#🪹the-sepulchre-arg
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is "the lord below" as is, or do we need to figure out a single word that it means?
good question
Devil/satan
Lord below
istill think it's PTO
that way the two 3 letter groups fit together
I think it's pth but idk
i say we have at least 4 possiblites
Ye
ptii, pto, pth, pni
cryptii, crypto, crypth, crypni
oh wtf the arg reopened
yup am reading it rn
the media player icon in the task bar looks like it's this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PotPlayer
Yeah it's potplayer
I have it
Kinda nice but rarely use it
It's like the VLC of the modern-er era
Nothing out of the ordinary
what are the current ciphers and files we're dealing with rn?
can see from backlog so far that we have the .bmp and the bellaso cipher thing?
ye
fun
Indeed
what's the ciphertext again? sorry i'm kinda lost with the gdoc myself
wait isn't bellaso just vigenere from the mechanics i'm seeing rn
Idek
"UYMGMCZN.RR" i'd assume
damn my mind is so fried that I can't even understand what ciphertext is, I genuinely thought that meant one of the keys
B2 is what were calling it
the only contribution i remember having was hard guessing a cipher that left people stuck for weeks in the original sepulchre arg lol
i'm not sure how i can be of help rn but i'll try smth with the cipher if i have time
please do
this is what i did
i hope they didn't make it any harder this time ngl
i remember for the ultrakill arg someone had to write a python script to solve 1 of the puzzles lmfao
desubstitution tool gives too many options
the last 2 letters after the dot are the same, which doesn't make much sense
and i got two results for crypt:
DOCXCMHR OO
DOCXCMHR TT
having a dot there in teh fisrst place doesn't make much sense
yo uh
the video description on the dlc teaser
has anyone looked into it
probably nothing but it looked lowkey suspicious to me
UUUS76 MLLX 2246 NMSMIX
Yeah no that's been confirmed unrelated
ah okok
I spent some time looking into it
If you are curious, the doc has everything you really need to know afaik
yeah i was just going by what i got from the exif
so what is the context of the arg then
wdym
the dot being there makes it seem like a filename
maybe?
Possible
but what filetype uses two of the same letter?
I mean the whole arg, what they like talk about
that's what were figuring out lol
yea
some secret organization keeping an eye on the police forces
So far the arg is 7 people become more and more schizophrenic and lose their minds over minute pixels on an image
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URL uses the same format as images from Associated Press, which uses this CMS https://www.brightspot.com/documentation/brightspot-cms-developer-guide/latest/image-urls#understanding-image-urls
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CC C++ language source
FF Farbfeld image
HH C++ header file
Damn
damn
im 95% sure kaminsky wont be having us look through source code yet
You never know
¯_(ツ)_/¯
honestly
could very well be farbfeld since it's an image format
we may need to pull an ultrakill and code something in c++, in the worst case scenario
I mean he's making fun of us with this bloody bellaso cypher
dear god not coding
please
I've had enough of that
I don't wanna learn C++ for an ARG
oh god...
were still in the tutorial keep in mind
if this is the tutorial
so advanced techniques are not necessary
then lord save us for when the real thing starts
ikr
found more
XX XX-encoded file (ASCII)
were just missing something, we have the clues
Oh I like that a lot
ok should be all
oh no
CC C++ language source
FF Farbfeld image
HH C++ header file
LL LLVM Assembly Language
XX XX-encoded file (ASCII)
it's any of these 5
its definitely not assembly
Okay so we got 3 coding, 1 image, and 1 text encoding
yeah, probably drop the coding filetypes
are we even sure its a file
no
the . made us suspicious that it may be a file
but it's a weird word
it could be an abbreviation
dots also dont transfer over with the thing
like most of the other messages
the bellaso cypher
aye
i swear to god
why'd they pick such a complicated cipher if it's a dead end then
¯_(ツ)_/¯
To make us suffer
can someone paste the cipher text here
UYMGMCZN.RR
you also need the alphabet and key btw
^
it's somewhere up there
someone also said it's either 20 letter italian alphabet or 26 letter english alphabet
should probably write these in the doc
i'd assume english
since we're working in english
yea
so its a vigenere cipher
with extra steps yes
not necessarily
yea pretty much afaik
the description makes it seems like hes talking about Bellaso, who made the vigenere cipher
try using this maybe
maybe it's not the bellaso cipher then
it's just vigenere
we may not need an alphabet
thats what im thinking
just the text & a key
its "Bellaso's" trick, not "the bellaso trick"
well yeah, but the bellaso cipher is also made by some bellaso
it would make sense if it wasn't that complicated
CRYPTII - SHXITURL.AC
CRYPTO - SHXITOXW.CT
CRYPTH - SHXITVXW.CT
CRYPNI - SHORZUXW.TC
Perhaps it's not a filename extension but a url?
