👮ron-discussion

[tacit gull]

there isn't a % chance, you likely just didnt do the right one

[upbeat shard]

to elaboreat, the matchmaking online will it actually doable or u must make a fixed group?

[quasi coral]

Honestly, after replaying Ready or Not to regain all I've lost

It's actually still the solid game I played, in-fact, even better despite all the bugs

[tacit gull]

You're gonna be unable to play and get booted out of your own lobby regardless if you're playing in a group or public matchmaking

[quasi coral]

I'm having so much fun, I don't know why even though I literally gotta grind everything back

[burnt gazelle]

I guess it’s a bug then because I always checked all the PCs

[tacit gull]

the vault is always accessible regardless of the seed, the pc just changes

[upbeat shard]

im a noob, so they wont bother to include me in coop? understandable

[frank cairn]

No game which creates an elitist behaviour is appealing for coop with strangers.
I have now 140 hours in RoN, I only miss "Programmed Psychosis" achievement, but only play with friends in Coop.
I have no time for some toxic mfs

But I guess if you search for noob friendly players here you will find good people

[bold sky]

its really not that serious of a game im ngl

the toxic people are actually the casual roleplayers, no one sweats in this game if they have actual aim bc its a pve game, so you can just be chill and enjoy public lobbies, they arent gonna be perfect so dont go in there with the mindset you have to follow the game arbitrary scoring rule in there

else its a wonderful game to just shoot guns bc the gunplay in this game is its best part

[upbeat shard]

thanks for the feedback, its acutally a good and valid point

[narrow geode]

@jolly verge
Mr Aspid
For "The Heat is On"
Can swat AI equip whatever?
Can I send them to finish the level like in Way Out West?

[frank cairn]

Can someone explain enemy AI on Hard?

I had it now in 2 games where I found a suspect in 1 room, he left the rooms often, but I could track em mostly, but always knew roughly where they were, but they didnt know where I was.
I was slow walking, no quick door opening and the moment I came a bit closer, no visual sight, etc. they came straight to the door and shot me in the face.
Super vision, super hearin, super speed.

If its skill issue, ok. I am willing to learn, but I dont learn from any of that stuff.
So, what am I missing? For real. Is it just badly written, or do I miss something?

[narrow geode]

#💬general-discussion message

[frank cairn]

That doesnt really answer my question

[sleek rune]

Maybe you were using the flashlight, shouting for compliance etc, thats why he knew your general location

[frank cairn]

No
I didnt.
As said, quiet and stealthy

I know all these mechanics, otherwise I wouldnt asking

[sleek rune]

Its gotta be something else that you did then

If you recorded your gameplay you can check that

[frank cairn]

Again:
I was slow walking, silently open doors, pushing them slowly open by walking against them and out of a sudden he came over from 2 rooms, straight to me and dead.
So what was wrong there?
No shouting, no lights, no mag check, nothing

And Thanks I didnt know that I can check my recordings 😄

[sleek rune]

Does anybody else genuinely think that the GA416 is the best lethal weapon in the game? It just handles so well both in short and mid range, and the damage is on point too

[tacit gull]

literally one of the worst weapons in the game

atleast not everyone can unanimously agree its dogshit unlike the trpl

[distant rose]

its not great performance wise but its cool so that gives it extra points to go to top 7 imo

remember, cool > performance

[tacit gull]

true the hk is very cag

[glass heart]

true but its indeniably very cool and cag

which is why i keep using it despite me knowing 300 blackout rifles are just better

arn-180>>>>> any 5.56 rifle in the game

[tacit gull]

i will not abide this g36(railed) diss

[glass heart]

i mean its the best 5.56 rifle and i also love it but its still 5.56

300 jhp penning l3a is too cag to ignore

idk how the fuck that works tho

300 blackout is slower and heavier than 5.56 irl, if anything it should be less penetrative

[frank cairn]

MCX is my favourite Gun so far, but I believe there are a couple of S Tier guns in the game and its just down to preference.
I enjoy the 6.5, G3 and GA51, too.
LVAR is another one I like to come back, too

[bold sky]

the 6.5 sucks

its jhp limb modifier is broken, its visual recoil is cooked

maybe equipping bad guns is why you struggle w hard ai lol

best gun is arguably spc just bc you can blind spray for headshots in about any angle in this game w that thing

[frank cairn]

MCX is not bad.
I dont play the 6.5 on hard.
And here we are, so much for cool and not toxic community haha

[bold sky]

pointing out that claiming x gun is good bc you feel it instead of statistic is toxic?

i think misinformation is more toxic considering how someone is gonna go into a map w sub lv 4 armor w a 6.5 thinking jhp is gonna get proper limb modifier on them

[frank cairn]

No the snarky remark on my play was toxic, because unnecessary during talk about guns

And I am aware of the 6.5 issues. Thats why I only play it for fun

[bold sky]

hard bots get hyper awareness once they are stressed btw

your case is likely either the last bot just lurking to look for swat, or just a bot that you stressed out heavily

semi in this game is mostly good if you dont want to take constant gunfights and for roleplay purpose

helps w stress management; suppresssor halves the stress gain too

if you play semi its worth to sacrifice recoil from sfmb and go suppressor, integrated suppressor not included

dps wise technically arn 180 is nuts bc on any map where max armor is not an issue .300 jhp destroys the bots, even 1 chest + 1 limb is enough to kill them

once you get recoil down dm4 is insane bc it has higher fire rate and is shorter so easier to use in general

[frank cairn]

Hej thanks a lot for putting some thought in and try to help out.

I play single fire with Suppressor on MCX atm.
The last guy who made me mad was very stressed out. He ran away from a gun fight.
So he was aware.
Thats fair.
I just dont understand how his sonar caught me through 2 rooms away.
Thats my issue. I want to learn from mistakes, but I dont know what I could have done better there.

Its about "A New AMerica"
I only play that atm on hard

[bold sky]

ofc spc imo takes the actual spotlight once you really just sink ungodly amount of aim training into this game, bc headshots are 1 shot kill, and spc volume fire is broken, shotgun buck is ok for this purpose too but shotgun itself is too long

yeah just sink in like a few more attempts you'll be able to solo it on hard

the bots on that map are actually so easy to bait, you make a crap load of noise, step on their ir sensor, then fall back and bait them

[frank cairn]

I thought about ARn 180 JHP now, because you mention it, but most bots have armor there so I clinge to my Ap 😄

[bold sky]

yes dont don .300 jhp in that map

can actually use your 6.5 ap in that map if you want but recoil sucks

[frank cairn]

Yeah the MLO guys are a no brainer on the map.
I always die to the regular soldiers, who get emotional, shout angry, etc.
MLO guys have a very predictable pattern

[bold sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1488194117686268054/1508081804492406844/image.png?ex=6a143e20&is=6a12eca0&hm=08dfe081db67618eca286f149b9793ebe1d407d2cf1a040cfc5ecb1b76cafa97&
i did this w a dm4

[wind gyro]

jhp over ap all day

[bold sky]

o kekw that didnt go thru anw nvm

[frank cairn]

SWEET

[bold sky]

dm4 is really really broken in terms of dps against max armor bots

[frank cairn]

Guess I try some other guns 😄

Thanks for your time and your help

[bold sky]

youd think the fire rate doesnt make a diff, but if you manage to control it to always make sure the 2 shots connect you actually out trade them so they cant just bite your hp away

if you want to play uber chad you can go buckshot and go for heads only but i do think you need a lot of hours to learn that

at worst you can leg the ai if things go wrong

[frank cairn]

I tried Buckshot first for ANA but I didnt enjoy it much

[bold sky]

yeah after dark waters i swear something is just wrong w the buck now, people i knew since alpha told me its fine they can still head w it, but i literally can not headshot anything in hokan at range

before dark waters i definitely had a long period of just running buckshot and abusing it for headshots

maybe sth is up w canted sight idk, i only play this game in canted sight exclusively

oh yeah i forgot sth too but ummmm

[frank cairn]

I mean cool thing about buckshot is: You see a foot or a hand, hit it and enemy is gone

[bold sky]

some people have not very good pc, i think that holds them back a lot too btw, so if you are playing the game at 60 fps i wouldnt be surprised if you struggle

this game surprisingly if you go somewhere above 180 fps you actually have ultra instinct like the bots too

it sounds sad but this game has shorter ttk than even cs2, so the frame rate actually matters, if you ever feel like the bots strafe you or one shot you or just prefire you in general, you likely have too low frame rate if you are the host

i cap my fps to 120 and my shots are still fine for the most part but suspects that are already stressed and actively lurking will have shots fired at me before appearing on my screen, when i was at 240 fps if i was also moving i'll see their head too before theres gunshots

[frank cairn]

I quick checked, but i dont find options for setting FPS in game.
OBS says its 60
My PC should be able to do better 😄
Need to look into that

[bold sky]

Obs is a streaming app its capped at 60

[frank cairn]

And I just love Flash Bang Immunity haha
I really wonder what table in the room is cover for suspects sometimes

[frank cairn]

Nevermind me, on that departmemt I am a noob

[bold sky]

Just throw stinger, honestly most reliable nade after gas nerf

[frank cairn]

I heard 9 Bang good for rooms, flash good for bigger ones, but its so inconsistent for me, but thats subjective

[bold sky]

If you play sub 120 fps try to have adaptive sync on so you dont get screen tearing, tearing on top of hit effect sucks

I think 9 bang gets a lot of attention bc it looks flashy but id rather just take the 1 tick of flash over it

[frank cairn]

Thats on

[bold sky]

9 bang is strong if you do s rank no mod and you have to quickly make something give up while other can cover them, but flash launcher does it better

Solo new america i think stinger is more reliable

[frank cairn]

Ok I will give it a try

[sour osprey]

Question, are the mindjot workers like, ex militarym

?

