#💬general-discussion
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Fair, Swat 4 Swat AI suffers of granny throwing
Last mission a bot bounced the bang on the door frame and flashed whole team
SWAT 4s ai kinda suffer from being pre-programmed, though I am not 100% sure if that is how they work. I just noticed through a lot of restarts they always take the same route and stuff, even if that means running straight into a guy and dying one by one.
I seen a video explaining that they are partially coded in the map
So devs in their infinite wisdom made ai look at nodes on the map
Not actual suspects
Hotter the node the reder it gets and more swat AI prioritises it
Who's ready to kick doors in and kick ass
Not me
explodes
most games in that era suffered from this, ai and pathfinding systems back then were very basic
understandable, have a nice day
if the game is so "realistic" why do I get penalized for shooting everyone?
Where did I say anything about the game being realistic
can somebody tell me what each file for the gunfighter mod has
read that sentence again
I want to formally apologize im illiterate
now kiss
ughushguasfhusaudfsdfsdf
huh?
Hey, anyone know the3 date for the DLC?
No official date for it, just guesses at the moment.
the date:
does anyone know how much it will be
only $80
its a joke
jesus okay
in all seriousness we don't know the price
it will probably be like $30
that's my guess. 20minium 30 max
10$
Take my dollars but please release it now, not 
11 dollars
It'll cost about a 30 year mortgage
15 euros for every gun and 20 for every map
NSFW suggestiveness
Immediate ban
im not even joking that was against the rules i think you should be punished
Lawrance Fairfax was either crazy or thought he was him
Tried to shotgun my entry team while crouched
Blocked it with my shield and nailed him in the head
A 45 acp bullet saved people their taxpayer money
what error?
that's... weird.... game is p2p (peer to peer)
UwU
ducktales?
RoN players discovering ROE
Whats RoE?
idk, it's some fish stuff
GPNVGS duh
hmm
Did Fairfax Residence "unintentional nonlethal"
Had guns but didnt have to shoot them
Got 100/100
On Hard Difficulty with FR mod
@brisk yoke gort. 
Eppy, might go lay down for awhile. lol
Naps are amazing
that they are
even if they might fuck with your sleep schedule
I've started playin L4D2 versus and it's alot of funnnnnn, even though the community is quite toxic
I've always only played coop and survival but versus is pretty fun, but quite dead since you need 8 players
true
Leaked pic of Gort taking a bath
i dont shower
fair enough
waste of water
this man thinks like a bird
You're a waste of water
damn, just got sexually harassed by some kid from another server and the mods ain't doing shit 
a sentence that I'm not shocked by considering what Discord is known for
yeah
chonky raccoon 
and reporting them to discord doesn't do shit
not surprising 
HAI
hii 
interesting, so it drops the current mag that's in the gun too if I'm not wrong, fascinating to see it being officially added to the game. i assumed it's inspired by that one mod?
that is correct it free drops the mag, and you reload
and if that mag is still has ammo in it you can pick it up for later use!
How are you
its not recommended
Man Burning Lands is never going to happen
Yes
you're not recommended!!!
its Mod.io that you should actively avoid
anyone have issues with unlocking Way Out West achievement? I just completed the map with a .357 and no achievement
its you who we should actively avoid!!
ouch. you're right
did you use anything else? Like multitool for example?
flashbangs
you cant use them
like the only thing i can use period is the revolver?
magnum with attachments, nvg, armor, shield on your back and the only thing you can do is kick doors
thank you!
you still can let your swat ai to kill everyone
So everyone talks about SWAT but anyone else played the console SWAT spin-offs?
Global or Target Liberty (Just beat Target Liberty recently.)
why when I was playing with another player he had a balaclava and an HRT helmet and I don't have it, I would like to ask for a quick answer
For some reason I thought it was the rocker club where the hardcore Christians attack, they got armor
Which mod exactly?
supporter edition item
although balaclava is a mod, not sure how you saw it as mods are client side
unless maybe it was the old hrt models that were somehow used?
theres a mod area on the main menu
yes there is
that how i got half the guns i use in the game
age, but as soon as I download one, it crashes
thats because mod io sucks lmao
i have no problems with it
ok thanks for your help
Guys dont go on deployment its kinda gay
uhhh... mods?
@rigid bone Kam chan!

Sup
ew
gort
Womp womp
when does the ue6 update drop?
UE5? 
of course they won't
wow! what a great story! now, where are mods? are they sleeping already?
Can't believe a foreign company like tesla is violating American laws that's why I buy cars built in America like Chevrolet
When’s the next update
When the UE5 transition is ready
hiiii 
ue5 
Don’t avoid the question Linaaa
M1911 enjoyer
Rewatching Dune Part Two
Hello it mb a stupid question but I found a way to make this game run and I would like to know if every AR are effective in the game I’m using a mcx silenced one with 300. Blackout idk the name it this gun good?
No, recoil is high
Every gun can kill, rifles are probably the standard most players use.
