🪹the-sepulchre-arg

[dry gale]

ok, can we take a moment to address that on every screenshot like this, without fail, the windows isn't updated

[left bough]

"immidate"?

love seeing kaminsky's handiwork at play

[pastel vale]

LMAO

[snow perch]

JESUS STILL?

[supple pulsar]

dude HOW DO I USE GOOGLE DOCS.

😭

[snow perch]

ITS BEEN 5 MONTHS?

[supple pulsar]

IT DOESNT LET ME PUT A TITLE HOW I WANT IT

[left bough]

which image is this?

12?

14?

[pastel vale]

anything about the image in the background?

[sacred dawn]

People at Void not spelling things incorrectly challenge (they're failing)

[pastel vale]

the one behind the security

[left bough]

i don't like the pug face

[supple pulsar]

13

[dry gale]

it seems to be a screenshot of the helicopter loading screen?

[pastel vale]

could be

[sacred dawn]

Yeah looked like heli

[supple pulsar]

welp

that was a fast solve

[sacred dawn]

Tf does the pug mask mean

[supple pulsar]

alright

[pastel vale]

anything on the symbol?

[quartz sable]

Does anyone know where that is from?

[supple pulsar]

i need to go agaain

see you :3

[quartz sable]

Or this symbol?

[shrewd yarrow]

Message break down:
"The chapter of the tower comes to a close" the tutorial is ending
"Relegated to the legends told among the petals" we basicly can explain the tutorial process and keep that doc as a guide
"However a new chapter dawns in the new year,new oppentes and allies"
The next part of the arg will start next year with new content to the game.
"Starting with a new market then onto pax orientalem and beyond" with the new upcoming new way of content distrabution beyond 2025??

[pastel vale]

pug mask?

[quartz sable]

“Pax orientalem” Pax west/east maybe?

[shrewd yarrow]

Or both!

[snow perch]

Interesting, so we wait now. For a while.

[pastel vale]

could be the security company's logo, the one being raided- or its just nothing too important

[left bough]

"onto eastern peace and beyond"?

[pastel vale]

sounds like the hand is speaking

LMAO

[left bough]

lilies is part of a security company?

[shrewd yarrow]

Blackmarket stuff? Maybe

[pastel vale]

more of the security company thats responding to the MLO raid on a facility

MLO probably isnt apart of this mess but after the loss of their serum, could be

[snow perch]

the chapter of the tower, "the high tower," comes to a close

[dawn saddle]

darn i just hopped on and yall are done

[snow perch]

so maybe this entire thing with dorms, 4L1, camiella, etc, is done?

[pastel vale]

next dlc will tell us, dw

[shrewd yarrow]

Well... i can honestly say this... @rigid sphinx thank you for your hard work in putting this together! Merry Christmas and happy new year! 🙂

[dawn saddle]

Merry Christmas boys

[quartz sable]

now we just uhh….wait.

[snow perch]

exactly 😭

[shrewd yarrow]

Holiday standdown

[left bough]

holiday ceasefire?

[shrewd yarrow]

Unless Kaminsky sneaks something in

[quartz sable]

You will be awoken when you are needed

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-2-g-man-smirk-smile-smug-gif-7973971944599751538

Wow embed fail

[left bough]

ah, lostcon 5

[quartz sable]

how embarrassing

[left bough]

lmao

[shrewd yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-me-when-you-need-me-halo-gif-10152920

[dry gale]

ok guys crazy theory time

[left bough]

oh no

[dry gale]

what if the caps lock in the messages indicates that they're written by the same person who wrote this

[snow perch]

Well, now we can take time to actually summarize the entire thing

[dry gale]

(snipped from the doc, because google goes out of its way to forbid you from copying images from documents)

[snow perch]

real

[quartz sable]

Well Merry Christmas Everyone

Hope you are ready for the new year

[dry gale]

merry christmas

[quartz sable]

…or not

[left bough]

merri krismas

[quartz sable]

I can’t tell where we are in the lifespan of this game

[shrewd yarrow]

merry christmas all

[quartz sable]

are we approaching the end or just about to hit like a new era/season?

[shrewd yarrow]

This is the end.

[snow perch]

in the end

it doesnt even matter

[shrewd yarrow]

This is the end of the tutorial

[dry gale]

found the original for those who don't have a magnifying glass on hand

[quartz sable]

Where is this from?

[shrewd yarrow]

That looks oddly familiar

[dry gale]

an old image from lily

[shrewd yarrow]

Yep

[snow perch]

from the one that references dorms right

[shrewd yarrow]

Yep

[snow perch]

alr

[dry gale]

fits the typing style of this too

[shrewd yarrow]

Mmhm

[quartz sable]

Only thing is the new messages seem automated

[snow perch]

I'm pretty sure we assumed that both were from command right?

when we first were speculating about this

[shrewd yarrow]

Yeah

That or unit command

[quartz sable]

What was the file name for this clue we just had?

[shrewd yarrow]

.

Thats the image name

[quartz sable]

My first thought from that is like subway/train station?

[snow perch]

four nothing?

[shrewd yarrow]

Oil rig maybe?

[snow perch]

4-0?

[quartz sable]

Was there anything on the oil rig that tied to USIA/MLO?

[snow perch]

not sure how that goes together

[shrewd yarrow]

Not that irc

It could be a train station or subway

[dry gale]

yeah you're probably right

[quartz sable]

Platform Station 4-0

[dry gale]

the "perimeter alarm silenced" convinced me

[quartz sable]

Train station seems like a fairly plausible idea for a map but why though

[shrewd yarrow]

Good question

[quartz sable]

Hmm

Okay theory time

[shrewd yarrow]

Wait... train station... is the next about public transportation? Trains,planes etc?

[quartz sable]

MLO attack on a Train station using their chemical weapon they have been engineering for some time?

[shrewd yarrow]

Maybe?

[quartz sable]

Idk why else the MLO would be at a train staion

unless we are completly off with it being a train station

[shrewd yarrow]

Transporting things in and out

[quartz sable]

Los suenos is based of San Diego right?

[shrewd yarrow]

I believe so yes

[quartz sable]

Hmm

[shrewd yarrow]

Since its the cloest to the border

[quartz sable]

San diego has almost 0 underground train systems

[shrewd yarrow]

Train station

[quartz sable]

^ Refrence so i dont need to scroll

Also what the hell is that pug pic in the backround?

[shrewd yarrow]

Just ignore it

[quartz sable]

Lmao

[shrewd yarrow]

It was probably Kaminsky looking at something

Only trainstation i can think of thats in game is the now the station

At least it was an old one

Unless they made a new one

[quartz sable]

Honestly no idea

This could not even be anything train related and we could be on an goosechase

[shrewd yarrow]

Thats highly possible

It could refer to a base

[quartz sable]

The red log messages refer to lower levels which confuse me

Again unless this all takes place underground

[shrewd yarrow]

A labatory?

No idea tbh

[quartz sable]

Yeah and i dont think we will get any clues lol

[shrewd yarrow]

Doubt it

[quartz sable]

This is just random theorizing untill we get some hint

which sounds like will be next year

[shrewd yarrow]

Yep

[quartz sable]

Oh well should we start working on the doc

[shrewd yarrow]

Its holiday standdown/break for Kaminsky (Kaminsky of your reading this, enjoy and relax on your break!)

[quartz sable]

Chill time

[sacred dawn]

What if the station is gonna get bombed

[shrewd yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/what-nani-marmot-squirrel-turn-around-gif-2041453844604053512

[sacred dawn]

Idk if it was already mentioned since the HQ is an old train station.

