try
#🪹the-sepulchre-arg
left bough
- key
so even more combinations
:( i though i could make a list into a string
ignore the "End result"
something's wrong, i can feel it
supple pulsar
:(
left bough
90062017970616875
hmmm
well the first 4 letters are definitely "JAAG"
if this even got processed correctly
yeah i think the key is wrong
autumn geyser
09152027 has no real relation to current standing so it may not apply
supple pulsar
wellll
autumn geyser
It might also be num to text to THEN beaufort / vigenere
snow perch
Wait why exactly are we choosing 09152027 to be the key
autumn geyser
^
left bough
used "lost" as key
autumn geyser
That's the a1z'd version isn't it
autumn geyser
Cause I'm proposing we first turn the numbers into letters and then we turn that into beaufort or vigenere
supple pulsar
lost has been the key so far this cypher
left bough
Cause I'm proposing we first turn the numbers into letters and then we turn that...
computer only uses numbers tho
autumn geyser
Keep in mind two numbers can either be representative of two letters or one
left bough
rrrgh, difficult
autumn geyser
Yep
That's why I doubt the brute force approach
It'd leave us with thousands of results to manually scan
We can use automation to quickly test possible theories, but only to a limited extent
We'll still need to think the result out
left bough
should we ask for another hint?
left bough
oh boy
autumn geyser
there we go
@boreal kite The numbers within the cipher, do they hold any particular link to something such as Jassim bin Mohammed Al Thani, and if so, could you point us in the direction of where that link is?
left bough
we do be the lost again
supple pulsar
More lost than the lost 🙏
supple pulsar
Please drop a prayer guys
left bough
I'm in
supple pulsar
We're going deep, and we're going hard.
as we come closer to the end of the first act
zij czijgpm ltvsk nd hg 20201121232025516
qfgf evw wtgyklqww ditcpql hq جاسم بن محمد آل ثاني
ec lap kskcwgkd hzte ikx lzlkfwkf lg sg plunds xhc jahwsfvp
452315 131543153335341555 hoamd hg up ctlpfnxo
db zmh wottaf fg 44343553
the leviathan stirs
20201121232025516
452315 131543153335341555
44343553
left bough
i was in initally testing with the 44343553 , just beacuase that's easy to split into letters
supple pulsar
First of all. Have we had like. A really, really good look at these numbers?
left bough
you won't believe how much i've stared at them
supple pulsar
They're all numbers from 1-6, right? Though the 6 only appears once.
left bough
from 0-6, yes
autumn geyser
Frequency analysis doesn't matter when in a substitution cipher
Only transposition
Cause substitution tends to substitute
The bigger thing is that if the same thing repeats time and time again that implies the word has to be a rather unique string cause the ciphertext can't be repeating that often
left bough
autumn geyser
So if you have
aaaaaa
that means the key can't be
weeeee
otherwise you'd get a terrible plaintext
autumn geyser
Unfortunately it doesn't really help us much cause most words in the english language tend to not really repeat the same character in a row that often
left bough
131543153335341555 has 2 triples
44343553 is the only one that has only single digit numbers that don't go over 26
supple pulsar
What if this isn't anything that we've dealt with before?
supple pulsar
In any way, shape, or form.
left bough
"the convulsion of the puppet master is finally in play with an array to contend with, the souls must steel themselves" could mean what the WoN had
since working with numbers as the available alphabet is a weird thing
but also used beaufort, which has a "converging array"
or "an array of convergence" as lilies put it
supple pulsar
Ugh
It's hard to think about this looking at my phone
I'd need my PC and a notepad to be trying things
left bough
i think they were something like this
snow perch
I will be home in like 6 hours, I can help then
shrewd yarrow
Nice and hard
that's what she said?
supple pulsar
We're going deep, and we're going hard.
@shrewd yarrow
shrewd yarrow
<@99363276843929600>
That's what he said 🤣
snow perch
Outcider is a moderator now⁉️⁉️
shrewd yarrow
oh yeah he is.
rigid sphinx
Casually recruited. 
rigid sphinx
Jokes on you, they don't get access to any ARG info
snow perch
How bribe-able are you??
