#šŖ¹the-sepulchre-arg
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binary is our hint ;_;
Fuck I'll run it again and see what I get.
i made a script to enumerate every possible valid alphabetical split, both 0-indexed for gwynn subst and 1-indexed for a1z26 subst, and none of them made sense. so we're pretty sure that isn't it
https://replit.com/@notready/cipher-splits#main.py
you can check my work if you want
Son of a fucking bitch I'll have to run binary again.
@gritty pilot
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@gritty pilot I'm not getting far here is all.
@gritty pilot gonna try one more thing
@ornate eagle @gritty pilot try hexdecimal
unless you're seeing anything interesting, i just tried it and don't see anything
I'm running different combos to see if anything changes.
image width 2755 and ppu 3779 produce 2 words
but they arent regular a1z26 or gwynn subst
already tried variations like that and no dice
FUCK! I feel dumb and useless now. :(
I even passed the thing onto one of my engineer friends.
fyi here are the tools i've been using
https://gchq.github.io/CyberChef/ - encoding/decoding with various formats
https://binvis.io/#/ - image forensics
https://29a.ch/photo-forensics/ - image forensics
I've just been going between different decoding sights and I'm just lost. What if this is a code we have to input into a keypad in the update?
long-ass code
I know, but it'd be more secure than a four digit.
if anyone else tries this; https://v2.cryptii.com/octal/text
with a seperator of 0 on input 16732266154100745600000000000000000000000000000000000000000
do you also get ꔹ¼®? (google translate says "pick up") But I do NOT know Mandarin lol
Given everything that was written so far was done in English, I doubt that's it.
Good point
updated the doc for anyone confused. We're currently on Lead 2
Leaving this here for you all. I'm going to restructure the current document to make it much tidier. However, in case anyone wants a record of EVERYTHING in the document currently, I've archived it and you can access the archive here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lNcWxrtdJ8ZHuXpQHsAW81Cw5SCQWQi6otn-DX6XSQY/edit?usp=sharing
So, I was onto something with binary.
I tried to convert from binary to hexadecimal and got nothing.
@ornate eagle @gritty pilot
Tried binary to letter and I'm starting to think some of these numbers need to be spaces out. Tried this.
16732 26615 41007 45600 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 0000
Converted that to binary, then tried to turn into text.
what kinds of engineers? i'm in tech and feeling simlarly useless
Chemical iirc, he works on fuel.
nice
Fuck this one has me.
i dont think it's as hard as we're making it out to be, idk what we're doing wrong
Yeah, I'm actually totally unsure.
@ornate eagle @gritty pilot watch as we find out that the update's waiting for us to solve this before they release it lmao.
That would fucking suck lol.
nice spot, thank you
Also, we know that the Lost account's current name is A1z26 code for Home, though I'm unsure of what that has to do with anything
Maybe we missed something in the image
A guess could be that Culling the tumor and cutting away the rot means that we need to remove something for us to continue? If so, what?
i dont think so. this is dialogue between 2 unidentified characters
I think it's more what the Lost believe they have to do
P1 was recruited by P2. "Cull the tumor..." was what they repeated back to the recruiter, practically confirming "I know what my orders are"
Can we assume that the stuff from that one Twitter post is part of the conversation?
Also...how many maps is the spider graffiti on? I know both Port Hoken and the crackhouse have it.
I got nothing and same with loaf and eli.
Hmmm, did you guys already talk about the possible connection between the warped and promotional image?
yeah. the warped image is a flipped version of the promo image, with the heads edited to be spooky (people think it's tree branches, or fungal growth)
I mean, the symbolism behind it. Especially after the convo, I'm thinkin that the person dying was the "tumor"
Is it time to spam Guin again
Guin said that we should look beyond just letter ciphers, so it's probably not gonna be a substitution table. Wouldn't that mean we need a key phrase or word?
these are my notes on her hints about this so far
So we need to tear that image apart then.
things we've tried so far
I also checked for embedded messages in the file.
("stega" is short for "steganography", which is the common way to refer to hidden messages in files)
Oh, okay then. My bad.
oh that wasn't a correction, that was just me clarifying my shorthand
I know I tried binary and got nowhere.
I tried hexadecimal to binary and got nowhere too.
I also attempted running a bunch of effects on the image like edge detect
and a bunch of other effects that basically rip it apart lol
Maybe flip the numbers and try putting them through a variety of cipher decoders?
yup
I also attempted octal code to text.
Dunno. I feel like the image being flipped has some signifigance
Nada. Tried octal to binary to text. Nothing.
I will run the effects on the image again and post them here
Edge detect using Sobel method. Factor of 5
Kaleidoscope. Prolly nothing here but it looks cool...
Emboss
It looks like the logo has a bunch of itself stacked on top of each other. Could this be multiple stacked images?
Does it make anything if you combine all those?
well the images look like a person in a hooded robe standing between 2 dead trees
partially looks like a canid skull but itās just a long stretch
I flipped the numbers, then ran them through binary.
Ty
also @patent dagger
with the non horror version of the image, are both of them police?
or could one dude be a MLO guy?
ya, I got it saved
I take it as the recruited guy "culling" the tumor. I'd suspect probably them killing an officer getting too close to something
do we have any screenshots of the MLO guys? I could compare the two
the flashlight is either hidden or not shown on the model
the other bits look like swat stuff
Do we have the original source of the non-warp image? Like, the SWAT version
Maybe if that one has numbers as well we can combine them in some way?
ya you rite @patent dagger
Actually, since I don't follow it much. Is the guy with the NVG supposed to be Judge?
Yes
I think I'm looking a bit too deep into the symbolism here. I do wonder what it's supposed to mean though with Judge represented so warpy
maybe he did something, I dunno
I started getting too into the flipped thing and read their conversation backwards, substituting a bit. As in they're in this situation, P1 dying, Judge holding them being P2. Doesn't make much sense.
Do we remember what website they used to send the audio files by the way? I feel like the numbers could be connected to another link or something
yeah it was file.io
Haven't kept up with this for a few days. It's not Carcosa anymore?
Ah a second one, thank you
@ornate eagle honestly the only thing I can think of is asking for help
I'm out of all ideas.
Go for it
@fickle finch Help. We don't know where to start and we're lost.
We tried just about everything we could come up with and we have no leads at all outside of speculation. Also please don't ban me for asking for help.
Actually there's one thing I wanna try 
Dang. Didn't work. I was hoping I was gonna be big brain and reverse image search it to see if there was a secret page or somethin
Yeah, don't worry. I just feel bad for having to ask.
They did say it'd be one of the harder ones. I imagine it's about doing specific steps in a specific order
I was hoping I was onto somethin by using a number cipher and then copy pasting what we get into the file.io website, whatever looked like a link at least
Even tried it forwards n backwards
tried that no dice
BANNED FOREVER
There are multiple steps to this cipher. It's not as simple as X to number or X to letter
oh š¦
Are you able to say how many steps we'd have to take to reach the end?
sorry for the ping Guin.
okay trying new thing now
ran this thing as a hexadecimal to text
correction hexadecimal to decimal
got this:
VOKHV0IDOZKSSOBDCDHKIDZOVHSVSDDVWKHOVGKSKDRDODS0V0DOD0SWKSQSDZO
Hi i was wondering is there a video explaining what the puzzle so far is? ty
there's a Google doc
thank you ā¤ļø
New to this chat what are we discussing here
Check da pins
@ionic storm they are solving an ARG which is essentially a puzzle made by the devs to discover lore that makes you utilize real world principles, history, and sometimes locations. ARG is Alternate Reality Game you can google more about them.
does this channel means like the iceberg of the story?
