💬general-discussion

[runic aspen]

wow such a bitch

[edgy bear]

what does this mean?

[runic totem]

it-it-it means...

[fallen sail]

Up to interpretation

[runic aspen]

so sugoi

[edgy bear]

im confused now

[fallen sail]

ron community is a lost cause

run now

[edgy bear]

nah, ima do my own thing

[runic aspen]

this is why people get bullied

right here everyone take notes

[edgy bear]

how?

my fault for making a spiderman reference i guess😭

[runic aspen]

better

[waxen latch]

close to 200k members and 6 users being the most active probably highlights the best or the worst of us, however you may want to interpret that

[edgy bear]

me fr

[fallen sail]

This is the village of the damned

[edgy bear]

so i take it nobody has gzw

[fallen sail]

guhduwhat now?

oh gray zone

[waxen latch]

the gay zone

[fallen sail]

That game needs more time in the oven than ron

[edgy bear]

yeah, i asked earlier and i got an essay

[runic aspen]

banned

rampant homophobia

prove innocence by sending grindr profile rn

[edgy bear]

ik, the devs need to work on their servers adn not having 12 hohur live streams

[waxen latch]

💀

[runic aspen]

teehee

[fallen sail]

It has some cool features but there isn't much of a game

[edgy bear]

and the rubberbanding is insane

[waxen latch]

they just needed more time, but then again, dont we all

[fallen sail]

I really wish it was more of an arma sandbox than an extraction shooter

[runic aspen]

needed more time in the womb this one

[edgy bear]

i was born early......

[runic aspen]

im sorry ionknow whats gotten into me today

[fallen sail]

the spirit of ron drives you

[waxen latch]

dropping their supporter versions right as tarkov fell was such a good timing

bunch of people just migrated

[runic aspen]

do u split the bill50/50

[edgy bear]

i was tempted to buy one of them, but i wanna wait until the game gets updated a lil before i drop more money on a defective game

[waxen latch]

No, cause restaurants are a scam

[runic aspen]

so u a home cook
I see 👀

[fallen sail]

Its crazy how BSG is consistently being a dogshit company to everyone yet it still has supporters

[waxen latch]

Sweden syndrome, or something along those lines

[fallen sail]

Its like that one game i like

[mental osprey]

Isn't that just most companies nowadays?

[fallen sail]

Apple pisses me the fuck off to be fair

But yeah, brand loyalty despite the fact there is nothing to be loyal to

[edgy bear]

is it the swedish game im thiniking of?????

[fallen sail]

Even worse when there's game studios who are completely different teams working on completely different games

[runic aspen]

macos and ios integration is creamy

[fallen sail]

que?

[edgy bear]

MINECRAFT!!!!!!!!!

[fallen sail]

Nah fuck minecraft, all my homies play modded old versions

[edgy bear]

old versions are fire ngl

[fallen sail]

But i've gotten sick of it, probably for good

It's a fine game, don't get me wrong, but i think i played it too much

Too many times starting from scratch and too many worlds lost to the passage of time

[edgy bear]

i don't blame you, it gets to a point where you dont really have anything to do adn the game nowadays can get boring pretty quick

[fallen sail]

I technically still haven't beaten the dragon

But i've gotten to it more times than i recall

[mental osprey]

Is the combat system the only reason people prefer older versions of minecraft or is there something else?

[fallen sail]

Old minecraft was simpler, there's all theese new mechanics and items that bloat the game to no end

It's easier to place that childlike wonder on something simple

[edgy bear]

so kinda like nastolgia?

[hidden stream]

Is game good yet

[fallen sail]

Not entirely, it's hard to put my finger on it

[mental osprey]

I mean, where is the line drawn between adding new content and unnecessary bloat?

I know they've been adding plenty of items that have little to no use though

[modest fern]

Newer MC tries to feel complicated like mods do, while at the same time adding useless shit slowly

Best I can do is 1 mob

[fallen sail]

You just have less stuff in the back of your head, it's easier to start autopiloting on old minecraft compared to the new, more complicated one

[mental osprey]

So is it mostly just the amount of content rather than what's in the content?

[fallen sail]

Maybe? It's a tough question

[modest fern]

It's more like Mojang has become, there's a term for it I'm forgetting, stale and overconfident in what is already there?

[mental osprey]

Tons of people complain about updates being slow, is the game having too many updates or too few updates, I'm confused

[modest fern]

They don't try new big stuff anymore, the game is the same game for the most part but with slightly new stuff. It doesn't matter if they add new stuff to explore with if for the most part most players do not explore past a certain point.

[fallen sail]

Different people want different things i suppose

[runic aspen]

its microsoft

mojang spirit long gone

[modest fern]

Mojang does like one major update every year or two, and when they do add stuff, most of the time it's just relatively small stuff

[fallen sail]

In reality i'm really against this whole idea of "games needing to be constantly updated and upkempt"

Some games are better just stopping at one spot

[mental osprey]

I mean, if it arguably improves the game then I don't see why not

When it's the unnecessary stuff you're talking about, sure

[modest fern]

I'd argue they also like to make fun of the community

The mob vote is such a stupid idea for what Mojang is

[mental osprey]

I can't wait for the next violent revolution

[runic aspen]

it doesnt add much new
just a sort of more convoluted way to do the old thing

[fallen sail]

Just because it "technically" adds to the game doesn't automatically make the game better, there's always that sweet spot

[modest fern]

I mean they literally put more effort into their april fool updates than other major updates

[fallen sail]

Too much and the game is bloated, too little and you've got something stale

There's this fine line that cannot be defined

[modest fern]

Here's how it is for me: It's an exploration game that punishes you for exploring until endgame.

They want you to spend a lot of time exploring and grinding to beat the ender dragon, but the best they give you is a horse. And then after you beat the ender dragon, you have elyctras, and at that point there isn't anything really to do besides check things off a list

[mental osprey]

Yeah, I guess that's a fair point

[modest fern]

I'm literally playing All The Mods 9 right now and I explore because I have reliable ways to get home and explore, I can travel 10k+ blocks and get home fast when my inv is full

[mental osprey]

Either way I feel like it isn't a very good development philosophy to have adding more now mean you can't add more later

As long as you keep it well-rounded

[modest fern]

They don't though, for how big the company is, it doesn't feel like they do anything with MC

[fallen sail]

That's kind of how gamedev works really

[mental osprey]

Which as you guys said they aren't doing a very good job of doing

[fallen sail]

The more you add now the harder it will be to add stuff later

[modest fern]

People meme on RoN, but holy shit the modding community is literally an entire different game for normal mods

[mental osprey]

From like a technical standpoint? That's not really what I'm talking about

[modest fern]

People also added in all 3 mobs within days of them being announced for the mob vote

[mental osprey]

They're forcing us to fight among ourselves for their own entertainment

[fallen sail]

That mob vote thing is so unnecessary and it's basically just mojang being clowns for entertainment

Or rather mojang hosting a coliseum fight

[mental osprey]

It's still funny to me how a song about the rich exploiting the vulnerable during Covid became a main theme for the protests around the mob vote

That's just how the world goes I suppose

[mental osprey]

This totally wasn't just an excuse to bring up Poor Man's Poison because I like their music

[green yarrow]

is it bad if the game timer goes to the negatives

[waxen latch]

in ron?

[green yarrow]

yes

[edgy bear]

shouy out to pmp fr

[modest fern]

It means you're about to die

[strong thorn]

Havent played this game in a looong while just downloaded the update excited to be back. Any major changes?

