#🪹the-sepulchre-arg

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left bough
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image's moel is "THE SOUL"
and make is "THE LORD BELOW"

shrewd yarrow
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the key could also be PNI

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fkme

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1sec

left bough
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is "the lord below" as is, or do we need to figure out a single word that it means?

shrewd yarrow
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good question

shrewd yarrow
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at least thats what it looks like to me

left bough
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istill think it's PTO

shrewd yarrow
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its possible

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we can't rule it out

left bough
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that way the two 3 letter groups fit together

autumn geyser
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I think it's pth but idk

shrewd yarrow
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i say we have at least 4 possiblites

autumn geyser
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Ye

shrewd yarrow
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ptii, pto, pth, pni

left bough
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cryptii, crypto, crypth, crypni

topaz jackal
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oh wtf the arg reopened

shrewd yarrow
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it did

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if you wish to catch up

topaz jackal
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yup am reading it rn

wicked turret
autumn geyser
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Yeah it's potplayer

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I have it

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Kinda nice but rarely use it

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It's like the VLC of the modern-er era

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Nothing out of the ordinary

topaz jackal
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what are the current ciphers and files we're dealing with rn?
can see from backlog so far that we have the .bmp and the bellaso cipher thing?

autumn geyser
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ye

radiant sonnet
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fun

autumn geyser
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Indeed

topaz jackal
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what's the ciphertext again? sorry i'm kinda lost with the gdoc myself

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wait isn't bellaso just vigenere from the mechanics i'm seeing rn

autumn geyser
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Idek

left bough
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"UYMGMCZN.RR" i'd assume

autumn geyser
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I'll update the doc to match requirements for the bellaso cypher in a sec

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yeah

left bough
autumn geyser
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damn my mind is so fried that I can't even understand what ciphertext is, I genuinely thought that meant one of the keys

shrewd yarrow
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B2 is what were calling it

topaz jackal
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the only contribution i remember having was hard guessing a cipher that left people stuck for weeks in the original sepulchre arg lol
i'm not sure how i can be of help rn but i'll try smth with the cipher if i have time

left bough
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please do

shrewd yarrow
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this is what i did

topaz jackal
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i hope they didn't make it any harder this time ngl
i remember for the ultrakill arg someone had to write a python script to solve 1 of the puzzles lmfao

left bough
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desubstitution tool gives too many options

shrewd yarrow
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i tried both cry and crypt

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GCZUZYMR QQ this is what i got for Cry

left bough
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the last 2 letters after the dot are the same, which doesn't make much sense

shrewd yarrow
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and i got two results for crypt:
DOCXCMHR OO
DOCXCMHR TT

left bough
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having a dot there in teh fisrst place doesn't make much sense

topaz jackal
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yo uh
the video description on the dlc teaser
has anyone looked into it
probably nothing but it looked lowkey suspicious to me

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UUUS76 MLLX 2246 NMSMIX

autumn geyser
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Yeah no that's been confirmed unrelated

topaz jackal
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ah okok

autumn geyser
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I spent some time looking into it

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If you are curious, the doc has everything you really need to know afaik

shrewd yarrow
primal prawn
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so what is the context of the arg then

autumn geyser
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wdym

left bough
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the dot being there makes it seem like a filename

shrewd yarrow
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maybe?

autumn geyser
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Possible

left bough
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but what filetype uses two of the same letter?

primal prawn
shrewd yarrow
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that's what were figuring out lol

autumn geyser
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yea

left bough
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some secret organization keeping an eye on the police forces

shrewd yarrow
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so far

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i can't see any RR file types

autumn geyser
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So far the arg is 7 people become more and more schizophrenic and lose their minds over minute pixels on an image

topaz jackal
radiant sonnet
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embed fail

autumn geyser
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embed failure

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laugh at this user

wicked turret
radiant sonnet
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😔

left bough
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well there's one

autumn geyser
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yep

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Farbfeld image

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.ff

topaz jackal
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CC C++ language source
FF Farbfeld image
HH C++ header file

autumn geyser
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Damn

left bough
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damn

autumn geyser
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beat me to it

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That all of them, a-z?

topaz jackal
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LL LLVM Assembly Language

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nah still going

left bough
topaz jackal
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sorry

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hold on

autumn geyser
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Seems like C++

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Or coding languages in general

radiant sonnet
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im 95% sure kaminsky wont be having us look through source code yet

autumn geyser
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You never know

radiant sonnet
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

topaz jackal
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honestly
could very well be farbfeld since it's an image format
we may need to pull an ultrakill and code something in c++, in the worst case scenario

autumn geyser
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I mean he's making fun of us with this bloody bellaso cypher

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dear god not coding

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please

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I've had enough of that

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I don't wanna learn C++ for an ARG

shrewd yarrow
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oh god...

radiant sonnet
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were still in the tutorial keep in mind

autumn geyser
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if this is the tutorial

radiant sonnet
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so advanced techniques are not necessary

autumn geyser
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then lord save us for when the real thing starts

shrewd yarrow
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ikr

autumn geyser
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we gotta get 4chan in here

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only they can solve this

topaz jackal
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found more
XX XX-encoded file (ASCII)

radiant sonnet
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were just missing something, we have the clues

autumn geyser
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Oh I like that a lot

topaz jackal
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ok should be all

left bough
topaz jackal
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CC C++ language source
FF Farbfeld image
HH C++ header file
LL LLVM Assembly Language
XX XX-encoded file (ASCII)

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it's any of these 5

radiant sonnet
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its definitely not assembly

autumn geyser
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Okay so we got 3 coding, 1 image, and 1 text encoding

left bough
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yeah, probably drop the coding filetypes

radiant sonnet
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are we even sure its a file

left bough
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no

topaz jackal
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the . made us suspicious that it may be a file

left bough
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but it's a weird word

radiant sonnet
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it could be an abbreviation

autumn geyser
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dots also dont transfer over with the thing

radiant sonnet
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like most of the other messages

autumn geyser
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the bellaso cypher

left bough
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aye

radiant sonnet
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you know what would be funny

