🪹the-sepulchre-arg

[plucky rivet]

Ah ok cool. Some friends and I are just getting into things.

[viral lantern]

If you go to the pins, the revamped doc that DeCaff linked has an entry about it. It is titled "Stand By The Lost."

[daring oak]

first part of valley of dolls audio - "please don't do this"

complete speculation btw

[plush dock]

Is there anything in Latin in the game?

Don't know if this old or new sorry if it's old

[radiant sonnet]

That's just the letter A over and over again.

[plush dock]

The Last Resort font is a collection of glyphs to represent types of Unicode characters</Function>
<Justification>These glyphs are designed to allow users to recognize an encoded value in scenarios where the desired font doesn’t provide a character</Justification>

[tidal sonnet]

also side note (new here btw) has/is the debanco truck website a thing that exists? a few of the letters are scratched/worn out but it felt oddly well rendered for an in progress map; if it's nothing/reused asset sorry for squirrel chasing

[halcyon canopy]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BL7nWO9WYQqG-RbBwMEEMzjNRooOJR4fZxeaRs3KdAk/edit?usp=sharing

[supple pagoda]

iirc there used to be an Easter egg/ARG step that involved standing in a certain place in the memorial but it was bugged

it was supposed to play an audio clip, like a tune

[radiant sonnet]

was loaf cat banned?

[halcyon canopy]

He’s in the NDA server

Skeky’s messages in VC

[warm notch]

…

[brazen meadow]

new patch note codes read "break free" but i'm sure you guys figured that out already

[radiant sonnet]

That doesn't make any sense. We speak English here, not code

[warm notch]

yeah

[plush dock]

I found it in the game's file along with www.unicode.org in the same file that I got that from.

[halcyon canopy]

From Skeky again

[topaz jackal]

has anyone put the photos through steganographic programs

[halcyon canopy]

@radiant sonnet This chat

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/995186715121696892/995191214158659645/Valley_TapeWhispers-AudioTrimmer.com.mp3

Is there a mod I can talk to about how long a mute lasts for saying a bad word?

Person said R-Word

(Lol)

[celest lotus]

why are you using duerag lol

[topaz jackal]

ok i did pretty much what most before me did

no luck either

[icy oar]

nope

placeholder models

[ivory wren]

Sweet Love for planet earth II, Faces, Unknown?

Anybody look into that stuff?

[warm notch]

not too much

[icy oar]

sweet love for planet earth is a song apparently

[ivory wren]

Yeah, I think we're overlooking the II part though.

Is that meant to be like a part 2 or..

I dunno mate

[topaz jackal]

assuming the eldritch horror picture's caption's capital letters mean anything
we get an a1z26 combo of 15 20 15 19 1

if i combine the entire schizo rant together i get "Wake-up. Remember. Your country needs you. There is not an End. Every road converges upon You, every bloom becomes Us. Listen to Them. Listen. Breathe. You’re not a hero. Not a King. Not a God. Just mulch for us all.” “Where has it gotten you, this heaven-scorned fury? The blood seeps through you. Your eyes blinded by viscera. You’re disgusting. You don’t have to be this way. You don’t have to be this way. You can be more."

so if i assume it's book cipher being used

and take 1 for first word

converges becomes converges bloom Wake

ok nonsense
taking 0 for first word

upon us upon becomes up

still nonsense

[graceful flame]

I threw my head into the wall on book cipher before you did

i had no success

well

at least a little success

i got at least one bit that doesn’t seem like total nonsense

[topaz jackal]

lemme scroll up
which one is it?

[graceful flame]

this one

Wake Needs Us

Might still be total horse shit

[topaz jackal]

it seems at least a little coherent given "end" is at the end and "country listen us" does align with some levels on suspects believing the country isn't listening to them

we can presume it's a possible lead and find out what the "wake" means

[graceful flame]

that’s what I was thinking

it lines up a little bit

If this is a book cipher this shit is obtuse as it always normally is

I’ve also entertained the idea that it might be a VIC cipher through the number designations

which if it is

LMFAO

we’re fucked

[topaz jackal]

the unknown.png may just be there for spook factor given how all the shitposts i usually save in discord have "unknown" as their file name

1st image is most intriguing given how the dude looks like one of the playermodels in the game

[graceful flame]

cuz it might literally be

[topaz jackal]

the sweetloveforplanetearthII one

[storm karma]

ready or not

[topaz jackal]

maybe we can datamine his model or look through his voice lines

provided we nail who he is

[graceful flame]

Sweet Love For Planet Earth refers to a song we think

https://youtu.be/RxVZDxK02QE

[plush dock]

Could it be a poem cipher

[halcyon canopy]

What’s a vic cipher?

[graceful flame]

the perfect evolution of the Nihilist cipher

If the cipher were to be given a modern technical name, it would be known as a "straddling bipartite monoalphabetic substitution superenciphered by modified double transposition."

[halcyon canopy]

Hmmm yes

Floor is made out of blood

[graceful flame]

lemme put it to you like this

the NSA was unable to crack this cipher themselves

it took the guy who invented it defecting to the US to tell them how it worked

[halcyon canopy]

Yeah holy shit this is a confusing ass cipher

[left bough]

put those numbers through gwynn table and switched them back to numbers through a1z26, got 18 15 18 26 16
corresponding words in the texts would be starting from 1 got bloom upon bloom you're you

i have no idea what i'm doing and am new, so sorry if this isn't relevant anymore

[warm notch]

is it just me or

wiat

[warm notch]

thank you so much for helping decipher that

but also

there’s a reoccurring character

mr Mal.0 or whatever the fuck

here i think

and here

both have their snoot

either that or they’re yk just hiding their identities

one is more chomp while other below is more canine

[sly beacon]

im scared

[vague crag]

I'd say that they both resemble the two above tbh
Like, guy stood up is guy on left, guy laid down is guy on right

[warm notch]

wha happen

[vague crag]

These might be something too?

[warm notch]

fair fair but still they feel like they resemble like brothers but are distant, not fully sane

wait mean what?

sorry again but what did you circle?

[vague crag]

one sec

[left bough]

?

there's some splash looking things around

[warm notch]

ooooo thank you a lot

[vague crag]

Its hard to show it..

