💬general-discussion

[viral badger]

I wish I could say the same about mine

[tropic nebula]

So is sphagetti, until it begins playing milsim games.

[tropic nebula]

It's fine, as long as you.. Don't say it.. In Russia.

[viral badger]

Oh yeah, you play a few hours of arma and you instantly become transgender or a facist, no inbetween

[tropic nebula]

Just don't, it's literally forbidden by the government.

[viral badger]

It’s a shame

[tropic nebula]

There's way too many patterns to it to elaborate, like think of every term that is restricted on twitch and apply it - you get an Arma3 player.

[viral badger]

Hey, I’m an arma player!

I’m probably only a few of those…

[viral badger]

@plucky dirge what’s up bitch

[uneven cobalt]

Dude it's cool that you can change it in your country

[viral badger]

Vaseek knows much more about being gay you can ask him

He’s super gay

[uneven cobalt]

I will if he don't touch me middle of the conversation

[viral badger]

Oh no he won’t don’t worry

[tropic nebula]

You can keep it, just don't show it.

[viral badger]

I am of the opinion it should be shown, there’s nothing wrong with having pride in who you are m, and wanting to display that pride proudly

[tropic nebula]

Not me who made these rules, really.

I have nothing against you, just your government - that was a quote I heard from people when they tried to reason their hatred towards something specific.

[worn vessel]

I think i shouldnt be on discord rn lol

[pliant briar]

that explains his profession

[tropic nebula]

Take a break.

[worn vessel]

I might have had a bit too much rum lol

[tropic nebula]

Don't risk it with a timeout, a strike or a warning for being loose.

You can do wonderful shit when drunk or sleep deprived.

[worn vessel]

Im trying my best moi drug🫡

Il try my best, sleep deprived is the worst

[agile wasp]

Meow

[worn vessel]

Uwu

[ebon geyser]

Brodie is living the life ong

[runic aspen]

is this game ever gonna get optimized????

[worn vessel]

What are your specs?

[runic aspen]

rx 6600, r5 5600x, 32 gb ram 3600

[worn vessel]

Uh i dont know amd gpus well but it says its equivalent of an rtx 2060

[runic aspen]

i used to run the game good but now its so bad

[rigid bone]

Your game should be running perfectly fine. That's strange.
What boot option are the using and are you using any mods?

[runic aspen]

no mods, dx 12

[rigid bone]

You should be running DX11

[glacial jungle]

i just dont undrstand why bombing void go to bomb sony and microsoft for cenzored there is problem

[rigid bone]

Esp' with a 6600

[worn vessel]

Lord kaminsky

[nimble ruin]

6 more days :D

[rigid bone]

What happens in 6 days?

[runic aspen]

the reason why I'm running 12 is because its better for me in most of the games

[nimble ruin]

RoN releases on console on July 11th, right?

[rigid bone]

July 15th

[worn vessel]

July 15

[nimble ruin]

[rigid bone]

[little hawk]

10 more days

[rigid bone]

It's ok friend

[idle frigate]

You get a raise?

[nimble ruin]

10 more days :D

[rigid bone]

A raise would be nice, but I'm already paid pretty well

[nimble ruin]

Aw man im scheduled to work that day

[worn vessel]

Everytime amazon support is helpful and i fill out the review form under additional notes i add "raise this guys pay"

[lilac vale]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

Kam

[nimble ruin]

I'll play the shit outta RoN, then my fixation will be Helldivers 2 in late August when that releases on xbox

[lilac vale]

With your gun habit

Aint no way yiu get paid enough

[rigid bone]

That's a me problem, not a VOID problem though

[lilac vale]

Stop lying boss

You need more money for more gun attachments

[idle frigate]

Yeah so its true it's coming to Xbox

[lilac vale]

Not saying its a bad thing Kam just funny

[worn vessel]

Kam are you gonna be playing the console versions too or are you solely on pc

[rigid bone]

Entirely a PC gamer

[whole garden]

Hey everyone, just got the game. Should I start with "new game" before finding lobbies?

[rigid bone]

Well, partially a lie

I play a few games on my phone

[lilac vale]

Raid shadow legends and temple run

[rigid bone]

If you're new-new I'd reccomend finding some people in #🔎looking-for-players since you're here anyway. :>

[brisk yoke]

gaming

[nimble ruin]

Yea, ive already preordered it. Preordered RoN and HD2 Thursday morning, now I just wait

[shrewd rain]

are you guys really censoring the game? like the recent reviews are saying

[lilac vale]

Hunter brainwashed Kam to try Raid shadow legends

[worn vessel]

Read pins

[rigid bone]

☝️

What he said

Beat me to it

[shrewd rain]

pins?

[rigid bone]

Naw, Balatro and Gundam Eternal

[rigid bone]

At the top of the screen

the pinned messages

[lilac vale]

Never heard of it

[shrewd rain]

oh right

[pliant briar]

bro is ancient

[nimble ruin]

Ive been getting back into clash Royale and clash of clans

[worn vessel]

There is only one game i play on my tablet

[idle frigate]

?

[lilac vale]

Kam deffo the man who has sudoko game or some like relaxinf game

[worn vessel]

Idle angles lol it might look like an almost nsfw cheap game but the gameplay mechanics are actually good for an idle gacha

[pliant briar]

mobile games when you don't spend your entire savings on microtransactions:

[idle frigate]

Nah

[lilac vale]

What you dont go into debt playing mobile games?

Part of the player experience

[runic aspen]

is ron gonna get controller support?

[lilac vale]

Gotta support the dev

[idle frigate]

Never bought anything on mobile games

[pliant briar]

already does

[lilac vale]

It already does

[runic aspen]

oh wow i didnt know that lol

[lilac vale]

Full support since like dark waters release

[worn vessel]

Console versions need ratings bc regulations, console versions means a more accessible game . More accessible game means more sale and money for the devs means more updates = more good

[pliant briar]

but all bugs you encountered 2 years ago are still there

[runic aspen]

i have a ps2 looking controller so hopefully it works

[gloomy cedar]

I dont like censorship, but i cant blame the devs

[nimble ruin]

Have they announced if there's anything we can do on mnk that we cant do on controller? Like how controller players on r6 siege cant lean without ads'ing, but mnk players can

[idle frigate]

You can lean

[shrewd rain]

I think it's kind of dumb, even tho I get what u tryna say @worn vessel

[runic aspen]

dx11 gave me more fps but i still have stutters and drops

[rigid bone]

'All that' is a bit inaccurate. It's 4 models over 25 maps, it's a drop in the bucket.

but while chat is calm

I'd rather not bring any more of that up right now

[worn vessel]

Ofc no one likes censorship but it just is how it is to get the game out to more people on different plans

[gloomy cedar]

not really, the whole game revolved around Police horrors, atleast add a slider where you can adjust the censorship with a slider in the settings.

[idle frigate]

Valley of dolls is untouched on console right
Just answer yes or no so a war doesn't start here

[pliant briar]

deploy hashbrowns

[shrewd rain]

Well I guess that is how it is, still a great game nontheless

[worn vessel]

Thats one of the most reasonable responses ive seen to the changes in days

[lilac vale]

One minute max, that all yiu guys get

[gloomy cedar]

But guys could we really blame the devs for a thing that SONY and other console companies said?

[idle frigate]

Nooo pls

[worn vessel]

Nooo please

[pliant briar]

looks like the supply from americans ran out (they're sleeping)

[lilac vale]

The americans are still here

Their lurking

But under the radar

[worn vessel]

Fuck yea

[lilac vale]

So dont try anything

[brisk yoke]

im gort

[lilac vale]

Funny.

I dont have the video

[pliant briar]

their what?

[lilac vale]

Sadly

[pliant briar]

also it reminded me of wesker's 7 minutes for some reason

[worn vessel]

7 minutes....7 minutes is all i can spare to play with you

On re5s pro difficulty i hated that and jills boss fight

[rigid bone]

Alrighty. What else have you tried to fix the issue?

[lilac vale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-war-thunder-war-cat-war-gif-4929875301120562890

Long missile

Also

@brisk yoke add a banner ffs

No boring void banner

You are the connoisseur of cat image and gifs no way you cant find a banner that fits your profile

[brisk yoke]

i dont have nitro

[lilac vale]

Still doesnt mean you cant add a banner

Come on buddy

[gloomy cedar]

Wait you can add banners?

[lilac vale]

Static image banner anyone can add

But animated/gif banner you need nitro

Basically be rich

[runic aspen]

fsr3, mid settings

[rigid bone]

Yup, the profiles are quite moddable

[gloomy cedar]

I have a very cool Screenshot, should I add that as my Banner?

[lilac vale]

Kams banner is kinda underwhelming

Its cute but underwhelming for Kam

It would be more fitting with a animated one

[gloomy cedar]

I have a Coast Guard Screenshot of RoN and a Metro SWAT, which one?

[lilac vale]

Try both

[gloomy cedar]

you cant you need NITRO for Banner

Even tho mine is static

[lilac vale]

Wow lame

Thanks discord

[gloomy cedar]

How is my new PFP?

it says USGC

[pseudo crow]

Has SWAT AI become more intelligent?

[rigid bone]

That depends, when did you play last?

[sterile oasis]

I'd like to get a pc idk if it would be worth it tho plus i dont wanna spend 1000 bucks where should i look or something?

[pseudo crow]

A few days ago

[rigid bone]

Then no

[fierce phoenix]

Then what's your actual development priority if you even cant have this fixed?

[shrewd rain]

just to get it straight, is the game as of today, the version that is acceptable for consoles, or will that update come with console-release??

[lilac vale]

coming with console release

[worn vessel]

Not to defend the devs too much but programming ai for a video game is really complex

[sacred elk]

so like this isn't gonna affect the PC version right?