For lowest recoil either G36K or F90
is there a AR better than the other or all of them are balenced ?
Just use the SA58
i will check because im tired of the hk416 and the M4
5,56 messes up armor so unless they have max level armor, JHP clears
im tired of ar15
Have an AK, high recoil yes
The SA58 is like the hardest hitting gun in the game
Too hard
Overpen the gun
That is one of the three things I will ever truly and completely shill
SA-58 might be the one gun I wont put on Swat AI
can't believe that any american company cares about obeying the law (but to be fair american law do be like "keep your customers alive (optionally)")
They full auto it
I've only overpen unintentionally maybe a couple times the whole time I've used the SA58 which is the only gun I ever use. It's rare and even then just pay attention to what's behind the target you're shooting. You should be thinking like that with all guns really :/
This tbh
I run the HK416
For missions with health modifiers though like relapse, sins ect you're actually better off with a different rifle. You can drop an extra 5 suspects on one mag vs SA58 with torso/chest shots.


I've written 10 citations today. I'm in Trooper esque form today babyyyy
Why does this server not have rainbow logos for pride month? Is it homophobic?
Rainbow helmet.
NOW.
I think you're a bit late for that one
did the ron achivements just get updated or has that been like that for awhile
my 100% is gone 
Did you get 2 achievements aswell?
I mean I just got 2 achievements for a dlc
you got achivements for the dlc?
Yup, idk why
Also check the store page for a game, there's a dlc listed lol
That is normal, the steam page for the DLC has been up for days but is not priced/available for purchase
its joever
Dlc achievements got added
If you didnt notice by people randomly getting two for no reason imfao
i just checked my steam page and saw it
I just had that issue
Don't even have the DLC or the supporter edition
real
yeah i have got achievements for the new dlc even thou i dont have it
Completely stable game with no issues at all, great devs
indeed, but i need more
how much is the DLC going to cost?
No idea
Dam, I wish for more outfits and balaclava :<
i dont think anyone knows, but for 3 maps 3 guns and some new clothes hopefully not more than like 15$
this shit boutta be 50 usd lol
More outfits and drip are def gonna get added with the dlc
yea you can see balaclava new shirt and pants in dlc store page
wonder how many missions in dlc
3
if it is gonna kms
no one is buying it - supporter edition was already a complete joke
anything more than 15 is a scam
i am buying it, game is good to me
Uh huh, I can see a balaclava on some of the npc's in the lobby aswell
The DLC does not include the guns, the guns are included as part of a free update along side the DLC.
Am I the Chosen one? Cuz how is this possible
https://i.im.ge/2024/07/17/VxyMED.Screenshot-2024-07-16-232755.png
yeah everyone got it
been happening to everyone lil bro
yes but im counting it all together, not worth going into specifcs in a discord msg
what about the fits?
Guys i just bought the game and its SOO GOOOOOOODD
damn
someone get me insider info on dlc release plz, name your price
I thought Im cool
think again
yoo new screenshots on the home invasion steam page
lol
the sky is blue
youre kinda toxic
why did i just get the achievements for the ready or not dlc LMAO
Dw about it
bruh
You're not the first to notice
i see
I love the cycle of > Person joins > "I got these" > people point out that yes they know > Person joins > "I got these"
the endless loop
Steam just spoiled a surprise lmao
the dlc was achievements all along
I personally launched the game first time since 1st july so noticed only now

I thought the DLC was released 😭
i was just endlessly scrolling through my library cuz idk what to play
some people estimated 40
HUH
thats just not true
nah thats too much
Probably gunna be 20
Ish
Tell that to the 3 biggest ron youtubers
?
bro the game itself doesnt cost this much
if you mean to say that in response to the price point
If it’s 40 it better have the cure for cancer
real
or someone elses statement
did anyone else get the DLC achievements randomly?
yeah im def not the first one
it cant be more than 20
I smell left wing
10-15 max
Hey guys, I have a question to all of yall. Besides more maps and similar content, what would you wanna see in the game in the future?
Oh...
It is indeed an endless loop
promise?
I cant promise that
hahahaah dude
Fidget spinner suspects
that one flashbang launcher should return
if the dlc is more than 25 dollars im dropping mod role
shouldnt it be the right one, if we're talking about the nazis?
Bet
wouldnt that me mildly disbalanced tho?
L85A3
battlepass
mgl? agree
actually a cool suggestion
and void coins
NO
not talking about the SA-58
nah
true
can we unmod blackbird for this ridiculous capitalist suggestions?