The one close to the guys looks like a face

[sly beacon]

Maybe

Try increasing the contrast?

[vague crag]

dunno if it shows

Might need to open it up

If I increase it anymore the shape goes

[left bough]

i have no idea what i did, but does that help?

[vague crag]

YES

[sly beacon]

Could just be an explosion

[vague crag]

looks like a face to me

[sly beacon]

it could be a skull point toward the back of the soldier?

[vague crag]

looks kinda similar to homeboy on the left

[humble warren]

Also I don't think its Prescott, since below it mentions "Your country needs you" which is British version of Uncle sam needs you, so maybe something to do with England and their police force, which the 2nd picture in the dev update looks to be a early 2000s British sas uniform and helmet if I am correct

[left bough]

but from the current available characters, prescott is most similar to the first image

[humble warren]

They could be adding new ones

And maybe even British CT force although the game is based off more US CTs

For example mindjot guys look like they are wearing British police officer uniform, but wite and with plate carrier and helmet

[red night]

Anyone figure out the 2nd number cipher

[left bough]

which one was that?

[red night]

From the July 8 dev update

chracter concept arts

[left bough]

wasn't that something "free"

"breakfree"?

[red night]

The first one was 8 15 13 5, that is a simple number-letter cipher, H O M E

The second was 7 15 2 0 18 9 15 2 2 , which gives not something so simple

[left bough]

through gwynn table: B R E A K F R E E

[red night]

Ah cool

[left bough]

pretty sure someone else figured that out

[red night]

What is gwynn table ?

[left bough]

it's a numbers-characters switch rule table

you can find a google doc about these in the pinned messages

[red night]

Ah right

[atomic solstice]

Prob nothing but this may be in relation with the security from the dev block, and the slogan „I have what you need“ sounds a bit odd

From the new trailer

[left bough]

check the mindjot sec picture for info?

[atomic solstice]

Ye

But I have what you need sounds odd for a security company slogan

[humble warren]

Is this anything to do with arg or just an easter egg?

[humble warren]

Also misspelled

[left bough]

indeed

[atomic solstice]

yes

[humble warren]

Clearly an Indian scam group

[atomic solstice]

Also have you guys noticed the Capital Letter mistakes in the dev block? May also be something behind it

[left bough]

yeah, i'm trying to see if there's anything to it

[humble warren]

Is there anything on google about mindjot

[atomic solstice]

Ill try

[humble warren]

Mindjot does show some website https://www.capitolrealtypartners.com/about
Maybe capital mistakes have something to do, but this seems to be a genuine company

[atomic solstice]

The data they protect is more valuable than gold

[humble warren]

Nah this seems real, they exist

[vapid hamlet]

found this ingame, thought it might have something to do with the arg

it was flickering when i killed a civ

[atomic solstice]

The heck

[atomic solstice]

What is this

[left bough]

where is it?

[vapid hamlet]

in the hq

[humble warren]

Looks like an eye

[cedar saffron]

No way

[atomic solstice]

Its the civ room

Where the civ spawns and you can test your items on it

[vapid hamlet]

yea

[cedar saffron]

Looks like spectrogram shit

It’s clearly an eye

👁

[humble warren]

It's weird since I couldn't use my guns there yesterday it wouldn't shoot

[cedar saffron]

Put it through a spectrogram and then see what audio comes out of it

Or whatever

Could be a clue

[vapid hamlet]

ye quite dubious

[cedar saffron]

We haven’t had any new stuff since the update right

[atomic solstice]

Maybe it looks similar to one of the faces…?

[vapid hamlet]

notthing but the newsletter

[cedar saffron]

Generally the eye textures for all the characters are kind of the same

[atomic solstice]

I mean the arg faces

[cedar saffron]

I would say it looks like something you could put through a spectrogram and hear audio out of it

[atomic solstice]

Like in the newsletter

[amber girder]

Definitely an eye, but does that bit on the top left look like a very crude face to anybody else?
Like something peeking out?

[humble warren]

https://olugbengaogunsina.blogspot.com/?m=1

Wtf is this

[atomic solstice]

Mindjot hacked his mind

[cedar saffron]

where is this from

[humble warren]

Just google search

[cedar saffron]

BRO

[atomic solstice]

Its also in the trailer

[atomic solstice]

On the pinboard

[amber girder]

Fits with the eye showing up after killing the civilian. So whatever that eye is has to do with the USIA

[vapid hamlet]

im getting chills this shit iinteresting

[humble warren]

Someone needs to also get the eye and get higher detail photo

[hard shard]

can't seem to replicate the eye on my end

[amber girder]

Thing is the USIA was dissolved in 1999

@vapid hamlet can you give us a detailed run down on how you got the eye to pop up? Anything weird you did?

[humble warren]

Lmao

[amber girder]

Well that's absolutely awful

[humble warren]

Did you do it with nvg?

[hard shard]

yeah

[humble warren]

Then nvm

[cedar saffron]

@vapid hamlet maybe you gotta shoot him in the eye or something

[humble warren]

Maybe specific frame rate or settings?

[cedar saffron]

Idk do you remember at all exactly what you were doing

[amber girder]

What if it's not what he did to the civ, but what he did afterwards?

[amber girder]

Like the way he looked triggered it, where he moved, etc

[vapid hamlet]

i killed the civ then looked att the crates near there

right where the stairs are

[humble warren]

Maybe it's a rare event

[vapid hamlet]

i just shot him in the chest i think

[amber girder]

I was about to suggest it's something like the old, and I apologise for bringing it into this but it's a good example, FNaF 1 Golden Freddy thing

Where you just get a flat random chance for it to show up and you have a look at something specific for it to appear

[humble warren]

Maybe if you flash your self something can happen

[cedar saffron]

@vapid hamlet what weapon and load out were you using

[humble warren]

930272139200839700

[vapid hamlet]

what if it has something to do with killing innocent civs in general and being lucky

the hk416 with suppressor combat grip ir laser and srs

.357 magnum

battering ram

[amber girder]

I think other people would have seen it by now tbh

[cedar saffron]

I know killing civies does trigger stuff in the game like in the hotel map it actually triggers the statue to whisper at you

[vapid hamlet]

it's like you're being watched for doing these actions

[cedar saffron]

but I know that’s well known already

[amber girder]

Do the whispers actually say anything interesting?

