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[chilly thorn]

they are functionally the same

[old idol]

i dont recall that much of a difference between them, dk calibers that much

if you're talking about missions like ANA i think its better to use a battle rifle or shotgun

[marble pagoda]

There's a completely undocumented requirement that it be done only in singleplayer? That's kind of annoying...

[old idol]

but you can perfectly be fine with a 5.56 rifle

also how good is the five seven and p90 at taking down armored suspects considering those guns have a unique bullet that was specifically designed for armor penetration

[covert aurora]

it's better to do it single player, i think you can do it in coop but one of you needs to clear it in standard or above

[worn bridge]

Gonna go crazy

A new America, hard mode solo

In the room right before the mayors office, letting it breath, watching an angle

Suspect barges in and 3 taps me

[jolly verge]

Swat ai can't headshot kill with beanbag

[thick dome]

what does lung damage do to your guy in game?

i mean, obv i guess you can die..but does it have any other effects? or just like a dot?

[old idol]

im pretty sure they can? I recall a few incidents where a suspect got killed even though all of us had non lethals and i didnt even shoot the suspect

[chilly thorn]

hurt ow gas

[thick dome]

eh?

[tulip shell]

Is there another DLC in the works? Or is Boiling Point the end of the story?

[old idol]

we dont know and i dont think boiling point is the end

the dlc just came out weeks ago so we might need to wait another few months at best for a new dlc

[worn bridge]

If anything comes out it would only make sense to be before that

The S rank ending seems to be pretty telling to settle the themes the game is going for

[old idol]

void never said anything about boiling point being the last dlc for ready or not, no?

[tulip shell]

But Judge doesn't go to jail in the S rank ending, implying he's still active, right?

[old idol]

even if the story is "over", we still have gaps between 2025 and 2028 that are still unresolved

[worn bridge]

Yes, but it’s meant to be a bookend showing the lengths he goes to to keep his city safe

At least in my view

[old idol]

im wondering if void will try making free dlc again even if the only we've gotten gives us two short missions

i like paid dlc but still would be nice to have free content

[worn bridge]

Sure he’s still active, but it’s kind of like our hero riding off into a sunset but with reverse thematic endings, instead of him winning the day he has to go back to the same job of keeping a city that’s about to fall apart together

[worn bridge]

Los Sueños stories is a good way to get that out there

Some more one offs like that would be neat

[tulip shell]

What if Judge turned bad? Would that make a worthwhile DLC?

[old idol]

would that mean hes the adversary or you still play as him just that d platoon suddenly is evil now

[worn bridge]

Honestly I don’t think that’s the canon ending but if it is, I don’t see how it would be fun to play as Judge without being SWAT in a way that still keeps the themes of the game going

It kind of loses the whole point of being a gritty shooter that shows what cops have to go through on a dramatic level if the cop we see everything through turns “evil”

[old idol]

i doubt we would have a dlc where judge completely changes as a person where he's no longer the d platoon leader

judge is pretty much the protagonist of the game and to have him be taken away just means ready or not suddenly just ends its story unless we get a new protagonist to substitute him

[worn bridge]

That would be the only way it makes sense, and imo it would have to go the “the things cops see change them” route

Just for the sake of consistency

[old idol]

also new dlc of ready or not doesnt necessarily have to follow up boiling point, we still have years between 2025 and 2028 that still dont have any significant missions

main game takes place in 2025, though idk about home invasion and dark waters but i assume it is in 2025/2026

[worn bridge]

Home invasion is right after hide and seek and dark waters is right after that

[old idol]

okay so someone posted the timeline and most of dark waters is set in 2027

[jolly verge]

Nope

[tulip shell]

I haven't really gotten through the full story yet but I'm just thinking from a gameplay standpoint something that could give an excuse for arsenals with weapons that we usually see in the hands of criminals would be cool.

[finite bay]

So you think the events of 3LT and Boiling Point might’ve been the result of Gerard Scott and Elaine Raskin going off the deep end, thus bringing Beaumont into the spotlight and attracting the MLO’s interest?

[old idol]

even then you can still have operations that happen in-between those dlcs where void doesnt have to follow up boiling point

that is to say that new america indeed is the "end" of the story which i dont see a significant amount of evidence to suggest it really is the end

[worn bridge]

Judge has always been their prime target

3 Letter Triad was just the way for the MLO to get Judge to see them, hence the "REMEMBER?" picture at the end of ANA

[old idol]

judge be having many fans bro they should start a fan club or something

(Even though those guys want him dead or to suffer)

[worn bridge]

When you're an emotionless super soldier i guess that's just part of the package lol

[finite bay]

I think more my question was did Raskin and Scott accidentally put Judge on the radar?

[worn bridge]

I think 1) he was already on the radar and 2) Scott knew it

That's why Gerard needed Judge to see

[tulip shell]

What would you guys think about a DLC where things get far worse from Boiling Point, like total anarchy or Martial Law?

[idle burrow]

What do you guys think the suspect reaction time should be

[worn bridge]

I'd personally prefer if we got some more classic SWAT scenarios tbh

[idle burrow]

I'm reading an article on reaction time study in armed suspect encounters and found out that suspects have a 0.38 second reaction time while officers have a 0.39 second react time

[stoic thistle]

It would be cool to have that, with the final level having a twist at the end.

[tulip shell]

Like SWAT 4?

[worn bridge]

That would be awesome lol

[regal fractal]

No idea I just know it needs changing when a suspect catches a glimpse of me standing in the back of a room he passed the doorway of and headshots me lmao

[worn bridge]

I'm of the thought that it would be awesome if the next missions we get are more Los Suenos stories which are little one-shots that explain how the city got so bad but they also don't necessarily need some big bad

[finite bay]

At that point SWAT becomes irrelevant so I don’t think it’d work

[tulip shell]

Well by Martial Law I just mean overwhelming oppression by the government

[stoic thistle]

I wonder if the USIA prefers overt authoritarianism or subtle authoritarianism.

[tulip shell]

The USIA is the CIA right?

[covert aurora]

correct

[worn bridge]

I think it'd be cool to see more of the FISA background to some things, no idea how to execute that but they're a very interesting organization from what we do get to see

[tulip shell]

FISA is the FBI right?

[worn bridge]

yup

[old idol]

if im not mistaken didnt they use real agency names before in ready or not before they rebranded to be fictional

[storm belfry]

For just the FBI and CIA, the ATF is still mentioned in Hide and Seek

[chilly thorn]

Subtle

[storm belfry]

BORTAC does change its name too though its just changes to BDRTAC

[rich plank]

Are they going to make it so ANA doesn't make people want to commit murder? It's such a trash mission

[finite bay]

I wonder if a mission inspired by the ‘72 Munich hostage crisis could be an interesting scenario.

Not necessarily in terms of the geopolitical context, to be clear. But more so the tactical situation at the airport.

[distant beacon]

what do i do if an officer is anxious? it won't let me send him to therapy

[worn bridge]

i like the idea and setting but MAN are those ai brutal

programmed psychosis sucks so bad right now

[rich plank]

Seriously, the NPCs can eat like half a mag but one shot and I'm dead, they all feel like navy seal snipers

[old idol]

iirc stress can increase if lethal force is being used or something

[rich plank]

And as soon as I even touch that middle room with the stairs the entire US government is after me

[old idol]

if the operation is more violent they will get more anxious

[arctic timber]

I finally S ranked A new America

[distant beacon]

I've only been using non lethal, they all went to stressed after the college mission but could only send 3 of them to therapy so the one I couldn't send I just didn't bring on a mission but now he's anxious

[arctic timber]

I took my time. 65 minutes

[worn bridge]

that's on the list for me lol

i had 100% completion before the DLC dropped so i'm using the little free time i have to grind it out

[arctic timber]

Definitely more stressful than greased palms or hide and seek

[worn bridge]

greased palms WAAAASSS the real deal

[arctic timber]

But I feel like a piece of evidence in the collection is missing

[distant beacon]

Just concerned about not getting the hermit achievemnt cause he might leave due to being anxious? or is that not possible?

[arctic timber]

If you do the bad ending, do you get a 4th piece of evidence?

[worn bridge]

they have to be the highest level of stress unless it's a very stressful mission

but if you're doing the hermit, you might as well have a bunch of your guys with non-lethal useful traits so that stress isn't a big issue

[distant beacon]

ah so other than that they're fine and I shouldn't be worried? I haven't been letting anyone get to that point

[worn bridge]

yes, try and get someone that lowers stress (i kind of forgot the name of that role)

[supple scaffold]

guys I just found a tip for a new america, Can I share it here or is there a channel for that

[distant beacon]

I think I've seen that one around I'll have a look thanks

[worn bridge]

love the pfp btw lol

[worn bridge]

you should be all good to share it here

[supple scaffold]

i dont see a channel so I leave it here
in a new america You can shoot the windows on top of some doors to bait enemies, they usually kick the door or just open them for you to shoot 'em

[worn bridge]

oo actually that's ball knowledge

i like this idea

[supple scaffold]

Ikr, that saved me a lot of time

[worn bridge]

right now i'm having to deal with the annoyingness of the solo, there's so much to deal with

my furthest run was only to floor 3 and i got 3 tapped, i'm needing some tips and tricks with that lol

[supple scaffold]

you will have to play the map 2 times in order to get the endings

getting S in this dlc feels like a kick in my private parts

[grim spear]

why does Hunger Strike suck so bad, they just start blasting people immediately

[covert aurora]

do you have the issue where if you enter either way and after sometime during you arresting suspects they start killing people without warning?