Something like "RON iceberg explained"
Ok guys, I presume you cant play with normal players if youre running the supporter beta right?
Rong channel tho, friend
riight i'll just delete my msgs
@ornate eagle been looking at the string you sent to Guin. Will tell you if I make any progress with it. Seems that string might somewhat be of value.
You guys probably already figured this out but this is totally the MLO (Mariposa Lily Organization)
First image sounds like it relates to them being veterans, second image says āblossomingā and theyāre named after a flower, and the bottom one sounds related to nationalism but maybe itās the cult
Iām still new to this ARG so forgive me for any newbie mistakes
We oughta just organize some task forces to secure the maps and then search them up and down for evidence
Currently there is no in game clues for the ARG, according to guin
Ah damn
I feel like this is going to be a mix of Payday 2 and Hotline Miami shit where we have to figure out a code.
Maybe there is a keyword we use as a solution?
I mean it says void in it, but probably coincidence?
Probably a coincidence if I had to guess, I bullshitted that key.
See
Could it be a qr code?
Apparently binary was a good step, since it isn't gonna to just be a simple substitution cipher. We probably have to translate the filename into something first?
And we still haven't found the goodies in the image just yet either
Changing the colors of the pics? Maybe inverting them?
Cause its strange how the letters are stacked
Like your mentioned
maybe when it comes to cutting out the rot, maybe cutting out numbers in the filename?
cause all of those zeros are strange
I took that and converted hexidecimal to text and got this,
32 20 41 41 36 35 20 30 32 37 46 20 31 44 45 46 20 39 42 46 46 20 34 37 46 46 20 39 37 32 37 20 35 39 44 34 20 41 35 37 32 20 45 33 34 42 20 43 30 30 30 20 30 30 30 30 20 30 30 30 30
ive been trying this in different ways and nothing seems to be making sense
it got me thinking about deciphering letters with a keyword though. Like using "rot" as the keyword
You could try Home too. The Lost account has it's name set to that in the A1z26 style
i made a doc to supplement loafcat's doc that has links to a bunch of different image manipulations we've tried
https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1WpiTr7rAJZdnXG_Xn5Fu5wbmkZ3TtZ4j?usp=sharing
Don't tag mods
Yes I saw that thanks!
Sadly this is all out of my expertise. Wait until the devs send us to Louisiana and we all "disappear" under mysterious circumstances.
More like California, since that's where mariposa lilies are plentiful
It's hard to tell if the channel header is a hint or just more MLO or Lost propaganda
Well shit, legally I'm not exactly welcome there with my past.
Iād wager MLO since it sounds like some nationalist bullshit lol
I think itās a hint though, Guin wouldnāt give us bullshit clues
Remember that guin is the puppet master. They can help AND hurt the investigation
Plenty of red herrings and such
If anything this has gotten me into decrypting stuff and ciphers, so thanks for the new hobby guin
I think my specialty is gonna have to be lore theories because I suck at numbers and shit lol
I think Port Hokan is gonna be used by the Lost as a way of getting victims for sacrifices or something
I remember that map tying in to this somehow but I donāt remember the specifics
Ok so I know there's no direct clues in game but do you guys think these are Lost/MLO guys? The mask seems pretty culty to me
I swear one dude with the mask spawns on port raid every time
Unless they've changed the MLO models, he's not one of them. They're typically very militarized or basically same level of gear as SWAT.
one of the suspects on Hotel had a "POLICE" vest on and similar gear to that
Anyone do any String Extraction for the image HOME sent? Gonna try and see if any of the strings mean anything.
Haven't heard if that
It basically just changes the picture into a bunch of strings, trying out a few ways of decrypting to see if the strings mean anything, could be nothing tho. Anything on the filename of it?
It's a long string of numbers. Guin says that it is a multi-step cipher, not just a simple substitution
Or at least hinted at it.
Yeah, from what I understand and from what Guin said, it seems that way
They said that someone was on the right path by trying to translate it to binary. Maybe it's encrypted with Xor?
we really cant figure out how to decode the filename š¦
Yeah, gonna move on to the filename, I did get something from Loaf Cat's string to Guin
Almost a "Cut" in the translation
with just some basic decryption and translation
Might be a dead end though. Gonna try taking a look at it further tho
Me: Sees cut
The channel description: 
Precisely
Also, just taking a look at the image one more time
Error Level Analysis revealed this:
Looks like a .exe creepy pasta
Unwarped:
Pretty sure I see the Boogey man from Nightmare Before Christmas in the top left
yes i have tried that ;_;
It might mean something but for now, Image Forensics is a little bit of a dead end at the moment.
Could try and check to see if a Hex Editor would be of much use for this
what would you xor it with?
i've done xor, or, and, add, multiplication on the filename plus the message text. but it could very well be an xor with some other message
@ancient vessel hi
Dunno, a xor needs an input number to compare with, and it only works with binary too
unite us.
Well that could work. I wonder what we can combine to make this work
@ornate eagle @gritty pilot @maiden bobcat @patent dagger
a hello
Damn it you better not be in on this too
https://twitter.com/RexCityFr?t=8ji2A5W3Yx0tJPIU38O-2w&s=09
Anything on this guy's Twitter that can help? He's got some interesting photos of RON
Ok so the lost say things related to āunite usā
P2: Our vow, our life, and yours, fading away. Each flame, melting, dripping, dying. We sing for them, we bleed for them, we mourn them. Unwanted, buried, forgotten, searching for home, to return.
P1: Melting. I want to forget. Hold me. Wait with me, for a while. Just for a minute. I'm not ready to go yet.
P2: That's not how the game is played. The rules changed on you, and where did it bring you? To your knees.
P1: I want to forget, why canāt I forget?
P2: You come to me, impatient, insolent. Begging for deliverance. All in time. We will free you. All will be made clear. All will be well. Just relax. Let go. Breathe. Remember. Nothing is ever lost. Only mulched.
P1: There are no dead ends. Cull the tumor. Flourish. Burn. Unite us.
@ornate eagle
Interesting indeed
That's from the Witcher I think
Sadge
Says it in the caption and everything, it's been a long few hours bois š
Was just about to say. it's sick
We get a better view of that flower as well tbf
Eugh, getting really lost with the Filename
And I've tried doing damn near everything to that image, and I can't seem to dig up anything to either the original or the unswirled versions
I've tried finding the differences between the horror and normal versions which didn't drum up anything
No hidden info in any source page either. If the image has something juicy in it, it's not gonna be found by changing shadows and stuff it seems
As for the file name, I'm a bit stuck on where to begin. It's not just a simple substitution cipher, so we'll probably have to translate the numbers to something like binary or hex or so
Looks more like a clover than a flower
It's been confirmed that it's a type of flower though. Look back at the Carcosa content.