Outfits from alpha and HRT outfit before the update ;-;
On it boss
Battlepasses ruined gaming
jesus
YO I just got a brilliant idea, what if they would add multiplayer, where both sides are people. Like terrs vs SWAT but terrs arent AI
wtf my emoji got blocked
stop using hypertext
You mean like in Zero Hour
or whatever it's called
so basically actually good r6s?
not really. People buy and play games with battlepasses. Studios just provided what consumers demanded
sadly
tf is this
they tried to mix RoN and R6S
maybe, never played r6s myself
A game imo better than RoN since it didn't get abandoned like 3 times
oh wow discord brokey cuz I have nitro
Yeah mate you're chatting balls
The world's a better place without battlepasses
I mean, the concept of a battlepass isn't bad, as long as it's only cosmetics or stuff. And you don't have to pay for it
you cant argue against the fact that people continue to pay and play games with battlepasses. They have the option not to buy, yet they continue to buy the games and the battlepass.
The idea of a battlepass is kinda that you pay for it, yeah
Battlepass = pay money to grind
Why in anyway is that a good thing?
If I pay for something, I don't want to have to work for it
I don't think I've seen a BP that didn't have some monetization behind it
RON is not a place for battlepass, makes no sence to add it
Battlepasses and any paid in-game content is fine as long as it is also play-to-win and not only pay-to-win
Besides having a "free track"
please add battlepass to ron
Thing is RoN cant really be grinded
not saying it is a good thing. It is a result of the market.
hell nah
Battlepass was a logical continuation of the ingame purchases as a whole
you could make it so there are daily tasks that give you points to progress in the bp
please devs I beg add it
anybody else get the home invasion achievements??
alternative they could make SE purchasable again
everyone
a battle pass in ron is cooked
Lmao
It earns you money and increases time played by people, which in turn gets u more money
at this rate imma pin something and just start screaming at people to
please $50 dlcs too
Was, to entirely online games, RoN is not about that at all
Game crashed and I got them
the power is in the consumer to stop supporting shitty games. Other than that, expect the same slop for live service games or single player games with battlepasses.
this aint fortnite
yeah ofc, it only works with certain genres
exactly
I don't even have the game installed and still got them 🤣🤣🤣
lol
That’s hilarious
lmao
the addiction is too strong
reinstalling now though in-case new update drops
I even got the S+ one, guess I don’t gotta deal with that anymore
same
Anything else yall would like to actually be implemented into the game? (Besides new content like guns and maps)
I think everyone got both
dating feature
Bro the hype is real. But I don't think the DLC is droppimg this week
battle pass = 30% of content on release and then drip feed the rest over 3 years
I wish they added a bank mission
more online imo, because after the missions there isnt much to do
the question is if it could unlock some new tattoo or smth
like the North Hollywood shootout
true, once u completed the game there is very little replayability
that’d be awesome
Did everyone unlock those new achievements?
I was making more of a general statement.
But they could theoretically add challenges and an XP system to the game.
real
yeah i was wondering why
Also what the hell does a hurricane have to do with the new home invasion dlc
so more scripted, lively scenarios?
yeah, kinda like that
swimming time
would actually slap
Im dropping the dlc right now as we speak
judge can’t even run so he’s probably like John Marston
homeless people rading homes kind of stuff
I think procedually genrated scenarios would be cool
Don't do em like that
yes i agree
Someone is gonna post that on reddit
yeah, kinda hard to make well

You know like you get a 911 call and a random mission pops up
hes very slow and stupid like me
That sounds scary
procedurally generated shoothouses are actually a cool idea tho
home squatters are horrifying
especially you aint allowed to hurt them or smth
i need the ronkart achievement
this is art
The achivements were probably released too early and due to that the variables for gaining them werent set up right so everyone literally just got them for doing jack
me and and a buddy went to Milwaukee to go to this mall called “North ridge mall” been abandoned for a while and we met a squatter
that or steam fucked up
probably that
was he nice
yeah but we did get scared. Didn’t expect anyone there
is it technically squatting if its an abandoned mall
he told us that the mall was haunted apparently, lived there for 12 years
12 years homeless is crazy
he is an addict
without wash or anything
I dont even know
I assume yes legally cause someone still owns it, either the one who abandoned it, a developer, or the city/state/feds
we were scared to get close
City owns it
Yeah p much
RON should do a payday collab
if you give him $20 the next hour he gets some packs cigarettes 😭
fuck that would go hard
that or crack
honestly an abandoned mall doesn't sound like a bad place for a homeless shelter.
a mission in an abandoned mall would be hella interesting
that will turn RoN into R6
Better than doing what they're doing here and tearing down the mall just to rebuild a new mall that will have high income housing next/ontop of it
or a shooter in a mall
yes, a better R6 in RoN would go hard
no bro ☠️
yeah true, like the March 22 incident
I forgot abt that
fuck that is gruesome thinking about that
i live like 10 min away from that mall
saw it go down
lmao an april fools update would be hilarious
must be something big to make the swat arrive
RoN can be the first game to take inspiration from the Trump-Rally incident.
It’d be a pretty short mission
... you already have pissed off vets in-game lore
or like a terrorist in a highrise would be so fucking interesting, like the bank skyscraper
yeah a fucking terrorist attack
true
Void is currently aware of the situation of two achievements unlocking for everyone and are aware of the issue. In the meantime, please refrain from making further bug reports about it unless a developer reaches out for questions.