[shrewd yarrow]

.

[sacred dawn]

Ahh

[shrewd yarrow]

Got it covered

🙂

[sacred dawn]

Wasn't their talk of a new HQ being worked on after 1.0? Or was that home invasion

[shrewd yarrow]

That idk

[nova niche]

The LSPD headquarters is placed in an old train station that was renovated.

[nova niche]

I'm pretty sure it's based on Los Angeles.

[quartz sable]

The only thing that dosent add up with an attack on HQ is the mention of “Security Forces” in the automated log

[shrewd yarrow]

Thats why i am thinking its some sort of secret lab or military installation

[quartz sable]

Yeah I dont think it is any building we have seen in the game yet most likely

Probably something related to the new PMC group

I feel like we are missing something on the Leviathan map with the amount of refrences to it from The Lilie Eyes

[wispy badge]

heya friends! i'm super new to the game, like "played my first few maps today"-new

i've heard that there's so cool lore for the game; where should i look/how can i help?

[foggy pond]

hey welcome

personally id say a good jump to catch up on the lore would be watching "shayne, please shut up" on youtube

he has a whole series on the lore and goes into every mission

[left bough]

platform 4 station 0?

[foggy pond]

@wispy badge

[wispy badge]

hell yeag, thanks@foggy pond

[foggy pond]

no problem dude

[wispy badge]

i should also try to. y'know, do all the missions too i suppose

[foggy pond]

yeah, once you complete them all its good to go back and check around the maps for different environmental lore drops

also make sure to read the briefings and check out all the media suspects civs etc

[wispy badge]

DUDE YES

the briefings are so cool haha

[foggy pond]

once you complete the missions you can go into the evidence locker in the station and look at different stuff from each mission btw

[wispy badge]

if this wasn't already a finished game, i'd volunteer for voiceover work hah

[wispy badge]

whaaaaaaa i didn't know that!! that's cool as hell!

[foggy pond]

yeah for sure, make sure to check it out

[nova niche]

Besides Ryan's suggestion of watching "Shayne, Please Shut Up" videos, I suggest you look at the pinned messages and check out the documents we use to track our findings nad progress.

[wispy badge]

appreciated! the concept of pinned messages totally slips my mind sometimes haha

[nova niche]

No problem, and if you need clarifications we're here.

[shrewd yarrow]

^

[verbal sparrow]

The most interest lore I ever seen

[coarse oriole]

Yup

[nova niche]

So an observation I made while listening to voice tapes on the Elysium.

It seems like the Black Sentinel leader, Aiden Hunter, wasn't informed or warned by Gerard Scott about his plan to provoke D-Platoon by killing cops from the way he says it in the voice recording.

So Gerard went ahead and provoked Judge, which sounds to be what Hunter didn't want or like, to expose Judge to his findings.

Scott's not exactly in a right state of mind, but he's sane and thoughtful enough to be involved with the Black Sentinel and seemed to be in cahoots with them for something. So why did he provoke D-Platoon without telling Aiden Hunter?

[hard shard]

Different end goals perhaps?

[restive flame]

Isaac Morgan has some cool videos on his channel too about some of the levels

[uncut portal]

I feel like Gerard is a bit of a wildcard

[spark lion]

thought he could handle them?

theres like 500clips of people breaching the front door

[ebon summit]

Why did he provoke D-Platoon without telling Hunter?

Felt he didn't have time/rushed/sense of urgency?

Doesn't completely trust Hunter?

Was more in it for his story/legacy than maintaining shadow bonds, and subconsciously wanted to be free from it?

[shrewd gorge]

Judge must have been hella pissed at his contact after what he found out in three letter triad

[snow perch]

What if 3LT was just a surprise birthday party for that one scientist guy and we ruined it by crashing it

[restive flame]

Me shooting the canister after the scientist sceeams about how dangerous it is

[shrewd yarrow]

Did anyone add the recent img to the doc?

[supple pulsar]

I tried

But whenever I try to write the title, the fuckin' doc glitches out and selects text I didn't select

Nevermind

I did it on Firefox and it worked perfectly

Fuck google

[mortal cairn]

the doc is in pinned right?

[supple pulsar]

Yep

[shrewd yarrow]

Yes

[supple pulsar]

Done

[shrewd yarrow]

Perfect ty Kos

I so happen to look at the doc and noticed it wasnt there

[pastel vale]

Maybe he was sick of his info not getting out enough, so he wanted to poke the bear to get Judge to understand

[restive flame]

Scott really is not a rational man. He's super unreasonable.
On one hand he sees this conspiracy and the government is some tyrannical force being controlled by something he can't explain. So he's going to mail them some Ricin.

On the other, he wants Judge to see beyond the badge. So badly that he wants Judge to kill him and have a taste of whats to come.

All tied together by an MKULTRA leak, Scott's wife dying...and the USIA

[shrewd yarrow]

@supple pulsar resized the pic

[supple pulsar]

Thank you.

[shrewd yarrow]

Np!

[stiff basin]

what is this channel even about

[shrewd gorge]

Altenate reality Game connected to ready or not

[snow perch]

Its the channel where a bunch of us go insane trying to solve the "deeper lore."

in all seriousness, yeah, its the ARG. Take a look at the doc if ur interested: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mraLxzMsXWFkj8G_x4z4Xzf7BVlXaCjv1x_WnM9UrRI/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.b3i5cm3kc43e

[nova niche]

Ready or Not ARG that's been going on since 1.0, though there was also the early access ARG that has been decanonized.

[wraith notch]

What's a "ARG"

My smoll brain cannot understand

[rigid sphinx]

'Alternate Reality Game'
It's the idea of a game spread across multiple multi-media resources in reality, on the internet, and in the source video game

[wraith notch]

Huh I'm guessing it has to do with RoN lore?

[rigid sphinx]

[wraith notch]

Sickk

[autumn geyser]

Yeah it's nice

Oh btw kaminsky, while you're here, I've been meaning to ask, on Elephant, is the timer for suspects executing civs still bugged like it was post-DLC1, or did VOID fix that issue

From what I saw, after DLC1 dropped, there was basically no delay to the execution, just however long it took for the suspects to get to the civs

[rigid sphinx]

It should be fixed?

[autumn geyser]

Alright nice, thanks

[sacred dawn]

Is the timer meant to be 3 mins on elephant?

Because it's not lol. It feels nothing like it was prior.

But it's usually the last suspect doing it. When I timed it it was sub 2 mins that the last dude executed a civ.

[restive flame]

It's really fun. It's done in a way that it doesn't suck your time and resources. And it fosters alternative ways to think and approach a problem

[autumn geyser]

Think it's 2

[sacred dawn]

Me and a duo split and damn it was def sub 2 mins. But it was always the last dude doing it.

Idk if it has anything to do with last suspect just going berserk or what

[tranquil pecan]

So this is my first time looking at the ARG, I checked the doc and I see a bunch of images. Do these connect to a narrative? If so, do we have a timeline of events?

[rigid sphinx]

The V2 sheet is the rough timeline, the V1 sheet is the ARG crew showing their work

[restive flame]

The v1 rough doc is more or less done chronologically. iirc.
think of it as the cutting room.
The images usually come from the Lilies Eyes.
Other sources tend to be in promotional material for the game, occassionally the game itself

[restive flame]

Also, from one ARG rookie to another. Warm welcome, everyone's p chill here

[dawn saddle]

They Lily my Sepulchre till I MLO

[snow perch]

till I LOST

[restive flame]

All so much more, rid of rot

[supple pulsar]

Waiting for the next clue.

