💬general-discussion

[lavish owl]

Games outta beta right?

[latent hound]

yeah and the ai were using esp

[lavish owl]

I was playing most of the beta

[latent hound]

i wonder how much money has void made off of ready or not

def millions

[lavish owl]

Lemme check stats

[latent hound]

stats?

Ready or Not revenue reached over $170 million on Steam.

or more

concord is dead

only 660 max people

wow this is sad prob one of the most expensive failure in history

[lavish owl]

Yeah I was just about to do math to determine how much revenue it has made

Yeah I love the game tho once I get my new PC imma download

It has a mostly 86% positive rating

[latent hound]

ready or not?

[lavish owl]

Yeah

[latent hound]

oh i thought you were talking bout concord for a sec

[lavish owl]

Nooo

[latent hound]

you got me scared af

[lavish owl]

Lol sorry

[latent hound]

👌

[shrewd pebble]

where the puppy dogs at

[latent hound]

[shrewd pebble]

hello

[compact lotus]

Concord sounds familiar but i dont remember what that is

[shrewd pebble]

it had destiny 2 guns, and maps essentially, just pvp hero shooter

[rigid bone]

Aggressively mid

[hazy dew]

Was concord the one with that misleading trailer?

[shrewd pebble]

dont think so?

[crude lake]

First they burned the Battle Royale genre.
Now they burn the MOBA genre.
And they burn the extraction genre.

Thank god 🙏

[rigid bone]

Please don't kill extract shooters

I still want a good one that's not Tarkov

[shrewd pebble]

hop on the division

[rigid bone]

I said a GOOD one

I don't think I stuttered

[shrewd pebble]

true division 1 is kinda mid, div 2 is better but the pvp area is so tiny its mid

[crude lake]

I think the Delta Force one seems pretty good-ish.

[rigid bone]

It feels like Arena Breakouts formula except competently developed.

some of the customization makes no sense though

[shrewd pebble]

bf2042 but with a good netcode to me

[rigid bone]

Honestly yeah, I've been having more fun with the Battlefield mode

[crude lake]

The time i spent in Delta Force so far, i dont see as "wasted". So thats a good sign

[rich tendon]

[hazy dew]

div2 was good until they delayed the content too long

[shrewd pebble]

yeah

[shrewd pebble]

awesome

[hazy dew]

like it actually made me mad that they recycled the same stuff over and over again just to release some of the new stuff they promised. thats what killed the game for me and i was already playing on the hardest with max modifiers

[shrewd pebble]

i dont like how rag tag the JTF is in div 2, it makes NO sense why they all wear flipflops and random ass gear

div 2 is such a better game but jesus christ the story is so mid

[rich tendon]

the grind for high level stuff sucks

[shrewd pebble]

had alot of fun doin the white tusk? i think thats what theyre called, missions

[sage needle]

Any of you have played Deus ex ?

[shrewd pebble]

which of them

[sage needle]

whoever

[shrewd pebble]

no i mean which deus ex game

[sage needle]

Human revolution

[shrewd pebble]

its peak

[sage needle]

It's rare to find people who have played it

[shrewd pebble]

i replayed it a million times in as many ways as you possibly can, mankind divided is really good but its just short, and desperately needs a continuation

[sage needle]

100% in my 360 hard in some ways

[sage needle]

Human revolution it's just completed

[hazy dew]

why do people automatically join and leave suddenly? is it a mod breaking their loading?

[modest fern]

If you have mods, it could be a mod you have and they don't.

[hazy dew]

like gunfighter?

or would the most likely be gun mods?

[modest fern]

I've heard of the more slots part of gunfighter breaking people, or more slot mods in general

Idk if it's true though.

[hazy dew]

ooooh

well cant hurt to try

well wasnt the player limit so maybe its gunfighter

[finite sapphire]

If I download maps, should they appear when I enter to play the campaign in solo mode?

[pine portal]

i deleted all my mods but it still says corrupt files

[hazy dew]

anyone else having mod troubles? keep getting the issue of players not being able to join me

[runic aspen]

w

[sage needle]

Fix the archives

[median zinc]

wish there was a meta for s rank in single player that wasnt just turning the whole map into a gas chamber

[hazy dew]

wish people believed in strategy besides just gasing the entire map.

[green tusk]

It is very effective. Especially since players can see through partially, while suspects cannot if the cloud is thick enough

Combine that with good tactics and most maps are easy

And it lingers, so suspects can walk into it after the fact

And it goes through walls partially, so all around goated

[hazy dew]

sure its effective just like running flashes or stingers doesnt just have to be gas 24/7 it makes the playthrough so dull after getting all A+s on maps

[green tusk]

A valid point

[lavish owl]

there was one i havent tried but want to its called crowz

[rigid bone]

It uh. It wasn't good.

[lavish owl]

dang\

[rigid bone]

It was so bad I think they ended up removing it from Steam after like 8 months

[buoyant jolt]

Super 90 supremacy

I do like the new touch of not having to secure the dude with a missing head lol

[shrewd pebble]

did they remember to disable server checkside sum

[simple turret]

sea of thieves

[modest fern]

Ready or Not is an extraction game

You enter an arena and extract civilians and evidence

[hazy dew]

OR NOT

[rigid bone]

That's a whole different thing

[simple turret]

the only thing its missing is inventory tetris (the worst part of every extraction shooter )

[mortal trench]

extracting femboy toc

[rigid bone]

Provably incorrect. Having to play constant cost-benefit analysis while keeping an eye on your surroundings is part of the experience.

[simple turret]

thats what sot is entirely about. it literally keeps the good parts of extraction shooters (risk/reward, awareness being key, and the joys of killing people to take their stuff) while leaving the boring parts (playing tetris). the main gameplay loop is definitely extraction shooter-like

you wouldnt know that looking at their marketing though, they list the game as a silly story pirate game which is why so many people play it, get dunked on and lose all their stuff, then uninstall it

[modest fern]

Having to put a chest on the tip of your ship or it'll burn it down otherwise

[simple turret]

the crying one is more annoying since you have to have someone sit on a ladder or be constantly bucketing

[lilac vale]

Old pfp better.

[modest fern]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-cry-about-it-meme-gif-20184012

[lilac vale]

I already am

[buoyant jolt]

I thought they were extra targets

[modest fern]

should've clarified that it's an extraction shooter for some players

[buoyant jolt]

I'm extracting

[lofty hornet]

i have a question

can anyone tell me who's dog this is?

[lilac vale]

wtf

[lofty hornet]

you've seen it many times before dude

its like a mix between a stuffed animal and an actual dog

[lilac vale]

We might never know

[paper bane]

Might try make ready or not mod

[hollow raven]

hey can i ask a quick question?

[green tusk]

Yes

[candid herald]

Yeees

[runic aspen]

SKIBIDI

[opal dagger]

How come there is only one person who connects void to the community if you get what I mean?

[spiral tree]

skibidi toilet

[sage needle]

Skibidi

[pliant briar]

do you need more?

[opal dagger]

😂😂 bet the harassment is crazy tbf

[stable silo]

i’d refrain from using key sites

most of the keys are stolen, the sites are shady and you shouldn’t trust your information to them, and oftentimes the keys are bunk and they don’t offer refunds

[pliant briar]

no, most of them aren't stolen

[stable silo]

when i say stolen i mean a combination of the keys being stolen, and the keys being bought with stolen information

[pliant briar]

either way that's still not most of them

not everyone uses it, me included (in fact it's the first time i'm hearing about it)

[short glen]

id rather have a stolen key for 20 then pay 40

[pliant briar]

i'd rather just pirate, which is generally the lesser evil (or even beneficial) in the gaming industry (compared to 3d party markets)

[rigid bone]

Don't encourage thieves and people that abuse the system

[stable silo]

real, based, common kaminsky w

[pliant briar]

damn these content creators

[plain escarp]

O hai.

Deaf gamer of like... 25 years here. My earliest tactical sim game was SWAT 3.

And I just finished the Training course in RoN, and I find it...quite fuckin' familiar.