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if the bellaso clue was a red herring

autumn geyser
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i swear to god

topaz jackal
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why'd they pick such a complicated cipher if it's a dead end then

shrewd yarrow
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

autumn geyser
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To make us suffer

radiant sonnet
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can someone paste the cipher text here

autumn geyser
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UYMGMCZN.RR

topaz jackal
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you also need the alphabet and key btw

autumn geyser
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^

topaz jackal
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it's somewhere up there

left bough
topaz jackal
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someone also said it's either 20 letter italian alphabet or 26 letter english alphabet

left bough
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should probably write these in the doc

left bough
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since we're working in english

autumn geyser
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yea

radiant sonnet
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so its a vigenere cipher

topaz jackal
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with extra steps yes

autumn geyser
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not necessarily

autumn geyser
radiant sonnet
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the description makes it seems like hes talking about Bellaso, who made the vigenere cipher

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try using this maybe

topaz jackal
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maybe it's not the bellaso cipher then
it's just vigenere

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we may not need an alphabet

radiant sonnet
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thats what im thinking

topaz jackal
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just the text & a key

radiant sonnet
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its "Bellaso's" trick, not "the bellaso trick"

left bough
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well yeah, but the bellaso cipher is also made by some bellaso

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it would make sense if it wasn't that complicated

autumn geyser
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Perhaps it's not a filename extension but a url?

radiant sonnet
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use a cipher identifier

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bellaso cipher is not in the list

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most accurate is vigenere cipher

autumn geyser
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Yeah so it's viginere that's one thing

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Now to figure out the key

radiant sonnet
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the yek is in the soul

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yek obviously = key

autumn geyser
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ye

radiant sonnet
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but i think its backwards for a reason

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i wonder if its "the soul" or "in the soul" backwards

shrewd yarrow
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FFEYXJRF.CY PTII
FFYRTOKU.DC PTO
FFFRTVKU.KC PTH
FLERZUKA.JC PNI

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i was playing around with viginere

autumn geyser
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MLTZIKLT.GJ

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with in the soul

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Tempted to code a quick cli viginere decypherer if that's even possible

radiant sonnet
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not without a key

autumn geyser
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yeah ik

radiant sonnet
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you can try to bruteforce it

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but that will take a while

autumn geyser
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but like you put in the key and it immediately gives the result

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cause this website is a pain to use ngl

radiant sonnet
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oh

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yeah

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ive been using this

shrewd yarrow
autumn geyser
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god damn it i hate the filter so much

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I just got "Possible spam" after sending python code lmao

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though in fairness that is actually pretty valid

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A valid reason to flag a message, I mean

shrewd yarrow
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fair

autumn geyser
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At least now I can rapidly test stuff without load times

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I'm starting to think it's some sort of url

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Not a filename

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Though it could be a filename

radiant sonnet
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I think it’s just two words

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. = space

autumn geyser
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Ah maybe

left bough
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could be

autumn geyser
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Possible, will have to see when we actually decipher this thing

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Also wouldn't a bruteforce require manual verification

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So you'd have to basically manually read through millions upon millions upon millions upon millions of deciphered messages

left bough
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if it really is two words, then the second 2 letter word should be easy
if it wasn't only 2 letters

radiant sonnet
autumn geyser
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Ah yea valid

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I reckon it would be really funny if I learned how to work with api stuff and AI for the sole purpose of solving a READY OR NOT ARG

shrewd yarrow
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lol

radiant sonnet
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openAI API is actually pretty straightforward

autumn geyser
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Yeah probably

radiant sonnet
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theres a lot you can do with it, but to start with it not too complicated

autumn geyser
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And then we just use some tool to link our gpus together to perform an insane amount of computing

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And in 2-3 business years we might have a word that works

radiant sonnet
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ive been using auto-solve and ive come up with a few words but they dont really make sense

autumn geyser
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I think we need to actually find the right key first

radiant sonnet
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100%

shrewd yarrow
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only hint i can think of key is whats in image B2a

radiant sonnet
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holy fuck

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i got it

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you guys were right

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its a URL

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the problem is finding the second half

left bough
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second half?

radiant sonnet
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of the URL

left bough
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what's the first half?

radiant sonnet
shrewd yarrow
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omg it was ptii

left bough
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i have my doubts about that

radiant sonnet
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about what

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it fits perfectly

left bough
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well yeah

radiant sonnet
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so whats to doubt about it

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the problem is finding the 5 characters that come after shorturl.at/

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ive tried the image name hfuky but no results

shrewd yarrow
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shorturl@

radiant sonnet
shrewd yarrow
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ah ok

radiant sonnet
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and i tested shorting a url, it generates a 5-character string

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i was almost certain the 5-characters would be hfuky but no luck

left bough
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well hFUKY sure took me to a mediafire thing

radiant sonnet
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wut

shrewd yarrow
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aww

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i tried

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woops

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UYMGMCZN.RR

left bough
shrewd yarrow
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yo!

left bough
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i don't like the fiels in it tho

radiant sonnet
autumn geyser
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YO?

radiant sonnet
left bough
autumn geyser
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Lemme run it on a vm

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One sec

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Don't do anything

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Windows sandbox coming in handy

radiant sonnet
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i got it

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its clena

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clean

left bough
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oh?

autumn geyser
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Ah okay good

radiant sonnet
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so heres what it is!

autumn geyser
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Nice work

radiant sonnet
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another cipher.

autumn geyser
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GOD DAMN IT

shrewd yarrow
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VYC RHLM KJ GC MPM UKPJVBCTV MU E1

radiant sonnet
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VYC RHLM KJ GC MPM UKPJVBCTV MU E1

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and theres another acrhive

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protected by a password

autumn geyser
left bough
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seems that's the password for it then

radiant sonnet
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can some lovely gentleman update the google doc

left bough
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probably ask if that's even supposed to be it?

autumn geyser
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Will do

autumn geyser
radiant sonnet
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new cipher is a bifid cipher

left bough
autumn geyser
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what

left bough
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vigenette cipher gave that

autumn geyser
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wait in viginere?