[spark heath]

siktir git seni kaltak

[final brook]

New cosmetics

[slate flame]

New firearms to use at the crackheads

New maps and such

I get to raid a furry

Michael Williams canonically has a fur suit

[modest fern]

His brother is the furry

[stark scaffold]

didn't know that

RoN lore

[fluid heart]

how do i change my safe mode settings so it allows mods

[night oxide]

[fluid heart]

🙏

[runic aspen]

Any chance anyone here is good with material modding I think I might be going crazy

[modest fern]

Scientists can't answer this

[fluid heart]

Did it

Is there a way when you kill a civilian you DONT die

like a mod

[modest fern]

When did we add that

Who's adding random stickers

[fluid heart]

chill

[modest fern]

I'm not upset

They just appear randomly one day

Who's doing it

[fluid heart]

they should add a flintlock to the game

[waxen latch]

i just noticed

[stark scaffold]

that one was gerb looks like

[waxen latch]

does anyone has that 1984 cat picture

[waxen latch]

it would be a good pick

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/612550616966889482/1215003441362112522/f7756a9c1d7c98dfde53aed9e28e4b9f3bc2932381c37b3d3945a53bb4ab49f4_1.jpg.jpg?ex=66352d22&is=6633dba2&hm=0fbfeb0e90b4cc537fc4c88d025065396dc2e09f08fdb3dc5668867ca8911f74&=&format=webp&width=1084&height=732

[night oxide]

Gerby

[stark scaffold]

how's everyone doing?

[thick cargo]

[runic aspen]

Planning a revolution after you took our stickers

[shadow shard]

All for the Live Prez Reaction.

[frosty token]

NOT THE OTHER CAT?

caps

[hollow mica]

No problems here, officer

[broken gyro]

🖕

[shadow shard]

🖕

[broken gyro]

it took you a really long time to type that

[uneven cipher]

Hello

[shadow shard]

Nah

[broken gyro]

ya

[hollow mica]

How would you fellas pass your silly inspection? I already know how I'd pass mine

[broken gyro]

d

[shadow shard]

Nah

[uncut rover]

@iron kindle not afk mic isnt working for some reason

@fair light @stark kernel mic no work am not afk

[stark kernel]

ok

[uncut rover]

im playing with specs which are tthat of peanut

walnut maybe

[frosty token]

why is the F90 so good

[plucky dirge]

australian quality

[frosty token]

i just witnesssed a meth head go flying across a bedroom then ragdoll into a wall then go limp on the floor, this game is 10/10

my top ron moment of all time

its like he died for a second and then the meth restarted his heart, a ron miracle https://imgur.com/a/orlGX23

i cant get over how funny it is

i genuinely thought he was dead

awww fuck, its still funny after the 15th time

[sleek blade]

Its also my fav weapon. Compact and uses rifle rounds

[frosty token]

its the first one i picked just because im australian and i havent found a reason to not use it yet

[obtuse talon]

What equipment is ideal to bring for Ides of march?

[tough bear]

50 cs grenade,m320 gas m320 gas m320 gas

it worked for me

[obtuse talon]

Should I equip everyone with gas masks?

[tough bear]

yes.

and m320 gas,and more cs grenade.

[obtuse talon]

thx

[tough bear]

(im actually fr)

[crisp berry]

kill everyone except for 3 suspects

you need them alive

[peak jackal]

why the fuck the ai are so insane,fucking aimbot,wall bang,see u through the whole room,unlimited ammo,crazy ass health,01 reaction time

[tight breach]

Do you use enough CS gas and door wedges?

[jolly lake]

use heavy ceramic armor then it doesn't matter if you get shot

[peak jackal]

nah bro i am and those motherfuckers can still kill me or bot swat within 3 shots

🤣

[jolly lake]

Shotguns are pretty good if you're rushing in

just start blasting you won't need to aim

[peak jackal]

forget it,i guess everyone's experience jsut aint the same

[runic aspen]

hi

[hoary sapphire]

Goofy ahh no embed perms

Shits ass

[peak jackal]

somehow the game wont let u put peq and flashlight at the same time like ground branch

lol

[abstract geyser]

GRAYZONE RELEASED

ion know if ima buy it rn ppl say its kinda mid atm but its gonna be pro when they actually make it good

seems pretty nice to me rn tho

[sinful forge]

Another early access tactical fps?

[frosty token]

im up to greased ppalms for my ironman mode, awwwww shit

[tough bear]

34 bucks,im going broke

[carmine bloom]

What’s the best thing you could get out of a car

🚗

[frosty token]

drugs/laid

money

[carmine bloom]

Wowee! You know what you want from the bottom of the barrel

[runic totem]

Fax its seems like indie devs are allergic to finishing their game

And then alot of people start overglorfiying them

Only reason gray warfare released was to bank off the tarkov drama and it came with buyable DLC

Seems familar

[frosty token]

does the kicker trait work?

[runic aspen]

test it and find out

[frosty token]

why tread the path that has already been troded

[runic aspen]

*trotted, and because it's fun

not like it's hard to enable the kicker trait and then

[frosty token]

no i said troded

[runic aspen]

troded isn't a word

[frosty token]

lol i know

[runic aspen]

it's spelt trotted, it's the past tense of tread

[frosty token]

theres trodden

[runic aspen]

trodden not troded

[frosty token]

troded sounds better

[nocturne kraken]

goodmorning yall how are yall doing

[lime scroll]

the multiplayer down for everybody?

[frosty token]

[dusty hornet]

gm, its alright

[frosty token]

its official, the vks is utter garbage in comparison to the almighty, superior beanbag launcher

i have the seen the greatest men of our times brought to their knees, humbled, by the noble spirited beanbag

never seen a vks do that

[sinful forge]

Why finish my game and then release it when I can treat it like my art: Pump out the sketches and doodles, get crippling creative block, and neglect to ever finish them

[tidal nymph]

hi guys

[barren creek]

i love 80 fps on all lows with a 4060!!

[dusty hornet]

ron common L

[mortal trench]

I love unfinished sketches

[red jay]

vks makin bros cough like they first hit of a itty bitty roach

[jolly lake]

Who is this "Ron" and how can I get him to make NSFW sketches in the locker room

[tidal swift]

anyone want to join a ready or not rp server

[rose yacht]

is there a progression system or something

[runic aspen]

literally an unoriginal named game

"Grayzone Warfare" crazy name

[nova carbon]

its js a game name

[oak rose]

Good evening everyone, sorry for my broken language, but I would like to know when there will be a new patch for the game?, I would like a new map or new things for the game.

[night oxide]

Excellent question

To answer that we have to enter the world of termodynamics

[stark coral]

anyone na looking for lethal

[mortal trench]

ready or not

gta

[knotty star]

for some reason, when i start a modded map, my hands are invisible, does anyone know why this happens? for clarification, yes, i do have other mods,

[river oar]

hey

[ripe nexus]

Does this game have controller support yet? If not, when can we expect controller support?

[modest fern]

There is no eta or confirmation

[crisp berry]

void HATES controller players
trust me

[gaunt holly]

This is true

[green tusk]

IMO it would only come with a console port, but there’s no confirmation on that either from official sources.

Only option in the meantime is third party software.

[rose yacht]

is there any chance of some kind of progression system

even just like an infinite level like in phasmo before Ascension

if not is there a mod that adds it

nvm

on the mod part

[inner jay]

Goodnight

[jovial hollow]

Finally got an S on post office

🥲

[wraith elk]

guys im currently on sins of the father

i neutralized all contacts

and did like search and clear

but for some reason it still shows that the mission is not done

even though ive literally looked around the map multiple times for civilians

[frosty token]

sometimes you have to restrain incapacitated suspects, even though theyre unconscious

just run around spamming yelkl for complaince and the "search room" command in every room

[frail matrix]

I just installed ready or not

[runic totem]

L i guess

[frosty token]

nice, thats the hardest i think, not by much though

[frosty token]

good luck

[ivory python]

I just installed ready or not also

[runic totem]

i just installed Call of Duty: Future Warfare (NX1) from Developer Neversoft

[frail matrix]

ths~!