[waxen latch]

dont see a need for 6 community managers

not gonna make the game better or worse

[pliant briar]

didn't know ingame guns can make your deaf

[plain escarp]

I was born Deaf, bub

And the ironic thing is, the guns in SWAT 3/4 weren't as loud as Ready or Not's

[stable silo]

this guy might be wolverine

[plain escarp]

But as someone who's been to the range with his own firearms, it's accurate. 10/10

[opal dagger]

Fair enough, bet you've had to put up with some mad stuff

[rigid bone]

You have no idea

[opal dagger]

Can only imagine what some people are like

[plain escarp]

My favorite thing to do in SWAT 4 is using C2 to knock out suspects behind doors. :p

And I'm sure someone here likes doing that, too.

[waxen latch]

Fortunately i dont, cause its not my job

[pliant briar]

how's your daily dose of "your game sucks"?

[stable silo]

☝️🙂

i like doing that

[opal dagger]

Always wanted to RKO a suspect

[plain escarp]

Do they scream when it happens? 'cause it's hard to tell

[stable silo]

yeah well the explosion kind of masks any noises they’d be making

[plain escarp]

Heh.

[stable silo]

it’s kind of annoying that 99% of the time the suspect is playing dead when they get the door blown on them

[plain escarp]

Well, I'm probably going to want to get eased into this gentle like, since it's been what...10 years since I last played any SWAT game

[rigid bone]

Honestly don't get too much of that

[opal dagger]

Don't think they have chance

[plain escarp]

lol. By the way, where do I find the armory? I wanna customize my loadouts a bit

[waxen latch]

armory

[plain escarp]

Yeah, just not finding it, I'm at the locker room

[rigid bone]

If you walk through the briefing room, there'll be a locker to your front right and a table to your front left. You can customize at both of those.

[stable silo]

the customize character screen has a tab at the top left where you can switch to loadout

[plain escarp]

Ah! Found it. Thanks.

I've found favor with bulpup rifles, so I can't really stand any of the AR-pattern ones

[rigid bone]

SA58 is supreme

[plain escarp]

How so?

[rigid bone]

Because battle rifles will always be the proper answer to just about any situation. Basically infinate stopping power. :>

[pliant briar]

obnoxiously big recoil, hard to do follow up shots, smaller mag. as just said, supreme

[stable silo]

dont take this the wrong way but you type just like your profile picture would the churchill v is a perfect match for you

[plain escarp]

The F90 is an australian battle rifle, though?

[plain escarp]

That's kind of the idea.

[pliant briar]

definitely not a battle rifle

[plain escarp]

I notice that it doesn't mention what caliber it's chambered in, in RoN.

[stable silo]

does 300 bk still have amazing armour pen for no reason?

[formal matrix]

its still rlly good

i fw it heavy

[pliant briar]

there's a reason, 300 blk is the only caliber you should use in this game

and it's not subsonic btw

[stable silo]

👎👎👎

[opal dagger]

Thanks for the free game guys 😉

Epic embed fail

[stable silo]

couldn’t post the gif so you had to type it out 😭

[opal dagger]

Exactly 😭

[plain escarp]

I opened a lobby and am in the HQ, trying to find the shooting range so I can try to get more familiar with the pew pew

[opal dagger]

there's one in the HQ if you look about

[plain escarp]

Hmm

I only see the tactical training room with the halls and doors

But no proper range?

[stable silo]

are you in commander mode or practise mode?

[pliant briar]

quick play*

[stable silo]

ah

[plain escarp]

Was in a lobby, since I couldn't find the right modes

[stable silo]

go to the main lobby the range is to the right of the front desk

[plain escarp]

I'm not playing any specific campaigns

[pliant briar]

there's no campaign

[plain escarp]

Ah I see the range now, thanks

[pliant briar]

iirc some rooms in the lobby unlock as you progress through the missions

[plain escarp]

I see.

Are all the missions multiplayer capable and your progress updates as you do MP or you have to do SP separately?

[pliant briar]

multiplayer has all maps unlocked

but the lobby still has some differences depending on what missions you've actually played

not sure if multiplayer has all the rooms unlocked by default though

ron doesn't really have a way of explaining how the ingame mechanics work

but i suppose if people praise elden ring for its exploration mechanics, this one in ron is just as good

[plain escarp]

Well, anyone wanna roll with me in RoN for my first-ever mission? I'd like to get my boots wet again.

[pliant briar]

#🔎looking-for-players

and keep in mind this game is nothing like swat

it's mostly shooting suspects because they will simply never surrender

[plain escarp]

Most won't, I've noticed

[pliant briar]

unless you spam tacticals

which is boring, why should i have to throw pokeballs at suspects?

[plain escarp]

A flashbang usually helps, but when you're in close proximity, I've noticed on some Twitch stream sthat they rarely give you the opportunity to do without getting shot at

So really, it's pretty clear that the devs for RoN needs to work on their character profile mechanics - which was something SWAT 3 and 4 had down pat

[pliant briar]

the hesitation animation is also notoriously annoying, as it's just a waiting game until they start blasting

[plain escarp]

The hesitation animation is way too problematic

If the gun is up and ready to go, I'm not wasting time, even if it gets me an infraction

[next acorn]

asfsgssdfsdui I shot a civi being held hostage and my teammate AI kill me 😭?

why void interactive, why is the AI so insufferable

[pliant briar]

which is why unironically less than lethal weapons have the most stopping power (to surrender) without fucking with the RoE (which is already VERY loose)

since you can spam them with rarely having to worry about upsetting TOC

[plain escarp]

I mean. Have you ever felt what it was like to get hit by a beanbag from a shotgun?

[next acorn]

they still require to scream for compliant which does suck

isnt the point of less lethal is to dome someone and be discrete

and they wont die

[glossy quiver]

can someone pretty please buy the game

my friends said it was really fun and I should get it but i bought them all games and they refuse to buy me games in return

[pliant briar]

i can read the rules for you

[peak orbit]

read them

[glossy quiver]

I did

[peak orbit]

what is it

https://tenor.com/view/pig-sexy-pig-sexy-fat-bikini-sexy-back-gif-12315959

[glossy quiver]

Im not pirating the game

cause thats no good

[waxen latch]

the other rule

[peak orbit]

uwu

[pliant briar]

the one that says "you're obliged to post or see a car at least once a day"?

[glossy quiver]

waoh

did YOU read the rules BUDDY

[peak orbit]

yes

[glossy quiver]

But I'm not tho

Im gonna tell on you

only if you buy me the game

whyd you mute him?

[plain escarp]

Just wen tpubbing

and it was at the post office. Got my ass whupped, lol. I did take down three suspects, though.

Wow. Hell of a memorable moment just now

At the gas station, I was making my way through backing up the squad lead

and I saw a suspect grabbing a hostage in the diner area, and aiming his gun over the hostage at us

[olive stone]

Is this supposed to come out on console

[plain escarp]

I just put a round through his face, and I was worried I'd hit the hostage, too.

[olive stone]

I heard some rumors but nothing official

[serene magnet]

Hey, I know you guys probably get this alot but I'm REALLY trying to play this game but it feels like the AI has cheats...

[plain escarp]

Void has acknowledged the AI has problems

And they are probably working on dialing it and making it scaleable for difficulty.

[serene magnet]

It feels like if they see a pixle of me they lock on and spray at me until I die

[plain escarp]

Yes, that's the main issue I've noticed

[serene magnet]

And it also feels like recoil doesnt affect them what-so-ever

Is there anyway I can tweak the AI so it doesnt play like it has cybernetic super eyes

[plain escarp]

Nope, that was Void's first and biggest mistake, lol

[lofty hornet]

[shadow shard]

Did you buy them games with the expectation that they would buy games for you in return?

[runic aspen]

Dont buy them games like that lol. Friends or not they can manage on their own

Unless it’s their birthday or sum

[mortal trench]

your first mistake was expecting something back

[shadow shard]

Precisely. You don't buy people shit with the expectation that it will be a transaction without explicitly discussing everything beforehand. And even then, you can hardly trust people to do it anyway.

[pseudo moat]

ging ging gang gung gang gung ging ging?

[coral halo]

Use steel armor.

[deft gorge]

still up for debate i’m pretty sure, but there’s a whole lot of buttons to press, that i’m not sure if it’d even be possible on a controller

[shadow shard]

but it feels like the AI has cheats...
It's almost as if AI needs to be developed in a way that feels fair to players instead of relying on in-game data alone.

[mortal trench]

what if ai but smart ^-^

[serene magnet]

Which is better? .300 or 5.56?