use a cipher identifier
bellaso cipher is not in the list
most accurate is vigenere cipher
ye
but i think its backwards for a reason
i wonder if its "the soul" or "in the soul" backwards
FFEYXJRF.CY PTII
FFYRTOKU.DC PTO
FFFRTVKU.KC PTH
FLERZUKA.JC PNI
i was playing around with viginere
JEYOIVGA.JG backwards
MLTZIKLT.GJ
with in the soul
Tempted to code a quick cli viginere decypherer if that's even possible
not without a key
yeah ik
but like you put in the key and it immediately gives the result
cause this website is a pain to use ngl
https://www.dcode.fr/vigenere-cipher one i been using
god damn it i hate the filter so much
I just got "Possible spam" after sending python code lmao
though in fairness that is actually pretty valid
A valid reason to flag a message, I mean
fair
At least now I can rapidly test stuff without load times
I'm starting to think it's some sort of url
Not a filename
Though it could be a filename
Ah maybe
could be
Possible, will have to see when we actually decipher this thing
Also wouldn't a bruteforce require manual verification
So you'd have to basically manually read through millions upon millions upon millions upon millions of deciphered messages
if it really is two words, then the second 2 letter word should be easy
if it wasn't only 2 letters
you can use AI to check for english words
Ah yea valid
I reckon it would be really funny if I learned how to work with api stuff and AI for the sole purpose of solving a READY OR NOT ARG
lol
openAI API is actually pretty straightforward
Yeah probably
theres a lot you can do with it, but to start with it not too complicated
And then we just use some tool to link our gpus together to perform an insane amount of computing
And in 2-3 business years we might have a word that works
ive been using auto-solve and ive come up with a few words but they dont really make sense
I think we need to actually find the right key first
100%
only hint i can think of key is whats in image B2a
holy fuck
i got it
you guys were right
its a URL
the problem is finding the second half
second half?
of the URL
what's the first half?
omg it was ptii
i have my doubts about that
well yeah
so whats to doubt about it
the problem is finding the 5 characters that come after shorturl.at/
ive tried the image name hfuky but no results
shorturl@
nah shorturl.at is the website
ah ok
and i tested shorting a url, it generates a 5-character string
i was almost certain the 5-characters would be hfuky but no luck
well hFUKY sure took me to a mediafire thing
wut
yo!
i don't like the fiels in it tho
whats the URL?
YO?
i tried shorturl.at/hfuky/ and shorturl.at/hFUKY/
https://shorturl.at/hFUKY
i have no idea how trustworthy that is
Lemme run it on a vm
One sec
Don't do anything
Windows sandbox coming in handy
oh?
Ah okay good
so heres what it is!
Nice work
another cipher.
GOD DAMN IT
VYC RHLM KJ GC MPM UKPJVBCTV MU E1
VYC RHLM KJ GC MPM UKPJVBCTV MU E1
and theres another acrhive
protected by a password
seems that's the password for it then
can some lovely gentleman update the google doc
probably ask if that's even supposed to be it?
Will do
Deffo is
new cipher is a bifid cipher
uh?
what
vigenette cipher gave that
THE CODE IS IN THE STRUCTURE OF L1
holy fuck
oh
4L1
LOL
what code
and what is "structure L1"?
i tried C24 H23 N7
thats what linch and I found
^
4L1 the drug precursor
the chemical structure of 4L1
GOT IT
What was it
C24H23N7
[Begin log]
[USER OLEIFERA HAS LOGGED IN]
Oleifera: Why wasn't the site sterilzed before relocation? A gunfight with the local PD is the last thing we wanted.
Grjsii: Chrys relayed that GRNSD was clear for use
Oleifera: Why didn't anyone double check?