[frosty token]

pepper spray is useless, i emptied a whole bottle into somesones face at point blank range yelling for compliance he then proceeds to shoot me square in the plate carrier with a shotgun, also at point blank range

[next hollow]

so should the pepper spray just jam their gun

[frosty token]

it should make him drop his gun i would think, but idk never peppered spray a guy with a shotgun before

do you think if they introduced female officers the criminals will refrain from sexist insults?

"dont touch me bitch, i dont want your cooties"

[rich tendon]

hi prez

[mental osprey]

"These ghoddamn liberals turnin our police departments woke..."

[frosty token]

lmao

[mortal trench]

I hope they insult my female character ^-^

hiiii prez

[frosty token]

is this like a love triangle like zendaya's latest movie?

[mortal trench]

._.

[frosty token]

If you say so.

[mortal trench]

live prez reaction

[frosty token]

https://tenor.com/view/zendaya-tashi-duncan-challengers-gif-2056348523882634311

heheheh

[mortal trench]

it's actually a love rectangle

[frosty token]

im currently in a love dodecahedron

60 people involved

https://tenor.com/view/quick-maths-mans-not-hot-gif-11163522

[shadow shard]

You're poly? Based.

[obtuse quail]

@gloomy rain is 11 please ban him

specialy before tuco gets him

[jolly fulcrum]

yeah hes talking about innapropiate things like at the age of 9 askinf to give facials and backshots

[stark scaffold]

Please record evidence and send it to TOC, the moderation bot

[jolly fulcrum]

bro join the vc lol

[stark scaffold]

Busy right now

[obtuse quail]

join vc

[fallow brook]

Yo guys
Just finished S ranking every mission on my friend's account
Is it worth buying the game besides main "story" gameplaywise?
Really liked it, but feel like there's nothing more to do

[modest fern]

If you played every mission, then you've already beaten the entire game, all that would be left to do (assuming you buy it on your acc) is to re-play everything for S-rank and the achievements. Unless you're just playing for fun.

[stark scaffold]

modded maps are always a choice too

not necessarily part of the main story but they can be fun

[livid plaza]

try going for the "The Hermit" achievement. that's a fun but infuriating time

[modest fern]

(Matthew is biased as a map author)

Legally must disclose that

[livid plaza]

As a non-author, I agree with him though. Especially the SWAT 4 ports that some people have made

[stark scaffold]

true, lol

[bronze adder]

SKIBIDI

[jolly fulcrum]

join vc i dont have nitro

clips to big

[shadow shard]

You can upload it on Google Drive...

[jolly fulcrum]

cant upload it on anything for some reason

[fallow brook]

Ok, thx to y'all
Btw, is there anything that devs wanna add to the game or it's a final product with no big updates in the future

[stark scaffold]

quite a lot planned.

Newsletters show stuff for the future too

[mortal trench]

do we get mini nukes?

[shadow shard]

"Ready or Not 1.2"
aka "fuck knows what we're gonna add or do but this update must come out during fall 2024"

[fallow brook]

Oof, then buying it for sure, ty again

[ivory python]

no

You get mega nukes

[mortal trench]

I eated them

[obtuse quail]

why did u leave

lil bro said he nutted on keybnoard

[jolly fulcrum]

have it clipped

[livid plaza]

uses the fat man from fallout 4 to clear the outside of valley of the dolls

[river depot]

The latch that holds in the gpu

[obtuse quail]

wdym

[river depot]

It stuck

[livid plaza]

toss the computer. drop 2 grand on a new one

[river depot]

Bout to fr

But you deadass tho

[coral mirage]

New to this game worth buying it?

[river depot]

Yea

[livid plaza]

nah but fr, dont be afraid to use a decent amount of force to disengage the latch. wont hurt your motherboard

[shadow shard]

Just message @long summit with evidence. The rest of this server does not need to know this.

[obtuse quail]

they came in vc and did nothing lol ggs tho

[modest fern]

We are reviewing the evidence, thank you for the report. We will take it from here

[livid plaza]

rare discord mod W?

[obtuse quail]

wwwish i could heart you message lil bro

[mortal trench]

doubt

[livid plaza]

idk it looks like it here

[mortal trench]

sounds like standard procedure to me

30% success rate

[frosty token]

lmao what

[livid plaza]

who knows, but one thing's for certain: his mama is failing him

[frosty token]

is that ironman mode with no officers lost? im trying to do that now made it to greased palms then an officer quit :/

[turbid leaf]

can i give you a few hundred dollars

[livid plaza]

yeah. the optimal strategy for it is to disregard score and make your and the AI's loadouts as lethal and heavy as possible

[frosty token]

but then they quit and that cancels the achievment?

if they could quit i wouldve finished it by now lol

[shadow shard]

Again, the rest of this server full of dumbasses and weirdos does not need to know the details.

[livid plaza]

yeah. losing an officer to death or quitting nullifies the achievement

[frosty token]

its good entertainment

[frosty token]

i went to exfil on greased palms because i didnt bring enough ammo and thats when an officer quit.... the stress of exfil, i was on a good run

[shadow shard]

And a perfect opportunity to show how immature you are. And a perfect opportunity for a pedophile to open this server.

Because hahaha 9 year old is talking sex in a public server, how funny. 🙃

[obtuse quail]

yet your still draggin it on

so shut up alr lol damn

[shadow shard]

Delete the messages and I will. My point still stands.

[obtuse quail]

w

[frosty token]

honestly i dont think there is a better gun for the ironman mode than the beanbag shotty, it insta stuns and reduces stress of the officers, then have the 357 as back up, but a single bean bag anywhere on the body insta stuns and a headshot kills if theyre holding a hostage

[livid plaza]

bruh you ever think you might burn out your last two brain cells if you try to overthink things like you are right now?

[stark scaffold]

Let's stop

[livid plaza]

true. i actually ran half beanbag and half lethal on my officers

[frosty token]

the reaction amplifies the initial hilarity of it

[frosty token]

ill bring the m1014 on harder/claustrophobic levels but keep the rest of my team NL for stress reduction

[shadow shard]

There's a reason why most cases are encouraged to be handled in private. And it didn't take me more than 5 seconds. :P

[stark scaffold]

Last warning, stop

[shadow shard]

Eyy, mods doing their job. Wonder when that'll happen outside of the usual US timezone.

[frosty token]

call LSPD

[obtuse quail]

w mod fr fr

[livid plaza]

yeah like the only levels you really need a 1014 are 23 mbps and lethal obsession

[shadow shard]

Gas and flash everything ftw.

[frosty token]

i got a pretty good strat for 23mbps with just beanbag wedge and gas, sinuos trail can be a bit hectic with only beanbag

[livid plaza]

i found it pretty manageable if you clear roof first and use the beanbag as a sniper for the server room

[frosty token]

only downside of the almighty bag of magic beans is that is cant shoot through glass or windows frames apparently

[livid plaza]

thats what your secondary is for

[frosty token]

can kill a grown human, but not penetrate glass

[shadow shard]

RoN's penetration for players' guns is hilarious, yeah.

