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[grizzled belfry]

Idk about hard mode but relapse was a pain on standard

I would suggest starting at the second exit, NOT the underground parking lot

[grizzled comet]

Yeah that’s what I do, learned the hard way

[hollow nova]

just completed programmed psychosis im so ready 👀

[grizzled comet]

But like the AI teammates are dumber than usual while the suspects are cranked to like 1000. I know it’s HARD mode but like damn 💔💔

[hollow nova]

what non lethal are you using

[grizzled comet]

Bean bag shotgun, in hard mode you have to hit a suspect 6 times with the pepperball rifle to trigger the stun animation, and the rotary flash launcher is stuck behind a paywall for me

[hollow nova]

paywall?

are you console or something because the flash launcher is free

[brittle fulcrum]

It's not free on console AFAIK

[grizzled comet]

You need deluxe edition of RoN on console to unlock the flash launcher

yeah unfortunately, it’ll be after some time though

I get through every floor perfectly fine, the only area that really makes the level hard is the waiting room plus I get a weird bug where I throw flash and it’ll stun a guy halfway across the room but the guy right next to it isn’t affected whatsoever so I get blicked down before I can even blink 💔 ✌️

If yall know any strats or recommendations that would be deeply appreciated tho

[raven estuary]

How the hell? I'm still bashing my head against a brick wall trying the one on All Gods Burn with no armor and stuff. I die the moment I peek a corner. Launcher?

[hollow nova]

nope 👀

also for the heat is on just send your team in

man what do i do now that i have all the achievements

[raven estuary]

I'm so dumb, I kind of combined both hard achievements into one somehow and thought they both need to be done on multiplayer alone

Cheers

[solemn widget]

Does anyone know how i can play true solo without internet, i normally just boot up a friends only lobby but i dont got internet right now

[sudden thorn]

Just go in a quick play lobby and tell your team to hold at the beginning of a mission

[hollow nova]

thats not true solo though

[sudden thorn]

best they can have right now

[ember birch]

the ai needs a rework.

[sudden thorn]

true, both suspect and swat team ai

[grizzled belfry]

Ugh, Narcos is going to be a bit annoying to S rank

[solemn widget]

Fr
they should just let the enemy ai know where im at at all times and just let them know what inputs im doing

[ember birch]

Especially the friendly ai, the team is stupid. They do everything except what you tell them. Many times they freeze, doing nothing, or when you order them to go to a door, they go all the way around the map to cross to the other side of the door

[grizzled comet]

Or they freeze up mid action on a doorway

[sudden thorn]

Or they block you when you’re trying to go through a door

Or they throw a grenade at their feet or shoot the grenade launcher at the door frame when you tell them to open and breach

[grizzled comet]

Seeing older clips/vids pre console port they seemed smarter

[grizzled belfry]

I HIT HIM WITH THREE FUCKING BEANBAG SHOTS AND HE DID FUCKING NOTHING

REFUSED TO SURRENDER AND DOMED ME. WHAT THE FUCK.

My god, I hate it when suspect AI just does whatever the fuck

[grizzled comet]

Hate that, happens too often

[grizzled belfry]

It seems really dependent on engagement distance sometimes

Like there's a specific distance at which they just randomly refuse to surrender

[sullen lily]

Neon tomb?

[grizzled belfry]

Narcos

[sullen lily]

I hate my life too

[grizzled belfry]

I already S ranked neon tomb

[grizzled comet]

Oh yeah that’s for sure, like it’s confirmed 110%

[grizzled belfry]

I feel like it shouldn't be

Because there is a distance at which they seem entirely unable to surrender no matter what

[grizzled comet]

Yeah, a great example is in greased palms , if you’re outside the loading bay and shoot over at a suspect by the trailer they’ll do fuck all

[sudden thorn]

Imagine being a member of the hand and as you’re expecting high resistance from the swat team they’ve sent in, you see that they’re using non lethal weaponry like beanbag guns and pepper ball rifles
I love how unintentionally funny they make the game because it really makes you think why the hell would they ever enter a situations using these weapons

[grizzled comet]

Anything for the s rank 💔

[grizzled belfry]

I've also noticed that just in general if you're at a specific distance they will never surrender

Not really an issue of obstacles and more just a specific distance at which suspects won't surrender under any circumstances

[grizzled comet]

Yeah it’s stupid but I guess they use that as a way to prevent cheesing

[grizzled belfry]

Tbh the concept of the S rank wasn't well executed

[sudden thorn]

I hope they don’t change the s rank requirements, it’s supposed to be unrealistic and make you play like a super cop saving everyone’s life

[grizzled belfry]

In terms of like

Incapacitation with a lethal, that should count towards S rank

[grizzled comet]

Yeah that’s for sure

[sudden thorn]

Okay true though that should count

[grizzled belfry]

Imma say it, Narcos is genuinely more annoying to do than Hide and Seek for the S rank

At least Hide and Seek had an interesting map

[grizzled comet]

I feel like Relapse on hard mode is physically impossible to s rank as of now

[grizzled belfry]

Narcos is just getting frustrated because you got banged the fuck up for the 500th time because of bullshit mechanics or a god-awful position

[sudden thorn]

I never even tried the s ranks without the rotating flash launcher I cheesed pretty much all of them

I just can’t be bothered to deal with any of that

[sudden thorn]

That’s one reason why I dislike narcos, like the setting but the backyards areas are actual cancer with the amount of areas you can be shot from

[grizzled comet]

I don’t have the deluxe edition on console so no rotating flash launcher for me 💔

[grizzled belfry]

Yeah I really don't like this level tbh

[grizzled belfry]

I used the beanbag shotgun for basically every single one except Elephant

[sudden thorn]

I like the atmosphere and environment but gameplay wise it’s meh for me

[sudden thorn]

Elephant is pure luck, luckily I had a pretty easy s rank, only took 3 tries

Hunger strike unironically harder

[grizzled belfry]

Not good to hear.

[grizzled belfry]

I don't really mind either I just hate the gameplay of narcos

It sucked to do lethally and it's even more frustrating for the S rank because there's almost zero cover.

[sudden thorn]

You have to run faster then you have to run on elephant to save every hostage

Its ludicrous

[grizzled belfry]

HOW THE FUCK DID THEY PEN THE WALLS

I JUST GOT SHOT AT THROUGH A STONE WALL ON NARCOS

ALL THEY HAVE IS 5.56, THAT SHOULDN'T BE HAPPENING

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

OH COME THE FUCK ON

My god whoever designed this map needs to be fired, this is abysmal

I'd rather try Neon Tomb again than this shite

[sudden thorn]

One time on stolen valour I went to wall bang a door as I heard a suspect behind it but I saw to my horror a negative point tally for killing a civilian and I opened the door to find two corpses on the floor

[grizzled belfry]

I'm taking the rotary flash launcher

Fuck this, we cheesing narcos

Oh when I come back to narcos the los locos are getting massacred

[grizzled comet]

Lowkey after s ranking each level it’s mandated to go in with a 12 gauge and blast everyone to smithereens

[grizzled belfry]

Tbh I haven't done this anywhere near as much as I should've

Except with Valley of the Dolls. The number of dead civilians was massive.

[raven estuary]

Is there a reason I don't have all of the clothing items unlocked in multiplayer specifically despite completing all of the achievements in the game (up to Boiling Point)?

[grizzled comet]

Im saving it for last, after s ranking every base map on hard mode im going to try and get the nice watch for beating the Ironman mode challenge (forgot the actual name of the watch)

[raven estuary]

Do I need to do Ironman Mode again for example in multiplayer or something?

[grizzled comet]

Idk tbh, if you have all achievements that means you unlocked every clothing accessory too since that itself is an achievement (at least for console)

I heard of a bug that basically strips you naked of any clothing tho that could be it

[raven estuary]

I remember having everything at some point, then all of a sudden after an update, I couldn't wear the watch you get as a reward for completing Ironman Mode anymore so I basically quit the game then for a while lol

[grizzled comet]

That sucks wth, contact support or something

[raven estuary]

Doubt they can do anything but I'll try

[sudden thorn]

To be honest that watch is quite ugly anyway, doesn’t fit with anything

[grizzled belfry]

I have a newfound loyalty to the flash launcher

Just helped me sweep the hell out of Narcos

[raven estuary]

Honestly, true, it was more the fact that it got taken away from me. The deeper confusion was that it didn't recognize that I completed all of the missions. Like what do you mean I didn't even complete the main missions?

[sudden thorn]

Fair enough

[grizzled belfry]

Wait, do the suspects execute hostages on Hunger Strike now?

They never did that before, did they?

[sudden thorn]

Yeah they do it really fast too, can’t tell if it’s a bug or not

[grizzled belfry]

I looked it up and I think it is a bug

Apparently they fucked up the suspect stress levels, so they spike really quickly for no reason

And if they hit a certain threshold they will just start shooting hostages

Apparently high enough stress universally triggers executions across all levels

They just jacked it up on hunger strike, probably by accident

[sudden thorn]

I had to run faster then I did on elephant to save everyone on hunger strike

[sudden thorn]

I also didn’t know that they can do that on any level

[grizzled belfry]

Will I have to get light armour on?