🕴️

[tranquil pecan]

Is the general consensus the this message hints that we should data mine the game for clues?

[open needle]

I certainly hope this never becomes required, but in this particular case it was a reference to one of the docs where all the ARG info was stored

[sharp hare]

i made a fairly scuffed rendition of the chemical structure (1st image) image posted in the doc (2 image), and scanning it through https://idrblab.net/ttd/ttd-search/drug-similarity it 1- didn't pull up anything, and 2- made this; CCCN.C/C=C(C)\C(NOC@HC9CCCC%10(C)/C8=C(C6CNC(c5ccc4[nH]c(c3ccc2NC(c1ccccc1)Nc2c3)nc4c5)CN6)/C7(C)CC(C)CC[C+]7(C)(O)CC8CCC9%
i have no clue if this is of any value, i'm fairly new to the community/ arg thing

also let me know if i messed up anything with my rendition, i can make another

[sharp hare]

more accurate rendition; C/C=C(C)\C%10CC(NOC@HCC9(C)CCC7/C(=C(C6CNC(c5ccc4[nH]c(c3ccc2nc(c1ccccn1)[nH]c2c3)nc4c5)CN6)\CC8(C)CC(C)CC[C+]78(C)O)C9(C)CCC)C(C)CC%10C.CCCN.C=C

[restive flame]

Trust me, no sincere attempt to analyse the clues is without value.
Is this a composite? Does this make more sense if deconstructed into separate parts?
My knowledge on chemistry and physics is too limited to help interpret.
All i got are questions

[left bough]

isn't that the A1L thing?

i think that was used as a password or key for something

oh it's from the image where WoN was hidden in

dunno if it was used for anything tho

[shrewd yarrow]

this was suppose to be a hint, to a previous cipher

[sweet grove]

is there a timeline of this arg

im kind of curious

[eager atlas]

If there is, it's in the pinned doc

[shrewd yarrow]

from the dates that have been used so far 2026-2027

[normal granite]

Sometimes i dream about cheese.

[shrewd yarrow]

Thats... great?

[uncut portal]

Thats true!

[radiant sonnet]

aoe2 best game of all time

[shrewd yarrow]

Wrong channel folks, 👉 #💬general-discussion this way

[flint gazelle]

Anything new since the lilies last msg?

[shrewd yarrow]

Nope, just on standdown til sometime next year

[left bough]

This year?

Oh, did you get a promotion

[shrewd yarrow]

aye i did

[autumn geyser]

mods

send this man to the shadow realm

[amber girder]

Mods, drop a 10,000lb bomb on his house

[sacred dawn]

Mods mail him anthrax

[autumn geyser]

Mods

Disassemble all his furniture

[amber girder]

Mods
Launch a fission bomb at his toilet

[sacred dawn]

Mods sleep with his single mom

[chrome palm]

Mods swat his house

[autumn geyser]

Mods
Invert his spine

[eager atlas]

Please don't egg em on

[autumn geyser]

lmfao nice

I love how they promote their shit on the ready or not server

[eager atlas]

This is not a subreddit

[autumn geyser]

god damn I'm too tired

My brain has entered autopilot mode

[coarse oriole]

Yo, where's the 3LT evidences in the evidence locker?

[hard shard]

Big table at the front of the evidence room now

has oceanic maps on it, the DLC2 evidence boxes will appear there.

[coarse oriole]

I got C rank for 3LT

[coarse oriole]

And I dont see anything

[hard shard]

might need a B?

[shrewd yarrow]

i think B and above is evidance

[coarse oriole]

Oh ok

[snow perch]

I believe it’s C+, A, and S that give you evidence

Might be A+*

[celest edge]

I’m sure it’s been covered but with the distortion with the chosen is there any connection between the distorted faces on the corporate pic in the mindjot server level?

[shrewd yarrow]

i don't think so spificily

[proud meadow]

.

[pastel vale]

Can’t believe our arg chat is.. quiet

Desolate

[shrewd yarrow]

it happenes

currently, were on holiday standdown

[autumn geyser]

That's just how it feels to be waiting for the next thing to drop

[shrewd yarrow]

true

[coarse oriole]

Am I losing my mind bc the MLO logo in the kitchen in 3LT is gone or is it in another location

[restive flame]

I found one in the room with the container, and another one in the secret room

[brisk beacon]

Pluh

[dawn saddle]

Guys

New clue just dropped

What did lily mean by this 🤨

[restive flame]

TOC to Entry Team. Sus. Move in and clear the area.

[foggy pond]

she FISA on my MLO till i USIA

[sharp hare]

“judge took my lunch money” lmao

[coarse oriole]

Ain't no way

Is that even a real clue?

[dawn saddle]

Judge took my lunch money

did

did bro add reactions to his own image

[shrewd yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/pout-kiss-blowing-a-kiss-suspense-christian-bale-gif-16931550113965916217

[coarse oriole]

Yo, is the paper from George Brixley connected to the USIA or the ARG?

[shrewd yarrow]

not really

[coarse oriole]

The paper said something like EYE, STAIRS and something like that

[restive flame]

I was doing Leviathan with my crew last night and we found the keycard. One of them said "Oh I think that has to do with the ARG"
I got instantly quite excited. LETS GOOOO
We search the whole place. Slap it in a terminal.

It's just the UPF plotting
Tfw my bros can't tell the difference between environmental story cues and ARG 💀

[autumn geyser]

Well for now there's NO ingame elements

There may be in the future but not as of now

[shrewd yarrow]

^ pretty much this

[autumn geyser]

Wrong channel

[radiant sonnet]

sorry

[coarse oriole]

Y'all think DLC 3 will be all about the ARG?

But what setting will be in DLC 3?

[autumn geyser]

DLC 2 is literally ARG

Like everything is connected to the ARG

[coarse oriole]

I mean more

Like will we see the MLO again?

[restive flame]

The logical step to me is that it will escalate

Like. 3LT was the icing on the cake

It escalated EVERYTHING

But it's game lore and not necessarily ARG. The ARG points to the game but doesnt draw from it. Atleast for now

[shrewd yarrow]

Pretty much this ^

[jagged sequoia]

Everything indicates we'll see the MLO again
There's 3LT of course but there's also explicit mentions of them in the police headquarters now

[gleaming sparrow]

Is there a summary of the ARG I can watch/read somewhere? I’ve been out of the loop for a long while so I have no idea when it dropped and how far we’ve gotten

[restive flame]

The documents are in the pinned comments. The V2 doc is a condensed presentation. The V1 is the rough one where everyone hashes stuff out

[gleaming sparrow]

ah dang mustve missed that, thanks!

[restive flame]

Enjoy!

[shrewd yarrow]

🤔 alright void what are you planning for Pax East?

[nova niche]

Pax East?

[shrewd yarrow]

1sec

the chapter of the tower comes to a close
relegated to the legends told among the petals
however a new chapter dawns in the new year
with new opponets and possible allies
starting with a new market then onto pax orientalem
and beyond

orientalem means eastern in latin'

[autumn geyser]

Damn I missed that entire thing happening

lmfao

Oh of course

Cause lilies eyes hates europeans

[shrewd yarrow]

this was xmas day

[autumn geyser]

Always sending everything at midnight

[shrewd yarrow]

lmao

i do love how Kaminsky used our role name

[autumn geyser]

Yeah it's nice

But also yeah

PAX east gonna have to watch out

[shrewd yarrow]

mmhm

i relooked at it and realized it ment east

and i put two and two together

and the first part means idk

"starting with a new market"

could it be refrence to the free content stuff they were talking about?