Gilbertii: I did, but Chrys gave me old intel and footage
Chrysantha: I followed SOP, there were no bodies within a k for a few days
Oleifera: Until there was.
Grjsii: 4L1 still kept them quiet
Oleifera: Now we have several pricipals in custody, one dead, and an LSPD officer in our safe house.
Oleifera: Euph, liase with our plants, calm the waters and bury the Hand at GRNSD.
Oleifera: Grj, Process Gil. If they're worth it, take them. If not, field them.
Oleifera: Gil, bring me Chrysantha.
[USER CHRYSANTHA HAS LOGGED OUT]
[End log]
oh dear god
i would of had it before if i didn't have spaces!
FBBS
"4L1 still kept them quiet"
oh boy
FBB
that checks out with the message
“
Camellia to Command
Chosen secured
Relay/Release to Greenside
Compound 4L1 administered
“
is 4L1 a chemical suppressent?
4L1 is a precursor used for developing new drugs
a stim maybe?
it is used from things such as cancer treatments all the way to ibuprofen and DNA strand tracking
right
most commonly, it is used as a precursor for testing new pharmaceuticals
so maybe Gerad was on to something
if it "keeps them quiet" i doubt its a stimulant
most likely a roofie of some sort
or some kinda memory wipe
@rigid sphinx you are good as fuck at storytelling bro this is like the plot to a crazy ass movie
dude my fucking hands are shaking
Fr, great storytelling
aye
should we make a TL:DR so people can easily catch up
Yeah we should
Just a very quick rundown of the lore so far
Basically a timeline
[]LOCAL LEO INTERFERENCE”
“[]CHSN DSGN. THREATENED”
"Oleifera: Why wasn't the site sterilzed before relocation? A gunfight with the local PD" this matches
Possible
who probably went into hiding
this looks like higher ranking members talking to each other
Oleifera
Grjsii "Grj"
Gilbertii "Gil"
Chrysantha "Chrys"
and "Euph"
are these all plant names?
Definitely MLO
Yep
yep
what plant would "Euph" be?
Euphorbias
good question
and the planst Euph was told to liaise are probably the officers
this is like a fucking cult
Sure is
k is probably kliks
More like a super secret intelligence agency but yeah
FBBS
so uh
now what?
when you said this Kam reacted
yea ik
lol
Kaminsky probably has the biggest smile going ear to ear right now
this makes me wonder.... was officer:619 someone this group kidnapped
and when Judge(us) hears about this were now on a manhunt for our man?
that could be
investigating reports of maybe from homeless
like maybe they started with the homeless then a officer cameaknocking they took him
or her
i can't find a plant named "grjsii"
"Oleifera: Now we have several pricipals in custody, one dead, and an LSPD officer in our safe house." this matches
That’s camellia
nvm, now found it
possible
grjsii seems to be the one in the area, yeah
or oleifera is there and the other Gs just went through info
it's Camellia
That’s my guess
they're all camellias
Interesting
or a form of it
steam page updated again https://steamdb.info/app/3015760/history/
the "Euph" Oleifera mentioned might be Euphlebia
its possible
since they're all acamellias that would be it
Checks out
thats true
I really hope the arg is official lore
so you guys know that moement of when your at the end of a horror game at the final boss and the boss is on it's last legs and your "ike..." come on! come on! so close!" and then you kill it after quite a few attempts and you get that feeling of triumph and the adrenlin leaves your body...
that was me towards the end lol
@rigid sphinx i apologize for the ping, have you guys as a team been updating the dlc page screenshots as the arg progressed?
are we still in the tutorial?
cause i feel like the the screenshots have been changing as we went along and solved things
omg!
that's awesome!
There will be a clear and notable divide, yes
ok kool
o no
too many eyes rest on us
they must be closed
updating the doc
that sure sounds like a clear and notable divide to me
are we to wait until the waters have been calmed then?
or are we supposed to somehow find and remove cameras?
i think lilies eyes is saying they are going to wait until the next clue is dropped
either that or things are about to get harder
well it seemed the thing went belly up and ended up in the news
100%
so i guess just gota wait since that's how the news things die down
mmhm
🐊
with time they will reveal more, right now the LS news is reporting on this
doc updated
Whoa
Top cryptologist from around the globe are still trying to figure out when....