Also remember to view the DLC Page on Steam to wishlist the upcoming DLC. #NotPaidPromo
Kaminsky (Community Manager): For anyone that has gotten both the 'After the Storm' and 'From home to home' achievements, it's a known issues and they're going to be removed and re-applied properly and won't unlock until you fufill the conditions to unlock them properly.
what did they lost is some lost place man
yk what, what if the narcos raided the police station
We didnt do much missions w narcos
having more instances of those guys would be so cool
Only pedos
yeah imagine you have to go back into a police station and kill the mass shooter
🤣🤣🤣
like the old police station from pre 1.0
the hotel mission
The hotel was one of the best
That one was awesome
Void did us all dirty with that one
really miss that one
real
who wants pizza
difficult bro
buffalo chicken pls
Exactly, more difficult missions are more fun
non lethal 
The Ready or Not suspects are lucky they don't have the PayDay SWAT in their universe
imagine being the Tran bros and a fucking Cloaker comes in and beats you all up
Or someguy with a fucking juggernaut suit and a minigun casually gets up from a bathroom stall.
I hate the swat from payday
get me 4 cheese bro
Good ol' Skulldozer
I'm convinced the Cloakers or Bulldozers from PayDay are just John ReadyorNot
cloakers are horrifying
I hit my knee on my desk a lot of times getting surprise attacked by them
Lmao
I fucking love how they are super tactical and stealthy operatives yet do impractical shit like unnecessary flips and trash talk you like in a MW2 Lobby
I love serious games that have unserious characters
Fr lmao
that's just PayDay, it's got this super whacky charm to it
somehow, you beat the shit out of a guy in a juggernaut/EOD suit with a comically large spoon
I honestly don't mind 3, it's just lacking in content
dead ahh game
Fighting against the cops feel like I'm fighting a tactical organized threat than the brainless police onslaught 2 had lmao
but y'know to each their own
also, did you guys ever do Beach House without reading the briefing first 😭
I recently got into this game after having it for so long and man, the second time I did Beach House, I went non-lethal
When I first played I didn’t check the briefing
then I did and felt horrible
yeah man; this game's got S-Tier environmental story telling. Like you see the one brother's room with selling the car, taking a loan, and gambling
Guys quick question, when you click at my pfp and you see activity, is it only the game or you can see spotify track playing as well??
no, only the game
thanks
Neither for me
weird
maybe update ds or smth
neither
hahaha
i do know that games override spotify
yk the person who showed me RON was my uncle
he still plays it, he used to be a county officer
cool unc
he plays w me and my two other buddies from school
that is so cool, Cell. For me, it's my one friend who's in the army who got it for me once; we always play together
have u ever asked what is his favorite mission?
he loves the campus one and that crazy guy who lives in the forest
he also likes the cartel tunnel one
ikr, so many trip wires
I died so many times from tripwired
I wanna get my girlfriend into RON but she isn’t good at tactical games
she plays minecraft and horror games more
get yourself a ron wife NOW.
i’m trying to wife her up
i am and life could not be better
eh, she can ease into it; I kinda sucked at this game too and usually my friend would carry. When I started playing Commander Mode tho, I could feel myself getting better
dude i’m a nerd at tactical games
Ayy I'm in
Only tactical games she played with me is insurgency sandstorm, arma 3
and ground branch
Real
she’s hilarious at playing tactical games, she panics a lot
anyone know where the mod folder is located at? Thanks
Can you get an S even if you kill criminals?
You need to make one I think
I don’t think so
no
nope
I imagine it’s hell to do so in missions like the nightclub
oh yeah it is
My friend downloaded 1 mod, uninstalled it, verified game files and the game still thinks he's modded
might be in paks
Unsubbing =/= deleting mod
What about the launching options?
@rich tendon how do I convince her to play ron with me, she says she likes the game but scared of getting shot from somewhere she can’t see
ummmmm im not sure
i was always into this game so i dont really know how to ease her into it
That’s not that big of an issue in RON
It’s way worse in squad
i’ll probably js do easy missions w her
yeah do gas station first
squad gave me and my friends ptsd
I even got a bit of ptsd from squad, I would close my eyes and hear bullets ricocheting nearby
The bullet cracks are horrifyinf
and give her the all customization unlock mod so she can play dress up before going into the mission
alr thank you, sounds good
way to a womans heart is dress up lmao
Without the mod you need to spend a good amount of time so the bots don’t shoot themselves on the foot
She loves making hilarious outfits
They can also have blahaj shark or whatever you call it with mods
and ironmouse guns
blahaj means blue shark
youre saying blue shark shark
I’ll probably add the among us suspect mod
Chai tea
OMG WHERE DO I GET THIS
i need my strangler gifs here
Lol i loved that mod
this looks like a godlike 3D scan
Sick, i’ll give it to her
Make her play escape from tarkov, that shit finna give her more PTSD than Vietnam
dude tarkov pullets are made of rubber
I shot some guy in the noggin 12-20 times and he didn’t die
I got shot once in the chest and died
BLAHAJ


SHE AGREED TO PLAY RIN WITH ME
LETSGOOO!

