stop hosting rates and scenarios that promote iron fights

[raven nexus]

tier 3 on iron armour does ridiculous damage and the low cave rates high ore limiter games of recent make it so that the gear differential is pretty high between an unlucky and lucky player. One team struggles to find enchants while another is 3/4s each at pvp.

Surely the game is more fun for everyone if players dont die in 3 hits 🙂

[raven nexus]

I think more people would be comfortable to go up at pvp if they had the gear to do so too

[past glade]

every game where ore rates were big enough for everyone to be stacked, such as hypers paid games, were just not fun at all tbh

to nerf tier 3 vs full iron we might host enchanted death or anvil prog or scens like that

[raven nexus]

theres a difference between letting ppl find diamonds and hosting vein miner op lootcrates etc

[plucky spade]

i think its the oppositeno?

if ur unlucky as a team and everyone else can mine like 15 dias ur just fucked

while if there are low rates sure theres a lucky team and there will always be one but most teams will be p low geared

[cerulean barn]

that to3 we found a lot of people running around on surf considering we were full iron enchanted at pvp

i don't think its that bad

and i think lower skilled people will have a better chance if its a "3 tap" gear

considering its early game phase still

also besides rates what scen promotes iron fights

[raven nexus]

balance

[raven nexus]

i caved like 35 diamonds in 40 removed earlier while in a 35 removed game after it i caved 0 diamonds. the ore limiter is just not even enough for it to be so harsh

[cerulean barn]

balance isnt even hosted every game its chill and i feel like its a good scen anyway

[alpine ocean]

I like balance tho it sucks if u go to surface early get drained n u cant go mining again

[hearty totem]

i disagree

if it’s higher rates, the lowest u can be is like half ench when u go up and i think its much easier to fight the “lucky” full diamond team as opposed to low rates when ur clean iron unench fighting a “lucky” half diamond enchanted. Also higher rates nerfs xrayers because everyone will be much closer gear with them.

and yeah power 3 is way easy to get for how much it does to everyone in these low rates games

[raven nexus]

Ppl are less likely to ray if they can get a piece before pvp too

[hearty totem]

yeah people call it an “ethical xray” when u turn it on to get enchants or a piece since rates are shit and there’s nothing

[gleaming isle]

Can do higher or rates with like a 16 diamond limit

You’d have to get a few kills to be full dia and people wouldn’t be screwed over not being enchanted

If you’re at least one piece enchanted you can do anything

[hearty totem]

i like this

[plucky spade]

I fw that

[alpine ocean]

That way i can have a piece at pvp like @loud jay everygame

[loud jay]

since i got tagged idea

surely u can mix balance and nerfed anvils or some shit

or diamond limit and nerfed anvils

therefore something like s3 or p3 is a bit harder to get

[raven nexus]

16 limit is good cause you can go enchants and chest or enchants bad half

I’ve said it before and idk what it’d be like in practice but limiting all enchants to tier 2 could be interesting to try

[gleaming isle]

Idk limiting tier 2 is ass for people with kills. Someone with 10 kills would have the same gear as someone that just mined full diamond

[cerulean barn]

only cap the bow then if its the most annoying weapon early game

[hearty totem]

power 2 cap would go hard😂

that shit still does over a heart to full dia

[raven nexus]

Sharp 3 is equally overpowered against iron armour

Why did we stop hosting bow nerf

[hearty totem]

the difference is that u can always run from a guy with sharp 3 and never have to engage with them

[cerulean barn]

so can u with power 3?

[hearty totem]

not if they’re good

also power 3 always beat sharp 3 in a 1v1 unless the bow guy has noob movement

they just never have to melee

[cerulean barn]

idk i just think power 2 is as good as power 3 early game if the player knows how to use it

[raven nexus]

Definitely a problem reduced if everyone had access to decent gear before pvp

My biggest problem with the rates is the ore limiter seems inconsistent

And 1.5 caves is strip mine simulator

[cerulean barn]

supply drops helps tho

there are a lot that spawns before pvp and u can still get geared out of them

[hearty totem]

30 30 2x should be the bare minimum

25 25 2.5x preferably for me😇

[cerulean barn]

1.5 40% removed

[hearty totem]

mustache man ore rates

[cerulean barn]

I like to slowly and progressively build my gear Kill after Kill

The emotions are too much if i get full after first kill

[plucky spade]

imo its just because if ur good u can clutch a full dia just by bowing

had a situation like that

[hearty totem]

😂

no you build up your healing progressively

and enchantments

[cerulean barn]

not if everyone is full

[acoustic vapor]

in 35 35 you either have to go up full iron and risk running into the team that got 'lucky' and are half+ each or cave longer and just hope you can mine for some more pieces

if you think everyone being full iron is more fun than full diamond you're crazy, not fun to wait 15 mins for pvp just to die in 15 seconds lol

[warped bolt]

i fw this only if its like anvil prog or something so its not like 1.7 uhc (hell)

[raven nexus]

1.7 issue is 2 heart abso

[short thorn]

1.7 uhc is good noob ur just not built for the chug fights

[distant turtle]

This is a good suggestion since once you get past 30% removed it’s literally just luck on if your gonna mine nothing, or get full diamond and 20 gaps vs where the fights could be more fun and skill based.

[lavish kettle]

u should be in player council

[warped bolt]

maybe to u but personally i like when fights go faster, like by the time armor starts breaking i am probably already bored

might just be a me thing though tbh

[short thorn]

that’s a good point

i love dropping in seconds

it’s a new level of sadness

[warped bolt]

bro im trying to find a balance between dropping in seconds and fights that take 30 minutes

[short thorn]

im dead u rly just admitted u drop in seconds

u noob

[warped bolt]

everyone drops in seconds in low gear against sharp 3 or power 3 unless u tremendously love it

maybe not tremendously but ykwim

if there were more diamond pieces around early game fights would still be fast but not end in seconds and i think thats a good thing

[raven nexus]

It’s no absorption

[warped bolt]

true

[plucky spade]

Im ngl i enjoy more like undergeared fights like fighting as iron enchanted feels better but if thats what u guys prefer idm

[warped bolt]

i think this has been mentioned before but anvil prog would be cool with this

[alpine ocean]

Poor fights are the best

[warped bolt]

i suck so take this w/ a grain of salt but in concept this encourages early fights and balances them

balances very early fights at least

[plucky spade]

I dislike anvil prog

[warped bolt]

why so

[plucky spade]

Not really fun to play as a feeling

Like idk having to just enchant = finished stuff feels shit

[warped bolt]

like it doesnt have the same satisfaction of like 3 tapping someone?

[warped bolt]

fair enough

[plucky spade]

Imo we should nerf how easy it is to get power 3 since theres not much counterplay (maybe some people would be less tended to dig down)

Sharpness 3 is like fair because u gotta at least get to melee range and if ur unlucky with books it takes longer to get while power 3 if u get a mineshaft it's just almost instant

[warped bolt]

do you think maybe it could be better if there was like an altered scen where u start with 1 anvil use and you had to get kills for further ones

[warped bolt]

bow nerf doesnt FIX this but it could be like a puzzle piece in nerfing power 3

bc i fully agree

power 3 is a nuke

maybe allow like a maximum of bows that can be crafted per game so you dont get free p3 with a mineshaft