Oh then it's probably a trillium
That's what most people say and tbf I would agree
I think it's covered in the Carcosa coverage videos by DueRag95
i think heās just some sort of GFX guy with the models, idk
hes one of the mods here,martin i thought his name was
that's martin's twitter
he does sfm art, I don't think it's anything related to the ARG
you see my edit?
As it relates to the dialogue at least.
unite us at the end?
Check it again.
Ask guin if I'm right?
? i re-read it, it's identical to the current one with "Unite us" at the end, right?
Yeah, because original unite us was second to last. I switched it to the last part.
oh i dont have unite us in the solution bit yet
im not certain, but to me, "unite us" sounds like it's P2 rather than P1
Like this?
P2: Our vow, our life, and yours, fading away. Each flame, melting, dripping, dying. We sing for them, we bleed for them, we mourn them. Unwanted, buried, forgotten, searching for home, to return.
P1: Melting. I want to forget. Hold me. Wait with me, for a while. Just for a minute. I'm not ready to go yet.
P2: That's not how the game is played. The rules changed on you, and where did it bring you? To your knees.
P1: I want to forget, why canāt I forget?
P2: You come to me, impatient, insolent. Begging for deliverance. All in time. We will free you. All will be made clear. All will be well. Just relax. Let go. Breathe. Remember. Nothing is ever lost. Only mulched. Unite us.
P1: There are no dead ends. Cull the tumor. Flourish. Burn.
@ornate eagle
maybe not there specifically. there's likely more dialogue to put together
Yeah it was either there or the last part is how I figured it.
copying things ive said in nda server
Sombra arg has xor against a constant value https://wiki.gamedetectives.net/index.php?title=Sombra_ARG
xoring against integers from 0 to 99 inclusive doesn't work :'(
https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1WpiTr7rAJZdnXG_Xn5Fu5wbmkZ3TtZ4j?authuser=3#scrollTo=CIpDBN2MIzt1&line=2&uniqifier=1
just a hunch, but i really think it's an
xor
Nda?
If it is Xor, then we will need both a key and we need to translate the filename into something that br deciphered with xor
We have a bunch of options for keys at the very least
yeah i tried xoring each byte with integers 0 through 99 inclusive
taking inspiration from the solution to another arg
I'm thinking it would be "Home."
Considering that Home hasn't been used in anything else, it's a possibility
we could try a1z26 on the numbers, then use a vigenere cipher?
Should we use the Gwynn table or the standard a1z26 table?
That 100 inside of it messes that up though
a1z26 requires splitting the numbers in order to translate. there are many possible ways to split the numbers into values 1-26 for valid a1z26 decryption. brute-forcing a vignere cipher on all of those possibilities is a large possibility space
Also should we flip it?
also, if we're to assume this xor encryption is a one-time pad, the xor key must be at least as long as the ciphertext. "home" is not long enough, so we could try "homehomehomehome..." to fill up the extra space...
The repeating zeros kind of fuck me up. If they are part of the solution, then they mess up any type of binary encoding we can do
repeating home is a decent way for the vigenere cipher
Guin table should only be used for hints given by guin, right?
xor is different from vigenere. for vigenere the key can be "home". for xor the key has to be the same length as the ciphertext
xor also needs to be divided into 8ths, and there is no way to do that with all of the numbers given
Not to mention it'd have to be in a binary format
ascii characters are stored as 1 byte (8 bits) per character, so if you use the ascii encoding for each of the digits, that is the binary representation
as in ascii, 0 is represented by 48 in decimal, which is 00110000
What about the entirety of the dialogue as the key?
Or at least segments alone?
"You can be so much more if you cut away the rot."
What about that?
48 characters long
How many characters is the string of numbers?
59
Fuck.
still worth a shot, considering a lot of those characters are 0's anyways, right?
Yes.
sigh
hYBQSXSPB_ZAV^]_BUYVI_ESEDQGQIDXUB_D
FW^GE_BYYTQ[GQGXY\UZECDV_BQ]Y^EDUY]^_DBUQTI
fS{S[ZhZArXF[_VbECDgUrEBIi_E|_CDD_eC
YYZVZ][SYZYTX_ZQ]Y]UX_]UX_]UX_]UX_]UX_]UX_]UX_]UX_]UX_]UX_]
Wait that's good.
Try rot 13.
that's the output of xor on four different strings
from itertools import cycle
ciphertext = bytes(filename, encoding="ascii")
messages = [
"You can be so much more if you cut away the rot.",
"wait with me, for a while. just for a minute. i'm not ready to go yet.",
"We Hail You, Born of Rust. We Bury You, Lost to Us.",
"homehomehomehomehomehomehomehomehomehomehomehomehomehomehome"
]
for msg in messages:
decrypted = []
for (x, y) in zip(ciphertext, bytes(msg, encoding="ascii")):
decrypted.append(x ^ y)
print(hex_to_text(bytes(decrypted)))
Have you tried running it through rot 13 or flipping it then doing that?
I mean the channel header is cutting away the rot. maybe that was the hint?
agree, i think "cut away the rot" refers to rot13 or a variation
This is some crazy stuff, guys, I was trying stuff with ROT13 last night but never got this close hahaha
But at the same time, guin themself said that this wont be a simple substitution
indeed. we just have to figure out how to get to the spot where we can apply rot13
I wasn't sure if it meant to scrap using rot altogether
But that eliminates potential solutions so I guess that shouldn't be done
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"cut away [the obfuscation from] the rot[13]"
We're still no where near solving it lmao
it looks pretty cool until you remember it's complete garbage :')
But it ain't just any garbage ā¤ļø
but persistence is the name of the game with cryptography. there are many ways to mangle bits and bytes, the vast majority of which are insecure and bad. breaking an insecure, known cipher is easy. the hard part is knowing which cipher you're breaking
That's were this number is fucking us up. If we cut all of the excess 0's off, that leaves us with 18 numbers
is that what it means to cut away the rot?
Not sure. Couldn't hurt to check
1. meaning of "cut away the rot"
1.1. rot13
1.2. remove trailing zeroes
2. how to treat the filename
2.1. as a string of ascii characters
2.2. as a single number, interpreted in binary (or some other base)
@ornate eagle words boy, do you have an opinion on the meaning of "cut away the rot"?
Holy fuck I was onto something.
What if the zeroes are supposed to be purposely misleading?
@gritty pilot
This mean anything or is it me being dumb?
And is it flipped?
What if we used the Gwynn cipher then ran it through r13?
Shot in the dark, but it wouldn't hurt.
This is what I got running it through a standard a1z26 cipher then putting it in rot13.
Will try on the Gwynn cipher now.
Gwynn cipher code. Standby for further.
Rot 13 from the Gwynn cipher. What now?
Trying the other rot ciphers.
Hack it! Use your fingerless gloves!!
Going to work now, but I have a small suspicion that the conversation that we keep building here might end up leading to some sort of stenography
Between p1 and p2 at least
I'm at a loss again.
https://multidec.web-lab.at/rot.php
@maiden bobcat use this site. it gives you every rotation
Stenographer could actually work here
Oh thanks.
No dice.
fiddlesticks
This is the above, backwards.
Holy shit.