[shrewd rain]

it is

[sacred elk]

brother what

[worn vessel]

For cross play sake and ease and consistency in development yes

[lilac vale]

PC market is very tricky to know where to look especially if you've never been PC gamer or anything before. I would really advise you to do lots of research on reliable sources to see what to look for and not waste too much money on it

[sacred elk]

that's kinda lazy ngl

I respect the hell out of the devs but that just seems kind of unecessary

[shrewd rain]

I mean they should really let us pc players have the choice

[worn vessel]

I think you forget that void is a small indie dev studio and not ea

[rigid bone]

That's not really possible

[rigid bone]

Just beacause we're taking the easy route doesn't mean we're lazy. We have limited resources at our disposal and problems that would take too much from other development areas to fix.

[sacred elk]

I'm well aware, I'm just not sure why they couldn't spend a few days working on that specifically

[sacred elk]

Not calling y'all lazy, you're great at what you do but that decision just seems lazy

[rigid bone]

Trust me when I say, it's a lot more than 'a few days'

[shrewd rain]

I mean I understand, but we bought the game because of how it was, and to what I understand, fundamentaly changing the game ain't really what we want

[loud walrus]

consoles=more sales

[shrewd rain]

yes, I get that but, for those that have supported the game for a long time, I can see how it kinda don't feel fair

[rigid bone]

I entirely disagree whenever someone says it's a fundamental change, the tweaks we had to make aren't even the worst, most evil, and disgusting things in the game. We're effectively taking from the bottom of the stack.

[sacred elk]

Then take a few weeks honestly, it saves the drama and division between the community and overall keeps the image intact. There are LOTS of people going to the extreme of saying that you've sold out (in which I disagree with).

[shrewd rain]

@rigid bone I understand, and I agree with the nudity part for example

[loud walrus]

i hate its getting censored but im also gonna like being able to play with my friends that dont have pc's

[rigid bone]

The problem is that, if that's all it took, we would have taken the delay and made it possible. What we've done is the absolute best option we had on hand, not a quick 'we'll fix it later' sort of thing.

[sacred elk]

The part I don't like is the removal of post-mortem dismemberment. Anyone who is super upset about the removal of the pics of the underaged girls is just weird.

I don't get the removal of nudity though, I mean GTA 6 is gonna have like RTX buttcheeks

[rigid bone]

There are fundamental issues with game-synch that we don't have the ability to fix for a variety of reasons.

[loud walrus]

my guess is the context but i agree

[rigid bone]

Context, yes

Also amount, the level of nudity, and the size of the studio

[worn vessel]

Rockstar is a big studio and a highly anticipated game aswell so i assume that bc of the sale it would generate sony wouldnt want to be so strict for moneydos sake

[shrewd rain]

I mean again, for those who have supported the game, and partially made its developments possible, feel like gameplay changes like the ones coming are unfair, (looking at reviews)

[sacred elk]

I'm not experienced in game development so I'm not one to really talk, but I had just assumed that the synchronization would be along the same lines as synchronizing unlocks and levels

[rigid bone]

Nope. it's a lot more complex than that

[loud walrus]

i get it but i also understand the perspective from a company

[sacred elk]

Does the licensing prevent you from just locking the content on console rather than deleting it entirely?

[shrewd rain]

I mean I get the fact that it's a smaller company and the content that has been put out is well the best swat-type of game out there but

[sacred elk]

Not licensing but you know what I mean

[idle frigate]

Kam is valley of dolls changed on console?

[rigid bone]

You introduce extra problems when you support two different builds, maintaining two builds means double cert time, double cert costs, double compiling time, double QA time, and the non-zero possiblity of drift between the two versions.

[vague helm]

Will it be possible to bring back everything you're gonna remove from PC using mods?

[rigid bone]

Yup!

You can just mod everything back in

[loud walrus]

w

[shrewd rain]

w

[rigid bone]

Yes, specifically all pictures on console that refrence minors have been changed in some way.

Not just on valley

[vague helm]

Ones that will be client sided only, right?

[rigid bone]

Yup

[loud walrus]

its ok guys we can stop fighting now

[rigid bone]

Since it's just changing out a .png

[sacred elk]

Ohhh, okay that makes a lot of sense. Like I said, I have no experience with making games so a majority of my frustration is with my ignorance on the actual issue itself

[rigid bone]

Naw, naw

[shrewd rain]

so Kaminsky, when talking about the gore-elemets, it's possible to just add mods on pc?

from mod io in game

[loud walrus]

when are u really gonna be mag dumping bodies tho

[rigid bone]

You have nothing to apologize for. Despite how our comms have been taken, we do understand why people are upset and I've always maintained the position that consumers are fully within their right to say whatever why want concerning changes to something they bought.

[vague helm]

And like this won’t be a reoccurring theme, right, Kaminsky?

[sacred elk]

when some methhead guns down my dudes from miles away, I'm dropping mags on that mf

[worn vessel]

The only gore elements to be removed tbh are dismemberment of dead bodies so not a big deal

[rigid bone]

☝️

[vague helm]

Nah there’s more

[shrewd rain]

okay, so gore still applies to live bodies?

[sacred elk]

my non-lethal run is turning lethal REAL quick

[rigid bone]

No, that's the only thing that's changed for gore.

[worn vessel]

Gore wise no nudity and other elements yes

[vague helm]

Oh yeah I thought you meant as a whole

[shrewd rain]

yeah me too

[loud walrus]

i dont get why gore had to change in the first place i feel like theres plenty of "gorey" stuff that's been released on console before

[worn vessel]

I think some of the other censorship couldve been better but the gore one isnt a big deal

[vague helm]

Kaminsky, did void try to negotiate with sony?

[light tartan]

"Of a Dead Body"
Does this mean, if you shoot the Right Angle, it stilL works when he is alive?

[worn vessel]

Np . miscommunication happens 💕

[vague helm]

To not have to do this change

[rigid bone]

A few places have issues with the treatment of corpses, yeah

[glass viper]

Question, this has likely already come up so i apologize for having to answer/address it again but were these censorship changes something that have just come up suddenly late into the port to console?

[loud walrus]

ahh

[eternal turtle]

why mods can do it but you can't?

[sacred elk]

That's the part that really confused me because RDR2 has some really gnarly gore, you can char and explode corpses post-mortem but they are still on console.

Might just be that Sony is incredibly biased and Rockstar has diplomatic immunity lol

[rigid bone]

We have very limited leeway given our company size, our reputation, and presence on console.

[vague helm]

And both games are 18+

[rigid bone]

In RDR2, the single player version is different in regions where you can't do that to dead bodies.

[loud walrus]

its not an issue of capability

[worn vessel]

Yes, you can still for example shoot a suspect arm of just not after he's already dead

[glass viper]

IE putting you guys in a tough position since all this work and resources have already gone into it

[vague helm]

So you didn’t even try?

[shrewd rain]

So everything stays the same as far as live bodies correct?

[pseudo crow]

New map contain scenes of extreme violence?

[rigid bone]

I never said that.

[gilded viper]

“I like pancakes”
“So you hate waffles”

[vague helm]

So did you?

[rigid bone]

Welcome to the discourse over the last week or so.

[eternal turtle]

what about old statement when was school map situation?

[vague helm]

It was kinda implied tbf

[sacred elk]

objectively though I think RDR2 could have had graphic sex scenes and still been put on console.

Ready or Not doesn't bring as much to the table as something like GTA 6, not that it isn't amazing but this update hasn't been hyped for 13 years

[worn vessel]

I love waffles but i still like a pancake from time to time

[rigid bone]

We did push back against quite a few changes, what we changed was the absolute minimum. For instance they wanted us to remove the young victim on Gas.

Though please be aware, and I cannot stress this enough, it's not JUST Sony. It's both big console companies and regional ratings boards across the world.

[rigid bone]

What about it? We still have the school in.

[vague helm]

I see

[worn vessel]

In germany for example if a game is too gorey the usk will refuse to even give it an 18 rating no rating means no retail version and in germany not even a steam version in some cases

[fierce phoenix]

Can you specify what "other development areas" per se? From the looks of it, we are on 6 months rotation of dlc including Ronsole update, Which means only 2 maps and 3 weapons in whole 2025 while 6 maps in 2024, the SWAT AI is not fixed, the bugs were still there, vanilla levels arent fully implemented with the new mechanism introduced in previous dlcs, environmental arts are basically low effort AI, some animations teasered back in 2023 arent even there, then what's your actual development area in?

[eternal turtle]

it feels like you take yours words back

[gilded viper]

Sidebar, I’m loving the name “Ronsole”

[worn vessel]

The fact im still trying to fight misinformation after some rum shots is funny xd

[shrewd rain]

@worn vessel are u german u said?

[worn vessel]

Yes sir

[shrewd rain]

bro it's the middle of the day ahahahaha

[worn vessel]

I dont have to work and if i drink in the evening i cant sleep

[shrewd rain]

fair that I guess

[worn vessel]

And its a birthday of a friend

[rigid bone]

Part of it is updating older levels, which has taken a lot on top of unraveling spaghetti code and getting back a lot of developmental debt to make future changes possible. Basically just pulling the game apart and untangling it, then putting it back together.

Unfortunately the consumer only sees those changes as minor performance upgrades, but it very much does make any future changes quicker and easier.

As far as the 'low effort AI', a large majority of our primary map assets are still made by a human. The AI slipping in is part of placeholder assets and slowly being replaced as we have the time and ability to fix it.

[worn vessel]

Ey you also from germany o europe?

[finite slate]

There is no way. This is still going on after 4 days+

[rigid bone]

It's been a week

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[sacred elk]

My biggest issue with the AI is the stopping in doorways

[vague helm]

Really shows how upset people are lol

[worldly kraken]

yes

[idle frigate]

Kam do you suggest waiting for the game to be better in performance or pre order it

Nahhhh who said that its still there you can blow the head

[finite slate]

I've seen poor kaminsky deal with this for days and he has to repeat himself every day 🥀

[rigid bone]

On console, the performance is much better than on PC. Since we only have to develop for one set of hardware

[gilded viper]

Will Ronsole have 60FPS?

[idle frigate]

Ye

[light tartan]

Why do so many People Talk about, that they remove like every Gore in RoN even though it is just the Body Part Thing?
Was this just a Communication Issue between the Newsletter / VOID and the Players?