what got the HK416 renamed to again?
GA416
Uhhhh, roger that Entry Team, bag 'em and keep moving. 🗣️ 🔥
me when i kill all civs on a map
Side rant that randomly comes to mind from this message
Is the G19 a pea shooter or something I swear someone goes 5 bodyshots with it and they are fine
acceptable collateral damage
Dusting off the GSWs
depends on armour
just aim between the eyes
2 chest 1 head if ur in a panic
Or just shoot them in the face with any handgun really
You are loading AP at least right?
uz8uizkuik8hz,
9x19 ap is still awful against armor to the point where it's better to just free lean and pop them in the face
Yeah I've not been using the G19 yet
just saying that HP ammo isn't going to be helping since I've noticed it's auto-selected sometimes
I mainly run the M11 Compact
Because it looks cool
Hello, a question, will I be able to get the DLC achievements with friends?
totally........
i feel like im shooting air regardless
I suppose armor is good at stopping pistol rounds
I have 2 JHP 1 AP
I usually mag-dump with the pistol ngl
I dont like to but I have to or else they just absorb my bullets
Like I just did the brainjolt mission and I emptied my magazine into one guy after my primary ran out
(mainly since he was shooting me and I somehow survived with basically everything crippled)
Run a Five seveN
but Sig Pistol is cool
But the Glock 19 has so much more aura
Same with the MP5/10
the 57 makes every other handgun irrelevant considering it does what every other handgun does but better
the guns that arent as good just are cooler
NGL I hope we get more of the "older" supect guns added
357 Magnum actually kinda go crazy
wait guys they released dlc
I don't care the MPL is old and outdated, it was cool in Black Ops 1, I want it.
when
LMAO
i just looked in media and saw people
If you like knocking everyone out yeah
load JHP and go do out west
THE HOME INVASION LEVEL ACHIEVEMENTS
UNLOCKED! I DON'T EVEN HAVE THE GAME OPEN
no they didnt
The achievements I mean
check pinned message
Yes
I like peaking a corner taking my time to aim when they are out of ammo and obliterating them in one shot
I know it's reported, I'm saying that I somehow unlocked them with the game closed which I find funny
they added new guns?
3 new ones
ach so! Yeah, I saw it just in steam as well. Didn't open RON nothing
509, a conversion smg kit 509 it seems and I have no idea what the other one is
free lean meta?!?!?!?
any handguns
yes
holding alt and then A or D is actually cracked
deagle
check the dlc steam page
ew
True SWAT 4 expansion vibes
NGL I am still surprised they unlock THAT for single player and not the Colt Python which was at least actually used by Law enforcement
Also SWAT 4 deagle is bugged without mods and always has the slide locked back until you do an empty reload somehow.
Ok we're getting another AR-15 carbine
Where M14! just give me the M14 in the police station!
aren't we getting 2 PDW's and a pistol?
You can see it on the store page gif
if the pistol is a Desert Eagle I am going to cry
It's an AR-15 PDW at least.
It's not
you can literally see the pistol on the store page, it's not a Deagle.
phew
FN 509
okie dokie
I mean we already have several unrealistic weapons
dont spoil it 😭
Deagle as an option and suspect weapon would hardly be the most egregious
I might be really dumb but why would you be sad about a deagle?
okay 
Like if we had a Deagle with a small line-up I could see it being cringe but if you have a large weapon set, I'm ok with some silly ones, like a ye olde M14
2 pistols no one is gonna use and a reallllly short ar15 which will probably be meta if it doesn't have awful recoil
the short AR is a .300 blackout. this is gonna be nice
They should add a nail gun as a weapon
I just want them to pull a SWAT 3 and have all the suspect guns available.
That makes it even more meta considering .300 blk is just better than 5.56 in RoN
(Ok you couldn't take the AUG and one specific AR-15 version but that was it)
fuck yeah
Your SWAT unit could roll up with Makarovs and Skorpions
it literally has all of them on the dlc page
i want an RPK too then
Swat 4 m249
40mm grenade launcher
Well, if you install the official (almost all included nowadays) SWAT 3 official weapon mods:
Ares Shrike EXP-1/M60 and M249 SAW machine guns
Arwen 37 and M79 firing flashbangs and tear gas grenades.