[frosty token]

yeah but takes up precious grande slots for ammo

beanbag should go through glass lol

[livid plaza]

nah you really only need one magazine since there are only 8 windows between the two server rooms

like if you use the five seven, youre in the clear

[fallow brook]

True
Used 5-7 and a beanbag for my iron man solo

[livid plaza]

yeah that's exactly how i did it

[frosty token]

well i just died on twisted nerve with like two rooms to go to my own teams breach charge lmao, i was too gun ho

[runic aspen]

Real talk, my uncle has years of combat experience from beating his wife, do you guys think he's fit to be a SWAT Operator?

[rose yacht]

yea sure

[shadow shard]

No.

[frosty token]

call domestic abusers on the domestic abusers, smart, fight fire with fire

[mortal trench]

prime candidate

[frosty token]

could backfire though, they could then team up on the suspect

[mortal trench]

I thought that was common practice in edge cases

[frosty token]

causing a wildfire, so to speak, of domestic abusers

fire

three fire analogies in a row, you cant beat that

fresh ironman mode lets goooooooooo

nothing like firing an unprovoked beanbag square in someones solar plexus

and getting away with it

completely legal

[frosty token]

JHP rounds or AP?

[livid plaza]

i ran AP the whole time. it was more useful across the board than JHP in my experience

also lowkey flex, i got the regular ironman and zero death achievements in the same run

[frosty token]

im doing it all in one run too hahah, but i mean ive failed a fair few runs too, my two highest runs are ides of march and greased palms

just had a twisted nerve run and didnt have to take a single step into the tunnels yay

[runic aspen]

is 5.56 jhp an actual thing

[cosmic wind]

what now

[dusty hornet]

yes?

[cosmic wind]

anywho how yall doing

[frosty token]

i just had an officer die on spider on my ironman run, not good

[livid plaza]

spider on ironman is best done by clearing the roof first

[static elm]

Rip

[static elm]

Idk I like going In and rawdogging the front entrance

[frosty token]

back up to it, all g

[frosty token]

im running 3 wedges and i box the motherfuckers in

[static elm]

I run 2 paramedics on the tougher maps

So I can save two officers and not lose score

[frosty token]

what does paramedic even do?

[static elm]

Saves the life of an incapacitated officer

[frosty token]

"I'm not trapped in here with you, you're trapped in here with me"

[static elm]

I haven’t tested but I believe it also includes your life if the ai clears the mission without you

Thereby saving your Ironman

[frosty token]

so if they die in front of me they come back to life after the mission?

[static elm]

Paramedics can only save 1 person tho and it looks like it’s RNG

But yes

[frosty token]

so two paramedics = two officers saved or just two paramedics incase one of the paramedics dies in the mission?

[static elm]

Both

I have yet to have more than one officer die so I can’t test if two paramedics actually saves two

[frosty token]

hmmm and it works even if the officer is headshotted, like dead, not just incapacitated?

[static elm]

I believe so

[frosty token]

ill start using it then!

[static elm]

It’s hard to tell sometimes if your officer is downed or dead, but I’ve never had an issue with getting my officers back so long as the paramedics survive

I normally run paramedic, intimidator, armorer, nutritionist.

[frosty token]

yeah ive had incpacitated officers and it always says dead in the mission and they come back after a few missions even though i dont have paramedic

[static elm]

Yeah incapacitated one’s just need some time off, tho I think paramedic brings them back right away

[frosty token]

im wondering if its worth running all sbags and just headshotting everyone no warning ahahah

[static elm]

Idk I press F and LMB at the same time lmaoo

I only don’t if the dudes just standing there in the middle of the hallway and not moving despite yells for compliance

[frosty token]

i usually beanbag them then yell, with live ammunition ill give em a chance just to not stress the fragile officers

the best part is you can even beanbag civilians with no penalty lol

[crisp berry]

i thought my ai would kick down the door first try so when he failed to kick it down i threw a flashbang and it blinded me 😭

next time im using the ram

[static elm]

Happens

I normally almost never kick doors and run a breaching shotgun in each squad

My loadouts are normally 2 breaching shotguns, 2 shields, 2 ARs, one SMG, and one shotgun, with a FUCK TON of wedges

I think I bring 14 to each mission

[opal viper]

????

[static elm]

Ideal? No

[static elm]

What’s confusing you

[opal viper]

no how the fuck are you carrying "2 breaching shotguns, 2 shields, 2 ARs, one SMG, and one shotgun"

[crisp berry]

thats his whole teams loadout

[opal viper]

oh

[static elm]

Yeah that

[crisp berry]

💀

[opal viper]

bro imagine being so bad u need the AI

[static elm]

I lost 75% of the nerves in my hands in a car accident bro

[crisp berry]

yeah ill take on port hokan by myself sure

[static elm]

I can’t aim for SHIT

[crisp berry]

anyway im doing twisted nerves and this bitch punched me so i shot her dead

[opal viper]

not the new one i agree

old one tho was my fav map to solo

[opal viper]

its doable its just annoying

[frosty token]

u done ironman mode with no officers lost with no ai help? bs

[opal viper]

lemme find and compress 1 video

actually you know wut lemme boot up the game rn and record it so u dont bitch about it later being "fake"

[ivory python]

the main thing I use the AI for while doing ironman mode S ranks is use their shields for back cover, and clear the map so i dont have to walk all over for 20+ minutes if the command works

[frosty token]

i use the AI to stack and breach and section off and close in on parts of the map, basically one team will stack and the other breaches, fuck running ironman solo just to be blindsided when the AI could be stacked on a door

[opal viper]

boot up friends only lobby so u get no AI

@frosty token pick a map nothing too big

[frosty token]

huh? im talking about ironman mode with no officers dying? anybody can cheese a single map

like completeing the entire catalogue of missions without dying or having an officer quit

[opal viper]

oh hell nah

[opal viper]

"anybody can cheese a single map" pff do it

[frosty token]

ive completed every map on S in single player

[static elm]

I do that with my beat cop loadout. It’s just an officer with 7 pistol mags for his Glock, a breaching shotgun, 2 stingers, and nothing else.

[frosty token]

i wish they had a 44 magnum, i wanna dirty harry some methheads

[static elm]

I can’t do like Hokan or Greased palms, but I’ve done just about every other map

[static elm]

Right there’s only a .357

[opal viper]

new port hokan is fucked

[static elm]

True

[frosty token]

357 is not enough, i need more calibre!

port aint that hard, just gotta secure it in sections

[static elm]

I want a sniper rifle and vantage points I can use to provide support and command my team from with overwatch

[frosty token]

i only did it 2 days ago on S

[static elm]

Hard part is making sure nobody can get around and flank you

[opal viper]

old port was amazing solo

[static elm]

Old port was definitely more fun to play

[opal viper]

lies

[frosty token]

i did like all the missions on S from valley of the dolls to port the other, day, ive unlocked all the tattoos just need that pesky gold watch

[opal viper]

listen listen

[frosty token]

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199612619166/ you can see my steam achievments

[opal viper]

ur telling me you S ranked all the maps within 2 days of 1.0 being out .
that means one of 2 things:
1- you dont shower regularly
2-ur lying

nah bro

[static elm]

2 days? Didn’t 1.0 launch months ago?

[regal grotto]

1.0 launched in december

[opal viper]

ye he was capping

[static elm]

He said he did it 2 days ago

[opal viper]

oh nah nvm i didnt read that right

[static elm]

Not 2 days after it came out. Lol

[opal viper]

im braid dead

[regal grotto]

Latest version of the game came at the end of february

[static elm]

Also my Ironman run only took 6 hours so it would be feasible if they’ve been playing since beta

[opal viper]

never tried it

[frosty token]

ironman mode is a feat of patience and self discipline to not rush in, thats the only difficulty, yourself, and poor AI at times

[opal viper]

i think i played thru all the mission again when 1.0 released then stopped till it got somewhat fixed with 1.2

[static elm]

Ironman just requires you to think tbh

[opal viper]

im still mad about mods turning off achievements

[crisp berry]

mods dont disable achievements, no?