[grim spear]

yes

[covert aurora]

wait i may have missed that.... goes and look at patch notes

[grim spear]

its like less than 3 minutes

and with the aks they have it kinda keeps me suppressed

[covert aurora]

Removed a fence to improve navigation.

Fixed suspects failing to seek out civilians to kill.

Fixed missing doorway.```

[cursive minnow]

@slim breach That's normal those are just trailers coming to clean up they're supposed to spawn when you bring order to chaos.

[covert aurora]

i missed that completely

[grim spear]

its such a short timer on it

ill be in the first room and someone upstairs gets capped

[crude prism]

Yeah, aspid found another typo elsewhere and a few other things, but not related to reaction time

[covert aurora]

it's like 1min to like 1:30

[grim spear]

so light armor then

[covert aurora]

i would say go from the side entrance rotary flash launcher flash (if you have it)the suspects at the start keep moving up stairs have the ai arrest for you

[versed jasper]

thankgodi did that before the update then, mirage still wasn't fun

[covert aurora]

Mirage at sea and elephant never had an issue

at least for me

[versed jasper]

were you also annoyed that you had to get 100% because of new achievements

wow didn't know, i play pc

damn that sucks

it really is, just wish i bought the supporter edition when i had the chance

i saved that achievement till last

yup took me like 4 days after getting everything else but i did

[covert aurora]

i can't figure out my eyes burn

[versed jasper]

the pier, just seemed the easiest to me with the gas

don't know if it works with the swats cs gas or not

[covert aurora]

@slim breach that's trailers

that's completely normal for quickplay

[versed jasper]

i did but i don't know wheather you had to or not, i also didn't have a gas mask incase that helps

[grim spear]

that flash launcher is a game changer

just s ranked in 3 mins

[covert aurora]

@grim spear aaaay!

[thick dome]

yes, it is

[covert aurora]

good to hear!

[versed jasper]

i restarted until 3 suspects spawned into the same room, i did it around the arcade

[past stratus]

when i use m320 long tac flash launcher in ANA i save one for the final room so i dont accidentally kill the VIP suspect

[versed jasper]

it unlocked immediately for me

[grim spear]

never played stolen valor, how is it?

[versed jasper]

i found it a lot like twisted nerve, enjoyed it a lot because of that

[past stratus]

i've had 5 in the arcade

[versed jasper]

my achievement showing up immediately could also not be every case but it should

[past stratus]

yep

no

thank GOD i was trying to s rank with the flash primary launcher

otherwise i would've been fucked

[covert aurora]

@versed jasper does your screen need to be red? or as soon as the gas comes out?

[versed jasper]

i started shooting after i took the first hit from the gas

[covert aurora]

got it

[past stratus]

i looked at the new mod.io mods for ready or not.

One of them is literally just called "Mods"

[worn bridge]

i feel like the MKV might be good for that achievement

that thing puts people DOWN

[versed jasper]

i just use nexus, mod.io i never truste

[past stratus]

i use nexus as well

[versed jasper]

i love the animation when you first take it out during a mission

[past stratus]

i was installing no mercy for terrorists

[worn bridge]

i've been using that and slugs as my main "kill everybody" for ANA

[past stratus]

and i saw it and that it was funny

[versed jasper]

i just use gun, clothing, and map mods

[worn bridge]

although realistically it probably makes more sense to just use buckshot since i have the .50 rounds

[past stratus]

i cannot live without nmft

because i play like rambo

[iron willow]

You do you man, but you're really bragging over nothing special

[worn bridge]

i don't think he's bragging 😭

[iron willow]

You're playing the game that's not a shooting gallery like it's a shooting gallery

[versed jasper]

i wouldn't take that as bragging

[worn bridge]

i think he was just trying to be silly man 💔

[past stratus]

who

[versed jasper]

oops

[worn bridge]

no i mean i agree with you

[past stratus]

what are we talking about

[versed jasper]

idk, mods?

[worn bridge]

grydir called you out for no reason lol

[past stratus]

did you just assume my gender angry emoji angry emoji

[worn bridge]

😭

[versed jasper]

😠

[worn bridge]

respectfully he is a gender neutral term to me lmao

i use that until i know somebody 💀

same for "guy"

[past stratus]

what even is the point of the trpl

its absolutely useless

[versed jasper]

same i do use he as a term for anyone

[past stratus]

i do the same thing too im not innocent

[versed jasper]

the what?

[past stratus]

proving my point

[worn bridge]

the pepper ball shooter thing

[past stratus]

the non-lethal pistol

[versed jasper]

nah i'm just really bad at words when their shortened

[past stratus]

its quite literally called the TRPL

[winter pendant]

could someone send me a link to that table with all the damages and armor ratings? idk if it's been updated for boiling point but if it is, I'd really like to see it

[versed jasper]

oh yeah their useless, i just use the beanbag

[worn bridge]

normal game: normal damage
boiling point: if you get hit you are GONE

[worn bridge]

flashbang launcher feels like a geneva convention violation but it's way more effective

[past stratus]

there are only 3-4 useful non-lethal things anymore

VPL
Bean Bag
Launchers

[versed jasper]

i never got into using the grenade laucher

[past stratus]

i can finally say launchers now that they fixed pepperball and gas

[worn bridge]

i grab one whenever i'm fed up with a mission and just want to make everyone fear me

that or the SCAR

[winter pendant]

mainly looking to see whether rifle calibers make much difference against MLO, like whether 5.56, .300, or 7.62 really would make a given suspect go down/lose armor in more or less hits

[versed jasper]

after i s rank a mission i go int with a .50 cal and blow a hole through anyone and everyone

[worn bridge]

personally ive found the MKV and shotguns to be very effective

[past stratus]

we can all agree the snubnose is useless right

for .357 magnum

[versed jasper]

i just don't use it cause i like the long barrel

[worn bridge]

i don't want small iron i want big iron

[past stratus]

its not useful anywho, it just reduces muzzle flash and uppers your recoil

[winter pendant]

mozambique with .300 is feeling reasonably effective but I'm wondering if longer barrel 5.56 would be as good or better, maybe with less recoil

[fathom hill]

Does anyone know why I don't have the mk-v?

[versed jasper]

i never really focused on what attachments do, i just use what i think looks cool

[past stratus]

void said fuck this guy in particular

[fathom hill]

What

[wintry barn]

I cant believe i got the carat watch

Finally 😭✨

[worn bridge]

if you're gonna go for a rifle, i highly reccomend a 5.56 gun, put that thang on full auto and just look for the ANA specific ammo boxes

[worn bridge]

lol nice dude

[past stratus]

thats fair

i personally, no matter what, ALWAYS use holosight

[winter pendant]

you mean like next to the trigger tablet thingy? if you're using 5.56 you can grab the mags?

[versed jasper]

gotta go in with a full auto glock with a shield, just shoot at the roof

[worn bridge]

look up a video, i forget what they exactly look like but they spawn up on the fourth floor before you go into the courtroom

they literally just look like big ammo crates

[winter pendant]

I've been mousing over them but they haven't done anything - that said, I've been only running .300's

[worn bridge]

i say 5.56 because those guns put a lot of metal down range fast

[worn bridge]

it should work for any gun to my knowledge

[grim spear]

greased palms on hard is hell

[versed jasper]

greased palms in general is not fun on any difficulty

[grim spear]

yeah the standard S sucked

im just trying to get all missions on hard no rank requirement

doing them in order too so this one is blocking me

[versed jasper]

if i tried to s rank it now, i would just abuse the 9bangers

oh didn't read the no rank requirment, yeah still abuse the 9bangers

[coral tapir]

The thugs fr have superhuman sight brah

[cedar mulch]

Interestingly, the man who led them down the path of radicalisation was a criminal who had been in and out of prison since his teenage years

Both the cartel and the human traffickers work for the Spider Organisation. The cartel controls the car dealerships, whilst the Mafia controls the ports.

Previously, most of the dialogue in car dealership map was in Russian. Since DLC3, it has been predominantly in Spanish.

[thick dome]

the bomber man in the last mission, can you incap him then disarm or does he have to be regular arrested??

[paper topaz]

does anyone have an image of the gas mask suspect in A new America

[cedar mulch]

This has to do with the background setting. Los Locos is a faction of the Sonoran Cartel; they are so powerful that they have carried out massacres targeting law enforcement officers and senior officials, resulting in a large number of disappearances.

[finite bay]

Okay wild fucking idea: a DLC with missions that actually lean into some of the more supernatural/horror themes already seen in the game. Maybe something like that X-Files/Cops crossover episode.