[idle frigate]

Thats great

[mortal reef]

Most people know tat not every gore is being removed, I think you misunderstood

[rigid bone]

No, it's people losing their minds and making assumptions with a small handful of bad actors spreading misinformation.

No, a lot of people are saying it

Which is a problem

[worldly kraken]

Its not ready or not, without its "Realism" if you know what i mean. But the point is, theyve done this for what? 7 years now just to remove it on the big 25. What gives???

[finite slate]

Is there a feature you wish could be added to the game but cant cuz of current capabilities

[light tartan]

Okay, i saw many many TikToks for this. Even Invictus is said in his new Video that RoN will become a bad game because of the Gore.

[mortal reef]

from what I've personally seen its more an issue of principle. the fact THAT stuff is getting censored, not necessarily WHAT is being censored. Which I honestly fully understand

[rigid bone]

Mmmmm. A lot of things, actually.

[fierce phoenix]

OK it's partly good to know

[rigid bone]

Honestly, I do to.

but it is an unfortunate reality of expanding both the studio and the brand

[mortal reef]

yeah, its a decision each company has to make for its own

[worldly kraken]

its been 17+ since the begining, and outlast got away with its shit. Why cant ready or not do it aswell-?

[light tartan]

Dont act like that the Part with the Body Part Shooting is there since release. It was added like 2 Years ago? No one ever knew that Sony and the other Companies are against that

[rigid bone]

Like, full disclosure, the company holds no ill will against the people being upset. The only people that're grinding our gears are the ones pushing genuine misinformation and doing nothing but stirring the pot.

[mortal reef]

understandable

[sterile oasis]

10 MORE DAYS and understandable

[worldly kraken]

But yeah, Void has to do their thing lads. Its sony after all

[worn vessel]

Atleast sony and not nintendo

[rocky citrus]

Will console have mods do we know?

[rigid bone]

It comes down to specifics.

You can look at games that have more gore and look at how they present it, how it's featured, exactly who it's being done to and when, and where the game has been released.

[fading wind]

Outlast is currently riding a thin line and risks being outright banned in certain regions

[rigid bone]

No

[mortal reef]

consoles never do besides skyrim

[rocky citrus]

In the future?

[worldly kraken]

lets just hope it dont end up in PSN

[sterile oasis]

Yea some of you need to stop cursing void and going after them anyone else would've took the deal you get to expand your game and make more revenue and have a crap ton of players just to do the bare minimum changes..it'd be dumb not to do it

[mortal reef]

dont expect it

[rocky citrus]

Arma does

[rigid bone]

Nope, likely not

[mortal reef]

we named 2 games out of the thousands lol. It usually doesnt happen on consoles

[worn vessel]

Do You speak spanish?

[worldly kraken]

Nah

[worldly kraken]

no, i dont

[worn vessel]

Interesting

[quiet fable]

Hey kaminsky is there anyway a beta build could be added as a snapshot and not updated so if people want they can easily stay on the current version (with no future updates obviously) with all non censored assets and others can update with console release. This would fix the issue of supporting multiple builds right?

[glass viper]

👆

[worn vessel]

Oh a clone trooper

[sterile oasis]

They probably know there will be a mod

[eternal glen]

Related topic question, I want to ask if its possible to release the cut censored content on NexusMod, either officially by a communications account or let a trusted modder upload it. I think 90% of the people will be happy with that.

[lilac vale]

Basically stir a empty pot

[rigid bone]

Not exactly, not having the beta build is to entirely head off the 'update old build with X pls'. It's the same reason we removed the old Supporter build, because it was no longer being updated.

As for the content itself it'll be more than easy to mod back in, it won't be a mod we release @eternal glen but it will likely drop on day 1 or pretty close to it.

[quiet fable]

Sorry not trying to stir this is literally my first post on this topic but I feel this would solve most of the controversy

[fading wind]

Different systems and ways of implementing mods. RoN requires replacing or adding .pak files, something that would require a whole program or system to do on consoles

[quiet fable]

Could it be an option at least to discuss and just make it very obvious that there will be no future updates for the snapshotted build?

[eternal glen]

As long as there is a way to mod all the censored content back in, I think there will be no issue, after the mod releases ofc. Its just the period between the censorship up until the mod releases.

[worldly kraken]

Cant wait for the pepperball pistol tho, ive started to use the pepperballs more often now for achievements run rather than the beanbag

And please tell me theres gonna be sweet achievements on the new maps, i need me something to complete

[blissful ice]

So all the hate that RoN is getting is because of console crossplay?

[rigid bone]

You give people too much credit.

[eternal glen]

Well most of it is due to censorship due to console release. Not due to the console release or crossplay itself. Console release is a good thing.

[light tartan]

Nope, because of the Censoring that is soooo little.

[tough vapor]

so how does the age rating work because rimworld is on console and you can do the most abhorrent things

[quiet fable]

Perhaps but I think it would stop majority of the outrage

[worldly kraken]

Yeah, kinda happy that RON gets to expand its franchise (At a cost)

[rigid bone]

Mainly because you're doing it to characters that consist of two shapes.

[blissful ice]

I don’t care about the censoring to be honest, I just want them to add more Gibs and gore.

[quiet fable]

Anyway thank you for hearing me out

[rigid bone]

Like I said, ratings stuff is very specific.

[worldly kraken]

I need the achievements

[rigid bone]

It's entirely about optics

[blissful ice]

I wanna blow my enemies away with a shotgun Doom Style

[glass viper]

PC audiences have always been pretty easily angered, especially if that anger is caused by console players At the end of the day i do understand why people are upset and im frankly not a fan of it all myself. Given that censorship is a pretty hot/controversial topic lately it was going to blow up

[blissful ice]

Fair

[glass viper]

But seems to be overall a difficult/unfortunate situation

[eternal glen]

I hope this doesn't discourage VOID from pushing forward with their vision tho. Best case scenario is we get more implied horror, but I hope the censorship doesn't force them to re-eventuate how they will build the narrative and plot points.

[sterile oasis]

And it's getting blown a bit out of proportion imp

[blissful ice]

Why don’t they just censor console and leave PC players alone? 💀

[worldly kraken]

Kaminsky, are there gonna be more achievements on the upcoming maps? Cuz i need something to hunt in every playthrough

[fading wind]

Absurdly so from what I looked into, for a variety of reasons

[finite slate]

Were you there 8 years ago at the earliest development of the game and are most of the people from the start still at void

[rigid bone]

Nope, I'm only 3 years in.

[rigid bone]

Of course there will be

[quiet fable]

Actually just to bring up another possibility with the build idea could the build only be left up until a mod was available to fix it if people want then the build removed? sorry this will be my last post on this

[worldly kraken]

YEAHHHHHHHHH

[pseudo crow]

Has VOID learned from AI systems in other games, such as Stalker?

[worldly kraken]

ALRIGHT, IM FINE WITH THE 17+ THINGS GONE, I NEED ME TO GRIND

[glass viper]

That is probably my biggest worry as well, these big publishers at least in my experience always change their mind at the drop of a hat.

[rigid bone]

Now that I don't know. We keep the team that works on the AI in a little dark box.

[blissful ice]

Imagine PC players are so pissed that they make a modded client of RoN 😂😂😂

[eternal glen]

Stalker SOC to Stalker Anomaly, not Stalker 2*

[worldly kraken]

(Platinume in Steam)

[keen monolith]

Stalker 2 was trash

[rigid bone]

All things considered, STALKER 2 came out pretty ok.

[worldly kraken]

The 17+ Aspects is what shaped the lore ngl

[finite slate]

still pretty long, do you know who in this server has been with void the longest?

[blissful ice]

I thought it was amazing

[rigid bone]

In the server?

Ryno

[eternal glen]

If they fix the AI to be more like a better A-Life then its an okay Stalker game, until then, yeah.

[keen monolith]

Wasn’t a fan at all felt like a pc game with too much darkness couldn’t never see no where on the screen

[glass viper]

I second the beta build idea, seems to be a pretty good way to have most people keep parity and maintaining only one build while the upset people can stay on the beta build.

Im no dev though so im sure i dont see all the optics of that

[keen monolith]

I just feel some pc games should stick too pc only just by game combats and game movement just certain pc games are just meant pc only i felt stalker 2 should have been pc only

[worldly kraken]

Why do i have a feeling the party crasher achievement is bugged, i apprehended Sah'id before he could order the enemy to execute the civi's

[fiery ether]

Did slugs ever get fixed in multiplayer?

[eternal glen]

Well I don't blame GSC, they died like twice and had to have funding, especially during the war. So I'm glad they are back but I blame Microsoft for making the focus be console-ish and too streamlined.