3 dollars, 24 cents, a button and two strings says that you give us a hint
snow perch
Bro has been kidnapped and forced to moderate, blink twice if you need help 😭😭
snow perch
left bough
the won't let me blink
snow perch
Well congratulations you two. I’m sure that I won’t get banned and I get special treatment…right?
topaz geyser
snow perch
RIGHT??
topaz geyser
New rule incoming: incorrect ARG solutions is an instant ban
snow perch
😭😭
topaz geyser
So think carefully
left bough
New rule incoming: incorrect ARG solutions is an instant ban
hol up, wouldn't that make me already banned?
topaz geyser
topaz geyser
(I am legally required to say this is a joke)
And the green mod team does not get insider info about the arg
left bough
why would you tell them that
snow perch
And the green mod team does not get insider info about the arg
Oy Kaminsky, are we getting in-game clues In the new DLC? I thought I heard someone saying that earlier
rigid sphinx
nes
snow perch
autumn geyser
Congrats linch and outcider
shrewd yarrow
thanks 🙂
open needle
Speaking of the new dlc, check steam
sacred dawn
Nothing new on steam page.
Just the same 3 pictures. It might get updated today or something from newsletter for more info.
left bough
when next clue?
eternal kindle
wait when did you guys get moderators wtf
autumn geyser
Recently
eternal kindle
we'll most likely have to wait for the next image anyway, since the whole "the levithian stirs" stuff always meant the next img is incomming and we'll have to stand by
autumn geyser
I think we can't really wait, I think this is what we need to solve
eternal kindle
we'll see... but we do know that it is solvable right now
autumn geyser
It should be
left bough
but it would be through bruteforcing without the keys
autumn geyser
Not necessarily, it may be a case of guesswork again
eternal kindle
what if those numbers should represent typing with an old school cell phone?
We'd get
gjad?j ?d?jgd?jfjdg?l
autumn geyser
Wdym
eternal kindle
where ? is 1
but it WOULD fit in with the other letters
and then the letters are maybe beau or vig
left bough
too many questionmarks
eternal kindle
because solving such short strings of numbers with a substitution cipher is really really hard
autumn geyser
It is
But we've done it before and ultimately that's how it went
I reckon it's a1z -> vigenere / beaufort
eternal kindle
we'd probably be more likely to solve kryptos k4 than this
autumn geyser
lmfao
But there is hope though honestly
Like we've done it before and we did succeed
eternal kindle
k4 is a longer string at least
shrewd yarrow
Congrats on mod, <@99161035562315776> <@99363276843929600>
thanks 🙂
supple pulsar
But the ARG is where the family's at. Don't forget.
shrewd yarrow
ah no worries i can still work on ARG when needed and mod, makes it even easier when its the same server
brittle forge
Poggggg
shrewd yarrow
o7
cedar venture
shrewd yarrow
Thanks 🙂
left bough
danke
left bough
i'm so close to just starting to make a gui for the thing i made
but then i remember that i don't have the focus to do it
shrewd yarrow
😦
topaz geyser
shrewd yarrow
We do need to work on this at somepoint @left bough
left bough
on what? i also just want to bruteforce the damn numbers
shrewd yarrow
The numbers i mean 🤣
left bough
it's been completely quiet here, except for me programming
shrewd yarrow
Fair
left bough
and tthen we became mods
shrewd yarrow
True lol
left bough
i feel like i've already reached the apex of what i can do here
without further hints atleast
shrewd yarrow
Fair, i feel the same
snow perch
Yeah, also none of us know how alphabet lists tie in
shrewd yarrow
True
snow perch
I feel like we should just wait til the DLC drop
left bough
Yeah, also none of us know how alphabet lists tie in
i think i fifured it out for the WoN, but that didn't do anything for the current ones
snow perch
thats what I've been doing because all my (limited) python knowlodge has went down the drain so I have no idea how to even help 😭
snow perch
i think i fifured it out for the WoN, but that didn't do anything for the curren...
ah alr
shrewd yarrow
I know nothing of coding/arrays
left bough
but knowing me, there's probably typos and whatnot
snow perch
what are you coding in atm?
left bough
I know nothing of coding/arrays
arrays are just a list of things
like the text we write here
left bough
what are you coding in atm?
i ain't coding anything atm
bout to join friends for a game
snow perch
the language i mean
left bough
the language i mean
oh, still python
probably not going to start any new ones any time soon
snow perch
ah alr
shrewd yarrow
oh, still python
probably not going to start any new ones any time soon
pats
left bough
shrewd yarrow
Still not use to the shield 🤣
left bough
🤔
shrewd yarrow
jovial raven
fellas, do we reckon the word "strengthened" means anything to us
pulled from dev blog 80 ^
shrewd yarrow
maybe?
autumn geyser
It's most likely just the branding of their version of some monitor
Way too generic to be anything of importance
autumn geyser
linch i got a new job for you
shrewd yarrow
@autumn geyser what can i do for you?
autumn geyser
You missed it but there was a funny
Dunno how the mod system works for yall but it's probably in modlogs or some
Yet another instance of spamming
autumn geyser
Ye
brittle forge
It being upside down is weird for branding on a device though
Could imply maybe biologically enhanced hostiles?