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Interesting

shrewd yarrow
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THE CODE IS IN THE STRUCTURE OF L1

radiant sonnet
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holy fuck

autumn geyser
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oh

radiant sonnet
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4L1

autumn geyser
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chemistry time

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why

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we're on summer break

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come on kaminsky

radiant sonnet
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4L1 is the precursor

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the code is in the structure of L1

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fuck

shrewd yarrow
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LOL

left bough
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what code

radiant sonnet
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the password

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for the file

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is in the chemical structure

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of 4L1

left bough
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and what is "structure L1"?

shrewd yarrow
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i tried C24 H23 N7

radiant sonnet
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thats what linch and I found

shrewd yarrow
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^

radiant sonnet
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the chemical structure of 4L1

shrewd yarrow
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GOT IT

autumn geyser
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What was it

shrewd yarrow
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C24H23N7

autumn geyser
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[Begin log]

[USER OLEIFERA HAS LOGGED IN]
Oleifera: Why wasn't the site sterilzed before relocation? A gunfight with the local PD is the last thing we wanted.
Grjsii: Chrys relayed that GRNSD was clear for use
Oleifera: Why didn't anyone double check?
Gilbertii: I did, but Chrys gave me old intel and footage
Chrysantha: I followed SOP, there were no bodies within a k for a few days
Oleifera: Until there was.
Grjsii: 4L1 still kept them quiet
Oleifera: Now we have several pricipals in custody, one dead, and an LSPD officer in our safe house.
Oleifera: Euph, liase with our plants, calm the waters and bury the Hand at GRNSD.
Oleifera: Grj, Process Gil. If they're worth it, take them. If not, field them.
Oleifera: Gil, bring me Chrysantha.
[USER CHRYSANTHA HAS LOGGED OUT]

[End log]

left bough
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oh dear god

shrewd yarrow
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i would of had it before if i didn't have spaces!

autumn geyser
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Yeah valid

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So many codenames

radiant sonnet
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jesus christ

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so I was right

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4L1 is some sort of drug they are developin

shrewd yarrow
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FBBS

left bough
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"4L1 still kept them quiet"
oh boy

shrewd yarrow
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FBB

radiant sonnet
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that checks out with the message

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Camellia to Command
Chosen secured
Relay/Release to Greenside
Compound 4L1 administered

shrewd yarrow
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is 4L1 a chemical suppressent?

radiant sonnet
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4L1 is a precursor used for developing new drugs

shrewd yarrow
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a stim maybe?

radiant sonnet
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it is used from things such as cancer treatments all the way to ibuprofen and DNA strand tracking

shrewd yarrow
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right

radiant sonnet
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most commonly, it is used as a precursor for testing new pharmaceuticals

shrewd yarrow
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so maybe Gerad was on to something

radiant sonnet
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if it "keeps them quiet" i doubt its a stimulant

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most likely a roofie of some sort

left bough
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or some kinda memory wipe

shrewd yarrow
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some sort of mindcontrol?

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maybe

left bough
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mind control, memory wipe, paralyzant, lethal poison

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who knows

radiant sonnet
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@rigid sphinx you are good as fuck at storytelling bro this is like the plot to a crazy ass movie

shrewd yarrow
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dude my fucking hands are shaking

autumn geyser
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Fr, great storytelling

left bough
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aye

shrewd yarrow
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1000%

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gonna start analying this convo

radiant sonnet
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should we make a TL:DR so people can easily catch up

autumn geyser
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Yeah we should

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Just a very quick rundown of the lore so far

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Basically a timeline

shrewd yarrow
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[]LOCAL LEO INTERFERENCE”
“[]CHSN DSGN. THREATENED”
"Oleifera: Why wasn't the site sterilzed before relocation? A gunfight with the local PD" this matches

autumn geyser
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Hand is capitalized in the Hand

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Some kinda important thing ig

shrewd yarrow
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the hand

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from the night club and the hospital

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left over members

autumn geyser
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Possible

shrewd yarrow
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who probably went into hiding

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this looks like higher ranking members talking to each other

left bough
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Oleifera
Grjsii "Grj"
Gilbertii "Gil"
Chrysantha "Chrys"
and "Euph"

shrewd yarrow
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are these all plant names?

radiant sonnet
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Definitely MLO

autumn geyser
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Yep

radiant sonnet
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All flowers and plants

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We have a list of operatives now

shrewd yarrow
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yep

left bough
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what plant would "Euph" be?

radiant sonnet
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Euphorbias

shrewd yarrow
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good question

left bough
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and the planst Euph was told to liaise are probably the officers

shrewd yarrow
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this is like a fucking cult

autumn geyser
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Sure is

shrewd yarrow
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k is probably kliks

radiant sonnet
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More like a super secret intelligence agency but yeah

shrewd yarrow
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FBBS

left bough
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so uh
now what?

shrewd yarrow
autumn geyser
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yea ik

shrewd yarrow
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lol

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Kaminsky probably has the biggest smile going ear to ear right now

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this makes me wonder.... was officer:619 someone this group kidnapped

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and when Judge(us) hears about this were now on a manhunt for our man?

left bough
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that might've been the lspd officer

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that wasn't supposed to be there

shrewd yarrow
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that could be

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investigating reports of maybe from homeless

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like maybe they started with the homeless then a officer cameaknocking they took him

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or her

left bough
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i can't find a plant named "grjsii"

shrewd yarrow
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"Oleifera: Now we have several pricipals in custody, one dead, and an LSPD officer in our safe house." this matches

radiant sonnet
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That’s camellia

left bough
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nvm, now found it

radiant sonnet
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I’m pretty sure camellia is grijsii but not sure

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Could be two diff people

shrewd yarrow
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possible

left bough
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grjsii seems to be the one in the area, yeah

shrewd yarrow
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guys

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Camellia grijsii

left bough
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or oleifera is there and the other Gs just went through info

shrewd yarrow
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it's Camellia

radiant sonnet
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That’s my guess

left bough
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they're all camellias

radiant sonnet
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Interesting

shrewd yarrow
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or a form of it

wicked turret
left bough
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the "Euph" Oleifera mentioned might be Euphlebia

shrewd yarrow
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its possible

left bough
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since they're all acamellias that would be it

radiant sonnet
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Checks out

shrewd yarrow
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thats true

radiant sonnet
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I really hope the arg is official lore

shrewd yarrow
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so you guys know that moement of when your at the end of a horror game at the final boss and the boss is on it's last legs and your "ike..." come on! come on! so close!" and then you kill it after quite a few attempts and you get that feeling of triumph and the adrenlin leaves your body...

