🪹the-sepulchre-arg

[cloud niche]

It was an almost complete cypher

[left bough]

oh hey, Blaise de Vigenère created the vigenere cipher

[cloud niche]

Just above branch B, same encryption, almost finished

[left bough]

oh A6-2?

[cloud niche]

I know that, I'd assume y'all figured that out by looking into kwarizmi?

[left bough]

dunno about others, but i only now noticed

[cloud niche]

They were affiliated with each other

[left bough]

so who's the macy then?

[shrewd yarrow]

That wall of numbers litterly drove me into insanity

[cloud niche]

But yeah, the A6-2 was already almost finished with the decryption. I don't know why it's unfinished, because I can make out works that were spelled wrong, or just the wrong letters.

[left bough]

A6-2 was thrown through gwynnstitution

i'm not sure if the odd letters can even be deciphered further

[cloud niche]

Could just be the wrong decryption method or something idk

[left bough]

🤷

[supple pulsar]

right

so at least

1

is vigenere

we need to figure out what alkhwarizmi means

[left bough]

that's another person's name

which is linked to just numbers

well alot of things, but in this case i think it's just the numbers

basically i think the line
"HANGING THE GLYPHS OF THE SAXONS AND THE PRISRANS FOR IHE SYMBOLS OF THE ALKHWARIZMI"
just means the arabic numerals

[tawny spoke]

has carcosa and the older sepulchre stuff concluded, or is it all still connected with the new wave of clues?

[shrewd yarrow]

Its conclued.

[supple pulsar]

i have a bit of a question about something

y'know how in the "they thrash" clue there are words that are mispelled, and then there are just complete gibberish letters

are those letters, perhaps, a clue?

well

let me throw something out there

if, somehow, we find what the first step is

we can then just brute force the key (if it's Vigenère for the second step) or part of it by making it spell "in the end", then deduce the rest

[supple pulsar]

if anyone's free to waste some time today, any chance we can get down to trying random shit until we get something?

[supple pulsar]

#🪹the-sepulchre-arg message

[supple pulsar]

i just realised something

when we got that barcode on the repository

it a1z26'd into "in the end"

like the first line in the encrypted text

[sly badger]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Khwarizmi https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khwarazm

[cedar venture]

Trying to get back into this, we get anymore hints as of late?

[supple pulsar]

anyone up for trying random shit?

[supple pulsar]

yep

.

.

basically

if im interpreting it correctly

[cedar venture]

Oh shit, that’s some good news lol

[supple pulsar]

lily's saying "the cypher has two steps to be solved" (which we know from kaminsky). "the first step has something to do with al-khwarizmi, the second has to do with blaise vigenere" (or pascal blaise, but it wouldn't make much sense).

then "the doom of which both lie with french and a1 respectively"

a1 definitely is refering to a1z26

with french is probably vigenere or beaufort?

so it makes me think as follows:

kaminsky says this is a new way to do cyphers

so far cyphers have been turn numbered cyphertext into letters, and if needed add something to it

[cedar venture]

Vignere definitely sounds french lol

[supple pulsar]

perhaps that just means we have to first do the cypher in numbers until the solution is something we can do a1z26 with?

[supple pulsar]

@boreal kite i see you 👁️

[cedar venture]

But at least we have an idea of how to finally do this lol

[supple pulsar]

📸

[cedar venture]

We just gotta try some keys, I guess

[supple pulsar]

well, yeah and no

[cedar venture]

~~alright, send me free steam keys, I promise it’s for the cipher ~~

[supple pulsar]

we have no clue still about what the first step with al-khwarizmi is

[cedar venture]

Hm

[supple pulsar]

man was a persian mathematician

[cedar venture]

Well we already have something we could test it with

The two IN THE END lines

[supple pulsar]

yeah

well

[cedar venture]

One translates directly to the other, right?

[supple pulsar]

my first though was

yea

in theory

2 98 43 3 8 3 06 8 = intheend (In The End)

a1z26'd it's 9 14 20 8 5 5 14 4

however, there is a clear discrepancy; several in fact.

for one, the cyphered text has numbers past 26, which means that the alphabet does not apply unless we loop it after 26

[cedar venture]

Oh yeah, actually meant to ask, does the newest information give us anything for the encrypted cipher going all the way up to like 99

Lmao same wavelength

[supple pulsar]

past that, there are numbers with 0's before them (like 06, while where are numbers like 3, 2, 8)

and finally, two numbers equal different characters

[cedar venture]

Yeah, that was fucking with me a lot last time

[supple pulsar]

what makes the most sense to me is

that there's a layer of vigenere which scrambles the text below

[supple pulsar]

nope, just riddles

we also have this: "IN THE MIDST OF THE SEEKERS SIRUGGLE WITH THE REVERSAL OF THE ESTABLISHED O G D T R C HANGING THE GLYPHS OF THE SAXONS AND THE PRISRANS FOR IHE SYMBOLS OF THE ALKHWARIZMI HAMMERED FIRST INTO FORM BY BLAISE THEN BY MACY OTHER S O N E S E N NIGHT PRIOR THE EQUINOX HOLDS THE I R SALVATION THE SPAN AFTER THE ARRIVAL O U"

[cedar venture]

I remember we tried looping the fucking, uh, that one custom cipher I forget the name of

[supple pulsar]

gwynn? nothing

[cedar venture]

Gwynstitution, yeah!

Yeah we tried looping that to account for the numbers above 26 lmao

[supple pulsar]

yeah

so

i did a1z26 and gwynn looping after 26, then tried bruteforcing a key on vigenere and beaufort for the first line but to begin with, the key made no sense, and everything past "intheend" was gibberish ("intheend" was the bruteforced text), so unless the key was longer, that was the wrong path

also the key was gibberish, like i said. i expect kaminsky to make the key a little sensical following the trends of before

that aside, i did try a couple of combinations for the following text, but got nothing

[cedar venture]

Still a good idea to try stuff out

[supple pulsar]

so, like i said

my biggest theory currently is

that we have to work the numbers first then a1z26 it back?

problem is

if kaminsky didn't lie to us

he uses cryptii for those kind of cyphers

like vigenere

vigenere can be mapped to numbers using the same algorithm as the alphabet

but

cryptii doesn't take that

unless kaminsky did it by himself

there's also the "Lock and key alike"

that may point towards the fact that both cyphers have a key

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/508108435036962816/1276310187627511930/image.png?ex=66ed513d&is=66ebffbd&hm=579395b9d9ce1957557cd0c8944abb0d5a65acb0c313882a59437d0ae8debeb5&

[cedar venture]

oh yeah, the embed curse lol

[cedar venture]

Maybe, could you elaborate on that a little bit?

Just a little unsure what you mean

[supple pulsar]

right

let me put it this way

so

usually if we get a cypher with numbers

we turn it into letters, then get the text

but what if here

we have to turn numbers into other numbers

then into letters?

i mean

if what i interpret lilies to be saying is right

then

when kaminsky encrypte the text

he applied vigenere, turned it into a1z26, and then did something else to it that turned into the text we have currently

anyways

apparently kaminksy thinks that we're overthinking it

to which i respond

[cedar venture]

Lmfao

[snow perch]

Getting told not to overthink immediately makes people overthink overthinking

But hey, I may just be overthinking

[rigid sphinx]

[snow perch]

Never In a millions years did I think that a funny swat game would have me meticulously researching ciphers and Al-Khwarizmi

[supple pulsar]

@rigid sphinx you got 6 people praying here already

💀

[potent furnace]

Just a coincidence, right?
Wouldnt ask if there wasnt a history of perpetrators in missions being connected to the deeper stuff

[supple pulsar]

@rigid sphinx how many prayers for a clue 🙏

[supple pulsar]

Might be worth looking at? We're currently working on the wall of numbers 😭

[rigid sphinx]

I guess my question is, what sort of clue?