[thick dome]

he's got like some big flower looking mask on..and his clothes are lighter brown compared to the other mercs

[paper topaz]

I know that, I'm trying to compare the image with another to someone else; the character design is very similar to the Chaos Insurgency agents in SCP:SL

[nova plume]

The last civillian in any dark waters mission:

https://tenor.com/jRMtyQYy36D.gif

Bruh

[finite bay]

Pfffft it really doesn’t want to cooperate

[nova plume]

Are gifs banned?

https://tenor.com/jRMtyQYy36D.gif

Looks to be

[blissful jolt]

i got a feeling my whole team is going to resign after this greased palms

shit

[nova plume]

Greased palms aint that bad

3 letter triad is agruably the worst imo

[blissful jolt]

do yk if being put on leave due to a intervention voids the ruined dev watch

cause 2 of my officers got that

[nova plume]

Oh man

Nah i dont but thats shitty

[blissful jolt]

they were all content before the mission 💔

[nova plume]

Jesus christ i realised you cant even react to posts wtf is this server 🥀

[blissful jolt]

should i swap them off non lethal guns

i thought that would help them be happy

im abt to do valley of the dolls

[nova plume]

Prob. Or maybe give them c2 or something

[flint minnow]

Trying to make a good Non lethal build for myself,, going shotgun, fiveseven, mirror gun, light armour steel / front, 5 bean bag clips, 1 AP clip, 2 9 bangs, 3 flash bangs, 1 CS, 1C2

[storm belfry]

You can't post gifs unless you got Sergeant or Mod (same with reactions)

[storm belfry]

There's been many occasions where its a good thing

[paper topaz]

they locked down everything

[storm belfry]

A necessary sacrifice

[finite bay]

Kinda wish the MGL LTL had a blast ball/stinger variant. It’d be so hilariously broken.

[blissful jolt]

gg its over for valley of the dolls

therapy is full ik someone will resign

oh hey nobody resigned

i just gotta s rank gas station ig

[quasi coral]

Deadass, though it is DLC so I wouldn't argue that unless the opposing has the DLC as well

3 Letter genuinely makes me want to open a wired door

But I heard about how hard the Boiling Point levels are, oh boy I don't think I'll be very happy

[still pond]

Does anyone know what the AI reaction speed on hard for a standard mission is? Like for gas station or something?

[blissful jolt]

every mission i do im terrified of my team resigning

[still pond]

my team tries to run around the entire building to breach a door. they do that ONCE and they're effectively dead to me instantly

[blissful jolt]

so you just tell them to stand in 1 area and solo?

[still pond]

Nah I typically have them clear areas for me cause console reaction speeds are AWFUL

But they still try to walk across the building to clear the door in front of them so as soon as we end I typically fire them LMAO

[blissful jolt]

andd i just messed up the gas station s rank cause a hostage died

[covert aurora]

rip

[still pond]

rip

[blissful jolt]

somehow they didnt get stressed

do rust belt enemies wear armor or not
i cant remember

[coral tapir]

So.... is C2's incapacitation not stripping your S Rank off or something? Cause in Twisted Nerves I C2'd a door and got the achievement from hitting someone with it while doing S Rank for jokes and I still got S.

[lime kernel]

C2 isn't very lethal, so you got S rank

[lime kernel]

It throws unconscious, but nothing more

unless you, like, severely damaged the suspect

[vestal mauve]

Huzzah got the secret ending
Now to get S Rank on A New America

[still pond]

I repeat this question

[idle burrow]

I got kicked out of my own friends session for not being able to connect to epic games services lmao

[smoky cedar]

Pretty fast

[still pond]

I was looking for a specific number rather than just "fast" cause i'm trying to compare stuff

[lost inlet]

0.5ms.

[still pond]

50ms was just for ANA wasn't it? Or am I just schizo?

[lost inlet]

Every suspect on hard.

[azure night]

Whats the hardest achievment?

[still pond]

Oh lovely. You know the speeds for suspects on the other difficulties too by chance?

Yeah I saw the post that the one dude made and assumed it was for ANA

[mint imp]

the stupid ai just walked around a hostage at gun point and let them get shot before the two officers got shot and killed by the same gunman while clearing this room. on all gods burn

[still pond]

SkebbZ (dev for the no crack mod) made some comment somewhere about the reaction speed being unfair

okay so the fact I have any hard mode completions while using a controller is insane got it

[lost inlet]

No wait, on hard is 50ms. Fastest on standard is 100ms.

[still pond]

Yeah I tried plugging in a keyboard and mouse and then promptly went back cause I didnt wanna re-learn the controls

[still pond]

okay thats insane

[lost inlet]

Yep, anti fun difficulty.

[still pond]

and my team was over here cracking jokes cause I didnt want to do hard mode SMH

[lost inlet]

I mean sure, failing with friends is more bearable than failing by yourself.

But not anyone have the same tolerance for failures.

[still pond]

it stopped being fun after the 12th instant death on carriers of the vine

[surreal pelican]

Man.. My Eyes, It Burns is buggy AF still

Tip: For fourth floor, use a fuck ton of throwables and abuse the flashlight

[bitter sail]

yo

[idle burrow]

Don't you guys hate it when you have a stupid fucking Mirrorgun that can't see through every barricade

[bitter sail]

anyone down for s on a new a america

[surreal pelican]

I replaced my stingers with M67s

[warm gate]

I spam cs gas and 9 bangs in that court room tbh

[surreal pelican]

I've never brought CS on the new DLC missions

[sage portal]

I love it when ur teammates full mag dump you!!!

[warm gate]

It puts down triggerman other than spamming flashes in the gasmask dudes eyes

[somber wolf]

imagine that, but you standing in front of them with a shield and shouting at them

[eternal drum]

weird, i was told you only get 5pts when reporting incapped as opposed to 30 when you arrest suspects

[surreal pelican]

C2 makes perps go "unconscious" state via state of incap, but they'll get up after a minute or two unscathed. I think civs just plain get knocked out without recovering (also incap but perma state iirc)

Especially if they are right behind the door or blast area

[eternal drum]

interesting. i recall killing suspects with c2 but i think i know why lol

[surreal pelican]

How come?

I love me my C2s. Highest morale remover + stun unconscious whoever is unlucky to be behind

Tho I don't dare use it on my S runs coz fear of civ getting caught behind the blast radius. Iirc they never get up and out of incap state compared to suspects

[lime kernel]

You see, some suspects fake their unconscious state

Exactly in your situation... Well, they're go unconscious from explosion, but not lethal. They're recovering, and then they're like arrested suspects (like if you'd hit them with beanbag and arrest them)

[eternal drum]

i havent knocked one out with a beanbag before, but good to know!

[eternal drum]

probably bc they open the door before i detonate it

i mean thats me not using it as intended ofc, or rather a counter to breachers or pushers

[iron willow]

Curious, is it actually possible to arrest/kill flowerboy without him detonating without the jammer

[hoary igloo]

@sturdy moss what shirt and pants were used in that pic you posted?

[tired wigeon]

Im so close to getting the s rank on a new america it pains me

Its always after I secure the stsircase

Oh, or they trigger their own gas and kill themselves or a civilian they tied

[sturdy moss]

Atlas Pro Pants, And Atlas Pro Shirt Btw! Sorry for late response.

[hoary igloo]

all good, preciate it

[tired wigeon]

Yall got any ways to save the em when they trigger their own gas with cuffed in aoe

[sturdy moss]

Nah bro I'm struggling with 3 Letter Triad right now lol

[tired wigeon]

Imma crash out man, I had just finished disarming the dude when all the other dudes in the room decided nah to surrender cause apparently cuffing is just below my officers

Also, just running pure 40mm stun launcher as primary for squad seems pretty viable with ai, gets em to be able to handle groups

Aaaand they just gunned one of their own guys

[tawdry crag]

Is the suspect from 23mpbs based on Bashurverse

mbps*

[tired wigeon]

Also, as a run redeeming, if you fail your s rank run but have already cuffed detonator dude, get yourself the bad guy achievement and blow it up

[cedar mulch]

Which factions can the UPF defeat? Are they among the weakest?

[thick orchid]

You can also get the handcuff watch thingy and the Devil tattoo if you find something during the cutscene

[tawdry crag]

probably the gangsters in 23mbps & thank you come again and the tweakers

[hollow veldt]

anyone got any tips for beating hide and seek on hard? shits so awful

[arctic pumice]

@remote sundial

[signal magnet]

ngl twisted nerve is hard asf

[idle burrow]

🤓 Also uhh it's 23 MB/s since mbps = megabits per second 🤓

[winged python]

I just beat ANA on solo thinking I’d get the achievement for me to notice it’s on Hard mode… Took me like 85 minutes…

[surreal pelican]

Isn't that the atlas flight suit? Or am I tripping

[novel halo]

you're tripping

Or wait hold on

Nope you're tripping, it's phoenix flight suit

[wind gyro]

@devout mist fire art

[cedar mulch]

It seems the UPF really is the weakest terrorist organisation

[devout mist]

Ty!!!

[lost pawn]

Gotta love it when you shoot an unarmored suspect at point blank with buckshot and they dont even react to it at all

[wind gyro]

just shoot them in the head

[rocky plover]

i know the feeling, took days of retries lol

[dim oak]

we need an achievement relating to the Mark V

[warm gate]

Really goofy question is there a mod that puts channing tatums voice in ready or not?

