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cedar mulch
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What on earth do those farm cult members eat? Their money will run out sooner or later, and I haven’t seen them keeping any animals

craggy fable
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This guy knows ball

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Front mouse button for flashlights, Back button for Low ready, space bar for free lean

inner veldt
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23 mb mission, I have looked around, outside and inside. But still A+

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WHERE IS THE FINAL OBJECTIVE ???!!!

rocky plover
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server, pc, pictures in bedside table

inner veldt
rocky plover
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never force end a mission if you want S; that means you didn't get everything

worn dawn
sonic flint
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Hiya

rustic lotus
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Hey can someone lmk ping me if there's specific voicelines in-game for a hostage scenario ND not the same yell to put the gun down lines?

sonic flint
urban mural
slim verge
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Didnt think that using laser on gun might change game difficulty so much. First tried to play ana with lasers on gun then no lasers

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It become so easy to kill suspects with no laser on gun

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They become more blind, more stupid and less accurate

toxic sparrow
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Hello guys, I have a question. If I disable the cosmetic unlocker mod, will the clothes still be unlockable or will everything stay unlocked? Also, if I unlock a item by achieving the required rank on a map while the mod is active, will that clothing be unlocked after I disable the mod?

glad dune
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Hmmm good question

copper cypress
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If you already know that the final result is E or F, would you guys execute the suspect?

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After two civilians died at the Elephant, I executed four suspects in a fit of rage.

glad dune
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Yes

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That mission makes me lose my mind

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It takes 4 ever to defuse the bombs

copper cypress
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Lmao

molten wasp
glad dune
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Both bombs on the elephant

molten wasp
glad dune
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And suspects running away while shooting and perfectly hitting you

coral tapir
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Honestly Elephant on Hard diff makes me hate it almost if not more than Greased Palms with the fast ass Active Shooter situation.

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Not gonna lie I would rather bear with the latter's superhuman advantage rather than fast Active Shooter.

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Well I just got S on Hard Elephant last night so yeah.

chrome vault
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With my experience on playing the Elephant on hard, I would recommend checking out a YouTube tutorial of the best pathways to clear out the building.
Make your entrance as loud as possible with callouts.
Attempt to memorise all of the bomb locations (9 total) while being on the lookout for suspects whom are often near the bombs. Keep in mind that you will have exactly 8 minutes before either bomb detonates.
As for the loadout, light armour is obviously recommended for efficiency (ceramic works well as there are only 5 suspects on hard). Without the triple weapon pack offered with the DLC bundle, the game still offers grenade launchers for long range tactical which are convenient because the grenades detonate immediately upon contact with a surface (flash bang is highly recommended above all because gas grenades are quite slow to activate and stingers risk penalty from friendly fire)
Remember that double doors (assuming that both can open, noting the set leading into middle of the central room in the penthouse in Ides of March) will absolutely never have traps.

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From what I remember, the most effective path for efficiency is using the main entrance, move past the downed officer and moving up the stairs. Turn left and move past the lecture hall after giving it a quick check for a bomb. Continue moving and if not upstairs, scan the hallway below for suspects and a bomb near the cafƩ. Without any luck, move back up the stairwell and push to the other side of the building without forgetting to look over the edge of the banister for a bomb on the table before moving into biology classrooms with green doors. This area seems to have the highest density of traps, so tread carefully.

surreal merlin
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is the ai better since boiling point release?

wintry adder
surreal merlin
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my team

wintry adder
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no

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the enemy thou is way better

surreal merlin
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oh ok

wintry adder
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if 2 of the enemy are close by they kinda work together

surreal merlin
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šŸ’€

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i aint ready

wintry adder
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you talk about new america yes ?

rocky plover
surreal merlin
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ohh is it a mission

wintry adder
wintry adder
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82 tries

rocky plover
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nice, dayum lol

wintry adder
rocky plover
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thats good for 40 hrs

glad dune
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AHHHHG

wintry adder
glad dune
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40 hours sounds nice

surreal merlin
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is new america the hardest one now?

glad dune
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Yes

wintry adder
glad dune
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But elephant is a second for me

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Greased palms is overrated

wintry adder
surreal merlin
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i remember people saying 3 letter triad is hard too

glad dune
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No no

surreal merlin
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and thats how i remember it as well

glad dune
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Its only hard with Ai teammates

surreal merlin
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my friends all play ahh games

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so yh

glad dune
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Ai teammates have like 0 situational awareness

wintry adder
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advice for the mission A New America if you hear a suspect saying spottet its over give up

glad dune
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No man

wintry adder
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bro they say that if you are not aware of them and them shoot you down man

glad dune
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I used the motion sensor to my advantage

surreal merlin
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is the new rifle good or is it ahh

glad dune
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Its peak

wintry adder
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@glad dune you played it solo on hard with pistol ?

glad dune
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No no
I never use pistol

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And I dont even want to try the hard mode

wintry adder
glad dune
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😢

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Just not ready to punch my monitor

wintry adder
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lets be honest who would win 23 King Vons vs you alone with a pistol

surreal merlin
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king von is dead so him

glad dune
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Bruh

wintry adder
surreal merlin
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it doesnt matter if they're dead šŸ„€

glad dune
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King von

wintry adder
surreal merlin
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pipe down bro

wintry adder
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trust try it

surreal merlin
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brother missed the joke

wintry adder
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nah

surreal merlin
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sure ig

wintry adder
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you got the dlc ?

surreal merlin
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yh

wintry adder
glad dune
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The passive aggressiveness is strong

loud whale
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Bank level, despite the entrance/ground floor chaos at the start is actually a really fun level cant lie

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almost reminds me of the SWAT 4 level

velvet verge
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are the RoN devs openly against AI use or what

gritty star
glad dune
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Like the mindjot employees photo in the office

velvet verge
glad dune
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I would assume

velvet verge
blazing shoal
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is it just me or is the ai bad at throwing flashes through doors now

blazing shoal
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ohh thank you

glad dune
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They're very bad at throwing that shit

blazing shoal
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hopefully that gets resolved alongside the civilian getting stuck under tables and beds

gritty star
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I need them to fix reloading the G18C

blazing shoal
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why whats up with that lol