The dlc drops :/
Also with that thing mentioning the hand you guys ever look in the jail cells? Notice whose missing from there?
Gerard, Elaine, Eve, Qudamah
Qadamah I think had some sort of relation with the USIA
in b4 when we fully figure out the arg it drops 
oh dear god
my condolences ready or not players
they're gonna be complaining for a while
nahh its the achievments
idk if it has some relevancy though to this
Its a performance enhancing drug. But its spelled like its in tarkov instead of irl "meldonium"
bruh ain't no way
the vigenere cipher is already decoded
oh idk I just looked at achievments
okok so the achievements are currently our next puzzle?
no
I dont think it has some relevancy to this whole thing but it might
Just weird to put that there you know?
Since we're on the topic of drugs and super soldier swat :/
code is in structure of 4l1
so we have to look at the chemical structure of the compound thingy
weird tho
when i google it, results don't have the "bi-" prefix
dude i haven't touched chemistry as a school subject in 4 years
i don't know what i'm doing
my field of study is cybersecurity dawg i should've stayed up to help with the cipher 
pulled 2 diagrams labelled as the mentioned compound from researchgate
no idea how you can extract a code from this
Oh no
If you're cybersec and interested in the ARG
I may need to call in the big guns
SAME

I don't wanna feel like the dude standing on the side watching as everyone else does literally everything else
my schlawg dawg didn't you crack the vigenere while i was asleep
Honestly, feeling useless is normal in an ARG. That just means you have room to learn skills that can help or otherwise help interpret data points
Always remember
Experts have a bias
You don't
I'm still mad I woke up and got teased :/
I rushed to that steam page so fucking fast
I guess
But at the same time what's the point of no bias when you have no knowledge that the bias can't form on
Yea
ok i guess we got nth to work on atm
i mean the active puzzles i was aware of was the EAS screenshot, the vigenere cipher, and the chemical puzzle
Check the doc for info then
oh A4
there was a thought at the back of my head when i viewed it but i dismissed it as wild assumption
because there's that yellow icon on the taskbar
idk what app that is
i have a feeling the taskbar apps may be what we need to progress in A4
Yellow icon is potplayer
Common media player, kinda like the vlc of the modern-er world
by any chance have we tried steganography
again another wild guess but there may be smth hidden in the photos
A2 did
no wonder A1 and A2 have abnormally large sizes
ok
don't think anything can be hidden and have the file be 190kb simultaneously
ok now i'm stumped with A4 screenshot
maybe there's a lead by looking into the filename of the .jpg image and the chrome URL
or maybe not
ok
probed URL, lsnnews.com doesn't exist as a domain, devs didn't do it like PAYDAY devs did
yeah now i'm genuinely stumped
maybe lilies was implying we gotta wait for further content to be released
gonna go get mcdonald's now
am done here for now lol
It probably isn't, but I can't help but think that is Judge with the laser eye meme
@topaz jackal check the doc
hell yeah same here bro
nvm just recaught up
yeah atm if we had any focus it would be A4
i asked @boreal kite about what their phrasing ment, i got a response were just in cooldown til the right time
no no, we all worked together to get this so in my eyes it was a team effort!
I did some more thinking and I feel like we're currently on good pace and just have to wait
Cause Branch A is on hold cause all the eyes are on the mlo and they wanna keep it quiet for now, branch B might be a more long term one that requires longer gaps inbetween stuff
Yep
Now let's quickly flood this chat with random garbage to hide these messages so Kaminsky doesn't read them and think to make the arg infinitely harder
gm, been awake for around 8 hours already lmao
ah gotcha
Bit unusual for my timezone cause I was up since 2 but stuff happens
after we finished up i ended up taking like a 5.5-6hr nap lol
Damn
its been pretty normal for that to happen
since i came more invalded in the ARG
100% worth
Btw been thinking that we should use more codes for the outline of the google doc
For instance, put an S before an image's name to mark it as solved or NS for not solved
So that when you're quickly glossing through, you don't need to read about the images themselves, you can just go direct to the unsolved one
List
Wanna test the theory on whether or not it would work?