[supple pulsar]

uhhhhhhhh good question!

guys what do we ask for 😭

i was thinking about asking what the fuck does al khwarzimi has to do or what does "lock and key alike" mean

any other suggestions

[ebon summit]

i think those are okay, they don't reveal the cipher itself, so

[snow perch]

the answer

[rigid sphinx]

Lock and key means 'the encryption string AND the key is the same.'
Al Khwarzimi is a reference to Arabic numerals as a whole

Which translates into, the first decryption stage doesn't use a Latin character key and cipher. It uses an Arabic numeral one

[mental tiger]

Arabic numerals are the ones we use here

Latin also uses base 10

So it's 1 not I

[left bough]

we're not using roman numerals, are we?

but well that means the key is gibberish when turned into letters

wait

that doesn't make sense to me

[left bough]

wat

X = X , so what is Y??

[mental tiger]

He said instead of Roman numerals we're using Arabic numerals which are the ones we use in modern maths like 1, 2 and 3

From what I can tell it's simply just a matter of formatting as both the Latin and Arabic counting systems are base 10

[supple pulsar]

man.

[wicked flower]

I am Not God

[snow perch]

How the hell were we supposed to solve this without this hint?

That’s what I’m wondering 😭

[left bough]

i was more confused about where the latin ones came from

[supple pulsar]

weelp

anyone feels like sitting down and trying things tonight?

[open needle]

Schools got me pretty beat tonight, but I'll see what I can do in a little bit

[supple pulsar]

Sure, if anyone wants to call just let me know.

[slate sierra]

what is sepulchre?!?!?!?

[real sparrow]

That's where we lie.

(check pins )

[red dock]

reminds me of this

true detective lol

[warm wave]

maybe the aspect of uncertainty is what completes the ARG

¯_(ツ)_/¯

just kidding, we need more

[left bough]

more?? pretty sure we have enough uncertainty

[sacred dawn]

[spring salmon]

has this been solved

[open needle]

Nope

[sacred dawn]

Tree fiddy for the answers

[frozen cloak]

I'll have someone pay that amount for these answers PLEASE

[visual rover]

can u help me and some friends understand ur Kaminskitution findings

[supple pulsar]

Kaminkitution is not the way to go, I believe

I can give you a walkthrough of everything if you'd like.

[visual rover]

Thank you add @frozen cloak too he’s trying to solve it with me

[supple pulsar]

If you'd like, I can get in a call right now.

[visual rover]

Bet

[strange jolt]

so does this mean that mlo are being used again cause if so thats hype

[frozen cloak]

LOSTCON 3

[autumn geyser]

The cycle:

• I return to this in hopes of contributing a little
• I read the progress and the numbers
• I read what's been done
• I see that it's everything I would have tried anyways
• I leave again

I did contribute a little and cleaned up a few parts of the doc but that's about all I got

[open needle]

Thanks to Helene, I should have some time to crack at this early in the week, so I can mess around with the arabic clues

[supple pulsar]

Gentlemen.

We must reunite at some point this week and look through everything.

[cedar venture]

Agreed

[autumn geyser]

Yeah that'd be useful

[visual rover]

For sure

[snow perch]

Sure, I’m down to come back for a bit

“Un-retire” if I may say

[velvet osprey]

I only heard of this yesterday, can someone explain the cliffnotes?
All that I can figure so far, from the name, is that it involves a tomb of sorts.

[rigid sphinx]

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1t5p5kZNz_RxjQq10YZIZUkOrwfy1inxgU3BHPnD68Uk/edit?usp=sharing

[snow perch]

I’m down to go through it this weekend; however, I’d prefer if some other people would join me too

I’m ready to look at it with a refreshed perspective

[shrewd yarrow]

I could try to be around this weekend. Wouldnt be around til like 7am cest or 8am eest

[astral coral]

what is sepulchre arg?

sounds like a conspiracy theory

[supple pulsar]

Can we arrange a day and hour?

@shrewd yarrow @snow perch @autumn geyser

[autumn geyser]

I mean I'm free most of the time apart from when I'm asleep (2300 - 0600 UTC+3)

[snow perch]

I’m going out of town Sunday through Thursday

[wide hemlock]

Hey sigmad

S

[snow perch]

So anytime before that is fair game

What about like in a few hours?

[autumn geyser]

I'll be asleep in a few but depends on how in a few

Home in an hour, editing photos for another 2, and then sleep

[shrewd yarrow]

Working on my end lol

[snow perch]

Damn

I can’t argue with chasing a bag

[shrewd yarrow]

I would suggest a friday maybe a saterday. If people are avaible in the early hours eu and late evening us

[snow perch]

I can do today or Saturday. I might be asleep so if you guys do it make sure to call me so I can hop on

[supple pulsar]

Make sure to add me there, I'm interested

[snow perch]

Kos and I did a bit of work together and we started working on as specific theory regarding "arabic numerals" and that big wall of numbers

٢ ٩٨ ٤٣ ٣ ٨ ٣ ٠٦ ٨ ٥٨ ٠٩ ٣ ٠٥ ٦ ٤٣ ٣ ٨ ٦٠ ٩٨ ٥٤ ٦ ٨ ٧٧
٢ ١ ٥٩ ٧ ٢٩ ٠٧ ٧ ١ ١١ ٢٩ ٠ ٩٨ ١ ٢٧ ٩ ٦ ٩٥ ٠٦ ٥ ٦ ٥ ٧ ٠٦
٨ ٥٨ ٥ ١٣ ٦ ٨٢ ٥ ٢٧ ٢٣ ٩٠ ٤ ١ ٢٣ ٥ ٧ ٠٦ ٨ ٧ ٢٧ ٢ ٧٧ ٥ ١٢
٩ ٠١ ٣ ٠١ ١٧ ٠ ٩٨ ٥ ٠٨ ٧ ٥٨ ٥ ٩ ٧٦ ٩٩ ٧ ٢٧ ٢ ٧٧ ٧ ٧ ٥ ٢٧
٩ ٧٢ ٨١ ٤ ٢٨ ٤ ٧٢ ٩٣ ٧ ٢٦ ٢٤ ٠٤ ١٨ ٢٦ ٢٩ ٩٠ ١٨ ٢ ٩٣ ٩ ٠٦
٥ ٤٣ ٣ ٨ ٩ ٠٢ ١٧ ٢٦ ١٧ ٠٨ ١٧ ١١ ٢٣ ٠ ٩٨ ٧ ٩ ٦ ٢ ٦١ ٩٧ ٥ ٥ ٠ ٢٤
٧ ٨٢ ٨ ٨ ٩٨ ٤ ٦ ٥ ١٣ ٢٨ ٢٣ ٠٢ ٧ ٤٠ ٠٨ ٧٣ ٨٢ ٨ ١٦ ١٧ ٠٦ ٠٦ ٤ ٠١ ٧٦ ٩٨
٥١ ٩٨ ٦١ ٢ ٧ ٤٨ ٠٥ ٣ ٠٧ ١ ٧ ٢٧ ١٨ ٣ ٥ ١٨ ٢٦ ١٨ ٩٠ ٤ ١ ٩ ٦ ٠ ٧ ٩٥ ٠٦ ٥ ٦ ٢٠ ٦ ٨ ٣ ٥٥
٩٣ ٠ ٩٠ ٤ ١ ٦ ٠٥ ٧٦ ٨٩ ٤٣ ٣ ١٨ ٣ ٥ ٠ ٥١ ٠٨ ٧٦ ٩٩ ٧ ٢٧ ٦

this is the wall of text translated into arabic

We also identified that Arabic numerals differ from english in a very interesting way
0 = ٠ and 8 = ٨
so 80 is literally just ٨٠
this could account for the numbers in the big wall that begin with 0 (e.g 09)
(also arabic reads from right to left, opposite of english).

---

we also noticed a few patterns regarding the date 09/22

As it comes up in MULTIPLE hints

So we know that this date is simportant in SOME way, I have one possible theory.