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nvm its on the list

glad dune
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Btw
Whats up with hunger strike being harder than I remember

gritty star
glad dune
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You have to be faster otherwise the suspects start killing civilians

gritty star
glad dune
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I downloaded a mod that fixes that problem

quasi coral
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I am dissatisfied with the uninclusion of the Eotech /w G23 Combo

left nexus
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guys whats the best traits for hard s ranks? i was thinking between:

1: 1x armorer 1x nutritionist 2x negotiator
2: 1x armorer 2x negotiatior 1x pacifier
3. 1x armorer 1x nutritionist 2x pacifier
4. 2x negotiatior 2x pacifier

surreal pelican
left nexus
surreal pelican
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Negotiator is 50% chance if you bring both BUT it only works once on each suspect

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So if you shout or team AI shouts, it's either they surrender or they just tank it and no more chance to reroll it on the same suspect

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But with pacifier it's infinite, especially with the M32A1 flash launcher + team AI infinite ammo

left nexus
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interesting, less lethals are very unreliable on hard so ill try out pacifier, thx

surreal pelican
left nexus
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i am but they always die

surreal pelican
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And run 2x pacifiers and negotiators respectively; heavy steel armour for them

surreal pelican
left nexus
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they also never shoot their launchers

left nexus
surreal pelican
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Nice

surreal pelican
left nexus
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i mean they do but its always too late and one of the swat ai dies

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they take forever to identify a threat

loud whale
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got to the end of the final mission finally...found detonator man..1 second too late šŸ™

pliant juniper
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Does firing people cause stress levels of your team to increase?

surreal pelican
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Yes

floral peak
pliant juniper
floral peak
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The more attempts we make for Hard S ana, the weirder it gets 😭

rocky plover
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ye lol

floral peak
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Like just now, we were approaching the room, suspect somehow cuffed himself

rocky plover
floral peak
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metal

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i watched replay

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Mf just appeared from thin air and already cuffed 😭

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@rocky plover

rocky plover
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lmfao

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it's the same mechanics like weapons falling out of bounds, they get auto secured, weird thing to see it happen to suspects as well though

floral peak
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good thing it is happening

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but this was too comic 😭

rocky plover
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yea lol

floral peak
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you can find it in your replays

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on 2:57

rocky plover
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i disabled replays

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you trying programmed psychosis again?

floral peak
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no

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i just watching this replay over and over

rocky plover
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ahh

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we try again later?

floral peak
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Okay i figured out what happened

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so, he was running around

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yk we cant go downstairs right?

rocky plover
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the guy who got auto secured?

floral peak
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So this mf just didnt care and walked through the textures, downstairs

rocky plover
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oh he tried to go down from the stairs that we usually go up from

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lmfao

floral peak
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and after that he got TPd to his room and autocuffed

rocky plover
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hahahhaa

surreal merlin
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how do i open the vault on the bank mission

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i got a keycard, i opened a small safe, i interacted with a suspicious computer, got a password that was written on a whiteboard then interacted with another computer, do i still need something?

tacit gull
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if you enter the password in the computer and use the keycard it should open

gritty vessel
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Is there a glitch with the Glock 18? If I shoot (but leave a couple bullets in mag 1), and then reload. It fires the remaining bullets from mag 1.
Despite mag 2 being loaded it seems to fire mag 1 first.

rocky plover
north hamlet
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One for the safe & one for the vault

surreal merlin
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yh i realised im dumb

wraith glade
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I can't decide if the AI in that game are dumb, or I'm just bad at the game. I went to clear the gas station, and try out some new tactics and weapons, go breach and clear the side door, and have them clear the main area. We subdue all subjects, and go on to clear the rest of the facility. As I'm clearing the alley behind the store, I'm yelling at this guy. He's being non-compliant, so I hit him with pepper ball rounds. He shoots at me. And I send 4 rounds of 300 blackout into his chest.

My question is this: WHY ARE THE PEPPERBALL ROUNDS GARBAGE?! They just seem to piss off the subjects, and not make them compliant.

lost inlet
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4 shots at minimum to stunned a suspect which is half of the magazine for every enemy.

supple needle
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When im using 9-bangs the AI for some reason keeps throwing them in front of me when breaching instead of in the room. anyone know why?

glad dune
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Bad ai

lost inlet
glad dune
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Bruh

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That sounds about righy

lost inlet
supple needle
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lol

sweet nacelle
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Hey guys! Do you any of you know where I can find my supporter Code?

fair dune
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Ready or not for what?

twilit widget
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Is it true Ron is getting new characters/cosmetics I keep seeing that everywhere n idk if it’s true or not atp

winter pendant
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I haven't heard anything about new characters but there are new cosmetics like every time a dlc drops

wide scaffold
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Mag dumping a suspect is the best part of this game

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Damn i just noticed that you can pop tires

elder void
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Last night I encountered a bug in coop mode. After my teammate died, I noticed I lost my ability to lean not could I handcuff anyone.

craggy fable
rocky plover
craggy fable
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^^

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It prevents free lean too which is super annoying

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I thought it was because I kept getting injured…turns out it’s a bug

glad dune
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Oh yeah
That happened to me aswell

bitter marlin
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I just wanna beat relapse brah

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I realized you gotta do all the main missions to utilize your dlc

craggy fable
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In commander mode sure, you need to finish the main levels first

bitter marlin
craggy fable
craggy fable
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Same

hard hound
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How does one go about no death Ironman mode

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Just run and gun?

craggy fable
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You can, but it has its risks

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I did it fully no lethal to keep my officers from going insane

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It’s the harder route tho

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If anything go nonlethal on the missions you’re comfortable with. When you get to the harder missions, go lethal but still try to arrest suspects when you can

rocky plover
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i did it lethal way and swapped officers around to keep them as content as possible and sent the other ones to therapy as fast as i could

craggy fable
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That’s works too

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I did it all nonlethal with the same officers šŸ’”. Still managed it tho

rocky plover
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i used 1 armorer, 1 nutritionist, 2 veterans for the most part where i could

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unless i had to send 1 of them to therapy

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ye non lethal also works, i just didnt wanna risk it

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so i killed on sight with the occasional free arrests here and there

craggy fable
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I probably should’ve done it that way tbh, but oh well

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As for officer traits, I honestly don’t even know what I was using

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Besides a negotiator

rocky plover
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i mean as long as it's done now, nothing to worry about xD

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if you've did it non lethal way probably negotiator and pacifier

craggy fable
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I wasn’t too focused on their traits, I just didn’t want them dying

rocky plover
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true

tulip prawn
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Will void update the game engine to UE 5.7 eventually?