You literally get three LMGs and two nade launchers
Also Drum Mag M4A1 and AKs
SWAT 3 is funny since the base-game loadout is fairly light and realistic then the official mod weapons go crazy
It also had beanbags being lethal to the face like RON unlike SWAT4
with elite force bean bags were lethal
so were tasers if you used them on people with poor health
Yeah that got modded in
SWAT 4 Vanilla only point-blank stingers can injure people
Funny enough the RTS SWAT 2 actually has flashbangs injure people but super weak
You only lose around 5 points of health (out of 100) from being right next to flashbang going off
So it's technically depicted there but you need to really excessively use them to harm anyone significantly
is there any way to even restart a singleplayer mission
Not in commander mode, yes in practice mode
in commander mode? alt + f4
fair
you're better off using practice mode to go through the campaign
commander mode is just for ironman really
Honestly just trying to S Rank a few missions
training mode yeah
Guess im turning on training wheels then
wait
i mixed them up
practice mode yeah
its the only time u get to use the og squad sadly
Any way I can make them all like non lethal
Yeah
I'd advice using a pepper launcher since giving the ai beanbag shotguns goes together like taco bell and a laxative
Really?
I've had 0 issues with giving my officers beanbags before (except that one time where one shot the last suspect with a sidearm)
I don't think it's that bad, but yeah. It could ruin some runs
eli may be the goat
mfw beanbag headshot
That kills? lmao
Yeah
a bean bag to the face realllly hurts
Good way to go to sleep
Hey any plans to rework ROE to reflect a more real life experience? I was noticing a few missions that would clearly fall under shoot first guidelines for most departments and even HRT. Maybe it’s already implemented and I’m just ignorant, but as an example, a heavily armed suspect approaching a hostage after having actively engaged in violent criminal activity would not require escalation of force.
the design is very human ahh method
Yes but most maps revolve around barricaded suspects ROE just because yes. Only one that doesn't is school I think.
players have the option to shoot on sight if they want, but the reason behind the roe system is just account for the ranks and if people want a challenge, they have to bring everyone alive. Its not necessarily punishing the player for using lethal; the game just wants players to give commands whenever possible.
afaik the rank system is all for cosmetics purposes and achievements
not really good or bad rating
some dude took a hostage and i flicked and shot the hostage 2 times before killing the actual suspect. am i a good officer of the law?
extremely good
such a skibity move
the RoE is pretty silly
you pretty much have to go out of your way to violate it
Why did they changed that incapacitated suspects don't give +35 no more is a real shit question
This makes sense, thank you for the clarification. All in all the ROE system is actually impressive for a video game. Me and my buddies are all ex SRT and we were talking about it.
i saw a incapacitated minor in the earlier stages of the game when commander mode didnt exist. i walked into a child room and saw the minor in pain bleeding out in the bed. now hear me out, i tought he/she was beyond saving. so i shot it. am i cooked?
honestly thinking about it i probaly do not deserve to have a gun
idk
I just got unauthorized use of force
I punched a lady because she got on her phone instead of getting on the ground o-o
Yea see that's what I think too, that was cool and now it ain't
Nah you're good.
She had it coming anyways 
love when they do the pulling out my wallet as fast as possible to the police officer
was gonna type something meaningful but i forgot im a special potato so i forgor
should add a mechanic that u can take suspects as meat shields 
This hasn’t been my experience. Well let me clarify, it has been occasionally. But when you join any response team whether that be military or law enforcement, they have something called “shoot first guidelines” and they’re largely not applicable in this game. Was just curious if this was to push players into asymmetrical engagements that aren’t realistic or to allow for the optional challenge.
I have certainly seen wild stuff happen that hasn’t been detected too but those are just silly moments. Blackbeards clarification answers my question perfectly.
I remember it used to be that if suspect was incapacitated and haven't bled out before round ends they would give +35 instead to the score which made sense cause well, shooting whole mag in dudes body isn't really cool move. But then it just got reveryed, pretty sad
Probably because enemies get incap'd very easily
once they drop to 50% they go down and since most weapons don't kill unless you mag dump or headshot (some weapons don't instant kill with headshots!!!) it would make A+ ranks realllly easy when going full lethal
hey i just got this game but have no idea how to play lol
u saying A+ is easy makes me sad and im probaly gonna go cry myself to sleep. best i got to was b+ how is it my fault they have guns. i shot them once in stomach they die
In this game you pretty much follow one thing
Guy has gun pointing down, no shoot first
Gun pointing straight (basically he's ready for shit), you can shoot
ironically S ranks with full non lethal are easier than A ranks with lethal weapons nowadays
hope u have the best sleep tonight. and i hope u win the lottery
True true, it was just pretty cool motivation to not mag dump full auto, which I don't do anyway but at least I got extra good job points for that
am i supposed to aim for headshot on suspects.
Understood.
Yeah that to me pushes players to endanger the public and hostages by engaging heavily armed suspects with an aversion to >less lethals. That explains why some lobbies insist on only allowing less than lethal kits even when they make zero sense.
Appreciate you bro 🍻
All because grenades work pretty wonky not gonna lie, anything can obstruct their line of effect. And you can't throw them sideways but AI can lol
Yeah non lethals are people who want perfect score rather than realistic experience, be that realistic experience I wouldn't have 5 guys against 20 or so crackheads haha.
Ahh you make a very good point. Didn’t even consider that.