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that was me towards the end lol

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@rigid sphinx i apologize for the ping, have you guys as a team been updating the dlc page screenshots as the arg progressed?

left bough
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are we still in the tutorial?

shrewd yarrow
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cause i feel like the the screenshots have been changing as we went along and solved things

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omg!

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that's awesome!

autumn geyser
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at least i presume

rigid sphinx
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There will be a clear and notable divide, yes

shrewd yarrow
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ok kool

left bough
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o no

shrewd yarrow
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alrighty....

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@boreal kite "we have been seen" what does this mean?

boreal kite
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too many eyes rest on us
they must be closed

shrewd yarrow
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updating the doc

radiant sonnet
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that sure sounds like a clear and notable divide to me

left bough
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are we to wait until the waters have been calmed then?

shrewd yarrow
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probably

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doc has been updated

left bough
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or are we supposed to somehow find and remove cameras?

radiant sonnet
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i think lilies eyes is saying they are going to wait until the next clue is dropped

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either that or things are about to get harder

left bough
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well it seemed the thing went belly up and ended up in the news

radiant sonnet
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100%

left bough
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so i guess just gota wait since that's how the news things die down

shrewd yarrow
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mmhm

radiant sonnet
shrewd yarrow
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with time they will reveal more, right now the LS news is reporting on this

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doc updated

shrewd yarrow
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Whoa

sacred dawn
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Top cryptologist from around the globe are still trying to figure out when....

The dlc drops :/

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Also with that thing mentioning the hand you guys ever look in the jail cells? Notice whose missing from there?

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Gerard, Elaine, Eve, Qudamah

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Qadamah I think had some sort of relation with the USIA

shrewd yarrow
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in b4 when we fully figure out the arg it drops kappa

autumn geyser
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oh dear god

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my condolences ready or not players

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they're gonna be complaining for a while

shrewd yarrow
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ikr

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but were suffering for their sins, for they know not what they threaten kappa

sacred dawn
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:/

topaz jackal
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bro what
have the puzzles already been solved

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wtf

sacred dawn
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nahh its the achievments

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idk if it has some relevancy though to this

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Its a performance enhancing drug. But its spelled like its in tarkov instead of irl "meldonium"

topaz jackal
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bruh ain't no way
the vigenere cipher is already decoded

sacred dawn
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oh idk I just looked at achievments

topaz jackal
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okok so the achievements are currently our next puzzle?

sacred dawn
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no

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I dont think it has some relevancy to this whole thing but it might

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Just weird to put that there you know?

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Since we're on the topic of drugs and super soldier swat :/

topaz jackal
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code is in structure of 4l1

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so we have to look at the chemical structure of the compound thingy

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weird tho
when i google it, results don't have the "bi-" prefix

sacred dawn
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yeah idk probably is nothing

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Maybe

topaz jackal
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dude i haven't touched chemistry as a school subject in 4 years
i don't know what i'm doing

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my field of study is cybersecurity dawg i should've stayed up to help with the cipher gura_uoh

#

pulled 2 diagrams labelled as the mentioned compound from researchgate
no idea how you can extract a code from this

rigid sphinx
#

Oh no

#

If you're cybersec and interested in the ARG

#

I may need to call in the big guns

autumn geyser
#

please dont

#

I'm already feeling absolutely useless

sacred dawn
#

SAME

topaz jackal
#

wait no no no no dude i'm a junior
i barely know nmap

rigid sphinx
autumn geyser
#

I don't wanna feel like the dude standing on the side watching as everyone else does literally everything else

topaz jackal
autumn geyser
#

That was linch

#

I did not contribute at all lmao

rigid sphinx
#

Honestly, feeling useless is normal in an ARG. That just means you have room to learn skills that can help or otherwise help interpret data points

#

Always remember

#

Experts have a bias

#

You don't

sacred dawn
#

I'm still mad I woke up and got teased :/

#

I rushed to that steam page so fucking fast

autumn geyser
#

I guess

#

But at the same time what's the point of no bias when you have no knowledge that the bias can't form on

topaz jackal
#

wait oh my god

#

the chemical puzzle was also already solved

autumn geyser
#

Yea

topaz jackal
#

ok i guess we got nth to work on atm

autumn geyser
#

We do sorta

#

A4

#

B2 solved, now waiting time, A4 is still unsolved

topaz jackal
#

i mean the active puzzles i was aware of was the EAS screenshot, the vigenere cipher, and the chemical puzzle

autumn geyser
#

Check the doc for info then

topaz jackal
#

oh A4
there was a thought at the back of my head when i viewed it but i dismissed it as wild assumption

#

because there's that yellow icon on the taskbar

#

idk what app that is

#

i have a feeling the taskbar apps may be what we need to progress in A4

autumn geyser
#

Yellow icon is potplayer

#

Common media player, kinda like the vlc of the modern-er world

topaz jackal
#

by any chance have we tried steganography

#

again another wild guess but there may be smth hidden in the photos

autumn geyser
#

A2 did

topaz jackal
#

no wonder A1 and A2 have abnormally large sizes

#

ok
don't think anything can be hidden and have the file be 190kb simultaneously

#

ok now i'm stumped with A4 screenshot
maybe there's a lead by looking into the filename of the .jpg image and the chrome URL