[gilded viper]

Why do that when you can make Money

[fading wind]

Compared to the original stalkers, I'd agree. But as a new game that was developed during an active conflict and lost members of its team, I think it came out alright

[lilac vale]

If you heard gunshots civs got killed

You have to both arrest him alive and keep all civs alive

[worldly kraken]

Never heard any

[lilac vale]

And also

The achivement pops after you finish the mission

[keen monolith]

No one barely played it most my buddies agreed with me at lease you guys are agreeing too yea I just feel like some games are just meant to stay as a pc game that’s all I just think stalker 2 they did horrible

[worldly kraken]

and all of them are well alive, hell i even got S

[quiet fable]

And again Kaminsky thank you for hearing me out I have seen what's been going on this server/reddit and steam the past few days and I don't envy you or the mods

[fallen sail]

If TOC made the blanket statement of "civilians are present" or shit like that then the map turned into active shooter mode

[lilac vale]

Not as soon as you fufil the creiteria like some other

[fallen sail]

It is an incredibly poorly communicated action

You need to arrest sah'id before TOC makes that statement essentially and make sure no civilians are harmed for the achievement

Rank doesn't matter

[worldly kraken]

Considering i never heard toc say "There are currently multiple active shooters on sight"

Since i have noticed they start killing once that voiceline of TOC activates

[lilac vale]

no

that line he says at the start

IIRC

[glass viper]

I didnt mind stalker 2 for what it was, but yeah it did not feel like a true stalker game. Still enjoyed it though

[worldly kraken]

for me he says the "Multiple hostages" or something2

[lilac vale]

I never had any issues with party crasher as long as you spawn in the middle level of the yacht cause then Sahid spawns usually the other side of you and you just can go straight for him, just he has a like 3 suspects guargding him

[worldly kraken]

And he said the active shooter part whilst arresting the suspects

[fallen sail]

It's a bunch of really poorly implemented undescriptive lines

Just if TOC starts yapping about hostages in the middle of the mission you failed

[worldly kraken]

Atp im just gonna repeat it all over again until i get it

[fallen sail]

That's pretty much what you have to do yeah

I hate yacht for that

[worldly kraken]

theres also this one instance in the leviathan, where you order a suspect to get down. Once they do you cant arrest them since they are technically still pointing a gun at you (which made me figure out why my AI team were still trying to say "Get down on the ground")

[idle frigate]

Whos sahid

[lilac vale]

This goes for all achievements that require you to fulfil a certain/weird criteria. Just keep trying, they will pop eventually

[worldly kraken]

An enemy in the dark waters DLC on a yacht

[idle frigate]

Looks like i need to study the game

[worn vessel]

The toc voice sounds almost the same to me as the swat 4s am i imagining things?

[fallen sail]

I can safely tell you it's not the same

[worn vessel]

Ah ok, i thought it was the same just a higher quality recording for judge and toc

[fading wind]

@rigid bone Quick question, are current achievements going to be reworded to accurately reflect the current name of a mission?

[fallen sail]

Most achievements that have the "wrong" name usually just have internal names for the maps

I'm guessing you're talking about something like coyote, right?

[worldly kraken]

Man, i want a ready or not series so badly

[zealous bane]

its weird to think there have been 3 TOC voice actors

[worn vessel]

Tbf if it wouldve been the same voice actors i wouldve really thought thts awesome

[fallen sail]

One of them was just re-recordings

This one is brand new

[surreal blade]

Who is the VO?

[fallen sail]

Err not quite sure

[next grove]

how much gb is the pc version?

[zealous bane]

I miss the one that sounded like a radio

[fallen sail]

It's definetly not TOC from swat 4

[surreal blade]

No way you guys got the same voice actor lmao

[lilac vale]

60 ish GB

[worldly kraken]

will the HRT ever return?

[lilac vale]

no it's been replaced with current FISA gear

[fallen sail]

Would have been cool yeah but i don't think so

[worn vessel]

Also the entry team (judge) sounds similiar to swat 4

[fading wind]

Correct, my buddies and I were confused about it at first. Wasn't Coyote the old name for Rust Belt?

[worldly kraken]

Im guessing because of the FBI copyright thing

[fallen sail]

We need a sunny bonds reference in ron

[fallen sail]

Coyote is still technically correct designation for rust belt

[lilac vale]

Basically to avoid that issue outright basically

[surreal blade]

The achievement is also still named coyote btw

[worldly kraken]

that FISA agent actually PMO in hide in seek

[worn vessel]

I wish i still had a pc i wanna replay swat 4 now lol

[fallen sail]

It would probably help avoid confusion yeah but i don't think it's impossible to figure out

[next grove]

is there any reason why the console version is way less gb?

[surreal blade]

Apparently it’s causing some people not to get the achievement

[fallen sail]

What?

[worn vessel]

Possibly on the PC version again has to download the size for low medium and high graphic settings for under the console vers. That's just one setting.

[fading wind]

For coding reasons, I'm guessing?

[worldly kraken]

also this

[fallen sail]

The description doesn't affect the code behind the achievement

Every map in RON has like 3 different names

They just dropped the internal name on the achievement description for way out west

for some reason

[surreal blade]

Also I didn’t know you guys got bill burr to sponsor you on his podcast

[idle frigate]

Looks like i am cooked with the intel

[finite slate]

whats the downside to wearing the balistic mask vs without

[fallen sail]

barely noticable vignette on the sides of the screen and no gas mask

[zealous bane]

Face doesn't get blown off?

[fallen sail]

Doesn't affect that

[rigid bone]

Faces still get blown off

[idle frigate]

😈

[fading wind]

Regarding ballistic masks, not the changes

[mossy pulsar]

Bruh changing the girl into sleeping looks no different dawg, is console that sensitive😭

[surreal blade]

Jesus the subreddit is in flames rn

[fallen sail]

yeah i think kaminsky went into fight or flight 😭

[zealous bane]

The mask doesn't do anything?

[fallen sail]

It gives higher durability to your helmet hitbox

[pseudo crow]

Why the suspect's shotgun couldn't cause amputation injuries to SWAT

[fading wind]

Its Reddit. Is that surprising to you?

[fallen sail]

it means you'll take 2 extra hits to the head before taking damage

[surreal blade]

I feel like she’d also wake up from all the gunshots

[surreal blade]

I was about to ask that it’s like we read each others mind

[surreal blade]

True

[candid parcel]

What if all of these changes are just a gimmick done by void.... And then they arent actually censoring the game!!! (I say as i am dragged away)

[worldly kraken]

Kaminsky, will there be new gear?

[fading wind]

I didn't even think about that. I'm usually getting shredded by rifles and smgs or getting one tapped with pistols

[fallen sail]

Actually they should be able to from what i remember

It's just way smaller chance than yours

[surreal blade]

Who’s your lead animator btw? That does all the weapon animations and such I know you guys bought on reticulon

[surreal blade]

Up the chance, I’ve never seen it happen tbh

Tf is Ali?

[lilac vale]

Ali is a dev working with VOID

if that's who you're talking about

He's a gameplay,systems Ai programmer for VOID

[fallen sail]

You do not want to up the chance to get instakilled if a pellet hits you

[lilac vale]

Basically all the code code he dough dough

[pseudo crow]

In Hard mode, can you guys add this dismemberment setting?

[fallen sail]

I think there's multiple guys working on it, i don't directly work for VOID

[gloomy cedar]

thats not important, what is important is that we want that police horror that we asked for

[surreal blade]

Oh

[dusty thicket]

Are there any expected AI-improvements in the near future? The last time I played (last December?) it was really rough on some maps (Greased Palms)

[zealous bane]

Friendly ai used to be garbage its so much better now lmao

[gloomy cedar]

you cant expect to make it ok with faces being blown off

[runic aspen]

Another day, another stupid argument about censorship.

[surreal blade]

Kaminsky, how many animators do you all have working on your team? I know one being Reticulon

[gloomy cedar]

It isnt stupid

Its not the fault of the devs but they could atleast put a Gore Slider.

[surreal blade]

I’m just gonna wait for mods to fix all of this

[dusty thicket]

What's with the influx of new discord users here who are complaining about complaints?

[rigid bone]

You still have that, covering up some chest and groin doesn't change the fact that the bodies are still on Neon, the manager with his head blow open is still on Gas, the barrels are still on Valley, and the workers are still hanging from Leviathan

All of that is still there and it's still as bloody and gruesome as it's always been.

[fading wind]

Its easier to complain to the devs here

[gloomy cedar]

That is another thing

how the hell can a Child sleep through a Drug Bust? That means shes dead which you made it WORSE for yourselves, it isnt your fault as I said but it can be fixed through a Gore slider, I mean you made a fantastic game, but with censorship it doesnt hit as it was.

[rigid bone]

[surreal blade]

Kam needs some pats poor guy

[rigid bone]

Naw, I need a vacation

[runic aspen]

They did.

[gloomy cedar]

did, not they have, did is diffrent

[surreal blade]

Watching the pvp mode rn is interesting

[runic aspen]

It's been in the game forever

[rigid bone]

No we don't have a slider and we CAN'T have one

[gloomy cedar]

why?

[surreal blade]

Stop trying to gaslight players to think they had a slider

[fading wind]

@rigid bone Correct me if I'm wrong, isn't the "sleeping" child an old model from a previous build and is more of a stopgap measure for now

[surreal blade]

They’re just a little Eepy

[gloomy cedar]

But that makes it worse for VOID because it implies that the Child is DEAD.

[rigid bone]

First of all there's no gore to put on the slider, all of it is still in there. You're just losing the ability to blow apart bodies.

Second we ne to limit the amount of differences between the versions to make synching the games as reliable as possible.

[rigid bone]

That's also not how that works. Stop it.

[gloomy cedar]

fair enough

[rigid bone]

On the continued note of the kids, have none of you taken first aid classes?

https://www.australiawidefirstaid.com.au/media-library/recovery-position-chart-923w.webp

[runic aspen]

It's the only way to enjoy the argument

[rigid bone]

No it's not, and if you continue to try, I'll remove you from the server.

That only makes things worse for everyone involved

[gloomy cedar]

So tell me, how should a poor kid sleep through gun shots? I mean I get it, you need to do that to actually release the game on console but you dont need to change the PC version

[fading wind]

A slider means the files for the full thing are still present, therefore still affect the ratings

[rigid bone]

Because a drug overdose doesn't always show as a seizure

[surreal blade]

Kam how many animators are currently working at ready or not and who’s responsible for the weapon animations? Because they’re amazing

[gloomy cedar]

You use it when a person is unconscious, which happends through severe Trauma or implications like strong heat or dehydration, or when (as I got corrected), when youre in danger to drown in your own Vomit

[rigid bone]

I think we got 5~ animators?

[fading wind]

Drug-induced comas are a hell of a thing

[gloomy cedar]

I mean an Abused kid is fine

[mossy lance]

cant wait for this to come out on playstation

[rigid bone]

or is in danger of drowing in their on vomit

[fading wind]

Or heavily intoxicated

[worldly kraken]

Are there gonna be drones? (I remembered it being in the reveal/pre-order trailer

[loud walrus]

yeah theres gonna be wire guided fpv drones

[surreal blade]

Oh I see, I remember you guys picking up Reticulon? (If you can remember their name) are they still on the team? Because they made a video about it then deleted their channel afterwards.