[bold sky]

No they are just security

[sour osprey]

So they have spider senses then

[frank cairn]

I think these are guys where Non Lethal feels best, because they are really just doing their job, dont know any of the bad things, heard stuff of thugs acting as cops.
Not like Security in Valley of the Dolls, who deffo have dont know details, but know something is wrong, but take the money anyways.

[carmine kindle]

Heya idk if the mods or devs will see this but I have been begging for a photo mode for the console version because that would be a cool idea

[narrow geode]

#📩feedback-reports-channel

[frank cairn]

I really need to record it, to show it.
Happened again.
I watched a guard. Not alerted. He was slow walking "All clean here". He went to a room, dont came back. I slow walked. Started Free Leaning, all stealth, and suddenly I heard him in the next room fast walking and straight attacking me.
I dont understand it.

[carmine kindle]

Ty

[frank cairn]

Can they see Laser?

[narrow geode]

No
They can see the flashlight tho

[frank cairn]

Ok, only Laser was on

[bold sky]

Coulda been ir sensor

[frank cairn]

No, not in that room

[bold sky]

But honestly stealth is for roleplay in this game, gun skill actually matters so much in this game lol id say it matters even more than cs

[frank cairn]

Trust me I check on all these things and use it for my advantage

[bold sky]

Stealth has been janky as hell

[frank cairn]

Yeah thats true

[bold sky]

Not to mention suspects get stressed as you kill or fire shots anw

[jolly verge]

Yes

[narrow geode]

Well
Do I also need C grade?

[frank cairn]

Ok, apparently computer monitors block 300 Blackout
Good to know 😄

[jolly verge]

No idea, but I did not get it till all main objectives were completed, so I guess so

[narrow geode]

Hm
Thanks for explaining

My attempts have reached double digits thanks to my teammates dying all the time
It's hilarious how bad they are

[frank cairn]

On that map especially when you go up and send them there.
But when I got that achievement they were all alive.
But its luck

[narrow geode]

That one big open area is where they die the most
And I can't do much either since I die in a few shots
I have to stay back most of the time

[frank cairn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrIfOZTXYGI

This really helped me on understanding it

[red yarrow]

Whats the best battle rifle?

[narrow geode]

They're all good

[red yarrow]

m14 then lol

[frank cairn]

6.5 is bugged, as said earlier
Modifier on damage doesnt work correct

[narrow geode]

I finally got a run where none of them died
But it didn't count because I got an F
Too bad I'm way too stubborn to give up

[frank cairn]

What caused the F?
Dead civis?

[narrow geode]

Yeah
Well they barged open a door and I thought they were suspects

[frank cairn]

Haha I know that feel.
I freak out on that every time, too

[upper raft]

Is there a way to get suspects but mainly civs to get down quicker? I'm standing there for 20 seconds yelling. I do take shots near them but that doesn't seem to do much.

[frank cairn]

If you punch them they go down straight

And it avoids yelling aka enemies hear you

[wind gyro]

just walk up to them and bash

[red yarrow]

every battle rifles bullets just go through enemies without damaging them for me

[wind gyro]

interesting, please tell me more

[upper raft]

Ooh, anytime I get annoyed at a civ I start dumping pepper spray on them. Didn't know bashing brought them down.

[red yarrow]

i shot a man with 7.62 in the head and it phased through, hit a civvie through a wall tho

[wind gyro]

any evidence

since rons hitboxes dont suck

[red yarrow]

no, but being like this is weird

[wind gyro]

you can go into replay mode and see for yourself probably

[red yarrow]

no replay data

[wind gyro]

thats crazy

[red yarrow]

idk why you think its worth it for some random guy to lie about ready or not, but this did happen

[cinder elbow]

[wind gyro]

you mightve clearly missed, saw that like 2 times

[red yarrow]

the bullet clearly went into his ear, but ok

[wind gyro]

if you shot someone in the ear he wouldnt die

[civic birch]

Side of head

In one ear out the other.

[wind gyro]

that would make sense then

[red yarrow]

.300 blk seems to be more consistant

[wind gyro]

oh wait into the ear

[red yarrow]

and the serling ar18 style charging handle is good

[sour osprey]

When you finish RoN, ragebait TOC

[frank cairn]

This is the shit which really makes me mad. 2 clear hits and ZERO reaction to just being hit by 2two 300 Blackout rounds. Straight Superman there.
https://youtu.be/qLbkiOMn9vg

[narrow geode]

I got another one of these like two more times
But in those times
My teammates decided to take down like 4+ civilians
So I got an F again
Insane stuff

[frank cairn]

Thats ass

It just makes me so mad that the game is doing thing which feels straight unfair regarding achievements.
Like your bots kill Civs or like in my video when Hits dont count

[narrow geode]

Ugh
I got another civi down again

Sometimes the teammates don't listen to my commands too
I'm telling them to clear a room
But King over here is too busy cuffing a suspect across the map so we gotta wait for him to come back
You know this might be more difficult than programmed psychosis

[frank cairn]

I got Heat is on in 3 tries, Programmed Psychosis I am doing for 3 days now 😄

But yeah, AI not reacting to command or unable to flash rooms 100% is absolutely mad for a supposedly finished game.
This is Early Access stuff

[lost inlet]

G3 or GA51.

[lost inlet]

first hit landed, second hit goes over his shoulder and downed in the third hit.

it's DM4 after all, it has the muzzle kick of the 416 so it's easy to miss.

[frank cairn]

Looks still like a neck shot.
And still, after 1 hit just no reaction on that distance is wild.

[narrow geode]

Some of the achievements in this game is ridiculous anyways

Next DLC they're gonna add a map that has like 60 suspects armed with battle rifles, helmets, armor and grenades etc.
And there's gonna be an achievement that says something like:
"Complete the mission in under 3 minutes on hard mode without any teammates and without having armor or helmet and without using grenades or any weapons. Only bash is allowed and you must S rank it too."
And using things like multitool, gas mask etc. will make the run invalid (but they won't write that down in the achievement description)

[frank cairn]

Bullets fly past me and my vision blurs and hitting enemies doesnt do shit

[lost inlet]

you're more likely to stagger them if their body armor stopped the bullets instead but i'm assuming you're using AP .300blk which has like 20% staggering chance on flesh hit so they just tanked it.

[frank cairn]

Yeah, the hidden mechanics are still a thing.
More mad is that the devs dont care to just say what is needed.
You have 3-4 Reddit runs but nobody is fully aware, what is working and what not

[molten flame]

For Greased Palms, mostly due to the proximity to (presumably) LSX, I feel the following departments would be responding

• USPIS Postal Police Officers (Already on scene)
• USPIS Federal Agents & Tactical Team
• FISA HRT
• LSPD
• LSPD SWAT
• LSX Police
• Los Sueños City Fire Department (Both from nearby stations and Los Sueños International Airport)

Feel free to agree or disagree

[lost inlet]

pretty much, either you hit them or you miss, no suppressing or debuffing them in any way.

[frank cairn]

Yeah I want to see that in Real Life.
😄
Its a bs mechanic

[lost inlet]

so does the majority of mechanics in this game.

[frank cairn]

Point

[balmy patio]

i mean stuff like programmed psychosis is just meant for completionists since it doesnt even give you any cosmetic reward unlike the secret ending ones

i dont know if its the only one but if i remember programmed psychosis is the only one that requires you to go hard mode

the rest can be cheesed on standard or even casual

[frank cairn]

I mean, trying it gave me much insight in how broken that game really is

[balmy patio]

and i believe programmed is the only one that needs true solo?

[frank cairn]

And you need to do it alone in Multiplayer

[frank cairn]

Yes

[narrow geode]

The achievement I'm trying to get wants me to do it on hard mode

[red sparrow]

That would make sense, considering the 911 call says gun shots were heard inside, and a FISA agent being inside. That much agencies responding would make sense

[molten flame]

Honestly I was half expecting to find a bunch of disgruntled postal workers inside

[balmy patio]

yea hthat would be programmed i believe

there are whole guides or you could ask us that have gotten the achievement

[frank cairn]

I believe its a lore thing that the City is so underfunded, that D-Platoon is doing stuff all time, where other Forces would normally be there.
And you have the whole Judge thing going, which makes Los Suenos some kind of artifically ruined playground.

[balmy patio]

IMO i am of the opinion that ANA is easier non lethal up to the fourth floor but the general strat is just to make a pathway that rushes straight into the 4th floor ammo box

mainly by taking the secret entrance

[red sparrow]

ahahaha, its technically the sense because of how annoying they are while a literal shootout took place and the postal office being full of armed suspectss

[frank cairn]

I watched 4 guides multiple times, learned a lot, got better, but its still so tough.
Got to the final floor once and got killed without knowing from where 😄

[balmy patio]

i would recommend M32A1 and MKV together just to make it as safe as possible

[narrow geode]

"The Heat is On" is the one I'm trying to get

"Complete ‘All Gods Burn’ without Armor or a Shield equipped and without using grenades, on ‘Hard’ difficulty."

[molten flame]

also the funny thing - the Los Sueños Postal Service directly violates the United States Constitution

and since the feds love their money, it shouldn’t even exist

[balmy patio]

oh that one, i would recommend LFG on the discords that they do for those

thankfully you can have a fully coordinated team for that one but programmed nah

[red sparrow]

Really, why is that ?

[molten flame]

the United States Postal Service has the sole monopoly on non-urgent mail, and congress has the sole ability to establish post offices

[frank cairn]

Yeah and shady stuff never happened in the US.
Even the actual president is a saint.

[red sparrow]

😂

[red sparrow]

Its kind of a good thing. You don't really want to let private corporations handling everyday American's mail

[molten flame]

its not that

its that the feds love their money

if they didn’t make money off of it they wouldn’t give a SINGLE damn

[frank cairn]

No, its just a game.
Its not a 100% depiction

And I just finished "We own this city"
Everything is possible in America. 😄

[red sparrow]

Is it like a cop show of some kind ?

