and-stone-you-ain't-comin'-home-deep-rock-galactic-rock-and-stone-run-ganondorf-gif-6106180493101324670

[low jetty]

there you go charging

[remote nebula]

All that Remains

[feral cliff]

thanks

[worthy pivot]

ATR tomorrow

[wary ivy]

#bugs-fixed-for-next-update message

[glacial gulch]

k

wait no this is differnt

nonononono

i want puzzles to onlyu have 1 solution man

[wary ivy]

Unless you searched for the other solutions that should not be a problem though? You'll enter a solution and it gets accepted