[rigid bone]

Nope. Those are one of the things we stopped trying to add after we realized it really didn't fit in what we were trying to do

[gloomy cedar]

but how would a drug indunced gang actually know first aid? Nevermind they already covered up that blood thing to that one dude

[surreal blade]

“I watched Jane die”

[rigid bone]

It was never really something that was in the game

So it's not correct to say it was removed

[worldly kraken]

damn

[gloomy cedar]

tell me atleast that PC remains unchanged?

[pseudo crow]

Why do you equip Secret Service agents with FALs?

[worldly kraken]

let me hold your hand while saying this, its gonna be changed

[rigid bone]

Becaise FALs are awesome

[gloomy cedar]

I really love the game and I understand the changes to the 23 megabytes and Lethal Obession, but the rest doesnt make sense

[worldly kraken]

Cutscenes is what i like to see ngl, just an infil animation

[surreal blade]

Is there any chance we will see removed guns come back into the game? (Like the Sig p250 or the 1911/2011 from the alpha and other guns)

[rigid bone]

you also know it's been changed, you've been here since the newsletter announcing the changes.

[rigid bone]

[pseudo crow]

And Makarov, why does this firearm appear in most maps?

[rigid bone]

Because there's a million of them and they're dirt cheap

Hell you can get a Mak copy for less than a HiPoint

[sick wadi]

I agree

[gloomy cedar]

I started playing the game since 2023, but I dint yet check the new Newsletter

[worldly kraken]

yall said 2 maps will be added back, right? Will there be more?

[surreal blade]

Yay! Any update on the laser/ light combo attachment/ attachment overhaul system that void announced a while back?

[gloomy cedar]

"Twisted Nerve: The girl is now depicted as sleeping instead of convulsing."

[rigid bone]

It's also been the topic of discussion for the last week.

[gloomy cedar]

I dont really care about topic of discussion, me play, me happy

[dusty thicket]

Aww. Censorship blows. You guys could have handled the communication better by giving us some kind of signal that the console censors were demanding changes before everything was set in stone. I think bulk of the criticism comes from people who feel like the vision was betrayed, and everything was sprung on players after everything was already sorted to accommodate console release. Feels a bit disrespectful, especially when some of those players have been supporting the project for years and years.

[pseudo crow]

In your opinion, which is better, the G3 or the FAL?

[gloomy cedar]

exactly, you cant demand that everyone will understand changes when you literally said its about Police horrors

[rigid bone]

All .308 guns are brothers, don't pit them against eachother

[surreal blade]

Also the man wearing the underwear on narcos doesn’t really make sense no? Why would a cartel not fully strip him and leave his underwear on to humiliate him further

[tepid peak]

it’s a game my guy

[gloomy cedar]

the Body Pillows were not even asked for, its just dissapointing

[rigid bone]

9000 people signed up to order one

[slow shore]

ok so i just came back to this game after a year or so, whats all the stuff i'm hearing about censor and stuff 😭

[gloomy cedar]

I mean I do get him letting wear Underwear

[rigid bone]

At this point we've sold almost 1000

[tepid peak]

are you joking them body pillows are the most wanted thing

[gloomy cedar]

Thats even more dissapointing.

[mental dune]

it doesnt make sence at all. non of the changes do besides the changes to the streamer level. its the only one that is actually an improvement.

[worn vessel]

I know i wasnt asked but i as a german gonna say the G3 is better thsn the. Fal

[surreal blade]

Oh shit I still gotta put in my pre order

[gloomy cedar]

23 megabytes a second makes sense and so does lethal obsession and Narcos

[mental dune]

i dont know if i want to be concerned or impressed

[surreal blade]

I mean uh what? Ahem

[tepid peak]

what got changed in lethal obsession?

[dusty thicket]

I didn't realize the body pillows were a real thing, lol.

[gloomy cedar]

the rest is dissapointing that they removed it.

[rigid bone]

https://na.merch.voidinteractive.net/products/no-judgement-body-pillow

It's real @dusty thicket

[gloomy cedar]

The man doesnt anymore has his willy out which is ok for me.

[tepid peak]

oh yeah I don’t care about that

[surreal blade]

Garad cock is now Garad covered

[gloomy cedar]

me too

[tepid peak]

I don’t mind any of the things I haven’t even played the game

[mental dune]

the twitching girl is now sleeping peacefully and the cartel is a bunch of softies.

[gloomy cedar]

I mean people are already boycotting the game, if that isnt bad enough.

[surreal blade]

Who did the artwork for this btw?

[fading wind]

Still needs freshly shidded tightie whities instead of clean briefs, in my opinion

[tepid peak]

the things like the child convulsing would’ve been darker walking by and knowing you can’t do anything but idm anhthing that’s been changed

[gloomy cedar]

I mean I get Narcos as some Cartels do that (Documenteries) but the twitching girl is dissapointing they changed that.

[mental dune]

nah needs to be torn and full of holes.

[worn vessel]

I need that body pillow to sleep better
Judge with a glock like hes trying to seduce me

[real ridge]

what

[gloomy cedar]

It actually felt like you needed to complete the mission ASAP but now its: 'Lets take our time!'

[fading wind]

They can be torn and shidded

[tepid peak]

this would be temporary since they had to do it rn maybe they’ll change it

[mental dune]

his tinfoil armor looks sharp so it would make sence for them to be torn

[worn vessel]

What

[normal river]

My biggest concern is that further Updates, DLCs etc. will never be as dark again as the game currently is, because of compliance with the console guidelines.

[real ridge]

what is the link to that

[slow shore]

can one of y'all tell me whats going on with all the censoring and stuff? i just got into the game again after a year or so

[worldly kraken]

Remember what tyler said?

"My fans would probably cut a hole in it and fck it"

[tepid peak]

they’ll be darker and grittier than before they’ve passed certification so they won’t have to change anything else

[unreal quiver]

Ignore em. Just people crying. Thats all.

[rigid bone]

Check the pinned posts

[worn vessel]

Kam sent a link to the pillow

[surreal blade]

Ready or nots “unheard edition” drama.

[pseudo crow]

So why are some of the Los Locos models in Narcos based on models from the Elephant level? Is this just being lazy?

[mental dune]

Narcos is the only bit of nudity i care for is narcos because i had to chase this guy through muliple houses when i played that map. dude just didnt want to comply lol

[worldly kraken]

God damn

[dusty thicket]

One thing I'd like to point out is that it's nice VOID people are active in their game Discord. While I don't like the censorship changes and some other stuff surrounding it, it must be tough hearing the same pieces of criticism in a much worse manner hour after hour due to the controversy. I don't remember who put it in this way, but it's like receiving chip damage every time you see a rude, critical message about it. And there are ton of those, and there will be ton of those.

[tepid peak]

he’s only got underwear on

[rigid bone]

If anything, now we know how to play around the restrictions.

[rigid bone]

See, the chip damage doesn't come from being being critical, it's more the people that're obstinant to all the messaging and ignore anything being said about the changes for their own internal narrative.

[surreal blade]

Now that you mention it.. they do look similar except the ones in narcos have different colored shirts and a mask on

[fading wind]

I get that. I wasn't trying to sound like a turd, just trying to add some humor in these chaotic times. Most of the changes seem to be quick answers, but not final ones

[mental dune]

how will we know void will push the bondarys of the restrictions insted of treating it as the roof.

[rigid bone]

Beyond my word, you don't.

[worldly kraken]

Are snipers gonna be implemented or neigh?

[surreal blade]

For the port you guys could have given them shredded clothes or blankets

[real ridge]

NO WAY

[fallen sail]

Censorship negotiations happen under wraps, NDAs are in place for a reason and VOID could have easily been assholes and only communicated the changes like a day before release

[tepid peak]

nah I know you guys are probably the most chill ones talking about censorship, the other days ppl were going crazy

[mental dune]

asset reuse. its just the type of suspects they are calling in the ai table.

[dusty thicket]

Oh yes, having to repeat the same stuff all the time.

[rigid bone]

Likely not

[gloomy cedar]

yeah true, respect for that.

[surreal blade]

Whyyyy

[rigid bone]

Same reasons as the drones, honestly

[tepid peak]

how would we use snipers we would have to sit on a rooftop just sniping ppl

[worldly kraken]

damn, wanted to pull that legendary colombus sniper shot

[gloomy cedar]

It starts with censorship until the game becomes a kid game.

[worldly kraken]

That one dude that was sitting on the chair with a pistol

[tepid peak]

it won’t

[fallen sail]

Genuienly just look at how "useful" the helicopter overwatch is right now

[gloomy cedar]

It will, same thing happened with COD.

[worldly kraken]

Tf no, it aint gonna turn into call of duty or fortnite

[rigid bone]

So remember what I just said to Walde? the chip damage doesn't come from being being critical, it's more the people that're obstinate to all the messaging and ignore anything being said about the changes for their own internal narrative.

[unreal quiver]

And how do you know?

[fallen sail]

Snipers would be super situational

[surreal blade]

True.. I don’t even use it but I’m glad it’s there please add it in other DLCs down the line

[tepid peak]

you think ron will add cleveland brown or butthead and bevis to the game

[worldly kraken]

Actually, call of duty got converted

[fading wind]

The beauty of oddly specific guidelines is that you could dance around them, so long as you don't break them

[fathom axle]

What I really want is if there going to censor this game for the price of greed then I want a way to get a refund since i have had this game and bought it for the hyper real and dark aspect of the game. Since I got it on steam and is well past the refund stage. And the company wishes to chase the almighty cash and sale out we on pc need a avenue to opt out since the product is no longer as advertised.

[rigid bone]

Singleplayer is still as gritty and dirty as its' always been, but everyone ignores it.

[unreal quiver]

These haters act so arrogant and igonrent on purpose. Its so annoying.

[worldly kraken]

Have you been on the internet alot today?

[gloomy cedar]

because censorship most of the time leads to that, unless VOID actually promises thats the only censorship.