also holy shit we were almost right on that layout
not entirely right but pretty close
Yea the bearcat is a bit off from where I put it but pretty good
That'd be fun
agreed
I'd love to see the arg go down a more interactive path
Nice
:>
Just didn't want the convos to hide stuff now that general and ron have slowed down
apologies for the random convo just felt safer here then general lol
Yeah fair, btw just out of curiosity, does that purge also log the deleted messages or just purely purge them? Cause if it just purges them, then dyno's got a useful purge after command
Naw, that's fair
Zep does keep a log
but we'd rather have it that way
Also damn yeah lilies eyes really doesn't wanna talk do they
no, must really be in hiding
This might help for going back to other levels and recheck dates
If that's coming with the update I hope...
so are we gonna hold off until lilies says something again
i mean given the gameplay trailer is out
there may be smth inside
Thats what i am waiting on since i did ask the questions. I do suggest others start anayzling things that we may have missed or overlooked. And i will update the doc as needed when i gey a response
Basicly some group is using a drug to keep control of people
hmm a drug
this implies that the cartel does have ties to this since they pretty much smuggle that and ppl across the border
and im psure the dlc maps have cartel dudes in them
along with the butterfly mark in the tunnel/cave system
and the lil eyes on the cave might be a metaphor to the constant reminder that we are being watched
From my understanding 4L1 is one of the chemical compounds that make up this drug
Or is the drug?
i'll look into it, 4L1 does sound rlly familiar
C24 H23 N7 thats the chemical make up
bibenzimidazole
Is what we been using for the name
Also the google doc has all the info so far
4L1 is the precursor
took a look at the trailer
doesn't seem to have anything interesting; just advertising the DLC
i have next week off and also have some of my salary leftover so i'll probably buy it on 23rd to play and look for any clues if they hid anything
most i can do for now
this is also unsubstantiated but i kinda feel the in-game CIA has some ties to this too
I am all set to playthrough the dlc, i will probably play with a friend through the levels see if i can find some clues
alrighty, gonna take a look over A4
oh no....
@autumn geyser apologies for the early morning ping the list of questions for Lily disappered
Aha! i remember them now! writing them in a notpad
@boreal kite Who is Officer 619? and Who is CHSN#8675-A?
dw about pings when I'm asleep, I never wake up because of a ping
Fair
the interloper and the innocent
they will never see the sky again
huh... interesting....
doc updated with responses at the very bottom in the messages section.
Interloper is 619, 8675 is innocent
Both dead presumably
8675 innocent meaning possibly civ?
that's what i am thinking
Both dead, both saw parts of the project that they should never have
Perhaps it was branded as some sort of different test and the leo arriving meant civ saw something they shouldnt have
theory: this Chosen saw what has happening or learned what was going to happen to them and managed to find away to contact the police they sent officer 619 to investagate and learned too much
causing them both to be killed
well, when a officer goes missing it generates a bigger response to the last known location
wasn't 100% sure where to put the responses, so i put in messages.
Possible
tho! that does clarify the message of "The end of the innocent and the interloper"
We might need to make some kinda "no branch" setup or something
Yep that it does
no branch setup meaning messages that dont relate directly to either branch
or to both at once
i can agree to that
their kinda the "hey we want to know more about this partiular piece of lore"
the 2nd part tho.... could POSSIBLE lead somewhere, but it does have a double edge meaning
docs been updated accordingly
Also man I love the convenience of the doc
Super happy with the fact that we did that
so do i
All the info in one, highly condensed, space
did we ever make a TL;DR?
Don't think so
i know we discussed it
I tried but can't find a way to do it right so I gave up
Yep
As I learned in programming, subtracting is so much infinitely harder than adding things
Wdym
uh, basicly i know Kam will be super busy dealing with DLC shanagins til release, I don't wanna keep poking and be like "hey asked X thing for Lily"
true
I'd say if kaminsky says he can handle it then we can continue, but it deffo might be nice to give him some free time to breathe
ok so they're dead as hell
Oh 100%
Yep
yeah, I've been thinking about that for a couple days now
I just don't know whether we're looking at the death of the innocent, or the intruder
I reckon 619
mission being that we tracked the location of the officer and we're going in to investigate
so y'all were right that of619 was the missing lspd officer, earlier I came to the conclusion that it was some sort of assigned ID for a member within whatever organization we're dealing with, turns out it must be the opposite
I think 619 is just his badge number
When we got that pic... Lily said... "CHSN DSGN. THREATENED"
Could that have double meaning?