#

or maybe not

#

ok
probed URL, lsnnews.com doesn't exist as a domain, devs didn't do it like PAYDAY devs did

#

yeah now i'm genuinely stumped
maybe lilies was implying we gotta wait for further content to be released

#

gonna go get mcdonald's now
am done here for now lol

eager atlas
# sacred dawn

It probably isn't, but I can't help but think that is Judge with the laser eye meme

shrewd yarrow
#

@topaz jackal check the doc

shrewd yarrow
#

nvm just recaught up

#

yeah atm if we had any focus it would be A4

#

i asked @boreal kite about what their phrasing ment, i got a response were just in cooldown til the right time

shrewd yarrow
autumn geyser
#

I did some more thinking and I feel like we're currently on good pace and just have to wait

#

Cause Branch A is on hold cause all the eyes are on the mlo and they wanna keep it quiet for now, branch B might be a more long term one that requires longer gaps inbetween stuff

shrewd yarrow
#

i 100% agree with you

#

i also believe we are on a good pace

autumn geyser
#

Yep

#

Now let's quickly flood this chat with random garbage to hide these messages so Kaminsky doesn't read them and think to make the arg infinitely harder

shrewd yarrow
#

LMAO

#

well first off good morning to you

autumn geyser
#

gm, been awake for around 8 hours already lmao

shrewd yarrow
#

ah gotcha

autumn geyser
#

Bit unusual for my timezone cause I was up since 2 but stuff happens

shrewd yarrow
#

after we finished up i ended up taking like a 5.5-6hr nap lol

autumn geyser
#

Damn

shrewd yarrow
#

its been pretty normal for that to happen

#

since i came more invalded in the ARG

#

100% worth

autumn geyser
#

Btw been thinking that we should use more codes for the outline of the google doc

#

For instance, put an S before an image's name to mark it as solved or NS for not solved

#

So that when you're quickly glossing through, you don't need to read about the images themselves, you can just go direct to the unsolved one

shrewd yarrow
#

I am down for that

#

i just thought of several questions we could ask Lily

autumn geyser
#

List

shrewd yarrow
#

"who is Officer 619"
"Who is CHSN 8675-A"

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are two

autumn geyser
#

Wanna test the theory on whether or not it would work?

shrewd yarrow
#

sure

#

@boreal kite who is Officer 619 and Who is CHSN 8675-A

autumn geyser
#

also holy shit we were almost right on that layout

#

not entirely right but pretty close

shrewd yarrow
#

oh 100%

#

its like abit further to the left

#

and facing the wall

autumn geyser
#

Yea the bearcat is a bit off from where I put it but pretty good

shrewd yarrow
#

its was really close

#

be funny if these questions took us down another rabbit hole

autumn geyser
#

That'd be fun

shrewd yarrow
#

agreed

autumn geyser
#

I'd love to see the arg go down a more interactive path

shrewd yarrow
#

that would be fun!

#

also did you notice the ARG photo on the dlc page?

autumn geyser
#

Nice

rigid sphinx
#

:>
Just didn't want the convos to hide stuff now that general and ron have slowed down

shrewd yarrow
#

apologies for the random convo just felt safer here then general lol

autumn geyser
#

Yeah fair, btw just out of curiosity, does that purge also log the deleted messages or just purely purge them? Cause if it just purges them, then dyno's got a useful purge after command

rigid sphinx
#

Naw, that's fair

rigid sphinx
#

but we'd rather have it that way

autumn geyser
#

Ah okay makes sense

#

Yeah that's good, dyno doesn't

shrewd yarrow
#

also cough check Lilies cough

#

sorry

#

bad cough

autumn geyser
#

Also damn yeah lilies eyes really doesn't wanna talk do they

shrewd yarrow
#

no, must really be in hiding

autumn geyser
#

I guess they took this whole silence thing quite severely

#

0 comms

sacred dawn
#

This might help for going back to other levels and recheck dates

#

If that's coming with the update I hope...

topaz jackal
#

so are we gonna hold off until lilies says something again

#

i mean given the gameplay trailer is out
there may be smth inside

amber holly
#

what do we have so far?

#

talk about chemicals from a possible paramilitary? orr

shrewd yarrow
#

Thats what i am waiting on since i did ask the questions. I do suggest others start anayzling things that we may have missed or overlooked. And i will update the doc as needed when i gey a response

#

Basicly some group is using a drug to keep control of people

amber holly
#

this implies that the cartel does have ties to this since they pretty much smuggle that and ppl across the border

#

and im psure the dlc maps have cartel dudes in them

#

along with the butterfly mark in the tunnel/cave system

#

and the lil eyes on the cave might be a metaphor to the constant reminder that we are being watched

shrewd yarrow
#

From my understanding 4L1 is one of the chemical compounds that make up this drug

#

Or is the drug?

amber holly
#

i'll look into it, 4L1 does sound rlly familiar

shrewd yarrow
#

C24 H23 N7 thats the chemical make up

#

bibenzimidazole

#

Is what we been using for the name

#

Also the google doc has all the info so far

radiant sonnet
#

4L1 is the precursor

shrewd yarrow
#

That!

#

Ty Boom for the correction!

topaz jackal
#

took a look at the trailer
doesn't seem to have anything interesting; just advertising the DLC

#

i have next week off and also have some of my salary leftover so i'll probably buy it on 23rd to play and look for any clues if they hid anything
most i can do for now

#

this is also unsubstantiated but i kinda feel the in-game CIA has some ties to this too

shrewd yarrow
#

I am all set to playthrough the dlc, i will probably play with a friend through the levels see if i can find some clues

shrewd yarrow
#

alrighty, gonna take a look over A4

#

oh no....

#

@autumn geyser apologies for the early morning ping the list of questions for Lily disappered

#

Aha! i remember them now! writing them in a notpad

shrewd yarrow
#

@boreal kite Who is Officer 619? and Who is CHSN#8675-A?

autumn geyser
shrewd yarrow
#

ok

#

i just would feel bad if i end up waking you up

autumn geyser
#

Fair

boreal kite
shrewd yarrow
#

huh... interesting....