[cedar saffron]

I don’t remember

But I know that was an actual thing

[amber girder]

Would make sense, "THE USIA IS WATCHING YOU WORK"

[cedar saffron]

Not sure if related to the ARG or just some really creepy easter egg

[humble warren]

Also has anyone tried interacting with the numbers dude with the lost role?

[amber girder]

Do we know if arresting suspects/civvies triggers anything similar

[cedar saffron]

I think the statue normally tells time but if you kill the civie it’s says something wrong

[cedar saffron]

Who

[atomic solstice]

Theres a scrambled word under the text

My res is not high enough to read it

Someone with a computer

[humble warren]

@ancient vessel

[cedar saffron]

What the fuck

Okay that’s creepy bro

I got chills

lmfao

[amber girder]

Ayo hold up

His PfP

[humble warren]

This is from the old one

[amber girder]

Aint that this one

[cedar saffron]

I’m gonna try to replicate it with your load out

[humble warren]

Yea it got updated

[vapid hamlet]

ok

[amber girder]

this?

Or very similar

atleast

[humble warren]

But maybe someone needs to dm him or call him? Or send him like the BREAKFREE message

[atomic solstice]

GUYS

MLTHETRUTH131215

[amber girder]

his name in longitude latitude comes up in a forest in Cameroon

can presume it holds no reference

[cedar saffron]

I GOT IT

[amber girder]

My Life The Truth?

[humble warren]

They said no real life locations need to go to or phone calling

[humble warren]

It's way different

[atomic solstice]

Idk read the pic

What the fuck

[cedar saffron]

Yeah idk why

The eye is there tho

[vapid hamlet]

still resembles an eye imo

[cedar saffron]

Like the center of it

[left bough]

how'd you manage it?

[vapid hamlet]

it looks way more outlandish

[amber girder]

A different eye tho

[cedar saffron]

The center of the eye is still there

[atomic solstice]

Yo sure its not a glitch?

[amber girder]

also more complete on the screen

[cedar saffron]

If it was it wouldn’t have the same eye thing imo

[amber girder]

Interestingly, you're using Green Phospor

He used White

[humble warren]

Does it happen without nvg?

[cedar saffron]

No it’s white

I use white lol

[amber girder]

Oh right

lol

Looked green

[cedar saffron]

Green phos old farb

[amber girder]

Try it with green?

[cedar saffron]

Ok so

Basically

[hard shard]

huh, interdastin

[humble warren]

Look around the station maybe something activated/triggered

[cedar saffron]

It flashed on my screen for like 4 seconds and I fat fingered my shadow play and spammed screenshot instead of record

[atomic solstice]

MLO

[cedar saffron]

fuck

[atomic solstice]

Guys listen

[humble warren]

That's the cult also MWLWO

[atomic solstice]

MLTHETRUTH131215

[cedar saffron]

I replicated @vapid hamlet’s load out here

[atomic solstice]

13 12 15 = MLO

[cedar saffron]

and I just magdumped the test civie until I got it

[humble warren]

MLTHETRUTHMLO?

[atomic solstice]

Yes

I have no idea what that means

[cedar saffron]

There may be a more specific way to do it I think I did it by accident

[atomic solstice]

But it was in the trailer

[humble warren]

ML repeats so maybe remove it?

[atomic solstice]

The truth mlo

[deft oyster]

MLO is the mariposa lily organization

[atomic solstice]

Its the truth…?

[humble warren]

Then look at the Gwyneth table and try getting the numbers from that and back into alphabetical order?

[atomic solstice]

Can u send me the table?

[humble warren]

It's in pinned

[cedar saffron]

These are the three photos so far

[deft oyster]

And the USIA is where the main suspect on Ridgeline worked

[cedar saffron]

If it was a glitch it wouldn’t be happening to the both of us

I think

Top two are my attempt

bottom is riley’s original

[humble warren]

It could but it's not how a glitch would look

[atomic solstice]

What is the marioposa lilly organization?

[humble warren]

Read up on the back story on the pinned Google docs

[atomic solstice]

Ok

[cedar saffron]

This does look like a face though

[amber girder]

That's what I thought

Also the boxes you're looking at, the one on the top right says something

yo

yo

symbol

tlh

[humble warren]

Face behind the eye... hmm

[cedar saffron]

It’s not working again I’ve been magdumping the civie like 20 times

[amber girder]

I'm trying it and getting nought

[cedar saffron]

Maybe it’s a checklist thing in your game and you can’t get it anymore when you get it the first time?

[amber girder]

maybe it's a one time thing

[hard shard]

Yeah, still not getting anything here, even with the loadout change

[left bough]

i doubt that's anything

[amber girder]

Can't imagine it meaning anything but

[atomic solstice]

What is USIA

[amber girder]

worth a look at

[atomic solstice]

MLTHETRUTH131215

[amber girder]

United States Information Agency

[humble warren]

What if we had a full squad and mag dumped the Civil?

[atomic solstice]

What do they do?

Like a news media?

[amber girder]

They were a government group

[cedar saffron]

Do you guys have mods on

[deft oyster]

The real one was shut down in the 90s but it was like a us propaganda spreader

[amber girder]

this basicall

Oct 1st, 1999

[cedar saffron]

The game has a checklist if you’re running mods so try with and without

I had some mods on but Idk if they were the cause

[deft oyster]

But judging from the the trailer image it looks like it might be fictional or still operating

[amber girder]

Or

MindJot is the successor to the USIA

[atomic solstice]

Interesting

[hard shard]

shell organisation like Air America was for the CIA perhaps

[amber girder]

Yeah that's what I was thinking

The govt. officially disbanded the USIA, but they kept MindJot around

[amber girder]

This may have nothing to do with it, but OD or Black Unis?

And what character

[amber girder]

same question to you @vapid hamlet

[cedar saffron]

I’m personally running Swan

[amber girder]

OD or Black?

[cedar saffron]

Black

[amber girder]

AP or JHP?