stray ridge
Mer
left bough
any new ideas?
shrewd yarrow
None that i can think of
At least without asking Lily
I think my last question/message to them was wrong
¯_(ツ)_/¯
autumn geyser
It being upside down is weird for branding on a device though
Not really, no
It's memorable branding
You think strengthened and you probably won't think the company but if every time you use a display, it's theirs, and you also see the word upside down forcing you to think about what the word is, you'll remember way easier
Plus again strengthened is way too general of a word to matter
It'd be the equivalent of saying "It." as a hint from lilies
It's useless because of how general it is
brittle forge
Probably right
left bough
but what if the key is "it"? 🤔
brittle forge
Hehehehe
shrewd yarrow
left bough
save yourself while you still can
dry gale
hey guys, you think this has something to do with the arg? (appears in a single frame of the dark waters teaser)
snow perch
the teaser dropped?
dry gale
yeah 7 minutes ago
dry gale
good catch by the way
thx, caught my attention as I was watching it for the first time, immediately thought to drop it here
autumn geyser
More info December 5
Deciphered
Probably release date drops dec 5th
And my bet is on release date 10th
So that tracks
Nothing in relation to the arg though
snow perch
oh nice, that was quick 😭
shrewd yarrow
And my bet is on release date 10th
Thats where my moneys been
autumn geyser
Well I immediately knew it was hex to text so it was just a matter of typing fast
dry gale
Nothing in relation to the arg though
that's a shame, at least we know sth about the dlc
autumn geyser
Linch could you pull some strings with your newfound mod powers and cough accidentally cough drop the dlc release date
shrewd yarrow
Negative
autumn geyser
Unfortunate
snow perch
Linch come on, is being granted mod powers THAT IMPORTANT?
autumn geyser
here comes the peer pressure
snow perch
I have 5 dollars and 43 cents (in pennies) with your name on it
shrewd yarrow
I dont get bonus info sorry boys
snow perch
(literally, i printed it with your name on it. Its counterfeit).
autumn geyser
mmm that's what someone who DOES get bonus info would say
shrewd yarrow
goes back to work
snow perch
who else may we be able to "convince?"
shrewd yarrow
Oh yeah! Before i forget... @snow perch happy thanksgiving!
left bough
hey guys, you think this has something to do with the arg? (appears in a single ...
hex?
shrewd yarrow
I think so
autumn geyser
More info December 5
.
left bough
ah, skimming through skipped that
supple pulsar
Revisiting the posibility of Linch having been right this whole time.
Perhaps there was just something that needed to be corrected at the end?
This seems like such a coincidence I can't ignore it
The next DLC is called "Dark Waters"
shrewd yarrow
that was just luck, tbh.
supple pulsar
array
shrewd yarrow
something about an array
supple pulsar
there was a lot of
experimentations about arrays in terms of coding
this is what an array is basically
supple pulsar
but so far there hasn't been any progress with it
shrewd yarrow
there has not
supple pulsar
i mean
array can just mean
"an ordered series or arrangement"
basically it could mean
shrewd yarrow
perhaps
the convulsion of the puppet master this part of Lily's message has me the most worried
supple pulsar
"kaminsky is now using a different order for cyphering things"
shrewd yarrow
that could be
shrewd yarrow
🤔
supple pulsar
they looked really far into it
shrewd yarrow
possible
shrewd yarrow
but, do always keep Kaminsky's words "don't overthink things"
supple pulsar
yeah
snow perch
strikes me as "use all the skills youve learned to help solve this."
supple pulsar
strikes me as "use all the skills youve learned to help solve this."
basically, yeah
snow perch
If this really is the end of the tutorial this would make sense
supple pulsar
that is SUCH
what do you think of this? @snow perch
snow perch
Using everything that we've learned to solve this ONE specific thing
snow perch
peculiar timing is my response to that
I think not, but It could be
what I'm wondering though
is why its misspelled
supple pulsar
i mean
if i input the key
"lostlostp" with that p at the end
it says darkwater
snow perch
(game theory?)
supple pulsar
i think the first row of numbers MIGHT be a different cypher
to the ones down below
my reasoning is
it includes the numbers 0 and 6, not included on the other string
and the possibility that, if translated to gwynn, it comes out as "darkwatev",
also it looks like a date, like we discussed, but 100% isn't that
maybe it's just a hunch though
supple pulsar
numbers only range from 0-6
though there is only 1 6
and the 0's are only present in the first string
supple pulsar
i
actually remembered something
i was experimenting
while i was in london
what if it's like
base 7?
snow perch
lets see
snow perch
what the
supple pulsar
only the first string
snow perch
for 2020 it gave me "15256023563032465646" 😭
supple pulsar
oh
snow perch
whoops
supple pulsar
lmao
but
i think it's a little far fetched still
there's a big problem with the theory
that being
it's a hunch
but we can still try
i'm trying to
snow perch
I have a hunch
supple pulsar
go ahead?
snow perch
what if we put the numbers into a cipher and then put the a1z equivelent as a key (a1z Lost)
tired olive
PC crashed
snow perch
so e.g, 12151920 would be the key
supple pulsar
PC crashed
wrong channel.