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the game runs so terribly and the lighting looks a lot worse compared to last UE4 build which was released 5 March 2024

floral peak
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1-2 S rank clears and forget

rocky plover
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didnt wanna waste a lot of time tbh thats why i didnt spam gas station or smth

rocky plover
floral peak
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Sure

rocky plover
# floral peak Sure

btw i tested the dead civ/suspect after arresting S rank thing, you'd still get S if you had arrested civ/suspect

floral peak
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who hosts this time

rocky plover
floral peak
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we can only afford suspects

rocky plover
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in that case yeah true, was mostly referring to suspects

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also i figured a way for a counter breach when they rush

wintry adder
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Yall think this game will continue with another dlc ?

rocky plover
rocky plover
wintry adder
rocky plover
wintry adder
rocky plover
wintry adder
rocky plover
wintry adder
onyx swift
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yeah the AI could still use a few tweaks

obtuse sequoia
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I still want an airport mission

somber wolf
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Play it like tarkov and prefire corners

wintry adder
obtuse sequoia
onyx swift
obtuse sequoia
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I wish they would have added a Glock 17 instead of an 18c

obtuse sequoia
somber wolf
wintry adder
obtuse sequoia
# wintry adder huh ?

I’m saying that no swat team would issue an 18c and that they should have added a Glock 17 instead

wintry adder
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@obtuse sequoia you are soldier ?

obtuse sequoia
wintry adder
glad dune
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Cool

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I try to get into airsoft

hearty portal
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airsoft is illegal in my country

glad dune
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Wheres that

hearty portal
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australia

glad dune
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Oh shit

somber wolf
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My condolences

wintry adder
hearty portal
wintry adder
inland prawn
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Is there any penetration difference between light and heavy armor or is light armor just missing the bicep armor?

rocky plover
wraith gale
hearty portal
stoic juniper
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7 minutes

hearty portal
floral peak
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Holy, we could’ve have 20 suspects cuffed on that attempt

rocky plover
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yeah, i'm thinking what we could have done differently, but 1 suspect just didn't care about the ~5 flashes he ate

floral peak
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If they weren’t constantly pushing, we might had a pretty good run

rocky plover
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yup, could have been only around 5 suspects on top floor including courtroom

floral peak
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Note: baiting worked

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They started flooding the room

rocky plover
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yeah, problem is when alot are together, their morale is shared/increased

floral peak
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Imagine if we had 9 bang

rocky plover
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so they surrender less

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yeah im thinking of keeping 1 9bang for this scenario

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so it stuns multiple times

floral peak
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Yeah

rocky plover
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and "MAYBE" they surrender

floral peak
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I ā¤ļø RNG surrender chances

craggy fable
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Meow

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I’m eating Doritos guys

pastel mulch
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mrrp

rocky plover
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first it was just 1 suspect, then 2 more came then another 2 more came lmao, all were stunned but 1 didnt wanna surrender XD

floral peak
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2*

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Another one came from left door

rocky plover
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damn

floral peak
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And then went back

rocky plover
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still though lmao

floral peak
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Yeah

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But we keep getting closer

rocky plover
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was a very good run, i wasnt even shot once up until that point too

floral peak
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Day by day

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Yeah

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I was very lucky this run

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There was several instances where I should’ve been get shot

rocky plover
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idk how he saw you though while you were mirroring the corner

floral peak
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But they missed

rocky plover
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you were kinda behind cover

floral peak
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Maybe arm

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Because I went lil deeper

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Didn’t thought he will come back this fast

rocky plover
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i think they have to see your "head" for actual being able to see you

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yea lol

floral peak
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I think not

rocky plover
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then why is it with crouch-peek free lean you can see them without them seeing you?

floral peak
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Idk man

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It’s so weird

rocky plover
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yea

floral peak
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Sometime they see us from pixel angle

rocky plover
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hard mode is weird indeed šŸ˜„

floral peak
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And sometime they don’t see point blank

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Like that time in reception hall

rocky plover
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like that guy behind the cake

devout mortar
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hey, does anyone know the name of the mode where you can get every points even if you kill the suspects ?

rocky plover
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or relaxed roe i think not sure

devout mortar
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thanks bro

rocky plover
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šŸ‘

floral peak
marsh lark
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no mercy for terrorists is the name as Full Metal said

floral peak
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Oh mb

tiny girder
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Dude

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This is so stupid
My brother finally got the achievement

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My eyes it burns achie
We thought we had to injure them instead we have to kill them 😭

tulip prawn
rocky plover
onyx swift
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true

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At least they can breach properly now

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Too many times before the update where they would get stuck on air

rocky plover
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they still fuck up the throwing grenades part sometimes though

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especially with stingers and 9 bangs for some reason lol

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clear with launcher seems to work better though

unkempt granite
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because AI Overhaul really helps with this

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idk fi this is bc of that mod or what but if you tell them to clear a room before entering they react properly

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but like if i'm really honest just give them full armor shields and steel and leave them behind

surreal merlin
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what's the best strat for 3rd floor-4th floor in a new america

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1st and 2nd are easy but on the 3rd i always die

rocky plover
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4th is worse than 3rd i feel like, for 3rd wedge as many rooms as you can and take it 1 by 1, the worst part is the spiral stairs area

outer fossil
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just unlocked a new america, how fucked am i?

rocky plover
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good luck, 1 of the hardest if not the hardest tbh

outer fossil
rocky plover
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very on par with 3 letter triad yes, harder than hide n seek for sure

tiny girder
outer fossil
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8 minute briefingBIGtacticat

tiny girder
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šŸ„€

desert island
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g18c still bugged?

rocky plover
desert island
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lame

rocky plover
thick dome
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whats the stuff in bold in the known issues post mean?

rocky plover
steady wolf
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My shit stiff

unkempt granite
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i was 5 dudes away

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ts genuinely impossible šŸ’”

pliant juniper
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is there gonna be any new dlcs coming out!

unkempt granite
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i'll try to run heavy armor with steel and all slots going to the grenade launcher for hide and seek

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with 4 extra on the m320

rocky plover
wooden lintel
pliant juniper
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thank you