What armour and slots

[cedar saffron]

I run 2 AP, 2 JHP

[amber girder]

If we can get a perfect replication, we can put it to random chance

[cedar saffron]

Ceramic light armor

[amber girder]

F+B?

[vapid hamlet]

black and king i think

[cedar saffron]

yeah

[vapid hamlet]

ap

all ap

3 flashbangs i think

[cedar saffron]

I’d take a picture but I just got off getting ready to bed

Load out might not be exclusive

[amber girder]

So I don't think it's loadout exclusive then

no

[cedar saffron]

I only copied what he wrote down

So maybe the NVG?

[amber girder]

What guns are the mindjot guys using?

[cedar saffron]

Like I said I was using White Phos in this case

[humble warren]

What about supporters edition? Maybe it has something normal game doesn't?

[humble warren]

Mp5

[amber girder]

A2? A3? 10mm

[humble warren]

But it does say bleeding edge equipment

[amber girder]

Presuming A3 then

[marsh python]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310075135325634580/995015567624912896/datacenter_mindjot_security.jpg

[hard shard]

looks like an mp5k.

[humble warren]

My best bet is MP5K

[amber girder]

Yeah that's a K

[atomic solstice]

Guys could MLO and USIA be in relation to each other?

[marsh python]

ye looks like a k

[humble warren]

So could be mp5a3 or sp5k

[amber girder]

That almost looks like something similar to the picture from that Lost guys pfp

Which btw looks like the picture from before

[tranquil cipher]

i wonder what dudes think after seeing this shit on the steam bi-weekly news

[deft oyster]

Probably not because the USIA is a government agency and the MLO is a domestic terrorist organization but I guess it’s not off the table

[amber girder]

this but rotated upwards

[humble warren]

That's the creature from the 34th devblog

And reflection seems to be a building or something

[vague crag]

ping 👁️

[atomic solstice]

Guys what if the USIA is watching the person who got the eye on the screen?

[amber girder]

Only a specific person?

[atomic solstice]

No

I mean like

[amber girder]

No no but like there's a certain amount of chance required that only a few people will get

[atomic solstice]

They are watching the player or the swat

[amber girder]

That's what I presumed it meant yeah

They were watching the work of the SWAT

Which is why it shows up after we kill a civvie

MLO is a Luciferian organisation in Sweden? but

like

[atomic solstice]

And Mindjot is now the USIA if your assumptions fit

[amber girder]

that's probably not it

[atomic solstice]

So

MindJot is watching the SWAT

[amber girder]

Makes sense

explains why it shows up after the US SWAT kill civvies. They're pissed we're making their propaganda job more difficult, maybe?

[atomic solstice]

Maybe

[humble warren]

Can someone check if any other accounts have the lost role?

[hard shard]

Gonna say it, all bad stuff aside, Dissection were lit.

[atomic solstice]

So what could they be guarding then?

And why do they „have what we need?“

[amber girder]

More valuable than gold is what it said right?

[atomic solstice]

Yes

[humble warren]

Information is more valuable the gold
I heard some similar phrase somewhere

[atomic solstice]

Google it maybe

[humble warren]

Or was it knowledge

[amber girder]

Bible

Proverbs 16:16

"How much better to acquire wisdom than gold"

[atomic solstice]

Interesting

[humble warren]

We need someone with supporters editon

[left bough]

well there was something about thembeing fanatics, no?

[atomic solstice]

Yes

[amber girder]

Anybody looked behind here yet?

[marsh python]

what you need em to do

[amber girder]

Behind the civilian rooms wooden walls

[humble warren]

Yea nothing big

We really need a noclip

[amber girder]

camera mod

it has a debug camera

[humble warren]

Just a punching bag

[amber girder]

I'm on it

[atomic solstice]

So mindjot has a lot of information probably about the swat as they are watching them

[left bough]

eh

[humble warren]

That's weird it's shot in the same spot I shot it when I was shooting the walls yesterday

[left bough]

i did take a couple shots at it when i leaned

[amber girder]

Why is there a door behind the wall?

[atomic solstice]

Its the backrooms

Lol

[left bough]

go through the door?

[marsh python]

can we even get back there to the door?

[atomic solstice]

Get an nvg

[amber girder]

Added a point light

that's what showed up

[humble warren]

The whole station is weird it's in a metro

[atomic solstice]

Maybe its just a glitch?

[left bough]

try with nvg?

[amber girder]

Not sure I can

i'm using a debug camera

[humble warren]

Someone try DM the numbers dude some random deciphered phrases

Like BREAKFREE or something

[amber girder]

Dmed BREAKFREE

Any others?

[atomic solstice]

MLTHETRUTHMLO

[humble warren]

Try all lmao

From the docs in pinned

[amber girder]

all

[left bough]

oh right, doesn't seem like the capital letters in the dev log thing have anything

[humble warren]

It definitely has, no way they just committed grammar nazi bait

[left bough]

rrrgh, fine, i'll just slap another layer of deciphering on them

[atomic solstice]

Mail the Truth to MLO?

[humble warren]

Maybe it's nothing for now

Or maybe try adding all the missing capitals for a word?

Also I really want to find out how many users have the lost role

[left bough]

i dunno about that

[amber girder]

There's a lecture hall upstairs in the PD

[humble warren]

Try using their alphabetical order and then into Gwyneth ?

[humble warren]

Ngl it looks like a shrine

[amber girder]

No no

[humble warren]

Or like remembering the fallen oned

[amber girder]

Like a half modelled upstairs interior

[humble warren]

Oh

[amber girder]

Cafeteria

and everything

The gated off stairs

[humble warren]

I thought you ment the room where there is 2 very low texture walls to both sides

[amber girder]

No no

The gated off stairs near the smoking tall guy

[humble warren]

Maybe we fan somehow open the fence?

[amber girder]

I'll try some stuff

[left bough]

these ones?