[chilly swan]

why would they leave the CCTV's unattended?

[chilly swan]

this is a very important question

[rocky plover]

so they can see you - "to watch the watchers"

[warm gate]

Idk id find it funny for a character to be channing tatum that just quotes his own movies

[bitter mason]

Aura

[surreal pelican]

But shouldn't there be another central CCTV area? If they're watching us

[rocky plover]

it's from the same system

[warm gate]

Nah they got aimbot they dont need cctv

[rocky plover]

true

[glass torrent]

did they change the standard difficultys name to realism

[bitter mason]

No
ive not noticed if they have

Should just be casual standard and hard like before no?

[rocky plover]

standard was always the real mode

[glass torrent]

yeah it says realism

check screenshots

[mental fractal]

Is standard the most realistic eh?

[short briar]

I prepared for the new America more than for the final exam 🥀

Ah, ready or not

[chilly swan]

realism seems like a very inaccurate way to describe that mode

[rocky plover]

yep

[chilly swan]

(from a person who is playing on realism mode rn)

[rocky plover]

interesting, can't check on mine, as mine all say hard, since it overrites it

[mental fractal]

So then whats hard

[rocky plover]

god AI tuned to very unrealistic, requires non tactical approach (cheese mode)

[mental fractal]

Gotchu, you wanna run some ron?

[rocky plover]

currently doing A New America for my hard S (last one that I need for all hard S)

[mental fractal]

I’d be down but I wouldn’t wanna fuck it up, I’m not to familiar with non lethal strats tbh

Especially on New America

[rocky plover]

I mean i've fucked it up multiple times, this map on hard is madness lol

programmed psychosis moment which took like days of restarts

[mental fractal]

How many you got?

[rocky plover]

what do you mean? amount of restarts?

[mental fractal]

People, sorry

[somber monolith]

your doing a hard S for that

you might be nuts i gave up on hard sing it and just did like a hard b

[rocky plover]

oh, nothing rn, flying solo, but had assembled a team of another 2 guys that we're still trying to figure out a time that will work out for all of us lol

[mental fractal]

Ill hop on now if you want bro

[rocky plover]

yeah because it's the last map from all the maps that I need S on hard and my OCD is kicking in lol

[rocky plover]

sure @surreal pelican you down to join as well?

[surreal pelican]

Can’t join rn, sorry gang

[rocky plover]

aight

@floral peak what about you?

[mental fractal]

U got a vc in mind?

[rocky plover]

nope, not currently at least

[mental fractal]

VC 1?

US

[rocky plover]

👍 joined, gimme a sec cos im on speakers rn, lemme get headset

[mental fractal]

👍🏼

[maiden sparrow]

I don't know if this is just me, but I think the weapon flashlights need some work. They are far to dim in my opinion

[mental fractal]

Strobe lights could be a cool feature

[mental fractal]

U got ur headset? Ion wanna talk if its gon be loud through ur speakers

[maiden sparrow]

Possibly
One of my friends pointed out that one of the flashlights are in Grey Zone Warfare and it is far better than the one in RoN

[rocky plover]

yep

[summer dagger]

anyone know how to fix connection to the host timed out, i have tried syncing time and reinstalling the game and it still don’t work

[floral peak]

Not home rn, gonna be back home in like ~4 hours

[rocky plover]

Ok

[craggy fable]

Why does it take so long to connect to the epic game services

[maiden sparrow]

The ai team mates need more work, they have constantly been getting in my way during campaign runs and blocking up doors

[eternal drum]

be aware that flashlights and suppressors are pretty buggy rn. depends what weapon, but you can see flickering shadows in the way of the flashlight ray

[chilly swan]

yeah i've had them several times just run into my line of fire for seemingly no useful reason

at first im like "oh right you have to strategically place them so that they're covering you from a good angle"

and then they get shwacked by an MLO member while taking 3-5 business days to react

[eternal drum]

sometimes they just wont return fire, especially if they're stacked. stacking is really bad to use if you want them to do any sort of cover.

[chilly swan]

haha yeah normally its when my boys are falling in behind me

[maiden sparrow]

Indeed, then I was just now peeking a door...the team mates walks up and opens it, and I'm like "I wasn't done yet you moron"

[chilly swan]

my paternal instinct takes over on A New America and part of me dies with each officer I lose

[eternal drum]

thats a new one. were they beside the door or smth?

[maiden sparrow]

Or you try and take a shot but can't cause they are all in front of you, or try to fall back but can't cause they are blocking the path behind you. It's super frustrating

[chilly swan]

only issue is, I neglect to utilise them at all in hard mode because they're so vulnerable all the time. So when I'm trying to retreat back into a doorway they're like "in the way, chief"

"YES I KNOW YOU ARE IN THE WAY SON PLEASE MOVE I'M ABOUT TO DIE"

[maiden sparrow]

Yup, exactly

[chilly swan]

i love them but love is pain

[eternal drum]

yeah i very seldom keep them behind me. you can form them in a wedge which is probably better but only good for having them out of the way. might as well just use Move To command a bunch.

[chilly swan]

yer I wanna try more tactics with them to see how far I can push it

[summer plover]

3:09 A+ on gas station lets go

[chilly swan]

they sent the SAS to the gas station i see

[eternal drum]

its... a lot of working around and understanding what makes them work and what doesnt

[chilly swan]

i really like that they have more character in ANA but now I want more personable interactions like that lol

[vestal trout]

can someone tell me how the taser was nerfed because of LSS? i can't find any mention of it in patch notes

[chilly swan]

I've heard the stupid CCTV line so many times and I still love it

[eternal drum]

oh yeah, you can get their individual dialogue if you use one of those character voices in mp too

[vestal trout]

i cant find out what has been nerfed about it

[summer plover]

Desperate times call for desperate measures

[chilly swan]

i've unintentionally started to use slugs as less lethal against the MLO

[eternal drum]

i dont think taser has been nerfed, its just a chance that it doesnt work when it connects

[eternal drum]

they saw the calico needed to be returned to ian mcallum

[bitter mason]

Less range now i think

[vestal trout]

mmm i see

[tawdry crag]

I mean only rivalry by the MLO in terms of reach given they managed to take over a big ass oil rig and attack and almost kill the owner of what I’m assuming is one of the largest oil companies in the United States

I don’t think any other faction could’ve done that realistically

[vestal trout]

i saw CS Gas doesnt work againtst MLO, what about pepperball?

[eternal drum]

if their aggro is triggered i dont even think it affects them. not that it is wise to be in their line of fire for more than a second and pepperballs take longer than that for effects to even work

[keen stratus]

What will happen to judge after this

[summer plover]

It truly is a wonder how they ended up with so many of them

[eternal drum]

and why we cant use them. they did have a police model, after all

[lime kernel]

damn

i'm stuck at relapse tightly

[tardy oxide]

What difficulty are you playing on?

[lime kernel]

Hard

My best try is when i arrested everyone, but civvie with a deadman vest didn't surrendered

i didn't got it how should i pull her out from corner, cuz i didn't saw the option defuse the vest, and well... she exploded after i hit the vest with beanbag

Now i'm trying to pass this shit on hard, but on lethal weapons

[tardy oxide]

LOL fly high 🕊️

[lime kernel]

and man i love getting Unauthorized use of deadly force there

we certainly won't talk about the fact that they're killed zillion bazillion people, but for some reason, 1 bullet in the head is still a lawbreak

protocols are sometimes evil.

[tardy oxide]

When it comes to civilians I typically muzzle thump them when they don't go down after the first command

[tardy oxide]

Do you shoot suspects the moment you see them?

[floral peak]

Ngl that kind of stupid, why would you shoot bomb vest

[tardy oxide]

A little bit of confetti has never hurt anyone

[lime kernel]

Man, she didn't behaved and i was in despair

Yelling didn't helped, beanbag didn't helped, pepper didn't worked, Stinger didn't, M320 didn't either

[floral peak]

That’s really weird, she just was hiding?

[lime kernel]

nope, i was yelling at her, and Judge was saying only "Reach for the sky" or smth like this, but not "Come out with hands up"

It's old try, but man i'm so fucking sad about it

[floral peak]

If want, I can help later with this, we can do even Hard S

[lime kernel]

Because she exploded, i got C

But i didn't finished the misson, so... Get fucked

[lime kernel]

thanks for offer

though, my buddy wanted pass old missions on hard...

wanna be his guide or smth like this

[floral peak]

I can actually play with y’all too, any mission

[lime kernel]

he struggle with english

i'm slightly better at it, but nothing fancy

but thanks for offer

[keen rover]

idk why the team AI opens the door fully to toss flashbang, CS gas etc. realistically, you'd open the door halfway or quarter of the way to toss it either at the door to deflect off it or a wall to deflect off that

[lime kernel]

idk why AI team open double doors fully

like bro

open one, throw a stinger, and hop on, why you need open all...

[keen rover]

playing with the bots is mental gymnastics

not even open one, just open it slightly by bumping into the door, toss it in, close the door, then breach

[cedar mulch]

Which is stronger: the Farm cult or UPF?