[lofty hornet]

.300

[plain escarp]

Almost always .300 blackout, it seems

[lofty hornet]

depends on where you use it and what weapon

[plain escarp]

It is a heavy competitor to the .308/7.76

[lofty hornet]

i take the 7.62mm over the 5.56 any day

[slim zephyr]

Hi

[latent kindle]

hello

[livid depot]

add melee executions

i want to execute someone Call of Duty style infront of a civilian

[latent kindle]

you know a fix to the game getting stuck at 100 procent loading time?

[livid depot]

no i dont know how to do that

[latent kindle]

can i talk with a mod here?

[livid depot]

yeah but im not a mod mods are green

[latent kindle]

so annoying this has been a bug since 2 years ago

[runic aspen]

my game stuck at 100% loading as same as you

i dont know what can i do

and now if i try uninstalling the game, it doesn´t let me

.......

[latent kindle]

i just got the game bought yesterday and then i instantly get bug rip

ive tried everything for 2 hours

[eternal flume]

what bug is i

[latent kindle]

my game stuck at 100% loading

[plain escarp]

While in the lobby, my computer decided to switch itself off

Intereeeesting. Well, at least it's about time for bed anyway

I thought it might've fried something, but unplugging power entirely resolved the issue.

[zenith sonnet]

Which DirectX version that your game is running on?

[latent kindle]

12

[plain escarp]

Why are we still insisting on DirectX implementation when Vulkan is clearly superior?

[latent kindle]

thats also my laptop

[zenith sonnet]

Have you tried 11?

[latent kindle]

yes same thing

i even updated drives and all that

[eternal flume]

it isnt

you just gotta let it load trust me it takes a while depends what pc

[latent kindle]

i let it load for 10 min

[eternal flume]

well then thats a problem

have u tried loading it on directx 11

[latent kindle]

yes

[zenith sonnet]

Your game is vanilla, right?

[latent kindle]

yes

brand new

[eternal flume]

ive had this game for 2-3 years when it just came out and i had this problem once but it just fixed on its own

[latent kindle]

rip

can i tag mods?

[eternal flume]

you could but honestley they wont help

try go to proporties on the game and installed files and backup files

no wrong thing verify files

[latent kindle]

did alr

[eternal flume]

reinstall game?

[latent kindle]

its so annoying i just want to play tut

[eternal flume]

have u reinstalled the gaem?

[latent kindle]

nah ill try

[eternal flume]

that might work

[latent kindle]

why not

thats what they are supposed to do

and it wont let me uninstall

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-cat-sovicat-soviet-ussr-cat-gif-21826197

bruh

[eternal flume]

WYM IT WONT LET U UNINSTALL

[latent kindle]

i think im cursed by thgis game

[eternal flume]

thats acc weird

it wont let you uninstall

[latent kindle]

i reinstall now

30 min thanks wifi

[eternal flume]

alright

[latent kindle]

Bruh

Still the screen

Freez

[dull kite]

braindead conversation led by a braindead bird

[latent kindle]

Well if you know a fix then help

[dull kite]

nope im here to observe the braindead

[latent kindle]

?

[dull kite]

its not a help channel isit

[latent kindle]

Why does tgat matter

I also asked there

[dull kite]

do you put your shoes on your table?

do you store utensils on a laundry machine?

[latent kindle]

Bruh

What’s the reason of you saying this?

[dull kite]

does it need to have a reason

[latent kindle]

I’m just tryna fix my game

[dull kite]

odd question for a braindead bird

[latent kindle]

Okay👍

[runic aspen]

try installing it on a SSD disk

[rich tendon]

someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed

[harsh edge]

Skill issue @rich tendon

[lilac vale]

Or just woke up on the floor

[rich tendon]

real

[rich tendon]

wha

[mortal trench]

unreal

[rich tendon]

engine

[runic aspen]

5

[runic aspen]

SKIBIDI TOILET

[pseudo moat]

i didn't know they could talk?

[runic aspen]

I love u

[dry hatch]

Is DLSS still broken?

[zenith pawn]

any idea why the game lags so heavily every time me or my friend kill someone

it sucks it makes the game unplayable

[clever osprey]

Whats worse. Anxious or stressed lmao?

[north wedge]

What are your Computr specs

[zenith pawn]

gtx 1650

[north wedge]

With a hardwire right?

[north wedge]

Hard drive*

[lilac vale]

Both are the same thing

[north wedge]

That card struggles to run Tetris. No offense

[clever osprey]

Then why would it be in the game if its the same thing?

[zenith pawn]

i mean i can run every game fine otherwise

[clever osprey]

ANyone remember the button to point without using scope?

[zenith pawn]

from arma 3 to cod modern warfare

[north wedge]

This ain’t every other game pal

[lilac vale]

Same thing with why we have so many guns in game, they are the same thing. All guns do the same thing.

[north wedge]

Memory is f immense

[zenith pawn]

lmfao i cant be arsed with you

[north wedge]

I mean I’m being honest w you. I have a 6500 XT and it ran like shit

Now I have a 4070 and a lot less stress

[clever osprey]

Are you- What? But every gun is legit DIFFERENT, for different purposes, but yes, at the end to kill. But still different? So yes, obviously there is a difference in anxious and stressed..

[rich tendon]

Are you- What? But every gun is legit DIFFERENT, for different purposes, but yes, at the end to kill. But still different? So yes, obviously there is a difference in anxious and stressed..

[lilac vale]

A gun no matter what has the same purpose. It kills someone. So what. Anxious and stressed are basically the same thing. Stress is something that is short lived while Anxiety is something that impairs your QOL everyday for a long period of time

But both cause you to feel like shit

[rich tendon]

GAD gang rise up

[north wedge]

Write a book

[lilac vale]

Gang shit

[clever osprey]

Its just nice to know which one is to be taken more serious when contemplating which one to send to therapy if you only have one spot left

[lilac vale]

In the end it doesn’t matter, because the mental health system is ass. You’re better off just replacing once the therapist forces them to leave

[zenith pawn]

linkin park reference

[lilac vale]

[rich tendon]

real

[lilac vale]

You should change name to Vi

[rich tendon]

why

[lilac vale]

Like V and Vi sounds basically same so you can gaslight V into thinking he stole your name

[rich tendon]

[lilac vale]

That’s not the right Blonk, I need the stolen one

[rich tendon]

v has the stolen one

i have the original

[lilac vale]

Oh he stole it

[south bramble]

does somebody know when i try to open the game with directx11 or directx12 it pop ups a error message? Serialization Error: Action Needed Corrupt data found, please verigy your installation. if i enter with safe mode it works successfully

[rich tendon]

its because you have outdated mods installed

[south bramble]

thanks ^^ i will try unsuscribing all of them from the safe mode

[outer geyser]

Game is fixed or NO ?

[sinful forge]

No

[rich tendon]

ive never had issues with this game so

[prisma jetty]

point aim i think is O

[heady musk]

Is there an official release date for xbox

[fallen sail]

No

[deft gorge]

fixed from?

[deft gorge]

the chances of it coming onto console are incredibly low, but not zero i guess

[fallen sail]

I think it's only a matter of time really

[deft gorge]

i genuinely think there’s too many buttons for it to even work comfortably on a controller, otherwise you’d have to end up pressing like 5 different buttons like it’s a mortal kombat finisher

[crude lake]

Next time you load into a map, pay attention the very first 1-2 seconds and look at the HUD
You might change your opinion.

[next hollow]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[crude lake]

[next hollow]

i kinda guessed it was about controllers from the dpad

[short glen]

wwhat do i launch the game in

[runic aspen]

what grade counts as a pass?

[teal gulch]

Hey

[brisk yoke]

gort

[lime notch]

I wished ron had swat4 features like snipers, headcam command of AI etc

also non swat 4 feature but my fav

the drone

[trail sun]

so rainbow 6

[fallen sail]

I dont think the snipers are important at all, but i think being able to command your team through bodycam is a must

[unreal dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-hendry-tna-nxt-wrestling-gif-902011341684703089

[crude leaf]

snipers would be useful for scouting certain rooms more than anything. They were never great for actual shooting in swat 4 SEF because of ROE

always thought it would be neat if some maps let you pick where to put two sniper teams before you start

[vague gorge]

hey il y a des Français ??