BSHADHSAD
so you're saying
put numbers through cypher with 12151920 as the key?
it doesn't actually sound half bad
snow perch
yeah
supple pulsar
let's give it a try shall we
snow perch
and the alphabet as 1234567890 (like we did with the WON)
snow perch
quad 0s?
snow perch
did you add a space?
supple pulsar
oh
i did
quad zeros
ill throw something else now
what if
the key has to abide by this 0-6 order?
supple pulsar
i did thee space mistake on vig, still doesnt change much
let me put it in base7 maybe
snow perch
what if we bring out the old trusty trifid-caesar
snow perch
ye wassup
supple pulsar
it's not like the won
because
on WON the numbers were
separated
like
the indiviual letters
but here it's all together
snow perch
oh shit yeah maybe
supple pulsar
im scratching my head though
why do numbers only go 0-6
20201121232025516
452315
131543153335341555
44343553
20201121232025516
that's the amount of each number in that first string
snow perch
reminds me of an array fr
snow perch
ill be back soon, im finishing this tf2 mvm game
autumn geyser
?
left bough
i got that same result when i tried before
left bough
...i tend to not take notes
shrewd yarrow
shrug come up with ideas or possibilites.
obsidian brook
why do numbers only go 0-6
Could be base seven
supple pulsar
Could be base seven
thought of that already
but unfortunately it didn't lead to anything
snow perch
If we buy the ready or not merch do we get a hint?
jovial raven
If we buy the ready or not merch do we get a hint?
only if you get one of everything
shrewd yarrow
xD
snow perch
only if you get one of everything
What if I only buy one thing because I’m broke?
topaz geyser
Unless Kam is referring to something else
supple pulsar
"More info coming December 5th"
real sparrow
I guess that is the demanded hint?
That the array we should work with is in hex (if it is an array anyway)
shrewd yarrow
Did you guys watch the new teaser?
shrewd yarrow
I think you and Outcider are on too something
shrewd yarrow
i think they were something like this
I am honestly starting to thinking its something like this. in which way i'm not sure
snow perch
What if we convert the numbers to hexadecimal and try some stuff with that?
shrewd yarrow
possible
snow perch
So I noticed a couple odd things about the photo
there seems to be something hidden, I've been tinkering but I'm not that good at photoshopping and color correction
shrewd yarrow
oh?
snow perch
weird
when going into the video itself (I needed a high quality version) it isn't present
must be some random fragment from Kapsels screenshot
shrewd yarrow
maybe?
snow perch
I was messing around with gwynn and I got bored of using paper to translate so (with the help of chatgpt and my limited python knowledge), I made a little program to automatically do the substitution for you. Its in python
(one sec I messed something up)
young forge
WAH
left bough
you could also generate the dictionary
although mine has everything as characters and nothing as numbers
probably simpler to just write out the dictionary 😅
autumn geyser
Can confirm, deffo easier to write it out
Just build in a check so that if n is >= 26 you build a check so that it removes 26 until it's <26
left bough
🤔 maybe i could make it work with an input
that way i could have all three dictionaries go through only one generator
autumn geyser
gwynn = {
0: 'A',
1: 'P',
2: 'E',
3: 'T',
4: 'I',
5: 'X',
6: 'M',
7: 'B',
8: 'Q',
9: 'F',
10: 'U',
11: 'J',
12: 'Y',
13: 'N',
14: 'C',
15: 'R',
16: 'G',
17: 'V',
18: 'K',
19: 'Z',
20: 'O',
21: 'D',
22: 'S',
23: 'H',
24: 'W',
25: 'L'
}
Input = int(input("Number:"))
if Input >= 26:
Input = Input % 26
print(gwynn[Input])
Very simple system
Adapted for infinite scalability, you can put 6895407698457694538 for all you care
Which, btw, returns K
Same can be done for all the other ciphers
Just define them in a line and collapse said line, then just
Input = int(input("Number:"))
if Input >= 26:
Input = Input % 26
print(gwynn[Input])```
the restoh i think you could just modulo it without the if
left bough
mine's a bit more convoluted
autumn geyser
Does not get better than this
left bough
oh boy
autumn geyser
technically two lines of code
One for defining everything assuming you collapse it, one for defining input
left bough
but i have a feeling yours only takes one number at a time
autumn geyser
Then you just foreach loop each element in the input if it's a big set and add everything up to one array you print later
left bough
ye
left bough
oh! i just remembered that my dictionaries have the combinations both ways
autumn geyser
I fucked up
"Nice and quick expansion, let's see if I can just make this tool work"
20 minutes later:
In fairness a lot of this is just input sanitization cause I wanna make this be a clean CLI tool but still