P2: Our vow, our life, and yours, fading away. Each flame, melting, dripping, dying. We sing for them, we bleed for them, we mourn them. Unwanted, buried, forgotten, searching for home, to return.
P1: Melting. I want to forget. Hold me. Wait with me, for a while. Just for a minute. I'm not ready to go yet.
P2: That's not how the game is played. The rules changed on you, and where did it bring you? To your knees.
P1: I want to forget, why canāt I forget?
P2: You come to me, impatient, insolent. Begging for deliverance. All in time. We will free you. All will be made clear. All will be well. Just relax. Let go. Breathe. Remember. Nothing is ever lost. Only mulched. Unite us.
P1: There are no dead ends. Cull the tumor. Flourish. Burn. You can be so much more if you cut away the rot.
@ornate eagle
@gritty pilot motherfucker
explain?
The last part is a phrase about cutting shit away.
P1: There are no dead ends. Cull the tumor. Flourish. Burn. You can be so much more if you cut away the rot.
They're recruiting this person into cult, telling them they could be more.
yeah
It's Jim Jones/Rajneeshpuram type shit.
All of the hints we got were home from dialogue what if the channel description was the same?
Holy shieeet, Bois
defo a death cult
I just noticed/realized that.
@near egret
That's why I want to know where "unite us" goes.
Looking at this, the situation just keeps getting more mysterious and intense
we knew this was recruitment tho wdym
No, we did I'm just saying where the dialogue piece goes.
also @maiden bobcat there is some stuff that happened in the NDA discord last night that doesn't seem to be here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PEVmB78s9T0wmntGuN5MFjgVCLVB0PQahtPL1FBxtlI/edit#heading=h.ub42rlqql4h
read the sections "Encrypted messages 2 (19/01/2022)" and "Stand by the Lost"
What NDA discord
For supporters only
NDA = supporters only discord
I swear if this is a pay 2 win arg I'm gonna scream lol
I see.
I plan to buy the 80 dollar pack only for the FBI pack lmao.
Sec. I'm gonna see how these dialogue parts come together. This changes things.
That's dialogue, it fucking has to be.
so there was a component of the ARG that was supposed to be part of the supporters-only/alpha build. we tried doing it last night. but in the spirit of being an alpha, the in-game trigger for the ARG is bugged. because we had basically figured out how to trigger the ARG (after many, many hints from gwynn) and spent an hour and change standing around various spots in the altar waiting for a minute at a time to trigger it, gwynn threw us a bone. this was in the form of giving us the contents of "Encrypted messages 2 (19/01/2022)" described by loaf's doc
Standby while I piece this all together. I feel like I'm looking at a screenplay and someone's asking me to figure out where the fucked up script dialogue is supposed to go.
and by "part of the supporters-only build", i mean that it's part of the january update that will go public in ~10 days when devs are happy they've ironed out major bugs supporters are finding
Got it.
I have the terrible suspicion as well that we are making this infinitely harder on ourselves. It's hard to tell what we are missing from the image and filename, or if they are just red herrings
The only thing I noticed about the image filename is that no number goes above 7
P2: Our vow, our life, and yours, fading away. Each flame, melting, dripping, dying. We sing for them, we bleed for them, we mourn them. Unwanted, buried, forgotten, searching for home, to return.
P1: Melting. I want to forget. Hold me. Wait with me, for a while. Just for a minute. I'm not ready to go yet.
P2: That's not how the game is played. The rules changed on you, and where did it bring you? To your knees.
P1: I want to forget, why canāt I forget? You waited, you stood for me, for us!
P2: You come to me, impatient, insolent. Begging for deliverance. All in time. We will free you. All will be made clear. All will be well. Just relax. Let go. Breathe. Remember. Nothing is ever lost. Only mulched. Unite us. We will blossom together. Nourish us. Break free.
P2: Reunited, the dawn is near.
P1: There are no dead ends. Cull the tumor. Flourish. Burn. You can be so much more if you cut away the rot.
This is what I have so far.
And I've done damn near everything to that image too. I'm not sure what else we can do to it that anyone else already has
@hasty adder have you guys tried putting the images on top of each other and overlaying them one over the other?
the 6 spooky faces?
I just tried it, but the online thing I was using wasn't very good
i tried putting them on top of one another in GIMP but i didn't find anything. although i didn't try that hard
Make them transparent.
how? lower opacity? "overlay" or "multiply" blend mode? key alpha by color value? i've tried all but the last
Mess around with the opacity.
And figure out which layers go on top of what.
I'm at work so, yeah-
I can't really mess with that.
@gritty pilot layer the images on top of each other messing around with the opacity of each
I did mess around with the pictures earlier on this morning
suggest small change
-P2: Reunited, the dawn is near.
P1: There are no dead ends. Cull the tumor. Flourish. Burn. You can be so much more if you cut away the rot.
+P2: Reunited, the dawn is near.
result:
P2: Our vow, our life, and yours, fading away. Each flame, melting, dripping, dying. We sing for them, we bleed for them, we mourn them. Unwanted, buried, forgotten, searching for home, to return.
P1: Melting. I want to forget. Hold me. Wait with me, for a while. Just for a minute. I'm not ready to go yet.
P2: That's not how the game is played. The rules changed on you, and where did it bring you? To your knees.
P1: I want to forget, why canāt I forget? You waited, you stood for me, for us!
P2: You come to me, impatient, insolent. Begging for deliverance. All in time. We will free you. All will be made clear. All will be well. Just relax. Let go. Breathe. Remember. Nothing is ever lost. Only mulched. Unite us. We will blossom together. Nourish us. Break free.
P1: There are no dead ends. Cull the tumor. Flourish. Burn. You can be so much more if you cut away the rot.
P2: Reunited, the dawn is near.
I did get something weird with Error Level Analysis
Shit, yeah that sounds arguably better.
im working from home so i can goof off a little but not enough to do graphics stuff. i guess it'll have to wait
I'll glance at it on paint .net when I get home in an hour.
pix!!!
Right here, sirs
i think this rainbowy bit might be interesting
but also do ELA on the original promo image, you'll see that the red/purple-ish stuff on their torsos was already there
Ah okay, tbf I never got to look at the original promo pics, but yeah deffo the rainbowish bits there was interesting
Might need to convert those to hexcodes
@ornate eagle see @gritty pilot 's post.
Oh yeah, I meant I never got to analyze the original pics hahaha, currently at work but I'm finished in about an hour and a half and I'll do some more work on it āļø
I didn't see anything in em, but someone else can give it a try
Anyone use the Sleuth Kit yet for any of the pics actually?
definitely is dialogue, however, the nature of it suggests it's come from a different date
what's that? google give me something about forensics on hard drives/disk images, which aren't "images" in the same sense of the word
note the tone of the Lost here. They're not scared, they're not uncertain. It's confident, they've found their courage. Either a) the recruitment process somehow massively influences one's state of mind, perhaps turning them into a being without sympathy or fear, or b) this is from a much later date where the Lost has found that courage through some experience or self-discovery
Oh yeah I know but you can still import files into it I'm pretty sure to have a look at it further
Haven't used it in a while now but I'll take a look later on
nice nice
I don't want to @ guin because I don't want to get banned lmao.
tbh i think the dialogue can go on hold until we get more stuff tbh
main thing rn is Lead 3 and 4
although Lead 4 is sadly on hold
Lead 3 has got me stumped sadly.