[deft gorge]

having a sniper position would be cool, but i doubt every map would be able to have sniper positions

[lime notch]

no not the small one the flying drone bro

[fallen sail]

The question is when are you going to use it? At best it would be nice to have snipers notify you of potential threats like they did in SWAT 4, but you're never gonna stop dead in your tracks to control them

[deft gorge]

yeah that is true, it’s a cool concept but i think it’d just rarely ever be used

[lime notch]

don't you stop for a second to see the objective in your tablet

?

so it makes sense for snipers to be in the game

also I forgot about switching off lights

[crude leaf]

I always figured they could be automated. so you can toggle an order between scounting only and shooting hostile suspects

[lime notch]

devs can just rework lighting for 2 or 3 maps

for turning off lights like zero hour

[fallen sail]

Lining up shots isnt the same as stopping for 1 sec after the mission

[lime notch]

I know its hard for them to rework every maps lighting but maybe they can just rework a few maps lighting for the light switch

[runic aspen]

what grades do I need for swat '99?

[crude leaf]

you just need to finish all of the levels

[lime notch]

finish every level

[runic aspen]

what grades counts as a finish?

[lime notch]

well makese sense

[lime notch]

grades dont matter

[crude leaf]

Im not sure there is a grade needed for a finish
just get a grade on every level

[runic aspen]

alr thx

[crude leaf]

aslong as you survive and the mission ends as successful

[lime notch]

still I do want sniper weather you hate it or not I want em

[crude leaf]

the current suspect ai doesnt care about lighting. It could be completely pitch black and they will act the same as if it was full bright

[lime notch]

suspect with a hostage in a room? and a window conveantly place their? use the sniper to kill the sus

[fallen sail]

Its not about hating it it's about wanting a feature that doesn't work to work

[lime notch]

sorry

[crude leaf]

At the very least I just want some high ground voicelines that tell you about suspects in certain areas
like mentioning if a suspect passes the diner window on gas, or out in the truck yard on postal or something

[fallen sail]

Oh yeah, the game desperately needs more specific dialogue

[lime notch]

yeah true

[crude leaf]

yeah
some semblence of police other than the entry team

[fallen sail]

It's extremely noticable when you go to SWAT 4 just how many lines are playing

cough and how much more subtle and enjoyable the story is cough

[crude leaf]

[lime notch]

well zero hour AI reacts to lighting so if the devs decide to rework lighting in a few maps for the light switch so maybe they can make the AI react to it and maybe not be able to see and be scared or pull out a flashlight. But I guess that would be a nightmare for the em to make AI react to lighting.

so I guess the NVGS/GPNVGS won't have a good use on most maps and looks like will now just be forgotton by everyone of their use expect for style

/drip

[lime notch]

SWAT4 Lore: Cough

[deft gorge]

lighting im pretty sure is planned on being re-worked so ai’s react to it, because i’m fairly certain they react to flashlights being shined in their faces, but i’m not 100% sure, i saw it on a video awhile back, so don’t quote me on it.

[lime notch]

hmmmm yeah I guess

well probably expect map lighting

[crude leaf]

they will comment on flashlights. idk if it alerts them, but getting them shined in their face does nothing

[lime notch]

yeah it only well makes them aware of us I think?

[deft gorge]

no that’s what i mean lmao, with the lighting rework they’d cover their eyes and become less accurate, but like i said i’m not 100% certain, it could be pure bs i saw it awhile back

[lime notch]

Idk I am kinda drunk

[crude leaf]

ah
i havent heared anything about that
all I remember is the devs saying they wont have any dynamic light stuff because of the engine. but that also sounds like some bs excuses

[lime notch]

bro what is @zenith sonnet typing? I swear he has been typing for a couple of mins by now

[crude leaf]

let him cook

[lime notch]

ok

[modest fern]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-woody-toy-story-sora-kh3-kh-gif-27223516

[zenith sonnet]

lol

[crude leaf]

🔥🔥🔥🔥

[zenith sonnet]

Got called out like this many times now

[deft gorge]

i doubt it’ll happen unfortunately, but there’s to hopeful thinking

[lime notch]

[lime notch]

yeah we got no info on what they doing

wait a min somthing ain't right

[fallen sail]

Dynamic lights are still in the game, but they're super limited

[zenith sonnet]

If they decide to make cutting down power a thing, they gonna make completely new behaviors for the all of the AI so that it doesn't feel like it an easy mode ( like suspects now patrol in groups, some will shoot randomly based on what they hear and not just track you through the walls, etc). And this is not including redesigning all the maps so that it plays well with that mechanic

[lime notch]

if they made 250$ million thousand dollors on the games sales in dec 2021 so what happend to that money? they could have made a whole new engine with it?

[fallen sail]

I still remember when you had those floodlights you could smash people's heads in on meth

[lime notch]

dam

[crude leaf]

as far as we can assume for the next big update, there will be some improvements to suspect animations. like actually getting tased, some heavier animations for MG wielding suspects stuff like that.
Hopefully a lot more too like some actual door opening animations

[native herald]

Hello

[crude leaf]

whizzaaaap

[lime notch]

hello fellow officer

WHIZAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

[native herald]

what yall yapping about

[lime notch]

nothing

[deft gorge]

i think the only problem they kinda face with it, is the game obviously strives for realism and very rarely do actual swat teams cut power to buildings to go in and save people

[crude leaf]

lets be real tho, the "realism first" thing is nothing but marketing bs

[lime notch]

yeah ITS ALL LIES

[crude leaf]

the game is VERY far from realism
but realism is an easy buzzword to attract milsim tacticool goons

[lime notch]

yes just like me

who got attracted by this game in 2021 and bought it immidently upon seeing it

[deft gorge]

i think it’s realistic in certain aspects, as for situations, gear, guns etc but it is definitely missing a good chunk of so called realism

[mortal trench]

[crude leaf]

ngl even the situations dont feel super realistic

extremely exaggerated

[lime notch]

[mortal trench]

yeah, but it's more realistic compared to other games in this genre

[lime notch]

man they promised a lot for 1.0 but only gave half of that promise

I feel scammed

[deft gorge]

i think that’s just more for replay-ability and/or just playability in general, i feel like a mission where you just go into a 7/11 and scream at a dude to put his hands up for 30 minutes until he shoots himself, would be pretty boring

[zenith sonnet]

Back in 2017, I swear that they did talk about the Fear mechanic like what equipment that you put on yourself and teammates will affect how suspects and civilians react and do things upon seeing you

[crude leaf]

I really dont think theres a lot of games you can compare to RON tho.. except of course swat 4

[lime notch]

yeah fr

[lime notch]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[mortal trench]

you know what I mean tho

[lime notch]

uh huh

[mortal trench]

it's still very casual, but not that casual

[crude leaf]

not saying there shouldnt be the more extreme levels.
the game just starts on an extreme I think when it probably shouldnt
every level feels like its trying to be super edgy

[lime notch]

yeah

btw no tanks yet

[deft gorge]

yeah that’s fair, but i guess it is in-turn just attempting to showcase the heinous things swat officers experience

although the new dlc which i forgot the name of, is a little odd

[deft gorge]

home invasion, remembered.