According to kaminsky "Lock and key means 'the encryption string AND the key is the same." This makes me speculate that 0922 could be a key when translated into arabic numerals (however this is completely speculatory, so take this with a grain of salt)

We need to figure out the significance of 09/22 OR what cipher we need to use. According to Kaminsky, the ciphers are ones that we've used before

that's all for tonight

[snow perch]

0922 In Arabic: (٠٩٢٢)

[left bough]

you telling me "in the end" might be "dne eht ni" at the end of the first row instead of the start?

[snow perch]

I mean, when translating Arabic to English, the Numbers would just read left to right (or how it normally is). Arabic reads EXACTLY the same as English, just from right to left

What I believe is that we have to solve this cipher (with the Arabic text) and then translate it back into English

[left bough]

but what does it matter which language the markings came from, if the markings still mean the same?

[snow perch]

That I’m not so sure, but Kaminsky mentioned how the numbers aren’t Latin characters and he also said something about Arabic numbers. I kinda just put 2 and 2 together and got this. But the main reason I did it was to account for the numbers that start with 0 (e.g 09). If we want a full definitive answer we need to figure out 09/22

I might make lily come out of retirement and ask him a question

[left bough]

retirement??

but "arabic numerals" or "arabic numbers" also means the numbers we use

as in that wll of numbers is already arabic numerals

although wiki does say the ones we use are specifically western arabic numerals
what you found are eastern arabic numerals

"The Oxford English Dictionary uses lowercase Arabic numerals, and the fully capitalized term Arabic Numerals for the Eastern Arabic numerals.[3] The term numbers or numerals or digits often implies only these symbols, however this can only be inferred from context." from wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_numerals

witha quick search on this channel, kaminsky uses "Arabic numerals" which according to the text i copy pasted are the western ones we use

latin characters are the text i'm writing right now

would likely mean that the key and cypher are numbers

[snow perch]

I’m picking up what ur putting down

[left bough]

how does one open a lock with another lock
especially when both locks are actually the same lock?

i hate math

[snow perch]

https://tenor.com/view/gus-gusfring-gif-24463299

GOD DAMN IT I FORGOT

[left bough]

lmao

[snow perch]

Ty I’m on phone rn 🙏

So, the absolute main reason I thought the entire Arabic text was because of those stupid numbers that’s started with 0. In Arabic text, (particularly using the Eastern Arabic numerals) number like ‘09’ actually work (I think).

But I see what you’re saying, so what I think we gotta just figure out that she’ll 09/22 bs

Also when I said “lily coming out of retirement” I just meant he would finally send a message after all this time 😭😭

[left bough]

those do work as is too, just forget the 0, problem is why they're there since these aren't "just any numbers"

[snow perch]

I strongly believe we have to do something different with those numbers, that’s probably what we have to “tackle differently”

[left bough]

yeah

but at the same time "they're cyphers you've used before"

"just a different way to use them"

i don't remember the exact words

[snow perch]

I remember Kos and I speculating about auto key ciphers yesterday

[left bough]

that is one i thought about too

[snow perch]

The thing is, there are so many damn ways to do ciphers differently

[left bough]

but i don't have a way to test it

[snow perch]

I’m gonna start taking a deep dive into 09/22 when I can

According to that one image, it’s “the first step”

And it relates to the exif data of the first image

[left bough]

what was the first image?

[snow perch]

That one with the chemical background, I’ll find it real quick

@boreal kite I understand that 09/22 is a date that comes up on multiple occasions. Being labeled “the first step.” Why is this date so important, aside from being the first step? Is it a key? Is it something to help us find a key?

[left bough]

but kaminsky said the cypher itself is a key

to the lock that is itself

or something

@boreal kite How does one open a lock with itself?

[snow perch]

That’s what’s so damn ODD about it, does it help us find the key?

We need to lock in 🗣️

[left bough]

i think we need to understand the key, since it's said to be right there

[snow perch]

Everybody asks what the key is, but not how the key is

[left bough]

we really need to start asking how the key is

[autumn geyser]

The McNally way

[left bough]

the what

[autumn geyser]

Have you not seen his videos

[left bough]

never even heard

[autumn geyser]

I shall dm you the one I'm referencing

[left bough]

ookay

are you serious

well how do we get a 9 from 2 twos?

gonna start hammering the lock with itself

[snow perch]

2*2 is four but there is actually a hidden +5

[left bough]

or even better

2^2+2^2+1 = 9

[snow perch]

The thinking cap is on rn Fr

[left bough]

problem is i'm trying to get a mathematical formula that would work with multiple of these

but i don't know how to math

i don't even know how to meth

[snow perch]

So first you gotta contact a man named Walter white

[left bough]

for math?

[snow perch]

For meth

[left bough]

oh i don't need instructions for that

i meant i don't know how to take em

[snow perch]

Real

“Ready or not players when they see a meth addict on the street. (it’s just like 213 park Homes)”

[left bough]

i don't wanna do this ||shit|| no more

so whacking two of em together doesn't work

[snow perch]

Im just gonna wait until lily respond, how do we summon Kaminsky again?

[left bough]

well he's online right now

sooo lostcon 4

i think there was something about the simplest solution being right

and what i'm doing is far from simple

but is there really anything simple about his?

[snow perch]

The Kaminsky summoning ritual:
1: light 5 candles and put them in a circle
2. Drink 5 liters of hard liquor
3. Offer your brain as tribute
4. Wait
5. (Optional) skip steps 1-4 and just spam @ him 5 times

[left bough]

pretty sure step 5 just gets you kicked out

@The Lilies Eyes how far are we?

[celest tree]

this shit looks like my math hw wtf

[sacred dawn]

Checked for posts made on 9/22 by void just in case. Yielded nothing since no posts that day by them.

[snow perch]

09/22 is important, but how does it lead us to the second step?

[noble patio]

what is this channel for?

whats sepulchre arg

[ebon summit]

here's a screenshot of the gif, because it didn't embed :(

[autumn geyser]

I possess special powers

[glossy epoch]

Is this arg dead ?

[supple pulsar]

No

[supple pulsar]

Just currently stuck

But very much so alive and schizo

[wind mauve]

yeah lots of behind the screen work into the land of madnes

[glossy epoch]

LOSTCON 3

[rigid sphinx]

I think I turned up the difficulty a little too much and went so flowery with my hints that I completely derailed these poor souls.

[autumn geyser]

lmao

you did indeed

[rigid sphinx]

At the minimum, I do now know the depths at which you mfs will go to deciper something so now I know how far I can push you all

[supple pulsar]

we are going mcfuckin insane

[sacred dawn]

HE SAID FLOWERY WRITE THAT DOWN LILIES = FLOWERS

[autumn geyser]

holy shit no way

I wonder how that might connect with something like the MLO

[snow perch]

😭

I think we’re getting back into at least

[glossy epoch]

you going schizo

[rigid sphinx]

Hey

You all went hard for the entire start of the Tutorial

A break was defo in the cards so don't feel bad at all

[snow perch]

I was just looking through the doc, all these hints make it seem so solvable. It can’t be THAT hard right? We can solve this Fr.

[left bough]

by all means, do solve it

[snow perch]

I am happy to say that I was still unable to make any meaningful progress 🙏

[ebon summit]

come to realize that this is all a test run for the real thing... and your chakras align... chi unlocked... you become the insane one 😭

[left bough]

"become" the insane one? 🤨

[snow perch]

intheendoneoftheunseenhandsmeetsanendbythehandofyetanotherhandinanendlesscycleofdominanceandsubmissionprostratingtheirsoulstoanideatoahandtheydeemmoreworthyuntilonlytheyremaintherotthedecaytherebirththegrowththeblooming

bingo

step 1 done

[supple pulsar]

HOW

What did you do?

[snow perch]

so, yknow how 09152027 "is the first step"

after a LOT of trial and error, i used it as a key for the beaufort cipher

then a1z

what funny is that I tried this MULTIPLE times, but accidentally included a space in the alphabet

[supple pulsar]

mfw i tried this but i used another page that fucked it up

😭

[snow perch]

lmaoo

[supple pulsar]

so, wait.

This is step 1.