[sudden thorn]

I believe that any suspect can also kill themself if they have too low moral if im correct

[grizzled belfry]

Apparently if they get like, way too stressed they just shoot civvies

It just doesn't happen very often

[sudden thorn]

Spawn at back entrance, send team to go to kitchen, rush upstairs, clear upstairs then rush downstairs to clear main diner area, use rotating flash launcher

[grizzled belfry]

Personally idk what actually triggers stress so I don't know how you could test/induce this naturally in another level

[grizzled belfry]

Thanks for the info

[sudden thorn]

I believe gunshots can make it go up, suppressed ones make it go up less, don’t know what else does

I think firing at them does increase it

Don’t know about anything else

[raven estuary]

I love when the suspects randomly decide to shoot the gas canisters and basically end themselves while doing an S run.

[grizzled belfry]

What do you think would happen if you made a suspect with a knife too stressed?

Would they just run around shanking civilians?

Ready Or Not: South London

[sudden thorn]

True

I remember seeing the animation for a suspect with a rifle killing themself and I remember finding it quite unsettling how they settle it to be in their mouth

[forest fiber]

new player here
how do I play offline with only 2 bots? (instead of 4)
is it possible? or I need to download a spesific mod?

[sudden thorn]

You can’t unless your on pc then you could probably download a mod with that

[raven estuary]

As a workaround, you can scroll between teams when giving them commands and having the red or blue team stay back at spawn

[regal tundra]

Yeah you could just command Blue team

[wanton bloom]

Yall prefer flashbangs or 9 bangs?

[timid hollow]

flashbangs all the way

9 bangs have a ridiculously low radius

[forest fiber]

sorry I forgot to say that I'm on PC
alright so I need to download mod to remove the 2 others bots

[wanton bloom]

They don’t seem to do much even when they do hit

[forest fiber]

@raven estuary @regal tundra didn't know about that command exists
will try the next time start the game
thanks!

[sudden thorn]

Alr, good luck playing with only 2 other officers

[sudden thorn]

That actually works too though like they said, just have one team stand somewhere and direct the other team only

[regal tundra]

Just scroll mouse wheel to change team elements between Red and Blue. Gold is commanding all 4

[vivid widget]

flashbangs if you want radius, 9 bangs for morale damage

[timid hollow]

they should stun for at least as long as someone's in it's radius which i believe is 3m-5m, probably on the lower side, and also continuously damage at the same rate that bleeding takes away health

[raven estuary]

I'm a bit masochistic in that regard but I completed all missions on S by myself on standard difficulty, currently working on the final mission on Boiling Point (I swear I'm employed)

[sudden thorn]

Honestly the last mission I did in the game was three letter triad I had to do that after ANA it’s harder imo

[raven estuary]

Oh, damn. Yeah, playing the map a few times, ANA is definitely proving to be quite the challenge...

[slim grove]

Does anyone have an idea of when a patch will come put for the audio glitches on playstation?

[raven estuary]

I'm physically and emotionally preparing for that final achievement

[sudden thorn]

I find the layout of 3 letter to be way more hard to navigate then ANA

[sudden thorn]

Hopefully soon, best thing you can do right now is reinstall the game after deleting it as it does sort of make the bug less common

For me atleast it helped a bit but it still happens quite a lot

[raven estuary]

Oh, I played that map so much that I probably still remember it in and out

[sudden thorn]

Actually no don’t delete the game it still happens regularly

[slim grove]

Alright so don't uninstall?

[sudden thorn]

Yeah probably don’t as it doesnt fix much anyway, best thing to do is wait for a bug fix

It did initially but it just gets to a point where it’s just as bad anyway happening quite a lot

Apparently if when it happens, you set your sfx volume to 0 and then back up to whatever you want again it fixes it momentarily but I haven’t tried that

[grizzled belfry]

That's Lawmaker S ranked

I've just done all of Home Invasion, all sorted

[slim grove]

I haven't tried to fix it. I've just waited it out. I pray it gets fixed soon because for the first time in my life it genuinely makes the game unplayable because you rely of of sound cues so much in this game. But it's fun roleplaying as the legally deaf.

[grizzled belfry]

You mean spawn in the parking lot, right?

[sudden thorn]

Yeah back entrance parking lot whatever it’s called

[grizzled belfry]

And then just have my team bumrush the front while I rush back

[stable kernel]

You can try the current believed workaround of unlinking your epic account and see if that helps.

[sudden thorn]

New mechanic where you go momentarily deaf due to being around so much gunfire

[slim grove]

Can't hurt to try

[slim grove]

New ear pro equipment

[sudden thorn]

True

I was playing carrier earlier today and I saw an enemy so I shot a flash launcher at them and they phase through the floorboards to the floor above I was quite shocked that they added a hallucinations mechanic

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[grizzled belfry]

FUCK

Hostage down, we missed one

Oh that suspect is gonna get so many flashbangs they'll wonder which continent they're in

Why tf does the suspect ai have to be this bugged

[slim grove]

Judge clearly lied about being ready because he forgot his meds

[waxen tartan]

Flashbangs on hard are useless so don’t even bother using them just a tip if anyone starts playing on hard

[cedar mulch]

Los Locos didn’t suffer any significant losses, they were simply taking revenge on the undercover agent for the disruption to their car dealership and port operations.

[grizzled belfry]

FOR FUCK'S SAKES

WHY IS HUNGER STRIKE BULLSHITTING ME

WHY ARE THEY FUCKING EVERYWHERE AND WHY ISN'T MY SWAT TEAM GETTING THE FUCKS

HOW HARD IS IT TO BANG UP A ROOM

Finally done

[slim fern]

"Move out of the way sir"

[grizzled belfry]

That mission's bugged AI is extremely annoying.

[cedar mulch]

Because they roam about and kill hostages

[slim grove]

Hunger strike is hard

Not as bad as solo greased palms, which is what I'm doing.

[solemn patio]

Why are sinuous trail suspects so aggressive

We show up in a clearly marked vehicle, not even any confusion possible

[grizzled belfry]

Tbh they need to fix that

[cedar mulch]

VOID deliberately made Los Locos even stronger, as they felt the fast-food restaurant level had been too easy before

[grizzled belfry]

It doesn't really make sense for them to be shooting hostages the way they do

There is pretty much only one way to S rank the level and it's not even consistent

[unkempt granite]

are you on mp or commander?

[grizzled belfry]

Commander

[solemn patio]

I KNOWW

[grizzled belfry]

Don't worry, I already did it, managed to S rank it.

[solemn patio]

los locos in general feel like they have a switchblade stuck up their ass with the blade out

[grizzled belfry]

My second run was lucky so I managed to tear it down nice and quick

[unkempt granite]

niceee

[grizzled belfry]

Narcos was honestly worse

[timid hollow]

The fictional world that Ready or Not takes place in has many similarities with our own, but it is not exactly the same 🙂

[grizzled belfry]

That map is basically urban Vietnam

[cedar mulch]

These blokes are among the most common and most annoying enemies. https://ready-or-not.fandom.com/wiki/Los_Locos_del_Pacificos

These blokes turn up on no fewer than seven maps

[solemn patio]

Yea

[cedar mulch]

[solemn patio]

Its fun to go full auto on em

[grizzled belfry]

The drives they're protecting link Mindjot to a ring of individuals not unlike Epstein

To put a fine point on it, Mindjot are in the files

[unkempt granite]

yell first and never shoot them first unless they raise their gun

[solemn patio]

Do they seriously care about other people that much, or are the security themselves likely incriminated by the drives?

[grizzled belfry]

They're incriminated because they protected the info

[grizzled belfry]

Alternately, you don't get use of force penalties if you just never yell

Take the MP5 silenced version and just give them the commando time treatment

[unkempt granite]

you don't? from what i remember you do

[grizzled belfry]

Nah IIRC the use of force penalties happen after you yell

[solemn patio]

They seriously think shooting armed gunmen will change that?

[grizzled belfry]

I've shot suspects looking the other way before

[cedar mulch]

At the Glukovovskie Mafia and Los Locos car dealerships, they behave quite normally, whereas in all the other levels—with the exception of the Rust Belt—things are completely mad.😂

[grizzled belfry]

Shit

I swear there was no trap on that door and it just blew me to pieces

[unkempt granite]

i've had times where if i yell at someone from behind they instantly surrender, is that because of the two negotiators or what?

[grizzled belfry]

Query: Why do the 213 rollers have access to AP grenades?

I feel like that doesn't make much sense

[unkempt granite]

they have access to war weapons from what i remember

[solemn patio]

Maybe drug withdrawal? Guys at the dealership getting their fix and the rest aint

[grizzled belfry]

...Why?

[solemn patio]

Because they wanted to, thats the reason

[unkempt granite]

illegally purchased firearms

[cedar mulch]

I think it’s just a business issue,Los Locos are far more level-headed than we imagine. I don’t think they’re all drug addicts,the car dealership is just a front for a legitimate business.