[lime notch]

and lawmaker is the face of the dlc

as it is being home invaded by a bunch of enviormental armed activists

not sure if they activists they more like fighters

and protectors of nature

[deft gorge]

i mean don’t get me wrong tho, i love ron it’s an incredibly fun game, i just do think there’s a good chunk to improve on, which hopefully will be in the future

[crude leaf]

thats fair but they do it too much
When everything they do is shock value, theres nothing shocking about it
ill always bring up SWAT 4's hospital level.
pretty sure its the only one with DOA civvies and its 10x more scary because of that
first level in RON and you have two dead civs, one injured and a dead dog just in a simple gas station stickup

[lime notch]

yeah the game is enjoying for me

[deft gorge]

that is very true lmao

[lime notch]

well what about the neon club dude

you forgot about that level?

it has atleast a thousand bodies laying around both outside and inside

[crude leaf]

I aint forgot about neon lmao

I genuinely think that level has TOO MANY bodies

[lime notch]

but I like it bro

[crude leaf]

ik they say the club was beyond capacity
but like

its silly when you notice it

[zenith sonnet]

It's just the original scope of the game was way bigger that what it is right now, like the fact that they already start to scrap features and ideas since 2018

[deft gorge]

i’m pretty sure it was based on the pulse club incident that happened a few years back

[fallen sail]

While RON starts with a triple homicide, an estranged child and drugs, SWAT 4 starts with a very routine raid on a chinese food store that appears to have a side business of modifying guns

Nobody is necessarily morally evil in the mission, it's just something that's against the law

[deft gorge]

just like elephant, it’s very obvious what elephant is meant to be, and that’s kinda why that mission is slightly unsettling

[runic aspen]

what about like the elephant? i remember a lot of people were shocked and pissed and some people called the game "copaganda"

[fallen sail]

And that incredibly simple level at the start has a lot more taste than most of anything that RON can put out

[crude leaf]

thats the common belief
however looking at it the pulse shooting had 49 deaths.
neon has probably more than that just at the spawn area

[lime notch]

ok

[crude leaf]

I think most people didnt care, vocal minority and click bait journalism got a hold of that.
But my honest opinion on Elephant is that its probably one of the worst levels in the game.
Feels like void only added it because people were so obsessed with it making it into the game. It felt like every day people would join the discord just to ask if they were still doing the school level

[zenith sonnet]

Someone took the time to count and it's around +200 bodies

[lime notch]

well even if its not really realistic for that level to have too many bodies I like it I like seeing thousands of dead bodies stacked on top of each other like a pile

[runic aspen]

fair enough

[lime notch]

Dam boy he thick boy

[crude leaf]

I forgive neon to an extent because I do actually like that level. And it did make me feel uneasy first time playing it.
However I think they definitely could have toned down the bodies a bit

[lime notch]

yeah true

[zenith sonnet]

They did but it's still a lot

[crude leaf]

they did!?
lol
coulda fooled me

[lime notch]

lmao

[crude leaf]

I task someone with going through neon and counting every corpse

[lime notch]

I recommend choosing @deft gorge for that task

[deft gorge]

i’d rather put shit between my hands and clap

[lime notch]

nah you going in their

and counting every single dead body

[lime notch]

I am not asking

[deft gorge]

[zenith sonnet]

Most noticeable is the body hill in the middle of the dance floor

[crude leaf]

congrats you have been promoted to RON EMT
you go in after all the action and count the bodies

[lime notch]

now get your ass in their and start counting or no donuts for you @deft gorge

[native herald]

istg u cant find people in lfg

multiplayer is boring, no one is yapping

painful.

[lime notch]

yeah true I thankfully got a friend to play with

[native herald]

i got no one

[lime notch]

well unfortunet for you

[native herald]

ofc

[lime notch]

man why don't randoms really coordinate and play as a team in ron?

[opaque bolt]

thats way more than the real life pulse shooting

[lime notch]

I have rarely seen a team of randoms play ron like its meant to be

[opaque bolt]

i havent played on a public server like, ever 😭

[lime notch]

yeah me too

I mostly played on single player with AI

[opaque bolt]

yea

i mostly play with friends

[lime notch]

btw do you know any mod which can fix the SWAT AI

[fallen sail]

When it was criticized it was all pretty much done by kotaku as a little stunt, they didn't really give a shit about it.
And when it came out it was super dissapointing and i don't think it clicked with many people just because of how neutered it was

[lime notch]

honestly forget it I rather play with friends then swat ai

[opaque bolt]

just look up swat ai overhaul on mod menu

[lime notch]

oh ok

[crude leaf]

ye

[zenith sonnet]

Around 220, Gruntr confirmed this https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/1doqh1z/comment/laf2cfm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[opaque bolt]

its not a copaganda lmao, they show fbi in a bad light in the last level afaik

[lime notch]

yeah

[crude leaf]

got damn lmao

[opaque bolt]

ye

[lime notch]

Also its FISA now

[opaque bolt]

For obvious reasons.

[lime notch]

well why? I don't get it why they changed FBI to FISA

did they really got into legal dispute with the FBI?

and were forced to change FBI to FISA?

[opaque bolt]

chances are, they could, cus defamation is a crime

[lime notch]

really defamation is a crime!?

[opaque bolt]

free speech is not a crime, defamation is a crime

[lime notch]

bro its a fucking video game they really had to change cuz of that?

at this point their so many things which don't make sense in this world now

[opaque bolt]

they change it for the same reasons gta doesnt use real life los angeles, real life swat and real life LAPD

[lime notch]

what if gta did use? would they get sued for it?

[opaque bolt]

ye they probably could, or worse, prob wont even be able to sell the game in the state of california

[zenith sonnet]

The supporter rescue shield also used to have FBI word on the front of it on their promotional materials but it got removed when the game launched in early access

[lime notch]

wow

[opaque bolt]

u need permissions from the state to use real names

[lime notch]

dam that is so ridiculous

[crude leaf]

I imagine they changed it from FBI to FISA because the FISA are framed as the baddies, atleast in the last mission

[lime notch]

idk I guess they were forced to change name

[opaque bolt]

dont forget greased palms (post office mission)

[crude leaf]

idk if they were forced to, but probably just felt it was better to

[opaque bolt]

ye thats what im saying

[crude leaf]

Its not like no games have gotten away with the FBI being enemies tho
Payday 2 uses the FBI for enemies, though I suppose they arent framed as evil or corrupt really

[lime notch]

remeber when developers of medel of honor were forced by many nato countries to remove the faction taliban from the game cuz of its "desrespectful nature"

[opaque bolt]

ye and they most prob have the perms

[lime notch]

and rename them to "opposing force"

[opaque bolt]

i still dont get that, taliban wasnt even a legit government of afg at that time

they were legit terrorists

btw im playing moh warfighter rn xd

[lime notch]

well I am guessing NATO didn't want themselves look like the baddies and instead look like the good guys

[crude leaf]

they didnt like people being able to play as the taliban in the multiplayer Im pretty sure

[opaque bolt]

ohhhh that makes sense

[crude leaf]

similar reasons multiplayer WW2 shooters dont usually have the germans as "Nazis" and usually just Germany or Wehrmacht

[opaque bolt]

yeah

[lime notch]

makes sense

well my theory is they wanted to look like the good guys and not always the bad guys

[opaque bolt]

||they killed mother 😢||

[lime notch]

[opaque bolt]

preacher is big angy now

doing doomguy-like melee kills

[short ridge]

does custom maps work nowdays ? i dont seem to find them even tho i subbed

[lime notch]

anway gonna sleep

[opaque bolt]

end of the level list

[short ridge]

do i need to start something specific ? (singleplayer, multiplayer, commander mode etc.)

[opaque bolt]

any mode works

[short ridge]

hmm i dont see them, just have first 3 missions unlocked

[opaque bolt]

try multiplayer

[short ridge]

does it only work if i install them manually from nexusmod ?

[modest fern]

Map mods show up in their own map tab

[opaque bolt]

rlly?

[modest fern]

Think so, at least last I saw a screenshot

[opaque bolt]

i didnt know that, they appeared at the bottom of the level list, atleast in the update before the dlc and overhaul

[deft gorge]

ya’ll prefer lemons or limes

[crude leaf]

Its better to download things manually from nexus
mod.io isnt reliable, seems they dont install custom maps properly also by the sounds of it

[short ridge]

do you know where mod.io safes the stuff i download ? so i dont need to use nexus mod

the download limit is painful 😄 i can just put it in paks folder

[rich tendon]

readyornot>readyornot>content>paks>modio

i believe thats where it is

[short ridge]

dont have the modio folder 😦

[crude leaf]

idk where the game puts them
I think the issue is mod.io isnt downloading the paks to the right place so they dont load

it should be putting them in the modiofolder in paks

[short ridge]

maybeee

lets create a modio folder and then it will do it

[crude leaf]

what map u trying to download
is it up to date?

[crude leaf]

not sure if that will fix it but you could try I suppose

[short ridge]

i tryed metro station, hotel panama, supermarket map

[crude leaf]

I believe all of those are out of date anyways so they wont work

[short ridge]

gg

[crude leaf]

have to be uploaded or updated past 23rd July this year

[short ridge]

thats unlucky for us, i mean then basicly no mod works right ?