@boreal kite What did you mean when you said "They know not what they threaten"?
@autumn geyser uh... inc
yo
The CHSN are r+etjcdsksyntaijhatdl
They are the +bsd
edkcyzjf
welp!
lol
i can now use it as a reaction image
Wonder if that's a vigenere or if it's merely randomized text
Yoo kaminsky btw what's your take on this
Yeah I'll put that through my thing with all sorts of random keys
I have my tutorial script, I can take a break once I'm done. :>
Ah okay nice
Yeah that doesn't seem vigenere
Unless it's the wrong word, that gives less vowels and more consonants
no
And less i/a/e, which are like the most frequent letters
it's az
Ah is it
a1z26 would give us numbers but we can work with numbers
- is weird tho
18;+;5;20;10;3;4;19;11;19;25;14;20;1;9;10;8;1;20;4;12
18+520103419111925142019108120412
- is deffo out of place ev en with nubmers cause the next one does not have a number before the plus
hmm
What if they just punched their keyboard or something
How do we know lilies eyes doesnt have terrible anger issues
Yeah gonna be honest I am beyond lost
i'm alittle lost but wanna keep trying lol
All I got is that it's not vigenere, not anything to do with a1z26, and that it's not a cipher that I can easily find
What I assume to be true:
- First word is 21 letters long, second one is 4, last one is 8. First word is likely comprised of two or more words, however.
- Cipher uses some sort of substitution
is it a scramble?
true
I honestly am just completely lost at this, someone way smarter has to look at that cause I've nothing
We're more lost than The Lost
XD

He solved it
Ok lol
🙃
Thought. Storm themes come up a lot in the current build. eg. those tunnels with the old rock paintings about a storm washing away evil.
Oh look, there's a hurricane. Everyone's flooded.
Wondering. Perhaps hurricane will accidentally reveal something the USIA doesn't want found, and eventually lead to a raid on USIA to 'wash away the evil'.
That is a possiblity
Sounds solid sort of. One of the maps is apparently named LAWMAKER according to the store page, and involves D-Platoon clearing that big mansion
Government consipricy!
it's an alternate reality game ARG
basicly someone will take imges modify them in some way and then will make clues on whats happening
Not only images. It's codes, puzzles, and cryptography that hide lore bits and information about the game world
yep!
There's a log of the current version of the ARG in the pinned messages if you want to catch up 
scratch this, i saw wrong
hold on gonna probe the other 2 ciphertexts
why are there 2 +s?
i have a feeling it's vigenere again ngl
ps
https://gchq.github.io/CyberChef/
came in handy when i played CTF matches
it's a decryption/decoding toolbox web app
maybe someone like boom can use it better than me
the +s are incredibly sus
does it mean the texts can be mashed together?
does it produce multiple results when separate and concatenated?
hm
lilies responded before the DLC came out
so i shouldn't need to play the DLC levels first to solve it
maybe
entropy value from cyberchef is 3.8
it's said that english text usually falls between 3.5 to 5
so it is english
this probably cancels out chatgpt's hypothesis that it's in a foreign language before being encrypted
yeah fuck
no good progress from me
i'll maybe try again tonight
I am trying my hand at the lilies eyes most recent messages
the ciphertext containing a "+" led me straight to a trifid cipher which relies on a 27 letter alphabet - the 27th letter could be a "+"
reading into the cipher now to see if it's potentially what we're working with
boxentriq analysis claims we haven't changed ciphering methods
ok
what's the keyword then
is it one of the three?
do we have to find another keyword?