[snow perch]

possibly

i want to see what this says first

[supple pulsar]

Or is it the whole thing?

I'll separate it for you

[snow perch]

"in the end one of the unseen hands meets an end by the hand of yet another hand in an endless cycle of dominance and submission prostrating their souls to an idea to a hand they deem more worthy until only they remain the rot the decay the rebirth the growth the blooming

[supple pulsar]

oops

[snow perch]

oh srry didnt see ur message

[supple pulsar]

dw

You did it faster LMAO

[snow perch]

protstrating my soul

i wanna do that fr

[supple pulsar]

@rigid sphinx give this man a medal

embed perms

[snow perch]

i think I know our problem

we tried solving the hints instead of trying to use the information from them

if you know what I mean

[rigid sphinx]

AYYYYYY

YOU GOT THERE SPOOKS

[snow perch]

we are so back fellas

[rigid sphinx]

From: @snow perch

[rigid sphinx]

just

pinning that

[supple pulsar]

sepulchre arg be like:

[rigid sphinx]

So.

[snow perch]

did this for you

[supple pulsar]

so erm

what the sigma

what is next?

[autumn geyser]

Damn okay

Good job spookinator

[snow perch]

man Im looking through my doc, and i look like a madman 😭

[autumn geyser]

So the wall of numbers referenced here is the message

[supple pulsar]

So uh

We're meant to

do something or

[rigid sphinx]

There were only so many ways I could say 'Stop overthinking' before I sounded like a broken record

[supple pulsar]

We waiting

[rigid sphinx]

Yup

[supple pulsar]

Which of the two 😭

[rigid sphinx]

Now you need to wait for Lily to rouse

[autumn geyser]

Now comes the 2 month long wait

It's directly proportional to how long we took

[rigid sphinx]

[snow perch]

😭

[autumn geyser]

Lilies went into hibernation from how long we didn't get there for

[rigid sphinx]

Hey. Now you all know

[autumn geyser]

Oh I knew

[rigid sphinx]

You guys can now just tap the sign

[snow perch]

Okay, i have some tips for us now, lemme write em

[autumn geyser]

I just knew that I best leave the actual ciphering to others

[autumn geyser]

I know who the cipher people are

[rigid sphinx]

That's what I tried to impress with the last hint as well

[snow perch]

makes sense looking back

[rigid sphinx]

use arabic numerals instead of modern letters

as the key for the known ciphers

BUT

Before we go any further

Feedback on the handling of the last major step and the hints up to now?

[autumn geyser]

Spook what did you do precisely to get it to work

[snow perch]

the hints helped me significantly looking back on them now, but when I was reading them I was SUPER confused 😭

[supple pulsar]

.

[autumn geyser]

Oh wait a1z then

I'm blind

[snow perch]

literally just that yeah

[supple pulsar]

all very good points

[snow perch]

making a note-sheet full of information is EXTREMELY USEFUL

[autumn geyser]

Now onto the text itself

My one and only contribution is this

I formatted it to add punctuation to improve clarity

The last part is a little confusing, might be good to keep in mind for future clues

[snow perch]

blooming? Interesting...

[autumn geyser]

Like a flower

No way

[autumn geyser]

.

[autumn geyser]

It's almost connected

If it's not done by the morning I'll make A6 be all pretty in formatting

And more direct

Cause rn it's a hot mess of schizophrenic ramblings

[snow perch]

i mean...schizophrenic ramblings worked for me

[autumn geyser]

Yeah true

[snow perch]

but yeah Ill help with that later

we DO have to clean this up

[left bough]

ain't no way

[rigid sphinx]

If anything, you need to figure out how the new string applies to the story

[autumn geyser]

I would like to nominate myself to be the keeper of the v1 and v2 docs for that is all I am good for

[rigid sphinx]

Hey

Stop that

[autumn geyser]

you can't make me

[rigid sphinx]

We're all learning here together linas

[autumn geyser]

well okay you technically very much can

[snow perch]

dawg, the reason we were able to solve this was because of the messages YOU sent linas

and everyone else too

team effort

[rigid sphinx]

It's a group effort!

[autumn geyser]

damn

But yeah I'd say take a break from thinking about this for the few hours that I'll be sleeping for and I'll clean it up in like 8 hours

And put it into v2

Oh btw

The worst part?

this is not kaminstitution yet

-# as far as I know

[left bough]

now that that's out of the way

what's the next one to solve?

[autumn geyser]

For now nothing afaik

[rigid sphinx]

[autumn geyser]

We just wait

[autumn geyser]

Ah right very well

[snow perch]

I think we all deserve a nice long (another 3 month) hiatus

[autumn geyser]

lmao

[rigid sphinx]

you'll get the kaminstitution glyphs soon

[autumn geyser]

Just in time for winter's hibernation

If lilies is a plant then it'll be quite some time before they wake up

Onto the wall of text deciphered, obvious observations made by a tired me:

• One of the unseen hands - Probably meaning MLO member or something along those lines
• Meets an end by the hand of yet another hand in an endless cycle of dominance and submission - Could be referencing the MLO flower ceremony thing? Dunno if that's how that works, alternate theory is that it's just straight up murder to get rid of mlo members that may be not as willing to do their jobs as they used to be
• prostration - Oxfort Dictionary Definition: "the state of lying stretched out on the ground with one's face downwards" (Kind of a defeat / dead style?) | "extreme physical weakness or emotional exhaustion" (Intuitive)
• prostrating their souls to an idea, to a hand they deem more worthy - Possibly leading back to my MLO flower leader ceremony thing (Also could be the chosen? Relating to all those faces of the chosen and save the chosen? Even if there's a fuckton of them, perhaps that's just the total tally of them all and only one is ever active at a time?)
• Until only they remain, the rot, the decay, the rebirth, the growth, the blooming - (Almost along the lines of a flower's lifecycle, first it spreads seeds, then dies cause they live like three entire hours, then those seeds almost rebirth the flower, then they grow and eventually bloom), could be to do again with the flower ceremony, could be some kind of structure of leadership thing? Previous leader's usefulness wears off, then the MLO picks a new one, which ends up blossoming, and the cycle repeats itself when that one dies off too

[supple pulsar]

One of the unseen hands is probably camellia

[autumn geyser]

That's all I got for tonight but I'll spend more time thinking tmr

Yeah possible

[snow perch]

alr, have a gn linas

[autumn geyser]

I'll throw that in the comments part of the wall of text in v1 and we can have a thread going there on what anything might mean

[supple pulsar]

Goodnight Linas <3

[autumn geyser]

I went area by area, feel free to add more comments on parts if you want to cover more general things

The comments can overlap

[snow perch]

alr, ty linas

I have an idea that could help us sort the doc

what if we sorted it by puzzle instead of branches. for example, this puzzle would have its own section containing the images, hints, explantion, etc

[autumn geyser]

Wdym

[snow perch]

let me make an outline real quick, easier to show than explain

[autumn geyser]

Fair enough

[supple pulsar]

I was thinking that perhaps we could make a doc per puzzle?