[idle frigate]

Campaign in the last cod was actually good

[tepid peak]

only way you can get a refund is contacting steam

[gloomy cedar]

forgot to add happened

[mental dune]

They could work in RoN. Having a team spying on a window is helpful, esp on some of the larger maps.

[tepid peak]

that is they have passed certification so they know what can and can’t be in the game, have you seen the things that are still in the game

[rigid bone]

If the product truely falls under the veil of 'false advertising', then Steam will give refunds like they always have. If they don't, then they don't consider this change to be fundimental enough.

[unreal quiver]

That doesn't mean Void is gonna turn Ready Or Not into COD

[surreal blade]

When will we get a riot missi-

[normal river]

Well to be fair, most for of criticism seems to be ignored. The only real offical response i saw was the comparison on steam and one threat in the steam community discussion, on which soon no further replies came. What is written sometimes in some random channel on discord or reddit is smoke and mirrors.

[gloomy cedar]

it may happen but idk.

[worldly kraken]

thats because yall make the game represent the real life counterpart. Yall are tryna prove a point and show that joining SWAT or the Military aint about action. Its hell

[fading wind]

CoD also lost itself trying to be Fortnite, with more crossovers than original content

[rigid bone]

-and that's what we're doing. That's not ever going to change.

[worldly kraken]

And honestly, yall are respectful for that, because yall are showing them that war aint all about actions and sliding

[real ridge]

can we argue less and talk more about the judge body pillow?????

[rigid bone]

That would be nice

[surreal blade]

All these crossovers and still no John wick surprisingly they have ballerina but no John wick??? Result?

[worldly kraken]

Man just shut up and take my money, ive already bought your album in steam. Give me more content!

[fading wind]

Fortnite beat them to it

[fathom axle]

which is impossible since I have had it since 2022. I mean its fine if they go through with this then i can add Void to Bioware Actvision and other developers and not buy anymore games and or dlcs if you want to fix this then us as a communty has to hit them where it truely matters and thats the wallet

[obsidian copper]

Im gonna pre-order RON for console, but instead of cancelling my helldivers 2 pre order im just gonna get standard edition of both.

[unreal quiver]

A lot of the criticism is ignored because yall say the same stuff. Doesn't matter if Void staff answer your questions. Yall still ask the same thing people before yall already asked and got an answer to.

[worldly kraken]

This is what makes these types of genres great, they go againts the war is fun propaganda considering most games are basically influencing some people to go to war because of the "action"

[idle frigate]

Well if you bought smth and used it for 3 years you still think about refunding?

[surreal blade]

When will judge get a skirt and thigh highs?

[idle frigate]

Nahhhh 😂

[mental dune]

Is the new update going to fix the ai? whats going to be in the next update
besides censorship

[fathom axle]

Yes i cannot in good standing support any company that will bend the knee like this.

[idle frigate]

Difficulty

[surreal blade]

Difficulty settings

You can either go hard or soft for the ai

[idle frigate]

You know you have mods to reverse that

[mental dune]

[real ridge]

nah when will the informant get that

[rigid bone]

It's far from ignored, the problem is we address it and people genuinely continue to be obstinante. For the first three days I spent my time exclusively between here and Steam replying to people, only to have it ignored and false narratives pushed the next post below me.

Less than eight hours of sleep across three days and thousands of messages led us here. Someone saying that we're ignoring criticism.

[normal river]

Maybe the same points would not be brought up again and again if they would be properly offical adressed and not ignored or written in some random discord channel.

[mental dune]

no way, we ask them to fix the ai and they just add a difficulty setting. are they ever going to fix the bloody ai or are we going to have to do it our selfs if they ever release the sdk

[surreal blade]

Kammmm with the difficulty setting, will there be more mission modifiers? Like you can choose how many suspects to add and how many civilians you can add (in quick play of course)

[rigid bone]

Now that I'm not sure.

[tough turret]

Will we be getting more gun accessories (sights, grips etc.) in the future?

[fathom axle]

one shouldn't have to mod a game to restore what said game was

[unreal quiver]

I don't think you pay attention in the RON Discord. These haters come in talking shit and asking same questions Void staff have already asnwered.

Even when they do give a valid answer yall are doing nothing but act with ignorance and arrogance.

Look at what @rigid bone said.

[surreal blade]

Oh please bring it up if yall can in the next meeting or whatever you guys do I would love to see it and I think it would be a lot of fun especially in multiplayer

[surreal blade]

The hate is warranted but I would stlll give void a hug and pats

[rigid bone]

It entirely comes down to optics. Release after release ends up clogging the messaging and makes us seem overly defensive, which we've got no cause to be.

We've said our peace and our actions are both to better the game and the company. Nothing to be ashamed of.

[frank lily]

Anyone here own an irl business perchance?

[rigid bone]

I personally used to run two.

[frank lily]

Do you own any at the moment?

[rigid bone]

Naw

I prefer to be an employee

Much better on my stress levels

[wide tusk]

at this point its pointless to keep arguing with them request refunds or do charge backs its the only way they will learn from this mistake. If all of us who left negative reviews did a charge back or refunded void would be hurting for money and would prolly reverse these changes

[frank lily]

Ahh I see, could I message you with a quick question?

[surreal blade]

Kam can you make judge and he swat guys look like actual swat in their physical appearance? They look like twigs I won’t lie they don’t look buff if that makes sense

[rigid bone]

Shoot

[rigid bone]

Chargebacks often aren't possible after a year, even moreso if you've been engaging with the product. Your card carrier won't care about any 'changes', and if you lie to them, bank fraud is not a cheap thing to recover from.

If you want a refund Via steam, I'll even instruct you on how to place one.

[frank lily]

Awesome, sent 🙂

[unreal quiver]

How is it valid? Because they promised? "Oh but its the principle". Sure whatever you say. Not like Void was able to do anything about it. Eventually everything will change. Its inevitable. Anyone would sacrifice censorship for money. Void needs money. You think they do this for free?

[runic aspen]

Hands down the saddest part of this whole thing is that REGARDLESS of the severity of the changes, this game will lose a large majority of it's PC player base.

And I love this game a lot.

[dusty thicket]

Uh, I think I asked this before, but are there any AI updates in the horizon?

[mental dune]

void has an intresting way of treating criticism. Ignoring is a strong word but sometimes insted of accepting that something isnt working they just double down.

[rigid bone]

You significantly oversell the word 'majority'

[wide tusk]

Charge back comment was more for the people who got it and steam denies their refund. Charge backs are valid for 60-120 days and the product being changed then what was promised is a valid reason for a charge back. The rest of it is correct it is bank fraud to lie when applying for a charge back.

[dusty thicket]

Or has there been AI changes after last December? Asking because I'm thinking if I want to try Greased Palms with the beanbag shotties again 😅 Last time didn't go so well.
#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message
#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[rigid bone]

Under both EU and US law, our changes are not broad or sweeping enough to constitute a claim of 'false advertising' or 'bait and switch' style fraud.

Considering how open we've been about the changes, all it takes is a simple google search to see the breadth of them.

[surreal blade]

It’s valid because I feel like void is now going a bit back on their themes for what they set out to originally want to show and no I don’t think they do this for free I mean a good compromise for these changes would be like I said before making the woman have ripped clothes or a blanket over them I get they’re doing this for money so they can make ready or not 2

[fiery ether]

You should be aware that a platform will also dislike chargebacks if they didn't authorize a refund so be careful if you aim to keep using steam

[rigid bone]

This too.

[normal river]

It dosent have to be a true "double down", but some sort of work around or enhancement would be enough. For example on the new Calvin Klein underwear

[quiet fable]

Hey kaminsky did you see my second post above about possibly leaving an old build up until mods are made to reverse the change for those that want to then removing it?

[wide tusk]

I cant get a refund as much as id love too, Since I backed it before it was on steam

[frank lily]

I sent you that message 👍

[quiet fable]

would possibly solve people asking for an update for old builds

[dusty thicket]

Wait, did I get killed due to friendly fire in the first clip? 😆

[surreal blade]

Another censorship change should be to the veterans and to their prosthetics, I see their legs but none really have a prosthetic arm, especially a red arm, akin to some sort of Phantom pain

[mental dune]

hasnt been an update since decemeber.

[lost parrot]

Ahhh another long wait

[dusty thicket]

Roger, thanks.

[lost parrot]

How i crave to play on July 15th

[mental dune]

this isnt even about the censorship. they double down on the ai with 1.0 then it took us forever to convince them it was fucked.

[unreal quiver]

Going back on there theme. Dude the game still has a gritty and scary theme. They just had to censor it a little bit.

[wide tusk]

Directly from google, even if you have been up and coming with this update some could argue when they got it before you dropped this update you falsely advertised even if as void has stated time and time its miniscule the bank can still deny said charge back if they dont see it as false advertising . "False advertising can be grounds for a legitimate chargeback if a product or service doesn't match its advertised description. If a customer is misled by false or exaggerated claims in advertising, they can dispute the charge with their bank. Merchants should ensure accurate product descriptions and avoid misleading claims to prevent chargebacks. " Examples "This could include discrepancies between the advertised product and the actual product received, such as incorrect measurements, missing features, or misrepresented materials. " These changes would fall under Missing Features and Misrepresented Materials

[surreal blade]

They could have compromise with the changes I said still would have fit the game instead of giving them clean underwear

[fiery ether]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[pseudo crow]

Saiga-12, will it be available in the future?

[lost parrot]

Unbothered truly

[pseudo crow]

The port does indeed have it.

[surreal blade]

Please add the funny red arm to one of the veterans

[rigid bone]

Please don't use any sort of AI for legal advice.

That being said, for the point of 'These changes would fall under Missing Features and Misrepresented Materials', none of that applies to the game even in the most broad of classifications.

We're still a gritty and realistic depiction of the realities of policing, that, in a legal sense has not changed.

[rigid bone]

I see you too are a VOTOMS fan

https://preview.redd.it/gm-spartan-rg-votoms-red-shoulder-custom-inspired-colors-v0-gqca306mh9ab1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=94346a2fab6416428f8bee21986dbad5cde836cd

Funny red arm

[unreal quiver]

They already did the best they did. They can't turn back now.