Anyways it works
left bough
def GenGwynnDict(strtL,nxtL):
output = {}
num=0
dif=ord(nxtL)-ord(strtL)
let = ord("a")
while num < 26:
while let > 122:
let -= 26
while let < 97:
let +=26
output[str(num)] = chr(let)
num += 1
let += dif
num=0
let = ord("a")
while num < 26:
while let > 122:
let -= 26
while let < 97:
let +=26
output[chr(let)] = str(num)
num += 1
let += dif
return output
print("Input a letter")
A=input("0 = ")
B=input("1 = ")
print(GenGwynnDict(A,B))
wait a minute
autumn geyser
Damn
left bough
this isn't a channel for programming
autumn geyser
I would send mine but I hit char limit
left bough
damn
autumn geyser
Discord moment
autumn geyser
this isn't a channel for programming
It's a channel for everything at this point
left bough
autumn geyser
Am I allowed to send just straight up .py files in here or would that get me sent to the shadow realm
left bough
well me and freakinator already did
so you'd be going with us
autumn geyser
Alright
Going down with the ship time
I'll share it either later today or tmr morning but it'll be a full on CLI-based tool for forwards and reverse Gwynn, A1Z, and A0Z
autumn geyser
Command line interface
autumn geyser
You have GUI, which is stuff like discord, stands for graphical user interface, where there's cool things and whatnot, and then there's CLI, which is literally just stuff you can run in command prompt
GUI is all nice and all but for some reason the vibe of CLI for a tool like this remains dear to me
No way, this is the first time AI has been useful in coding
I didn't consider this to be a good way to encrypt (reverse decrypt) a cipher
The Command Line Interface Number Cipher Tool
Steps to use:
- Download this file
- Download and install Python
- Open the folder the file is located with command prompt / terminal
- Type "python app.py"
- Follow the steps in the command line
snow perch
you could also generate the dictionary
although mine has everything as character...
Ah okay, that’s cool
sacred dawn
Dark waters page got updated 3 days ago. Probably will be info drops just like home invasion. Be ready on the 5th 🫡
DLC drop (aka M14 update) most likely still on the 10th according to Ali's profile thing.
shrewd yarrow
🫡
shrewd yarrow
DLC drop (aka M14 update) most likely still on the 10th according to Ali's profi...
Sounds about right, provided everything goes well in the final QA check and steam's approval
snow perch
T-2 days
tidal sonnet
this is whats present instead
kinda looks like a floor plan/blueprint alternatively just very specific vectoring. what I would consider the 'bathrooms' in the photo do feel remeniscent of hospital (I forget the name but yknow which map I mean) or Elephant
left bough
kinda looks like a floor plan/blueprint alternatively just very specific vectori...
too busy to be a blueprint, if you ask me
autumn geyser
yep
It's definitely compression
Like that's just a shitton of rectangles and squares in a gradient
autumn geyser
embed privileges revoked
inland thicket
anyway i think it's the same cipher from the trailer
autumn geyser
More info December 5
inland thicket
so "more info december 5th" again
autumn geyser
Same thing
inland thicket
yep
autumn geyser
I'm still on for December 10th release date
nova niche
Hm.
autumn geyser
Like 99% sure it's gonna be then
sacred dawn
If you guys wanna get notified when it starts. I don't know when RoNs segment will start but I'm assuming it's gonna be a DLC trailer (with a launch date)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4Y3GMbaV3s
boreal kite
though the seekers are mighty, the meek continue to evade them
4x4 is s
3x5 is o
5x3 is w
autumn geyser
Thank you lilies, very cool
Probably this
So a 2D grid
Not sure how the fuck that makes sense but
Oh but it does
3 letters separate O and S, and 3 letters separate S and W
left bough
ehhh, i might have the axises wrong
left bough
🤔
autumn geyser
3 letters inbetween (3,5) and (4,4)
We can technically continue this onwards to create a full alphabet relation to the -x+8 function
I was gonna go to sleep early but fuck you lilies for posting late so I'll go do this instead
left bough
the math is a higher grade than my understanding of it
autumn geyser
Wdym
left bough
my math ain't mathing
autumn geyser
Ah
left bough
...i should probably eat first
autumn geyser
Yeah that'd make sense
It's really just as simple as there being 4 letters per 1x, each letter is at ¼ increments from the other, so if O is 3, then P is 3.25, and so on
And likewise, because the formula for the function is -x+8 (As derived from where the points are), we get that per each 0.25 step on the X axis in the pos direction, we get a -0.25 on the Y axis
left bough
so it's a vector of 0.25,-0.25?