[frank cairn]

Yeah. HBO, 6 episodes and all the events were real.

[red sparrow]

I looked it up, its pretty dark

[frank cairn]

Yeah, its bad

[signal crow]

For the beat cop achievement, can you still use the riot shield?

[frank cairn]

On your back
Not actively
Dont put it on AI
If they use it, achievemtn gone

[signal crow]

I seee, alright, thanks!

[frank cairn]

No worries.
I had so many tries until it worked.
Would be great if the devs would release a full "What is ok and what no" description

[signal crow]

Yeahh true

[red sparrow]

True ! Cause 9 times out of 10 the requirements only apply to you, but can sometimes also apply to the Ai as well

[frank cairn]

On these achievements
I never let my Squad use nades (some people say its ok, but I avoided it)
I never made arrests, because thats usage of a tool.
I dont lockpicked.
I let my squad handle all.
I only used the pistol and literally nothing else

I think its ok to tell civs to leave the area

and shield only back, as said

[signal crow]

Oww even arrests should be avoided?

[frank cairn]

I got told so and it worked for me. The squad can handle that all

[signal crow]

alr

[frank cairn]

Squad can have armour, weapons, whatever you like.
Just dont let them use shields and if achievement says "no nades" I let them clear without nades.
Beat Cop is actually not a big deal letting them clear withoug nades

[signal crow]

oh so squads can you all the weapons, you just cant?

[pulsar lake]

Does putting the AI in more firefights/having them do more arrests make them get their trait faster?

[frank cairn]

Yeah
You go in Pistols, they go in Guns blazing

I believe on Beat Cop, when I got it, I downed 1 suspect 😄

[civic birch]

Why are the achievements so hard?

Like I know with the right tactics Ironman mode can be a piece of cake, but having no officers die through every mission seems ludicrous...

[pulsar lake]

Deadass. Or they resign after 2 missions

Still curious how the mode is fair with the bullshit stress system

[civic birch]

Exactly! So not only do you have to somehow survive yourself, but you have to either go non-leathal, or swap officers every mission.

[tacit gull]

It is a dogshit mode but the stress is extremely lenient, that is absolutely not the issue if you can get like 3 arrests every mission

[civic birch]

Forget to check one doorway in Ides of March and you're back at square one.

[tacit gull]

skill issue

[civic birch]

Ikr, but it still happens

Or the bombs on the Elephant, you have to have everything memorized.

[pulsar lake]

Lmao I got 4 arrests on 23 MB/s and someone's already anxious

[signal crow]

what you can do and i know this is kind of cheesing it but still

if something happens that would ruin it, close the game with alt f4

that way it doesnt save the game and thus the death of an officer

[frank cairn]

If you have too much stress on squad
Do first mission on S Rank
And it reduces stress
Give them all Bean Bags, you run Flash Launcher
Its easy

[red yarrow]

yuh arn works very well

[covert oriole]

Why wouldn’t they bring back the scenario thingy from early access?

[civic birch]

That was longer ago than you probably think.

[red yarrow]

how much armor does .300blk penetrate?

[glass heart]

jhp pens l3a, ap penetrates l4

just use jhp, l4 enemies are very rare in the base game missions

[red yarrow]

yeah like, isnt just quadamah l4 in base game?

[glass heart]

yeah but hes literally the only l4 suspect in that mission

[civic birch]

It's kinda insignificant. It's more than the 5.56/.223 guns. If you're worried about pen run a battle rifle and the 5.7.

[glass heart]

look up MMMM spreadsheet for specifics

[covert oriole]

Yeah ik it’s a very long time ago but still it was fun

[red yarrow]

whats the worst primary weapon in the game?

[glass heart]

the raider

p320 carbine kit thing

its pistol caliber and doesnt have select fire

for ltl the worst one is the tpl

[civic birch]

The Flux Raider is baller, wdym???

[red yarrow]

so its just a shitty pistol but in the primary?

[glass heart]

its funny but its pretty shit imo

[red yarrow]

omg whys it got no irons

[glass heart]

just get a submachine gun if you want pistol caliber primary

[civic birch]

It's not a swat weapon. I'll give you that. It's a PDW. It would be for RP more than anything.

[red yarrow]

yeah like, at least the mp5 can go full auto

and has irons

[rigid ridge]

Can I get the Targeted Manipulation achievement and a S rank at the same time on A New America, or does detonating the explosives myself affect my score?

[civic birch]

I'd assume so lol.

[civic birch]

It's both a PCC and PDW I suppose. And a SBR if you put a stock on it :3.

I love the ATF. (not)

[frank cairn]

You only can get S Rank if all objectives are done.
If the bombs go off, one is not done.

[rigid ridge]

Thanks I didn’t know if it just instantly killed me or did nothing at all.

Or something in between

[final ember]

''breach and wait for me'' is so inconsistent smh
sometimes they breach as soon as my throwable goes off (as they're supposed to) other times they breach only when I move in first

pick one, game

[visual mortar]

real

I always just go solo even in commander
sometimes the bots just get in the way

[nimble ravine]

keep hunks mask on wth

[frank cairn]

Yeah its annyoing that the game cant remember the skins you want, especially with Gas mask

[rocky jacinth]

Going for programmed psychosis is gonna drive me mad what's ur guys setup?

[red yarrow]

ok how can a random tweaker take a .300blk and not even flinch

second one does it tho

oh its kinda cause i forgot to switch from ap to jhp

still tho, id flinch at least if i was shot by a gun

[hybrid belfry]

yeah no shit😭

[frank cairn]

DM4PDW
Videoskop
Light Armour
Ceramic
5 AP Mags
1 Flash
4 Stinger
2 Wedges
1 Lockpick Pistol
Ballistic Mask
NV Goggles
Anti Flash Glasses

[frank cairn]

Yeah thats the issue with my earlier clip, too

Subdermal Armour these Suspects have

[hybrid belfry]

g36C, 5AP mags
2011P, 2AP mags
Breaching shotgun
Light armor with front only steel plates
NV goggles
Flash glasses
a few grenades

[rocky jacinth]

Thanks guys ❤️

[sour osprey]

SCAR
Glock 19
5 AP Mags
2 AP mags (side arm)
5 9-Bangs
Quads-Goggles
Anti Flash Glasses

[frank cairn]

A shorter gun made a huge difference for me, because I could shoot more often behind doors.
Still didnt beat it, but feels better.

But then first Yt vids on that topic ran Buckshot shotgun, very successfully.

Pretty sure I dont need better armour, because I do mostly to headshots anyway

Do you guys really use the Pistol on that map for that Achievement?
And with Ammo Restock on last Level I find 5 Mags absolutely enough

[bold sky]

ill be honest a lot of people just mod the game w cheats to do achievement

so if you see abnormal loadouts its usually just a heavily modded game

but dm4 is definitely an insane weapon bc of how its short, its also lightweight so you snap to aim instantly, and it still uses .300 which is arguably one of the best caliber in the game, even if a bit not as useful for new america

[wanton kite]

all you have to do to not have ammo problems is run P90 and tapfire headshots, it's just that easy

[frank cairn]

Best advice in all gaming history "Just headshot, all so easy, game not hard, git gud"

[frank cairn]

Thanks for the recommendation.
It was on my list as a fun nasty little Powerhouse, but I enjoy it a lot.
"...even if a bit not as useful for new america"
What you mean here?

[bold sky]

.300 strongest selling point is its jhp going thru most armor except for the highest tier of armor suspects can wear

but new america dangerous suspects are all cladded in max armor

[frank cairn]

Ah I get it

[bold sky]

so you have to use .300 ap anw, which means its just same dps as 5.56 ap weapon

but dm4 itself is still such a good gun it still holds its own there

[frank cairn]

So a G36C might be better, because it does the same and has less recoil

[bold sky]

the only other gun i considered before i finish the map was f90 for the long range shots on 3rd floor

i think g36c is ok if you are someone who ads a lot, i use canted laser sight almost 100% so g36c kinda suck bc the canted laser sight on it is harder to estimate

also great if you play the game on trash resolution bc then sro image is so good

f90 being able to take sdr 1-4 for the extra recoil reduction when canted firing is nice + you get the sdr for the 3rd floor lobby

[frank cairn]

F90 could be another pick. Since Bullpup its shorter, too

[bold sky]

mcx is a strong gun too if you canted fire, the only minor downside is its semi at extreme range has a lot of visual recoil unlike f90

but when you are canted firing dm4 kinda just dominates right now if you recoil control a bit

the weight/inertia rework really makes it lightweight valuable

[civic birch]

I can never get the canted laser to hit where I'm aiming consistently, which is fine since that's realistic, but what's the point in doing that when the canted sights are out now?

[frank cairn]

I only use single shots fast tapping anyway^^

[bold sky]

bc canted laser open fov is much bigger

so you can aim track targets better

[civic birch]

Right, but what's it matter if I don't hit them?

[frank cairn]

You didnt record your run on that map, right?

[bold sky]

i mean should I? i didnt think it was a big achievement bc there were people who did it before me, so i got a lot of route ideas from them

[hybrid belfry]

How can i possibly make my multiplayer character look like John RoN (The black n white trailer guy)

[frank cairn]

I understand

[bold sky]

esp the use ir trap as bait

[frank cairn]

Yeah thats just the best

[bold sky]

you really need to abuse ir, like literally the last floor w sunflower, you save the ir

[frank cairn]

Or yelling until they stack

[bold sky]

if you step on ir you can bait them to run out to side doors and just trim their numbers

[civic birch]

I still haven't been able to do that one solo.

[bold sky]

last room is insanely easy when its just sunflower + 1/2

[frank cairn]

You cant bait all of them out the last room, right?