[amber girder]

Yes

[humble warren]

There is more fenced off areas

[humble warren]

Like the ones near the rail tracks

[left bough]

opposite side of upstairs has a blocked off area with stairs down

[amber girder]

Oooh

[humble warren]

Behind the shooting range

[amber girder]

There's a loud humming noise upstairs

[humble warren]

Hmm try to find it's sourc3

[amber girder]

It's in that lecture hall

I'll record it and post it

[humble warren]

@930265033529770045

Didn't work

[marsh python]

MLTHETRUTH131215
6, 25, 3, 23, 2, 3, 15, 10, 3, 23, 131215
625323231510323131215

decided to move the letters back to numbers for mlthetruth to see what we got, no idea if it helps any

[amber girder]

The humming is specifically near the t-posed lecturing officer

could be meant for a projector or something

it's higher up in the room, but it's far too close. Not sure

[atomic solstice]

131215 means MLO

[amber girder]

There's the sound of air con in the cafeteria

think i'm just hearing stuff that isn't yet modelled tbh

[humble warren]

how do you open the console on discord?

[marsh python]

probably

[humble warren]

like the inspect thingy

[amber girder]

There's also a long tunnel behind the shooting range, can't illuminate it nearly enough and it's freaking me the tf out so i'm leaving it be

This is all the way up above the entire HQ map

I'm irrationally terrified of dropping a light and something jumping out at me

[marsh python]

guys ron isn't a horror game we swear

[amber girder]

Aerial view of HQ

There's no other extra-map light sources I can see

[humble warren]

what is that room

[left bough]

shooting range?

[humble warren]

oh

[amber girder]

yes

[humble warren]

right

[amber girder]

Oh wait

maybe the big open room up top is the Metro entrance

Explains the metal-detector looking things

[humble warren]

@930272139200839700

<@&930272139200839700

bruh

[amber girder]

nothing there

Illuminated the gate below the stairs

[humble warren]

<@&930272139200839700>

there we go

[amber girder]

Okay so

Y'know the boxes we look at to get the eye?

The one with writing on has a fully modeled interior

No idea if that means anything but

[hard shard]

I had noticed that

[amber girder]

None of the other boxes have interiors

Ummmmmm

[left bough]

i just found that same thing

[marsh python]

backrooms time lets go

[amber girder]

Just goes into the tunnels down below

but wtf

why is it modelled like that

there has to be something to this. There's no reason they'd take the time to model it with a broken wall and shit

[amber girder]

Manufadirebfor?

[humble warren]

manufactured before

prob

[hard shard]

manufactured for*

[amber girder]

oh

lmfao

numbers could mean something

tho

at the top

Somebody intelligent cypher them

Okay just had a heart attack

Cider

At the other end of the tunnels from the broken wall entrance

[marsh python]

find something?

[amber girder]

there's a hole

and when you go down it it flips your camera and

it made me absolutely shit myself

[marsh python]

lmao

[humble warren]

ok so how did you get the eye thingy pop up?

[amber girder]

shooting the civvie and then staring at the boxes afaik

[marsh python]

with nvgs on specific characters right?

[amber girder]

Pretty sure they don't matter

but yeah NVGs

wait

[amber girder]

wheres that at Matt?

[amber girder]

The flipped text reads:

Manufacturedfor

ESTROGENEIS Austin, TX

08383,1-888-000-000

[hard shard]

still trying to proc the NVG thing.
At this point if I get it the clip

[hard shard]

'll be ruined by the stuff I'm watching on my second monitor

[humble warren]

there is a bathroom here

[amber girder]

Where?

[humble warren]

lockeroom

[amber girder]

Fully modelled showerroom

[marsh python]

yup

[humble warren]

I find it weird that there is russian ammo boxes with temperature

[amber girder]

I wonder if perhaps this stuff with the map is irrelevent

That it's got nothing to do with the MindJot stuff

the eye is clearly relevant

perfectly fits with being watched

but the noclip debug camera out of bounds stuff is just, well untextured left overs?

[hard shard]

Yeah, most likely placeholder/testing textures for later extension

[humble warren]

yea

[hard shard]

or just scrapped ideas

[left bough]

i found a huge empty room area

[humble warren]

feel free to try and read this gibberish

[amber girder]

this i'm interested in

[humble warren]

yoo fuck off

I am done

not my country

[amber girder]

Top 10 Lithuania Moments

5th line down on the notepad

[hard shard]

Little Green men confirmed

[amber girder]

it says something about "To xxx down to camelot"

I think ride

"You has heard a whisper say, A xxx is on xx of xxx sky, To look down to Camelot"?

Maybe

[humble warren]

https://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladislovas_Burbulis

easier to read

[marsh python]

definetly looks like it says camelot

[amber girder]

100% says Camelot

no idea what the bottom is

The Lady of "Shallot" almost

[hard shard]

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/45359/the-lady-of-shalott-1832

perhaps?

[amber girder]

yeah it's that

[humble warren]

https://www.ufologija.lt/index.php/homepage/ivykiai/37-du-policininkai-mate-nso-czv-archyvas

[amber girder]

Willows whiten, aspens shiver.
The sunbeam showers break and quiver
In the stream that runneth ever
By the island in the river
Flowing down to Camelot.
Four gray walls, and four gray towers
Overlook a space of flowers,
And the silent isle imbowers
The Lady of Shalott.

I think

[humble warren]

Just an easter egg I guess

[amber girder]

That's my guess

[amber girder]

think it might be the same with this

althought the most recent two pics on the document almost look like trees

Willows whiten, aspens shiver?

[amber girder]

pretty much it for relevance as far as I can see

[marsh python]

i wouldnt be too sure on the shalott one, seeing as they did carcosa way back it might be somethin

[amber girder]

Good to have it in the backburner as something we know

[left bough]

why do the police cars look like they've been standing in there for ages?

[humble warren]

I ran out of interesting stuff in the HQ

[hard shard]

not sure if there's much crossover between Arthurian mythos and Lovecraftian, but who knows

[humble warren]

I noticed that you can use the battering ram anywhere

so maybe use it to interact with something?

[hard shard]

yeah, been using it to push my friends around in the station, good times.

[humble warren]

wtf I can hear a heart beat in HQ

[marsh python]

neat

[left bough]

you what now?

[humble warren]

taking shit too far lmao

[marsh python]

find the source or na?

[humble warren]

I was just standing in the shooting range and the music switched and went all silent

[marsh python]

o... oh?