[livid quarry]

yo

[rigid bone]

Likely never

[fringe scroll]

[surreal blade]

Kam- sorry to ruin it but it was supposed to be a mgs reference;-;

[lost parrot]

That robo has a gatling on his side what a killer

[pseudo crow]

Why

[fathom axle]

All is needed is to leave the pc version as is keep it dark and gritty and censor for the console players for Sony and Microsoft you can have your cake and eat it too. Since where sliding down this slippery slope of censorship are we gonna goo back and sensor it for the Chinese market next. you might as well because if you bend a little might as well go all the way.

[mental dune]

before i spread missinfomation has movement speed ever been modifed?

[surreal blade]

Although I will check this out

[wide tusk]

its a generalized Summery, im sure a actual lawyer could prolly make a case for false advertisement I am not a lawyer so I use Gunny Google. If people wanna go for a refund its their choice I just wish void would offer those long time backers refunds

[lost parrot]

So real lol

[tepid peak]

anyome know what the countdown is now

[normal river]

When implementing a new gun, do you buy the permission and 3D Data from the real life manifacturer or do you scan the guns yourself or do you model them after pictures and videos etc.?

[surreal blade]

They can still change it in further updates no what im pissed about is still no light and laser combo or attachment overhaul like they said they would implement on the last dark waters dev blog and no mention of it at all

[lost parrot]

10 days I think ?

[wide tusk]

another long list of promises that will either go forgotten about or abandoned, just like the ability for snipers, ladders, shutting power off to buildings and PVP

[unreal quiver]

Who knows. Maybe they will add that in the future.

[surreal blade]

I yearn for the day that we can kill the power

[unreal quiver]

Wasn't that stuff in one of the early stages?

[pseudo crow]

I think PVP will definitely be released, but it won't be exactly the same as the old PVP.

[fiery ether]

PvP

[surreal blade]

Imagine sins of the father with all the lights off holy shit

[wide tusk]

It was but it was still promised and we have yet to see it or it was scrubbed/abandoned

[pseudo crow]

If the rules and objectives of PVP are set according to the map storyline, that might be the best choice.

[unreal quiver]

Sure.

[surreal blade]

Also as we were talking about censorship I open up instagram and get a post about someone talking about about ready or not getting censored lmao

They are listening to us THE USIA IS I FUCKING KNEW IT THESE PEOPLE

[fringe scroll]

That's what happens with games in early access. Some features stay and some don't

[fiery ether]

Algorithms tend to work like that...

[wide tusk]

Its cause its a hot topic I mean type Ready or Not in youtube

[unreal quiver]

Exactly. I wanted to say that but I knew he wouldn't listen.

[lost parrot]

Hot topic for a peak game OHHHHHH

[surreal blade]

Also it’s crazy that the USIA actually existed at one point under the same name

[mental dune]

another example is movement speed. we have told void that the movement speed is a touch on the slow side yet i dont think anything has been done about that.

[surreal blade]

I’m sniffing you

[lost parrot]

WHAT

[unreal quiver]

Yeah and if you do your gonna see a lot of crazy false info and everyone just ramdomely saying Ready Or Not is going "woke".

[surreal blade]

You smell like CLP and gunpowder

[wide tusk]

I never said they dint but then they should not promise said features if they have ZERO intention to release them, now I could be wrong here and Kaminsky can correct me if I am wrong but those features minus PVP have never been said they were dropped in any of the dev blogs in either this or the NDA Discord as far as im aware

[surreal blade]

Mrowww :3

[upbeat spindle]

i just shot a suspect with a beanbag, he somehow died (not headshot) and when i put on the cuffs he went back to life LOL

[pseudo crow]

That's right, the sniper has completely disappeared.

[wide tusk]

Not really alot of the ones I have seen seem to be pretty accurate to what void put out and people giving opinions on the situation. Just make sure its a reliable Content Creator

[unreal quiver]

Bruh. Most of these features \promises were in the early stages of the game. Do you know much cut content there is when a game is fully finished

[fiery ether]

They can fake death

[upbeat spindle]

WHAT

[surreal blade]

They get knocked out and when you cuff them they get back up same thing when they get knocked out by a c2 charge pretty funny lol

[wide tusk]

I am 100% aware they still should not make those promises then if they are not sure if they will work out or not

[surreal blade]

They also do that so make sure to put an extra round in them- mean cuff them

[upbeat spindle]

oh yea, right... Cuff them...

[unreal quiver]

Some of say false info and say the same dumb stuff as they said in there last video such as this one YouTuber called Vara Dark or whatever her name is.

[unreal quiver]

Early stages. Boo hoo.

[mental dune]

i dont think anything from the beta or alpha has been promised to be returning. some features were promised to be in the full release during early access that never made the cut

[fiery ether]

I don't think so, if they are incapacitated they stay unconscious. Different scoring then if you arrest them and they are conscious

[normal river]

Maybe as a future DLC

[pseudo crow]

They even deleted the Halligan tool.

[mental dune]

hell some of the cut content that was promised is still in the game files. I have thought about attempting to get them working again

[fiery ether]

Yeah if you didn't cuff them they'd likely get up and go find a weapon after you left

[upbeat spindle]

I meant that THEY CAN PLAY DEAD?!?!

[mental dune]

now this is a good promise they have given us. nothing from the beta will be sold as dlc

if they break that one the game is finished. no one will trust or support void

[rigid bone]

That's a promise we haven't broken yet and we don't intend to.

[wide tusk]

Kinda toxic but sure I guess, I am talking about actual people who have played the game I typically consider BigFry, Sixtyatewhiskey and a few others response able with what they put out

[fringe scroll]

Yea, you can knock them out with c2 charges as well. They're appear dead, but once you cuff (or leave them be long enough) they get up

[wide tusk]

I dont either

[upbeat spindle]

Damn... That's probably how i died that one time when i barely started lol. used a c2 charge then i got flanked

[surreal blade]

Good Kam :3 oh that’s why you make all the weapons free

[unreal quiver]

I actually agree with you with YouTubers such as Sixyatewhiskey since I actually watch em.

[pseudo crow]

Six Days in Fallujah is just the soldier version of RON.

[surreal blade]

I love that masked handsome cop man

[rigid bone]

Yarp. Some of the weapons we've brought back were present in old versions, like the new Launcher

[unreal quiver]

Its these small YouTubers that be making up BS about Voids censorship update.

[mental dune]

i trust that void will not go back on this anytime soon.

[lost parrot]

God I want that launcher

[sacred elk]

I'm just hyped about the non-lethal pistol

[surreal blade]

Any chance we’ll see the 2011/1911 come back from the alpha?

[pseudo crow]

So will the M16 make a comeback?

[lost parrot]

That as well

[surreal blade]

Or beta I forgot

[sacred elk]

less-lethal sorry

[brisk yoke]

im feeling silly time to ping my best friend @lilac vale

[mental dune]

isnt the m1911 currently in the game?

[rigid bone]

It's a different 1911

[surreal blade]

No it’s a different from the beta looked cooler

[lilac vale]

https://tenor.com/view/milk-and-mocha-milk-mocha-milk-mocha-bear-milk-bear-mocha-bear-gif-7270252476476520589

[sacred elk]

little elite defender typa thing

[lilac vale]

My Boss

fav person

[lost parrot]

Isn't it the 2011 bc its a more modern version of the 1911

[surreal blade]

I want it also give us more pistols please and more shotguns as have like 4 or 5 in the game rn

[sacred elk]

so will the sidearm less-lethal pistol be viable? or will it be gimmicky

[mental dune]

well all i want is a p226

[sacred elk]

I crave the USP

[lost parrot]

I think for s ranking missions people might love it but I've heard alot of people like beanbag shotty for its more reliable outcomes lmao

[sacred elk]

I don't really care for S rank really, I enjoy just running the same map 20 times with different setups

[fringe scroll]

Pepperball pistol will finally solve the issue of doing s rank with ai swat. No more empty handgun loadouts

[sacred elk]

I only really use the sidearm if I extra hate an enemy

[mental dune]

i dont see a need for the sidearm in this game for some reason. i gues because if you dont have your rifle up, your already dead

@rigid bone is the head slap arrest animation still in the game?

[dusk vigil]

I keep a five seven with one magazine juuust in case, but unless you’re using the shield yeah sidearms are pretty useless

[gloomy cedar]

I mean we always can use Mods to fix the game but its annoying because its always outdated because of updates and DLCs.

[ivory wave]

Well.... I am still going to play RoN no matter what. I am just excited for it.

[sacred elk]

all lockpick gun run

[dusk vigil]

My poor old modpack

[unreal quiver]

Me too.

[dusk vigil]

That shit becoming obsolete was like the Library of Alexandria for me

[mental dune]

extended weapons cache? what maps is that going to be on? are we going to be able to stop them from using them by taging them as evidence?

[fiery ether]

Isnt that already in the newest dlc?

[mental dune]

i think so but i dont know how the system works

[ivory wave]

New weapons?

[fiery ether]

Oh ok, yeah it is in Dark Waters. Might only be one map. They have gun crates to get new weapons from that you have to seal

[mental dune]

dont get me wrong but i dont actually see anything that is going to solve the ai issues. im going to read more of the dev blogs but a dififculty slider isnt going to fix anything or make the ai less cracked. Casual deal with the current ai, normal deals with the new systems in dark waters and hard is insanity .

[digital cobalt]

Do y'all prefer the gas mask or face shield?

[mental dune]

i run the gas mask because i run gas. flash just isnt as effective

[ivory wave]

Gas mask.

[fiery ether]

If you play MP, flash goggles and ballistic mask. You'll get desync flashed at least once

[ionic pagoda]

i just loaded into lethal obsession on iron man mode walked 3 feet and some guy just instantly melted me

[ivory wave]

That is badass.