[autumn geyser]

What free content

[shrewd yarrow]

let me see if i can find it

[shrewd yarrow]

@autumn geyser

[autumn geyser]

Ah

[shrewd yarrow]

found it

dev briefing 80

[left bough]

hmmmmm

[shrewd yarrow]

thoughts?

[left bough]

none, not any even not related to this

maybe there'll be something in the announcement for that content

or when that content is released

[shrewd yarrow]

perhaps

[coarse oriole]

I assume the next newsletter is at the end of the month?

[left bough]

could even be start of next month

looking at previous dev briefs' dates

[potent furnace]

Its a stretch but new market could mean console port

[left bough]

"then onto pax orientalem"
"then onto peace in the east"

could be "peaceful east"

[shrewd yarrow]

i think the next brief is the 21st

oh! i forgot pax ment peace in latin

[coarse oriole]

Void went from 1 newsletter and wait for 2 weeks to waiting a month for a newsletter

[shrewd yarrow]

Oh thats right, rather then talk about nothing at its one dev brief then community then dev brief so probably start of febuary is next dev brief

Actually relooking at #announcements the dev brief is the 21st cause the last dev brief was 81 and that was the 20th of last month

[rigid sphinx]

More or less since the amount of interesting stuff dried up as we left EA, we swapped to two community letters and two dev letters a month to one every other two weeks.

[echo salmon]

“EA” had me confused I thought you meant the company lol

[shrewd yarrow]

Lmao

[echo salmon]

Hope it has to do with consoles and crossplay

Is this channel also just for general lore?

[nova niche]

It's for the ARG.

[shrewd yarrow]

^

[amber holly]

meow

[radiant sonnet]

Hello has there been any developments in the ARG since about a year ago? That's the last time I heard about it and after looking online what seems to be the most up to date recollection of events seems to be this video by SixtyAteWhiskey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA3etBshjMY

The video essentially says that the carcosa thing is a representation of trauma

[open needle]

It's gone into hibernation until after Pax East, which it will then pick back up again. If you want to see the progress of it in the past year, check out the V2 doc under the pinned tabs

[radiant sonnet]

ty

[gleaming fulcrum]

WAIT THERES AN ARG!?!?

[dawn saddle]

since forever

welcome to hell

[gleaming fulcrum]

i only have 60 hours in the game

i LOVE args

[dawn saddle]

there are some videos on YT on the last version of the ARG

like sixtyatewhisky's one

but that one has been discontinued (sorta)

the one we are currently working on focuses on something else, you can find the document of what we know so far in the pinned section of the channel

feel free to ask the regulars here questions, but we are currently on break for a bit

[shrewd yarrow]

Basicly end of the tutorial. Just waiting for the real stuff to begin

I just realized, Lilies has gone missing

Oh wells probably waiting in the shadows to return

[snow perch]

still alive

(unfortunatly)

[ancient cave]

I bought a property in Los Sueños, and what they do for you is, they give you the property

[radiant sonnet]

Damn this is cool as fuck

[magic summit]

hey bro chill tf out yo

[autumn geyser]

Very common discord bug apparently

[shrewd yarrow]

We outlined everything the best we could

[amber holly]

Bleh

[shrewd yarrow]

what's up?

[amber holly]

Nothing im just still thinking abt the lore

Its got me dissing out 😭

[shrewd yarrow]

pats

i know, there's alot stuff that can theroized

[gleaming fulcrum]

well i know what im going to be obsessing over for a while now

imma finish the game and then circle back around to the arg

is there any chance i can get a quick rundown? thisll be the first ARG i can take a crack at directly

actually im a forehead i forgot about the pinned section

[open needle]

@gleaming fulcrum

[gleaming fulcrum]

oh thank you

[shrewd yarrow]

@gleaming fulcrum

Or the more condensed version

[restive flame]

Aaand. More importantly, if there's something you dont get. Ask- I got into this just on the tail end of the Dark Waters update and everyone was super chill, taught me how to look at EXIF Data in images. Which is one of the ways we extract ARG nuggets in this world

[gleaming fulcrum]

Much appreciated! I'm pretty decent at recognizing cyphers and I love digital forensics but all the tools I'm familiar with are on Linux so I might need some pointers to some windows tools 😅

[restive flame]

Oh fuck yeah, then you'll be right at home here. I'll tell you, i'm a DM on the side. The ARG inspired me to include some encryption.
So I slipped in a rail fence cipher.
"Oh yeah that's EZ. I used to caesar cipher and then rail fence cipher stuff to put people through the wringer"

I felt my neck hurt looking at the ones at the top at the sky that day.

[gleaming fulcrum]

See if you can throw in pigpen cipher I think those players might eat that up

It's a symbol substitution one

That's really easy to learn too

[restive flame]

Oh fuck yeah. Thanks a bunch!

[gleaming fulcrum]

uh huh! spice it up too add an extra layer of encryption

[shrewd yarrow]

oooo same here for a different kind of gming

[iron frost]

mmm

[shrewd yarrow]

hm?

[solid gull]

waiting for arg too 🙂

[hoary gazelle]

what does arg even stand for

[lament adder]

alternate reality game

[dawn saddle]

its the sound you make when you stub your toe

[restive flame]

Alternate reality game. A storywriting narrative and immersive thread whereby you discover a story created through digital means

[radiant sonnet]

Caused someone to go somewhere during a raging hurricane when halo did one

[restive flame]

You play detective and squint at minutia through the works of a curator to chase a story thread.
Best example I can give? S.C.P Foundation

[radiant sonnet]

Doritos did one to steal people's data once
Including pictures through their webcam
You went to this whole site that was very weird called hotel something, and it jumpscared you after you gave your data, then took your picture or something iirc

[restive flame]

You know- by extension the monopoly prize game in McDonalds technically counts as an ARG

But you know, the ratio is 2:1 per increment you loosen a filter

[radiant sonnet]

Hotel 626
That's it

[shrewd yarrow]

Thats how i feel when i was doing arg work, felt like a detective and Lilies Eyes was basicly the informant leaving us cryptic messages and clues. (This channel feels like a giant detective agency)

[radiant sonnet]

[restive flame]

Yeah we're all half-mad sleuths chasing the data stream

[shrewd yarrow]

in a 1940s noir style narrator "this.... Lilies eyes dropped us another clue, were trying to piece it together but its not easy were doing our best. I've never seen lilies... they always stick to the shadows when they speak, and leave super quickly"

[restive flame]

"Lookie here, sweetheart. My info- machun comes from a highly regahded source. Now tell me, sweetheart why ya hittin ma agency up so late at night?"

[shrewd yarrow]

Lol

[autumn geyser]

Linch was that you that got that

Oh wait no I'm fucking blind lmfao

I thought the mssage from 2 days ago was actually 2 minutes ago

[left bough]

[grizzled crescent]

hey can someone point me towards the evidence for this? I'm writing up some new developments and I'm (naturally) kinda behind and confused

where did we learn that the MLO was involved with dorms?

And do we think they left some guns there/had anything to do with the vets that are heavily armed?

[left bough]

image 3 and image 4 both are from the dormitory and contain messages that are seemingly internal communication from MLO

slides 6 & 7 in the v2 document

[grizzled crescent]

Thank you!

the slide with image six where there's text about "a raid with lspd" and an "lspd officer in our safehouse"

does that refer to Dorms as well?