Also silly fact:
SMGs (specifically the MP5s) have a comically amount of recoil if your arm is damaged 
God I love bringing 15 wedges and just wedging every single door in Spider
Crackheads built different thats all
Can confirm that. Mk18 too
I still don't understand how that little thing can make doors immovable
Something else that would be a great addition to this game is insta death/detainment for suspects and civilians if they exit the building. Inner cordone would definitly be staged with officers and overwatch, so it doesn’t break realism for most missions imho.
Can confirm, I give each of my ai teammates a shitload of jams that they use to block every door in sight
I don't either! no complaints though
I'm pretty sure they confirmed in a newsletter a while ago that they're planning on adding perimeter officers to maps
Ahh, outstanding. Going to be an awesome addition for sure.
That's for sure lol, put that yellow guy under fence door that's clearly too high for it to work and only ram or explosive can move this behemoth
Aslong as there's no flanks i'm happy
I remember some of the coolest moments in SWAT 4 having Sierra 1 and 2 pulling overwatch as playable. Really fun to make a team in Raven Shield as well to pull this for your entry teams. Dynamically so.
My trailers work 
Yo guys, what u think about add a mod ornmaybe not mod, dlc be, we can play all Maps in day OR night, so we can chose
Yo guys, I'm having a problem, I can't change my primary weapon like i'm stuck using a shotgun and i can't change it to a Rifle, anyone knows something?
have you gone to the weapon bench?
Today I didn't even have to use my AK, I gotta say it was a good day
anybody got some tips for S-tiering Greased Palms?
I'm not so sure, I saw a video of the flux raider gameplay in game and assumed it's a mod, however it doesn't come with the mod link or anything. I remember seeing it in the ready or mod discord server. lemme try to find it
here's the link of the video, if you go search it up on YouTube. there's actually more videos of it
Huh
i think thats a mod...
That's over a year old
ah I found it in ready or mod #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message
ballistic has had one for a while now
Hey guys, how I do I disable the "visual bugs" DLC in game or that's not an option?
Come again?
Define visual bugs dlc
yeah it's so annoying
With or without friends
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I messaged him, he said "Idk, I got it when I opened RoN today"
its a know. bug
Question: What on earth does "THE LOST" role mean?
Oh really, okay
its for the arg
Anyways, someone on the VOID team 100% got fired for this 
i got a new mouse pad and this thing is way too smooth
holy shit. its smoother than the glass mouse pad i had
bruh
You got a dirty ass mouse pad
nope. i broke the last one
How tf do you break a mouse pad?
how dpo you break a mousepad?
fortnite matches
omg just like your brain 
thats mean
Shush
hiii 
read
read?
What you want
how are you patrick?
You broke your mousepad by reading? How short temper do you have
nah he stated it was a glass one earlier
hey man it gets frustrating. you never read a book probably
Uh I’m good, you still haven’t answered me Lina
yeah i agree
preach brother
good good 
Vivien, Lina doesn’t answer me when I ask how she is. Ask for me. I slide 50 bucks
how are youuu girlie
the flow of information gets me angry sometimes
thats why i read picture books

less information because meant for children

you should read Franz Kafka's work, there's one that hits close to home and its Letter to Father
Its not really a book, its a letter to his abusive father and has 45 pages
His books never miss
most of them are depressing
If you ever change your mind, they are really good
Kafka himself was struggling very much with life
So his work projects it, and it does that very well
lemme guess his dad just burned them
wait im stupid
can we get someone to check up on vaseek
it never got to him
Kafka gave it to his mother and she didnt want to pass it to him so she gave it back
I feel so emberassed for how stupid I am


stop blink reacting me 
EVERYONE BLINK REACT THIS PERSON^^^^^^^^^
i love stolenblink

is the lore that you stole it?
Yes. and alot of others did the same
from me!!
it just went like stolenstolenstolenstolenstolenblink
before most of those people got yeeted from NDAcord
thx 
yeeted???
yeah they were defenestrated
kel
kelsey
real
there will be a youtube documentation about it in 10 years
yes
all i know is that i was universally hated by most of the then-active members for some reason
from what i remember, i REALLY liked tarkov and they REALLY did not like tarkov
me too me too



are you ok?
do i seem not okay?
you do, have a hug 🫂
🫲
what

it saves automatically
anyone wanna play ina min no tards be tactical please
Chat I'm doing neon tomb with non lethals wish me luck
I thought sins of the father, greased palms, valley of the dolls and sinuous trails were hard
Judging by all the videos I've seen I think I'll start to cry
(Why I have a Non-Lethal setup is because I want that sweet old S)
Important notice, have patience for Suicide Bombers.
They won't always surrender no matter how you do it.
I FORGOT ABT SUICIDE BOMBERS
NOOOO
AHAHAHH
need a partner?