[grizzled belfry]

For goodness sakes

[solemn patio]

They probably just arent on high alert then

[slim fern]

they're smoking the early access suspect pack

[solemn patio]

Imagine being able to incap with taser

Like just ragdoll em and they get up when the taser stops

[cedar mulch]

Their behaviour in Narcos is what really shows their vindictiveness, brutality and aggressiveness. In other levels, their dialogue is mostly just simple insults directed at the SWAT team.

[grizzled belfry]

No way, the taser actually working in a logical way

Too much to ask.

[solemn patio]

Imagine if we got a sprint button

I wanna sprint across the map and get magdumped by a guy with a shotgunn

[slim fern]

There was a belly flop feature with animations from the taser, but it was cut from the game...

[solemn patio]

I think that mindjot security having smgs is a little weird

[grizzled belfry]

Idk I kinda like that the game is harshly paced

Makes S rank on some levels rough, but that makes it interesting

[cedar mulch]

I reckon Void will bring back a lot of features from the very earliest versions. For example, the versions from 2019 to 2020.

[grizzled belfry]

I think the gun laws in Los Suenos are probably much less strict than IRL California

[solemn patio]

Man

[grizzled belfry]

Like that one veteran in TYCA that shoots at the store robbers

[solemn patio]

I just want to be able to chase the violent suspect before he nabs a hostage

[grizzled belfry]

If he was carrying a gun around it stands to reason it may have just been legal

[grizzled belfry]

Use the MP7 in conjunction with light armour

[slim fern]

Lmao I recall an old PvP arrest animation where the character parries the suspect's left hook then arrests him

[solemn patio]

Give us a tackle button maybe? I wanna be able to full sprint and football tackle brixley down a staircase

[grizzled belfry]

You'll be running quick

[solemn patio]

Pvp would be cool as fuck

[grizzled belfry]

People would just tackle Amos Voll so they could execute him dramatically

Come to think of it...

Yknow what I want?

[slim fern]

early access had it but it didn't work out

[grizzled belfry]

Bayonets.

Call me an old fashioned brit but I'd like the ability to bayonet charge Amos Voll

Or bayonet execute Amos Voll. Or do pretty much anything bayonet related with Amos Voll

[cedar mulch]

VOID mentioned in 2023 that PvP would definitely be making a comeback. However, the new PvP may be vastly different from what we’ve seen before.

[grizzled belfry]

Tbh I don't really mind if PVP comes back

I probably won't ever do it, I like dealing with suspect AI

[solemn patio]

Imagine a knife as a tactical

and a hand to hand combat system? Thatd rock

Imagine if they gave us dolphin diving and slide cancelling from cod /j

[cedar mulch]

I don’t know why VOID decided to remove sprinting and close-quarters combat. They’ve turned SWAT into a bunch of invalids.😂

Some people then argue that this is a tactical issue

[sudden thorn]

The only time you are in situations where you’d need either of those is your fault that you let yourself become this vulnerable

Although the melee I can understand with those knife fucks in twisted nerve sprinting around corners

[cedar mulch]

By any measure, sprinting is essential, particularly on the Community College map. And when enemies are firing at you at close range, failing to sprint is a death sentence in itself.

[solemn patio]

I have to use a long ass beanbag shotty to s rank the narrow ass rooms in sinuous trail

[cedar mulch]

Some people, however, believe that fast-paced gameplay means the game has turned into Call of Duty, but that’s simply not how it works in reality.

[grizzled belfry]

Hand to hand combat might be interesting

[solemn patio]

Thats how every argument turns out when i propose stuff like that are you a mindreader

[grizzled belfry]

I do think that the lack of sprinting kind of forces a slower pacing though, which is quite necessary

[sudden thorn]

Then you shoot at the enemies firing at you

[grizzled belfry]

I think the reason sprinting isn't a thing is so that you don't have a quick easy get out of jail free card

[wanton bloom]

Getting a bug where whenever I press Y to switch weapons or something it brings up my keyboard

[grizzled belfry]

If you get caught out by gunfire in the open, you're either dead or you're gonna be badly wounded

[wanton bloom]

Xbox

[sudden thorn]

thats what I was thinking, if you could just run into a room without checking for hostiles and sprinting out right as they start firing at you, there’d be no need to check rooms before entering

[grizzled belfry]

The lack of a convenient "run away and be completely fine" option pretty much forces slower, grounded gameplay

[waxen tartan]

Tip of the day don’t play with randoms in public lobby they play like it’s gta😂💀

[grizzled belfry]

How bad?

[cedar mulch]

VOID need it easy to introduce a weight system and add stamina limits to sprints

[sudden thorn]

I like to put on lethal obsession or stolen valour and see how many randoms die to the bombs to see if they’re good or not

Usually my hopes are too high and they arent

[solemn patio]

I want for our guy to transition to above the shoulder or in the armpit when his barrels blocked lowkey

[waxen tartan]

They don’t listen to they run off in rooms don’t check corners they think this is cod 😂

[slim fern]

Its not quite sprinting, but having your gun in a low ready position makes you move a little bit faster

[grizzled belfry]

Figuring out which officer traits are good is already a pain, the introduction of weight classes would make this infinitely worse.

[slim fern]

depending on the armor too

[waxen tartan]

LMAO I MIGHT DO THAT

[sudden thorn]

They rush through doors too, especially on the maps with traps

[waxen tartan]

and just stand at spawn and watch them die instantly

[cedar mulch]

VOID makes things far too easy when it comes to certain aspects. They could set sprinting to impose severe stamina limits, and include a gear weight system that slows down movement speed.

[grizzled belfry]

There are a lot of games where sprinting is really useful

[sudden thorn]

Every single time 15 seconds into a lethal obsession I hear atleast 1 and maybe 2 bombs go off

[grizzled belfry]

I think it would make RoN worse though

[solemn patio]

Make the heavyweights just absolutely annihilate suspects up close

[waxen tartan]

Lmaooo

[grizzled belfry]

Just because the entire point of RoN is that you have to be slow and methodical

[waxen tartan]

I always say “what’s the rush u got somewhere to be ?”😂

[grizzled belfry]

RoN punishes people who rush, or break their concentration

[waxen tartan]

And randoms do the opposite 😂

[grizzled belfry]

The entire point of RoN's pacing is that slow is smooth and smooth is fast

The best moments in RoN are when, in spite of that slow speed, you manage to make a smooth incursion work

[waxen tartan]

I think I almost got the hang of it

[cedar mulch]

This is completely irrelevant in this active shooter scenario

[grizzled belfry]

Introducing sprinting would screw the pacing of RoN significantly

[waxen tartan]

I did elephant in like 7 minutes and s ranked it

[lost inlet]

Tbf, game never teaches them about the existence of trap nor how to disarm them.

[sudden thorn]

But you can still sprint and get out of a situation that would heavily harm you just because you sped out the room, this still ruins the gameplay flow

[grizzled belfry]

It's relevant to the way the scenario is played

[sudden thorn]

I’d assume that people would atleast play up to the 6th level on singleplayer before trying multiplayer

[lost inlet]

[grizzled belfry]

The point behind Elephant is that you have to be smooth, not hasty

[waxen tartan]

3rd person option would be nice

[cedar mulch]

They may only allow you to sprint on certain maps, such as the Active Shooter map and the Port map

[sudden thorn]

In every active shooter scenario(except hunger strike) the game gives you ample enough time to stop the shooters

[slim fern]

I mean they do pay attention to the announcer at the start of the level, right??? RIGHT???

[lost inlet]

They’ll manages to shatter your expectations and dipped lower.

[grizzled belfry]

Elephant only works if you manage an extremely smooth incursion

[solemn patio]

It wouldnt do too much

[grizzled belfry]

If you can just use a quick burst of movement to bugger out of harm's way, suddenly managing your positioning becomes significantly less important

[cedar mulch]

I don’t think the Amusement Park has enough time; they have the highest number of players on the Active Shooter map, so they’ll definitely need to make a dash for it.

[lost inlet]

Even if they did, they wouldn’t know how to disarm the traps nor where to look for one.

[grizzled belfry]

You don't have to be constantly considering how each move impacts the next and how you can most viably and efficiently clear the map in good time.

[sudden thorn]

Clear the outside first it doesnt take that long

No civillians spawn inside so you can skip that whole part of the map for now

[grizzled belfry]

If you can just use a quick burst of movement, it's suddenly way easier to succeed on maps which are tight on time

And your positioning becomes much less important.

Sprint on RoN sounds good in theory but it would mess with the game's balancing massively

And it would devalue careful positioning and constant care before entering rooms

[slim fern]

what if they changed it to warzone slidecancelling movement grease god

[grizzled belfry]

Tactics like slicing the pie, constant active listening, checking hard corners

None of it would be remotely as valuable

Room entry would be way easier than it should be

[sly grail]

can't we sprint with space?