[crude leaf]

The Row
Lustful Remorse
Propaganda
Apartment of Horrors
are some up to date custom maps you could check out
Shouldnt take too long to download them from nexus

[crude leaf]

Majority of mods wont be working
Depends if the authors have updated them
theres a good few that have been updated by now

[wintry delta]

bro any brazillian player for play

[cloud cypress]

i don't even have the game, i'm just here so i'll know when it comes to console

my laptop ain't good enough to run the game more than likely

[deft gorge]

a few should work now, but it’s up to the mod author to fix em

[fallen sail]

You'll be here for a while methinks

[west walrus]

hey all hope day is going well?

[deft gorge]

the chances of ron going to console are unfortunately probably very slim, simply because of the sheer amount of buttons that need pressing

[fallen sail]

Brother people already told you its mapped to controller

The chance is very big that the game is coming to console, it'll just take time

[deft gorge]

i’ve not had a single person tell me that lmao

[waxen latch]

Console players gonna get the most stable and consistent version of the game. They dont even know it 😭

[lilac vale]

Keybinds for controller ain’t the issue with the game coming to console. It’s the performance

[mortal trench]

30fps experience

[lilac vale]

720P

[fallen sail]

sure hope so

[deft gorge]

performance probably shouldnt be an issue tbh, especially with ue5

[lilac vale]

My guy, have you seen peoples issue with UE5 on PC?

[deft gorge]

yeah, that’s pc, where they strive for the best

[mortal trench]

that says literally nothing

[crude lake]

"Don't you guys have phones?"
-Wyatt Cheng, Blizzard Entertainment-

[deft gorge]

consoles have limitations which most dev’s are explicitly aware of lol

[lilac vale]

Ron on phone would hit so mid

[mortal trench]

pcs have too

[deft gorge]

they’re significantly less

[mortal trench]

developing for a console is actually easier

in terms of hardware

[crude lake]

Spill it, TAP. I saw you typing.

[deft gorge]

also, it does, ue5 is optimized for the worst of the worst

[mortal trench]

what does that even mean

[simple epoch]

UE5 itself is pretty stable tbh.

[lilac vale]

[deft gorge]

you can play high quality games, on low end devices

[crude lake]

[waxen latch]

Ron spaguetti code

[simple epoch]

look at black myth wukong. pretty good performance

[deft gorge]

i’ve seen a few clips of it, it doesn’t look like a bad game tbh

[mortal trench]

if I give you a hammer and a stone could you make a cool statue?

[waxen latch]

Big monke with a stick

[simple epoch]

it's not. I'll be genuinely mad if it doesn't win GOTY

[lilac vale]

Wanna bet on it?

[waxen latch]

Not enough diversity. Mid game

[deft gorge]

literally look it up, ue5 is optimized for most devices

[simple epoch]

😭

[mortal trench]

my smart fridge says otherwise

[deft gorge]

it kinda reminds me of gow a little bit

[mortal trench]

I'll hammer you!!

[lilac vale]

I’ve already been bonked by @rich tendon I’ve lost brain cells after.

[simple epoch]

it's prety much GoW, but instead of norse mythology it's Chinese mythology

sprinkled with a bit of elden ring

[mortal trench]

did you know that microsoft windows is optimized for most devices

[deft gorge]

fair

[lilac vale]

But still can’t run Tetris for shit

[echo moth]

you'd be surprised, it's astonishing how little a good stonemason needs

[lilac vale]

Also @modest fern your pfp is ass REVERT TO OLD ONE PLSSSSSSSSS

[lilac vale]

[mortal trench]

a stone and hammer?

[deft gorge]

what ever happened to hell divers, i used to see it everywhere

[lilac vale]

It took a dive

[simple epoch]

it's slowly dying

[deft gorge]

it missed the water then

[simple epoch]

it's still fun. but the content is lacking

[deft gorge]

i’ve seen a few people say that

[waxen latch]

Concord sweep

[mortal trench]

Pat

[simple epoch]

40 bucks to play with like 3 more people

[lilac vale]

Eww

[mortal trench]

concord sweep what that

[lilac vale]

pat pat pat pat

[mortal trench]

ritual to spawn tap?

[lilac vale]

Idk don’t ask me

[waxen latch]

Play with the devs!

[modest fern]

Gamers are raging about them making the game harder despite them saying it was too easy

[rich tendon]

you wont believe this…….
nuh uh

[simple epoch]

will they give me my 40 bucks back

[mortal trench]

just like ron

[lilac vale]

@mortal trench SHES LYING

[modest fern]

RoN is the other way around, it gets easier despite not being hard enough at times

[mortal trench]

I trust her

[lilac vale]

You have not even gotten al achievements. You have 2 out of 23

[lilac vale]

Course you do

[modest fern]

I could get em in one day if I wanted

I simply do not care

[lilac vale]

With your Pc specs? I doubt it

[modest fern]

My PC runs just fine

[echo moth]

maybe you could use the back of the hammer as a chisel and the stone to drive it?

[modest fern]

Though I think imma upgrade with a larger SSD and a 3080

[lilac vale]

Is being hooked up to ventilator and breathing like Vader fine? If you say so

[mortal trench]

I don't have a drivers license :(

[echo moth]

😭

you must not be American

[lilac vale]

Then drive

[mortal trench]

"I drive"

[lilac vale]

See you’ve passed the test

[rich tendon]

i have my license

[mortal trench]

I'm evil european

[lilac vale]

Nuh uh

[rich tendon]

uh huh

[lilac vale]

EWWWWWWWWWW

[mortal trench]

[lilac vale]

I will make sure you lose it

[rich tendon]

how

[bitter cairn]

just wondering if anyone has any opinions on the flux defense raider im not sure if i should use it because i cant find any videos on it

[lilac vale]

By cutting it

[rich tendon]

i need a new one anyways

[lilac vale]

Dang it

Okay I won’t cut it, congrats Vivien proud of you

I’m gonna make chiki nuggies anyone want some?

[simple epoch]

it's basically the same as any other pistol, but with the downside of not having an actual primary

[modest fern]

I like it as a gun, idrc if it is a primary or not, but having it as a primary is kinda fun. I see the appeal more of being able to not carry a primary at all.

[mortal trench]

suffer

[modest fern]

There is the temptation while doing pistol only runs to draw your primary if it has any ammo in it.

[simple epoch]

they should have made it a secondary tbh

[modest fern]

Skill issue

[midnight barn]

it's very fun to use on runs trying to S Rank with lethal weapons, aim on suspects pelvis and yells a lot

[crude leaf]

I feel like it could maybe be better if its ammo was distributed differently
like you get more for 1 points worth?
Feels like it makes sense, the mags arent rifle sized

[blazing bone]

anyone notice that the beanbags are insanely inaccurate if the suspect is moving? I've gone through so many deaths because the shot didn't register even though the sight was right there on center mass

[amber hedge]

Cool

[amber hedge]

That’s a ray cast issue

[crude leaf]

I believe beanbags are one of the few guns that are projectile

[amber hedge]

It is?

[crude leaf]

they're likely outrunning them so try and lead a bit

[mortal trench]

lol

[amber hedge]

Oh ya but it still uses raycasting

[mortal trench]

I think it uses math

[blazing bone]

ah I see, that's frustrating given how many other flaws this gun already has lmao

I'm never attempting to do S rank port hokan again once I beat this nightmare

[radiant venture]

Beanbag rounds and pepperball rounds are projectiles, but everything else is hitscan UNLESS it ricochets.

[crude leaf]

beanbag is probably the better less lethal option than pepperballs tbh
just have to hit ur shots

[radiant venture]

beanbag is best lethal option in the game, too. It doesn't have a headshot damage multiplier, it sets the NPC's health to 0 when you headshot them.

[blazing bone]

I thought that applies to every gun lol

you'd expect a bullet no matter a calibre to fucking kill someone if it hits the brain

[radiant venture]

No, the headshot multiplier used to be 3x for everything EXCEPT 7.62x51 AP for some dumb ass reason, and after the DLC the headshot multiplier for everything is 6x, except for slugs and buckshot, which gets 3x, and beanbags set hp to 0 on headshot

[mortal trench]

I think the skull can block the projectiles of a beanbag gun

[radiant venture]

7.62x51 AP had a 2x headshot multiplier ❓ ❓ ❓

[radiant venture]

It's birdshot in a kevlar bag so maybe but you're probably a vegetable.