"That's not how the game is played...and where did it bring you? To your knees"
Yep.
Anything new?
only more gibberish
spider are you stalking mešļø
@ornate eagle @gritty pilot honestly I think this just needs different opacity settings
did you try messing with the opacity?
you can do that if you want. i'm going to continue playing numberwang
Interesting. When you fuck with level sweep and set it to max, only a colored partial part of the image is shown
I'm not really sure what else to do, or at least how useful I can be because all of this is beyond me now. š¦
Well, as they said, it's likely just us taking the numbers and putting them through decoders in a certain order
This is your brain on 5gum
Curious thought. Those orders that we decoded; could we try to order The Lost for something?
Fuck it, I'll bite
@ancient vessel Make Whole
Inb4 I get stabbed in a dark alley somewhere
@ancient vessel Order
YOU THOUGHT WE WOULDN'T THINK OF THIS TOO NEGLECTED LIKE THE CHILD THROWN INTO THE DOGHOUSE
whoops didnt mean to paste that
makes them whole
has anyone looked closer at the discord server icon/banner yet?
oh ok lmao
where is it in the alpha testing? which map?
The result is already in one or both of the docs
152233216203_2210_16134157.png
This one does sort of follow the other image's rule that no number is going above 7
This might work with octal?
foo = int("16732266154100745600000000000000000000000000000000000000000", 8)
print(format(foo, 'x')) # => 77696c6c207970000000000000000000000000000000
bar = "77 69 6c 6c 20 79 70"
print(hex_to_text(bytes.fromhex(bar)))
will yp
interpret filename as octal integer
format into hexadecimal
take hex representation, remove trailing zeroes, add spaces to group into single bytes
convert to ascii
@hasty adder what do you think. am i off the deep end?
It never hurts to check, but I dunno anymore. It could just be a coincidence, but then again there are not many ways I can find to cipher numbers
We just have to try different combos until something sticks
The fucc happened here?
Just remember to cut off those extra zeros for now. They don't seem to help with anything
With the zeros cut off we get 18 units. If we also get rid of the 2 remaining zeroes inside the number line we could get 16 units
But that probably isn't needed
this is my current strategy
i think for sure that part of this cipher is "take a bunch of bytes from individual characters and remove the spaces between them in order to get Big Number"
simplest way to get big number, Occam's razor
16, 73, 22, 66, 15, 41, 00, 74, 56
167, 322, 661, 541, 007, 456
167322, 661541, 007456
167322661, 541007456
167, 32, 26, 61 54, 100, 74, 56
Trying different equal length combos
1673, 2266 1541, 0074, 5600
i hope we shouldn't have to do that
I hope not either, but we've tried a ton of equations just publically, much less on our own
Have we tried turning the image into a different file type and try reading any hidden comments? Maybe jpeg?
It had hidden files, but were garbage?
so, for context: the way a file identifies itself as a certain type is usually by putting some special bits at the beginning of the file, because these values have to be well-known and hard-coded, sometimes they're referred to as "magic numbers"
this is how you can tell something is a png even if you change the name to have a different file extension. programs will often rely on the file extension as a quick easy way to tell the format, but you've probably experienced opening a "txt" file in notepad that was actually just full of binary that looks like hot garbage. good programs will usually just throw an error and tell you to come back with a file that's actually formatted correctly
so knowing this, you could hide files of one format in the file of another format, but the magic numbers to identify the filetype will give it away. however, at the end of the day everything is 0's and 1's so it's very possible for magic numbers to show up all over your file even though there's nothing actually hidden there
therefore if you find a "hidden file" that looks like garbage and smells like garbage, that's probably because it's actually garbage
tldr yes
Gross. And image manipulation is proving fruitless too
If we just had an idea of what "rot" we needed to cut, I'm sure we'd find it pretty quickly
The zeros seem to obvious though. Maybe it's something in the string of numbers that aren't zeroes
given how tight lipped gwynn has been and the nature of her other hints for this clue, it seems like giving away any additional information would make the cipher trivial
So that must mean it's either simple and we are sailing over the answer constantly, or that the final piece of information is that important
i think we're really close
- the number is a bunch of little numbers in a trench coat
- we must cut away the rot
i think the zeroes are the most obvious. but yeah maybe gwynn cipher is in there
i think the one of the latest clues we've gotten has helped me recalibrate on the difficulty
You mean for lead 6?
I doubt that we'd jump off the cliff of difficulty after doing a1z26 and affine ciphers for so long. It's a step up for sure but nothing drastic like we've been doing
like this clue literally tells you to go to a directory and fuck with the bank files
BANK ROBBER
FOR WHAT YOU
SEEK
LEVELS/LOBBY
Is that something recent? I thought those were alpha files from long ago
the files were in there since the 12th maybe
but the in-game trigger was bugged until a bugfix released today
What about the memorial? Can we stand with the lost yet?
read the thing i linked pls
I didn't know if it was fixed today or not, whoops
I used your collab quite a bit tbh. It has a ton of good resources
that makes me rly happy, thank you

but yeah i just updated it a bit. its almost 3am here so im gonna sleep. if you don't crack it by the time i wake up, hopefully it will come to me in a dream
It's 4am, I'm right with you brother
(will add pics to that section tmrw... loaf will also be updating his doc too)
It's almost becoming overwhelming how many leads we are going down. If one is a key to another, maybe we can revisit parts we are stuck on
Lol what is this?
ARG
can anyone confirm this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6lu3FO_YFU
@echo solstice phishing link
This is very cool! But were still on lead 3 correct?
Lead 3 is stuck, and lead 4 is on since the bug seems to have been fixed in game
Eli's collab research page shows more, but lead 4 has an in game easter egg where if you stand near the lone chair in the memorial room in silence for one minute, garbled music will play that leads to the next lead
Strange, I can't see to recreate it
Maybe the number of zeros means something?
if ur not using supporter edition, you wont be able to get it to work yet!
Cringe
How many zeros is it at the end?
Looks for 40 dollars
Indeed
It's 41 zeros
Maybe replacing the zeroes with 41 or something
I don't feel like they would just put a bunch of zeroes there for no reason
@gritty pilot did we try this? not a terrible idea
Maybe you could use 41 as an operator on the rest of the string too? Like 167322661541007456Ć41 or what not. Idk I'm just spitballing at this point
oh i've tried 1673226615410074560000..... ^ 41 but not 167322661541007456 ^ 41
result gives me garbo
Just found out this game had an ARG. After reading all this it got me intrigued
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I saw that 
GWYNN STOMPED ON MY DREAMS AND I WAS WRONG OKAY
Dang
Did loaf cat experience a gamer moment
Alright I bought the supporter edition and installed the beta stuff, yet still nothing
@gritty pilot
i can try it with u tomorrow if it's still not working, but right now it's bed time
wow, just showed up.. late i see
With the 16732266154100745600000000000000000000000000000000000000000 code, has anyone tried using the nihilist cipher using the code word "ready". Could also be "ready or not" too I suppose.