[grizzled belfry]

Honestly I don't use the low ready feature

[sly grail]

like you move considerably faster when your weapon is in low ready

[grizzled belfry]

But no that's just a minor speed increase, they're talking about full on sprinting

[sly grail]

difficult in SWAT gear, but it'd be cool if No Armor could sprint

[lost inlet]

Rush faster, die faster.

[sly grail]

the need for speed will leave you vulnerable

[sudden thorn]

Honestly yeah I could be fine with no armour being able to sprint given that they have no armour and they’d need that boost to get out of fire, would also give no armour a reason to be used

[lost inlet]

How good sprint will be are mostly up to the level design. Big and empty space are perfect for sprint, close and tight has less chances for it to shine.

[sly grail]

that too, you kinda need a running start before you can fully sprint

but sprinting down the streamer's hall and into his room before his security can even realize you got in sounds pretty funny

[slim grove]

Literally Payday 2 Dodge build

[waxen tartan]

lol

[lost inlet]

I’ve played project apex (essentially roblox ron) and they have sprint. I find myself rarely using it, only at the beginning at the level, a tiny bit in the middle of it then using it to get to extraction.

[slim grove]

Glad someone found it funny

[waxen tartan]

Cuz I put in a lot of hours into that game and I had a build like that😂

[lost inlet]

Most of time, i’s just use low ready cause footstep noise is a thing and enemies’s stress is also a thing.

[coral tapir]

Ah yeah I remember playing it only for minutes right before it went off again because it was only temporarily opened for whatever testing it had, back in previous(? I forgot) year

[lost inlet]

We’re going back to 2016 rogue dodge heavy crossbow meta build with this one. 🗣️

[timid hollow]

screenshot this void is gonna make a heist game

[lost inlet]

It’s back up again.

[coral tapir]

I remember seeing a vid where a heavy ass medieval crossbow dealt more damage than a 12.7x99

[lost inlet]

Has only 2 maps to play.

[sly grail]

multiplayer between the heist game and RON

[slim grove]

Dude I fw dodge crit build where you don't take damage, op

[timid hollow]

they should actually just continue making this game because they're doing an awesome job

[coral tapir]

Anyways what do you think of the new weapon DLC?

Personally, the laser watch carried the whole kit, good if you don't want to play concussion grenades I guess? Other than that and the dart shooter with a revival dart, the rest is completely disappointing imo.

Especially the SMG, basically a Cavity 9mm albeit severely butchered.

[slim grove]

Haven't checked it out yet

Idk us playstation players get massacred on cool things in payday.

[coral tapir]

Damn.

[slim grove]

I'm gonna probably check it out later once I'm done commiting felonies in this game

[lost inlet]

Hot take. Nerf JHP .300blk armor pen down to lvl2 only.

[tacit gull]

later

[unkempt granite]

would it be overkill if the pepperballs were able to make the enemies start coughing if it's a headshot

[tacit gull]

no

it would be the antithesis to the beanbag

which would make sense compared to the dumb shit we have now

[unkempt granite]

i lwk just wanna see beanbag and pepperbal shine more compared to the flash launcher

the beanbags issue is inconsistency and range, while the pepperball is pepperball

[tacit gull]

It would make sense especially since pepperballs dont full stun someone like the beanbag does

[vagrant marsh]

Pepperball is less effective than throwing dirt in someone's eyes

[tacit gull]

that's the pepperspray

atleast the pepperball might stun someone

[vagrant marsh]

I've unironically had more success with the pepper spray

[hearty summit]

I'm watching a guy clear ANA with a Taser and he has no helmet, no armor, no lethal....It almost like tasering after flash is a 100% surrender and probably keeps the suspects stress from spiking.

[unkempt granite]

it is

the only issue is that it's close range

[tacit gull]

It doesn't, taser gives as much stress as a gunshot now

using less lethals isnt affected by stress i think

[unkempt granite]

that's so dumb 💔

[tacit gull]

taser meant you could get people to surrender longer and void didnt like that

[unkempt granite]

atleast you can play batmanish with gas grenades

since they don't see you if you hide behing it

also why do ppl say the ai is bugged on ana? it seems fine to me

[ancient wedge]

alright why wont this guy on greased palms do anything, wont surrender, wont even shoot at us just sit there aiming an uzi at us saying "los locos beesh"

[floral viper]

Gas grenades work on MLO suspects? I’ve tried it before and haven’t had much luck with CS. (I would think it’s probably less effective on some of them in particular since they have gas masks.)

[unkempt granite]

gas doesn't work on them at all, but they wont see you through it

[ancient wedge]

flashbangs, pepperballs, sitting there beating his ass he just wont do anything at all

[unkempt granite]

you can shoot him with a lethal to the chest, it'll still count as arresting

[floral viper]

I actually never knew that, could be useful on the last floor when trying to get more ammo

[unkempt granite]

yeah beanbags and flashes still work tho

i just did all achievements EXCEPT programmed psychosis

[near ledge]

I main gas and pepper only, any tips to why I keep dying everytime on any map on hard mode? I turtle away from gun fire in a corner and let my team-mates do the work but I somehow always get friendly fired by suspects? A bit weird.

[unkempt granite]

what do you mean friendly fired?

[lost inlet]

gas are very bad on hard, switch to flashbang or stinger.

[near ledge]

no

[lost inlet]

k.

[near ledge]

I main gas and pepper

[floral viper]

Even without programmed psychosis that’s a major accomplishment
Nice job

[stiff dagger]

Flash and Blast aka the beanbag

[near ledge]

no
I main gas and pepper

[stiff dagger]

I prefer beanbag but fair enough

[floral viper]

I mean, I agree that flashes and bangs are probably more effective especially against more tough and agitated suspects. But if you’re set on sticking with gas I would recommend using one or two officers with the pacifier perk if you aren’t doing so already. With gas it reroll’s surrender chances like every half a second.

[haughty oriole]

Hello I'm on Playstation 5, is anyone else encountering audio bugging out?

It literally doesn't work for a good minute or 2 often. Wondering if it's gonna get fixed

[raven schooner]

everybody in pubs wants to run ANA but not a single person knows about the jammer

[fallen osprey]

WOOO i finished dark waters finalyl only took like 10 tries on 3 letter triad

now i can do boiling point :D

[floral viper]

You mean knows to turn in on after clearing the upstairs before courtroom or just in general

[raven schooner]

everyone just pushes the final room and fails the mission, nobody ever even turns it on

[floral viper]

That’s rough, I’d think after this long everyone would know by now but ig not

[stiff light]

are the DEVS aware of the 2 remaining unobtainable glitched trophies on Boiling Point?

im happy that they fixed sea legs and my eyes it burns, but yeah those 2 are still fked (nosce te ipsum and the world intractable one)

[blazing shoal]

weird, i got eye of providence easily before the small update

are you on console? i guess tracking is different on there

[gaunt siren]

guys how do i use mod on my ron, i already download it in nexus mod

[sand hull]

Ready or Nit

[quasi coral]

I'm done for

[sand hull]

not if i have anything to say about it

[solemn widget]

If i fire everyone do i just have a true solo experience
Cuz ima be honest commander mode aint it for me

[sand hull]

my solution is to just start a friends only lobby, or tell them to hold at spawn

[solemn widget]

Fair
I would start a friends only lobby but my internets been down the whole day

[quasi coral]

[grizzled belfry]

No the game just gives you temp officers

[sand abyss]

Do i just straight kill MLO and any suspects that are aggresive stance (except protestors) on sight?

[sand hull]

if you wish, when i ran it with my boys we just dropped anyone who didn’t drop their guns as soon as we saw them

[sand abyss]

I mean will MLO (Helmet and mask guys) always engage you so it's better to just shoot them dead?

[sand hull]

they can and do surrender, but typically they just engage. I’ve only had them surrender once or twice when using lethal

[sand abyss]

I mean every time I did compliance yell they just shot first, so i know they can but I generally see the do that if they get stunned

[sand hull]

i say just drop em on sight

[wide scaffold]

I will genuinely give all the money and the assets i have to void if they show me a single person who can tank 0.50 in the chest and continue shooting from AN ASSAULT RIFLE with perfect accuracy

[woeful dove]

I know we have semi auto shotguns but I want a spas 12.

[wide scaffold]

I can't imagine SWAT using a fucking spas 12

[woeful dove]

Yet we have a Scar H?

"oh but it was featured in ___"

[wide scaffold]

Scar H is uncommon but still used

Like i just don'r see the reason why use spas 12

SWAT use what is the most efficient and it's remington or 870 or benelli m4

If they need shotguns

[woeful dove]

No moss?

[wide scaffold]

870 and m4 are the most common ones i believe

[woeful dove]

Anyone using magfed semi auto shotguns in america?