[mortal trench]

free face shrapnel

[radiant venture]

actually I think beanbag rounds are #4 shot, not birdshot, in a kevlar bag

[blazing bone]

that is unironically fucking moronic lmao. Atleast now they fixed it

[crude leaf]

damage is weird

[radiant venture]

Oh, there's still plenty of stupid bullshit. For instance, .45ACP and 10mm do the exact same damage, despite having unique penetration values. Additionally, 7.62x39 is again, the exact same damge as .300blk, but with more overpenetration risk, and more recoil.

[crude leaf]

I dont really get why they made suspect guns do so much damage but then cap it to 70 anyways?
Not to mention the fact they broke the cap system

[radiant venture]

This game is spaghetti code incarnate, it's a complete fucking mess.

[radiant venture]

this is also very low I.Q. on VOID's part, not only having suspect damage be goofy, but then adding a damage cap system you break at a later date is some rock intelligence type shit.

[blazing bone]

lmao and here coming back I thought void finally fixed the nightmare

[radiant venture]

They need mentats, or amphetamines, or something.

[crude leaf]

"This guy needs a kick in the pants" Reynolds SWAT 4

[blazing bone]

thinking about it another low iq moment is Port hokan in general. It's so fucked. I'ved literally been stuck at it for a combined 10 hours

20+ suspects at a mostly open ended map

[radiant venture]

I've never had too much trouble with port hokan, but I had to nuke my saves because a mod fucked up my equipment after the update, so I haven't played it recently since I'm still working towards it.

[crude leaf]

I dont hate new port, but the fact its so open is actually really dumb
idk why void like making the levels so big and open
it just doesnt work with the type of game they want(?) to go for

[blazing bone]

I know right? It's not even balanced for it

9 times out of 10 they see you before you see them. And even if you spot them you'll miss most of the time

oh and if you have a beanbag? Unless you catch them off guard you're SOL

[radiant venture]

VOID is 3 different development teams trying to make 3 different games and it shows pretty clearly imo.

[crude leaf]

If it was just a coop game where you shoot everyone, All of the maps would be great
but the entire AI squad system and the fact you're ment to prioritise arrests makes the maps terrible

Squad AI would really work best with room breaching (if they even did that right) but instead we get maps that actively go aginst the AI breaching

[blazing bone]

yeah it's genuinely game breaking

especially if you're going for S rank

it's the only game that made me threw my mouse across the fucking room with how frustratingly strict it is

[radiant venture]

Oh yeah, another funny thing, the arterial bleed chance for 12ga slugs is 10,000%, I'm not even kidding. The field for arterial bleeding is 0-1. 0 being 0%, and 1 being 100%. A silly VOID developer that changed the slugs' arterial bleed value thought it was 0-100, and put in 100, thus yielding a 10,000% arterial bleed chance.

[crude leaf]

amazing

[radiant venture]

pottery

[crude leaf]

I wonder if the suspects GAIN morale on some levels still
because they randomly changed the code and some people still used the old values

[crisp gate]

Ok here me out guy ready or not should change the spawn locations on main and side suspects and example of this is in valley of the dolls the wife of the main suspect is always in n that first room and the guy is always down stars some were with in the room across the girls also me personally I think we need some new long tactics

[blazing bone]

iirc the only change I noticed is the suspects don't kill themselves anymore and instead of being terminators they're now delta force snipers

[fleet granite]

For the hermit… does officer resignation count as losing an officer??

[crude leaf]

I just stopped using vanilla AI once Astral's AI got updated

[radiant venture]

Would not doubt it with how broken the game is and how little attention is given to the many severe underlying problems directly impacting core gameplay, like the broken damage cap, and 10mm and .45ACP as well as .300blk and 7.62x39 having identical damage curves, despite one cartridge being clearly inferior to the other, in addition to the SWAT AI randomly not doing certain things because they don't feel like it.

[radiant venture]

Quit trying to 100% a broken video game. You die in 4 shots through steel right now, the game is fucked.

[fleet granite]

I don’t use steel

[radiant venture]

Good, you literally can't. Ceramic is the only armour you can use right now.

[fleet granite]

Or get shot 4x

[radiant venture]

I don't believe that second part, but okay.

[blazing bone]

Oh the hermit. Fuck the hermit and fuck my OCD for forcing me to do that next

[fleet granite]

A slight exaggeration of the truth for your amusement at my expense

[blazing bone]

I have half a mind to just use a fucking ai and suspect count decrease mod

[fleet granite]

Does officer resignation count as losing an officer?

[radiant venture]

The suspects don't need to see you to shoot you, still, even though this was established as an issue, and VOID attempted to address it, to no avail.

[radiant venture]

I torture myself with half-life speedruns instead of ready or not, I can't help you, but if you need to know how to edge bug, I've got you covered.

[crisp gate]

Ok here me out guy ready or not should change the spawn locations on main and side suspects and example of this is in valley of the dolls the wife of the main suspect is always in n that first room and the guy is always down stars some were with in the room across the girls also me personally I think we need some new long tactics

[blazing bone]

but nope. Void was willing to patch in something saying "save file modded" or the likes of something like that

[radiant venture]

What new long tactics do you think would work?

[crude leaf]

addressing it by just lowering the damage rather than actually fix the issue

[blazing bone]

but can't be assed to balance their fucking suspect count

it's literally a single .ini change. Why won't they do it?

[radiant venture]

That didn't even work though because they also make kevlar and steel stop working in practice by breaking the damage cap like a bunch of orangutans.

[crisp gate]

First a fix to the mirror gun were you look at the screen

[radiant venture]

I am confused by what you mean by that.

[crisp gate]

I just had some ideas in my mind but I just lost my train of thought

[radiant venture]

Good weed?

[crisp gate]

You know when you use the mirror gun it uses your whole screen

[radiant venture]

Yeah, because I want to see into the other room when I use it.

[crisp gate]

I’m saying when you use it it just shows you on the tiny screen on the mirror gun

[crude leaf]

there is a setting to use the model screen rather than the fullscreen

[radiant venture]

^ Also that one.

[native herald]

aight ron vc's aint that bad

[radiant venture]

vietcongs?

[crude leaf]

I end up just lowering the model's screen to the lowest resolution and using the fullscreen because muh performance

[crisp gate]

Where is it and what is it called

[crude leaf]

should be able to just disable the screen

[crisp gate]

Is it in gameplay settings

[crude leaf]

graphics
optiwand view mode

[crisp gate]

Ok thank you my man

[crude leaf]

change it to picture in picture

[radiant venture]

Oh yeah, something else funny, you know sullivan's slope, and the fellas with gas masks? Well, it turns out, there's only ever 1 suspect immune to CS gas on that map, and the elephant shooters with gas masks have no CS immunity. So there's literally a single fucking enemy in the entire game immune to CS gas just to ruin someone's day.

[swift mist]

that can happen

[crisp gate]

Will it change anything else other than that

[crude leaf]

and dont forget body armour, how it just doesnt actually match the model

[swift mist]

i see a lot of people complain about the ai but idk if its rly that bad

[blazing bone]

on the bright side they atleast tried to make it fair by only having 4 suspects

ngl I hate VOID's fetish of fucking hollywood action movie 15+ suspect bullshit

[swift mist]

OK but then you will have repeated maps

if you want realistic missions, all you'll get is apartment homes

[crude leaf]

suspect ai is just bland, too aggressive and very little variation in behaviours. Always resort to killing you, almost never run away or hide without shooting at you first and makes ROE basically a non-factor.
SWAT AI is better than in Early access but often dont listen to commands and like to push a bit too far to get arrests or weapons secured

[deft gorge]

it’s mediocre possibly better than mediocre, my experiences have been fine with it, just the occasional unfairness or bug

[radiant venture]

Play greased palms and S rank it. Tell me the AI is good. Stop posting until you've done this, or retract your statement.

[crisp gate]

Dose that setting change anything else

[crude leaf]

what setting?

[swift mist]

S rank is an ideal

[radiant venture]

Yes, the way the developers expect you to play.

[crisp gate]

The pictures to picture thing

[radiant venture]

Now try it, and stop posting, or retract your statement.