[static elm]

And not die to BS. Technically I lost my Ironman run even though I completed it, because my one death was to a guy phasing through a jammed door and one tapping me to the head while I was defusing a bomb. Since it was obviously BS I alt+f4ed and restarted the map

[frosty token]

yeah but you gotta remember the layout of the map and treat an area with 7 entries differently to a room with a single entry and exit if you rush into the former treating it like the latter u gonna get fucked up, so patience and thinking

[opal viper]

i have 0 achievements

[shadow shard]

They don't.

[opal viper]

https://steamcommunity.com/id/lewdtrash/stats/1144200/achievements/ they do

[frosty token]

im new to pc gaming i dont really have the zeal for modding that everybody else has so i dont have any mods

[static elm]

They don’t? I didn’t get my achievement for Ironman

[opal viper]

u can exactly when mods were downloaded

[crisp berry]

i play with mods and they dont stop me from getting achievements

[opal viper]

they do for me

[shadow shard]

I had no issues getting several achivements with mods enabled.

[crisp berry]

it might just be a problem for you

[frosty token]

so u could use a god mode mod to get the gold watch?

[shadow shard]

Yes. There's even a mod for unlocking all assets and probably one for all achievements.

[crisp berry]

yeah prob

[opal viper]

the fact you thought of that

[frosty token]

thats just lame, takes the fun out of unlocking it, not that its easy mind u

[rare imp]

There are some sites that let you unlock achievements but I think it’s against steam tos

And also like

Why

[opal viper]

BRO YOU THOUGHT OF IT 😂

[pliant briar]

sites?

[rare imp]

Idk I’m not familiar with them

I saw it brought up once or twice a long time ago

[frosty token]

ive thought of doing bad things to you, doesnt mean ive done them

[opal viper]

are you telling me your thinking about men?

[shadow shard]

"Oh no, this person doesn't want to do what I consider fun. I should humiliate them."

[frosty token]

i thought you were female, you come across feminine

[opal viper]

so you try to convert people into femboys in ur thought?

kinda wierd bro

[frosty token]

something like that

[pliant briar]

logically a website has no way of unlocking achievements for you. it's sandboxed. but if i'm wrong, that's interesting, because it would mean steam lets you unlock achievements using their public apis

[frosty token]

im not doing it for the "achievement", its just an enjoyable challenge to do ironman mode

idc about the watch either, the g shock is the best wrist accesory imo

[opal viper]

the casio really is the best wrist accessory

[pliant briar]

at the end of the day it doesn't really matter (unless they're playing it like cod, that's unforgivable). whatever you cheat in, it doesn't affect others

[frosty token]

ready or not is like a dark souls equivalent of a shooter thats why ironman mode needs to be done

[opal viper]

why not just play dark souls in first person

[winter verge]

can we get discount please

[pliant briar]

[frosty token]

then i cant shoot people in the nuts with beanbags

[frosty token]

im cheesing it, im running thank u come again over an over until i unlock my officer traits lol

[static elm]

I don’t think they’re that important lolol

I could just as easily run the first few without them. Though the condo gives me trouble

[frosty token]

which one is the condo

? the one with weapon manufacturing?

[static elm]

The second mission with the guy who gets swatted

Live on twitch

[frosty token]

we must have different playstyles because i find that one easy.... greased palms is where i really struggle, but i think im getting careless now because ive failed a few times lol

[static elm]

Before the AI update it was hell on earth sometimes with people shooting you from the balconies below you

[frosty token]

i think if you command your officers at literally every entry point i think it would be a lot easier but im speedrunning it at this point lol

[static elm]

My strategy was to go up the stairs to the right, and clear from there. Take the second floor room, wedge the door leading to the balconies, then move to the third floor and clear top down.

[frosty token]

my exact same one, seems only logical once you figure out the mechanics of the game, still cop a few bullets on the top floor from that next floor down tho lol, only ever died once doing it but

[static elm]

Before the AI package update it was significantly harder to pass by the ones on the second floor without dying to people you couldn’t see

[frosty token]

i use free lean a lot when i get shot at so i try to position my plates to take all the bullets or duck down, i still get shot to shit even after the update

[static elm]

After the update I’ve played probably 40 rounds and only died like 4 times. It’s definitely way easier than it was

[frosty token]

i remember when i first ever played that mission i walked in the front at the bottom and my team all died and i have never once gone that way again, those balconies were scary as fuck

[viscid roost]

May the 4th

[frosty token]

4th of May

[north finch]

yo

where can i buy the game for the cheapest price?

[frosty token]

lmao jks

[north finch]

lol

the best price that i've found is G2A (15.22 USD for steam account that includes ready or not)

[north finch]

could anyone tell me cheaper? i just wanna buy the cheaper one yk

[shadow shard]

Don't discuss third-party sellers here.

[tidal nymph]

hi bro

[river oar]

you noob bro

[tidal nymph]

freak you stupid idiot

[river oar]

noob

[tidal nymph]

noob

lolllll lollll

[river oar]

you noob lolllololololol

[north finch]

oh

[mint heath]

I have a question about loadouts having just started the game

is it feasible to go for a loadout of all flashblangs and an smg

[regal grotto]

Yes

[mint heath]

how do i get the maximum number of flashbangs

which armor?

[tight breach]

Stabproof vest has the most slots (15)

[mint heath]

alright thank you

[rugged bear]

I JUST BOUGHT RON

any tips to get started?

[regal grotto]

Shoot fast knucklehead

[runic aspen]

kill people

[rugged bear]

what a helpful community

[runic aspen]

dont die

[alpine totem]

walk

[rugged bear]

guys

[regal grotto]

I am honest, enemy AI can kill you fast if you arent on top of your game

[rugged bear]

i get it ok but like tips that you guys didnt know when u started

[regal grotto]

Hmm, pepper spray surrendered suspects so they dont get up

[runic aspen]

dont die and do your job

[hollow mica]

Play around cover. It sounds extremely obvious, but you'd be surprised how easy it is for people to play this game like it's CoD

[rugged bear]

i used to play TAVR

[rugged bear]

yeah i get u tho

[forest prism]

Best weapon loadout?

[runic totem]

tip 1: refund and delete

[rugged bear]

why

[rugged bear]

lifecard 22.

[runic totem]

im just joking lol

there are actual valid reasons to refund
but if u can run it without issues and are having fun then keep playing :)

[fair elk]

there's no real best weapon, it's all about the user use whatever you find most enjoyable

[rugged bear]

no the lifecard 22

[forest prism]

My fists

[rugged bear]

no lifecard 22

[vale shell]

the smoke grenade launcher is peak fun

wait what the ai smoke launcher only last for 1 single use ?

[paper ridge]

cheryessa farm is possibly the worst map ever

[regal grotto]

I want to play helldivers 2 but the PSN fuck fest is too much

I blew 60 euros on that game

[rugged bear]

i have helldivers

[regal grotto]

I have it too

But Playstation's security is a cheetos holding a door closed

[rugged bear]

yeah but i bet u arent as good as spreading liberty eerywhere as me

[runic totem]

and crappily optimized

[paper ridge]

^

went from playing ultra to medium and still at some parts fall to 20 fps

[crisp berry]

DUDE when im outside everything just starts lagging istg

[paper ridge]

near the entrance is the worst

[nocturne sky]

Ends Of The Earth Is Perhaps One of the only Maps where I Felt Sorrow For The Guys We had warrants On, And I, after I finished practicing the mission I made sure not to bring anything lethal. Anyone Else do something Similar?