[snow perch]

actually

i think thats a good idea

[supple pulsar]

And link that doc to the main one, just so we don't fill up the main one with our schizo stuff

[autumn geyser]

Possible

[supple pulsar]

And we make a new doc for every puzzle

That we get

[autumn geyser]

Can someone check if the google docs thing lets you collapse headings in the body itself or not

[snow perch]

Im pretty sure it doesnt

[autumn geyser]

Fuck

Yeah that's the best way then

I'm afraid for future proofing

4 years down the line we feel like cleaning up our gdrive and we go "eh what's this, useless file, delete" and we just accidentally nuke the documentation of 5 months of work

But yeah that's a pretty good idea

[supple pulsar]

well

What we could do is

Whoever makes those docs can use a different drive account

I have like a gazillion emails

So I could just do that without fear of deletion

[snow perch]

thats like burning the Alexandria library 😭

[autumn geyser]

Or DDOSing the internet archive

[snow perch]

I still find that WILD

[autumn geyser]

That's the modern version of it

[supple pulsar]

also, can I ask something right now?

what is the current like

uhh

structure of the organizations?

like

is the lost = mlo?

is the MLO part of the lost?

dementia kinda kicked in sorry

[snow perch]

real, i forgot too 😭

[autumn geyser]

Or I could spend 5 months building a tool that automatically mirrors every change made to the docs to 3 docs across 3 accounts

[snow perch]

me when file-->make a copy

[supple pulsar]

fact

[autumn geyser]

If we go by Sixty's theory, which I LOVE, and the associated video still hits hard, then the MLO are part of the lost
The lost are anyone in LS who have any mental health issues and have as a result begun disassociating, which includes civilians or LSPD

So the Lost are basically people who saw some shit, felt some shit, and are now feeling empty

To put it simply

At least that's what I think the theory is

[autumn geyser]

Mfw I accidentally build the loop wrong and a file is downloaded any time any change is made (typing is going to download a million files)

[snow perch]

😭

[autumn geyser]

Throwback to when I did actually build a for loop incorrectly and then proceeded to completely break Firefox and freeze it to the point that not even Task Manager was able to end it

[snow perch]

me crashing google because I decided to make 5,000,000,000 copies of ONE document

[autumn geyser]

The google service technician watching the sudden influx of requests from some random IP (the kid in that home accidentally attached a bad event listener)

[snow perch]

real

[autumn geyser]

Anyways gn yall I'll go to work cleaning up the doc tmr morning

[snow perch]

gn

im gtg for now too, good work everybody!

[autumn geyser]

Btw A6-1 just showed us what we had to turn numbers from to

Quite literally could not be more obvious looking back at it

Even has a god damn arrow pointing from one to another

And we thought 9 14 20 8 5 5 14 4 was somehow anything OTHER than A1A27 even though it perfectly matches in the end

How did A6-2 contribute?

Was that just "Use numerals"?

[rigid sphinx]

Yup

[autumn geyser]

Ah alright

[rigid sphinx]

It's fine though, y'all just got a little lost in the sauce

This is your guys' lession

:>

[autumn geyser]

Oh btw fun facts with linas

word and google docs format things differently

[rigid sphinx]

[autumn geyser]

the half an hour I spent cleaning everything up on a local copy of the doc because I'm a responsible human being and don't like making big changes to the live environment will NOT transfer over effectively

[autumn geyser]

Also ai sucks

You can

Dunno why I even trusted it in the first place, I never trust AI in things

Alright doc is now cleaner I think

Also I reckon we should explain the v1 v2 docs in the v2 doc

Something like:
v2 - The document you are currently viewing. Made to be a quick and simple place to find all the information that matters and none that doesn't. If you're simply looking through the ARG to see what it's about, stick to here for now and go to v1 if you want to participate.
v1 - The working document. This is what the members of the ARG crew use while solving everything. This will have more data, including theories, things to note, and so on. If you are making content about the ARG, I suggest having a look through here as well to give more details.

[shrewd yarrow]

after reading and catching up..... and seeing how @snow perch got his answer I.... am litterly fackdesking

[shrewd yarrow]

did not think that the date was the key.....

lol

[shrewd yarrow]

updated the methods used for Doc1

[half hamlet]

Idk if this has been said, camellias are a kind of flower, I know it might be schizo but wanna put that out there

[autumn geyser]

Yeah all the MLO units seem to be named after flowers

Kinda fitting and reasonable

[half hamlet]

Could "blooming" refer to when they become part of the unit?

[autumn geyser]

Possible

[snow perch]

So real, what tf were we talking about earlier 😭😭

What really mess us up was the fact that we were REALLY over complicating things 😭😭

[rigid sphinx]

Honestly part of it was likely just me accidentally psyching you guys out by saying I was starting to turn things up a bit

[frozen trench]

I mostly lurk reading the ARG stuff, but this really is getting interesting. Some comments I'd like to leave on things I saw in game that seems to be related:
On dorms, the chosen is the weird reverend right? He is the one preaching and giving out drugs, safe to assume he could be the test subject. It's mentioned in the briefing he is almost a urban legend and nobody knows where he is from.
There are mention of caves, rust belt, etc. One of the named Dorms suspects is the same model as a Rust Belt Suspect, only speaks spanish, etc. Don't think that is a coincidence.
There also also mentions of caves under LS all over the game, including on water fountains found on penthouse, and the photo evidence on the cave expedition from Caesar's. I think that is related to the mountain range coordinates mentioned in one of the comments on the datasheet.

[autumn geyser]

I think the dorms preacher guy is just that, a regular preacher

I mean remember, the dorms were completely decimated by a hurricane but they were abandoned for a long time before that, so the homeless made it their home

LS has some wild shit, the homeless people are likely using drugs, especially with the dorms drugs on the pedestal

My mental lore is that the MLO chose that place explicitly for the purpose of drug trials because if you want to hide a specific needle and have it never be found, put that needle in with a million others

No one will suspect the insane homeless people when they say that there's new drugs going on there and they also make for some good subjects, why bother getting volunteers or volunteers if you can just give it to the local homeless who are desperate for any kind of high

Now in terms of the rust belt link - I'm inclined to think the MLO are in on the operation, you can see butterflies (Mariposa) everywhere in the cave, and they also have a good reason for being there, it's free test subjects. Think about it, desperate people trying to cross the border, get one or two picked off from the pack or just the whole group at once, claim it's to check some stuff or something, then they're never heard from again. It also doesn't help that B1 is located near the border between the US and Mexico, in a cave of all places
It's possible they have people on the inside on the Mexico side of things - who was that spanish speaking person, civ or suspect?

Could also just be that the immigrants became homeless because, well, what else could they be, and ended up in the dorms through sheer luck

And caves are reoccuring, yeah, that part is certainly something

And in the dorms, I actually have a theory that the veterans on that map with M4 rifles are actually MLO members too, left behind to delay the inevitable or to finish off 619

They obviously failed to finish off 619 cause he's out front in the ambulance, but it's not too late to hold that ground and refuse to negotiate and come out to make the officers, and specifically D Platoon, waste their time and effort so that the MLO can get further away

[stiff drift]

If this all just leads to pvp being added again I’ll cry

[rigid sphinx]

Hopefully tears of joy

[autumn geyser]

I will cry tears of sadness

[frozen trench]

Their passports are confiscated as well (one of the reportable evidence) so that is a big red flag that could point out to this being true.

[frozen trench]

I think so too, not just anybody has a spare mk18 around like that. Could be also connected to the left behind, which I also think are related to them, if not an MLO cell even. Because of the betsy ross flag that is on the room they recorded their demands on penthouse, and the steam achievement.

[weary venture]

Boimler pfp 🔥

[snow perch]

"in the end one of the unseen hands meets an end by the hand of yet another hand in an endless cycle of dominance and submission prostrating their souls to an idea to a hand they deem more worthy until only they remain the rot the decay the rebirth the growth the blooming”

This really just strikes me as a little ending statement, since I’m pretty sure we just finished the “tutorial”

The first unseen hand (cameilla) meets its fate by another unseen hand (the MLO)

[ebon summit]

This exactly, I thought this was already known/hypothesized, but I've had the same idea. Why would this one dude in body armor & a Mk18 hang around, if it wasn't to clean up loose ends left by whichever MLO operative fucked up and got'em made at DORMS.

[boreal kite]

a entity that does not exist is not unseen, it is nonexistent

[left bough]

oh? for real?