left bough
what kinda array is this??
autumn geyser
fuck if I know
left bough
autumn geyser
But at least we know what each value represents
I'll just do the logistical stuff and leave the brains up to other people
left bough
but there's no negatives or partial numbers
autumn geyser
Currently working on a full alphabet-related set for values
snow perch
OH SHIT LILY POST?
autumn geyser
A (-0.5, 8.5)
B (-0.25, 8.25)
C (0, 8)
D (0.25, 7.75)
E (0.5, 7.5)
F (0.75, 7.25)
G (1, 7)
H (1.25, 6.75)
I (1.5, 6.5)
J (1.75, 6.25)
K (2, 6)
L (2.25, 5.75)
M (2.5, 5.5)
N (2.75, 5.25)
O (3, 5)
P (3.25, 4.75)
Q (3.5, 4.5)
R (3.75, 4.25)
S (4, 4)
T (4.25, 3.75)
U (4.5, 3.5)
V (4.75, 3.25)
W (5, 3)
X (5.25, 2.75)
Y (5.5, 2.5)
Z (5.75, 2.25)
Should be roughly correct hopefully
left bough
dear lord
autumn geyser
My tired mind is most definitely gonna fuck up somewhere along the line
left bough
how do we connect that to the text?
autumn geyser
Fuck if I know
All I know is that now letters represent numbers
In more ways than we thought
Gonna put that in the doc and head off to bed
left bough
don't tell me it's a trifiwhatever cipher
and each of those are from different arrays
well ok, probably not
shrewd yarrow
What magic and sorcery is this!?
autumn geyser
That sounds like something for you guys to figure out
left bough
i thought it would be closer to this
left bough
eh, i'll still try to stay with the 2d array
rigid sphinx
aren't linear arrays fun?
shrewd yarrow
This is sorcery and magic
left bough
i don't like it
autumn geyser
aren't linear arrays fun?
They look cool
Can't tell if they're fun or not
Probably not
Wait hold up
A linear array
snow perch
I’ll be home in an hour and I’ll help, if yall didn’t solve it by then at least 😭
autumn geyser
It's literally just an array
Element id 0 is something, element id 1 is something else, and so on
No clue why you've got negatives and other stuff in there, unless you want me to do multiplication, for which I would commit unspeakable horrors if that were the case, but linear arrays just seem like arrays
left bough
well i mean... it's an array, it's just linear
autumn geyser
Theoretically if it were multiplication you'd take the X and the Y and multiply them together, and then insert the respective letter at the ID you get
No id .1875 though so not that
left bough
yeah, adding them together just gives 8s
autumn geyser
Everything's at ID 8
We have undefined for the first 8 and then the 9th is when we just pile every letter in
That's how we solve it
left bough
😭
autumn geyser
Lmao
It really is just
[undefined, undefined, undefined, undefined, undefined, undefined, undefined, undefined, a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z]```We've solved it
Alright lilies next clue
We've solved this one
We've done your programming work
rigid sphinx
snow perch
Y’know how the numbers from the original message go only up to 6? Would that change anything by any chance?
left bough
i have no idea what i'm doing, but i might as well finish since i started
left bough
not sure how this is supposed to help, but that's the grid that came form placing those three letters on there with bottom left as origin
well i say that, but it seems i used the "+" as 0,0
left bough
gpt almost had a stroke trying to figure out the equeation for that mess
aaand it doesn't work for anything but those 2 specific ones
so the whole thing is broken
left bough
i have no idea how to work with this
rose hearth
can somebody give me a rundown of the the ARG, i'd like to start helping but i dont know that much.
left bough
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mraLxzMsXWFkj8G_x4z4Xzf7BVlXaCjv1x_WnM9UrRI/edit?usp=sharing
has everything
we're currently solving "Text Message 11"
i'm bad at shortening things
rose hearth
thanks
left bough
oh hey, it's the 5th
snow perch
real
left bough
kaminsky, pls
it's the 5th
where more info?
rigid sphinx
left bough
supple pulsar
though the seekers are mighty, the meek continue to evade them
4x4 is s...