[hard shard]

You sure it's not just an ambient beat? There is one that sounds like a heartbeat

[humble warren]

maybe

but the music cut off

[marsh python]

I think the carcossa one reached a dead end, or atleast basically stopped being explored. IDK if its stuff is even still relevant to Sepulchre, but might be worth atleast noting down

[humble warren]

pretty sure it still has to do with this, its like part 2

I can't get the eye to work

maybe doing something wrong or its a very rare occurance

[marsh python]

if so might be worth gettin whoevers handling the current doc to merge the old ARG stuff forward

[hasty adder]

They didn't get far really

And that stuff is legit over 3 years old. Finding it is impossible now

[marsh python]

its in the pins

[hasty adder]

I have a link to their old docs and thats kinda it

[marsh python]

ye it didn't get very far haha, that doc is about as far as it got

but its atleast a little extra info for peeps that didn't see the carcosa stuff

[hasty adder]

And so far not a single bit has transfered forward

[humble warren]

I mean the 8,15,13 guy updated pfp

I wonder how many users have the lost role

maybe he aint the only one

but there is soo many users here I won't bother

[atomic solstice]

Howd you guys Progress?

[hard shard]

no dice on the eye still

[humble warren]

same

[amber girder]

No response from number guy

[humble warren]

he is american

so wait for it I guess

[plucky rivet]

Not related to anything but I just noticed that in the back of the range lanes, there's a ramp that seems oddly placed so you can see 2 train tracks? Has that been looked into at all?

[marsh python]

i know hes not some otherworldly being but i just love that concept of "oh yeah dw, this interdimensional monster is just in a different timezone give him a few hours"

[hard shard]

Even Elder Gods need their beauty sleep, alright?

[humble warren]

you know signals take a long time to go from 4d to 3d space

I genuinely ran out of ideas with this as well maybe game files have something hidden

[plucky rivet]

Sorry, where is this bord located in game?

[left bough]

the new trailer thingy has it

dunno about in game

[plucky rivet]

Also likely unrelated but I find it odd that one of the cardboard targets at the bottom of the stairs seems pretty happy about being used as a hostage.

[royal wing]

Can someone update me on the situation?

What's been found so far?

[hard shard]

potentially spoop nvg glitch effect when you shoot the civilian in the precinct.

[amber girder]

Did look OOB around him

nothing of any interest

[plucky rivet]

Lol I just found the bear outside of the kill room

[amber girder]

yeah lol

[plucky rivet]

Do we have a way of clipping camera through walls?

Or is it limited to pathways and such?

I see what looks like wall splatter in the kill house opposite side of the target placed in the hole in the stone wall.

[hasty adder]

A supposed free cam mod is out there

But please also realize that the game didn't get updated with the announcement

[plucky rivet]

Right hand side under the bell. It's probably nothing but I found it a bit odd

For sure. Just noticed it and it stuck outa tiny bit to me. Like I said, it's probably nothing though

[hard shard]

looks a bit like the usual paint patches

[royal wing]

Yeah, seems likely this was here since they released the update, just waiting for us

I'm sure we'll find something though

Now that the trail has run hot again

[humble warren]

either we are discovering a lot of easter eggs or this is to do with ARG

[humble warren]

yea, but maybe we missed something or with new clues we can find some context for map stuff

iirc this is all about to interest up about the story of the game

[hasty adder]

Yeah... but nothing related to the ARG though, at least in terms of solving stuff

A lot of people here are invested in a story that's being told via the game updating. The ARG is connected in some ways sure, but it has never revealed anything plot relevant yet

That has only changed yesterday when HOME was officially announced

[humble warren]

I hope it ends up something like the whole payday 2 iceberg with maybe some
levels accessible with only solving arg

[hasty adder]

Nah that would be shitty

Maybe some odd in-game secrets sure, but overdrill alone was a massive pain in the ass

Much less the white house

Not a whole lot of people have the patience to perform precise actions for hours straight

[hard shard]

Also following PD2 for long enough for them to get around to finishing the secret

[humble warren]

I ment like you solve the ARG and in-game you can unlock something special like a map where you face the "MLO" for example

[hasty adder]

The issue is about hiding lots of content from the average player sucks

A secret level sounds interesting, but with a game in early access I doubt much is gon a come of this for a good while

[humble warren]

True, but don't forget that it's also probable going to take years to solve, every update adding some intresting stuff

[shadow needle]

This Is kinds horrific. I've been following you guys in this journey for a while, but this is scary

The only really creepy part are the weird faces

As I sometimes hallucinate during sleep lol

[hard shard]

isn't that just dreaming?

[shadow needle]

No

It's an actually hallucination

However, does anyone else think VOID is a weird title for a new game company. It's almost like they had this all planned out. The updates and everything. Before even making the game

[hasty adder]

Void interactive has been out for a decent while

[shadow needle]

Really?

What other games have they made

[hasty adder]

Mostly smaller ones from what I was told?

[shadow needle]

And could they relate to this at all?

Should we check them out for info/clues

[hasty adder]

Nah

Too deep mang

[humble warren]

nothing is too deep for arg's

thats the whole point of them being way deeper then people think

[shadow needle]

Well I think we might need to, according to Google, they are from New Zealand, there are only 3 of them, and they met over another project?

[hasty adder]

I mean if you wanna dig through 3 plus year old messages after the creator of the ARG stated that they will make the next clues more visible. Then be my guest?

[shadow needle]

They also TRY to make games that are weird like this apparently

[hasty adder]

And each of em had ARGs I think?

[hard shard]

New Zealand is the real ARG.

[shadow needle]

And maybe they are misleading us in assumption that we will just assume to not look, because they said so.

[humble warren]

almost like denmark

[shadow needle]

We could probably find something

[hard shard]

It's just one of the community managers running if it I recall.

[humble warren]

I only realized there is an ARG happening yesterday after the cursed dev blog

[shadow needle]

Oh. This has been going on since the game got released

They have an environment artist

Should we contact her

I found her name

Actually

Maybe not a good idea

[hasty adder]

I was about to say don't dox people

[shadow needle]

Don't wanna get anyone fired

Because it's 9:37 where I'm at

Im in america

So that guys you messaged might not respond for a while

[humble warren]

the creator did say that this wont have any irl locations or calling random numbers

[undone orchid]

So why is there a court looking room with modeled candles and American flags?