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also is there any other missions after new America on boiling point?

craggy fable
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No

rocky plover
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Nope

wooden lintel
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No, just 3 as always

pliant juniper
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ah I see

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thanks

craggy fable
rocky plover
wooden lintel
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Yeah, that's good tip

unkempt granite
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if it was more close quarters i would try and use the shotgun instead

rocky plover
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It's for when you're closer to the suspect, also handy when peeking doorways in tight spaces

unkempt granite
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how i wish the TRPL was useful šŸ’”

rocky plover
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Yea that's why I put 1 slot towards the taser because that's essentially 6 arrests while 1 slot towards the trpl is only 1 arrest lol

slim river
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I don’t know what’s good I’m new to the game.

wooden lintel
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The best thing for now is to test everything for yourself and see what suits you

slim river
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Load out sucks and don’t know what to use

wooden lintel
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Expect to die a lot, we all die even with hundreds hours

rocky plover
chrome vault
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AI doesn't run out of ammunition??? Christ, that's a real eye-opener

unkempt granite
rocky plover
thick dome
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rotary flash launcher is the goat if you are trying S rank. mkV pistol is excellent becasue it will 1 shot at any distance anywhere..leg..torso doesnt matter. so on hide n seek you can snipe peopjle at a long range with it pretty easy (laser dot)

unkempt granite
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i'm a flash launcher fan till death

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bean bag is fine for cqb but that's it

rocky plover
thick dome
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although, now that we have multi zoom optics that actually work, that might be less useful than it used to be

wooden lintel
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Also if you flash few suspects at once but you play alone or with 1, always fake arrest them so they will drop secondary gun

rocky plover
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Beanbag is good, still much better than the pepperball rifle/smg but damn the flash launcher made everything look like trash lol

wooden lintel
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Easier to control them after this

rocky plover
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^^ arrest cancelling is so op

unkempt granite
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i wish i could give the flash launcher an 4x scope

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12x would be overkill but 4x would be nice for medium to far distances

rocky plover
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Eh personally 1x is enough for the maps that we have

chrome vault
# rocky plover ^^ arrest cancelling is so op

I can't tell you the amount of times I've had a room full of suspects and the AI team doesn't handcuff any of them because there is a civilian or one suspect which causes any of the several down suspects to get up and slime everyone's ass.

rocky plover
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Yeah I hate when that happens

hoary comet
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anyone wanna join EU #11 with a working epic account that can host for a steam and epic user?

wide thicket
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is "My Eyes, It Burns!" bugged?

unkempt granite
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the only thing i wish we had was a counter as to how many suspects you've arrested

rocky plover
rocky plover
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Or type in chat if I'm in MP

wooden lintel
rocky plover
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Yeah I got it after I restarted all gods burn lol

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Probably from the previous tries that I did

wooden lintel
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Yeah could be

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I tried too

rocky plover
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Cos I tried like 30 times on no good deeds and another 20 times on all gods burn

wooden lintel
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Can't complain tho lol

rocky plover
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Then it finally unlocked somehow lol

unkempt granite
wooden lintel
rocky plover
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Hahah

chrome vault
# unkempt granite ye

That means you can install mods. You could probably find a utility mod that keeps track of arrested suspects.

outer fossil
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why wont the search and secure command activate after ive killed all suspects on a new america

unkempt granite
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i was missing two

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and one shot me down

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one surrendered

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i fucking hate this game šŸ’”

glad dune
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Oof

unique quail
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anyone S-ranked ANA on hard with bots? if so how the FUCK did you deal with the last room

chrome vault
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I was out of launchers so I walked in with a shield in front of me. With the enemies mean focus being me, my AI teammates were able to quickly deal with any enemies.
To be fair, I've only seen one enemy in that room at most because I've only been in there twice since I save it for last.

surreal merlin
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are there soft objectives on last mission of boiling point?

grim seal
surreal merlin
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ok

wooden tapir
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what should i do if i cant find the last civ on relapse

grim seal
wooden tapir
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with ai

grim seal
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normal response would be to have ai look for you but theyre useless

wooden tapir
#

lit gone through the whole hospital like 3 times

grim seal
#

if ur super desparate and just want to get it over with then just shoot a non surrendered civ so u fail that objective and u can soft complete

smoky grotto
#

Hey guys has anybody installed Ready or Not Here I Come AI Realistic Mod Pack?
I just installed one of it, but idk how to activate it.

grim seal
#

do not shoot someone with their hands up or ur team will kill you

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otherwise u just have to keep looking cuz theyre somewhere for sure, even if theyre hiding in a spot thats genuinely stupid

outer fossil
#

omg ive been searching A new america for like an hour looking for the last civlian or 2 where are they

pliant juniper
#

is there any reason behind that

tough veldt
hard hound
#

Guys I hate my luck medal of valor 17/18 they all show s rank have all tatoos then I go through each mission to find the last one in a random order and I made it through 17 and didn’t play the one it didn’t count

#

So I replayed all 18 instead of getting lucky and replaying like 3

grim seal
# pliant juniper why do they kill you?

if ur playing commander and u kill any civ or suspect that has completely surrended (hands up and kneeling on the ground) then:
I. your hp is lowered to 1
II. ai health and ammo is set to infinite
III. toc commands ur ai to kill you
IV. all of your commands are replaced with "kill me"

idk why exactly but i mean technically u shouldnt be killing ppl who have surrended already

glass heart
#

its twofold, one so you dont just kill everyone when your swat ai is present and maybe because they consider judge has gone rogue and end him

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given that hes a bit special due to the usia indoctrination

grim seal
#

oh yeah cuz hes the mkultra guy

glass heart
#

in practice the mechanic sucks lmao

#

sometimes i dont want to catch someone alive

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especially when they lit me the fuck up

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thankfully spawnpolice disables this behavior

pliant juniper
sonic saddle
#

(satire) judge is trans-race, in Lethal Obsession when I go into a shadow, judge turns to a black man bro

#

some of the finest in the metropolitan divsion

tiny girder
balmy patio
hollow finch
#

@uncut cliff what did you say in the clips chat? it gets deleted when there isnt a video attached

balmy patio
#

the hell do you mean i gotta warn the MLO dude with a m249 that im about to shoot him

uncut cliff
glass heart
somber wolf
hollow finch
somber wolf
hollow finch
#

just hush bud

somber wolf
rustic lotus
#

Bug on Xbox I can't see my legs

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Only my shoes

sturdy pawn
#

Not your problem if it hits a civvie in the back

agile cargo
#

Does anyone know if they have ANY intention of fixing achievement related bugs or they just don`t give a fuck?