[nova niche]

The safehouse refers to some undisclosed place, and the raid refers to when the LSPD and the Camelia subgroup engage in a firefight.

It's likely what brought D-Platoon to the Dorms in the first place.

[grizzled crescent]

Ok gotcha

Was it confirmed or suggested that anyone in dorms was an MLO member that couldn't get out in time? One of the vets maybe?

Or did they just leave gear behind

also camelia subgroup is MLO correct?

[autumn geyser]

Dorms afaik IS the MLO safehouse in that area

Considering we found 619 in the dorms in game

Alongside a few vets with rifles

[grizzled crescent]

Can you give me a quick TLDR on 619

im getting so freaking confused

[autumn geyser]

619 is the officer who responded to the dorms stuff, it's the person we can see in the front entrance in the ambulance

[grizzled crescent]

Ok gotcha. Can we see that on his badge or something? Where else is 619 mentioned in the ARG

was he a test subject or a bad guy

[nova niche]

We did?

[nova niche]

The first and only mention so far was the shootout, and he's a victim.

[autumn geyser]

I mean afaik he's the dude out front in the ambulance stretcher

[grizzled crescent]

What shootout? LIke where specifically was that mention

[autumn geyser]

It's been a while since I've read the briefing though, so idk about his partner

[nova niche]

Image 6, below it there's a conversation log between members of Camelia.

Mentions a gunfight with local PD and having an officer in their safe house.

[grizzled crescent]

Yup saw that, it just didnt say the number 619 in particular thats why im confused

[nova niche]

619 is the badge number of the officer.

[left bough]

619 is the officer who ventured into the area unexpectedly
the gunfight is likely with mentioned officer or might even be with the swat team (the player(s)), or between
4L1 was administered to the officer to keep him quiet
Like Kuro said, image 6 has a convo log relating to this incident
each name is a subspecies/species of Camellia, as mentioned in slide 9

[icy hull]

619?

https://tenor.com/view/smackdown-vs-raw-rey-mysterio-wwe-619-rey-mysterio-619-gif-14369719414550945096

[radiant sonnet]

hey what recent hints are still unsolved

havent rlly looked at this in awhile

[shrewd yarrow]

Tbh i think everything is solved right now. Its currently the end of the tutorial, the real statges are happening soon.

How soon, its hard to say.

[radiant sonnet]

im a little confused at what the story is supposed to be looking at the docs
im gathering that the mlo is apparently still canon despite getting removed from cotv a long time ago and is in atleast somewhat of a conflict with the lspd considering most stuff related is from lspd bodycams and evidence

is that right orr

and obvious weird usia meddling but im lumping that into mlo

[nova niche]

The Mariposa Lily Organisation is still canon, yes.

[radiant sonnet]

its just a little weird because it feels like the arg reset. did it? last i looked we were getting arg drops in steam posts but that doesnt seem to be the case anymore besides ominous images that are the games style anyway. nothing blatantly obvious like a cop with his face twisted

[nova niche]

So far the story is that:

1. A subgroup, like a squad of the MLO, called Camelia secured the CHOSEN (either an individual or a group) right before, during or soon after the hurricane hits Los Sueños that we see in DLC 1

2. The Camelia group brought the CHOSEN to the Greenside Dormitories after one of their members, codenamed "Chrysantha" (all members of Camelia are named after species of the Camellia flower), supposedly secured the dorm for the group to either extract from or temporary hold.

3. However, somehow the LSPD caught wind of something going on in the Dorms and sent patrol officers there, one of them being the officer with badge number 619. Firefights soon ensued between Camelia and the officers, with Officer 619 being captured by them and his partner presumably killed.

4. Camelia then had a quick meeting about the fuck-up, and soon Chrysantha's name was brought up since they were responsible for securing the site. Just as the leader of the group calls for Chry to meet him, the person left.

5. We seen intercepted communication between two unknowns, but the sender is highly suspected to be Chrysantha due to the final line being "Camelia is after me". Either he is working for the USIA or, he acted independently.

6. Before the firefight, Camelia also deployed compound 4L1 (the same compound we would soon see on 3 Letter Triad) at the dormitory, perhaps for use against the CHOSEN or test against the local stragglers there.

[nova niche]

The ARG post-1.0 is different from early access ARG.

[radiant sonnet]

ok that makes sense

[nova niche]

Pre-1.0. ARG is not canon anymore I think.

Though the bare basics like factions and such were reused.

[radiant sonnet]

yeah that would make sense lol. was just confusing because i bought the game when it was like mid early access and remembered seeing the steam posts with the arg shit so i wasnt sure\

[nova niche]

Yep, I was confused too.

I'm just glad the MLO is still the primary antagonist in the ARG.

And they're starting to appear in the game as well.

[radiant sonnet]

So basically the mlo is unchanged besides this storyline exists now

like its still the

same premise

usia meddling in LS

[radiant sonnet]

how so? theres lethal obsession but beyond that im not really sure

[nova niche]

Dormitory for one, the very same place wherr the shootout happened.

Then there's also 3 Letter Triad, the most MLO-tied map by far.

The mysterious canister we captured was supposed to be filled with the 4L1 compound that the MLO used. The doctor that was arrested is also a former member of the MLO.

[radiant sonnet]

i figured

that whole map was very strange especially since the premise is a tip by the usia in the first place

[nova niche]

Also Rust Belt has MLO symbols all over.

[nova niche]

The Detective Bureau also now have 2 investigative boards dedicated to the MLO, you can check them out.

It's cool to see the LSPD also chasing down the MLO now.

[radiant sonnet]

i didnt know that either

before looking back here all i thought was the mlo was scrapped lol. they were never really directly mentioned again and they got removed from the maps

well not fully scrapped obviously because the old arg still but ykwim

[shrewd yarrow]

@radiant sonnet you are correct, this current arg is a reset

[coarse oriole]

Did you also notice the bronze staures from 3LT looked familiar?

[shrewd yarrow]

oh? i am in intrigued

[coarse oriole]

Are you saying Los Locos is part of the MLO?

There's MLO symbols all over the ancient stuff?

This is my theory:

Los Locos was digging a tunnel smuggle guns, drugs and people easily but ended up finding an ancient tunnel

[shrewd yarrow]

also.... to my fellow Lilies.... the next part of the ARG is being developed. (yes i did get permission from Kaminsky to post and share this with you guys worry not.)

[dawn saddle]

Kam and Lead writers driving to work knowing they’re going to come up with the most complex methods of encryption just to drive us insane

(Drive)

[shrewd yarrow]

🤣

[topaz geyser]

Have they done 256 bit AES yet?

[shrewd yarrow]

😮

[jagged sequoia]

Kaminsky - Nightcall

[modern meadow]

found out about this ARG 3 weeks ago, I've been tryna gather as much information as I can out of interest

[shrewd yarrow]

any questions feel free to ask

[modern meadow]

my first question is, what's with that old room in the HQ? the one behind a broken wall in the investigation rooms.

and the Chief's email, he has 2 redacted names, and those people are on watch by the USIA? I know one of them is probably David 'Judge' but who is the second one?

[shrewd yarrow]

first one: haven't a clue, been trying to figure that out.
second question: haven't figured that out. I been trying to figure that out for awhile.

[merry raven]

Lmao

[nova niche]

The current theory is that the old room was once a spot used by the USIA during the height of the Cold War, and since the whole building used to be what looked like a once prominent train station, it'd make sense the USIA would want a hidden-away operation room.

[nova niche]

Which is this? Is this abiut the corruption thing?