I'm new to this so I've been trying to read up a bit

[undone orchid]

On that Carcosa package, did anyone translate the stamp on it?

[tough lava]

On the gas station map, there's a body with the head blown off and blood all over the wall and floor, and the body is in a perhaps unnatural position. Is it possible that this was made by the the lost?

[hard shard]

Pretty sure he just had a real bad day at the hands of some armed thieves.

[tough lava]

Yeah. I just thought it was weird to have that kind of gore exposition on a 'normal' gas station robbing job

[atomic solstice]

Its in the trailer

[undone orchid]

Has anyone else read the Labyrinth script in HQ?

[humble warren]

there are more dead bodies around

[left bough]

labyrinth script?

[undone orchid]

yeah, it's page 30 from the script with some parts blacked out

[humble warren]

some of the stuff in HQ are just easter eggs, like Lithuanian UFO sighting

which is weird to be Lithuanian but oh well

[undone orchid]

I typed out all the blacked out parts but never sent it because I didn't want to flood the channel

[undone orchid]

Could be, I also wanna translate the wingding on that package but i'm lazy 😄

[humble warren]

what package?

[undone orchid]

the Carcosa one?

[humble warren]

also it's slightly weird for US police to be using Russian munition boxes and especially that they have 1 very long word which I cant read due to quality which starts with temperature and then goes on

[hard shard]

I mean, there is an AK. Maybe just bulk bought Russian ammo for it

[humble warren]

but why all the ammo is russian

[hard shard]

Wolf is cheap bro

well

was

[humble warren]

also it should be US made AK ammo not russian

[maiden bobcat]

@hasty adder has anything been tried as to use take the letters, replace them with 1-26 numbers, then run them through gwynnstitution?

Specifically in the the truth hides MLO poster.

MLTHETRUTH131215

[graceful flame]

homie got his mind blown.

[hasty adder]

I don't know what you're talking about poster-wise

[deft oyster]

It was in the recent trailer update on a poster board let me scroll up to the pictures

[novel pawn]

What's happening so far

[deft oyster]

On the top right of the board

[hasty adder]

The message is deleted

[deft oyster]

Uh it’s there for me ok

[novel pawn]

You think we can call some of these numbers?

[deft oyster]

No none of the numbers are real

[novel pawn]

I mean

[left bough]

no

[novel pawn]

it'd be funny

damn

😭

[deft oyster]

On the top right poster for the USIA there’s a message that says MLTHETRUTH131215

Which is a direct translation to MLO

[hasty adder]

The numbers are a1z26 for M L O

[novel pawn]

What'd you use to translate it

Gywnn or what ever it is

[hasty adder]

Just swap a letter for its position in the alphabet

A is 1, z is 26

13 is M, 12 is L, 15 is O

[novel pawn]

oh

Smart man

😓

[deft oyster]

Not sure what else there is to gain from it but it’s there

[hasty adder]

I guess an in-game reference to mlo?

Which isn't super common

[maiden bobcat]

Yeah that's why I said change the letters to numbers.

Then use gwynnstitution to see if it makes anything of note.

[ancient dirge]

Wouldn't that give you the same word

Nevermind

[hasty adder]

It would turn into mush I think

[ancient dirge]

But the Gwynstation cant work on number

[hasty adder]

Check the doc for the gwyn table. It works with numbers

I just forgot to add the table lmao

[left bough]

eh

didn't work other way around either

[clever pilot]

I tried translating the steam announcement conclusion which looked different from the discord’s debrief and changing the characters using ROT12 from GOB RIOBB to San Duann

Dunno if that means anything or has been brought up. (Tried scrolling up on mobile and haven’t seen any talk about it)

[graceful flame]

San Duann?

hmmmmm.

[novel pawn]

does this dog mean anything

[eager atlas]

Dog means dog

[novel pawn]

Thug shaker?

[ancient dirge]

isnt GOB RIOB the thing that leads to BREAKFREE

the nubmers

[clever pilot]

Could also have a double meaning since reading the document, it also Translates to BREAKFREE in the Gwynn table. This is a stretch, but maybe break free in San Duann?

[graceful flame]

if its a double meaning the implication of its existence completely fucks us

but for the sake of progress

i hope you're right

[clever pilot]

Yeah, I just figured out about Gwynn’s cipher so I don’t think my idea works

[ancient dirge]

Yeah, I think it's just a Coincedence with cyphers

[halcyon canopy]

Could be a new location

San lines up with a few of the cities in Cali, so if they wanted to add another city for use, San Duann could be a good fit

[ancient dirge]

if it was a city wouldn't the name need to be of Spanish origin?

[eager atlas]

Not necessarily

Could also be unofficial names for a community

Like how people call Chinese communities "China town" or Haitian areas "Little Haiti"

[ancient dirge]

Were there any texts that had Double Meanings like this in the past?

[plucky rivet]

They way the arms/ hands were set the first time I saw it as well as location of missing skull pieces I just assumed suicide. Which always stuck out to me unless the robbers/ whatever was the last straw? idk

[plucky rivet]

Has anyone tried searching for the missing children names in the Valley of the Dolls tape names yet?

[snow echo]

So the conclusion numbers means break free. Is that a new key? Just wrapping my head around the cipher context

Maybe not group the whole paragraph into one long sentence? Treat the italicized and the normal letters as different sets?

Each phrase alternates between the two different text fonts. I see people just grouping the whole thing into one paragraph

[left bough]

is there any program or something to decode the ones needing gwynn?

[ancient dirge]

Not to my knowledge

[left bough]

well i made one, but it crashes if the output is selected wrong

[ancient dirge]

It's a unique affine Affine one

But DeCaff posted a table for it

[left bough]

well i made it into a program

cause i have nothing better to do

wanna take it for a test?

[ancient dirge]

What language

[left bough]

uhhh, what language it was coded in?

[ancient dirge]

yeah

[left bough]

c#

[ancient dirge]

oh darn

[left bough]

is that a good or bad 'oh darn'?