[crude leaf]

only changes the optiwand nothing else

[blazing bone]

it's not the realism I want. I just want the game to be fair to be honest. I've spent over 30 hours trying to S rank this nightmare of a game. They put over 15 suspects on the final 4 levels, all of them have massive open areas, and your best weapon is a projectile shot that can't shoot for shit when you're being suppressed. Meanwhile the enemy has delta force AI, unaffected by suppressive fire, and can kill you near instantly from 50 yards

[lucid burrow]

I did it once and I never wanted to do it again on Greased Palms. The map is hilariously poorly designed for the shit AI

[swift mist]

it's a ranking... if they expected you to play that way they can put up "failed" instead of "S"

[radiant venture]

You can literally fail a mission and unlock the next one.

[crude leaf]

I wouldnt say S rank is the one you're expected to get
but the ideal run is arresting most suspects or as many as you can. Currently suspect AI just isnt varied enough with behaviours and makes every encounter almost exactly the same

[blazing bone]

I shouldn't even be awake right now, but I've spent 5 hours straight trying to S rank Hokan. But this nightmare is so horribly balanced and designed that I literally have to pray that me and my team survive not one, not two, but three massive open spaces with several enemy spawns dotted around. This game was never programmed nor balanced for encounters outside CQB. Nor S rank. I wouldn't be surprised if VOID never ever tried to S rank their own bullshit

[radiant venture]

Press F. Suspect backs away for a few moments. Suspect raises gun. You shoot and incapacitate the suspect. Rinse and repeat. GAMEPLAY!!!

VOID definitely doesn't play their game whatsoever, if they say they do, they're more full of shit than my local water treatment plant. If they really want to claim they're playing it, they must be so unfamiliar with video games that they literally weren't able to tell that steel was performing worse than ceramic in the game that they made, in which case, it's a miracle they've made it this far at all.

[crude leaf]

this ☝️
I hate to bring up swat 4 all the time (I dont I love to bring it up)
But most encounters in that game you could never be 100% on how thing would go down, some suspects might immediately open fire, some might run away to find a better spot. Some might fake a surrender and then run. There was tension and strict ROE that you had to follow
RoN is just encounter suspect, they try and shoot you, you shoot them first repeat

[lucid burrow]

S-rank Hokan is both easy and hard, just depending on how your enemies spawn. My recommended path is to clear the first area, then going right to clear the gas station, backtracking to clear the left side and then the courtyard of the main warehouse before entering the lighthouse and clearing internals from there

[radiant venture]

I may as well just go john wick mode and ignore RoE, at least it'd be more fun and fast paced that way.

[lucid burrow]

Based

[radiant venture]

Actually. Install a mod that deletes the lobotomized useless fucking protozoan vegetative SWAT AI so they won't use their best aiming to kill you for being unethical, and then just slaughter everyone. Way more fun, much bettter gameplay.

[crude leaf]

playing like that often is more fun and I think thats the problem, cause thats not how the game should be played, and its because if you try to play it how they seemingly want you to, it isnt as fun because it hasnt been designed around it properly

[blazing bone]

at this point, I'm considering something similar in the sense of, once I'm done with this S rank bullshit - I'm showing no mercy to the suspects

[short ridge]

are breaches not working ?

[radiant venture]

The game isn't working. Carry on.

[crude leaf]

you go john wick on swat 4 its boring AF and really easy
you follow ROE and try to get arrests, its tense, challenging and really fun

[short ridge]

what do you mean

worst answer ever gotten

[radiant venture]

The SWAT AI is trash because VOID has rocks for brains and they can't breach certain doors on certain maps.

Is that better?

[blazing bone]

I'm fully convinced the swat ai is less accurate than the suspect ai without the veteran perk

[lucid burrow]

Funny thing is, they can. You just have to tell them to fall in then re-order them to breach, which is annoying AF

Worse thing is their grenade throws

[radiant venture]

SWAT AI just shoots the air, which is really helpful after they broke the damage cap.

[blazing bone]

is that why they couldn't shoot for shit in the open areas of port hokan?

[radiant venture]

It's like the recoil adjustments weren't relayed to the AI so they just whiff constantly.

[crude leaf]

they always seem to wait a long time after yelling for me, even after they're getting shot at they wait and then shoot and then wait again while being shot

[radiant venture]

AI cannot hit anything past 25 meters, typically. Suspect or SWAT.

[radiant venture]

Yeah, VOID just shoved an ice pick in their frontal lobe, it seems.

[icy forge]

when pvp?

[crude leaf]

I will never forget the time I set a team to cover a hallway on sins, a suspect rushes up the stairs from the fireplace room into the hall and somehow kills one of the officers covering that hall
like what is the point in having AI you can command if they just dont work properly
why am I being punished for the AI screwing up

[blazing bone]

hopefully after they fix the basegame's suspect count

[crude leaf]

hopefully after they fix the basegame fullstop

[radiant venture]

Hopefully never because it'll be ass no matter how hard they try to make it work.

This game CANNOT work in PvP because of free lean, any amount of latency introduced to that backwards ass fucked up spaghetti lean system would create way too much bullshit for anyone with an ounce of self respect to tolerate.

You'll just be killed by floating muzzle flashes.

No man or gun in sight.

[crude leaf]

that would be really funny to see

[native herald]

Year 2024: people just found out about Headquarters coffee machine

[radiant venture]

Imagine not knowing.

[craggy osprey]

Where do I ask questions?

[radiant venture]

Questions pertaining to....?

[native herald]

true

[compact lotus]

Isnt that because they always full auto

[brittle sapphire]

will aRyzen 5 5500 + RX 6600 16gb, 1tb ssd run ron good>

[native herald]

yea

[compact lotus]

I had a similar setup and it ran decently

[brittle sapphire]

alr

[slate snow]

hi

[native herald]

real mf players: balaclava no helmets.

[plain escarp]

Basically the problem is that the game has the AI tuned too aggressive

And there's no real "variety" between the AI individuals' potential behaviors, or rather, the aggression level is simply not letting it work

I think what would help is adding a sliding scale for different parameters of the AI behavior

Reactivity, volatility, aggression

And "will", I suppose.

Reactivity would be how quickly an AI reacts to stimulus around themselves

[modest fern]

best option is just a difficulty option from easy to hard for people who want to play swat 4 and people who want a decent fps

[plain escarp]

Volatility would determine how unpredictable that AI will be - meaning, its decision-making (affects flightiness)

Aggression is how likely it will engage in gunplay

And Will is how resistant it will be to attempts to gain compliance by the officers

You define these parameters for AI behavior, Void, and you will solve this problem very easily

And this would in turn allow you to create a near-infinite list of different behavioral profiles for enemies to choose from every time a mission is loaded.

For example, arabic extremists would be leaning towards the more aggressive side, with a lower reactivity since they aren't hardened terrorists, usually.

But ex-cops, ex-military would have a higher reactivity, low volatility, high aggression, and high will, making them unlikely to be unpredictable, but extremely dangerous

I hope someone at Void is taking notes here.

[native herald]

ngl, why these players are that focused, that they starting shooting their own teammate

[shrewd plaza]

😭

i was healthy and tm headshots me 4 times

[scarlet swallow]

after i download custom maps, how do i start playing them? i've installed them from the ingame nexus thingy

[native herald]

gotta sit and watch fkin 50mins gameplay

[shrewd plaza]

AI looking other way but doing damage to me

its crazy

[scarlet swallow]

not as bad as it used to be

[plain escarp]

But still pretty bad

[scarlet swallow]

prolly skill issue

[plain escarp]

I think part of the problem for Co-op is the fact that it's using a peer-to-peer hosting system, rather than allowing us to use dedicated servers

in my experience over the last 20 years, peer to peer is never the answer

It's a cheap way to enable MP, since you don't have to rent or build a server rig for it, just use your own gaming computer. But if your gaming computer has bad specs and you're the host, the game is going to suck

I personally think Ready or Not could benefit from a more traditional dedicated server lobby system

[crude leaf]

I think adding even more parameters to suspects is just going to complicate things more. The stress system they have has already caused tons of issues
And the way they decide on surrenders clearly isn't good enough since they still don't make logical or varied decisions
Swat 4 did it way better with much less

[plain escarp]

I'm saying they can ditch the stress system

The SWAT series were more controlled because they focused on those parameters