NOOOOOOOOO HE REMEMBERED
SINS OF THE FATHER WITHIN NEON TOMB(developers didnt fix the suicide vests)
I gotta do it on commander mode 😭
(i died about 20 times on elephant because of corner campers and mysterious john wicks)
oh have fun lol
man's having pre-1.0 update
i hate and love this game at the same time
the John Wick mode
.
chat guess how many times i'll die on neon tomb (with non lethal setup)
wait till the last mision non lethal
i need that S tho 
If it doesn't have suicide bombers its not that hard
The bigger problem is that my fucking swat ai even though I ensured they dont have lethal ammo, keep pulling out magical bullets out of their and kill suspects
Dont find them that much of a problem
They just didn't surrender on our walkthrough and we were 4 officer players.
I mean
Somebody who is willing to khs
Doesnt easily give up because of some pepperspray
If you keep shooting them with a beanbag they will surrender
It will just take a lot more than you think
my teammate got killed
its over for me bruh
gta 6 will come out earlier than I S this mission
nanan we s'd it
took us like 30 tries?? I can send you stream recording of HOW we did it so you can see and follow
i forgot i had a swat and suspect ai overhaul..
Oh yeah, AI overhaul downgrades AI to pre-1.0.
is pre 1.0 better or worse
the update before 1.0 made them more bareable. this is my honest opinion, for whatever reason the 1.0 update made them go wacky
IT DID. Pre-1.0 is John Wick headshot mode from AI.
yeah i remember
oh so thats why i was getting skull ####ed
Yeah.
But I think in that version they surrendered. The suicide bombers. In 1.0 it's a struggle to get them there.
wait so does the overhaul make neon tomb easier or harder?
I suspect that Pre-1.0 overhaul kept the aimbots on bots, but the suicide bombers there felt easiesr. After 1.0 it's really hard to make suspect suicide bombers surrender.
After 1.0 made SUICIDE BOMBERS HARDER TO SURRENDER.
Are they using Beanbags? Those kill on a headshot
taser has 100% surrender chance
Taser my beloved
Not used it in RON yet but almost everyone surrenders after one on SWAT 4/Target Liberty
if only it would work consistently for everyone else but the host
(TL even lets you "force arrest" the few that dont while in the tased animation)
BULLSHIT!
WE TRIED THAT! IT DID NOT WORK!
did you tase the guy? or did it miss
Shoutout to Stechkov adding the two shot taser
if the dude starts shaking like he get hit by 400 volt of electricity then it means you hit that shit
I will say, Target Liberty did this too, I like how RON LTL weapons are notably risky to use
Both beanbags/pepperballs dont always stun in one shot
beanbag always staggered enemies consistently for me
I love SWAT 4 but unless you were fighting gas mask and armor suspects, pretty easy to non-lethal
Yeah but it feels shorter than SWAT's
Actually need to be ready for a second shot most of the time
understandable
beanbag stun only for 3 seconds, is some cases for 8. Pepperball always stun for 8 s
WE SHOT AT HIM 3 OFFICERS IN THE TEAR GAS WITH BEANBAGS, PEPPERBALLS AND TASER GUN, HE KEPT ON PULLING THE STRING ANIMATION
lmao gonna try neon club S today and see
if bomber to close you cant make him surrender unless you make some distance
Join the voice chat at More Coop, I'll explain you how it is.
just FYI this game has sone desync issues when it comes to taser
he also can be soft locked sometimes, but in this case he wont even pull out wire
He was softlocked at pulling that shit.
pretty sure he was just too close to one of your teammates
Yea seen it before. It's a really shit bug. From what I've seen and I could be wrong it's only caused by pepperball. Any other form of non lethal won't matter if you open with pepper ball
Probably
I'm glad you did and I don't have to prove you this.
For neon I do beanbag and flash. Using any form of gas or pepperball can cause it.
This and the moon walking is what really irritates me with this game :/
hot take, gas is better than flashes
you should blink yourself NOW
Yes I totally agree. But if you wanna avoid that bug specifically on neon tomb that's the way :/
yeah shit be like that, it just really frustrating when flash gets stuck on some texture right next to suspect and then its area of effect gets clipped into that texture. gas ignore any obstructions tho
I'm glad you elaborated it!
But Stinger go BOOM
Since MLO are supposed to be somewhat equal, I wonder if they'll let them use nades against us in campaign
Do hwat
Playing SWAT Global Strike Team and suspects actually throw flash/tear gas at you rarely
stinger is better than flash but suffers same problem
Where is the MLO in the game currently besides a couple references?
Itd definitely make MLO uniquely dangerous if they can fight tactically like you
I assume because of those references, they are planned
They already have character models
Honestly with the direction the lore is looking I don't think they'll be an opposite faction like that. Maybe idk
Since they were in the PVP build
I liked SWAT 2 having a somewhat equal footing terrorist faction since it made you be alot more careful towards the end
A Five Eyes terrorist could outright toss a frag grenade at you if you let them and take out an element
I liked it, made them feel far more dangerous than some regular robbers