#

doc updated with responses at the very bottom in the messages section.

autumn geyser
#

Interloper is 619, 8675 is innocent

#

Both dead presumably

#

8675 innocent meaning possibly civ?

shrewd yarrow
#

that's what i am thinking

autumn geyser
#

Both dead, both saw parts of the project that they should never have

#

Perhaps it was branded as some sort of different test and the leo arriving meant civ saw something they shouldnt have

shrewd yarrow
#

theory: this Chosen saw what has happening or learned what was going to happen to them and managed to find away to contact the police they sent officer 619 to investagate and learned too much

#

causing them both to be killed

#

well, when a officer goes missing it generates a bigger response to the last known location

#

wasn't 100% sure where to put the responses, so i put in messages.

autumn geyser
#

Possible

shrewd yarrow
#

tho! that does clarify the message of "The end of the innocent and the interloper"

autumn geyser
autumn geyser
#

no branch setup meaning messages that dont relate directly to either branch

#

or to both at once

shrewd yarrow
#

i can agree to that

#

their kinda the "hey we want to know more about this partiular piece of lore"

#

the 2nd part tho.... could POSSIBLE lead somewhere, but it does have a double edge meaning

#

docs been updated accordingly

autumn geyser
#

Also man I love the convenience of the doc

#

Super happy with the fact that we did that

shrewd yarrow
#

so do i

autumn geyser
#

All the info in one, highly condensed, space

shrewd yarrow
#

did we ever make a TL;DR?

autumn geyser
#

Don't think so

shrewd yarrow
#

i know we discussed it

autumn geyser
#

I tried but can't find a way to do it right so I gave up

shrewd yarrow
#

fair enough

#

i'm not quite sure how to do one either lol

autumn geyser
#

Yep

#

As I learned in programming, subtracting is so much infinitely harder than adding things

shrewd yarrow
#

oh 100%

#

you think we should put somewhere on tactical pause til DLC settles?

autumn geyser
#

Wdym

shrewd yarrow
#

uh, basicly i know Kam will be super busy dealing with DLC shanagins til release, I don't wanna keep poking and be like "hey asked X thing for Lily"

autumn geyser
#

Ah

#

Maybe, I mean DLC is just around the corner

shrewd yarrow
#

true

autumn geyser
#

I'd say if kaminsky says he can handle it then we can continue, but it deffo might be nice to give him some free time to breathe

shrewd yarrow
#

agreed

#

that's my thought

dry gale
shrewd yarrow
#

Oh 100%

autumn geyser
#

Yep

shrewd yarrow
#

Wait 1min

#

Do you guyd think...

#

What i am thinking.

dry gale
#

yeah, I've been thinking about that for a couple days now

#

I just don't know whether we're looking at the death of the innocent, or the intruder

autumn geyser
#

I reckon 619

#

mission being that we tracked the location of the officer and we're going in to investigate

dry gale
#

so y'all were right that of619 was the missing lspd officer, earlier I came to the conclusion that it was some sort of assigned ID for a member within whatever organization we're dealing with, turns out it must be the opposite

autumn geyser
#

I think 619 is just his badge number

shrewd yarrow
#

When we got that pic... Lily said... "CHSN DSGN. THREATENED"

#

Could that have double meaning?

#

@boreal kite What did you mean when you said "They know not what they threaten"?

#

@autumn geyser uh... inc

autumn geyser
#

yo

boreal kite
#

The CHSN are r+etjcdsksyntaijhatdl
They are the +bsd
edkcyzjf

autumn geyser
#

more cipher stuff

#

yoo

shrewd yarrow
#

welp!

autumn geyser
#

got it

#

lets goo

shrewd yarrow
#

lol

autumn geyser
#

i can now use it as a reaction image

shrewd yarrow
#

LOL

#

love it

autumn geyser
#

Wonder if that's a vigenere or if it's merely randomized text

shrewd yarrow
#

LMFAO

#

try Vig

autumn geyser
#

Yeah I'll put that through my thing with all sorts of random keys

rigid sphinx
#

I have my tutorial script, I can take a break once I'm done. :>

autumn geyser
#

Ah okay nice

shrewd yarrow
#

ok

#

operation back then

autumn geyser
#

Yeah that doesn't seem vigenere

shrewd yarrow
#

hmm

#

a1z26?

autumn geyser
#

Unless it's the wrong word, that gives less vowels and more consonants

shrewd yarrow
#

no

autumn geyser
#

And less i/a/e, which are like the most frequent letters

shrewd yarrow
#

it's az

autumn geyser
#

Ah is it

shrewd yarrow
#

wait

#

maybe?

autumn geyser
#

a1z26 would give us numbers but we can work with numbers

#
  • is weird tho
#

18;+;5;20;10;3;4;19;11;19;25;14;20;1;9;10;8;1;20;4;12

#

18+520103419111925142019108120412

#
  • is deffo out of place ev en with nubmers cause the next one does not have a number before the plus
shrewd yarrow
#

hmm

#

doc updated accordingly

autumn geyser
#

This is very confusing

#

No cipher I've looked at matches

shrewd yarrow
#

hmm

autumn geyser
#

What if they just punched their keyboard or something

#

How do we know lilies eyes doesnt have terrible anger issues

shrewd yarrow
#

lol

#

who knows

autumn geyser
#

Yeah gonna be honest I am beyond lost

shrewd yarrow
#

i'm alittle lost but wanna keep trying lol

autumn geyser
#

All I got is that it's not vigenere, not anything to do with a1z26, and that it's not a cipher that I can easily find
What I assume to be true:

  • First word is 21 letters long, second one is 4, last one is 8. First word is likely comprised of two or more words, however.
  • Cipher uses some sort of substitution
shrewd yarrow
#

is it a scramble?