[keen rover]

there's not really much of a reason to swing the door open as opposed to opening it inch by inch by pushing into it

[desert vapor]

Pretty sure it's the upf

I think. Don't take my word for it

[cedar mulch]

I don’t think the Farm Cult stands a chance against the car dealership and Amos Voll’s villa. There’s just too great a disparity in their strength.

[desert vapor]

The Cultists have stronger weapons i think, like the FAL

[surreal pelican]

Hows the slugs? I never used em

[desert vapor]

Plus Raskin is pretty dangerous too

[cedar mulch]

Car dealers stock the G3A3 and the AK103, amongst others

[surreal pelican]

Id say on par with MLO, or at least second tier. Same weaponry they carry

iirc MLO is just full G3s

They don't play

[cedar mulch]

Currently, MLO only has the FAL and the M16.

[surreal pelican]

oh, shit got them mixed

[jolly owl]

Ngl I like to assume the public knows Judge in lore (judging by the fuck cops graffiti in front of his apartment)

[cedar mulch]

Raskin on her alone won’t do much good. There are far more car dealers, whereas the cult has no more than 15 members at present.

[desert vapor]

Man, I didn't know car dealers were so dangerous

Gotta be careful next time I buy one. Don't wanna get jumped

[cedar mulch]

Most of them were cartel members. They shot an entire police squad dead.

[pseudo hull]

using gas over flashbangs kinda sucks

[desert vapor]

Yeah I know the lore. I think they could be a bit more dangerous then the cultists maybe. Tho they are pretty equal in threat level and aimbot bs

[keen rover]

you have money to buy a car in this economy?!

gas prices alone will make you bankrupt

[desert vapor]

I ain't American

[chilly swan]

it delivers justice upon the hard AI bots

[coral tapir]

Now what I'm about to reply isn't about firepower but it's more of the funny fact that G3A3 sometimes got referred to as G36C.

In the same mission.

[upper mauve]

hi guys! quick question: do completions in commander mode count towards the "S rank xyz mission" achievement?

i figure they do, but i just want to be sure before i get to the dlcs in commander mode

[desert vapor]

Yes

[upper mauve]

thanks! should hopefully make ANA much easier with some of the team perk thingys

[desert vapor]

Nothing makes ANA easy...except the flash launcher

Thr flash launcher makes anything easy

[tame steeple]

doesnt necessarily have to be that but just rhe fact that they know hes A cop

[cedar mulch]

If Los Locos send in the Narcos elite assassins, the cult will be finished for good. They have an accuracy bonus, thicker armour and superior firepower.

[tame steeple]

just that hes simply employed in the lspd

[upper mauve]

i mean, 4 ai teammates, all with flash launchers and increased stun durations will definitely make it easier than my original strategy of just rawdogging it haha

[jolly owl]

||I think it wouldn't be far fetched too that the MLO is the reason why Judge is still alive (Alot of the suspects you arrest tend to promise revenge, maybe the MLO did something to ensure Judge stayed safe?)||

[desert vapor]

Don't pick riot controll

It's dogwater

[hexed oyster]

whats the best dlc?

[desert vapor]

Boiling Point in my humble opinion

Except that using the wand is laggy now

Which bothers me more then it should

[hexed oyster]

cant get boiling point, but in between home invasion and dark waters whats the better one?

[desert vapor]

I like dark waters because 3 letter triad

[coral tapir]

Me too but because of Leviathan.

[cedar mulch]

Suppose 3LT introduced a faction warfare system where pirates and PMCs could fight each other—wouldn’t that be better?

[upper mauve]

ah, is it bugged or smth? what other ones would you recommend?

[desert vapor]

I hate leviathan because I hate having to look 10 hours for civilians

[cedar mulch]

This also fits the story

[rocky plover]

negotiator and pacifier are the only ones i recommend for S ranks

armorer and nutritionist also good but i prefer those for lethal runs

[desert vapor]

No, but it's still bad. Run 1 armorer, 1 nutritionist, and 2 negotiators

[desert vapor]

Pacifier is unnecessary for flash launcher

[hexed oyster]

thanks i think ill buy the game along with dark waters

[rocky plover]

eh they dont always go down with 1 shot so it's still good

[desert vapor]

That is so extremely rare its not worth is sacrificing an armorer, nutritionist or negotiators

[rocky plover]

quite common on hard but on standard ye not so much

[desert vapor]

Yeah but we're talking about standard, not hard. Don't know why you'd be going for S rank achievements on hard

[rocky plover]

i only have 1 left for hard S xD

but ye i get what you mean

it's just i like 2 negotiators and 2 pacifiers for S
and 1 nutritionist, 1 armorer, 2 veterans for lethal

but a hybrid of the above is also good (1 armorer, 1 nutritionist and 2 negotiators)

[desert vapor]

I take negotiators because officers get stressed so often. Plus if they immediately surrender no risk of officers dying or wasting ammo

[rocky plover]

true all valid points

[surreal pelican]

Pacifier and negotiator

[surreal pelican]

Agreed

[surreal pelican]

Officers have infinite ammo

[upper mauve]

oh thats neat

[desert vapor]

I'm not to sure about that one...

Otherwise why would you have to give them ammo🤨

[rocky plover]

1 mag gives them infinite mags xD

idk ask void with their spaghetti coding

[desert vapor]

What?

You're joking

[wide verge]

good day everyone

[desert vapor]

G'day

[wide verge]

the 1 mag giving unlimited ammo thing could 1. intended to give swat ai more slots for flashes, whatever else or 2. an oversight (I believe thats it) or 3. a bug

[desert vapor]

Pretty sure it's a bug if that's the case

[rocky plover]

ye i think it's 2, and was never fixed

[wide verge]

I'm actually ok with it if they leave it like that. Not exactly realistic but you can stack up swat ai with all kinds of grenades and wedges

then again, I gave them 5 primary mags and 2 secondary mags until like 3 days ago and was fine

[rocky plover]

ye thats what i do

and funny thing since flash launcher has 6 free shots by default you can give them 0 slots for it and they would still have inf ammo for it

[wide verge]

I screwed myself a few times reloading the flash launcher while having 3-4 flashes left

[rocky plover]

happened to me a couple times when I wanna switch back to it and press 1 twice lol

[upper mauve]

do you guys think judge fws phil collins

[hollow finch]

this turned out to be wrong

completed 2 runs with helmets, didnt pop

then thrice in a row it worked (had to rerun with several friends) without helmet equipped

[rocky plover]

Really? It says without armor, shield, grenades..

[hollow finch]

i would assume it classes helmets as armor

[rocky plover]

I guess a helmet is considered armor then but off duty achievement specified it

Complete gas station without armor and a helmet

......

You sure you were on hard? I don't remember for certain but I don't think I removed my helmet

[hollow finch]

yes, 100%

[rocky plover]

I just removed my armor (chose no armor 9 slots) and let AI do everything and it worked

But I forgot if I actually removed the helmet so can't be certain

[rocky plover]

Hmm good to know

[hollow finch]

in fairness theres more than one vague/buggy achievement

the rust belt .357 one is also a shitshow for example

[rocky plover]

Yeah true, I let the AI do everything on that one as well with the occasional me firing sometimes (just the revolver)

[mortal geode]

wazzup

[regal iris]

Do teammate traits only work when they're part of the squad?

[mortal geode]

yes

[regal iris]

Ok thanks

[mortal geode]

i'm playing ANA with randoms, bro they restart everytime when someone dies

[old idol]

the map isnt that much easier on solo either, the enemies are very aggressive on this map and they even have body armor

[distant beacon]

If I run the paramedic perk and I'm going for the hermit achievement and an officer goes down but is saved by the paramedic officer does that negate the achievement?

[rocky plover]

It doesn't save the achievement

[worldly ridge]

I wasn't aware there's a revive mechanic for suspects lmao.

shoot suspect in the head with 9mm (unarmored, gangster)
collapses
look away for a reload
guy's up and reloading

[jolly verge]

1-3 incapacitated officers from a single mission invalidate The Hermit
All 4 incapacitated officers from a single mission don't invalidate it

[sage portal]

I'm trying to S Tier Hide and Seek!

[knotty storm]

get grenade launcher and 10 grenades for it

[rocky plover]

Good luck!

[knotty storm]

and take m320

[bitter mason]

Fake death

[worldly ridge]

No. it was a clean headshot

[bitter mason]

Ive had a few cases where a suspect manages to survive a headshot by pistol rounds but very rarely
Still probably faked his death after being hit

[worldly ridge]

It's very funny blasting someone's dome with a 9mm only for them to get back up because it didn't have enough dmg

Baldness protects

[bitter mason]

Was it like square in his face or a sort of grazing shot
Not sure if it makes a difference or not

[worldly ridge]

Straight into the brain

[bitter mason]

Not much brain to hit clearly

[worldly ridge]

Must've been the case
"I didn't hit her vitals" moment

[bitter mason]

Impressive that they managed to get back up after a brain injury lol

[jolly owl]

Leon Kennedy after shooting a zombie in it's weak spots moment

[neon grail]

i need help. every time i try to not kill anyone the bots shoot em

can i turn em off or smth

[worldly ridge]

Also love the civilian AI.
"This guy just blased the arm off this guy and he asked me to surrender. Better slowly walk away. He asked again? Better sprint towards the gun next to the dead suspect"

Anyway, 10ga solved it, but ToC wasn't happy for some reason

[worldly ridge]

Use the Hold command on spawn.