NEW LILIES MESSAGE?
left bough
indeed
snow perch
seems so, thats what kam said
left bough
please tell me either of you have any idea how to work with that
snow perch
is anyone free later to have a look together?
I can
snow perch
please tell me either of you have any idea how to work with that
I cannot 😭
supple pulsar
time to read up on linear arrays
rigid sphinx
seems so, thats what kam said
Oh no, no. I never said it WAS a linear array.
I just said that they're fun
@supple pulsar ☝️
Please don't do linear array research please.
left bough
that's sounding like we gotta dive deeper into linear arrays
rigid sphinx
left bough
snow perch
snow perch
honestly
left bough
i'm going to break a wall
snow perch
winter sucks
snow perch
My point still stands
rose hearth
did anyone solve the Lilies infiltration message in the doc?
snow perch
Yeah, it was a hint for something a while back
rose hearth
aight
left bough
our journey takes us to 20201121232025516
from the disgraced subject of Jassim bin Mohammed Al Thani
to the warriors that use altruism as an excuse for violence
the ceremoney waits to be observed
in the season of snow
AAAAAA
snow perch
huh?
rose hearth
is that hinting at this winter then?
snow perch
did you solve it 😭
left bough
i swear if that is correct
snow perch
wait wait wait what did you do?
left bough
our journey takes us to 20201121232025516
from the disgraced subject of Jassim ...
split the alphabet into rows of 5 each
which chatGPT said might work
i just tried finding a connection between the letters not this
not LIKE this
but we still have the first set of numbers, which doesn't work with this
cuase there isn't an even amount of digits
i don't know if i should ask kaminsky if the text has a typo or lilies if it's correct
snow perch
I can't really give my opinion on that because I barely know what I'm looking at but I'm open to both. Also how exactly does this turn the numbers into "Snow," if you dont mind me asking.
And ur ballin right now keep up the good work
left bough
first number is the row second is the "column"
so 4,4 would be from the 4th row, the 4th letter
left bough
or 3,5 3rd row 5th letter
snow perch
dude good shit 😭
left bough
i didn't mean to find it out like this
@boreal kite the ceremoney waits to be observed
in the season of snow
might as well
left bough
changed into a black&white padoru with a microwave for a head
rose hearth
i ran 20201121232025516 through a code detector and it said it might be an octal code
might be helpful
left bough
it's a possibility
rigid sphinx
**WHAT DOES THIS MEAN????**
!avatar
pale tendonBOT
rigid sphinx
rose hearth
is it a thicc microwave?
left bough
looks like the one from half life
snow perch
or at least from some source game
reminds me of the ones on cs_office
the ARG is actually figuring out what game the microwave is from
this is what its been leading up to
left bough
hmmmm
snow perch
Those damn feds have taken over our supra microwaves
shrewd yarrow
that's the only thing i can think of thats US at least in game wise
left bough
shrewd yarrow
or its just a USA cap
doing research on the USIA we know of 2 comfired i guess for USIA Gerard Scoot
and Elaine Raskin
🤔
made a small note in the doc
left bough
well "unitedstates" and "theunitedstates" deos fit the character amount for it, but that would mean it's a double layer one
shrewd yarrow
🤔 true
left bough
and that's not counting a1z
shrewd yarrow
true
left bough
wait no, that mgiht not be true
shrewd yarrow
oh?
left bough
i dunno
shrewd yarrow
could you imagen if the 12:26 was the release date 🤣
left bough
rigid sphinx
So, I'll be straight with you
shrewd yarrow
oh?
shrewd yarrow
OH!
rigid sphinx
It's from a livestream where Nikia, COO of BSG was holding a Microwave and put a hat on it
shrewd yarrow
i didn't play tarkov much
interesting
i still like my theory better of it being USIA 🤣
:)
left bough
OH! that's why it looked familiar
i think i saw an image or vid where the cap was
but couldn't place it...
supple pulsar
i ran 20201121232025516 through a code detector and it said it might be an octal...
did you run it through boxentriq's?