#

Because they have rolled out another DLC with bugged achievements, rolled out new achievements and haven`t even fixed the old bugs.... '

#

Do they even acknowledge the bugs or they just ignore all reports?

serene horizon
#

what’s your guys favorite mission

serene horizon
thick dome
#

i dont understand RoNs weapon design philosophy. other than the MP5, which has leagues better recoil, there doesnt seem to be any use case for SMGs in this game compared to ARs. they do less dmg, similar RoF, same ammo quantity other than the MP7, and other than the MP5 have alot more recoil than even the AR180. they arent short enough to make any real difference in length. they seem to have no niche

hard hound
outer fossil
#

is there a way to play with specific console players without connecting an epic account

hard hound
#

I don’t think so

agile cargo
#

It`s not rocket science

serene horizon
#

@agile cargo holy embed fail 😭

agile cargo
#

yeah, it fails

#

welp

#

cry me a river anyway

serene horizon
#

js give it up dude

agile cargo
serene horizon
#

cool šŸ‘

agile cargo
#

but read everywhere that achievements are glitched

outer fossil
#

i get the achievment complaints tho

crude prism
thick dome
#

heh

#

not incorrect

crude prism
#

Increase controllability?

Increase stagger against both armor/unarmored body parts so they would at least flinch suspects more reliably? (like the other weapons)

Reduce the ridiculous bouncy recoil for having an arm injury? (of which the penalties are irrelevant on rifles and shotguns)

Make them get better ammo economy since the mags are smaller?

thick dome
#

yah, the recil is silly on the SMGs

#

and yes, they should get better ammo economy so you can carry more utility items. that would be a reasonable trade

crude prism
#

Even if they didn't change the damage or anything else, just getting 2x mags per point would be a huge change.

Still won't let any of them shoot through half the suspect armor types.

thick dome
#

yeah, but thats fine. but the recoil, other than the mp5 is stupid. go take the mpx and do a side by side recoil test vs the g36..or even the mcx

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or even the AR 180. its at least 2x the recoil of those rifles

somber wolf
#

Yaaaay randoms doing ANA

crude prism
valid raven
#

The city in this game feels like it’s falling apart

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And has been for a long time

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Some would say that’s the goal to make people more desperate and useing that desperation to gain more power for themselves

plain notch
#

got a question for everyone, has anyone else on the college shooting every had only one bomb and the other just nowhere to be seen in the map?

craggy fable
#

No

plain notch
#

so its only me?

craggy fable
#

They can be hard to find sometimes but they are both there

#

Check every room

plain notch
#

ive cleared the campus 3 times

craggy fable
#

Both first and second floor

plain notch
#

never had any bombs one 1

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i mean one bomb no second bomb cause i knwo when yhour near it beeps

craggy fable
#

Might be a bug. Hasn’t happened to me tho

#

What difficulty are you on?

plain notch
#

normal

craggy fable
plain notch
#

just the defualt one really 😭

craggy fable
#

Either not checking correctly or it’s a bug

#

I’d have to test it myself to see but that’s never happened to me

plain notch
#

yeah so im restarting the mission myself one time i was mid-defusing but i ran out of time 😭

#

so i got blown up and the second try aka my current its non-existant so im finna just restart it

crude prism
cedar mulch
crude prism
#

consult the red names

lost inlet
agile cargo
golden temple
#

Unrelated, but whats a good cqc rifle? I really dig the arn and the slr, but i feel like they leave me hanging one too many times through doors, and ive tried smgs but suspects eat bullets in hard :(

slim saddle
#

VPL-25

golden temple
#

Might be fire

thick dome
strong fox
golden temple
golden temple
#

Thanks by the way :))))

strong fox
#

No problem

thick dome
#

if you hitting limbs, theres a big difference bt AP and JHP. but center mass no difference but for armor

golden temple
#

I usually always run JHP on my sidearm, but might try running it on my primary

unkempt granite
#

hide and seek is hell

#

that is my theory šŸ’”

supple scaffold
#

guys

#

Is there a way to fix the lag issue for my friends?

#

When I'm the host they're having like 200ms, when they are the host I have the same problem

molten prairie
#

I swear the friendly AI is useless at gun fighting.

#

Somehow had a friendly AI with a shotgun lose to a single guy with a pistol who ran right past him while shooting backwards.

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(Not even gonna question how the suspect AI was violating the laws of physics and shooting bullets out of the back of their head.)

gilded fiber
#

Guys is there any video on the lore of the character judge the person we play as in ready of not

gilded fiber
candid cedar
fleet imp
#

Smth that's being theorised from the secret ending of boiling point is that judge is also a usia test subject

candid cedar
#

thats not even a theory this is been clear ever since lethal obession

#

on that subject however, i know about one of the two cosmetics earnable in boiling point ||that being that handcuff|| but what about the other one?

fleet imp
#

I only have the cosmetic you refer to

#

No idea about the other

candid cedar
#

if anyone knows what these 2 items are that are refered too in the steam store, please let me know

"• Cosmetics available upon fully completing Boiling Point missions:

  • 2 more Tattoos

  • 2 more Cosmetic Items
    "

chilly thorn
candid cedar
blissful yacht
#

hey guys

chilly thorn
blissful yacht
#

what do i do after I complete the game

dim spindle
#

can oce generally play with us? i'm not sure what oce looks like but back in october i tried and it was either dead or i got kicked out of lobbies because they were reserving for mates

candid cedar
blissful yacht
#

bro

#

I completed it in like 5 days

candid cedar
#

That's what everyone else does

candid cedar
hollow nova
#

does an officer being saved by paramedic perk count as losing them

#

trying to get the developers ruined watch

slim river
#

I just played the neon night club

#

It was the phones

velvet verge
#

LFG OCE

rocky plover
#

I think you still get watch though

fossil radish
#

I'm finally reach "Hide and Seek" mission... What Could go wrong in that mission Clueless

glass saffron
# candid cedar How do you get those last 3 oomf

Orange watch - must S rank ANA and interact with the watch in judges apartment ending

Duality - must S rank ANA (in general I believe)

Devil - interact with the Devil that is scratched into the table while in the jail cell after letting bombs go off or detonating them yourself.