I tried using a lot of random ciphers for grins but polybius seemed kinda promising but I think it's more likely that it's the nihilist cipher.
tfw feel dumb for not being sure how to do any of this
I had to ask a few friends(one a military crypotographer for help and one a computer programmer) and we still both got confused.
Yeah the in-game hint isn't fixed yet but we want to resolve that when the update is pushed. Thank you for your support though, I'm glad the ARG has had that positive impact š
Luckily we have a recording of it, so this isn't a huge issue atm. I mostly wanted it for archival reasons lmao
Now this fucking filename though, has made me lose sleep. It's not that big of a jump in difficulty, but I cannot translate those damn numbers to save my life
btw, Guinevere is it okay if I dm you with a question? It's not related to the ARG but RoN itself. Unless you have a better place to direct the question
Sure thing
May take me a bit to respond as I'm hopping between work and real life stuff rn
I'm asking folks in the old community I was a part of if they know.
I just can't get how I'm this bad at this lol
We all suck lol.
The fact I'm reaching out to old friends for help makes me weirded out.
A two step cipher involving a string of numbers
It spells out a sentence
The first step is more than likely translating it to some sort of binary type format
the nihilist cipher is two step
but wouldn't give a sentence and would only end up giving us a word or two
we also have no words to input
The issue is that it uses a polybius square, which uses digits 1-5
That is also a thing and I totally forgot what i did to get around that
but I'm relatively convinced it doesn't matter because I don't think it's the right cipher
im thinking that maybe some information was destroyed in the process of outputting a single integer... spaces/delimiters that would give us the correct values for individual bytes
which is probably why cryptanalysis on this thing is so damn hard
hey one thing that came to mind
it's a two step cipher
also the "You can be so much more if you cut away the rot"
makes me think that we should use a numeric cipher then translate those results using a rot cipher. Honestly probably rot13 would suffice unless we have a better idea
It's been done.
there is no real life, only Carcosa now. Join us, Blossom
I can only post the pink wojak in response because I don't know what I'm doing lmao.
This is interesting, but where do you start?
I'd say read up on the google docs and read up on what's going on with the current unsolved leads. tbh I'm still catching up on what we have and haven't tried
If you want to learn more about ciphers and game ARGs, game detective arg has a neat academy you can use to get a start
Get to decoding before I lose 4 more hours of sleep
balls
Everyone say it with me
BRING US TOGETHER.
BRING US TOGETHER
BRING US TOGETHER!
When we find out we're wrong.
P2: Our vow, our life, and yours, fading away. Each flame, melting, dripping, dying. We sing for them, we bleed for them, we mourn them. Unwanted, buried, forgotten, searching for home, to return.
P1: Melting. I want to forget. Hold me. Wait with me, for a while. Just for a minute. I'm not ready to go yet.
P2: That's not how the game is played. The rules changed on you, and where did it bring you? To your knees.
P1: I want to forget, why canāt I forget?
P2: You come to me, impatient, insolent. Begging for deliverance. All in time. We will free you. All will be made clear. All will be well. Just relax. Let go. Breathe. Remember. Nothing is ever lost. Only mulched.Ā
P1: There are no dead ends. Cull the tumor. Flourish. Burn. Bring us together.
oh.
Meanwhile, back at the filename
Someone explain to me what this is about
View the pinned Google doc
16732266154100745600000000000000000000000000000000000000000 needs to be solved
For context, this is (seemingly) the solution to the Lost's sixth message associated with the faces
Solved by Devildoc, myself and Loaf
Well here is what we have in terms of clues for the filename cipher.
-It is 2 step process
-It will spell out a sentence, most likely a key to something later
-It NEEDS to be solved, to make later clues possible/easier
-The number of zeros does not matter, but they may still be important.
- The file name is NOT a date. That was an coincidence
-Someone tried Binary and was onto something. Unconfirmed if binary is an actual step needed.
-We must think beyond just letter ciphers. It isn't just an x to number or x to letter cipher.
-The cipher is simple, but not exactly easy.
I'd also like to add that the resolution of the warped image is 2755 x 2628
I have a strong feeling this was done on purpose, especially when compared to the original image it's based on which is 3840x2160
I tried decoding it in a bunch of different ways including the backwards method but it didn't bring up anything meaningful. Still, keep an eye on it
cringe not based + no bitches
RIP to Meatloaf, don't know if it's been said in here yet.
who is meatloaf
a loaf, of meat!
hey have you check crack house yet
i found some shit
Weve seen these things before from hints and images
i wonder if the crack heads have somethung to do with carcosa
or sepulchre
shit i dint see that sory
Those images can be found on Ropolio's artstation, from there we found some of his other artwork that looked similar to the faces and entities VOID posted on their Twitter regarding the ARG
But nothing really significant came of it
got it i didnt see the images before and i thought i found something
<@&925148041126760529> all channels @midnight gulch


the 167 cipher still has us confused š¦
I made a small list of clues given to us if you need it. Just search my username for it
We should ask the question, "What ciphers are beyond just letter substitutions"
It's difficult to know what to make of the numbers. Are they letters like in a1z26, or are they in hex/octal? The only notable similarity is that no number goes above 7
If I knew that it mattered then Octal would be key somehow
But I have a strong hunch on that considering it's 0-7
So converting Octal to Hexidecimal to ASCII got me "will yp"
will y if you remove the zeros at the end of the hex
Since double zeros in hex make a space, perhaps the remaining translation needs to be found elsewhere?
it spells out BF2042 is shit
Now just imagine if it spells
something relating to the game's name
Hopefully the main screen dots and dashes are not morse code as they are unequal and if translated, does not mean anything.
And all those numbers could be converted into alphabets although would also not make sense even maybe if scrambled.
Can somebody explain the difference between the Carcosa ARG and the Sepulchre ARG? Last I remember we never finished Carcosa.
carcosa is totally unfinished and the original story is gone
sepulchre is the new one, made by gwynn, which incorporates some of the story from carcosa
Oh, thanks.
Ladies and gentlemen, we gotteem
Or at the very least, we have a part of it. The zeros also need to be translated somehow
So let me get this straight - A swat game, currently in developement, also has an extremely weird and mysterious ARG around it as well?
ya :)
I took a little time to read through the google doc that was made to document everything so far, and I'm... perplexed, to say the least
Gives me some weird government experimentation vibes or something š¤£
Or at the very least, there's DEFINITELY something cult-ish going on
The more I look into this game, the more I find to it lol
itās based
What if it turns out that the agency we work at are actually the bad guys or something 
It would be so out of nowhere as well. Just imagine - the place we work at is just a cover for some government agency to do some under-the-table stuff, meanwhile we are tasked to stop the people who are actually the good guys in the long run or something. Obviously not the case, as there are very clear signs of human trafficking and abuse in a mission or two.
But imagine the potential.
As far as I'm aware, there will be a campaign for RON. What it will be about, or what out main objective or goal will be? Who knows but Void themselves?! But the possibility is always there. Since there isn't really a REASON why we do the stuff that we do (our general objectives in the game, for instance) except "Stop the bad guy", it really leaves room for interpretation and proper story elements to be at play in the coming months! I genuinely can't wait to see where Void is taking everything, because there really isn't ANY other game company that's doing the whole "Swat game" thing. On top of the fact that the "Swat" game genre is barely touched upon, Void could genuinely do something new for games as a whole.