autumn geyser
#

Unlikely based on the letter frequency

#

Plus where does + go

shrewd yarrow
#

true

autumn geyser
#

I honestly am just completely lost at this, someone way smarter has to look at that cause I've nothing

shrewd yarrow
#

i mean i am at lost myself

#

i will be honest

#

i was NOT expecting that

autumn geyser
#

We're more lost than The Lost

shrewd yarrow
#

XD

shrewd yarrow
#

updated A3 for now

#

brain not fuctioning lol

feral bolt
rigid sphinx
radiant sonnet
#

He solved it

shrewd yarrow
#

Coworker of mime be trolling us

feral bolt
#

im actually working on it

#

dont worry

shrewd yarrow
#

Ok lol

feral bolt
#

🙃

tame tartan
#

Thought. Storm themes come up a lot in the current build. eg. those tunnels with the old rock paintings about a storm washing away evil.
Oh look, there's a hurricane. Everyone's flooded.
Wondering. Perhaps hurricane will accidentally reveal something the USIA doesn't want found, and eventually lead to a raid on USIA to 'wash away the evil'.

shrewd yarrow
#

That is a possiblity

quaint granite
shrewd yarrow
#

Government consipricy!

kind carbon
#

So like

#

What is this place

shrewd yarrow
#

it's an alternate reality game ARG

#

basicly someone will take imges modify them in some way and then will make clues on whats happening

rigid sphinx
#

Not only images. It's codes, puzzles, and cryptography that hide lore bits and information about the game world

shrewd yarrow
#

yep!

rigid sphinx
#

There's a log of the current version of the ARG in the pinned messages if you want to catch up smidogif

topaz jackal
#

scratch this, i saw wrong

#

hold on gonna probe the other 2 ciphertexts

#

why are there 2 +s?

#

i have a feeling it's vigenere again ngl

#

maybe someone like boom can use it better than me

topaz jackal
#

the +s are incredibly sus
does it mean the texts can be mashed together?
does it produce multiple results when separate and concatenated?

#

hm
lilies responded before the DLC came out
so i shouldn't need to play the DLC levels first to solve it

#

maybe

#

entropy value from cyberchef is 3.8
it's said that english text usually falls between 3.5 to 5
so it is english
this probably cancels out chatgpt's hypothesis that it's in a foreign language before being encrypted

#

yeah fuck
no good progress from me
i'll maybe try again tonight

jovial raven
#

I am trying my hand at the lilies eyes most recent messages

#

the ciphertext containing a "+" led me straight to a trifid cipher which relies on a 27 letter alphabet - the 27th letter could be a "+"

#

reading into the cipher now to see if it's potentially what we're working with

topaz jackal
#

boxentriq analysis claims we haven't changed ciphering methods

#

ok
what's the keyword then
is it one of the three?
do we have to find another keyword?

#

we know for sure it isn't cryptii anymore

autumn geyser
#

I severely doubt that is vigenere

#

May be but there's not one place for a plus

#

That's what's throwing me off

topaz jackal
#

i have a feeling the + has another meaning rather than being part of the ciphertext ngl

autumn geyser
#

Very likely yea

topaz jackal
#

we can also try beaufort cipher like the screenshot said it could also be

#

the other guy also suggested bifid/trifid too

#

i'm trying the 3 ciphertexts against each other via vigenere
still all gibberish
it's either not working or it's part of a URL or file name

jovial raven
#

I'm still working on trifid but I'm not coming up with much

jovial raven
#

I doubt that its beaufort or vigenere

crude tiger
#

its probably @fading birch

#

not sure though

shrewd yarrow
#

a few sites i've tried have it identifyed said it was double collum

topaz jackal
#

bro

#

where's the people who cracked the previous cipher

#

this shit ain't budging

autumn geyser
#

Yeah this cipher is way harder

#

There's no key for it

sacred dawn
twilit sky
shrewd yarrow
#

i'm here now

#

i just got home from work and made food

#

evening/morning all

#

and even i am struggling

autumn geyser
#

Fair

#

It's a mess this new cipher

shrewd yarrow
#

yeah it is

autumn geyser
#

What if we aren't meant to know

#

What if it'll be revealed later on

#

Or what if it's a gwynnstitution moment and we now have to make a brand new cipher purely for this arg again

shrewd yarrow
#

that's honestly my worst fear that its a gwynnstituion

#

i mean thats possible

#

that aren't suppose know

#

from two sites that i been using to try identifying the first line

shrewd yarrow
#

hmmm i tried doing binary that didn't do anything

radiant sonnet
#

I’ve tried most techniques I know and have not come up with anything

autumn geyser
#

Yep

radiant sonnet
#

Encryption is not my strong suit though

autumn geyser
#

I'm 99% sure it's either going to be some kind of substitution cipher/letter scramble or it's a cipher we haven't been made aware of yet in the form of it was just made

rigid sphinx
#

Original ciphers would be dropped with some sort of hint

shrewd yarrow
#

so it's something we haven't used yet :/

#

🤔

autumn geyser
#

Damn that's mildly unfortunate

#

Actually wait no

#

some is italics

#

Meaning there was a hint dropped

shrewd yarrow
#

CHSN

#

wait idea

#

nvm lol

autumn geyser
#

Damn

#

I felt that

shrewd yarrow
#

xD

#

my thought was weather to ask Lily for an hint even a small one

#

lol

autumn geyser
#

There are two sides of an arg:

  • YOOO I FOUND SOMETHING LET'S GOOO
    and
  • Yoo I found some- nevermind.
shrewd yarrow
#

lol

#

pretty much

autumn geyser
#

Well I guess there's also the hitting my head on the desk so I can maybe shake my last braincell enough to have it produce a potential solution

shrewd yarrow
#

lmao

#

i feel that

topaz jackal
#

damn
so we're going the original cipher route now

#

i really have no idea what to do atp
i just know those +s have to mean something

#

i inserted bsd where the larger ciphertext has a + in
i concatenated the texts together
nothing

shrewd yarrow
#

the +s are really throwing me off

topaz jackal
#

i guess linas and presidente are right
this likely isn't vigenere anymore

shrewd yarrow
#

no i 100% agree it isn't

topaz jackal
#

i mean kam even came in to say there were hints as to an original cipher

#

if that's the case what's the ciphering mechanism? substitution? transposition?

shrewd yarrow
#

a combo of both?

topaz jackal
#

bro i'll kms if it's both

shrewd yarrow
#

i would kill something...

autumn geyser
#

I reckon it's substitution and the end result is multiple words

#

at least for the first one

shrewd yarrow
#

that's highly probabal

#

i think?