They won't follow you

Or give them non-lethal weapons only

[pseudo hull]

is it worth doing commander for im too old for this

not being able to choose my teammates loadouts kinda sucks

[hollow finch]

you can still do that though..

[pseudo hull]

in quickplay?

i think i forgot to check the loadout for them

oh yeah you can

[tired wigeon]

I qdore when the ai decides restraining is a waste of time and the room that was surrendered gets back up

[pseudo hull]

one of the most annoying bugs ever

[tired wigeon]

That and the whole door right next to me just flew open, I need to look at the door I wedged 2 seconds ago mentality they got makes me think I'd rarher 100% the achievements in armored core 6 again

[craggy fable]

are the epic services for RoN down or something?

[marsh dune]

Should be able to choose what kind of lobby you want to search for

So tired of trying to find people for S rank

[floral peak]

#🔎looking-for-players

[marsh dune]

Don't want to talk lol

[craggy fable]

you can put "no mic"

[mortal geode]

so just say no mic

[marsh dune]

Ait

[craggy fable]

most people will just use text chat or if they do talk, you can just use the ingame commands to respond or type back

thats what i do, lol

[pseudo hull]

why are shotguns so good against armored people

[craggy fable]

cause shotgun go boom

[mortal geode]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media message that was most friendly MLO

and i killed him 😭

[tardy oxide]

Train go boom

[vestal trout]

Does using the taser make noise that’s audible to suspects ?

[pseudo hull]

ai teammates when it comes to not shooting anybody they're looking at but onetapping someone 3000 yards away with their pistol

[hollow finch]

each pellet has its own individual chance to stun/dismember. Either it rips a limb of for an instakill or it stops them in their tracks

[mortal geode]

i dont think so

[jolly verge]

Yes, since LSS update, same as gunshot, big nerf actually

[deep patio]

stresses them out as much as a gunshot too

[vestal trout]

ahh so thats what the nerf is

[jolly verge]

Along with the range cut from 20m to 10m

[surreal pelican]

Wtf taser used to be 20m?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[surreal pelican]

Wait does the pepper spray can also have the same range as taser or na

[vestal trout]

Oh man

And here I was gonna do a new America hard S rank using taser

[jolly verge]

Pepper spray is just bad

[vestal trout]

Guess beanbag shotty it is

[jolly verge]

No, the range is shorter

[surreal pelican]

Amazing

[jolly verge]

M32A1

[vestal trout]

I deadass tried with it

The suspects js don’t give a fuck

But that was before I put on 2x intimidated and 2x pacifier

So maybe oughta try again with those traits

[old idol]

how good is the p90 damage wise

can it penetrate MLO/Black Sentinel armor with AP

[jolly verge]

Intimidators on ANA is weird choice

[vestal trout]

Penetration great, damage is a tiny bit higher than 5.56?

[surreal pelican]

Slap these on and you'll see a hell of a diff

[vestal trout]

They don’t shoot back gives me more opportunity to get a good controlling shot

[surreal pelican]

Especially the pacifiers

[jolly verge]

Half of suspects use level 4 so nope

[vestal trout]

What CAN penetrate lvl4? Mkv and the 7.62x51?

[jolly verge]

I mean it's just doesn't work once they hit stress threshold, just ffew shots and yells and everyone alerted anyway

[vestal trout]

Or just use the b1302 @old idol best gun by far

[jolly verge]

Any rifle with AP ammo

[old idol]

if you use shotguns would slugs be better against armor

[vestal trout]

What if I run up and bash?

[jolly verge]

Bash is useless against suspects

[jolly verge]

Up to level 3A only, useless against level 4

[old idol]

you would only use bash to force compliance for civilians

[vestal trout]

I see

What should I use instead of intimidator

[jolly verge]

Just stick with 2 negotiators instead of intimidators

[vestal trout]

Cause negotiator involves yelling

[cedar mulch]

To be honest, I reckon Elite Los Locos and MLO are probably the two strongest enemies in the game.

[vestal trout]

Noisy no?

[old idol]

though is it better than buckshot though

[vestal trout]

No buckshot all the way

[jolly verge]

If you can reliable hit torso yeah

[old idol]

i shot an MLO cultist point blank to the chest with buckshot and he just felt mildly nauseated

[jolly verge]

You will make noise anyway

[vestal trout]

Haha true now that tasers nerfed there’s nothing truly silent anymore

Kinda wanna mod the game now to have my taser pre LSS

[jolly verge]

You supposed to shot limbs or head with it, also don't use choke if you do

[cedar mulch]

Have car dealership suspects become more cunning?

They certainly didn’t have that many rifles back then

[jolly verge]

Idk, I didn't played yet

[solemn patio]

imagine if suspects used compound bows and crossbows on certain levels

and air rifles

i wanna see a suspect miss and freak out before being aired out

[old idol]

dude i got mfing jumpscared
I was trying to wand a door but a suspect so happens to open it and of course i died

free lean is kind of broken, i deadass managed to popped suspects that had no idea we were here

[solemn patio]

i love using it to have a seizure (lean in and out of cover shooting suspects)

[neon grail]

what is the best loadout?

[autumn willow]

After both testing AI on RoN and offline raids on Tarkov. I’d rather deal with rogue / boss AI on tarkov than ready or not’s MLO AI

THAT WAS AWFUL

[stone bay]

I dont think we up to a point where we break total realism in the game by adding an ai that can take 200 bullets

YET

[tacit gull]

what a lovely system

[urban matrix]

Hello. Is game doable for duos?

[tacit gull]

sure

[urban matrix]

Thanks

[old idol]

you can beat missions completely solo (no ai team mates or anything) its just that its significantly harder the less people you have

some missions where co op makes a difference would be no good deed or elephant where they have active shooters that will execute hostages if you're too slow

[urban matrix]

Thats good to know. Thank you. Me and my brother just got the game, but we are just starting + he cant english. So playing duo is what is on the table for now. 😄 🫡

[unique agate]

Programmed Psychosis is the dumbest achievement ever, cant tell you how many times I have been one shotted, even with a shield infront of me

[tacit gull]

that's why you dont use the shield

[hollow veldt]

is ceramic or steel better? ive been running steel for ages so not sure how it compares

[bitter mason]

Steel reduces damage that hits your armour
Ceramic blocks damage that hits your armour but will eventually break

I prefer ceramic

[jolly verge]

Steel, especially in Commander with traits

[bitter mason]

Steel also slows down your acceleration more than ceramic so it takes a bit longer to get to max movement speed

[stone bay]

Ceramic aint a choice

Either steel for armor, or kevlar for movement

[jolly verge]

If you run only front steel it's only 0.02 seconds difference compare to full coverage ceramic

[royal osprey]

im gonna miss having new RoN missions

[bitter mason]

Thing is you're not always going to be shot directly on your armour plating
So ceramic full on blocking damage from armour hits would give you a bit more survivability when it comes to your arms and legs getting shot up too no?

[hollow veldt]

from what ive heard kevlars nothing but a joke as it sucks hard lol

[bitter mason]

Kevlar sucks most of the time the speed isn't really worth it

Based name also

[hollow veldt]

thank you king

[jolly verge]

Kevlar does nothing because of bugged damage cap

[jolly verge]

If you get constantly shot to the limbs then you will survive longer with ceramic

[deep patio]

kevlar is a fancy word for no armor in this game

[hollow veldt]

i might stick with steel for programmed psychosis then idk

[merry sigil]

Is anyone else getting one tapped on new America mission while being on the 4th floor?

[deep patio]

listen if you're a gambler at heart, steel is for you, if you like consistency then ceramic will do that for you but once it breaks you're as good as dead

[umbral gorge]

Guys is The Heat is On achievement bugged? I didnt use anything that would exclude me from getting it. C rank, didnt even got hit once, all objectives done but nothing. However my teammate used grenade launcher and armor. But my mate got it in mp.

[hollow veldt]

with how the mlo are and how long the mission is idk how long i could keep ceramic alive lol

[plush comet]

Not sure if many know but you can rewire the CCTVs and I think that lets you view them on the HUD camera thingy so you can see where the suspects are on ANA

There's a multitool interactable at the desk

[hollow veldt]

yes you can, their ai seems to be pretty aware of the cameras tho as they are rarely on them

[sage portal]

Pub lobbies are hell on earth.

[plush comet]

Also I accidentally the detonator and the sophisticated... uh... choreography outside the window did not occur, due to some bug lol

[sage portal]

I've been trying to complete the last mission of the dlc but cant.