[wraith timber]

what is this

[snow perch]

Im going to assume that camiella is "nonexistant" now, which would make complete sense

[left bough]

ah, camomile got "gotten rid of"

i guess

[shrewd yarrow]

Or in hiding

But i am on the idea of dead

[snow perch]

eh, judging by lily saying "nonexistant," I'd hazard that camiella has been taken out of commission

[shrewd yarrow]

True

[weary venture]

Uhm I’m new here what is this ARG

[snow perch]

Welcome, this ARG basically makes us solve difficult puzzles/clues to piece together a story

I recommend checking out the docs and familiarizing yourself, we're going to be re-vamping the docs soon to make them cleaner and easier to read

( https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1t5p5kZNz_RxjQq10YZIZUkOrwfy1inxgU3BHPnD68Uk/edit?usp=sharing )

[ebon summit]

my hypothesis is cam intentionally leaked/left that comms log in an effort to expose what they could about MLO, now that they've been turned on

[left bough]

Cam got turned off

[eternal kindle]

OMMMMGGG guysss

you did it

holy shit

you are fucking beasts

[sacred dawn]

Wait what?

It's solved?

[eternal kindle]

the WoN is

as far as I've read all the discord messages

I'm cleaning up the doc once again aand we should really get some other naming/branching system going... C Branch is kinda wierd and you can't really keep A and B branch apart, can you?

I think it'd be best we go back to the roots and just number the pics in the order they appear. That eliminates the need for temp branch and doesn't get us in any wierd situation where we need to decide between two or more branches

[eternal kindle]

reworked doc v2 up to slide 8 too. let me know what you think

[wraith timber]

whats WoN

[left bough]

Wall of Numbers

[wraith timber]

ahh

[snow perch]

I have a pretty good idea for a megathread if we wanna make one, I made an outline earlier

[snow perch]

Just went through the doc again, good job Doinja, I really like what you did with it! nice work!

[autumn geyser]

Damn yeah that's good

Oh btw @rigid sphinx sorry for the ping but what was A4's cipher meant to be? Can't figure out what we were meant to do to progress past A4

Also what was A5's "remember 232 9252" meant to be

[rigid sphinx]

Never need to apologize for a ping. :>

also lemmie take a look

[snow perch]

just realized boomkaboom is gone, anybody know what happened to him?

[autumn geyser]

Oh also, only they remain might also be in reference to parasitic / alien plants. They often grow and spread super fast, and they often cover up the other plants from sunlight and have root structures bigger than the native plants, thus completely killing them or at least drastically reducing their population
This would also work with the "more worthy" aspect of things, those plants are better suited for survival

The MLO is kind of that if you think about it

They aren't welcome in LS but they are seemingly a stronger and better adapted, more developed entity than, say, the LSPD

[snow perch]

interesting...

[autumn geyser]

They also appear to be surviving better, despite the turmoil inside they continue to grow while the LSPD seems to be falling apart as of lately with how the civilians are turning on them and the mental health issues faced by presumably many of the officers

And also compared to the local populus, the "native plants" so to say, the civs are in hell, buildings falling apart, economic crisis, all this while the MLO appears to be doing not bad

And they're the ones causing many of the issues, just like an alien plant would

[snow perch]

why can't the MLO just chill the freak out and stop being criminals, it would make this ARG so much easier

[autumn geyser]

lmao

fr

Petition to get the mlo to become helpful

[snow perch]

I see what you are saying, how the MLO are the "parasites" thriving even though LS is going through hell

[autumn geyser]

What is the goal of the mlo

Is it just a revolution and gaining control?

[snow perch]

To spread peace and happiness 💯

[autumn geyser]

My favourite

[eternal kindle]

thank you guys! I wasn't sure if it was maybe too much info on one slide (img A2 for example). Also you did the real good job! you fking finally solved the WoN!! I'm so hyped noww

[snow perch]

I gotta brush up on my background information, I forgot so much. Ill get to doing that

thanks to this new beautiful document

[eternal kindle]

I'm not really done just yet but it should all be there soon

[snow perch]

Im glad that we're getting back into this ARG, it was a team effort, my schizophrenic scratches on the walls were based off of messages from EVERYONE

[eternal kindle]

@autumn geyser are you still there?

[autumn geyser]

Yep

[eternal kindle]

I read your comment about the branches aaand I get what you're saying but as soon as we rename the images and work with some of those we'll get the hang of it. Also A6 (WoN) would have to be C3 too, as there was some tracing done too aand I'm not so sure if A5 and A6 shouldn't also be B branch.

[autumn geyser]

Yeah that's fair

[eternal kindle]

soo what do you say should we just number em, or should we still go with a more complex system?

[autumn geyser]

I think more complex

[snow perch]

I did have an idea earlier, and I was wondering if we should expand upon it. Kos also brought something like it up earlier and I personally thought it was a good idea. I'm referencing the idea of a complete 'mega-thread'

or whatever we would want to call it

[eternal kindle]

what do you mean by that

[snow perch]

take the first sepulchre document for example

they have this really nice glossary, table of contents, and all of their puzzles neatly ordered

I was think we could possibly do something like that

I am explaining this very poorly at the moment 😭

[eternal kindle]

I get what you're saying but don't we have something like that

Every image has pretty much all the info that we gathered here in the discord

It's maybe not always full sentences but that makes it faster to read

[snow perch]

Fair, we don't have to do anything like that now, but maybe sometime in the future we could make a more professional looking doc.

[eternal kindle]

What makes you think our doc's not as professional tho

[snow perch]

it IS relatively professional, but its a bit messy and can be a bit overwhelming for a new person

[autumn geyser]

Yeah that's where v2 comes in

[snow perch]

I think our doc is fine as it is currently though

[eternal kindle]

Yeah I thought about this now. I really believe the messy part comes into the doc because we did not work chronologically. The old doc did and that makes it easier to understand I think

The images are soo interconnected or some not connected at all, that it does not make any sense to classify them. I believe there was a reason Kaminsky posted them in the order he did. You need the knowledge of one image to solve the next one, although they may have nothing at all to do with each other.

We could also incoorporate the theories at the points where they came up. That would give new readers an actual "story" to follow

[snow perch]

personally, I never really got the branch system, I understood its use at the start but now that we have so much information I find it easier to work chronologically

[snow perch]

I agree

[eternal kindle]

agreed, what do you say @autumn geyser ?

[autumn geyser]

Yeah that's fair

Wait ping me again

[eternal kindle]

@autumn geyser

[autumn geyser]

Ah okay

Thought my discord was acting up

[eternal kindle]

alright since we got it from the doc-master himself, I'll get on rearranging stuff right away

[autumn geyser]

Whos the doc-master

[snow perch]

you I think?

[autumn geyser]

Oh

[snow perch]

You are the keeper of the sacred texts

[autumn geyser]

lmao

[eternal kindle]

wait did we ever solve c1 and c2

sorry img 7 and 8

[autumn geyser]

Yep I think so

C1 was solved by tracing and I then also traced C2

[eternal kindle]

What was the lore behind the tracings

oh so tracing them solved it

[autumn geyser]

Fuck if I know, just a weird mess of something

Yeah and apparently I was pretty spot on on C2 cause Kam posted the official artwork he overlaid and it was similar to mine

So I think C is good for now

[eternal kindle]

yea i saw that, that was an awesome job

We're pretty much sure that A6 or img 10 concluded the tutorial, right?

[autumn geyser]

Yeah I think so

[eternal kindle]

how about we just leave the doc the way it was and start a new one

[autumn geyser]

Might get messy

[eternal kindle]

true

[autumn geyser]

Plus I really don't wanna remake everything

[eternal kindle]

I mean changing every little reference like "see img A6" would be like remaking everything too

[autumn geyser]

Fair

[eternal kindle]

I'll probably need about 2h to change all that

[autumn geyser]

We could go with a dual system for now as the transitionary period

And then work on that on and off

And anything from here on out uses the new system

[eternal kindle]

Or we put the images in correct order but name them after the old system

everything new that comes up gets a new system

[autumn geyser]

To be fair if we ever need to reference anything from the tutorial which we might we'd need the old system too

[eternal kindle]

yea that's what I was thinking

[autumn geyser]

Or both

Move images in the order and then use the dual system for the previous set

And new system for the new ones

That way even stuff referenced in the discord makes sense

And from here on out we refer to previous set with the new system

[eternal kindle]

wait I thought we're keeping the tutorial with the old system and everything new gets the new system

[autumn geyser]

My proposal is:

• Old set gets reordered and is also given the new system on top of the old system
• New set ends off the tutorial and is exclusively new system
• Refer to old set elements with new system from here on out and replace the mentions in the doc with new system (or a mix of both)

So basically the only place where old system exists would be in the discord messages

[eternal kindle]

yep that sounds good

[mint zealot]

Is this a chat for an entirely different game

[autumn geyser]

Nah it's just for the ARG relating to Ready or Not

[eternal kindle]

Something like that yea. Check the pins

[mint zealot]

Ohh is it filled with lore for RoN

[eternal kindle]

I'm reworking the docs rn. Does someone still have the exif data of img 6 (B2)? And what exactly were the steps you took? I'm kinda confused because the text in the doc is different from doc v2

[autumn geyser]

Yeah one sec

Also looks like someone didn't format their inputs correctly

[eternal kindle]

wait but where did we get the keyword "CRYPTII" from?