[modern meadow]

In Chief’s office, if you look at his email, it says [redacted] and [redacted], both officers a part of your police force, are showing signs of defection, the USIA is putting them on watch

[modern meadow]

so I just S tiered Dorms

are the paintings and the decals significant to the ARG? I recognize one of them, the one with the gator mouth

[shrewd yarrow]

Not particularly.

[modern meadow]

Not even the MLO are related?

I thought they had tons of drawings like that

[shrewd yarrow]

They are, theirs not alot of refrence to them, expect in one level which is three letter triad.

[modern meadow]

I don’t have that DLC, what’s the correlation?

[shrewd yarrow]

Let me see it i can find the pic

There's "secret meeting" of them this was taken with a camera mod.

Sooo from what we gather the MLO setup whats happening within this level.

[modern meadow]

they look a whole lot more different than the combatants

[shrewd yarrow]

Yeah, its just statues with flower heads.

Like i said its a theory most of us have theres nothing concreat to point out thats its actually the MLO doing stuff cause they are a very secretive group.

[left bough]

they might be related to MLO, but not to the ARG

damn it discord, i thought i scrolled through the whole thing

there was an ARG message pointing to the secret room on that level

i think

[shrewd yarrow]

1sec

@left bough that one?

[left bough]

i guess?

[grand abyss]

Who is "their"?

[nova niche]

No clue.

It's likely the Lilies Eyes were talking about the MLO.

[shrewd yarrow]

as kuro said, it's more likely a refrence to the MLO

[grand abyss]

Search for the fetters that bind... So, something is potentially holding the MLO back.

Like a leash.

[shrewd yarrow]

leash, some sort of chains

[grand abyss]

It could potentially be the USIA that's holding the MLO back, but that's just conjecture. We don't know for certain if it's the USIA. But it is plausible given that they are familiar with Judge. Perhaps Judge had a previous affiliation with the MLO, maybe even speaking to some of the members.

Then again, this is just conjecture.

[radiant sonnet]

It's a rope actually

[shrewd yarrow]

its possible

wrong word

[grand abyss]

Don't want to get to anything unless there's something to support it.

[shrewd yarrow]

oh of course, there's alot missing. just certain thing that point in the direction of it

[supple pulsar]

Kaminsky:

https://tenor.com/view/vacation-gif-23399356

(someone with embed perms pls send)

[shrewd yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/vacation-gif-23399356

@supple pulsar

[supple pulsar]

Thank you

What do I need to do to get them embed perms 😭

[shrewd yarrow]

uh.... 🤔 become a mod?

[autumn geyser]

Get good

[shrewd yarrow]

🤣

[radiant sonnet]

The MLO is a plot by the USIA to screw the USIA

[supple pulsar]

Linas is not a mod 😓

[autumn geyser]

No but I'm just better

[lament adder]

Solve the arg duh

[supple pulsar]

I liked it when Lilies said "Its lilin time" and lilied all over the place.

[autumn geyser]

Only some?
I have all the concerns

Every single concern in the world

[supple pulsar]

Why'd you send a blank image?

[left bough]

am i not allowed to?

[supple pulsar]

I need to see your permit.

[lament adder]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-zoom-persuit-gif-17646381782073725526

[left bough]

i tried to look for a permit image, and my god the internet is a horrifying place

[severe cargo]

permit image

[radiant sonnet]

What's he pointing at

[left bough]

there are three

[wind mauve]

i feel we might be uh "taking the bait" per say with looking more in to the mlo map but there might be more hints and info in the other 2 maps that relate to the arg that we might have missed

[shrewd yarrow]

it's possible

[coarse oriole]

Welcome Brothers
Where Heroes Go

These Tattered Soul
On Deaths Row

[nova niche]

?

[nova niche]

What's this.

[coarse oriole]

Its one of Void old ARG post

[nova niche]

Oh.

[coarse oriole]

Also did anyone notice the desc of the Home Invasion DLC Teaser?

Did anyone solved it already?

[nova niche]

Where?

[left bough]

UUUS76 MLLX 2246 NMSMIX
this thing?

[coarse oriole]

Yea

[left bough]

think i saw someone talk about it, but don't remember it going anywhere

[left bough]

huh, didn't think i'd see that again

[coarse oriole]

What are those?

[left bough]

not sure, but the barcodes were the thing

[coarse oriole]

The first post starting the ARG

[wraith roost]

im like 90% sure this is a WMO weather report message

u is for usa 2246 is time mllx is probably weather station rest of it idfk

[left bough]

🤷

[autumn geyser]

Not related

But also are we gonna wait until pax east now

[shrewd yarrow]

last thing i have heard is Kaminsky got out of a meeting with Ropolio and the lead writer @autumn geyser

that was.... the 22nd

[autumn geyser]

Yeah that's as far as I've heard too

[supple pulsar]

When is that

[autumn geyser]

No clue

[supple pulsar]

What is Pax East 😭😭😭

I'm clueless

[shrewd yarrow]

Pax East is in may this year

funny enough the weekend of the my birthday 😎

[autumn geyser]

noted.

[shrewd yarrow]

🤣

[coarse oriole]

Found something

[nova niche]

What's this?

[coarse oriole]

Hidden clip from RoN Dev Log 9/09/2019

[nova niche]

Oh.

The thing at the centre-bottom looks a lot like the statues we found in MLO's hidden room in 3 Letter Triad.

[coarse oriole]

Yea but what are thsoe black things and those blue stuff

[coarse oriole]

Not the stautes but looks like operators

[nova niche]

This could be a representation of what drugged test subjects saw.

[coarse oriole]

MLO people

[coarse oriole]

Yea looks like it

LSD (MKUltra)

[coarse oriole]

Maybe that chemical agent from 3LT was the drug tested on Judge and the rest

[coarse oriole]

Imagine we want to see the hidden room again but instead it will change such the statues will start looking at us when we blow the hole open

[earnest rapids]

You are 5 years too late for this kind of information

[coarse oriole]

I just watch the old dev logs and trailers for fun

[nova niche]

?

[supple pulsar]

So... Anyone watch any good movies lately?

[open needle]

No, but I have been watching the XFiles for the first time trying to get in the mindset for when Pax rolls around

[jade galleon]

Rather than anything else, I was spinning my head. but to me this image (which is on the left) looks like an MLO mask

[jagged sequoia]

It's just the mariposa lily shape in general, the mask is shaped like a mariposa lily

[restive flame]

Yeah. Has me thinking about the MLO graffiti in 3LT too

[graceful sequoia]

wait this game has a arg?

[jade galleon]

Yep

[shrewd yarrow]

Yep

[empty lily]

Nuh uh

[nova niche]

Welcome, check pinned messages if you'rei nterested.

[worn creek]

What mission is the first picture from?

[topaz patio]

dorms iirc

[jade galleon]

Dorms

[pearl gorge]

Hey guys so I’m new here to the discord and I was curious on if there’s a document or something that yall have so I could get caught up on everything we have? If not it’s cool 🙂

[nova niche]

Check pinned messages.

[restive flame]

The V1 doc is the cutting board, very raw but you can sort of see how stuff was worked out.
The V2 is more processed and formatted to be more presentable

[coarse oriole]

Its been out for 3 years

[serene cloud]

Whats sepulchre arg

[mental wolf]

^^

[autumn geyser]

Hey @rigid sphinx (Apologies for the ping) I'm thinking of doing a message that basically acts as a guide for new members but I've got two requests:

• Is it okay if I use a link shortener
• Is it okay if I send two messages
  Both are because I wanna have as much characters left over in case I need to edit the message to add new things to it
  Then when the message is done we could have it as a message link and if anyone ever comes along and wants to learn more we can link said message
  Thoughts?