[bold sky]

i think its hard but w rng maybe? i never got all of them out, but i definitely draw 4 out on the first successful attempt

2 from each side, one with ir, the other w just yelling and 1 bait shot

[frank cairn]

Nice

[bold sky]

if you are comfortable w shield hitbox, you can also run shield on that map, turn your back against them when you lean so you bait them to shoot you then jiggle back in insta

if you do it right it'll only hit the shield and you get no damage, but they see you and chase you

they dont always chase you head on but a lot of times new america ai is aggressive enough to just start moving

[frank cairn]

That achievement is just find all the cheese possible 😄
And get the aim right

[bold sky]

i think its just that map allows you to cheese

it definitely looks daunting at first when i attempted to plan route but when people told me to just shield lean cheese + ir trap bait its ridiculously easy

bc a lot of the tough angles are just gone w shield lean bait

i never hold shield in hand btw, you can do that to make it safer? but then you risk the swapping back to rifle downtime

shield is kinda funny in this game bc you play it like medieval crossbowmen, if you are in trouble you just toggle your mouse to the high sensitivity settings, turn around 180 and present your back with the shield, point the gun down a bit so the shield angles up slightly more and tank the shots lol

its also great when checking angles that suspects cant shoot at your legs bc then just turning 180 is enough for shield to cover everything

[rocky jacinth]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-writing-down-jeremiah-buie-gif-16911555

Dang the gif was perfect, I'ma try shield strat cause it's driving me mad lol

[frank cairn]

The unpredicatble ineffectiveness of nades drives me crazy.
Happens so often.

[bold sky]

should enable subtitles

so you can check for targets and hit confirmation

nade that connects always results in a text pop

tho civ does mess up the indicator

[frank cairn]

They are on.
Good call. I am too impatient on nades, becase effect wears off so fast

[bold sky]

also makes it easier to know whos having a rap diss battle w you when you spam f thru an open door lol

[frank cairn]

😄

[twilit wave]

Toc gotta relax for a bit

Like god it's one person that I THOUGHT was reaching

[slim verge]

Why everybody's game crashing so oftenly?

[wind gyro]

mine isnt

[slim verge]

mine is fine as well but it is usually host guys whos game is crashing

[wind gyro]

my game never crashed when hosting for my friends

[plush leaf]

https://x.com/jmscaronte/status/2058605148528583010?s=46

Kinda somewhat feeling justified to ask the devs for the Nth time to mlve the Flux Raider to handgun category

[wind gyro]

if you want to ACTUALLY suggest stuff use #1050529506022137876 or #📩feedback-reports-channel

[plush leaf]

I did, for the Nth time

Don’t think devs will listen

[frank cairn]

Have Faith 😄

[wind gyro]

well asking for it in here yeah, also there wasnt an update

[turbid mauve]

What weapon would yall recommend for mirage at sea?

[plush leaf]

Ping me when they actually do simply move it to the sidearm class

[wind gyro]

s or a rank?

[frank cairn]

1. Not your servant
2. I cant simply move anything

[plush leaf]

1301 w/buck for lethal, M32 w/ flash for non-lethal

[turbid mauve]

A

[plush leaf]

I’m aware of that, just messing with you

[frank cairn]

She is watching!

[frank cairn]

What Invictus said.
I did it with MCX
G36C will do surely or DM4

[turbid mauve]

Thank yall

[wind gyro]

im g3a3 or ga51

both are fun just g3a3 has a longer barrel

[frank cairn]

That works very well too

[plush leaf]

For serious gameplay I mostly run the 1301, ARN-180 or GA-51. However I just run whatever I want if I’m LARPing

[plush leaf]

Slightly less recoil for twice the barrel length, not really ideal for CQC

(Also Idk why they call it the GA51, the rails aren’t made by Geissele Automatics like that on the 416 to call it that)

[frank cairn]

But good old G3 has just a great feel to it

[plush leaf]

I mean, if you wanna feel how Marines cleaned house in Fallujah back in ‘04 then yeah go ahead

Actually a based choice

17.7” is still shorter than their 20” A4s

[wind gyro]

idk i like them, i dont use full auto anyway except for the p90

[plush leaf]

P90 & MP7 auto head beaming is fun

Kinda wish that other SMGs would get extended mags and more mags on kit in general, kinda ridiculous how you only get 1 mag per +1 just like rifles

[jagged quartz]

Mp7 is such a banging smg

[plush leaf]

MPXs do have +11 baseplates from TTI that John Wick uses, MP9s have +10 custom-made baseplates and MP5s have mags of pretty much all capacities you can think of

[red yarrow]

whats the best sight for the arn?

[distant rose]

personal preference

try them all out in firing range and see which you like best imo

(personally i like the 510C, XE sight and SDR 1-4x but again it's just personal preference)

[finite oxide]

hi what is the keybind to detonate the door bomb

[red yarrow]

alt+f4

[red yarrow]

ok so having a scope on a carbine seemed weird to me at first but this is nice

[shut ocean]

guys wheres the prisoner dummy guy in hq

i cant find him

[red yarrow]

shot him with .950 JDJ fatmac and he ceased to exist

[shut ocean]

but where is he i wanna do the same too

[red yarrow]

downstairs into training facility, make a right, then immediate left before you enter the parking garage

[shut ocean]

its walled off

[red yarrow]

then idk

[shut ocean]

barricaded by a desk

🥀

[wanton kite]

yeah he's gone for this iteration of the station

[sour osprey]

Hey guys, Does the suppressors do anything else than making your gun silent?

[frank cairn]

In the attachment menu there you see on the right the pros and cons of all attachments

What are the pros over using a DM4 and not a ARn 180?
Arn kicks less, same Ammo, and not super long, too

[sour osprey]

Alr thanks

[marble flume]

Well if you want the true list, consult the mighty spreadsheet

[sour osprey]

There is one?

[marble flume]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=1878248973#gid=1878248973

[pulsar lake]

Duuuude The Hermit sucks

Lost twice to Ends of the Earth, somehow

[red yarrow]

man the scope is so nice for hostage situations

[marble flume]

Just alt-f4 whenever you die

[edgy trench]

"Took the easy way out" style literally.

[marble flume]

I mean, considering how cracked the suspect AI is (and how dogshit YOUR friendly AI is) I think its fair

[civic birch]

You must not have the DLC.

If you go into the multiplayer mode does the station go back to normal?

[red yarrow]

nope

[civic birch]

I liked the old station layout.

[marble flume]

I liked the old station, but this game just works like that

[civic birch]

Everything was so much closer.

[bitter arch]

How do I install mods?

[sour osprey]

They took the Target away from the lobby

We need him back so we can act via the ROE

[marble flume]

me shooting civs in the chest with a magnum so I can restrain them without talking to them

[sour osprey]

The ROE can kiss my boots, I am gonna shoot everybody I see

Even my teammates

I already shot em all once

[lost inlet]

Shorter length i guess.

[lost inlet]

SRS.

[sudden gorge]

Just found out suspects can pick up dead officers’ weapons, which also includes less-lethals

Yeah a mindjot guard shot at me with the primary flash launcher dropped by my teammate lol; now I’m wondering if they can use the shield too since that’s a piece of evidence as well

[tribal swift]

wtf

I never thought that was possible.

[soft thunder]

'Tis why we make sure to secure all weapons

[rocky jacinth]

He's like I have the power of good 🤣, I hope they can't pick up shields lol

[cedar wigeon]

watching my swat ai slaughter the HVT because he pulled a gun after i made him crawl towards us for a 2 minutes

[lost inlet]

don't tell them to turn around, it puts them on a 15 seconds to auto standing up when they don't have line of sight on any swat.

[cedar wigeon]

i watched bro the entire time

facing me

[lost inlet]

rip then.

[muted current]

do we deal less damage while bleeding?

[jolly verge]

No

[muted current]

what would cause a suspect to take 10 .308 HPs to the face?

[marsh lark]

Do we even have a 308

[jolly verge]

No

[marsh lark]

Kekw

[muted current]

G3a3, SA58, etc

[stable kernel]

.50ae and 6.5 creedmoor were balanced very well, let's add more

[marsh lark]

Not aware of any hitreg issues with either of those guns

[marsh lark]

[muted current]

hitreg wasnt an issue, there was blood on every hit

[marsh lark]

The answer is obviously that no, it shouldn't happen

[muted current]

I get that, I'm trying to figure out WHY so I can bug report it

[jolly verge]

Was it SP or MP mode while being client?

[muted current]

solo on mp mode

[jolly verge]

That not a thing in SP so the only way to see blood splatter without any damage is playing multi while being client

[muted current]

so you're saying it might be desync/packet loss on multiplayer server? I guess that begs the question: when "hosting" is it ad hoc hosting on my computer, or is the server acting as host?

[stable kernel]

The game is still peer to peer, so you will be the host in solo multiplayer

[muted current]

hrmmm... Do MLO gas masks count as "armor"?

[jolly verge]

There is no hitreg issue when hosting the game. You simply missed your shots

[jolly verge]

No

[muted current]

Watching the replay now and it seems there's a 2.5ft drop. My reticle was on his face, my shots where hitting his balls...

But I didn't miss thank you very much

[vast chasm]

tarkov CQCM mask:

[vast chasm]

❤️

[muted current]

fucking lol
Tagilla has entered the chat

[vast chasm]

fuck mindjot

[vast chasm]

at first i was surprised why tagilla was taking a 95rn rpk16 drum to the face like a good boy

fine fine i loaded it with whatever bullets was lying around

probably PS, PP, HP

but i thought at first it was just a stupid plastic mask

because i only recognized tagilla with his welding masks

surprise surprise that shits class 4

[muted current]

lol yeah it's terribly unrealistic.
Tbh I used to really struggle with tagilla because I kept following people's advice to shoot him in the legs or neck... He just kept killing me over and over until I learned to just mag dump 9mm in the face. Yeah that mask is class 4, but its not gonna stop 30 angry bees

[winter sphinx]

Gonna have the WR for S rank Hard Elephant by tomorrow

I had it twice tonight but choked on the final arrest both times lol

[winter sphinx]

Okay done

lol S rank elephant

True solo

13:13min

On hard

[ivory geyser]

Which weapons are best for bots

[frank cairn]

If I run S Rank Then 3 get Bean Bag and 1 has a Flash Launcher
If they should hit hard Battle Rifles
Otherwise whatever you like and prefer

Is there an overview which Armor Level is worn by enemy types and on which map?