[wide scaffold]

Mfs in USA use anything that shoots bullets 😭

[fleet canyon]

Bro I just kill anyone who move tbh but I go full auto on the mfing civs that pull out a phone but I think it's a fucking gun

[wide scaffold]

Valid

[hallow flower]

civs so smart that they proceed to pull out their phone from behind, IN FRONT OF SWAT. Genius

potato survival instinct

[fleet canyon]

Any get fucking full autoed and then proceed to get me unauthorised use of deadly force

[wide scaffold]

3 officers down, 1 in crisis, team lead dead. Had a blast this mission 🥹

[wide scaffold]

"Pulling out my ID infront of police officer as fast as i can so they don't waste time"

[hallow flower]

"Dumb ways to dieee.... so many dumb ways to diee...."

[calm carbon]

One time I was carrying a supernova
Got so jumpscared by it
I took his hand clean off

[hallow flower]

fast react player, goes pew pew, slow react player... uhhhhh.... owh its a phone

[woeful dove]

Dumbfuckingplayer: dies to phone

[wide scaffold]

First time in my life thousands of hours in fps games don't come in handy

[wide scaffold]

People should use supernova more

[hallow flower]

people should use spray pepper more

[wide scaffold]

No??

[hallow flower]

thats the most op gun

[wide scaffold]

People should use pepper spray less

[hallow flower]

more like i use it on my friend HAAHHAHA

[wide scaffold]

All my friends are broke so they can't afford RON

[hallow flower]

at least you have friend

[wide scaffold]

True

[fleet canyon]

I took a head off

[hallow flower]

while me "friend" is just random public lobby ....

[fleet canyon]

Yep

With the IQ off a rock

[hallow flower]

dont you dare insult rock like that

[fleet canyon]

I mean rock is quite smart but his sibling is another story

[fleet canyon]

Thanks bro

[hallow flower]

did you just change your name???? HAHAHAHA

[fleet canyon]

Yea

Rock haha

Hehehe rock smart 🤓

[potent harbor]

🤔

[wide scaffold]

b1301 genuinely the best gun in the game

[rocky plover]

Shotguns do leave that impression

But then again m32a1 exists

[wide scaffold]

Does m32a1 one shot hardmode suspects

Do not think so

[blazing raft]

Almost 1 month and the Rayman bug is still unpatched

Yesterday there was an update I was hoping they patched it

[wide scaffold]

What the genuine hell is rayman bug vro 😭

[blazing raft]

If u use new clothes they are invisible so u are just floating shoes and arms

So basically Rayman, came up with the name 3 second ago

[wide scaffold]

Never had this bug ever before

[blazing raft]

Lowk its not even a game breaking bug but ruins everything its just boring and annoying

[blazing raft]

Try the new cop outfit or the new jeans, trust i will see it

I swear if its just me having this bug...

[wide scaffold]

Damn

[blazing raft]

Are u from console? Cause i am

[wide scaffold]

It all went downhill since then console update didn't it

[blazing raft]

Might be an only Console thing

[wide scaffold]

Oh yeah i am pc

[blazing raft]

I legit finished the new missions and stopped playing cause the bug is boring

[wide scaffold]

Try not using the newr clothes vro 😭

[blazing raft]

Bro I legit just play to chill and style etc

[sand abyss]

any tips for beat cop achievement?

[wide scaffold]

You can't even see anything except the shirt and gloves

[blazing raft]

If u make clothes invisible u remove 60% of my gameplay

[blazing raft]

What do u mean, u can😭

[wide scaffold]

What else vro? Boots?

[blazing raft]

On what fov do u even play?

[wide scaffold]

Max fov for life

[blazing raft]

Then u should see everything cause I play on 90 or sum and I can see perfectly the whole character

[lilac mural]

For me the cosmetic glitches are the worst because they break immersion and boy there are lots of them 🥲

[wide scaffold]

Fuh is console even about 😭😭

[blazing raft]

Anyways I'm thinking about uninstalling the game and reinstalling it

[wide scaffold]

RON console is not real

[blazing raft]

Maybe its temporary idk

[blazing raft]

Real plus we got new stuff since a lot of time and can't even enjoy it

[wide scaffold]

When are we going to have the no ROE difficulty

[rocky plover]

Pretty much yes without even needing perfect aim 🫪

Just gotta either kill them while they surrendered/stunned or arrest them then

[wide scaffold]

So no

[lilac mural]

And the update actually fucked some other cosmetics that were working before one long sleeve shirt is also invisible, the lspd combat shirt rolled sleeve green version is hanging like a sleeve of wizard in first person and the clipping of clothing when switching between different characters in multi drives me nuts.

[sleek rune]

bro has evil plans

[wide scaffold]

Leviathan is leaving me no choice

I've HAD IT

[sleek rune]

it took me like 50 mins to complete it first time 😭

that map feels like a huge labyrinth

[wide scaffold]

Civilians are indistinguishable from suspects

That's what makes me MAD

Also are we going to remove the fuckass 10 second slowdown there's 2.5 people in the chat it's not helping

[sleek rune]

at least it has a cool vibe

the whole dlc has a cool vibe, with the helicopters and shit

[wide scaffold]

And i want to put a hand through my monitor

That's a vibe

[glass heart]

just check hands and if you see black outlines kill that guy

taking a little time to pid doesnt affect your combat effectiveness

[wide scaffold]

Not the best choice of words, claymore, not the best

[glass heart]

ok correction: matte black sillhouettes

[blazing raft]

Ngl a custom match mode would be cool

[wide scaffold]

See that's how you do it

[glass heart]

you can do that if you dont give a shit about score (and you dont have swat ai present)

going in with buddies and shooting everything that moves wrong is always an option

[wide scaffold]

Any tips if the buddies are broke

[blazing raft]

With settings like:
"All suspects are hostile"
"No ROE"
"All suspects have heavy armor and weapons"
"All suspects have melee weapons"
Etc

[glass heart]

so just a QMM

[blazing raft]

Basically more modifications, would be cool imo

[blazing raft]

Uh?

[glass heart]

quick mission maker

[somber python]

.

[glass heart]

thats how this feature is called in swat 4, you can customize suspect types, suspect skill, suspect numbers, etc

you can even make all the suspects unarmed

[blazing raft]

Ohh, yeah basically a different mode where u don't get trophies or rewards but u can have more fun and customize every aspect of the match

This imo would improve insanely the lifetime of the game

[glass heart]

sdk would also help a lot

[blazing raft]

Because it would take more before u get bored

[wide scaffold]

Boy do i love having one arm injury and then getting 360 sniped by a random oil rig worker who never seen something more dangerous that a knife in their life before this moment

[wide scaffold]

Am i the only one noticing a strange resemblance between martinez's crew logo and the one sprayed across the leviathan mission

Finally cleared the fucking leviathan oh my lord

Just b 😭

[lofty kernel]

They are protesters not workers

[wide scaffold]

Thanks for correcting but doesn't make much of a difference

[sour plank]

Im currently playing RoN on hard mode with ironmode on and i have to s rank i turned off in game sounds and only kept on subtitles and i stitched them to Russain. I have no snake cam, no body armor or headgear . I cant ware a gas mask or flash protection. I cant use eny. equipment. Tazors only. Eny ideas to make it worse ?

[faint arrow]

no flash protection

wait nvm

[sour plank]

Ye ,im in so much suffering

[faint arrow]

no equipment

wedges included

[sour plank]

Oky noted tho ill have to keep tazors

[faint arrow]

taser is fine

[sour plank]

I can only uses tasers btw

[faint arrow]

then this will be fun 😂

[sour plank]

This is round 2 of this challenge actually ive done it before

[lost inlet]

Use the peppberball pistol.

[faint arrow]

taser only

[sour plank]

Im currently playing RoN on hard mode with ironmode on and i have to s rank i turned off in game sounds and only kept on subtitles and i stitched them to Russain. I have no snake cam, no body armor or headgear . I cant ware a gas mask or flash protection. I cant use eny. equipment. Tazors but only there bashs .pepper ball pistol with 1 mag only . Eny ideas to make it worse ?

[sour plank]

I only get 1 mag of it lol

[faint arrow]

how did the first match go

[sour plank]

8 months 124 tries

[lost inlet]

Taser bash only.

[sour plank]

Okay

[faint arrow]

no sprinting

missing any shot = restart whole mission

[reef path]

No attachments on the weapon

[sour plank]

Thats the only mod i got bro that changes game play btw

[lost inlet]

Taser had no attachment options.

[sour plank]

Im currently playing RoN on hard mode with ironmode on and i have to s rank i turned off in game sounds and only kept on subtitles and i stitched them to Russain. I have no snake cam, no body armor or headgear . I cant ware a gas mask or flash protection. I cant use eny. equipment. Tazors but only there bashs .pepper ball pistol with 1 mag only . A missed shot = let ne die and restarting from the start of the campaign. No attachments. Eny ideas to make it worse ?

Yall have 3 more debufs

[reef path]

I would say no subtitles too but then no sound would make it impossible

[tranquil arch]

With 4 AI teammates constantly trying to kill you

[lost inlet]

Bash only with pepperball pistol, if you wanna shoot then switch to taser.

[tranquil arch]

Basically with the kill me command active

[sour plank]

That would be impossible in S rank unfortunately

[tranquil arch]

There is a mod to enable that command from the start

[reef path]

You would be using your teammates to help you or you are gonna solo it all?