[deep patio]

yeah basically you got 4 shots before a plate dies, you're gonna get pumped with lead the second you show yourself once

so basically it'll probably save your ass for 2 maybe 3 encounters then you're on your own

i personnally use steel for the bleed mechanic cause if you're lucky you can live for a long time, hence the gambler comment

[hollow veldt]

yeah i didnt realise until just before that bleeds actually healed you

and that they are beneficial to you lol

[plush comet]

What I do is:

Exiting the gallery, close the double doors to the right and wedge off those and the center office. Breach the left office. Close the double doors and wedge them off once you get to the other parallel hall and breach the reception area with anything but C2 or shotgun. Then wedge off the reception doors behind you to prevent the opposite stairwell from possibly becoming a flank point.

The rest? Good luck lmao

[deep patio]

that's why we read the spreadsheet from MMMM

[hollow veldt]

just what i was reading actually

realised i dont really know much of the finer details of how the games works even with me doing every achievement except programmed psychosis and that bugged gas one

[deep patio]

it has a lot of info for you to exploit the mechanics of the game
i use a shotgun just for the dismemberment mechanic cause that's an instant kill if one of the pellets gets the 50% chance of dismembering

[deep patio]

you really don't have to be this nerdy with it, but i like doing that personally

[plush comet]

Importantly, if one pops out of a room, actually kinda charge in their general direction. Like, your instinct should be, as soon as it goes hot, don't give them another second if there's more.

You're basically municipal marine force recon on that mission so you kinda have to adopt military CQB tactics with a near-peer adversary

[hollow veldt]

ive heard i should be abusing crouching free lean

[zinc lantern]

wild username

[plush comet]

Importantly, what you want to do is make sure the second floor is cleared before moving onto the third floor. But you also want to kinda cordone it off as you go, to funnel them into predictable killboxes

Easier said than done

Much more of the map is interactable than others. You can close the blinds in the offices for example.

[crude prism]

Fun fact, you an interactive with those from the wrong side of the glass and curtain lol

[plush comet]

Yeah some of them

I noticed

[hollow veldt]

hey its the m guy that made the thing im reading

[plush comet]

But not all.

[plush comet]

Also, the RNG gods may be feeling bloodthirsty and will sometimes spawn suspects on the first floor even though someone on your AI squad says no sign of movement yet once you reach the first set of stairs

[bitter mason]

At most I had one guy spawn on the stairs or atleast walk down them
He was quite strangely dressed didn't look like black sentinel and wasn't an mlo guy

[hollow veldt]

with the fixed mlo reaction time what is it now?

[crude prism]

Absolute minimum should be 50ms now, instead of 0. Lol

[hollow veldt]

jesus, 50ms is still absurd tho

those human experiments must have given them inhuman superpowers

[bitter mason]

Thats probably not much different to every other suspect

If their gun is already raised they react insanely fast still

[hollow veldt]

yeah i got hard mode port done today, absolutely fucked up way more than any other map

[lucid torrent]

Happy or not

[wintry barn]

Why is 3 letter triad so hard, man every suspect stacks in a room and its impossible to contain everyone. There were people running around, yelling and gunshots i didnt even know what was happening 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[lucid torrent]

[bitter mason]

Void would rather make a rainbow six game that's why

[plush comet]

Same. I've also had one without a helmet and like 2 come down the stairs.

After a certain point the mission broke how I played RoN and made me reckless or bold. Like hey, I have a gun too!

As long as they don't shoot my breaching leg.

(they usually do)

[wintry barn]

How do i do triad in S man there are too many suspects stacked i cant get them all

[severe talon]

https://tenor.com/view/readyornot-judge-meme-gif-13775391740718228180

[crude prism]

"Beg"

[sage portal]

Why TF do they basically one tap you and I have full armor and everything.......

[deep patio]

you wearing a ballistics mask ?

[sage portal]

I'm basically fully blacked out. I always wear the mask

[devout spindle]

I was about to do the last mission (Hide and Seek) on my first campaign run and while loading my game and pc crashed and when I opened the game again it wiped all my progress and saves. I play on Steam on PC is there any way to get my progress back? This sucks on so many levels.

[wide verge]

Lawmaker is such a good mission. I always go dynamic entries because of the hostage situation but the different entry points change things quite a bit

[peak crown]

Im Curious when the next DLC would be

[bitter plaza]

what happened to neck bleedout animations, i havent seen it since 2024

[surreal pelican]

@raven citrus How do you get that belt in #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art ? Mod?

[raven citrus]

oh it's FISA belt, i think it can be unlocked with the mod that unlocks all cosmetics available

[surreal pelican]

Damn.. the supporter edition one?

[raven citrus]

yeah

[surreal pelican]

[bitter plaza]

what weapons are the most precise/accurate, like the bullet lands right where ur aiming without the height over bore being too high

[tacit gull]

all of them

[molten wasp]

I was doing so well on ANA, I'm giving up ffs

[deep patio]

TRPL /j

just pick whatever the heck you want

it's all the same

[bitter plaza]

alot of these weapons will hit in the upper torso or something when im aiming at the lower head, im looking for smth that i can just headshot everyone with quick and easy

[tacit gull]

any gun that doesn't have a holo sight

[cursive minnow]

All weapons are zeroed the same afaik shots should land where your reticle is aiming if they're as far as 50 meters.

[tacit gull]

if you want less height over bore

start using iron sights is the only thing i can tell you

[bitter plaza]

and im tryna hit some throat shots but the height over bore fuckin me up 😭

[tacit gull]

or just aim higher

[deep patio]

or give up aiming and surrender yourself to the Rotary Flash Launcher

[neat pulsar]

if I C2 a door and it bodies a suspect does that kill them or just incapacitate

[surreal pelican]

or give up and just fuck it we ball buckshot

[deep patio]

incap for 10s

[surreal pelican]

Civilians will die to c2

[mortal geode]

7 shots of agony and despair

[deep patio]

it's worse, it's 6 shots

[surreal pelican]

Amplified for me. That's what my shield bot uses for non lethal

[neat pulsar]

So I can still S rank?

[bitter plaza]

are submachine guns any good

[surreal pelican]

Yes but don't use it when civ is behind it

Coz civ will die to C2

Personally for one I never brought C2 on s runs

[deep patio]

yes, it's supposed to only ragdoll people

[deep patio]

are you sure they died cause it shows the dead icon until they wake up like 10s later

but then again i have never C2d a civvie

[mortal geode]

7 if you reload ²

[surreal pelican]

99.9% sure the case for me was that civs was dead. Literal.

Jack was incapped with a DOA civ. Jack got up, but the civ never

Reported and tied them up at the same time too and jack only got up

[wintry barn]

The repositon and reaction of the AI enemy in hard mode is the one of a navy seal holy

[floral peak]

if i compare all levels on Hard and then A New America, none of other maps had this fast reaction time as ANA

[surreal pelican]

Agreed

[keen mortar]

on hard is there any difference in the rounds except buckshot it all feels like 2 shot on AP most of the time

ik on normal 7.62 just obliterates and 6.5 also does with JHP and if i remember correctly 223 and 300 are both 2 shots

[mortal geode]

idk

[keen mortar]

ik that nothing exept buckshot can one shot centermass on hard but i rarely play hard anyways but because of this there like no reason to use anything more than 300.

[deep patio]

huh they might actually die cause my team killed me when i c2d an arrested civ

[keen mortar]

i wish damage was a little more clear especially depending on difficulty

[balmy patio]

the damage you take or suspects taking damage?

[keen mortar]

the damage suspect take ik theyre a bit thougher on hard mode but its not very clear how much more they take

[mortal geode]

i just taught someone how to use coffee machine 😆

[wide robin]

what shotgun?
870
b13
m104
supernova?

[deep patio]

civs got incapped and didn't get up

tested it 4 four times

[keen mortar]

man i keep trying to do hide and seek to get B on standard but i keep putting every suspect in a coma or a bodybag (definitly not because i use a G3 hehe)

[gilded canopy]

Question about speedrunning RoN: what are the new rules concerning the difficulty level? How do you record a video with the difficulty visible?

[floral peak]

I guess you gotta start record it in police station when choosing mission so the difficulty is visible at station

[wooden saddle]

Is there a cure for bot teammates being rather lethargic compared to the godlike bot suspects' precision and speed?

Like, if I am not leading and ensuring the teammates don't get killed, they will be dropping like flies.
Some bot suspects are also too good, one headshot kill from 30 meters at my first peek and that's it.

[queen lake]

any good unis i can steal in RON bc i fucking SUCK at making my own : ) ping me in media if i can steal

or dm me

[grand skiff]

yall is this normal #🎬ron-clips-and-media message
im tired boss 😭

they are like shooting at full sprint like john wick and doming us with like 2-3 shots

[steady vale]

guys i did the new america for the first time full solo in casual, i got a b like there are so much stuff to this mission

[fervent orbit]

Do I need to do the jammer/explosive objective in new america to get programmed psychosis?

[old idol]

What do you mean by "so much stuff", do you mean the hyper aggressive enemies that all at least have a rifle equipped?

it took me hours, and i mean hours to even beat ANA on normal difficulty. luckily got an a rank

[crude prism]

If you reeeeeeeally want to know...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?usp=drivesdk

[wooden saddle]

Congrats! I did it at A once, but ever since I'm having the issues I mentioned.