[ivory geyser]

I am running new america lethal

[jolly verge]

Any 7.62x51 rifle for Standard on missions without extra health
Any .300blk or 7.62x39 rifle for Hard difficulty

[jolly verge]

Map Info https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?usp=drivesdk

[frank cairn]

Thank you

[split edge]

i hope who ever made new americas bot reaction speed get a good place in the afterlife

[frank cairn]

Or their X-Ray Vision.
Yesterday one guy was alerted that I was there. But he didnt saw me.
I moved to another door and 3 times he just shot at my location, while I was moving outside of the room, behind thick walls. 😄

When I arrived to flank him, he was gone, of course.

[split edge]

classic bots with wallhacks and aim bot

[frank cairn]

The last couple days I try "Programmed Psychosis" and its the best way to find so much badly written stuff, which is still in Game.
I mean, its fine. If you just the play the game, all good, but holy moly, does this feels like Early Access and not a fully finished title, as it is sold.
And since the devs dont mind to share their minds on the state of the game I dont assume they dont care, it would be unfair, but I assume they just slap these achievements in, without doing them themselves.
And often my runs ended because of my mistakes, but at least the same amount of weird bs shit just happens and so that achievement is always a luck based one.

[split edge]

yah you need a good seed

[frank cairn]

I know how toxic and salty people can be, but I would really love to see devs thoughts on these things and IF they want to fix things.
In other communities you always have 1-3 devs happily talking with people.
Here I am not even sure if they read things, if they care about things.
I mean you could dismiss it as "If the game, as intended, with full squad, overall works, we dont need to check on the mad solo players" - fair, but otherwise I would say, a game should be as bug and glitch free as possible.
And it starts with full SWAT members, who cant nade rooms 100% of the time, or dont follow commands and it ends with "Solo, hard, MP Lobby and the enemies get super powers"

[signal patrol]

I wanna be a civilian in the next DLC

Id do it for free

[frank cairn]

I would be either a very sus looking civilian or one of the guys on the Oil Rig haha

[vast chasm]

true

im not trying for ironman

but the ai sure are hard of executing commands sometimes

and reacting appropriately to being engaged by hostiles

[frank cairn]

My most favourite Glitch atm is, when I order an AI member to cuff a suspect and in animation they draw a gun and shoot and that AI mate doesnt fight back. He REALLY wants to cuff.
So sometimes they dont do your commands, sometimes they cant think of anything else, even self defense. 😄

Checking on these Spreadsheets.
Do I understand it right, that the bullets never hit 100% where I aim, because the game lets the bullet fly always from a straight line from the barrel and not match that line with the Sights?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[frank cairn]

I dont even know what to say about that design

[crude prism]

Well it's realistic(TM)

To keep it simple, it works like this.

If you have a laser or something mounted aligned with the barrel you can use that for horizontal reference as well.

[frank cairn]

Yeah thats why you in real life go to a range, check where your shots land and adjust your sights accodingly, what I would expect from SWAT members to do 😉

The green line is deffo correct, the red line not (realistic)

[crude prism]

Zeroing for "uh" and "what's a zero?"

"bro my sights point straight, why would I do anything else?"

[frank cairn]

I mean, since I am not from Murica I dont have that much contact to guns, but my father is a Hunter and I was often at the range, where he and his friends did exactly that: Check where Shots land and adjust it.

So even these drunk, old men could do it better than Los Suenos PD

[crude prism]

Yeah it would work if RoN used a projectile system instead of hitscan

atm it would just mean you shoot short up close and high far away with the lines never re-crossing

[frank cairn]

Yeah next step to learn.

[frank cairn]

Thanks for all your work, btw. Your Spreadsheets are amazing

[crude prism]

Thanks for reading 🙂

[final ember]

holy fucking shit, AI team
if I tell you ''move there'' then fucking move there

[tacit gull]

what a weird concept

it's almost like it did

[crude prism]

Erm, are you leaking pre-alpha NDA content sir

[tacit gull]

does the pre alpha nda constitute the trailer in which they literally showed the debug of the system off

[crude prism]

Depends whether or not they're ban hammer hungry today

[tacit gull]

i'm alredy banned

[crude prism]

🥀

[tacit gull]

the incident was years ago you have to let it go

[stable kernel]

It's so over for you

[tacit gull]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/817392676033789983/1192893043133644890/rotorasus.gif

[jolly verge]

[ivory geyser]

New america suspects really like going for heads

[solemn patio]

And not missing

Ive noticed the shield doesnt help very well on a new america much because they just aimbot around the shield and bushwack you

[tacit gull]

hashbrown saved from the brink of death

[frank cairn]

Ah they are from the movie "Wanted"
Makes all sense now

[hybrid swan]

Why can suspects kiss us and still shoot us but we have our guns up 💔💔

[cedar mulch]

Why has VOID removed the bulletproof vest skin from the car dealership?

[solemn patio]

Got shot by an MLO dude who couldnt even raise his fal, they have the option to make it realistic with suspects lowering their guns they just dont do it

[hybrid swan]

Yeah it’s kinda crazy, sometimes would rather kiss my dog than deal with these AI

[tacit gull]

yeah mmm what's the reason behind that

[frank cairn]

Gosh I just hate it how suspects just ignore direct hits.
unarmored guy on ANA, hit with JHP and he just slow walks further. Second hit brings him straight down.
But this absolutely non reacting, non hit reg thing is a no go in any shooter.
I dont understand why its not implemented properly.

[wet patio]

once i shot a suspect point blank in the chest like 3 times, he tanked all 3 and then one tapped me.

a shotty w slugs btw

[frank cairn]

Yeah exactly that stuff.
Yesterday someone said "because you used AP ammo"
Today it was JHP and still happens.
And thats why I would love to hear the devs ideas, why they do it like this?
This game sometime has the worst hit reg of all shooters I play. Thats not an exaggeration.
Hit Reg is so important.
And here sometimes there is simply none or suspects dont care.
Marketing for RoN is something like realistic SWAT shooter...300 Blackout JHP to the upper chest with no reaction is neither realistic, nor fantasy. Its just bad.
Or slugs.
or or or

[regal wasp]

I mostly noticed it on civillians lol.
Accidentally hit one in the crossfire, and he doesn't even flinch, just stands there, like: 😕

[frank cairn]

My guess for the internal system is that a physical reaction starts at a certain point of damage taken.
Before that they dont flinch and it looks like there was no bullet/no hit.

But still not optimal design.
Its on the same level with "Hard enemies get OG hitscan back, because hard"
or "We counter that, with slow turning enemies"

All those systems feel like a quick placeholder before a more worked out system takes over.
But since devs dont talk, its just guessing.

Since its all guessing could be too, that the bullet simply dont register.

[jolly verge]

Stagger is chance based. It's guarantee only on armor hit with 7.62x51, .50AE and slugs ammo.

JHP have higher stagger chance than AP on flesh hits.

And stagger chance on flesh hits is halved on hard difficulty

[frank cairn]

And I get staggered on every fart in my general direction

[regal wasp]

I think its more likely intentional design, because the stun system is already there

Its just a matter of what values are set. I would say its most likely that the stun chance is intentionally not 100% as part of intended difficulty. Guaranteed stun on hit for enemies would make the game much easier

[frank cairn]

I dont need a full stun on every hit, but some kind of reaction like a small animation or a shout.
Aimpunching them, etc

There is room to make it better

And why do you have only a under a second time to kill a suspect, where you are in the back aka out of LoS, because they magically sense you from 10 meters away and then 180 no scope you?
Its so counter intuitive.
For me its hard to learn that I am not save while I deffo should be.

[jolly verge]

The point is - you don't. You can shoot and tank 10 shots of 7.62x51 at the same time just fine

[fallow hollow]

Hi, do someone have any tips or guide to beat Greased Palms on hard, because I swear that map is not even fair. Its all about RNG, even on Standard you had to pray not to get spotted by someone hidden behind 3 billion crates that just one tap you to the head

[bold sky]

you can shield spam that map bc they have no armor

so literally just walk w a shield and a pistol

its all open field, get the rhythm down to fire your pistol w laser sight and its basically a free map

keep one or two mag of buckshot with you in case rng is bad and your shield is just bullet holes, then you put shield in back and use it for shield lean cheese or just like crossbowmen, you play w shotgun, if you mess up and get shot at from god knows where you flick your mouse and let your shield tank it while you retreat and swap angle

[fallow hollow]

I've been trying with the shield because I saw it was op, but my issue is that even tho I have my shield up, the ennemies always seems to one tap me in the head even tho they are right at the front of my shield

[jolly verge]

Take ballistic mask then

You can also use cs gas to mask your position and kill suspects from it https://youtu.be/aSAYwXUmmLE?si=LkWJdN8bwzWx0lSM

[bold sky]

"even tho i have my shield up the ennemies always seem to one tap me in the head"

im ngl press x to doubt unless you literally bend down and present your head

there are a lot of ways to die in this game btw

getting headshot in this game by bots is nowhere near as often as people think but you do die in hard mode from 2 bullets a lot

[fallow hollow]

I don't have clips, but I don't know how I die, because it really seems like its a one tap, I expose myself with the shield and I die

[frank cairn]

Staggered = aimpunched, vision blurred, etc.
Means: I get a downside, enemies not always.