[tranquil arch]

Unfortunately it's not possible to solo in Ironman

[sour plank]

Mostly solo but i do use them but they fallow the same restrictions

[sour plank]

Just tell your guys to stay

[tranquil arch]

Ok dude. I know. With the difficult AI mod

[reef path]

I guess teammates should be allow so our guy had a fighting chance (Judge is built different but he ain't be able to tank this challenge alone)

[sour plank]

Also im going for hermit in this challenge

[sour plank]

I added that one last month it sucks

In a good way

[tranquil arch]

Oh I know. Enable time limited missions

And you will need to speedrun in 5 or 10 mins

[sour plank]

I tryed that one i genuinely couldn’t do most missions

[sour plank]

BUT WHY NOT

Im currently playing RoN on hard mode with ironmode on and i have to s rank i turned off in game sounds and only kept on subtitles and i stitched them to Russain. I have no snake cam, no body armor or headgear . I cant ware a gas mask or flash protection. I cant use eny. equipment. Tazors but only there bashs .pepper ball pistol with 1 mag only . A missed shot = let ne die and restarting from the start of the campaign. No attachments. Time limited missions 15-5 minutes to complete a mission. At the end if the game i have to beat my swat team and i have to 1v1 someone with no hud 18 times . Eny ideas to make it worse ?

2 remain

[tranquil arch]

How about a final boss? After you did get the S-rank in the Ironman with all those debuffs, you need to win against another player in PvP, like maybe you start a mission and tell him to try to take you out. If you lose you must restart.

[sour plank]

After every mission i have to 1v1 someone with no hud

1 more remaining make it count

[tranquil arch]

After final mission you must win a 1v4 against your SWAT if you kill them all fast enough it's possible

[tranquil arch]

I can DM you a video of me doing it to prove it's possible

[sour plank]

Will do I probably going to do a live stream at the end of the month of me playing i hope im close to done by then

[tranquil arch]

Good luck man, you're gonna need it

[sour plank]

I just hope the devs dont add it as a achievement

[faint arrow]

The One Ironman

[tranquil arch]

I don't think they will. I already S-ranked all mission on hard on ironman without your extra debuffs, but even that doesn't have an achievement.

[sour plank]

I actually almost s ranked the game before i knew there was a totorial

[sour plank]

Its probably so players dont lose there minds

[tranquil arch]

Understandable. I was absolutely pissed when I lost a 2 months ironman save trying to do that I uninstalled the game for a week before coming back for more.

[sour plank]

The worse part is that i lost my main ps5 account and had to beat the game again

[sour plank]

I lost the plat trophy on a old account now that i came to pc i wanna experience pain again

[tranquil arch]

I call it the "Savior" challenge where you truly save Los Suenos if you beat it

[sour plank]

Make it its own free dlc so people dont have to do it for regular plat. and have it own set of challenges lol and gear so if you do it you get a 2 peice suit and a gold glock

[tranquil arch]

And you get a true ending cutscene where Judge becomes the hero of Los Suenos

[sour plank]

Hell id pay for it

[sour plank]

Judge becomes major lol

[tranquil arch]

I mean Boiling Point was one step closer

[feral loom]

Guys should i get Arma Reforger or RON

[sleek rune]

get ron dude

[tacit gull]

i'd get reforger

[wind gyro]

id get dayz

[winter pendant]

Dishonored

[hollow veldt]

anyone got a strat for my eyes, it burns seeing as its fixed now?

[timber coral]

try lowering your monitors brightness or taking a break if your eyes burn from too much gaming

[lost inlet]

Goated game.

[sour plank]

Both are great games

[feral loom]

But which one

[sour plank]

If your looking for gun play, helis, rq here and there ,get arma

Ready or Not is for whne you want to see the true horror of what officers face

[feral loom]

i know if i get RON i will get better at other shooters but ARMA is also good

[feral loom]

i do in BRM5

[sour plank]

Arma reforger is great id recommend it

Its heavy supported by modded severs and mods are not hard to install at all they basically do it themselves

[sour plank]

OPR FARGO and WCS are great severs to start out on

[feral loom]

So RON or Arma

[sour plank]

Arma, in my opinion

[sour plank]

Are you console or pc

[feral loom]

pc

[marsh lark]

RON and Arma are for two different purposes tbh

[sour plank]

True that

[sour plank]

Its hard to compare the 2 but i feel arma is a lot less frustrating and friendlier to new players . Be warned tho people can be aholes in that game

[tranquil arch]

I'd get Tarkov

[wanton bloom]

Just me or is hide and seek way easier than relapse? Struggled way more on relapse

But oh boy here I go, time to S rank greased palms

And I’m never trying that again

[dapper reef]

Just got done reading the change log for the bug fixes I guess we waited like two months for

love to see they have one guy dedicated to fixing all the bugs

[hard geyser]

did they fix the bug where you can shoot/thrown grenades in the lobby ?*

[lost inlet]

no.

[timber coral]

ive been thinking of buying ron

but im not keen on downloading 60 gigs

[lost inlet]

wait for discount.

this game does not deserve its full price.

[hard geyser]

i cant do it anymore idk

[marble flume]

I might buy the new DLC when it goes on sale again

[sour plank]

The new dlc is probably there best one ever

[timber coral]

the price isnt the problem its just that games take up so much space

also yeah i agree the game is rather expensive

[full shore]

There are frequent sales around 40% if you don't mind waiting

[fathom niche]

I feel like the protesting in los suenos is an accurate representation of people being angry at the censorship void forced on the game because of the console release

[coral tartan]

Anyone else experiencing issues with launching the game on Ps5 after the new patch

[zinc lantern]

#❗known-issues-and-fixes

[coral tartan]

Thanks!

hm its not that issue

[dire arrow]

does anyone know if m32a1 launcher or m320 launcher allowed for the heat is on achievement?

[fast blaze]

im pretty sure its allowed, i was gonna ask the same thing recently

What happened with the farm raid map?

[tacit gull]

it was remade into farm

[fast blaze]

carriers of the vine?

[tacit gull]

yes

[mortal turret]

Is the D platoon as a whole an USIA sleeper cell or just Judge? The team is very skilled and methodical like Judge

[dire arrow]

didnt risk it, beat it with 2 people in multiplayer

but it would've been easier with it if only someone's brave enough to test it

[timber coral]

hang on before i buy this game how replayable is this game

[distant rose]

just Judge i think

[tacit gull]

not very

[fast blaze]

i mean ive been replaying it a lot, you can also download modded maps if you wanna try something new. theres some in the ingame mod menu but usually just check nexus mods

[glad bloom]

replaying All Gods Burn and realizing that mfs in Los Suenos will do anything BUT find an actual job

did they throw a goddamn piano at me????

I dont CARE if the city's under siege or if there was a hurricane or whatever everyone who lives here is a BUM they're BUMS everyone's a BUM

[solid void]

True

[mortal turret]

RoN has a great replayability, every map has various outcomes and entry points, there's a lot of weapons and gear for you and your squad, and of course the mods which can improve the game in every way.

However don't buy it thinking it is a Quantic Dream or Telltale game

[solid void]

It’s like if New York and Gotham had a Los Angeles baby

[zealous minnow]

any advice on programmed psychosis?

[prisma tusk]

kill all da enemy

[balmy patio]

go through the first and 2nd page of my message history, thats the strat for it

[calm carbon]

They are still affected by emotions
Judge isn't stressed or has fear

[bright belfry]

Was wondering the same thing, ended up just rawdogging it with a buddy not enjoyable

[urban nacelle]

Is there any new dlc announced

[tacit gull]

no

[sudden thorn]

Just got wallbanged by a suspect on ANA because suspects lock on to you through walls for some reason

I could blame myself for wearing kevlar and no helmet but this is still annoying when it happens, don’t know why suspects suddenly get lock on aim when they see you

[covert hamlet]

Canonically according to the papers about Judge, they’re actually uncomfortable around him and find Judge unpredictable. They’re fully capable of showing emotions and are normal people, Judge is the weird one

[mortal turret]

He is js like me frfr, I guess it's an gameplay thing

[covert hamlet]

D-Platoon for example will openly question WTF Judge is doing when you start doing the Easter egg to open the vault in All Gods Burn

[mortal turret]

Unfortunately he is the only MLO in LSPD ircc

[covert hamlet]

I forget if it’s MLO or USIA but there is someone from one of the two that’s inside the LSPD documenting him

[mortal turret]

Yeah David Beaumont is an MLO splinter cell/sleeper agent who worked in USIA and got brainwashed becoming the most ruthless, cold, blunt, gruff, SWAT Operator known as Judge

Imo all his memories are faked including having wife and kids, it is better explained in A New America when you get the S rank

[covert hamlet]

I know who Judge is, there is a second person spying on him keeping tabs. That’s what the whole “cuff by cuff” stuff and such in ANA means, they’ve been spying on Judge orchestrating scenarios to test how he behaves to see if he’s a good fit

There’s a whole hidden room in the department to spy on him too

Someone in the LSPD is secretly USIA/MLO and is keeping tabs on him. They have a whole thing about it in papers

[mortal turret]

Oh, a lot of people are tracking Judge in some way, we just don't know who is MLO

[foggy knot]

Do we think the MLO are working for the USIA or independently? They both seem to have similar goals, with thr USIA profiting off the MLOs actions woth newer surveillance state shit

Or are they just one in the same

[supple scaffold]

I just find out that Colombia is mentioned into the game. Fucking Awesome <3

[rapid delta]

How can I judge what doors to close up or clear first when faced with an open room or hallway with multiple different doors?