[spring ginkgo]

Yh I always use VKS or the beanbag, felt bad the first time for destroying an already broken family

[nocturne sky]

Yeah, everyone once and awhile on certain maps I quit and bring back a loadout that will put my conscience at ease, like on 213 Park Homes, When I Say the uh Protection next to the overdosing Child. We all quit and brought back Shotguns.

RoN is so far the only game where I have actually did something differently so that I don’t regret my decision Heavily Later

[spring ginkgo]

I only use VSK for that S tier, but if I mostly use the LVAR, then as a challenge use lethal weapons on maps like ends of the earth but still get S tier

[spring ginkgo]

The kid will be fine, he is high he wont remember a thing

[nocturne sky]

meh me and the boys still basically murdered everyone inside (We got a C)

[spring ginkgo]

(All crew member in therapy)

[nocturne sky]

(Yes…)

[spring ginkgo]

(Next mission all died)

[nocturne sky]

(Surprisingly no…)

[visual smelt]

Does anyone know if there will be a discount on the game during the summer sale?

[runic totem]

there will

[visual smelt]

At the beginning of the sale, right?

[runic totem]

yea

[rose yacht]

is there a price and/or a release date for the dlc

[shadow shard]

No.

[zenith sonnet]

We only know the time period, which is from now to June 20th

[runic totem]

i hope it doesnt disappoint, but then again im also expecting it to disappoint in someway

[rose yacht]

aight thx

[regal grotto]

I am boycotting the dlc

[runic totem]

if only half the community would follow through lol

[regal grotto]

Fix the god damn game before putting dlc's on a 50 euro game

[runic totem]

i know a fill in PR Person is gonna chat and say "bu-butt patches will release alongside D-D-D--DLC"

VOID are comfortable with lying and not putting full effort in "patches"

[regal grotto]

How about we get proper updates then?

[shadow shard]

inb4 50 USD for 2 maps

[runic aspen]

Theyre just itching to make it cost more than the base game 😭

whats yalls take on the helldivers situation w/ sony

[runic aspen]

its 3 maps 😭

divide price of game by number of maps
Multiply that by 3
Rough dlc price

[runic aspen]

honestly unless 1.1 comes both before dlc and completely fixes the game, which im assuming neither will happen, the dlc will be the last nail in voids coffin

Made one popular game and dipped 😭
This couldve been the start of a game studio legacy

hate to see years of work go down the drain but this is what happens when you release the game in a miserable state and then announce a DLC is coming first and foremost in your roadmap

[blazing pulsar]

Void is gonna die fr fr

[runic aspen]

void already is dead 😂 it took like a day after release for people to see past the flashy sound effects and graphics

void couldve become something great but they ghost after releasing their game

[runic aspen]

exactly

[blazing pulsar]

It's been like that the whole development

[runic aspen]

ron was shaping up to be an amazing game but their early release causes it to be like a 4/10 assuming your pc specs dont make it crash

[runic aspen]

mfs couldve made a whole franchise which wouldve made them so much more money 😭
This the result of short sighted greed
Real game devs would see that theres much more money to be made in the long run by being consistent

Dont just drop one game and runoff with the money leaving it to die

🤷 seems to be a pretty common thing with all these recently released games

[runic aspen]

hence gaming is dead

corporate greed kicks them in the teeth

[nocturne sky]

What We talking bout?

[runic totem]

VOID being L devs

[blazing pulsar]

Standard void bad

[runic totem]

the fact they have a small minority of people defending their actions in their steam posts is absurd

[nocturne sky]

yeah

[runic aspen]

look at helldivers for example, they were 100% on the path to changing the gaming industry forever and then this sony shit happens and they seemingly just let it happen

[runic aspen]

its pretty interesting how they took the laziest option but there was still so much more potential [=money] left

[blazing pulsar]

They are still gonna update the game tho

[runic aspen]

what really pisses me off is that this is solely voids fault since they willingly dropped their publisher

its not like the publisher gave them a deadline or anything, they did this all of their own free will

[nocturne sky]

pain.

[runic totem]

but by the time they do the game is dead as shit, theres no point

[runic aspen]

yea right
if they were serious they wouldve dropped an update ages ago
I implore u to check the announcements channel and see what frequency game updates are

[nocturne sky]

I’m assuming a small community will hopefully stay around, keeping it somewhat active

[runic aspen]

if you update the game infrequently, they can be big patches, if theyre frequent they can be small changes

gaming has been totally ruined by corporations/greed

[blazing pulsar]

I know damn well the speed of the updates

[runic aspen]

ghost town

[nocturne sky]

60 Years And Still Waiting

[mortal trench]

solstice town

[runic aspen]

there is no game out there right now thats working off of anything other than money

[runic aspen]

I run this shit

[mortal trench]

real

[runic aspen]

maybe the finals

[nocturne sky]

unless 1.1 and onward Is like perfect

[runic totem]

exactly, and im tired of these lazy asshole game devs putting their game in early access
just finish the game or dont release it

[round valley]

How do i change difficulty?

[runic aspen]

devs have shown strong commitment and passion for it

[nocturne sky]

impossible.

[round valley]

I just bought ron how do i change difficulty with my friend/

[formal raft]

mods

[round valley]

oh, every map has own difficult?

[runic aspen]

well, EA is somewhat justifiable for smaller companies as they need a source of income throughout their years of development

[runic totem]

refund RoN, but you cant change difficulty

[runic aspen]

refund it until they fix it

[round valley]

why refund

[runic totem]

bad AI, slow updates, mediocre optimization, and bugs (but apparantly some ppl cant see that)

[runic aspen]

slow updates isnt even an issue but the complete lack of communication is

[nocturne sky]

we are just people that bought it when it was Actually a decent game and

[runic aspen]

they drop a roadmap and then say nothing when its almost summer

[nocturne sky]

Now voids Killed it

[nocturne sky]

radio silence, but I have seen Their YouTube Channel Commenting on RoN vehicles recently

Nothing about development

[runic aspen]

🤷 my only hope was arrowhead and they just got curbstomped by sony so

[runic totem]

slow updates can be considered an issue, they are taking so long on updates that its too late for anything
a update bi-weekly would be nice

[runic aspen]

bi weekly is a bit much for a game like this, but even monthly/bi monthly would be far better than this

[nocturne sky]

Bi-weekly is a bit much

[runic aspen]

bi weekly fits more for games that are making small, rapid changes\

[nocturne sky]

Monthly would be better

[runic aspen]

the way i see it, ron development speed moves at about the pace of my fps on settings higher than medium

[runic totem]

RoN can benefit from frequent hotfixes

[runic aspen]

hotfixes are diff than updates

[runic totem]

monthly is possible, but they tried monthly and the patches still fuckin sucked

[nocturne sky]

Unfortunately….