[distant adder]

What is the whole lore about arg

[topaz patio]

why yall expecting a wikipedia summary

[rigid sphinx]

Full send

[median axle]

bro read all of that

it's like it's his job or something

[autumn geyser]

Thanks

Sepulchre ARG Beginner Guide

Greetings! Welcome to the Sepulchre ARG channel.
There are two primary purposes of the channel:

• It is the place where The Lilies Eyes (Who I will discuss later) sends us the next puzzle to solve
• It acts as a discussion board surrounding the ARG as a whole and the puzzles

Terms and Their Meanings
There's a few terms you may encounter within this channel that you might want to know. To save you the trouble of searching it up, here's a compiled list that will be updated by me editing the message if any new ones exist:

• ARG - Alternate Reality Game. Essentially, a set of puzzles within a community (Could be a game, a movie, a song, anything!) that people can try and solve if they want to find out more lore about something. It has also been used as a means to drop leaks in the past, even within this ARG.
• The Lilies Eyes (Often abbreviated to Lilies) - The intermediary between us and the greater lore. It's actually just Kaminsky's alt (the alt also plays Tarkov), but we receive all our puzzles from this user. Any and all messages sent from them within this community or through other means should be taken as elements of the ARG

Useful Links
https://shorturl.at/COp7k - The public version of our document. This is where you get clear and concise information on all the elements of the ARG thus far. I fully recommend having a look at this first and then deciding if you want to partake in the ARG as it gets quite complicated in the v2 document.
https://shorturl.at/qKnbu - The working document. This is where we share notes, clues, hints, and so on, and it is intended to be used while solving any other puzzles shared by Lilies.

Will edit and expand it if need be

[rigid sphinx]

I should note that I purged all the posts on Tarkov

[autumn geyser]

Nothing on the internet is ever truly gone

It shall live on in memory

[dry gale]

I have one saved on my pc

[dawn saddle]

"Nikita when wipe?"

[autumn geyser]

lmfao that's my favourite one

Kaminsky you should incorporate that one into some hint at some point just as a little easter egg for the arg group

[snow perch]

Yes, please make that a key to a cipher

[rigid sphinx]

Oh my god

[floral roost]

whats the mission order?

[thorn plaza]

Why do i hear shepherd of fire playing faintly and massive footsteps getting closer..

[coarse oriole]

Lmao

[weak knot]

I just read Kaminsky's bio. And I already love them. If they're a Grouse fan, chances are they are also a Russian Badger fan. Sorry for the off topic. Just had to throw that out there.

[boreal kite]

though the seekers wither
they do not weaken
their thirst great
as the well gives upon them
their next great challenge

[lament adder]

[topaz geyser]

The upside down bear, the eagle, and the headless Pegasus walk into the bar

[lament adder]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-palpatine-the-time-has-come-emperor-palpatine-darth-sidious-gif-19488591

<@&1317282630982701216>

[wind mauve]

[quartz sable]

I awaken…

[wraith notch]

orders?

[wind mauve]

ITS GO TIME

[jovial raven]

We're so back

[celest tree]

did california exist in 1781-

[radiant sonnet]

Fruits are different what's the one on the right? I assume the left are olives

[wind mauve]

yes its the same year founded

[sacred dawn]

grapes

[celest tree]

ahhh i see ok

[wind mauve]

ifrc thats the 13 states flag no?

[supple pulsar]

OH

OH

OH

[radiant sonnet]

Top right doesn't look like a bear to me tbh

[snow perch]

Holy

[sacred dawn]

It's a dog

[restive flame]

Immediately thought Carriers of the vine.

[supple pulsar]

No metadata

[wind mauve]

also unrelated does that mean that spanish rule in the area was only from leon lol

[restive flame]

Fruit on the left i can't identify. Also the only thing not beheaded is the eagle...USIA?

[radiant sonnet]

Seems to me the dog and pegasus probably can be put together somehow, at least that's the vibe the red rectangles give me

[radiant sonnet]

The dog isn't beheaded either

[wind mauve]

it looks like an olive on the left

[radiant sonnet]

What are the fruits on the right tho?

[wraith notch]

Someone ping me when they figure it out💀

[radiant sonnet]

Why do they have those red spots

[topaz geyser]

I suggest someone compares this to the one in game in the police station before you all go off the deep end

[wind mauve]

oranges?

[snow perch]

This “bear” looks so uncanny

[restive flame]

Im p sure thats a headless bear

[open needle]

There is also a small hole in the seal on the right side

[snow perch]

Time to mess around with the exposure/brightness

There’s also a notable white outline

[radiant sonnet]

Isn't it a bit weird that the whole shield is made of brown circles and then again surrounded by smaller black circles and bigger ones at intervals of ten small circles?

[wraith notch]

They look just about the same

[left bough]

seems like the same seal as the station

[radiant sonnet]

F en el chat

[snow perch]

image is literally just called SEAL.png

[radiant sonnet]

Grey ring seems to be a texture

[open needle]

I couldn’t get any meta data out of it either

[radiant sonnet]

There's even a white dot on the right, like at 03:00

[restive flame]

Little difference in the police station seal

[wind mauve]

ok one diffrence ive ntoiced is the game one was green beads around it

[radiant sonnet]

I wonder what the devs are thinking about a guy talking about the texture of the grey circle instead of the other obvious hints like the pegasus XD

[restive flame]

Chroma keying or inversion maybe

[snow perch]

chat

hidden numbers baby

[shrewd yarrow]

Oh hello!

[restive flame]

Didnt zoom in enough huh. Good catch

[left bough]

why are there 2 numbers just dangling?

[radiant sonnet]

ohohohohohohoh

[snow perch]

only things I can see

lemme mess around with it a bit more

[red dock]

🗣️

[left bough]

a bit bigger image

[radiant sonnet]

There's a texture to the outside rings

In general

Looks like static

[snow perch]

I'm assuming that it then

because I don't see anything else

[radiant sonnet]

Doesn't seem to be present inside the shield itself

[left bough]

yeah

[snow perch]

this is already giving me WoN vibes (flashbacks if you will)

[left bough]

got it a bit clearer

ploease no

[snow perch]

could be kaminstitution

I completely forgot how to translate that though

[restive flame]

Latitude and longtitude?

[left bough]

isn't that what WoN was?

[snow perch]

WoN was vig im pretty sure

or beaufort

[left bough]

wasn't it a mix of 2

[snow perch]

lemme check the doc

it was beaufort

with the key 09152027

ima plug this into kaminstitution rq

i may be dumb but I cannot find the table anywhere 😭

[left bough]

42 42
43 44

51 5?
23 34
55 54
32

with ?1 and 52 diagonally on the irght side 3rd and 4th row respectively

could be that the questionmarks are both a 4

[restive flame]

Negative on Lat/Long. Points to some place in Russia. No correlation

[open needle]

3rd row, right side 54, 61?

[snow perch]

Kaminstitiution looks like a dead end; however, I’m willing to gamble that it’s a layered cipher

[left bough]

got this with the 5 row alphabet thing

[snow perch]

Welp

Never mind

[left bough]

"in ely is trth"?

no idea if that means anything

[open needle]

In Elysium is truth

Perhaps?

[left bough]

back to elysium....

or is that the key for another thing

@boreal kite in elysium is truth?