[stoic thistle]

I think they and Gerard are quietly fighting the USIA.

They smoked the mayor and governor (among others) and Vale, that sounds like a purge.

[warm talon]

Take the open doors but wedge any left over. Then work back down. The hallway

[rapid delta]

What about if its an open room with some open, and some not? Where do you think I should start there?

[warm talon]

So like the Clemente hotel? I would personally start closing all the doors then mirroring all them, if I see someone I would take that room first but before you do take the room, check the rest by mirroring or peaking.

Also there are many more ways but idk your play style so I tried to go for the most tactical.

[rapid delta]

Alright I'll try to do something like that then next time, thank you

[warm talon]

Listen to audibles like footsteps, voices, even creaking floorboards. Most of time you can tell which room has some one in

[rapid delta]

Alright thank you

[warm talon]

Anytime.

[foggy knot]

Well they aren't quiet anymore since ANA. Part of me still thinks that even the MLO are still being used. Maybe the 2nd cohort hadn't broken free to take revenge, I bet they're doing exactly what the USIA wants them to do

[stoic thistle]

I think that Black Sentinel could be the 2nd cohort. Still ruthless and incapable of disobedience, but they act somewhat like normal people.

[foggy knot]

Im still a bit confused with the whole MLO thing, like they set up all these things just for judge to become one of them, seems wildly inefficient. In 2nd ending of ANA do you think that Judge "fell victim to programming" or morr "broke free"

[chilly thorn]

Not broken free more like under new management

[solemn patio]

Apparently judge went deaf cause my audio is bugging

[queen jay]

If i kill all my sqaud members and those waiting in station will the game automatically give me 4 ai or nah

[spring saddle]

for new to america, can i clear the 4th floor and then go back to the jammer? (minus the courtroom)

[gritty pine]

As long as you arrest the flow guy

[spring saddle]

thats what im saying can i juist not open the court room and go back to the jammer?

so essentially theres no way to complete it without the soft objective right?

cuz i want to clear the path to the flower guy before i activiate the hjammer and the 2 min timer

[gritty pine]

No the soft objective is part of the main objective

[gritty pine]

Yeah You can clear the way and secure the flower then start the jammer thingy

[spring saddle]

man ives tried so many times

mainly ive died alot cuz i rushed it since im more of a rusher

lol must be a pain in the ass to get S on this

If i start a new commander in my last save slot is it going to mess up any progression? there were bugs in the past i dont want to mess up any of my unlocks

[agile cargo]

I saw a guide for the "Programmed Psychosis" achievement, are you guys aware if the last updated fixed the bug that allowed doing it in group and then kicking people? Because hard mode in this map is straight up ridiculous.

[spring saddle]

this level fustrates me lol

so this is the correct steps right:

• Find Jammer

• Clear 4th floor minus courth room

• activate jammer

• Clear coutroom and disarm flowerbomb dude

[woeful dove]

shoulden't the SLR47 go under PDW? like the DM4?

[lost inlet]

It wasn’t built for close range though.

[woeful dove]

sure feels like it XD

[lost inlet]

That thing is pretty long.

[woeful dove]

no way bro, shit has a barrel the length of it's handguard

[lost inlet]

A full length stock.

[woeful dove]

dm4 is nearly the same length

[lost inlet]

The biggest trait of a PDW is short length/compact.

[woeful dove]

especially with both suppresors on

does a retractable stock make it a pdw? I feel like it does, excluding the P90

[lost inlet]

As long it’s short.

[woeful dove]

wish there was more weapon mod's 😔 I want even more pdw's

[lost inlet]

More bullpup. Chambers in 7.62x51mm if possible.

Big power with little to no recoil.

[tacit gull]

iwi tavor

that or you know a pkp

because fuck keeping any sort of consistency

[spring saddle]

i fianly completed it with a civilian death lol ilpl just take it

[lost inlet]

Would be funny if we do ended up getting another kalashnikov gun and it’s a fucking dragunov.

[woeful dove]

FAWKKK

sawed off SVD with skeleton stock and 20 round mag

[chilly thorn]

Nah modders only wanna add AK Variant number 156 or Military Guns

[spring saddle]

some over watch scnearios/missions would be dope

[woeful dove]

larp larp larp sahur

[chilly thorn]

Why is there not a SINGLE Uzi mod

[woeful dove]

who the fuck is gonna use a Uzi

[chilly thorn]

It was literally made for police and used by american swat teams

[opaque zealot]

Sooooo they updated the game I see, hope there's no bugs in the update 🥲🥲🥲

[woeful dove]

in 2020 is it still used?

[chilly thorn]

No but this game has a M14 and a 50 cal

[woeful dove]

we can keep those forever

[chilly thorn]

Yah but the realism of the weapon doesn't matter

[woeful dove]

they should add a bfg 50 😄

[chilly thorn]

see thats different cuz it doesn't fit the theming at all yknow

[woeful dove]

I really want more short rifles

[chilly thorn]

Add more smgs

[woeful dove]

oh yeah

[next lynx]

I've been trying to S rank greased palms on hard mode for days now

I took a two week break and im still struggling

Frankly it's opened a deep sadness within me

[lost inlet]

The average playerbase needed a week of constantly trying to s rank btw.

[woeful dove]

I wish when combat music would kick in faster

ready or not prior to 1.0 was peak

[regal orchid]

when does ready or not commonly go on sale?

[woeful dove]

prob with fps fest and seasonal sales

[regal orchid]

whens fps fest ;_;

so i assume there'll be a summer sale?

[tacit gull]

now it can barely escalate

[woeful dove]

my bad mods

[regal orchid]

idiot ;_;

[tacit gull]

i think zack realised that the ai doesnt work good enough for the dynamic combat tracks so he just gave up

[woeful dove]

bro said "baka"

[tacit gull]

made every track trigger based

[woeful dove]

fuck yeah

[tacit gull]

lame af

[woeful dove]

they made game lamer by 10% :(

oh and suspects still have aimbot

[tacit gull]

they made game lamer by a lot more than that

[woeful dove]

idk how they made music worse tho, I remember it playing as soon as u got into combat

I wish we could update our game back to early day's

[tacit gull]

Its genuienly the suspect ai getting fucked beyond belief on 1.0

[woeful dove]

I blame console

[tacit gull]

you can

[woeful dove]

legally

[tacit gull]

yes

steam offers access to any of the builds that were public or not that your account has access to

as long as you own the license/have access to the beta branch and know the repository ids you can download any build you want

[woeful dove]

😔 I don't

[tacit gull]

steamdb has all public builds listed

[lofty kernel]

I miss the old SOCOM games

[woeful dove]

I really feel like 1.0 is on some bs

[tacit gull]

if you go back and play adam and then play 1.0 you will notice an instant drop in quality

[woeful dove]

baked lighting included

adam update was best update

[tacit gull]

everything from mirrors to dynamic light sources gone

[woeful dove]

deadass?

[tacit gull]

visible armor? gone

[lost inlet]

Never forget they took away our mirror.

[woeful dove]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[tacit gull]

advanced glass breaking physics? gone

interesting gameplay quirks such as stingers swinging doors and stuns fucking up your camera? gone

[woeful dove]

I felt like something was missing, now I know what

[tacit gull]

i'd honestly be down to play that build again

[woeful dove]

anyway to reinstall a specific update?

[tacit gull]

even adam had its downsided but it wasnt as bad ad 1.0

[tacit gull]

well yeah as i said

look into steamdb ids

open up the steam console

[woeful dove]

sad new's is no dlc's (why does this game even have dlc's rofl

[tacit gull]

and the command i think was download_depot?

[tacit gull]

no but you get access to old (sometimes better) maps

aswell as the multiple gamemodes

[lost inlet]

I would do anything being to play old active shooter in wip fast food.

[spring saddle]

i miss some of the the alpha /.beta maps

there was a night mission in a warehouse that was dope

[woeful dove]

fuck it, downgrading

[lost inlet]

You could wedged all of the entrances, pick one that you wanna hold out then place a C2 on that door, tell your ai to focus on the door and blow the door. Every suspect inside the buildings just fucking rush toward the explosion and gets funnel to death.

Even better if you have 50+ suspects.