[runic aspen]

fix some of the major issues affecting the game ❌
miniscule hotfixes that repair very specific issues that do not affect a majority of the pb ✅

[nocturne sky]

It seems that either void is making the best update possible or They all gave up… the ladder seems more possible

[runic aspen]

Basically void ghosted everybody

🤷 maybe one day we'll actually have a game studio that lets community enjoyment factor into their development alongside making money

[runic aspen]

the finals is doing that

[nocturne sky]

that died like. 5 years ago

[runic aspen]

the $30 skin pack throws me off

[runic aspen]

true honestly
devs doing good work though

[runic totem]

Ready or not being glorified on youtube and shit aint helping this situation either
like tf how they so oblivious to the issues in this game

[runic aspen]

Easy answer shills

[runic totem]

and the steam reviews, wont get into it but self explanatory

[runic aspen]

because youtubers want to put out a quick video and make money off of it

Bootlickers

whats even worse is game journalists

[nocturne sky]

oh the pain

[runic aspen]

the existance of game journalists pisses me off to no end

[runic totem]

the steam reviews be like
"yeah this game stutters, runs bad, has shitty ai and bugs, BUTTT.... ITS A GOOD TATICOOL SHOOTER REALISTIC SWAT GAME
10/10 5 star positive review"

[runic aspen]

its not even realistic

[nocturne sky]

I hate when A suspect magically has 7 Pistols and 4 Knives

[runic aspen]

john wick tweakers are still in the game

[runic aspen]

exactly how does every crackhead have an assault rifle, a pistol, and a knife

[nocturne sky]

All in their back pocket

[runic aspen]

the only thing RoN does right is the storytelling

[runic aspen]

rpg ahh inventory

[nocturne sky]

Void Added CP to everything

[runic aspen]

🤷 not any different than in the real world

[runic totem]

they told us a story in the game and outside the game with their crappy development

[nocturne sky]

Good point….

[runic aspen]

the game tells us an interesting story, void tells us a story about greed

[runic totem]

XD

[nocturne sky]

does anyone think another Studio will take up

[runic totem]

they need to add a mission where theres a hostage situation at some greedy corporate building

[runic aspen]

basically it seems the general consensus is that ready or not couldve been something great, but like all other one hit wonder games, corporate greed takes over and ruins everything

[runic aspen]

sony human resources taking pilestedt hostage

[blazing pulsar]

Datacenter lol

[runic aspen]

Its so hard to understsnd cause u can literally make MORE money with a long term mindset

[nocturne sky]

at this point idek why I even play RoN

[runic aspen]

exactly 😭

[glossy roost]

you guys ever have an issue where people walk slow? some joining my server get stuck at like a 1/2 walking speed

[runic aspen]

finished the content and never touched it again

"finished"

[runic aspen]

Most basic rule of finance 😭

[runic totem]

lol i deleted it and im just boycotting this shi game till VOID gets their act together

[runic aspen]

there are fucking roblox games with a better mindset than the current gaming industry and its honestly hilarious to me

[nocturne sky]

I just play mindlessly…infinitely with a tone of friends

[runic totem]

they need to make ready or not in roblox but actually finish it

[nocturne sky]

Bloxy Or Not Is kinda that

It’s just ass

[blazing pulsar]

It's cool to shoot somewhat decent enemies with friends I guess

[runic aspen]

Man reminds me of frontlines on roblox
Shit was going so well then some drama happened
Swift death

hellmet goes kinda hard

feels like an ron in roblox to me

[nocturne sky]

Played hellmet to much

And with the new open Sessions

It sucks because you have toddlers a lot now

[runic aspen]

corporate greed has even affected roblox tho too which is crazy
games having to use fictional vehicles out of fear of being sued/copyrighted
notoriety and that one pokemon game years ago being wiped off the platform

[nocturne sky]

Nintendo just hates everyone

[runic aspen]

it is what it is though 🤷 hopefully arrowhead drops sony or finds a solution to the current situation and continues to put out some good shit

[runic totem]

notoriety was crazy, i forgot about that game ngl

[nocturne sky]

Hopefully is the keyword

[runic aspen]

hoping for anything in gaming is risky but i believe arrowhead will find a resolution that doesnt force people to sell all of their data to sony

personally i dont really care i just made a ghost account to link to but at the same time its 100% understandable why people are up in arms

[nocturne sky]

Anyone see that discord removed our ability to sue them?

[runic aspen]

especially when they lied about what was in their EULA

[nocturne sky]

And that they now with hold the right to sell our DMs

[runic aspen]

i wouldnt be surprised if sony got sued honestly, pretty sure changing a EULA and trying to enforce it on people who havent signed the new one isnt legal

[nocturne sky]

it is legal

[runic aspen]

not in europe apparently

some dude claiming to be a DPO just stated every law they've broken

idk if any of its true but europe is pretty hard on data protection

[nocturne sky]

They are just gonna do a Roblox and change their shit over their and leave us in the middle of hell

With no way to sue here

[runic aspen]

shrug, time will tell, i have some hope left

[mortal trench]

EULA changes and ToS changes happen so frequently

it's legal and they are required to inform the user of these changes, most of the time this happens via an email or new popup

[runic aspen]

the difference is these EULA changes require players to give up personal data

[mortal trench]

kinda makes sense that the psn service eula says they need your psn account info

[runic aspen]

no like

[round valley]

every map has own difficulty?

[runic aspen]

ok so the way it works is that players originally had the option to link their steam accounts to a PSN account

[round valley]

or game is actually easy?

[runic aspen]

you didnt have to before, but now they're saying that if you dont link your steam account to a PSN account then they'll revoke your access to helldivers

players didnt agree to the PSN EULA either, they agreed to the steam & helldivers EULA which didnt say anything about forced linkage

not to my knowledge anyways

[mortal trench]

that was mandatory from the very beginning, they couldn't make it work so they added a grace period where people could simply skip it, the steam page even had that notice before the game was released

[runic aspen]

no it wasnt

PSN linkage was not mandatory originally

regardless of what the steam description says, the EULA for helldivers never said it

[mortal trench]

I mean even the devs say they knew this day would come, why would they lie?

[runic aspen]

🤷 take one look at the current helldivers reviews and you'd see why they might've not been super open about it

[mortal trench]

like there was a literal hint on the steam page that it requires a third party account

[runic aspen]

apparently the entire dev team thinks pretty negatively of the forced linkage anyways and they're talking about a resolution so

[mortal trench]

I don't see how that would have changed reviews

[runic aspen]

blurb in the steam description is far different than forcing players to link or ban them

[mortal trench]

anyways sony either backs down or keeps enforcing it like there is nothing anyone can do

people should actually start to look at what they are buying and demand change in laws

I mean just look at ghost of tsushima or other xbox titles, they all have the same third party account requirement info

[runic aspen]

people didnt really expect a steam description to be legally binding (it isnt)

[gaunt wraith]

Why? What happened?

[runic aspen]

basically helldivers is forcing all steam players to link their accounts to PSN or lose access

[mortal trench]

I mean they had a notice on the steam page and huge ass popup ingame and according to laws this seems to be enough idk

[gaunt wraith]

Wtf why?

[runic aspen]

sony wants their information

[gaunt wraith]

Helldiver was like on the way to be game of the year and they just throw it away like that?

[runic aspen]

they claim its for safety but helldivers literally has a kernel level anticheat already

[runic aspen]

not their fault, sony forced it on them, but they claim to be working on a resolution

[gaunt wraith]

Oh

[runic aspen]

i dont see any resolution unless they roll it back though

[mortal trench]

it's odd, but a kernel level anti cheat doesn't cover everything regarding user behavior

[runic aspen]

take a look at the reviews

[gaunt wraith]

Gotta be illegal at some level

[runic aspen]

as if there arent other ways to enforce user safety than forcing people to link their steam accounts to a notoriously insecure platform

[mortal trench]

I wouldn't look just at the reviews, look at the whole topic

otherwise you'll just eat bias of angry consumers

[runic aspen]

the fact of the matter is that regardless of what the steam description says, or what popups are ingame, the EULA didnt say anything about account linking to PSN

[mortal trench]

there def are

[runic aspen]

and neither a popup nor the steam description are legally binding like a EULA is

so regardless of if we could see it coming or not, this is still on sony/arrowhead, mostly sony

[mortal trench]

it's solely sony trying to enforce this

[runic aspen]

🤷 like you said, the devs said they knew this day would come and did nothing to stop it

[mortal trench]

I don't think the legalities around this are that simple

[runic aspen]

there are no legal documents that players agreed to when buying the game on PC that stated they'd be forced to link their steam account to a third party to play

[mortal trench]

how are they supposed to stop their contracted publisher?