There are a lot of signs pointing to the Vietnam War. Guin confirmed that it is significant to the groups involved, which makes sense with how militarized they are in the trailers
Current theory is that a bunch of disgruntled vets formed an anti-government group called MLO, which stands for Mariposa Lily Organization
The Lost could be a part of them, they could be some weird ass death cult
Maybe that's what the campaign is about?
Us stopping a whole ass government trained organization from taking over the world or something
Government trained, because like you said, possibly disgruntled vets
The name āvoidā isnt coincidence too imo. Even on port Hoken, the shipping company has Void in its name.
The Lost does give off very SCP-esque, or even OG Max Payne, vibes.
More like "anti-government terror group" thing i think
Could be epic for some missions if we are tasked with raiding and arresting union organizers or political rivals under the guise of crime organizers.
hi
i have a little question
how can i add ai teammates into a multiplayer game?
for ready or not
not currently possible
do you plan to integrate it?
i dont work for void so unlikely
god loaf c'mon dude
we're waiting
Starting a petition to cut the pay on Loaf cat. Mother fucker is sitting here in the early access and still has not developed one thing
Wasn't this channel under modding chat, or am I tripping.. 
false we all know your receiving a check and good benefits
: )
Yeah I noticed it too
What is this channel for
Discussing the games ARG, but it seems the latest one has driven us all mad
Which one, Lead 5?
lead 3 is the one driving us apeshit at the moment
Oh that's right. The file name
I must be a masochist, because here I am looking at this, knowing I'm too stupid to figure anything out for it
There are args in this game??
Check the pins. There's a Google Doc that breaks down both the ARGs that have happened
^
I've broken my head on this one.
I got WILL YP last Friday (the 20th)
Then I spent Saturday decoding the other one with @ornate eagle and @gritty pilot .
But this 167 code... I just can't fucking get it.
What if it's all a ruse to delay the update
Eh I doubt that. But imagine If we had to solve this shit to get an update. I'd be a bit sad
Show us this fish
lmao no, only a few nerds pay attention to the arg and development isn't blocked by it
Easier to see if I upload it I guess
This being the order of fish containing carp, minnows, and loaches
HA!

Why not
new updata??


I think I mightve possibly maybe figured out what 1138 is supposed to reference if anybody still cares about that number
Thx 1138 is george lucases first feature film
It features a 20 minute segment of prisoners exploring an endless white void in search of salvation
Which to me at least sounds similar to what MLO is offering in their recruitment dialogue.
And what was it again? 1138 was offered to judge in a letter of some sort? And so far we know that MLO is mostly only comprised of former police and military, anyway, my theory is that's MLO attempting to recruit judge?
Probably just me speculating or just really late to the party, but never hurts to have another take, right?
š³
its a pretty shit house film as well
totalitarian system putting people on meds to keep them in line, THX 1138 and plenty of others goes off the meds and after his stint in the void he escapes the city and reaches surface level finally being free
How do I remove this shit
In your display settings
Right click on your homescreen>display settings>disable that shit
This is really interesting where can I find this dialogue?
Check the ARG doc in the pins, and scroll all the way down to Lead 2
Should also check out the rest of the doc, of course, but specifically that it is in Lead 2
Hrnnnng
nobody find anything yet?
has anyone figure out anything about the talking statue?
you believe its about the bible?
fair
we are also trying to find if there is anything related with statue maybe we are being full of ourselves but maybe the venus del milo is related something with genesis?we believe thats the keyword
the word genesis is like everywhere
when you stand here the phone stops ringing
hey what map is that
new hotel map
ohh thanks
Is it just me or.. The payphone had weird symbols on the buttons?
yep you are right
we havent found anything for the symbols but for the nukmber we believe its relate to somg called jesus he knows me by genesis
Yeah, just looked at the article.
there is music video with the number
I'll do my analysis. š
so you've seen about genesis 3:25?
No, educate me.
so in the video there is a group of people holding a sign saying well genesis 3:25 which apparently is not about the bible but as reference on the band which it started with 3 people
for 25 years it was always 3 people
And where does that get us?
we aint sure
Can't be an American extremist group without the bible
Also, this song is pretty good.
yeah suprisingly
The lore behind this song is surprisingly complex.
as for the bible we only found this
Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.
I know we had a painting of a naked women on the new twisted nerve? But I think that's more greek mythology.
I can't really figure out the meaning of this song, going to go search it up.
i was about to say that birth of venus by botecelli
well we are 3 people trying to figure it out
well there is the word genesis as well and we thought that maybe the position where tha phone stops ringing is the clue
Maybe, so it stops when you're around the statue?
yes right at the receptionist door
And it is the Genesis phone ringing right? And not one of the other random ones?
yes
I don't recall.
only the two ones on the red room
Anyway, the meaning of the song is apparently the band making fun of televangilism.
question has anyone investigated 15-55 genesis?
just 15-55 genesis?
yeah like if that has any connection in anyway
I'm going to run lobby, will update you on my finds, also to get the phone to stop ringing, do all players have to be in that spot?
no
Just one? Or the host?
is that the inside of a portapotty?
Yeah, elaborate on where you found that.
yes
nice
Eyes are all crossed?
See no evil or they saw smth they shouldnt have is what i think immediately
quick update it has to be everyone
All the telephones say genesis btw
Thanks.
when does the phone start* ringing?
everytime you enter the statue room
aight ty
as for genesis 15 we could only find 3:15. And I will put enmity
between you and the woman,
and between your offspring[a] and hers;
he will crush[b] your head,
and you will strike his heel.
Man, I'm stuck.
interesting
You guys said the buttons on the payphone were weird?
Yeah.
The actual number dial buttons, or the buttons to the side? (game is still updating)
buttons to the side
Damn. Okay
quite a lovely hat they've added
I tried seeing if the phone number was a code - probably over obvious but gave it a shot anyway. Comes to gibberish:
1-555-GEN-ESIS
1-555-436-3747
A1Z26: (A E or O) E E D C F C G D G
GWYNN: (P X or R) X X I T M T B I B
Also, that phone number kinda maybe seems worth a shot?
Feels like it's gotta be something
Okay, it's not a working number. For reference š
Ah, at least thats off my mind.
Regarding genesis, There is this shop next door to the hotel, maybe just a coincidence though.
Interesting find.
definitely not a coincidence
My thoughts exactly.
Anyway, Genesis 3:25 looks like a dead end, I'm not sure we're supposed to be looking at the bible.
Genesis 1:5 speaks of God calling light "day" and darkness "night" and there was evening and morning, the first day. I'll attribute this to the number "1".
Genesis 5:5 states that Adam lived 930 years and then died. We can make this into "930".
So we have 1930 in some form. In A1Z26 we have AIC(undefined). Maybe we can take the zero to make 30 which could loop around to "D" to make "ACID". Was acid present in the arg plot at any time? I can't remember if it was acid, fire, or both.
All a big stretch but we should look at "1930"
thats a teenager room ig
Yes
what map is this on sorry
new hotel map when you spawn go left
ty
It is
That's Alexander Suvorov
What is this chat for?