[bold sky]

i mean its known in this game that if you are playing lethal its impossible to expect suspect to stagger atp

you see how they strafe you left to right while spraying with barely any accuracy penalty on hard mode

anyone who tells you to rely on staggering them back w anything is just trolling you or just been playing the game on ez mode or mod the crap out of it to make it easier

its insanely rough to try and challenge hard suspects angle in an open space if you have to expose yourself while they are stressed and strafe left and right, unless you can bring the fight down to a small angle you'll always have that chance of firing slower than them

good luck tho i think if you put in a bit more hours you'll prolly have better gunfight skills than like 90% of people in public lobby modding their games so suspects all act like twisted nerves homeless

[lost inlet]

just free lean every corners.

[frank cairn]

I do
jajaja git gud

[frank cairn]

150 hours now 😄
I have a feeling there is a barrier I dont overcome which is a mix of me not playing 100% sweaty and some bs mechanics I cant overcome that easily.
These non MLO guys getting emotional and aggressive and patrol all time are the worst for me

[frank cairn]

Yeah that

[edgy trench]

This bug really freaks me out. I press on breach in command and nobody does even smth but just looking at my face.

[ivory geyser]

Any advice on ANA

[stoic thistle]

In the mayor's office, there's a bookshelf which opens a secret passage that allows you to clear the staircase from behind.

[ivory geyser]

Ik about that

[sweet fractal]

i repeat we have lost contact with TOC

[sweet fractal]

hi lonely :D

[lost inlet]

Hi.

[sweet fractal]

the mp5SD is my fav suppressed smg

[lost inlet]

Cringe.

[silent snow]

Anyone trying to run with a brand new player? literally started the game up for first time. Add me on discord djxgam1ng. Let me know if you want to play. Located in Florida

[robust nacelle]

What a good and realistic loadout?

[lost inlet]

Good and realistic really don’t comes hands in hands in this game.

[tiny mountain]

Gotta disagree, G36C is both realistic - used in SWAT forces in a lot of countries and low recoil, short rifle that's great to use

[sour osprey]

Question, did we get the Boiling Point Teaser 6 years ago?

[tacit gull]

no?

[tacit gull]

yeah its very clearly equally as realistic as the hk51 or the MK-V or even the fact they use gpnvgs

[tiny mountain]

[quasi coral]

Obviously

[sour osprey]

I thought that teaser was random,

But looking back at it makes kinda sense now

[quasi coral]

Okay I'm just joking, I wasn't there during the medieval ages of Ready or Not, what teaser do you speak of?

[real grove]

This https://youtu.be/yagLpENXSqw

[tacit gull]

There is no teaser for boiling point

[real grove]

You back then obviously they weren't thinking of boiling point

[tacit gull]

bp is only a recent thing, probably conceptualised around the time of dw

the mlo was supposed to be a pvp faction which is what that was teasing

[fathom dawn]

I thought there was a teaser?

[real grove]

Yeah but they just added some more lore behind them and built on top of what they have already conceptualized all those years ago

[real grove]

Yeah but the pier shooting teaser was recent

[fathom dawn]

ah

[frank cairn]

I wll try Programmed Psychosis now like I did normal S Rank: Flashbang Launcher but this time with Pistol to shoot them fast.

[bold sky]

i mean you can just bring a shield to do more cheese, and bring like 2 pistol mag so you can clear the last room w shield and pistol provided your shield eyeslit are still usable

at least that achievement did the right thing and dont make you achieve any grade aside from just not failing any main objective

actual good challenge

[frank cairn]

Thats a last solution.
I dont like shield.

[bold sky]

you bring shield to lean peek in this game ngl

[frank cairn]

Well, I did get better a lot trying it 😄

[bold sky]

like you know a bot is there but the angle sucks

you can either turn your back and do a quick lean w shield so they are forced to shoot the shield and aggro to push you

only work in ana bc the bots are aggressive

or you can also just to michael jackson moonwalk into rooms where you cant see their legs, that way they only see your shield too

then turn around and shoot them once they exhaust their mag

only risk is if they actually push you into melee but thats why spatial awareness is important

[frank cairn]

Hahaha
"Sir, we cant get those Thugs!"
"Send...Michael Jackson!"

[brazen sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-smooth-criminal-smooth-criminal-gif-thriller-glitter-m-jackson-gallery-gif-4400392586414863116

Dangit it failed😔

I'm cooked

[pulsar lake]

What's the SWAT stress gain for completing the Elephant?

[solemn patio]

HAhahahahhaa

Everyone bully this individual

[brazen sequoia]

Youre lucky I cant say some things or Id get banned

[solemn patio]

Why do my ai die so fast on ana

[pulsar lake]

They're specifically ass on that map

[solemn patio]

I just had a single mlo flank and wipe our squad

[pulsar lake]

For some reason

Lowk just solo or spam the open and clear command because they generally get 1v4'd otherwise on hard

[solemn patio]

Im not playing on hard dawg

This is standard the MLO are just extremely aggressive

If I tried the strats they did id die immediately

[pulsar lake]

Try baiting

You're better off doing the majority of the work on that map

[solemn patio]

They become navy seals when i use move and clear wth

Theyre so competent what the hell

I got a cat on my bed now yoo

Dude why do these guys have insane reaction time am i gonna have to do this on casual

Should I just shoot on sight with suspects again

[marble flume]

again?

thats what I always do lol

[solemn patio]

I was trying a more passive approach because toc told me to be a good boy

[marble flume]

fuck em, and fuck the civvies too lmao

[solemn patio]

I actually wanna get a good grade ingame tho :(

[marble flume]

you can just shoot suspects and not get a penalty for it

I think the two cases where you can catch a penalty are:

1. If they've already surrendered and are fully on the ground
2. If they're hesitating to shoot you and you wait a little bit too long before shooting them. If you shoot them immediately there's zero penalty

[solemn patio]

I dislike the way they just charge in with fals that magically can phase through you and still shoot you

Their long barreled guns should have long barrel consequences

[marble flume]

The AI simply doesn't play by the same rules you do

[solemn patio]

Thats dumbb

They should save the unrealistic bullshit for hard mode not standard

[marble flume]

They can shoot through almost anything, they fire their weapons as fast as possible (they also shoot faster than you on Hard), including semi-autos, they reload faster than you, they completely ignore weapon collision, they're more accurate than your SWAT AI, they suffer zero accuracy penalties while moving and they have zero recoil at all

[solemn patio]

Who greenlighted this are they fucking stupid

[marble flume]

Actually, on Standard suspects and your SWATs have the same accuracy at 3.5. On Hard your SWATs have an accuracy of 3.2 and suspects have 2.5 lmao

[solemn patio]

They have full-er auto on hard??

[marble flume]

wait until i tell you rifle suspects shoot 50% faster on hard

[solemn patio]

WHAT THE FUCK

[marble flume]

so yes, a frail woman on a farmhouse can fire an M14 at 1125 RPM with no recoil

[solemn patio]

What the fuck i hate carriers on standard

But hard seems hellish

[marble flume]

Good luck on Hard lmao

One of my favorite "features" of this game is how armored suspects can be armored without actually looking like they're armored, and the reverse is true as well

Hard suspects also have 30 more base health, so they can tank a 7.62x51mm JHP shot to the chest with no armor and still survive, and they also have halved stagger chances to flesh hits too

[solemn patio]

I remember s guy tried to argue to me i think yesterday when i said full auto no recoil laser fals at range was unrealistic by saying “but adrenaline” you cant maintain that strength for very long periods of time

[marble flume]

This game has one of those types of communities where you'll have people defending the most dogshit game design choices known to man and call you shit at the game for arguing it

[solemn patio]

Tactical shooters and milsims have those playerbases 6 times outta 10

[marble flume]

The AI is easily the worst part of this game, everything else is at least decent

and I mean, if you just abuse how good Steel armor and a Ballistic Mask is in this game, the AI on Standard generally isn't that bad

[solemn patio]

Flashlight baiting is beautiful omg

[marble flume]

flashlights are actually so unbelievably fucked

[solemn patio]

Narcos was very difficult for me

[solemn patio]

In a good or bad way

[marble flume]

Oh, almost always in your favor, the enemies lose half their braincells the moment they spot one

I just did Sins of The Father on Hard with a pump-action shotgun, and that shit would not have been possible without the almighty flashlight

[solemn patio]

The almighty flashlight 🥹🥹

Dude i just had an mlo man ignore a flashbang and shoot me

What the FUCK IS WRONG WITH THEM

do they have brains so small when they get hit with flashbangs it doesnt harm them

I shut the door in an MLO guys face mid flashbang throw then pushed and he was unaffected

This game is so fucked up

[marble flume]

which type of flashbang?

[solemn patio]

Normal flashbangs

I also had one ignore when their own flashbang landed in the room they were in

[marble flume]

They might not be affected by their own flashbangs

they should be stunned by your flashbangs to my knowledge

[solemn patio]

I shouldnt be affected by mine then if theyre gonna be doin that bullshit

[marble flume]

You avoid most of the issues with antiflash goggles lol, you're just slowed down

[solemn patio]

I think that ana should have less bsg

[marble flume]

damn, semi-auto shotguns are kinda just busted as shit

[strong gull]

Was there a headquarters style for dark waters and home invasion?

[solemn patio]

I might try the 1301 on ana

First ill try the m14 some

[crisp garden]

home invasion had the hurricane going on outside

[solemn patio]

They just pixel peeked me through the top window above the door what the fuck

Guy on a staircase

[marble flume]

is it possible for the terrorist leader on Neon Tomb to just... not spawn?