we know for sure it isn't cryptii anymore
I severely doubt that is vigenere
May be but there's not one place for a plus
That's what's throwing me off
i have a feeling the + has another meaning rather than being part of the ciphertext ngl
Very likely yea
we can also try beaufort cipher like the screenshot said it could also be
the other guy also suggested bifid/trifid too
i'm trying the 3 ciphertexts against each other via vigenere
still all gibberish
it's either not working or it's part of a URL or file name
I'm still working on trifid but I'm not coming up with much
I doubt that its beaufort or vigenere
a few sites i've tried have it identifyed said it was double collum

can't wait for someone to kidnap a dev just to slve it
i'm here now
i just got home from work and made food
evening/morning all
and even i am struggling
yeah it is
What if we aren't meant to know
What if it'll be revealed later on
Or what if it's a gwynnstitution moment and we now have to make a brand new cipher purely for this arg again
that's honestly my worst fear that its a gwynnstituion
i mean thats possible
that aren't suppose know
from two sites that i been using to try identifying the first line
hmmm i tried doing binary that didn't do anything
I’ve tried most techniques I know and have not come up with anything
Yep
Encryption is not my strong suit though
I'm 99% sure it's either going to be some kind of substitution cipher/letter scramble or it's a cipher we haven't been made aware of yet in the form of it was just made
Original ciphers would be dropped with some sort of hint
Damn that's mildly unfortunate
Actually wait no
some is italics
Meaning there was a hint dropped
There are two sides of an arg:
- YOOO I FOUND SOMETHING LET'S GOOO
and - Yoo I found some- nevermind.
Well I guess there's also the hitting my head on the desk so I can maybe shake my last braincell enough to have it produce a potential solution
damn
so we're going the original cipher route now
i really have no idea what to do atp
i just know those +s have to mean something
i inserted bsd where the larger ciphertext has a + in
i concatenated the texts together
nothing
the +s are really throwing me off
i guess linas and presidente are right
this likely isn't vigenere anymore
no i 100% agree it isn't
i mean kam even came in to say there were hints as to an original cipher
if that's the case what's the ciphering mechanism? substitution? transposition?
a combo of both?
bro i'll kms if it's both
i would kill something...
I reckon it's substitution and the end result is multiple words
at least for the first one
Maybe
The CHSN are r+etjcdsksyntaijhatdl
They are the LOST
edkcyzjf
so far
standby
ok the first one is something else
cause the same method gets me INNPLOZEDRZCHWXZUOUCV
whatever that is
That's still progress I guess
bro.........
did he?
yeah but he got no results
oh shit he did....
@jovial raven friendo you were right on trifid for one part
wait
let me play around
ok what if
1st layer of 1st ciphertext is trifid since there's a +
then you use the 3rd ciphertext as a key for the 1st after decrypting the trifid
it may be vigenere again
idk i'm gonna try it
go for it
Tried viginere for part one with some keywords
try LOST as a keyword
using INNPLOZEDRZCHWXZUOUCV with key edkcyzjf produces EKDNNPQZZOPAJXOUQLKAX
nothing
thats what i got
using key LOST produces XZVWAAHLSDHJWIFGJACJK
Case insensitive
lost
Yeah that's post trifid
oh wow
r+etjcdsksyntaijhatdl in trifad got me this PUUWSVGLKYGJODEGBVBJC i put in the caesar and got INNPLOZEDRZCHWXZUOUCV
trifid decrypt, no key, group size 5
original r+etjcdsksyntaijhatdl
post trifid ptwvyahuamvyaolmbabyl
done in cryptii
with + as key it becomes rbdfgcqbcmxyjoiobidyl
🤔
huh?
what
find something?
ptwvyahuamvyaolmbabyl
shift 7 in caesar cipher
importantforthefuture
FUCK YES I DID SOMETHING
Ah
Niiice good job
The chosen are important for the future
they are the lost
Last one
okok last ciphertext
edkcyzjf
It's all caesar probably
i just bruteforced this using caesar
nothing
The CHSN are important for the future
They are the lost
edkcyzjf
8 letter word likely
FKKGPGKI trifad to caesar YDDZIZDB
same
interesting
LMAO

The coordinates apparently match
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Gives me old farm vibes lol idky
lol
But genuinely idk wtf they'd be doing in that building or the relevancy
It's not related
Oh 😦
:/ still not getting this last part
I am starting to think linas might be on the right track
cause i tried everything. and i got nothing
its unrelated
tho i doubt devs hid anything with french
boxcryptiq did say again that it's vigenere
we don't have a key tho
i honestly don't believe boxcryptiq anymore lol
lol
the 3 cipher identifier web apps i used say their results aren't reliable as edkcyzjf is only 8 letters and isn't much to go around
this is my results on one site
bro i do not understand the 2 square cipher at all
i have never heard of 2 square
I've heard of 4 Square and I used to slap the mcshit out of people in that game when I was a kid.
xD
two square its half the people and hitting each other back and forth
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Which pic are yall working on?
Where did it originate though