Games alternate reality game (ARG), view pins
oh ok
The
fyi one of the devs basically said to not call any phone numbers that may show up in the game
Oh shit.
@ivory wren @gritty pilot This happened in Squid Game
it's nbd but i figure it means calling phone numbers won't ever be required for the arg
The filmmakers used the actual number and one dude who used the number for over 10 years for business suffered
oh TIL the 555 code is actually reserved for fictional use! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fictitious_telephone_number
so props to the devs for avoiding that pitfall
Hey can someone explains what this channel is about ?
idk where to put this
pls ROA would be so sick with this, this would bring things to life!
I didn't think so, but figured I'd just call it and hang up whatever it was š that's good to know though
Yo new here but
i just noticed some of the drawing and shit my pants; alt + F4 all the way
but does anybody have footage of this?
sadge 
i spend 1 round tried to confirming this 
yes so sad
Can you guys please tell me more about the talking statue? im trying to show it to a friend
Any progress on uh, "1-555-GEN-ESIS?"
wut
What if 1930 is A I C 0. AI Co. AI Company.
0 as an O has been used in previous codes. Gwynn Table still doesn't give anything useful even if you substitute 1930 for the 1-555
Im curious about that talking statue thing whats that exactly?
I'm assuming the statue on hotel starts singing if you stand next to it
yo guys
i've found this QR code laying on a desk in Port, but can't quite decode it. Did anyone notice that before?
most of us tried scanning it but failed
Probably not a real code
Doubtful, it's realistically a random asset, especially if it's still not possible to scan it
perhaps, but for me at least it doesn't say "impossible" it just says it's distorted.
yeah you are right
even if pixelised and distorted, it wont scan.
Considering it all, if it did work, it'd likely lead back to the store page they bought the asset from
it would scan.
I think it might be just binary gibberish if anything.
Possibly, who knows, the wrinkle at the end doesn't feel like the original asset or so
I just read that the MLO is trying to recruit judge- Is that like, Actually fr?
Story wise of course
Judge is too much of a giga chad for that bs
Well yeah of course but damn, I just can't believe the virgin MLO would try to covert Judge into their cult of larpers or something
i think this has been said but on the desk against the wall where you spawn in the lobby theres a picture of a skull with a certain area highlited in the brain
Im no doctor or what ever, But im pretty sure each area of the brain deals with its own specific thing so perhaps what ever that area is sort of relates to this whole thing? idk
what does MLO mean again?
yeah i thought mabey its ike a dream state
Mariposa Lily Organization
massile licking orhinization lol
ok
Yeah that could seem likely, Provide an image and maybe someone will be able to pinpoint what it functions as
i rember in this channel there was something about tramatic memories

According to the Hotel intro audio, don't most of the team admire the Rebel's Rejects, which the audio also implies their veterans and former police? Doesn't seem too much of a stretch for Judge to at least think about MLO, which is the same situation... but likely radical
I thought the MLO consisted of ex cops and veterans and the Rebels Rejects was like some knock off biker club lol
Tbh this whole ass thing could be turned into a movie or sum
Don't know for sure, I think we're still putting it together. But they're realistically ex law enforcement yeah
I mean with the way the MLO is geared im sure it'd be safe to assume that they aren't just some cult running around armed to the teeth
Yupp, I think someone mentioned farm is supposed to be about them
Yeahhhh thats what i suspected when i played the map and stuff
You think the MLO are the type of people to get into brainwashing? Certainly would seem like the sort of thing a military cult of sorts would get into, Especially if they desire taking in Judge
Has anyone thought about standing next to the statue in certain places?
Someone said the phone stops ringing when you get near it
I dont know if it was someone else but i also did
Pfft my team can't even clear that area to check it, at the moment
The briefing audio for Hotel makes it sound like the guys on the team admire the Rebel's Rejects, so I'm inferring that it's a biker gang of ex-military and ex-police. The MLO is also like that... but culty
You can see the rebel rejects for a brief time in the gameplay reveal trailer
Pretty sure its a biker gang
It is. It expressly states that in the audio
I wonder what they do that attracts even officers in Los Seunos to admire them
Well, the lore says that the US has essentially gone to shit. So I can't imagine it being all that much
I think I remember it from the trailers. Don't remember which
Ah
The whole setting of the game is that way
@pallid tree Rebels are very neo-nazi. Donāt think our team would admire them (especially King)
I'm just telling you what's in the audio file /shrug
MLO is more open as long as potential members share their beliefs about saving America from corruption
Hold on. Iāll get a screenshot soon
Also, Luke Webley (TOC's VA) was (and probably still is) planned to voice Ramone. He once showed off a preview some time ago where Ramone rants about the nonwhites and feebly tries to make the swat team switch side to "hunt these fuckers down."
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The MLO is more tolerant in a way as long as the recruit conforms to their values of a better America.
Somewhat like many real militia groups
Merica
(Taken from a VICE story on a Three Percenters cell)
Anyway, given the gameplay trailer's narrator referring to the MLO as "a rogue movement" rather than "a terrorist organization" likely means that they are out to enact vigilante justice due to the failure of the court systems
So, they're probably fighting the US government, the Neo-Nazis, the Russian mobsters, and the Club terrorists
has anyone else just stood still at the beginning of the hotel (barricaded suspects mode)
there's like this super deep and distorted voice that says things I can't make out. It's heckin creepy though
They're trying to get you to save 15% or more on car insurance
I'm super curious as to what it says fr
Can you record it and post it here?
it stopped after a few minutes, trying to get it to happen again
I literally can't get it to do it again, maybe I was just hearing things or something idek
The statue that says "Hey" is real, though
if you heard that
I have actually, that one spooked me good
are the servers down?
I'm sorry servers for what?
The game is peer 2 peer
Possibly the guy you hear on coms or the guy who debrief you in the van?
it says unable to connect to backend servers
Try restarting Steam, your device, and if anything disable your anti-virus to see if that's the issue
I was playing fine lile 5 minutes ago
no definitely not him, this was a totally different voice. It honestly kinda reminded me of the creepy voice thing from the end of PT
does someone have a summary of what all is in this chat? i get the premise but I wanna get caught up
Can you record it?
@gaunt tartan Check the pins
I was trying to record it, but it stopped after about 3 minutes where it said like two to nine words every like 20-30 seconds
Ill investigate that tomorrow
once I figured out it really was coming from the game that's when I tried to record it but then it just stopped and I couldn't get it to happen again. Just the normal ambient thumping
It could be a product of the situation if to was thumping
thats very true too, thats why I said maybe I was hearing things?
could be big if it actually was something or I could've just heard stuff wrong I'm really not sure at this point š
So it wad just afk in varricaed suspects?
Or you can try it again
100% could be some chat of the one of the two gangs held up in there
Yeah I just afked for like 5ish? minutes and alt tabbed while messaging a friend of mine on discord then suddenly started hearing the voice
yeah definitely could've been, I know it sounded heckin spooky but that could've just been how the sound travelled or something
I wonder where you start, maybe the big room you break into on the 2nd floor or roaming guys on the 2nd floor
at the very very beginning, like I started the game then alt-tabbed. That's where I heard whatever it was