[solemn patio]

This game really killed the immersion with a new america lowkey

I dont feel like im playing some gritty slow paced tactical shooter

I feel like im in an action movie as the grunt that gets slimed out by the hero

[frank cairn]

I spent sometimes over 60 mins on that map
No more slow possible

And I mean the overarching RoN Story is very much that.
Jason Bourne style

[solemn patio]

They may have put too many suspects on ana or smth

Feels like theres a small army everywhere I go

[frank cairn]

Port Hokan has a similar number

[ripe prairie]

Does taking a defensive position and/or switching weapons increase the chance of a suspect surrendering, or is it all rng based?

[frank cairn]

3 Letter Triad, too

[solemn patio]

So thats why triple letter triad is impossible for me on standard

Dude this is genuinely pissing me off

[frank cairn]

I get that
First time I beat it alone with AI squad it was 45 minutes
Now its around 17
And I am not afraid any more to do it.

[solemn patio]

Its that one room with the huge gunfights

I think they should tone down the rate of suspects with battle rifles or lock them to semi

[frank cairn]

I recommend the Small Flash Launcher
"Open clear with Bang"
I throw a second Bang in with them
Then Launcher 3rd bang where needed
It really helps

[solemn patio]

Why can they run guns raised no movement or accuracy penalty

[real grove]

Are you saying that full auto, 100% accurate, sprinting suspects are unrealistic? Nah bro, you gotta be joking

[solemn patio]

My bad man yeah only thing unrealistic is they cant bust through walls and see you through 3 walls and wallbang onetap you

[frank cairn]

You should have tried it in Early Access 😄
Its so much better now.
But thats not mocking.
Its a tough game and the AI is not well written

[solemn patio]

I heard they pixel peeked

[frank cairn]

Sometimes they see you through walls.
Deffo happened to me

[solemn patio]

Relapse with the g3 suspects good lordy lord!

[real grove]

That's why I play casual when I wanna have fun and play semi realistically

[frank cairn]

It was 9/10
Open a room, suspect is fully showing his back, turns around, headshot

[frank cairn]

Yeah, absolutely.
After all Achievements, never hard again. Feels like back then. total bs

[solemn patio]

I might just flip to casual cause this isnt fun

[frank cairn]

You have some Maps which really amps it up.
Greased Palms
(elephant for different reasons)
Relapse
Port Hokan
3 Letter triad
New America

[real grove]

Do so definitely

[real grove]

Idk if this is all truth but watch this, it might explain A LOT https://youtu.be/3iJxM6xCl4g?t=3m37s

[solemn patio]

They should lower armored suspect defense, if i hit you with a 12 gauge slug to the chest with level 4 plates you are gonna fall over or be a little dazzled probably a broken rib or two

[frank cairn]

And for Flash Launcher
I just shot a Flash 1 meter behind a suspect - no effect, me dead 😄
You dont understand sometimes why things dont work

[frank cairn]

300 Blackout JHP goes through all Armour, but Level 4

[solemn patio]

ANA

Only problem is im on ana

[real grove]

I also hate how it seems like the enemies have hp instead of just reacting to every shot, sometimes they only react after a few shots

[frank cairn]

Yeah they have HP

[solemn patio]

It really gameifies it too much

[frank cairn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=1721255639#gid=1721255639

That sheet explains it all

[real grove]

And that's not great and shouldn't be so obvious

[frank cairn]

Yeah

[real grove]

Yeah

[solemn patio]

So thats why BSG are so ungodly powerful

They use JHP

[real grove]

Honestly I don't like the "meta" guns and playing it like I need to know all about the game to have fun. I just take guns that look good, turn on casual and it's cool

[frank cairn]

Totally true

But this sheet really helps me understand things better

[real grove]

Do you take different ammo types to missions?

I feel like that's just so unrealistic I just take ap and that's it

[frank cairn]

Since I learned that 300 Blackout thing I do with Armour Level 4 on maps 😄
I dont know how effective that this.
But on ANA you can mostly figure out where the Level 4 guys are and before that I play JHP

[real grove]

Bro I literally completed ana once on standard and I am never going back

I was so excited for boiling point and then it turned out they went for hollywood shootouts instead of cool small scale cqb

[frank cairn]

Idk I like it
Active Shooter thing on the Pier was fitting
A bank Heist, sweet
And ANA I like because I like the story and how it develops, but i understand your POV totally

[real grove]

First two maps are okay, it's just ana that's unnecessarily difficult

And idk, I really don't care about the story and kinda hate how they focused on it so much

[solemn patio]

Its triple letter triad but harder

They went “ooh lets cater to the nonexistent masochists who play this game!”

[real grove]

Yeah, I've seen so few people actually want the big open maps compared to the entire community that wants just simple house raids

[real grove]

3 letter triad would've been so much better if the black sentinel wasn't on it

[frank cairn]

We have...28 ??? maps in total now and most are really good

[solemn patio]

I want a mass shooting on an apartment complex with 7 dudes but a big map and alotta civs

[frank cairn]

That effs me up more.
Thematically Elephant is great, but what a nightmare 😄

[real grove]

That'd be nice to see

[solemn patio]

Like elephant but more focused on being attentive than bringing in the most rambo bullshit loadouts to outgun a small militia of suspects

[real grove]

Honestly from the main 18, half are good and the other half are unnecesarily large and difficult with too many suspects

[solemn patio]

We need options for bigger teams of ai and players

[real grove]

I hate how for example the sinuous trail is just a blood bath - very immersive

[real grove]

Honestly players yes, but I'd not want to babysit more than 4 AI teammates

[solemn patio]

That level is hardwr for me than neon tomb.

[real grove]

Yeah they're both very exhausting

[solemn patio]

The BSG are way too op they ruin every map they touch except the bank

Back to ana and tlt

Since im trying one last time to do ana standard

[pulsar lake]

That's me. Still trying to beat it

Keep getting shit on

[frank cairn]

I am not engaging on shitting all maps and designs.
because I dont want to sound sassy.
I fully understand where you are coming from, I was there, too.

Overall its a good game, lots of Jank, but I play so many janky games.
I hope they stop content for now and focus more on quality, fixes, etc.
I have over 160 hours in now and thats good stuff for my money.

But true, they should really look into some things.

I really get mad by nades dont work and I dont see why
AI Wallhacks
AI turbo reaction
AI uneffected by shots while myself gets blurry vision and aimpunch all die
Etc
And Squad not executing commands or Squad unable to reliably flash a room

Thats immersive breaking. SWAT member flashing own team 😄

[molten flame]

so wait, what's hollywood called in Ready or Not again?

[solemn patio]

I almost completed ana

But one guy who i had the drop on onetapped me

I might try using heavy armor

[digital pendant]

I'm still confused on how I died so quickly when the AI who wasn't looking at me but instead my friend killed me

I sent the clip to show proof

[rapid bobcat]

only catch to heavy armour is it only increases your surface area of protection and not depth of protection as i remember so would you not just benefit from light armour then - a heavy armour user

[solemn patio]

Im getting pissed on repeatedly by BSG because they use JHP

[rapid bobcat]

steel plate? not sure if that would help

[solemn patio]

Already using steel

[molten flame]

did the Rodney King Riots happen in Ready or Not's universe or no

[frank cairn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=1684145677#gid=1684145677

Armor Spread sheet

[rapid bobcat]

hm well not to say I got nada only other thing i can think of is ceramic but that has far less endurance so hm

[frank cairn]

Ceramic can break, steel not. True

[solemn patio]

Hmm

Full ceramic and just play it sneaky?

Do nutritionist benefits stack

[frank cairn]

no

[rapid bobcat]

LVAR jagged hollow point with heavy armor on i suppose would work

not quite my main loadout but it usually takes second place

[solemn patio]

aww

[narrow geode]

A New America might have the most terrible layout ever
You can't catch a break for two seconds in this map

[solemn patio]

It was made specifically to stress you out nothing more or less

[rapid bobcat]

i mean its an all out warzone i guess

be nice if they gave you emergancy squad members though (talking like three extra dudes or smth)

[sudden gorge]

Canonically, is the correct difficulty to play the game Standard or Hard or is it mixed? Like lore accurately does Dorms have traps or does Elephant have 5 suspects instead of 4 and such?

[solemn patio]

Id like the option to run as many swat as I want lowkey

[rapid bobcat]

standard is called standard for a reason

[solemn patio]

Gimme the option to run the entire precinct on missions

[keen arch]

Is hard mode the standard mode from before?

The console update

[narrow geode]

No

[sudden gorge]

That came to me when looking at how Rust Belt used to have traps by default, but that’s been changed to only on hard since they added difficulties

Is Rust Belt supposed to have traps or not? XP

[narrow geode]

I don't remember it having traps

[rapid bobcat]

maybe a bit over kill but still be nice to have the extra dudes every now and then for the big ones

[sudden gorge]

Oh it does
I have a vanilla (no mods) video on YouTube showing it

[digital pendant]

It has traps in the caves

[rapid bobcat]

last i checked no didn't have any runs that made me explode

[sudden gorge]

Yeah
But it doesn’t anymore on standard

[digital pendant]

I never knew I normally play it on hard

[low remnant]

how hard is it to use AI on the campaign for 30mb a second

[sudden gorge]

I mean canonically
Cause it did before, but one update later it didn’t lol

Rust Belt used to have traps

Now it only does on hard

[narrow geode]

Then I either forgot or somehow never came across them a single time

[rapid bobcat]

when i did it main point the AI struggles is the final room and thats it you should be fine for the rest of it

[rapid bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-action-mighty-morphin-huh-no-idea-gif-3433588

[low remnant]

ok

[rapid bobcat]

if you dunno and i dunno

[frank cairn]

https://cdn.corenexis.com/files/c/7166229720.png

FINALLY

[pulsar lake]

Bro I'm out here losing with squad and armor 🥀

[frank cairn]

I lost my mind
Deffo

[sour osprey]

Play Ready or Not and play FFA with your teammates

[strong acorn]

Why is ron development so slow

It’s literally killing the game

It’s the same 3 unit promos and even those are somewhat dead

[wise inlet]

my friend just got the "Programmed Psychosis" achievement by us playing with 4 people on A New America hard, and everyone except the host disconnected before ending the mission

200 iq move

[lost inlet]

LAPD doesn’t uses G36.