[wooden saddle]

What bit me the most is that those goons were out for blood. They took one of my officers, and all I could do is stare at his body.

[uncut cliff]

You have to complete the map for the achievement, so yes

[fervent orbit]

So if I fail that objective and get a B score, it wont count?

[uncut cliff]

Like if the vip suspect detonates the bomb then you automatically fail

[wooden saddle]

Yes. The present order of operations is like:

1. Clear the ground floor Take your time.
2. Clear the 1st floor. Take your time.
3. Clear the 2nd floor. If you find the transmitter, don't interact with it before you took your time to clear the floor.
4. Hit the transmitter to get the signal jammed. Get upstairs and prioritize getting to the trigger man (the florwer face in the big hall).
5. Apprehend the trigger man and defuse de detonator strapped on his body.
6. Complete clearing everything.

See me, saying 'de'. xD Giveaway.

Ah yes, on the 1st floor, it's important to have a key card and to find a PC where you can unlock the METAL doors.

There is one keycard usually in the 1st, 2nd room you enter

[fervent orbit]

I think my confusion is because one singleplayer run, I didnt interact with the device before storming the court hall and it still let me finish the map with a B rank

[verbal jacinth]

Does the deluxe edition come with all DLC‘s?

[wooden saddle]

Did the buildings crumble down?

[fervent orbit]

I honestly wasnt even paying attention to that so I cannot say but that side objective did fail as soon as we breached the court hall

[wooden saddle]

Ground shaking? That is unforgettable.

[fervent orbit]

I mean all my bots and myself were armed with flash launchers and we entered with c2 so it might have gotten lost in the shuffle lol

[uncut cliff]

If you breach the court room before using the signal jammer then it’ll say mission failed in the top left corner

[fossil radish]

I just finished "Valley of the dolls" for the first time.

[wooden saddle]

If you got the trigger man without disabling the signal and he didn't take down all the buildings, that's extraodrinary find.

But I think that didn't work out.

[fossil radish]

I never been thing emotional in games before.

[old idol]

random question does the triggerman always stay surrendered even if you dont get him to surrender?

is it possible for the flower man to walk around and shoot you

[fervent orbit]

Like I said, the objective did fail so Im guessing the buildings did collapse and I just missed it in yhe chaos

[wooden saddle]

Hugs.

[uncut cliff]

I’m assuming it’s possible for him to get back up if you don’t arrest him

[wooden saddle]

Flower man. Like the name.

On the positive side, the (successful) ending of that mission is easily the most majestic moment of the game.

[tough veldt]

If he sees you he will press the detonator if you have not activated thr jammer

[tough veldt]

I would arrest him

[sacred flicker]

is gas just supposed to be that bad? pepperballs and cs seem to just not work 45% of the time

[meager torrent]

can you guys add to known issues and fixes the fact that everyone in this game makes lobbies to sit in them doing nothing but spam kicking ppl and the fact that theres no server browser?? 🤡

borderline unplayable

[jolly verge]

Where do you use them?

[wooden saddle]

Hahaha, happened to me too.

[meager torrent]

7 kicks and still counting spending 30 mins to find a lobby is not a good look for a game bro

[jolly verge]

Mission I mean

[meager torrent]

idk atleast improve the server issues like adding a server browser and a toggle to swap between private and public status without having to rehost the lobby

so that way you can just block the morons who sit in lobbies and do nothing but spam kick

[static relic]

playing greased palms on standard and the bots are tracking me through walls on full auto

[tiny girder]

I'm sorry
But you are not Ready

[static relic]

ready or not, time for battle rifles 😔

like there's so many nooks and crannies they shoot me through

[floral peak]

Dont come over to A New America

[static relic]

I'm not playing slow and steady but i dont think it'll c hange anything 😔

[wooden saddle]

Well, thinking about it all, if I could use the bot teammates as ammo mules, I could probably clear A New America solo with them just sitting and watching at reasonable distance. But I need them to be better. I got an A, but I want to be able to do it reliably, not to count on luck.

[floral peak]

You shouldnt rush in this game, at least not always

[wooden saddle]

The elephant thing is fine to rush. Very few suspects.

Flashbang launchers left right, pam pam pam, done.

[molten prairie]

So update on the AI reaction times after some data mining.

The AI reaction time pre-patch was 0ms.

Post patch it’s 50ms.

And on standard it’s 100ms. So we’re still in superhuman crackhead territory.

[wooden saddle]

It should be 150-250 ms.

[static relic]

Thanks devs 😔

[floral peak]

Yeah elephant you gotta rush it, just like any Active Shooter mission

not really

[static relic]

Devs being like:
"We'll drop a bomb dlc but we make everyone have superhuman reaction time and tracking skills"

[wooden saddle]

Human reaction time for adults is around 200 ms.

[wooden saddle]

At best. Of course, some people just don't care about this world and that can be over 500 ms xD

[floral peak]

Maybe only on A New America, on every other map AI is pretty much balanced

[molten prairie]

Reference: Average human reaction time is 180-250ms. (Seeing the threat and then physically beginning to respond to it)

Professional athletes can achieve reaction times in the 100-150ms range. Nobody can do 50ms.

[floral peak]

i wouldnt say they are cracked, just the A New America ones

[molten prairie]

So on Standard, all the crackheads used to be Olympic gold medalist shooters.

[static relic]

Skill issue L ratio git guz ez 🤷 🥀 💀 /j

[wooden saddle]

Lower than 'somewhat under 200 ms' has got to be startle reflex.
F1 drivers are all around 200 ms.

[molten prairie]

Yes. Lower than 200ms is usually for simple behavior.

Such as beginning to run at the starting gun.

[floral peak]

Because i speak from my experience? I did every single Hard S rank, and i can say that imo AI is not that cracked

[static relic]

Can we use this as an excuse to get machine guns since even the crackheads are olypmic shooters too

[wooden saddle]

It's merely because nerves are so long. It's sure seen and known sooner than 200 ms, but it takes time to communicate what to do.

[floral peak]

Sniper Or Not mod have them

[molten prairie]

On standard, you don’t really notice the reaction time issue due to suspect hesitation. Thats why some maps on standard can feel so much more difficult.

[regal pawn]

The enemies on a new America got aimbot

[floral peak]

???

[molten prairie]

Because of suspects being set to high stress at the start.

[tender breach]

I keep failing the last mission of the DLC even tho I have the trigger with the sidequest codes done, do I need to activate the trigger while the jammer is up?

[static relic]

I wish i could use machine guns in multiplayer like before 1.0 xD

[wooden saddle]

The 50 ms reaction time is like

"I am a cat. Meow. 😼 Ratatatatatatata!"

[regal pawn]

Have to defuse the vest

We failed last night cause it went off before I got to defuse it 🤦‍♂️

[static relic]

Average human being vs AI that spent thousands of hours watchint competitive R6S footage (Dramatic comparison, i know)
The playerbase: "Must be skill issue"

[tender breach]

vest on the main guy?

[wooden saddle]

Oy! I do R6S.

[regal pawn]

Yea with the mask

[wooden saddle]

Trigger man, flower man.

[floral peak]

Why so aggresive? all i did is said my opinion

[tender breach]

what button do you press to do it? shove a multitool in his ass?

[regal pawn]

Make sure to clear top then go back and detonate and defuse the vest, I made the mistake of arresting him before defusing

[static relic]

I dont like the enemy ai on standard 😔

[regal pawn]

Just walk up to the vest

[tender breach]

can you not defuse after arrest?

[floral peak]

Oh we talking about ANA, couldve said that from start

[regal pawn]

U can but it blew up while I was defusing lol

[floral peak]

Yeah ANA ai is fucking busted

[tender breach]

I'm just running 5 flash GL like the good old days and getting everyone alive on the last mission

[regal pawn]

I just ran out of time a second too late

[floral peak]

I just lost my Hard S attempt on floor 22 to instakill from AI across whole hallway there

I was full hp and had Nutritionist + Armorer too

[wooden saddle]

Hugs man. That's tough.

[verbal jacinth]

Is it just me or is boiling points ending reminding anybody of payday two secret ending?

[static relic]

civilians are stupid, i'm shooting at them and they aren't complying

[floral peak]

Why you shoot at civilians 😭

[static relic]

They aren't complying

[floral peak]

just come over and bash them 1-2 times

[static relic]

I also dome any civilians who pull out their phones

[floral peak]

and theyll comply

[floral peak]

-30 UNAUTHORIZED USE OF FORCE

you can arrest while they using the phone btw (for some reason)

or it was patched?

[static relic]

I don't get how people can look at footage of an officer clearing out active shooters and some civvie whips out their phone because the cops are acting out of line (Allegedly)

Like seriously? 5 dudes are in your f ace with guns and you decide to whip out your phone??? That's asking to get shot

"Breaking news, cops shoot innocent civilian"

[tender breach]

I've got the mask man surrendering with the detonator on the ground, what do I do now?

[regal pawn]

Walk up to vest and defuse

[tender breach]

how do you defuse?

[regal pawn]

Look at the vest

[midnight forum]

Detonate the vest

[tender breach]

got it, had to detain first

[regal pawn]

Nice