[waxen latch]

The way to handle it would have been enforcing it since day one, but technical issues was used as an excuse

[runic aspen]

fair enough

[waxen latch]

Ghost of tsushima legends will require PSN on release

Which is fair

[runic aspen]

exactly, if they had been transparent and simply said that the game will require PSN then this wouldnt be happening

[waxen latch]

The community manager dissing players for complaining was funny

[runic aspen]

i think spitz backtracked on that

some shit about how he "didnt realize" how many regions were blocked from PSN

[waxen latch]

Thousands of dollars gone with a single message

[runic aspen]

helldivers community team/moderation is notoriously bad for using their heads

[mortal trench]

and btw an eula is solely a legally binding contract btw, it's solely to protect the asset and service, I think people confuse this with being mandatory and no one will stop you to make a class action

[runic aspen]

one of them pbanned me and called me a bigot in dms because i made a furry joke

[mortal trench]

was it a derogatory one?

[runic aspen]

no

[gaunt wraith]

🤯

[waxen latch]

Sometimes the void approach of not opening your mouth during scandals might be the best idea

Who would have known

[runic aspen]

lmaoo

[mortal trench]

it's a loose loose it doesn't matter, just like ron development

[runic aspen]

they need to hire people who actually know how to talk to the community

it just absolutely pains me to see games like helldivers and ron go completely down the toilet because of greed

[waxen latch]

I dont think thats an issue, its just, even if you are not responsible or wrong about an issue directly, its a business. You dont want to lose money

Putting someone volatile on the forefront

Yeah not good

[runic aspen]

yea that seems to be the entire arrowhead community team

theyre very hostile which is not good

[waxen latch]

Also the steam post was signed by sony

So people overlooked that

[mortal trench]

could you send me the history?

[runic aspen]

no, it was on another account

[mortal trench]

ahhhh

[runic aspen]

yea almost all of this is sonys fault

but, it is what it is, time will tell how both arrowhead and sony plays this out

[mortal trench]

knowing sony they'll keep going with it

[waxen latch]

Lesson learned hopefully, no matter the technical issues, dont launch if you cannot commit to the psn requirement

[runic aspen]

wish arrowhead could just drop sony like void did to their publisher

[mortal trench]

they'd have to come to a mutual agreement and I don't think it's in their interest

bounded by contracts

[gaunt wraith]

And look what happened to RoN

[mortal trench]

LMAO

[waxen latch]

Sony is not letting go

Not in a thousand years

[mortal trench]

obviously, all the juicy cash

[waxen latch]

The first massive live service hit

[mortal trench]

"rather make smth than nothing"

[waxen latch]

For them

They aint letting it go

[regal grotto]

Its a legal fuck fest

Cant just make people buy a game and then be unable to play or get their account compromised

[waxen latch]

Gonna be watching the lawyer tubers this week

[regal grotto]

Playstation gets hacked so often official cybersecurity classes showcases that

[mortal trench]

I think that argument is silly

[regal grotto]

So even if PSN is available, playstation can be hacked tomorrow and your steam account gets also hacked

[mortal trench]

I don't think you can log into steam with your playstation account

[regal grotto]

Can be linked

[mortal trench]

also suddenly everyone is a lawyer, like wait it out until a class action exists or smth

[regal grotto]

I dont think a month is fast enough

[mortal trench]

all they get from the linkage is your steam user id which is public anyways

[runic aspen]

OBJECTION

i sentence lina to 15 years without parole

[mortal trench]

yippie!!!! ^-^

[runic aspen]

😮 u wanna be in prison?

[silk briar]

cant wait to get my $0.03 payout from this class action suit

[mortal trench]

aren't you one of the guards?

[runic aspen]

uh
I can be!

[regal grotto]

What about the people who cant make a PSN account? Its a 40-60 euro paper weight

[runic aspen]

they claim theyre going to make it optional for people in regions that dont have psn support

[mortal trench]

sad that people only look at the resulting compensation and then say .3

I mean if every online lawyer here right is being right then everyone should get refunded

[silk briar]

class actions aren’t about compensation anywho

[runic aspen]

refunding would be a steam issue

wouldnt it

[regal grotto]

Publishers trying not to fuck over the consumers: Impossible

[runic aspen]

since the games refund policy for PC players is dictated by steam

[mortal trench]

a class action lawsuit is nothing else than a law firm representing a group of people

it has nothing to do with the result

[regal grotto]

Wait. Doesnt Sony have cracked lawyers?

[mortal trench]

yeah any big ass corpo has the lawyer elite

[nocturne sky]

The fuck I miss this time

[regal grotto]

So any chance we dont lose 2 thirds of the playerbase?

[mortal trench]

people keep saying it's a breach of contract, now it's not anymore?

steam would have to abide in this case, they just handle the marketplace or not? it's all on sony the publisher in this case

[regal grotto]

Did the update Helldivers 2 EULA?

[runic aspen]

dont think so

i havent received any emails nor have i seen anything new to sign in the game

[regal grotto]

This is a Sony moment, Helldivers 1 didnt need this

[runic aspen]

thats cuz helldivers 1 wasnt a massive earner

sonys cashing in

[regal grotto]

Proceeded to make the game tank in reviews on steam

[runic aspen]

🤷

it isss what it isss

only thing we can do is sit and wait to see what their solution is

[nocturne sky]

probably sit and do jack shit

[runic aspen]

arrowhead claims theyre trying to find a solution

[regal grotto]

Arrowhead should fire the community managers

[nocturne sky]

yes

[regal grotto]

They only put gas on the fire

Their only job is to make announcements and not look like a weirdo, failing at both

[runic aspen]

yea

arrowheads community team and moderation team are too concerned with politics and fueling the fire

[nocturne sky]

that’s an understatement it’s them dumping actual oil onto a burning building

[runic aspen]

one of them literally said that if you disagree with someone trying to push pride flags into the game then they'll ban you for homophobia

[nocturne sky]

"Instructions Unclear"

[runic aspen]

its absolutely fucking insane to me how AH hired these people

some shill corporate PR rep would do a better job rn lmao

[regal grotto]

Hey. I am pro lgbt content but I know when I am told no

[runic aspen]

exactly

[regal grotto]

Still hoping for something in june but with this wildfire, no shot

[runic aspen]

personally i disagree with adding pride content to helldivers

idc if its intended to be political or not, it is political in our society

[nocturne sky]

If we are going off lore, I agree

[runic aspen]

i stand with the argument that if they represent one group then they'll end up being forced to represent them all

[regal grotto]

puts on thin foil I found best helldivers 2 conspiracy

[runic aspen]

i.e. they cant add a pride cape or they'll need to add 60 other capes for all the delusional shit out there

[nocturne sky]

can we not

[regal grotto]

Super Earth is in fact a mega corp in the coat of a world government

[nocturne sky]

… yes…

[runic aspen]

think that was pretty obvious

[nocturne sky]

That’s…always,…been super earth…

[regal grotto]

It was?

[runic aspen]

yea

the oil is their source of money, the automatons are their source of free labour

[nocturne sky]

It’s literally the always has been meme

[runic aspen]

politics r stupid communism or socialism would be pretty lit if ppl werent greedy

[regal grotto]

Which disqualifies them

[runic aspen]

yea

[regal grotto]

Capitalism is where its at but have some laws in place

[runic aspen]

communism or socialism or any branch of them will never be feasible since human greed will always take over

[runic aspen]

is it though