#

Sorry if I pinged you a day later after your message I only just noticed the message you sent was yesterday.. my fault if I sent already clarified information

fossil radish
#

I'm not ready 😭

celest token
#

ooof

#

what you play on?

celest token
fossil radish
#

PC

#

But i will try to beat the game solo first

celest token
#

ah ok will im on ps5

glossy pebble
celest token
inner veldt
#

Who will win?

Los Suenos SWAT. Or.. S.W.A.T (2017)??

cerulean crescent
#

Well, the LSPD has Judge so

#

probably LSPD Swat

glad dune
#

Wth is swat 2017

cerulean crescent
#

TV Show remake of the original SWAT Tv show from I think the 80s?

glad dune
#

Ohhhh

cerulean crescent
#

sorry 70s

glad dune
#

Typical weird cop shows

cerulean crescent
#

You've most likely heard the theme song from the show

glad dune
#

Darude sandstorm?

cerulean crescent
#

yes

glad dune
#

Best emotional soundtrack ever made

surreal merlin
#

There are 2 things I didn't understand in this game throughout my playthroughs: Why did FISA want Judge to close the doors to the women cargo container? and what is Judge's backstory because something feels off about him?

blazing shoal
#

im guessing FISA may have wanted to interview those women to uncover the entire operation and did not want them running away and escaping considering what they've gone through

quasi coral
blazing shoal
#

yeah its very vague tbh, it could be questionable or not

velvet verge
#

I'm trying to do the no team-death ironman achievement and one of my guys just died and I instantly alt-f4 I heard that keeps the achievement going but is it true??

rocky plover
velvet verge
#

I js went back into it and its literally exactly how it was before I went into the mission so I think I'm good

rocky plover
#

It would still show you that he died in the roster, if not it should put you to where you were before you attempted that

urban mural
rustic jackal
rustic jackal
#

ironic coincidence

blazing shoal
#

i wonder if the base game will get updated and have more missions cuz i still feel like theres more to it

surreal merlin
#

but what about judge and his weird apartment? is he brainwashed like some people said or just obsessed with his job

blazing shoal
#

oh yeah its also implied that he has connections with the USIA

#

theres stuff about something similar to mk ultra and super soldier experiments that could explain why he doesnt show stress from what i've seen

#

its all speculative to me rn

#

i just read a good chunk of the wiki about judge like a few days ago lol

chrome vault
#

I honestly like to believe (for lore purposes, not ethics obviously) that the USIA wanted to secure the trafficed container of women in Hide and Seek to continue their experiments on which would possibly make it cool character for any sequel of the game.

surreal merlin
#

Though if Judge really is connected with the USIA and MLO then why is he leading raids against them?

velvet verge
surreal pelican
surreal pelican
#

Yeh

velvet verge
#

multiplayer or singeplayer only?

surreal pelican
#

Single

velvet verge
#

holy

surreal merlin
velvet verge
#

so how does it work? after u do it then what happens?

surreal merlin
#

you can interact with stuff there, then you can leave and you just go back to hq

velvet verge
#

I DONT MEAN SPOILERS

#

but like how do u get there

surreal merlin
#

s rank new america

velvet verge
rocky plover
#

Or blow it up and end up somewhere else

#

Cutscene takes you to his apartment

surreal pelican
rocky plover
#

Then after U finish that you resume normal duties

velvet verge
surreal pelican
#

Btw how do you change lobbies? I wanna go change it to DLC 1

rocky plover
velvet verge
surreal pelican
#

Yej

rocky plover
#

You can't

surreal pelican
#

bruuuuhhhh

velvet verge
# rocky plover 2

theres one for not S-ranking but using the detonator is there not?

rocky plover
#

Only in commander mode I think u can

velvet verge
velvet verge
#

so 3

rocky plover
#

That's the other 1

surreal pelican
#

Theres only those 2 but u can only activate those endings in commander or quick play only

velvet verge
surreal pelican
#

Yeah assuming no s rank

rocky plover
#

Well no cutscene for it just a score like the other missions

surreal pelican
#

Ya

surreal pelican
#

On the beanbag shotgun; and vice versa 870 cqb

rocky plover
#

Payday 2 moment

#

🤣

velvet verge
#

and u said P-ranking is the canon ending?

surreal pelican
velvet verge
#

S*

surreal pelican
#

Ya S rank

rocky plover
rocky plover
#

Reminded me of the op snowballs

surreal pelican
#

The canon ending is just waking up and realising you have a loving family with 3 kids

surreal pelican
rocky plover
#

And the cash blaster or whatever it was called

wooden lintel
#

We need water guns tomorrow!

surreal pelican
#

Wait there was snowballs? When?

floral peak
rocky plover
surreal pelican
rocky plover
#

Hahaha

velvet verge
#

also I'm extremely curious on how the next DLC will work, this was kinda a finale so I dont know how they would incorporate a canon ending without playing as a different character

surreal pelican
# rocky plover Every December I think

My first overdrill attempt: fucked up the puzzle

Second overdrill: teammate so happy that he sprinted down as we were still loading the gold bars and he die

rocky plover
#

Hahahhahaa

#

Good old times

surreal pelican
#

Payday 2 was my first ever pc game that I played on my computer

floral peak
#

Metal, you wanna try hard s rn?

rocky plover
surreal pelican
# rocky plover Good old times

Long before I had a proper GPU.