we don't think it's octal
good shit @left bough
also did
kaminksy just
mispell "ceremony" 😭
left bough
that's what i'm wondering
supple pulsar
also
the whole thing with the linear function and shit is wrong then i suppose
because the hint lilies sent
was directed towards
the thing outcider solved
left bough
well the hint before that was aboiut a colliding array
can't get any collisions in a single line
not colliding, intersecting
supple pulsar
yeah
also
the first number string
20201121232025516
has an odd number of numbers so
it can't be something like what you did, outcider
left bough
ye
snow perch
My guess its probably another layered cipher
supple pulsar
i mean
im still
pretty shook
that by doing gwynn with the numbers split
you get darkwatev
snow perch
maybe we have to plug the numbers in gwynnn and then put it into another cipher
supple pulsar
20 20 11 21 23 20 25 5 16
if you gwynn them like these, and then do vig with key "LOST", you get darkwatev
snow perch
but that is one hell of a "coincidence"
supple pulsar
yeah
the new dlc is dark waters
but
it's short one letter
and the last letter is wrong
so
shrewd yarrow
🤔
snow perch
What if "Dark waters" was the answer for that string
supple pulsar
What if "Dark waters" was the answer for that string
That's what I've been thinking
snow perch
“our journey takes us to dark water(s) (20201121232025516)"
supple pulsar
gwynn - > vig
key lost
is the way to get it
beau has no result
you get "dark waters" if the key is lostlostq
@rigid sphinx is this a big coincidence? 😭
snow perch
or you could just replace 'G' for 'C' and you'd get the same result
supple pulsar
or you could just replace 'G' for 'C' and you'd get the same result
yeah but i don't think you can just
snow perch
yeah im just mentioning that
left bough
our journey takes us to dark water
from the disgraced subject of Jassim bin Mohammed Al Thani
to the warriors that use altruism as an excuse for violence
the ceremoney waits to be observed
in the season of snow
snow perch
Im trying to find any way that we could get an answer of 14 for C
left bough
our journey takes us to dark water
from the disgraced subject of Jassim bin Moha...
@boreal kite is there progress?
boreal kite
the way has been lit
left bough
👀
left bough
i do have to say tho
these typos are painful
snow perch
Dark watev is CRAZY 😭
shrewd yarrow
omg! i was right on darkwater!?
supple pulsar
omg! i was right on darkwater!?
apparently
shrewd yarrow
holy shit!?
left bough
snow perch
ty 🙏
shrewd yarrow
well down everyone!
i do wanna give the biggest credit to @autumn geyser and @left bough for their hard work on the array
snow perch
Fr, thank god we have programmers here. Good shit outcider and Linas
shrewd yarrow
idk where we would be without you guys, thank you!
snow perch
shrewd yarrow
scratch that
snow perch
linch I think he was giving us a hint because we were trying to find the microwave 😭
shrewd yarrow
lol
snow perch
want me to delete it?
shrewd yarrow
yeah just delet that
now for some reason i can't get oojdholxg to translate
keeps giving me zcbwscdqr
shrug
snow perch
what cipher are u putting it in?
inland thicket
our journey takes us to dark water
from the disgraced subject of Jassim bin Moha...
oh damn looks like the ARG actually has a story now
i should get invested into it again then
does this mean we're out of the "tutorial" phase?
shrewd yarrow
possible
snow perch
We have the "Kaminstitution," custom cipher now so maybe
shrewd yarrow
looks at time linas should be awake within the next hour or so
i'm gonna hop in vc if people wanna come chill
shrewd yarrow
kool
autumn geyser
Nice work for solving it, how did yall get the kaminstitution stuff?
And how does it work
shrewd yarrow
that's an outcider question
autumn geyser
Fair
shrewd yarrow
split the alphabet into rows of 5 each
autumn geyser
They have 28 minutes before I riot
shrewd yarrow
c.c
autumn geyser
It'll be the 5th in EST then
autumn geyser
Either way, nice work outcider
Hoping he wakes up within the next 24hrs so I can find out how he did it
shrewd yarrow
i give yourself some credit cause you helped form the array
you two worked together on it
supple pulsar
also did boomkaboom delete his acc?
shrewd yarrow
i have no idea
snow perch
I saw his pfp update so he prolly left
snow perch
i think he did 😭
I was looking earlier this month and it was still his regular user
now I cant find him
left bough
noooo
left bough
for most of the numbers?
autumn geyser
The purple and orange ones
topaz geyser
I saw his pfp update so he prolly left
Account deleted sadly
left bough
asked chatGPT if there was anything connected the three lilies last gave
purple wasn't mine
shrewd yarrow
purple was me
autumn geyser
Ah
shrewd yarrow
i got that long ago
autumn geyser
What'd gpt say
left bough
What'd gpt say
gave this as a possible solution
autumn geyser
And then how does that one work
autumn geyser
Ah
snow perch
So kinda like X=row Y=Letter right?
autumn geyser
Cause it does make sense to some extent
shrewd yarrow
the way has been lit
the way is lit to where?
left bough
to the exit?
left bough
the dark waters of dark water
shrewd yarrow
🤣
snow perch
dark watev
left bough
playin with frend
autumn geyser
cringe
autumn geyser
Oh it is