[ionic pagoda]

lmao i didnt know he had navy seal guys in the house now

[mental dune]

im looking at vol 82 and i wanna see how dorms was made because you could quite easly see the issues with the map if they did the same process as the other two maps

[ivory wave]

Dorms look scary.... I am watching gameplay of it. lol

[runic aspen]

so like the changes are final and they won’t listen to both communities? should i really cancel?

[unreal quiver]

Cancel for what? Yes the changes are final.

What changes are you speaking of?

[runic aspen]

idk bro, kinda don’t wanna support hypocrites

[unreal quiver]

I see. Another sheep.

[ivory wave]

Do what you feel...

[mental dune]

it is, the brief says inexperienced homeless squatters but we get the ss with aks iirc. its not a fun map nor is it a good looking map. crazy dark which wouldnt be bad if the lighting system didnt keep you in the dark on a dark map.

give us a bon fire or a battery torch. some signs of them living not in total darkness

[runic aspen]

i feel like there is 0 to none proper tactical shooters on consoles so im kinda trapped here

[unreal quiver]

Are you not able to look past all the controversy and still like the game play? Sheep?

[mental dune]

the changes do not effect gameplay, it effects how i view void and i cannot recommend the game. they short of have to cook with this update to regain my trust.

[ivory wave]

I wouldn't cancel...That is just me.

[unreal quiver]

The game will still be fun. There is no need to cancel the pre order.

[unreal quiver]

Do you whine and blame Void for everything?

[ivory wave]

I am going to try the Dorms when I unlock it lol.

[runic aspen]

im pretty sure mechanics wise its gonna stay top notch, i just hate to see layers of initial grittiness removed which kinda ruins initial philosophy and takes the atmosphere on a lower levels

[fiery ether]

Then don't, no one is making you

[twin venture]

There was a hurricane that went through. Maybe the power got knocked out?

[thin schooner]

Do you work for void dude

[unreal quiver]

Do you know the specific details that are being censored?

[ivory wave]

Sony and Xbox plays a part of the blame, but Void can only do so much.

[unreal quiver]

I know. Thats why I asked em if he blames Void for everything.

[mental dune]

all i have to say is i was around during the radio silance of adam and 1.0. they failed a lot of us in the past. Bugs that havent been fixed. promises left broken. Ai that still hasnt been fixed.

[thin schooner]

I agree that it’s not just voids fault but their way of implementing the update is pretty terrible

[twin venture]

They only changed very specific models. It’s literally just imagery.

[thin schooner]

Iike the girls in the crate not getting rags like they said is pretty shitty

[ivory wave]

I agree and hear you on that.

[runic aspen]

yea, watched a bunch of vids and i know they are minor, but that still opposes initial Void position

[thin schooner]

It’s one of the most impactful moments in the game that said though void also can’t do a ton

[fiery ether]

If the changes, that they've already shared (check pins) make you not want to buy, then don't buy. If you still want to buy, then buy. You wanna leave an angry review do that too if you want.
Console is happening, make your own decision accordingly

[unreal quiver]

Void had to comply with Sony, Microsoft, ESRB, multiple rating boards just to put it on console

@twin venture I know. Say that to te other guy.

[spare summit]

What exactly do my customers gain from randomly throwing a pair of underwear out of its packaging onto a shelf

[ivory wave]

💯

[unreal quiver]

If your gonna bring up this annoying "But its Voids principle" BS argument then you have your answer. Don't get the game.

[twin venture]

Oh I atted the wrong person lol

Yeah I read the notes so like, I have no surprises here.

[tiny kraken]

If we can get an option to turn off cross play and keep the non censored version I wouldn't care about this

[crystal rampart]

comply all they want, just make a PC build seperate... and opt-in for crossplay

[spare summit]

I’ve said it a million times, I get the frustration and understand but the changes are minor enough that I don’t think they ruin the game

[unreal quiver]

Well they didn't do that so boo hoo.

[crystal rampart]

boo hoo is right so they are getting bashed for it not difficult concept

[spare summit]

Hopefully the console version makes them enough money that they can more easily do that
Or maybe PC could get a PC-exclusive free dlc with the uncensored maps seperate

[twin venture]

The game is going to play the same. I have 250 hours in the game. I’ll keep playing it. Like, they’re not pulling a Smite 2 over here.

[ivory wave]

Hard to do... Will conflict with two versions.

[thin schooner]

I don’t think it would be a major deal if they truly just made the changes more realistic or different like the girl sleeping on the bed will be nowhere near as impactful

[unreal quiver]

Do you think you would have donw better? Be honest.

[crystal rampart]

Console versions will never get the same amount of players than on PC the game simply does not appeal to the masses

[fiery ether]

There isn't a no crossplay switch. If that makes you not want to buy, then don't buy. If it makes you want try and get a refund go request one on steam.
But "suggesting" something they already gave reasons why they won't be doing is just wasted time

[clever dew]

Guys, can someone help me make my ron playable? I just can't play because the fps drops all the time

[thin schooner]

Do you think you can stop riding void for one second and have a discussion

[sleek root]

what's up?

[unreal quiver]

How am I riding them?

[runic aspen]

yea they are shooting their own leg which is fckn ironic considering its tactical shooter

[unkempt lotus]

There’s talk of PC users wanting to grief console users because “consoles ruined the game”

[crystal rampart]

I mean mods exist I really don't care. But lets not pretend it couldn't have been handled better

[thin schooner]

You are literally defending them with your life and not able to see they are making mistakes to and some of this is there fault

[clever dew]

So friend, I have a notebook with an rtx 3060, 10th i5 and 16gb of ram, and I can't keep fps stable in any graphics configuration, without the fps dropping sharply and freezing temporarily

[runic aspen]

most of the changes dont make sense, just reminding yall Sony showed us how to joel ppl which is kinda most traumatic shit ever

[ivory wave]

Well I am just going to play it and enjoy it...

[mental dune]

its a condemed building, i doubt it had power before the hurricane hit. The issues i have with the level is how dark the building is, the amount of open sight lines that allow the ai to see us without us seeing them and how the inexperienced homeless are sitting there heavily armed waiting for us.

[spare summit]

So all these “the game is RUINED I’m NEVER PLAYING AGAIN” people are just gonna keep playing the game? Unsurprising

[unreal quiver]

I defend them because you have everyone hating them as if kt there fault. Not everything is Voids fault. Some people don't even know whats fully going on and just hate just to hate.

It doesn't matter how many times Void tries to defend itself yall just act so annoying, arrogant, and ignorant.

[crystal rampart]

Future in the works conent being changed and alter is one thing, they did that I supported them back then but it happened anyways. But what they are changing is so inconsequential why even go the lengths to do it when you could just make it a opt-in feature because there will always be a PC build anyways.

[spare summit]

I’ve said it a billion times, but get mad at Sony and Microsoft, not Void

[crystal rampart]

or just no crossplay because who really plays this game with pubs

[fiery ether]

Almost like the devs directly answered this question (read the pins)

[thin schooner]

Yeah it’s not just voids fault but it’s not like they aren’t doing anything wrong here I agree the hate is over the top but you also have to see that they are doing things wrong and causing some of the backlash

[unkempt lotus]

I just think everyone needs to calm down. Some people are acting like it’s the end of the world. It’s a video game.

[ivory wave]

Yeah... What I came too.

[twin venture]

True I don’t like all the cracks in the walls but the briefing says that there are two known drug dealers in there that are armed. There’s a few others like a local drunk and an ex marine or something. All small time people that LSPD has run into before.

[spare summit]

Agreed
Like I get it, censorship sucks but

[mental dune]

watch them put an ammo crate in that level

[thin schooner]

You right darth Vader it sucks but the game will still be great

[ivory wave]

Yeah... I agree.

[unreal quiver]

Please explain to me the things they are doing that you consider wrong and I will explain everything.

[spare summit]

I think some backlash is warranted
But it should be constructive and not volatile, hostile, insulting or overly emotional

[mental dune]

i think a lot of us are taking it as a chance to really tell void we are fed up with how the game is being handled. i know i would play the game a lot more if there was more regular patches

[spare summit]

I think that’s totally fair and we do need more regular patches

[fading wind]

Its nowhere close to as bad as Bungie "vaulting" paid narrative content 2 years after launch to make room for more paid expansions, but making the base game free

[twin venture]

They don’t need one. If they run after dropping their guns they’ll just run around the house and stab you with a knife you didn’t know they had lol

[topaz wing]

Ima play till I can’t mod the game. I won’t be playing base game from now on tho. Way to sell out on your pc community that got you where you are. Rate the game above M and don’t let kids play it? They shouldn’t be shooting shit in a realism shooter anyway if we are keeping it a buck.

[unkempt lotus]

I’ve seen threats and insults being thrown at people because of this, censorship sucks yes, but we can’t just become animals because of this, we’re better than this.

[ivory wave]

Lol yeah.

[mental dune]

well all suspects spawn with one on that map. only 1 of them have a random chance of not spawning with a gun iirc

[spare summit]

Exactly

[twin venture]

This is also a good example

[spare summit]

I think we’re lucky elephant, neon tomb, and valley are still gonna be here

[topaz wing]

Making drawbacks in the game but have yet to implement things they’ve talked about and promised for what a year now?

[halcyon ridge]

is it really that hard to show a different skin to a different player

[unkempt lotus]

The stories and subplots are all still there so I’m not really upset

[topaz wing]

No. They sold out.
Daddy said jump and they asked “how high?”

[halcyon ridge]

like just console player has clothes pc player has no clothes cause I mean so many games do that

[fading wind]

The most irritating part of that, to me, is that its not even guaranteed to come back. I know we're never getting the Red War back

[thin schooner]

Ok I will so firstly we we’re originally told the girls in the shipping container would be wearing rags which they then swapped to a lazier alternative secondly they have poorly maintained there game for a while with constant bugs so that’s a worry third the girl sleeping and no longer convulsing is the wordt decision of all because it conveys no emotion and really ruins that level thirdly I think they have the major problem of poor press as they didn’t convey what was being changed and how it would be from the start