Fun fact: I actually bought the EA Ready Or Not (I got to see the old dark ass station)

But I refunded because I was lagging hard šŸ˜‚ (no GPU at that time just integrated) and I remember fondly I was playing Ides of March

rocky plover
#

Damn haha

surreal pelican
#

Yeaahh

#

2022-23 era

velvet verge
#

what would you consider the best pistol for an AI tac shield

blazing shoal
#

whats up with the first 2 DLCs having mixed reviews lol

surreal pelican
#

My shield has the Five-Seven; others get G-18C

surreal pelican
#

The missions I really like in both dlcs was just Narcos and probably 3 Letter Triad

floral peak
surreal pelican
blazing shoal
#

lmfao

surreal pelican
#

I even chemmarked it

blazing shoal
#

do you guys think that the base game will get more missions in updates or nah

velvet verge
#

wth

blazing shoal
#

i'd feel disappointed if not

surreal pelican
velvet verge
#

the guy with the messed up first is directly in the federal government??

surreal pelican
#

?

velvet verge
#

unless its him just using it as a coverup

#

genuinely confusing

blazing shoal
#

nah i think that would be strange

velvet verge
surreal pelican
#

what's the first 911 call

#

i didn't hear em coz long ass call and hated programmed pscyhosis

floral peak
#

imagine another game from VOID, where we play as detective Reed

#

trying to understand everything happening in this damn city

blazing shoal
#

Ready or Not 2: Electric Boogaloo

ivory geyser
#

They should re add mission scenarios

surreal pelican
surreal pelican
blazing shoal
#

that would be fun for multiplayer

surreal pelican
#

Just to find out Jack took Maria hostage šŸ˜‚

#

-500 and -500 + -300

ivory geyser
#

And pvp would be awesome if it's like siege but more grounded

blazing shoal
#

ive heard about the barricade and raid modes which i also think is interesting

blazing shoal
surreal pelican
ivory geyser
surreal pelican
#

Raid mode should've been on Neon Tomb and Relapse imho

blazing shoal
#

from what i can remember its still tactical and hard but not as much as RoN

surreal pelican
#

And maybe A New America

blazing shoal
surreal pelican
#

I think it's the entire map

blazing shoal
#

oh must be misremembering things from that video about RoN's old stuff

surreal pelican
#

I never played the map variants but yeh

#

Barricaded suspects, Active shooter and Bomb Threat is what we have;

We missing Raid and Hostage Situation (even tho we occasionally have suspects take hostages)

velvet verge
# surreal pelican i didn't hear em coz long ass call and hated programmed pscyhosis

so u know the guy from the vault and who talks on new america? He calls 911 and says to bring "Him" (obviously Judge since we were sent) or he would blow up the building. The 911 operator comments on how hes calling from a federal source line, asking what federal branch he's on, then he replies saying no where is it out reach for him, etc

surreal pelican
#

ouhh

#

Definitely MLO

#

Probs they used stolen federal equipment; since they're failed products of the USIA

blazing shoal
#

imagine night or day variants on some missions too

ivory geyser
#

They should first make nvgs better

#

Cuz they suck a lot

blazing shoal
#

even on twisted nerve i still have to use my flashlight to see the really dark parts lol

#

at least should also have an IR flashlight that is helmet mounted i think

ivory geyser
#

Yup

unreal belfry
#

My friend and I just achieved B grade on Valley of the Dolls, and we didn’t unlock the Hawaiian Polo shirt.
It says ā€œAchieve ā€˜B’ Grade on Valley of the Dollsā€, and unfortunately it’s still remains locked for some reason.

blazing shoal
#

i think you have to S rank it

unreal belfry
surreal pelican
surreal pelican
last dawn
#

the ultrawide nvg but i use it in doors

hexed flame
#

Yo why on new america that flowerman automatically detonates that building even tho i did nothing to him or something

#

Even tho i reported these jammers to toc

rocky plover
#

jammer only gives you 2-3 mins of time to arrest him

hexed flame
#

So i am too slow?

rocky plover
#

clear everything except the courtroom itself before using jammer

wooden tapir
rocky plover
#

dont let him see you though cos he automatically explodes it

rocky plover
#

if he sees you, while jammer is not active he activates it

hexed flame
#

Oh alright

coral lotus
#

Is a shotgun good on the mission a lethal obsession

rocky plover
#

shotguns are op so they're viable everywhere really

#

as long as it's buckshot and not slugs

coral lotus
#

Theres diffrent ammo typs in this game ?

rocky plover
#

yeah AP (FMJ) and JHP then for shotguns buckshot and slugs

coral lotus
#

Im really (stupid-blind)

#

So dumb i dont see things

rocky plover
#

ah its fine, gotta explore a lot on this game to figure things out

coral lotus
#

I have the 357 because its a revolver and im feral for revolvers

blazing shoal
#

do you guys run pepperball for your AI squad when S ranking? I just use beanbag for everyone but ive heard from some people that the AI tends to aim at the head but ive never seen a suspect killed by them like that

#

only i do the accidental headshot lmao

rocky plover
#

was fixed they cant hs with beanbag anymore

#

but best is the flash launcher

blazing shoal
#

oh ok thanks lol

coral lotus
#

Dosent it count as frendly fire tho

blazing shoal
rocky plover
blazing shoal
#

in my playthrough he tanked 4 flashes from an m320, 2 more regular flashes, & a 9-bang but surrendered by bullet to the leg lol

coral lotus
#

I have a question is it better to have green nv or white nv

blazing shoal
#

i think its mostly preference, i dont think any is brighter than the other

nova bobcat
#

Yo I just finished the main story but I feel like its unfinished, is it really unfinished or do I have to complete the DLCs to understand it

rocky plover
coral lotus
nova bobcat
blazing shoal
#

it seems unfinished to me too, and there are more story-related stuff in the DLCs

#

i wish the base games story wont be incomplete by the end of the games support tho

nova bobcat
#

FISA told me to close the container and thats it

#

No ending, only the home invasion DLC

blazing shoal
#

yeahh its where it just ends

#

for now at least

rocky plover
coral lotus
rocky plover
coral lotus
rocky plover
coral lotus
coral lotus
#

I like non tacticle stuff i think its nicer and i just got a idea what if there was an old school dlc with more early tacticle stuff

plain egret
#

Tactical*

urban mural
#

Just S ranked Hunger Strike on standard.

coral tapir
obsidian hornet
#

Guys, am I tripping, or was there not a Weapon Inspect animation in the Boiling Point trailer? Why is the feature not in game yet?

left nexus
final ember
#

''one day a strange man will visit you. don't accept his offer''

  • MLO soldier in A New America
    I'm guessing that refers to some of the members being ex-USIA
left nexus
#

arent they just referring to the green gloves guy

orchid marlin
#

"corrupt data found please verify installation"

#

fuck modding this fucking game

vernal oar
#

Greetings, I have the Official Soundtrack DLC. Does anyone know how to use it?