[autumn geyser]

In the image

There's tiny hidden text for cry on one of them and then ptii on the other

[eternal kindle]

oooh ok thx

[autumn geyser]

Fixed the link for raw media

Should be easier to find now

[eternal kindle]

where did we find "hFUKY" tho

[autumn geyser]

Filename of the image

[eternal kindle]

fellas, doc v2 is almost up to date. BUT I could only do so much and have to go now. Any slide with a yellow RoN seal is still work in progress! Please do not alter the seal or I can't pick up where I left off.
As for the normal doc: There's still alot I want to rephrase, rearrange and redesign. Feel free to help! We're trying to get everything into chronological order, so if you find any theories in the doc, look where to best put them and add them to "Things to Note" of that image. Also, I thought we could go through every message from lily and add a screenshot to the corresponding section in the doc.
Thank you guys!

Of course you can also update doc v2 and alter the seal after. Please don't just alter it for sake of uniformity though.

Try to stick to these fonts and sizes for sake of a clean look:
doc: Arial 11
doc v2: Lato 12

[autumn geyser]

Nice, good work!

[frozen trench]

Something interesting about the Jamul, CA coordinates. There seems to be a water spring there (Honey springs), and with LS being close to the border and the underground altitude, maybe there fishy things going on there? Perhaps MLO is tainting that water supply? Plus there is this water cooler in Ides of March that says drinking water comes from caves.

[wind mauve]

Isnt in the drug house the reason they are digging is also due to underground water for drugs?

[snow perch]

I'd like to mention this for future reference

apparently when changing the 'alphabet' for a cipher, its order-sensitive. Which means you can only get the answer if the alphabet is typed a specific way

e.g: 0 HAD to be placed at the end to get the answer. if it was placed at the front It wouldn't have worked

[frozen trench]

Yep that too, could be connected.

[left bough]

doesn't case sensitive mean it counts lowercase and uppercase as different characters?
numbers don't have that

[snow perch]

Oh yeah oops, you’re right, my bad. Meant to write ‘order sensitive’

[snow perch]

I assume we're just waiting until the next lily drop?

[stiff drift]

Like a crack addict waiting for a dealer yep

[autumn geyser]

oh god I found him in my math textbook

[snow perch]

Sepulchre ARG reference? 💯💯‼️‼️⁉️⁉️

[autumn geyser]

Can't believe it

[somber isle]

Say a YouTuber was looking for a particular site/forum to begin researching this rabbit hole. Where would they start?

[snow perch]

I'd hypothetically respond by telling them to browse through "https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1t5p5kZNz_RxjQq10YZIZUkOrwfy1inxgU3BHPnD68Uk/edit#slide=id.g2ef8b3509e5_0_45" and "https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mraLxzMsXWFkj8G_x4z4Xzf7BVlXaCjv1x_WnM9UrRI/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.b3i5cm3kc43e (I'd recommend doing this second)

also does this youtuber want to know about just this ARG or the original one too?

[autumn geyser]

I can confirm that I, too, would hypothetically tell them to go to those two docs, prioritising the first link (v2) first because it is the convenient all in one stop with only the necessary information, and none of our schizo ramblings

[supple pulsar]

I can also add that, hypothetically, if anyone needed a hand getting introduced into the ARG, I'd be more than willing to get in a call with them and explain anything necessary.

[snow perch]

4th times the charm Kos

[supple pulsar]

You saw NOTHING.

[somber isle]

Sweet! I might just take you up on that here soon!

[autumn geyser]

I'm down to help too

I've been here since before the first image

[supple pulsar]

I'd recommend you read up on the document surrounding the first ARG if you're not familiar with it already, there's also plenty of videos of it if that's more of your taste.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BL7nWO9WYQqG-RbBwMEEMzjNRooOJR4fZxeaRs3KdAk/edit?tab=t.0

[shrewd yarrow]

I can add in where i can aswell if needed

[snow perch]

just went through the V2, did Kam ever get back to us about A4?

[shrewd yarrow]

unknown atm

[snow perch]

alr

[autumn geyser]

Nope

[snow perch]

damn, hopefully we'll get something soon

if not we could always just sift through the old messages

[eternal kindle]

If yall get in a call, count me in too. I mainly did documentation and only some research but I'd love to hear some stuff that may not be in the docs and improve on that

[snow perch]

Me too I suppose

[rigid sphinx]

I can vouch for these big brained noodles

[supple pulsar]

Uhhh... How big would a noodle's brain even be?

[rigid sphinx]

Massive.

[shrewd yarrow]

Lmao

[stiff drift]

So are we waiting for dlc 2 to drop? Cuz that over grown resort looks like it could be a whole MLO map 👀

I know I’m wrong but that’d be sick

[snow perch]

I'd hope we don't have to wait until DLC 2, besides I dont think we even have to go in-game for this ARG (yet)

[stiff drift]

Fair enough, really hope we get some cool in game arg related stuff tho,

[sacred dawn]

Any ideas what this could be?

We're getting and oil rig and a yacht so far

Idk what this could be

[autumn geyser]

Looks like some kind of a nature greenhouse

A big one

Or some kind of a resort

[sacred dawn]

I haven't done anything to the image itself yet. I've examined the other ones pretty closely and haven't noticed much

[autumn geyser]

The sunbathing chairs imply sun access, so definitely open or glass roof

Though the weird concrete scructure at the foreground is tripping me up quite a bit

Think that's also trees in the background, so deffo some kind of nature place

[sacred dawn]

There's a scissor lift there

So hints at one point was maybe under construction but abandoned?

[autumn geyser]

Kaminsky can we get some exclusive images for the upcoming maps purely because we're arg people

[sacred dawn]

Idk this is tripping me up because I can't tell what this last map could be

[autumn geyser]

Same

I'm thinking some kind of resort

[sacred dawn]

Def abandoned in some form

The outer windows look like it has foliage on it too

Or that could be the glass stain

[snow perch]

I’d agree with the resort, looks like some sort of abandoned garden that was either getting renovated, repaired, or under construction

[autumn geyser]

Honestly by the looks of it DLC2 is connected with wealth

Oil rig - money, big money with oil
Yacht - You only own a yacht if you are wealthy as fuck
Resort - "Fuck's a resort?" - anyone not wealthy

[snow perch]

It’s one of those country clubs where rich people golf 😭

[autumn geyser]

Honestly hostage situation seems very likely for all three of these as a theme

You could kinda guess what a map's theme is based on the map itself, and with all of these I wouldn't doubt that it's some kind of not ideal situation

Perhaps resort is more homelessness, but the other two I can't see a way for active shooting / barricaded suspects

[snow perch]

Oil rig- human trafficking
Yacht- Bomb threat/active shooter
Resort-drugs

That’s what I think

[autumn geyser]

Fair

[snow perch]

Maybe scramble em around

[autumn geyser]

Though counterpoint, what is a bomb threat but just a more advanced hostage situation

[snow perch]

Fair

You are holding the structure hostage

[autumn geyser]

Also how would human trafficking on oil rig work

[snow perch]

I mean, secluded place, ships can easily get to it, and I WANT IT TO BE THAT

It would be cool

[autumn geyser]

Ah yeah fair

But ultimately freak, riddle me this

what is human trafficking but just a long term hostage situation

[snow perch]

Real

[red dock]

chairs suggest abandoned resort or private clubhouse

we could assume what they "do" or did in here. Ready or Not is not one for being subtle 😭

[wicked plank]

Could be an abandoned swimming complex

But considering its ready or not it's probably an entire resort that's taken over by thugs armed with M249s and HK416's

[real sparrow]

resort is the new old farm

it blooms in there

[autumn geyser]

God this argument causes me pain

But yeah I'm willing to bet it's a resort

[glacial ferry]

Do you perhaps like spotting planes land? I used to love aviation, i remember playing X-Plane 11 a little while ago

it was a phase of mine

[autumn geyser]

Yep

Aviation's a fun hobby and I enjoy planespotting

[glacial ferry]

yeah, your profile picture reminded me of how ryanair was a meme for its horrible landings and such back when i was invested into aviation..

used to watch that swiss guy on yt or wtv..