[ancient dirge]

No, Just a Java User, so I'd have to download more stuff

[left bough]

i don't think you'd need to download anything

unless you want the whole project thing

cause it compressed it into an exe

though i guess i just don't know

[ancient dirge]

that would work

but not a big fan of downloadoing exe from people on discord

[left bough]

yeah, fair

[ancient dirge]

hey if it works it works

[left bough]

aye

at least now i have a nice little thing to speed up my deciphering of the codes that use the gwynn table thing

[plucky rivet]

Ok. Out of work finally. Listening to the Valley_TapeWhispers, the audio definitely sounds modulated the same way all the way through. I'm just not familiar with this type of processing. It sounds similar to a RingMod circuit or effect but it very well could be Frequency Mod or possibly AM? Any audio peeps that could chime in?

[left bough]

valley_tapewhispers?

[plucky rivet]

File was in my downloads. I assumed it came from in here. Even weirder then...

It's the audio file from the Valley of the Dolls tape machine in the "Shrine" room

[left bough]

huh

[plucky rivet]

Yeah it did come from discord at the least. Probs a link provided overnight or might have been from somewhere else.

If anyone wanted to try it

I can make out "Please don't do it" in the first section but after that I'm kind of lost. A spectrogram shows that it looks like the second thing said was added as a separate take since we can see some some cut points but that's not unusual for something like this in a game

I was hoping to see something in here or find a particular frequency that stood out so we might be able to Demodulate it but I'm not certain I see anything

[graceful flame]

We thought the wave forms might be subtle Morse

[plucky rivet]

For anyone who may want to peek at this

[graceful flame]

I can’t transcript Morse accurately

so if anyone can

please take a crack

[left bough]

eh, i'm not even sure which parts are short and which ones are long

[graceful flame]

you’re gonna have to kinda eyeball it

[plucky rivet]

In the third major part of the waveform I can hear "You don't something" but I can't quite make it out

[ancient dirge]

Where the hell did you find this file?

[timid flume]

at 26 seconds it kinda sounds lik "you're right"

[plucky rivet]

THERE'

THERE'S 2 VOICES

34 Seconds, Adult male voice "What happened"

[timid flume]

sounds like what happened to the key

[plucky rivet]

I'm working on an isolation of the center channel that makes that voice way clearer. Just trying to clean it before I post it

It's super quiet

[ancient dirge]

Sounds like what about the Key

[plucky rivet]

Trying to compress it beings back the same distortion the original has

[timid flume]

yeah could be that too

[plucky rivet]

The kid speaking is always whispering

[timid flume]

the more i listen to it it's for sure "what about the key"

[ancient dirge]

then I think they say Wait!

[plucky rivet]

This is the raw isolated mono for it. It's super quiet and I have to boost the channel gain to hear clearly. Boosting too much leads to distortion

This is the boosted

[timid flume]

4 seconds "i hate that movie"?

[plucky rivet]

What happened and the other thing that sounds like the key are different voices

[plucky rivet]

I hate their movies would fit considering

[ancient dirge]

OH wait

maybe its that guy in the valley of dolls

and his partner

thinking about all those movie posters

[left bough]

i think the first thing is "this is dr.riven" or something

"i hate that movie"
"what is it"?

[plucky rivet]

IT IS

[left bough]

now who's "Dr.Riven"?

if that's what is actually said

[plucky rivet]

That totally changes the voice profile of who to listen for

[left bough]

after the "what is it" or "how goes it", there's like a bottle's cap hitting the floor

[jovial cradle]

hey guys, just a fun fact because i don't know if it will help you with anything, but anyway i saw someone earlier who went exploring the floor above the lobby and it inspired me to take a look myself, what i didn't find earlier is even bigger area even higher then this floor that appears to be the main entrance to the swat base.
Main points of interest to me are:

• the entire room that to me looks like some sort of gallery or official building
• the statue(statues, there is one on each side)
• the checkpoint in front of a staircase going down(to the highest floor of our lobby base)
  maybe you knew, maybe not, just wanted to drop this here

one more thing, it was all dark, i just lighted up everything xD

[left bough]

a station building?

like a large metro station?

[jovial cradle]

above the "highest" floor rn

in the lobby

[left bough]

yeah

that would be overground

when the current lobby is underground in the metro tunnels

or at least seems to be

[jovial cradle]

yup

[plucky rivet]

Is there a rolling cart in the shrine room or anything? 27 seconds we hear a latch, sliding, then another latching sound

Screaming at 19 seconds from another room?

[ancient dirge]

At 30 it sounds like the younger person is saying Make it Stop, but it cut off by the other person.

[plucky rivet]

15 seconds, "Did you want me to something"

Possibly "Did you want me to help that"

[ancient dirge]

Yeah definetly

[plucky rivet]

I can't figure out 4 seconds at all

[ancient dirge]

At 43 it sounds like something referring to the key by saying "The one about" and somehting a name perhaps

[plucky rivet]

Hard D and Hard P in there but I can't make out what he's saying

A friend and I hear something along the lines of "We are mulching" or "We are all mulch here" at 43

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i definitely hear a wall clock

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Is there a chance that the valley pedo ring ties in to the new Spider map with what's his name?

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the smiley dude?

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That one has a Kidnap van, "Casting couch" and a "Smile room"

Yee

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very likely

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So I'm wondering if it's possible that this tape was recorded there as well?

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hm, i wonder if there's a clock

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Or possibly the hospital? Either way we won't know until those maps are finalized

Maybe there's a texture somewhere for a nameplate of Dr. Riven?

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keep in mind that it could also be anything that sounds similar to riven

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True

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so, uh, where'd this audio come from?

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That audio is from the Valley of the Dolls tape machine in the lower portion

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tape machine?

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There's a tape machine on the counter playing in the darkroom

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huh

welp, time to go clear the place

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Searching Agency now for anything Dr. Related

Nothing telling in Agency yet. We'll see if it's linked to the Valley ring somehow in the future I guess

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another question i have is, where would that poster thing be?

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I'm seeing similar ones set up around Agency but they're untextured. Possibly Gas Station?

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the dude running past it seemed like it could be from there