Is there any US swat forces that uses G36 in the first place?

[placid iris]

not to my knowledge

[deft lintel]

Jesus hard mode is not a joke..

[marble flume]

Well it is a joke, you're just at the tail end of it

[deft lintel]

I’m stuck at relapse, literally 2 missions left for the trophy but I can’t anymore 😅😂

Maybe tomorrow I try again.

[cedar mulch]

It looks like RON is on the decline. VOID is getting ready for another six months without an update.

The SWAT AI issue, they haven’t fixed it at all, nor have they adjusted the values.

[lost inlet]

Yeah, exactly.

[humble mauve]

they were surprisingly big back in the mid 2000's to early 10's

there was a video from not too long ago from one of those police channels (midwest safety I think) that had a few officers with some from last year

[rotund cypress]

ACR when

It’s never but I’m holding out hope

[thick dome]

hard mode is stupid. so many bugs..and so many values tjat are just set to stupid.

[thick dome]

ive never known any US swat to use g36. to costly in the US. Lotta mp5..and eventually m4.

now in Germany and europe..yeah prob

[neat dome]

anyone have any tips to S rank relapse and hide and seek (btw i dont have the grande flash launcher 😞)

[floral dove]

Question, I know heavy armor offers side coverage where light armor doesnt. Is there any other benefits heavy armor offers, or is it just side coverage?

[hollow badge]

can you shoot the trips in "a new America"?

[hearty summit]

Some can be damaged, others can't. I have no idea why. However, shooting them still triggers the traps leading to an ambush even if you use a silencer. I've been trying to solo clear that level for months.

[hollow badge]

[hearty summit]

Also, you can disable the one trap that sometimes spawn outside the first door on the second floor if you crouch behind the chair on the right.

[hollow badge]

I've been trying to S rank it for months 🥲

[hearty summit]

S rank? Gosh, not me...I want to solo lethal it.

I've gotten close..., so close several times...

[hollow badge]

3rd floor was the hardest part for me

[hearty summit]

Oh yeah, for sure.

[oak totem]

Need help?

[hollow badge]

nah, I think it's more satisfying if I do it solo

thanks though

[violet fiber]

What entry Point should i go for in Sins of the Father?

[frank cairn]

I like roof best.

[oak totem]

I like the elevators. Lowkey wedge off one door and push the other

[frank cairn]

I mean, no SWAT would use MK-V
Thing of RoN is that underfunded department story, where they use whatever they get their hands on, to get the department running.

[frank cairn]

Haha that needs a fix, too.
If its possible, make it more easy, please.

[lost inlet]

Just sides coverage.

[lost inlet]

Yeah, including dozen of sets of GPNVG for some reason.

[frank cairn]

Lorewise the MK-V is a one of a kind thing, but of course all players can take it.
Its a game after all.

[floral dove]

Damn, thats really it? I feel dumb
Less equipment, slower movement and slower aiming, all for just side coverage? Seems so not worth

[lost inlet]

Long ago it was needed cause fov of player doesn’t matters where they will gets hit cause even if the enemies is in front of you, you would still gets hit in the side.

So wearing heavy vest does helps a lot, now not anymore, only for newbies that started playing the game and doesn’t knows where to positions optimally.

[rigid ridge]

Can I get the secret Judge ending after A New America in Quickplay or does it need to be in Commander? I deleted all my saves for Ironman runs and don't feel like playing through the entire campaign to get it.

[strange depot]

And the double doors on the ides of march is still not fixed for the friendly ai lmao… this is just a comedy at this point.

[floral dove]

Dude the game is honestly in such a fucked state rn

I was attempting programmed psychosis and made it pretty far and a suspect just fucking TELEPORTED in front of me and killed me

[wanton raptor]

Haven't played this game in a while. Wanted to get everyone's thoughts. Is this game still popular. Is IT still widely played a lot

[rich reef]

Yeah right now is a good time to play multiplayer since Boiling Point dropped few months back

[floral dove]

its still popular and I would say still good, but tbh the game is probably in the worst state its been in in years

[wanton raptor]

Haven't actually played played it since like basically January 2024

😂

[floral dove]

SWAT AI is screwed horrificly, hard mode is essentially broken, hit detection is also incredibly inconsistent, and thats just to name a few

[strange depot]

Newest problem I’m seeing is suspects randomly teleporting in front of you. It’s a joke

[lusty light]

Ykw I really hate

When a suspect runs up in your koolaid and forces your gun up so you can't shoot, but they can still shoot you and you die because of it

[cedar mulch]

After all, elite Mexicans killer there are far more dangerous than the ordinary Mexicans you find at car dealerships and post offices

[glass heart]

the suspects themselves arent really that bad

its the clusterfuck layout that makes narcos a little problematic

[lusty light]

Word

[wanton raptor]

Well I was asking to see if I should redownload the game. Do they still develop and update it

[rich reef]

Yes

Just takes them a lot of time to push updates out

[lusty light]

one update per sometimes

[frank cairn]

Yeah but they focus mostly on new content and not fixing all the bugs and bad things developing during it, too.
So we get lots of stuff, but no fixing.

But the game is still fun, on casual. Achievement hunting can cost you some years in your lifespan 😄

[glass heart]

one update per 6-9 months usually

with a couple ineffective fixes afterward

usually more shit gets broken than fixed in their updates lmao

[glad lion]

alr i seriously wanna know, why tf are there protestors outside HQ?

[lost inlet]

pier attacks.

[glad lion]

mkay

time to do my 500 attempt to get s tier on 23 megs

I NEED THAT ANIME TATTOOO

[lost inlet]

pier terrorist wears cop's uniform and when it has been uploaded onto the internet, the people assumed the police has went rogue and protested.

[glad lion]

is that a DLC mission or?

cuz i completed all the main ones

and two for los suenos stories

[lost inlet]

i think it's base...

[glad lion]

alright

[lost inlet]

check in the boiling point part in mission selection.

[glass heart]

the pier mission is in the boiling point dlc

the first one in it

its also active shooter (but this isnt new since literally every dlc has one active shooter mission, save for dlc1)

[quasi coral]

Elevator - Go up the stairs and clear from therev

[glass heart]

elevator since you can get torn to shreds if you choose fire escape/ roof because of the windows

its the least exposed option

[quasi coral]

Very similar to roof, but it doesn't allow them to circle you

Stack both teams on each door and tell them to breach, then you can continue like usual as with roof

[quasi coral]

My man ✌️

But the roof will always be cooler

[glass heart]

true

atmosphere is cool

[glad lion]

question, what are yalls go to primarys and secondaries?

[glass heart]

i prefer the 300 blackout rifles and for secondary i use the g18 or 2011

[glad lion]

why g18, the recoil is uncontrolable

[glass heart]

300 blackout gets the same armor pen as the other 30 caliber rounds but less recoil than 7.62x51 or 7.62x39

[glass heart]

its a good panic gun in close quarters and also it gets 24 rounds with a very fast reset on semi auto

so its good both in semi auto and full auto

[glad lion]

ah alright

[glass heart]

if im clearing a stairwell and a guy pops up and surprises me i can easily dump the whole mag on him and switch to my primary

[glad lion]

true

i just wish ron had peep sights

i just put a hole through the middle of a guys torso with 308 and he is chilling 😭

[sleek rune]

Ga416 and usp

For lethal

[ivory geyser]

DAWG WHY THE FUCK DO I ALWAYS GET HEADSHOTTED IN FINAL FLOOR OF NEW AMERICA

THEY HAVE AIMBOT ON FINAL FLOOR LIKE WTF

[ivory geyser]

Mcx is best rifle because it has all attachments options and has least recoil compared to all other rifles

And mkv for 1 shot

[frank cairn]

300 Blackout JHP does all besides Armor Level 4
ARN 180 is very controlable

[sour osprey]

A SCAR with AP 5 mags
A Glock 19 with AP 3 mags
5 9-Bangs and

[sour osprey]

Mindjot evolved guards

[lost inlet]

arn-180 and five seven.

or mcx/f90 and usp.

[young lark]

@pale pecan 😄

[wide lotus]

mcx single fire silenced is so nice when i need it on missions that are too dangerous for my usual non- lethal

[ivory geyser]

And optics feel nice on it

[wide lotus]

i use the holo i forget which one

it looks like a double red dot

[ivory geyser]

There's only one holo sight are you referring to 410c

[ivory geyser]

That's exps2 I believe

[wide lotus]

i think idk

it might be the 410c

lemme see

[ivory geyser]

Double dot is eotech exps2 single dod is 410c

[wide lotus]

ill send my loadout i love c2 gas

[wide lotus]

it was the 510c

[solemn patio]

Because they made it far too fuckin big

I lowkey hate the stairs to that floor because I got pixel peeked through the windows above the doors from those stairs

Guy legit turns ans immediately sees me through that small ass window snd shoots

[tawny oracle]

I have a question about people who bought supporter edition. Do they still have HRT FBI outfit?

[wide verge]

if you didn't get the supporter edition when it was available to buy, you can't get the cosmetics that came with it. I asked a few times, void won't sell them because it would be unfair to those who got the supporters edition back in the day

[burnt gazelle]

Only one mission left to get 'S' on from all boiling point

[red yarrow]

why do the g3a3 and ga51 have such low recoil and drag

[solemn patio]

Because the devs suck at realism

G3 would have pretty low recoil due to its operating system and weight suree

But itd be heavvyyyy

The GA51 would probably give you brain damage in full auto for any extended period of timen

[glass heart]

cuz of the operating system and weight