rocky plover
jolly fractal
left nexus
jolly fractal
#

I’m beer trying ANA S Hard

left nexus
#

for me its the dumbass swat ai who always get themselves killed

#

sells my s rank everytime

jolly fractal
#

The SWAT AI are a 50/50

#

On one attempt at The Spider an Offixer stood and watched him shoot at him, and died

#

But normally it’s the suspects catching me in animations

rocky plover
left nexus
#

on hard i abuse the crouch free lean so i dont die unless im really stupid, but my swat ai have no sense of stealth and just rush in and die

jolly fractal
#

I lost a run of rust belt because the final suspect ambushed me through a doorway when I arrested a suspect, and the SWAT AI were glitched because that mission has the path finding ability of ChatGPT

left nexus
#

i heard a strat to bind crouch and free lean to the same key and its an actual game changer

rocky plover
#

Yea problem is when you wanna crouch only and move while crouching

jolly fractal
#

I just play normally and abuse the wedges

left nexus
jolly fractal
#

The flash launcher is literally the most overpowered weapon in the game

left nexus
#

i prefer beanbag for more ammo but i give swat ai flash launchers

rocky plover
jolly fractal
#

But for most missions with the SWAT AI, two full mags is enough

left nexus
#

i normally run light armor steel front but even that isnt enough for flashes

rocky plover
#

If I'm playing completely solo without AI then yea beanbag it is on certain maps with a lot of suspects, if I'm with AI then everyone gets the flash launcher including myself lol

jolly fractal
rocky plover
#

I use Light armor front only steel as well meta ngl

left nexus
#

the flash launcher just feels cheesy for me

blazing shoal
#

wait you can make the AI main launchers?

jolly fractal
blazing shoal
#

how lol

left nexus
#

i wish you could make the swat ai just shoot suspects with less lethals without yelling for compliance

left nexus
#

just like how you would on your own character

blazing shoal
#

oh what i didnt notice that lmaoo

rocky plover
left nexus
#

armorer and nutrtionist are mandatory on hard mode

#

swat ai die in like 2 bullets its so frustrating

rocky plover
#

True

#

And giving them heavy armor full coverage steel

left nexus
#

yep

rocky plover
#

Cos they have no sense in facing threats

left nexus
#

they should make a special juggernaut armorer specifcally for swat ai

onyx swift
rocky plover
#

Ikr lol, they don't need 11 slots anyways since they get infinite ammo with 1 mag xD

blazing shoal
rocky plover
#

Yup

left nexus
rocky plover
#

Same ^

#

Then I said the same for the back plate 'kinda'

jolly fractal
split verge
#

how do people play this game in this server nowadays, are we tacticool or stil just killing everything

rocky plover
left nexus
#

man i wish i knew they had infinite ammo for longer

#

i always used to give them a normal amount of mags

#

what a waste of slots

jolly fractal
#

If I’m in a good mood I do tactical, clearing and play like actual SWAT. If I’m in a bad mood I’m going no teammates, 12 gauge or LMG and no armour

rocky plover
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Yea used to do that in the beginning as well xD

jolly fractal
rocky plover
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Yea 1 mag is enough for inf mags

left nexus
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unfortunately in hard mode theres NO room for tactical gameplay

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its all about pixel peeking

rocky plover
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They still run out of ammo and reload normally but they have unlimited mags

jolly fractal
split verge
rocky plover
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So I have 16 wedges, 16 c2, 24 grenades between the 4 AI lol

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(not counting the utility on myself)

rocky plover
jolly fractal
jolly fractal
split verge
jolly fractal
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Just wedge every door and clear one by one

rocky plover
jolly fractal
jolly fractal
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It just makes the game relaxing when icba

stoic thistle
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I've noticed that pepperballs can incapacitate people now. Is this new?

rocky plover
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25 from gunfighter is enough and tbh I play vanilla rn

rocky plover
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Arrest them and they will come back to life

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Just like they do with c2

stoic thistle
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No, they're actually incapacitated.

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Even after arrest.

rocky plover
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Lmao wtf

jolly fractal
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The suspects who died of gas came back to life after being cuffed, but still counted as dead

split verge
rocky plover
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Cos with c2 I'm certain they just faked death and were still alive

vernal oar
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It is processed as soon as we receive it.

rocky plover
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Or maybe try finding it from steam, under the dlc and go to local files

vernal oar
rocky plover
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I mean it's just a soundtrack, what benefits do you mean

vernal oar
rocky plover
vernal oar
rocky plover
vernal oar
wide verge
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@rocky plover did you get hard S rank on AnA?

jolly fractal
rocky plover
surreal pelican
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And good luck my brothers. Classes start back again tmr

last dawn
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but im him so we won

rocky plover
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Nice, lethally it ain't that bad, but less lethal is a different story lol

urban mural
rocky plover
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^ also yea

surreal pelican
last dawn
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no i ran out of ammo after that

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is it in the same room as jammer? if so i couldnt use it

surreal pelican
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Nope

blazing shoal
surreal pelican
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Right side behind stairwell

last dawn
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ok i may have missed it
but i still won so its fine

blazing shoal
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oh well back to normal it is

last dawn
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got an A because teammates die

surreal pelican
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I've been doing tours in Helldivers 2

blazing shoal
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david mason vs david beaumont

urban mural
last dawn
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noted will use next time i do this misery of a mission

sudden gorge
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Why do SWAT AI have so much trouble with following orders regarding opening or (especially) closing doors? Just lost a save because my AI didn’t wanna close a door lol

obsidian hornet
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Any way to mute the crowd in the HQ yet? Mods perhaps?

left nexus
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if you arent already try and get an armorer and nutritionist so they dont die immediately

latent socket
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they need to make your electronic hear pro actually work

obsidian hornet
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Can someone explain the difference between Peek, Pie, and Slide?

obsidian hornet
hearty portal
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peak means peak the door pie means eat a pie and slide means slip and slide at a water park

rocky plover
onyx swift
left nexus
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can anyone explain why swat ai sometimes pie a door when i tell them to move and clear? i wouldnt mind if they did it more often but idk how im making them do it

rocky plover
left nexus
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the thing is they dont always do it

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my judge verbally tells them to pie the door as if i did it on command

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it also used to do this on ps5

rocky plover
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Yea idk how it decides to do it or not, I guess it depends if the door is already opened maybe?