[open needle]

Well we are technically out of the tutorial now, so that does open up the possibility of ingame stuff now Iirc

[left bough]

oh boy

[boreal kite]

in ███████ is ḃ̶̅ŏ̴̏t̸̕͠h̸̍̓

[snow perch]

█ █ █ █ █ █ █

[open needle]

Now there's your layered cipher Freak

[rigid sphinx]

fuck off Zeppy

[snow perch]

well I guess i'll go fuck myself 😭

[left bough]

well that didn't help

but i assume it was right

[torpid spruce]

For what purpose

[left bough]

and if that's the case, the extra numbers are DJ

[lament adder]

Uh

scroll up a bit

[left bough]

assuming the 3rd row is 41

[torpid spruce]

Kk

[left bough]

since 61 would be invalid

so now what

we dive back into elysium?

[open needle]

Maybe

[open needle]

The obvious filler for the redacted letters is "In Elysium is both"

But it's never that simple

[snow perch]

I'm unsure, but DAMN this is a sick ass insignia

[left bough]

even with the numbers?

[snow perch]

ignore them

[left bough]

but they're why i'm here

[snow perch]

manufacturing error

[left bough]

D:

[open needle]

Lol

Time to go count all the lilies in the secret room

[shrewd yarrow]

in redacted is both

[left bough]

in [unknown] is both?

[restive flame]

In elysium is both?

[snow perch]

Judging by those mispellings (and this is a stretch), maybe we have to plug those numbers into a different cipher?

[left bough]

█ █ █ █ █ █ █
e l y s i u m

eh, at least the amount of letters match

[restive flame]

Cipher, possibly with SEAL as the key?

[left bough]

and hey, lilies answered

could be

[snow perch]

@left bough what did you plug in for the '?' here

[left bough]

i just switched the ? as 4

[snow perch]

alr ty

[left bough]

since that's what they seem to be

if what i deciphered is correct at least

[shrewd yarrow]

i think the ? is 4

so 54

[left bough]

the weird ones are the diagonal ones

since in my thing they would replace t and r

[pastel vale]

is there a way we can go through the map on like

a camera mod, try to look at every inch of it?

[left bough]

there was a mod like that

i used it

don't remember the name

probably just look for "free cam"

or something

[shrewd yarrow]

1sec

@pastel vale there ya go

[left bough]

huh?

[shrewd yarrow]

i put it in modding chat. to keep here clear

[pastel vale]

alr, when i get the chance; ill go thro the map and look at every square inch; try to find something relating to elysium

[left bough]

other than the map itself?

[pastel vale]

i meant the map

[shrewd yarrow]

i've tried looking around didn't find much

[shrewd yarrow]

i tried using the camera mod to look for hidden details

[left bough]

only thing i found was the door

[shrewd yarrow]

also Elysium is a word for eternal happiness

[open needle]

Just realized we baited lilies, it’s not Elysium it’s Elysian 🤦‍♂️

I’ve been calling it the wrong thing

[left bough]

eh, in the end it means the same

[supple pulsar]

Have you tried doing to that image of the graveyard?

Where you justt got the black and white and the rgb hidden text?

this

[left bough]

pretty sure that was solved at the time

[supple pulsar]

Yeah it is solved

I mean

[pastel vale]

what is that fuck ass horse creature

[supple pulsar]

Do the same thing you did to that image, but to this one we're working with

[pastel vale]

150915 are the numbers at the bottom

[supple pulsar]

42 42
43 44
51 50 (? looks like a 0 to me)
23 34
55 54
32

[shrewd yarrow]

.

[supple pulsar]

ah

Thank you

[shrewd yarrow]

np!

[supple pulsar]

i i
n s

e t
l r
y t
h

[shrewd yarrow]

the response

[supple pulsar]

In Ely is Truth

In Elysium is Truth I assume, then

[shrewd yarrow]

mmhm

in heaven is both?

cause elysium is etenal paradise in greek mytholgy

[pastel vale]

i wouldnt put it past seeing heaven as the answer but

[shrewd yarrow]

it's possible

i am like... 30% sure that's what it could be

[supple pulsar]

It would make sense.

Remember when we worked with this?

[shrewd yarrow]

mhmm

[pastel vale]

i wish i could see but you got fucking light mode on

mother of god

[supple pulsar]

IS THERE EVEN DARK MODE ON GOOGLE DOCS

😭

[left bough]

the ? is 2 numbers mixed, due to the diagonal numbers overlaying the others

[pastel vale]

I THOUGHT THAT WAS DISVORD

[supple pulsar]

Is there anything else hidden in the image?

[left bough]

on top of, the system i used only has number from 1 to 5

[left bough]

not that we found

[supple pulsar]

When was the last RoN update?

Hm, two months ago?

Looks about right

[left bough]

yeah, i dunno if there's actually anything in-game

you'd think someone had found it already

i just really hope we don't have to start counting the weird statues

[open needle]

Two things come to my mind after a little thinking for the 7 letters: "Schwarz" and "the eyes"

[left bough]

schwarz?

[open needle]

He's the civie on Elysian

[dawn saddle]

Oh crap we back

The squad pulling up to solve the new clue

[snow perch]

That’s wild

[dawn saddle]

At least that’s what I see

[median axle]

alternate reality game more like regular fantasy game

[autumn geyser]

Despite the fact that we're out of the tutorial, I don't think we can sue ingame stuff just yet, I think we need to wait for an update to hit first

[nova niche]

Hello.

[restive flame]

DId Lilies pfp change?

[restive flame]

Also, while it's all very interesting and is a great gateway for ppl to funnel into the ARG.
I do totally agree

[left bough]

that's the same i went with

[pastel jolt]

I don’t think anyone else spotted that LEGENDARY pull

[dawn saddle]

Wait what

[pastel jolt]

Yeah turn it on high contrast mode

[snow perch]

Weird, there more numbers. Ima have to take a second look

[dawn saddle]

The numbers Mason

[left bough]

:| lies

[snow perch]

number 32 conspiracy

[supple pulsar]

Are we meant to look for the truth in Elysium, or are we waiting for more hints.

[quasi minnow]

what is this thing

[empty lily]

A crocodile rawrrr

[hardy yew]

My interpretation of the two "creatures" is that the MLO operatives see themselves as turned into monsters, so it's a literal interpretation of that. Or maybe it's MLO propaganda against the cops saying their service will make them into something unrecognizable.

[tall basin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MZwHQUiXq0&ab_channel=SeedButter

[restive flame]

The lost and or the chosen.
Likely people transformed, warped by all the nasty stuff going on in the city. I think they have traits desirable to idk...the MLO? The Lost?

[left bough]

wait, did we solve the last one? are we just waiting for the next thing?

[supple pulsar]

I think so?

Unless we're looking for something in the Elysian

"in ely is truth", right?

[left bough]

😭 more waiting

[snow perch]

What abt those diagonal numbers?

Did we ever figure out their usage

[open needle]

I thought there might've been another set of numbers more hidden in the diagonal

But I didn't find anything after messing around in photoshop for an hour

[left bough]

DJ

DJ Elysian

i dunno

[restive flame]

I thought there was those other numbers in the flag? And we only got the interpretation of the numbers in column, not the ones that are pitched

[wooden vector]

does anyone can give me a brief overview?

[empty lily]

#🪹the-sepulchre-arg message

maybe

[wooden vector]

thanks

[left bough]

they just turn into D and J, if the same encryption is used

[restive flame]

Idea. What if D stands for David and the J for Judge/Judgement?

[autumn geyser]

We just need a B for david judge beaumont