#

is this a trifid?

autumn geyser
#

Maybe

shrewd yarrow
#

whoa!

#

so i did this

#

then i did.... this

autumn geyser
#

Holy shit okay nice

#

Now reverse that

#

We go trifid to caesar

shrewd yarrow
#

The CHSN are r+etjcdsksyntaijhatdl
They are the LOST
edkcyzjf

#

so far

#

standby

#

ok the first one is something else

#

cause the same method gets me INNPLOZEDRZCHWXZUOUCV

#

whatever that is

autumn geyser
#

That's still progress I guess

shrewd yarrow
#

that is

#

updated the doc

topaz jackal
#

bro.........

shrewd yarrow
#

lol

#

combo ciphers now

topaz jackal
#

should've listened to presidente

#

fuck

#

he correctly ID'd it as trifid

shrewd yarrow
#

did he?

topaz jackal
#

yeah but he got no results

shrewd yarrow
#

oh shit he did....

#

@jovial raven friendo you were right on trifid for one part

#

wait

#

let me play around

topaz jackal
#

ok what if

#

1st layer of 1st ciphertext is trifid since there's a +

#

then you use the 3rd ciphertext as a key for the 1st after decrypting the trifid

#

it may be vigenere again

#

idk i'm gonna try it

shrewd yarrow
#

go for it

autumn geyser
#

Tried viginere for part one with some keywords

shrewd yarrow
#

try LOST as a keyword

topaz jackal
#

using INNPLOZEDRZCHWXZUOUCV with key edkcyzjf produces EKDNNPQZZOPAJXOUQLKAX

#

nothing

shrewd yarrow
#

thats what i got

topaz jackal
#

using key LOST produces XZVWAAHLSDHJWIFGJACJK

autumn geyser
shrewd yarrow
#

lost

autumn geyser
#

Wait is it

#

PUUWSVGLKYGJODEGBVBJC is my plaintext for vigenere, what's yours

shrewd yarrow
#

hang on

#

for trifad same

autumn geyser
#

Yeah that's post trifid

shrewd yarrow
#

oh wow

#

r+etjcdsksyntaijhatdl in trifad got me this PUUWSVGLKYGJODEGBVBJC i put in the caesar and got INNPLOZEDRZCHWXZUOUCV

topaz jackal
#

trifid decrypt, no key, group size 5
original r+etjcdsksyntaijhatdl
post trifid ptwvyahuamvyaolmbabyl

#

done in cryptii

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with + as key it becomes rbdfgcqbcmxyjoiobidyl

shrewd yarrow
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🤔

topaz jackal
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HOH

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OHHHHH

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OHOHOHOHOH

shrewd yarrow
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huh?

autumn geyser
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what

shrewd yarrow
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find something?

topaz jackal
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ptwvyahuamvyaolmbabyl
shift 7 in caesar cipher
importantforthefuture

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FUCK YES I DID SOMETHING

autumn geyser
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Ah

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Niiice good job

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The chosen are important for the future
they are the lost

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Last one

topaz jackal
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okok last ciphertext
edkcyzjf

autumn geyser
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It's all caesar probably

topaz jackal
shrewd yarrow
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The CHSN are important for the future
They are the lost
edkcyzjf

autumn geyser
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8 letter word likely

shrewd yarrow
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FKKGPGKI trifad to caesar YDDZIZDB

autumn geyser
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guys i solved it

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the lost are in this house

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right here

shrewd yarrow
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😮

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some run down building

autumn geyser
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ikr

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that's their HQ

shrewd yarrow
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LOL

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wait.... run down buildings....

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park homes?

topaz jackal
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oh
it's a geohash?

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never heard of that

shrewd yarrow
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same

topaz jackal
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interesting

autumn geyser
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Nah it's not

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I'm just messing around and found this random building lmao

shrewd yarrow
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LMAO

topaz jackal
autumn geyser
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The coordinates apparently match

shrewd yarrow
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sacred dawn
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Gives me old farm vibes lol idky

shrewd yarrow
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lol

sacred dawn
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But genuinely idk wtf they'd be doing in that building or the relevancy

autumn geyser
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It's not related

sacred dawn
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Oh 😦

shrewd yarrow
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:/ still not getting this last part

shrewd yarrow
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I am starting to think linas might be on the right track

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cause i tried everything. and i got nothing

topaz jackal
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random rundown house in senegal

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errrr

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maybe there's something with its name

autumn geyser
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its unrelated

topaz jackal
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tho i doubt devs hid anything with french

autumn geyser
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in every single way

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it's just pure coincidence

topaz jackal
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boxcryptiq did say again that it's vigenere
we don't have a key tho

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i honestly don't believe boxcryptiq anymore lol

shrewd yarrow
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lol

autumn geyser
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I mean it might be vigenere

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But that'd mean a key so yea

topaz jackal
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the 3 cipher identifier web apps i used say their results aren't reliable as edkcyzjf is only 8 letters and isn't much to go around

shrewd yarrow
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this is my results on one site

topaz jackal
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bro i do not understand the 2 square cipher at all

shrewd yarrow
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i have never heard of 2 square

sacred dawn
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I've heard of 4 Square and I used to slap the mcshit out of people in that game when I was a kid.

shrewd yarrow
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xD

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two square its half the people and hitting each other back and forth

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sacred dawn
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Which pic are yall working on?

topaz jackal
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nah we're cracking 3 ciphertexts

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edkcyzjf is the last one

sacred dawn
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Where did it originate though