[autumn geyser]

Still is to some extent

This one was pretty damn butter if I've ever seen one

[glacial ferry]

very rare from my knowledge

[autumn geyser]

Yeah they don't do that that often

[open needle]

It also reminds me of that museum from tlou

But it is probably a nature thingy

[coarse oriole]

I think this letter written by Victor Ortega is part of the ARG

[teal patrol]

fein

[autumn geyser]

mods send this man to the shadow realm

unless of course this is part of the arg

little did we know kaminsky's making us join a tg group and start investing and that's how we get to the next image

We gotta double our money and that's how we get to stage 2

Thank you mods

[snow perch]

We need to invest in the Kaminsky Pyramid scheme to continue

[sacred dawn]

Classic spam (shit GTA 5 graphic pack)

[autumn geyser]

Oh is it

damn

[sacred dawn]

Shameful plug

[autumn geyser]

Yeah that's just kinda sad

Imagine advertising to a god damn arg chat

[sacred dawn]

Dudes spammed in multiple chats
Imagine being that desperate to get people to join your discord and download it.

<@&925148041126760529> shadow realm this fool

[eager atlas]

It had to be the @ mod ping

[sacred dawn]

Sorry babe

It seemed like a slow morning for you guys

Job security

[snow perch]

Thank you hustler for looking out for the moderators 💯💯

[wary ridge]

[autumn geyser]

What's the main difference between a direct @ moderation team and dming toc

I presume dming toc doesn't @ the mod team and lets you track things better but that's just guessing

[sacred dawn]

Direct @ is like getting fast food at the drive thru

TOC is like waiting to be seated at a restaurant

[rigid sphinx]

I

Hate how accurate that is

[autumn geyser]

lmao

Btw kam when you get the chance, could you check A4 and let us know what it was

[rigid sphinx]

[rigid sphinx]

What do you mean exactly?

[autumn geyser]

The cipher for a4

Or I guess what we had to do to progress

I don't think anyone remembers what it was

[rigid sphinx]

You got it right here though A trifid group 5 no key to Caesar shift 7 got us the following

OHHH

Nevermind, I see

[autumn geyser]

Yeah

New naming system

[rigid sphinx]

So that part of the branch was the 'payoff' as it were, less a solvable path more a statement

[autumn geyser]

Ah

So basically just more info instead of something we solve

[rigid sphinx]

Yeah

If there's something to crack, then it'll be something indicated by something being noticibly off in the image

[autumn geyser]

Yeah fair

It's also probably gonna help if we properly journal everything

I don't think we noted anything down in A4 and that's what led to our current confusion

[sacred dawn]

The face that's in that picture

[snow perch]

Direct @ is like demanding a manager while TOC is just waiting patiently to file a complaint

Have we discovered the chemical in A6 or are we even able to?

Thinking about sitting down and trying to mess around with it

[sacred dawn]

Lmao even better

[shrewd yarrow]

I like this saying more

[snow perch]

the bell tolls for thee

[shrewd yarrow]

For whom the bell tolls! Time marches on

I have heard the summon and i have come

[obsidian brook]

Thy, not thou's

[red dock]

random question but can anyone refer me to additional Judge codenames, id number or Aliases

was looking for it and wondered if arg had anything

[sacred dawn]

Puppet, (Possibly "The Chosen?")

I can't remember any codenames from here that pointed to him exactly

[wind mauve]

cohort is also something he was called seperate from the first cohort ifrc

[wind mauve]

guys

what if the true answers ... ||was the friends we made along the way||

i do hope @boreal kite will come back soon to give us a taste of blood once more

[snow perch]

real

[shrewd yarrow]

With time Lilies will return. For now.... enjoy the moement 😛

[snow perch]

boo

I want a puzzle 🗣️

[sage lion]

@lapis sierra

[lapis sierra]

?

[autumn geyser]

Dunno if it was ever called out but the filename for Image 10-3 (A6-3) was the beginning of the lost

25 20 22 3 via gwynn translates to l o s t

[shrewd yarrow]

no it was not, nice find!

@autumn geyser has anyone asked lilies about the msg Freak deciphered?

[autumn geyser]

Don't think so

[shrewd yarrow]

@boreal kite "In the end, one of the unseen hands meets an end by the hand of yet another hand in an endless cycle of dominance and submission, prostrating their souls to an idea, to a hand they deem more worthy, until only they remain, the rot, the decay, the rebirth, the growth, the blooming" what does this mean?

uh Lostcon 6?

@autumn geyser lilies is MIA

[autumn geyser]

w h a t

oh

It's prob discord being discord

[shrewd yarrow]

proabably

lol

[autumn geyser]

Oh wait yeah lillies is offline

end of tutorial fr

We're bouta get a new guide

[shrewd yarrow]

probably

[autumn geyser]

Added some stuff to this table of filenames

Also check the comment regarding Untitled(n).png

[shrewd yarrow]

looks good!

[autumn geyser]

Starting to think this was a coincidental find

And not intended as anything

Gonna add this to the list of clarifications from Kam

[shrewd yarrow]

yeah

i can agree to that

[autumn geyser]

Also kam's not gonna slip by me

I have email notifs on for any and all edits made to the doc

And I check all of them

If he decides to put something in the doc as a clue I'll know within an hour's time

[eternal kindle]

lol you must get spammed when i have one of my edit sessions then

[autumn geyser]

I have only enabled it as of recently

But also keep in mind that if you edit during one session it'll send me only one email

[eternal kindle]

oh ok good to know

thx for the updates btw

looks good, i like it

[autumn geyser]

@rigid sphinx Sorry for the @, whenever you get the chance, could you let me know about the following:

• The image attached below, does that mean anything or was that just a coincidental find
• What did "Remember 232 9252" mean? We tried Gwynn, we tried A1Z, and it just yields BCB IBEB or ETE FEXE, and neither one leads to anything comprehensive or helpful, was this something we had to then beaufort / vigenere?

Also, do the
"Untitled(n).png" titles hold any weight? Do the numbers mean anything? Or is it just decor

Same with the untitled11.copy.png

[snow perch]

ETE FEXE was something in Latin I thought

One second lemme check

“Be quick,” or something

[rigid sphinx]

That's entirely luck with how it came out and I thought y'all decoded that one? I'll have to poke through my docs and see what it was again

[sacred dawn]

My brother in Christ I can confirm thats nothing. Its just the plant on the other spawn.

We haven't gotten anything in awhile and delving back into schizo mode. God rest our poor souls.

[snow perch]

I saw that 🙏

embed failure

[autumn geyser]

That's why I said that before, now I'm making sure before I remove some useful thing

Fucked up way too many times with shitty attempts at solving this so now I don't wanna do anything without confirmation that it's safe or proven

[snow perch]

Seems like we’ve got plenty of downtime to work with, anything else that we might need?

[shrewd yarrow]

Not that i can think of

Think were just waiting for Kaminsky to comfirm something in his notes from what linas asked

[forest shadow]

isnt there a few things left unsolved