[tacit gull]

i think thats in the january update

[tacit gull]

that's port

https://steamdb.info/depot/1144201/history/?changeid=M:5657480203392608736

i think this is the adam depot

[spring saddle]

and the old school cherryhill ranch or whatever

[tacit gull]

💀

[spring saddle]

which turned into the cult map

[tacit gull]

i could take or leave old farm but what they did to hotel is shameful

port too

[spring saddle]

i forgot what the old hotel was like

[tacit gull]

even though port is one of the highlights

[spring saddle]

i played sinced day 1 since i wwas a big swat 2-4 fan

swat 2 was like gta3 status, birds eye view

i mean gta2

how do yhou join modded servers now? I came back and before if the host was modded you'd just download them and play

[tacit gull]

that wasnt a thing

[lost inlet]

Old farm and current farm have the same name.

[hallow fossil]

Why was my post deleted? It is a type of bug what I've posted.

[chilly thorn]

swat ai

also adam is 90 gigs

[grim python]

Oh, bugs don’t get fixed here. They’re features. lol

[chrome sleet]

I love playing as an intermittently deaf swat officer

Such a dope feature

[grim python]

Yeah and the game is LESS stable now? How does a game run smoother before 1.0 release?

[vestal swan]

i love it even more when the friendly ai just refuse to follow orders

[vestal swan]

having to maintain two/(or three if ps/xbox branches are seperate) of the game instead of one

[grim python]

console release was such a mistake bro 😭

[vestal swan]

and overall having to accomodate for lower specced systems

[vestal swan]

well you see financially it was huge success.. and that is all that matters

unfortunately

[grim python]

did the admins seriously block the word tr.uth?

wtf it said banned content 😭

anyways, #truthnuke

[vestal swan]

i genuinely believe the swat ai can be lobomised sometimes 😭

[scarlet spire]

is there a map thats good for like sniping modded or in the actual game

[fallow kraken]

Not that I know of as most maps are close quarters maybe a map with long hallways like the hospital map or a map with open outdoors

[scarlet spire]

sick thanks

[fallow kraken]

The map with the shipping containers maybe it’s sorta outdoorsy at first

[scarlet spire]

yea thats the one i normally use it in

[cedar mulch]

The story of the MLO and the USIA has come to an end, and the MLO has taken a severe blow. The next DLC will undoubtedly be about the Cartel and the Spider.

[fallow kraken]

What main weapon do you be running?

[scarlet spire]

Mostly modded kriss vector or ill go fal

i forgot the other names

[fallow kraken]

I main the mp7 and the five seven I mostly use the five seven I’m way better with pistols

[scarlet spire]

yeah i love the pistols

i try to do stealth bc ive always liked it but then i inevitably have to go loud

[fallow kraken]

Much easier to react quickly with good aim and not as loud

[scarlet spire]

yea

i mainly use any varient of the 1911 bc i love 1911s

currently im using the s2011-p

in ron screenshots is my original main gun i still use

not much my main anymore but

[chilly thorn]

Eh the issues have been fixed and we got stolen valor from it

stolen valor is like one of the best maps in the game

[woeful dove]

Rip game music

They forced it to be when u have like 3 suspects on you at once (rarely happens and when it does u usually die before u can hear the song)

[chilly thorn]

It depends on the map

but the 3 suspect thing isn't very true it can still happen whenever the game feels like

[tulip osprey]

Is it only me who wants a server list so you can actually join private lobbys instead of needing to do a public to play crossplay and also and passwords then ofc

[dire raft]

in all my play throughs they never clear the last section of the tunnel with the cartel

and when i go in first … i get one tapped

[distant rose]

If i start an ironman mode run, will my previous progress be lost? (Will i have to S rank ANA again to get it shown?)

[delicate wind]

do any of you have this problem where the replay ui crashes when you press pause or try to open the pause menu?

[rocky plover]

Progress on commander mode are separate for each save, quick play and multiplayer share the score

[queen jay]

guys can buckshot wallbang

because i was clearing a mission and shot a guy and there was a civ behind a door and the civ died some how

[hybrid swan]

Nah don’t think so

[solemn widget]

whats the difference between the mault, peq 15, and the laser pointer

[sleek rune]

only the laser pointer is visible to the naked eye

you need nvgs to see the other ones

[rocky plover]

They used to be like that

[rocky plover]

They changed them now, they all have visible laser and IR laser now

[rocky plover]

Exactly the same, all 3 have both visible laser and IR laser, the only difference is mault has green visible laser, and the other 2 have red visible laser

[sleek rune]

my fault then

[rocky plover]

No worries, just wanted to clarify

[hallow flower]

question, whats the point for laser nvg only? i think all ai suspect wont be able to detect reguler laser pointer

[sleek rune]

the regular one gives you away

i mean it gives your position away, just like the flashlight

[hallow flower]

wait is it? i thought its patched to not able to

[sleek rune]

what would be the point of the other lasers then?

[hallow flower]

thats what im asking

maybe for realism?

[rocky plover]

Suspects can only see flashlight

They can't see visible laser or IR laser

The IR laser can be seen better under night vision than regular laser and it also has a small illumination on the dot at the end, the normal laser just vanishes a bit sometimes under night vision

[grim python]

thicker beam under NVGs is the only thing I’ve noticed

[hallow flower]

so i could assume its pointless? i mean regular laser is much more preferable since it help to identify friends or foe

[rocky plover]

Wouldn't say completely useless, since the IR one is more visible under nods

[sleek rune]

someone in the chat said the laser pointer is giving your position away

i took that info as correct

[rocky plover]

Ye sadly there's a lot of misinformation out there even on YouTube videos...., before nothing alerted suspects and then when they changed it, only flashlight alerted suspects and it is still that way right now, so suspects can't see laser and IR laser right now.

[sleek rune]

thanks for giving out the right information dude, ur awesome

[rocky plover]

Glad to help, you're welcome.

[distant rose]

Aight thnx

[distant rose]

Aight kalm thnx

[hybrid swan]

Allg, it didn’t happen to me on any of my runs with it so shouldn’t do to yours, good luck lol

[distant rose]

Thanks. Tryna get the watch

[hybrid swan]

It is pretty cool, although I run the newer one you can get from S rank on a new America

[distant rose]

I have that as well. Was hella hard 2 get

[foggy knot]

I hope so

[hybrid swan]

Did you go for both? Cuffs too?

[wind gyro]

cuffs are for the bad ending

[hybrid swan]

Yes I know, was just asking if they went for both

[distant rose]

I think i did detonate the explosives in 1 run to get thr achievement but my game crashed after

So idk if ive the cuffs

[hybrid swan]

Oof that sucks, atleast it’s easier to run through with rifles and go for it again not worrying about ROE

[distant rose]

Yeah

Imma check if ive the cuffs or not, if not ill do Ana again to get them

[magic reef]

You can only get an s rank if you dont kill enemies right and just arrest them ?

[rocky plover]

If you're going for watch only can do it on casual

[distant rose]

I thought it had tk be standard at least?

[solemn widget]

relapse true solo has me tweaking holy

[rocky plover]

For achievements yes, cosmetics no

[distant rose]

May as well do standard for the achievements as well

Kill 3 birds with 1 stone

[rocky plover]

If you still need them then yes

I thought you only had watch left

Or just didn't care bout achievements

[distant rose]

In terms of base game cosmetics

Im also tryna get all achievements but Im not sure if programmed psychosis is even possible so idk.

[distant rose]

Yep. And get all main and soft objectives

[rocky plover]

I meant anything related to commander mode

[distant rose]

Oh ok

[glass heart]

you also need to get all the main and soft objectives as well as every single piece of evidence

the game will auto end once you do this so do not end it yourself

[distant rose]

I mainly want the watch but if i can also get 2 achievements at the same time I may as well.

[rocky plover]

Yea that's what I did - did it on standard mode, but wanted to let you know that if you decide to just want the watch only you can do that on casual, or god forbid you end up doing it on standard and get the achievements but not the watch you could always replay it on casual and just breeze through it.

[distant rose]

Aight Thnx for the info

[rocky plover]

You're welcome

[halcyon sentinel]

Is low armour relevant for more skilled players or should I stay with medium armour forever?

[tacit gull]

medium armor as in?

[pseudo sierra]

what mod do people use to get different camera angles while customizing your character

[unique wren]

the ai in this game make me want to cry

[sharp wedge]

dude i made it gettin S rank in new america even it 69 restart, thanks for advice for loadout setup and room clearance plan

[floral peak]

Yeah

[rocky plover]

Nice, congrats and you're welcome

[rocky plover]

If you're referring to light armor Vs heavy armor they are exactly the same with the difference that heavy armor has 2 less slots and can take the additional side plates that light armor doesn't have

[fallow kraken]

For some reason whenever I switch to heavy armour it never makes me take items out

[rocky plover]

You probably have a mod such as gunfighter or a slots mod, or it's just glitched

[fallow kraken]

I’ve never used mods so I think it’s just glitched

[halcyon sentinel]

Oh, I expressed myself wrong. Sorry. I meant about the mobility vests. You know, the heavier the slower.

[rocky plover]

That depends on material type (speed) not type of armor but keep in mind it also depends on number of plates (front only Vs front+back Vs full coverage)