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[tranquil galleon]

Five Nights at D Platoons when?

[chilly thorn]

tommorow...

[still perch]

mocap the dog

[chilly thorn]

thats a lot harder then it seems, you also have to make the movement system work.

[still perch]

RON has sold 11 million copies they can find a dog to mocap

[chilly thorn]

Yeah and they blew all their money on the DLC

[still perch]

how much could it had possibly cost to make 3 new maps bro

[chilly thorn]

Oh you have no idea how expensive it is to pay 30+ employees (especially with them being from different nationalities) along side advertising, server costs, and etc.

(under the assumption void does fair pay)

[still perch]

ron costs 50 dollars and sold 11 million copies bro they can afford a dog to mocap

[chilly thorn]

most storefront take like 30% of those sales, Plus taxes.

[still perch]

idk what the taxes are but thats still 385 million dollars

[tough veldt]

its $40

DLC is $20 if you get season pass

[still perch]

its 50 on steam

[chilly thorn]

realistically they probably made like

give or take 75 mil

and advertisement is ALOT of money

[still perch]

and you dont think thats enough for a dog to be motion captured

[still perch]

[chilly thorn]

not just the dog, they would have to program a whole new movement system, Dogs don't move like people.

[still perch]

yes we do bro

[chilly thorn]

we? sorry I was not familiar with your game

also I dont really see the use for a dog

[still perch]

dogs have been used to take down terrorists im sure K9s have a use in SWAT

theyre also way faster and lower and more agile

[chilly thorn]

Yes but I mean in game

[still perch]

sending it after a high importance suspect and then following it to make detaining him easier

[chilly thorn]

like if I could just sick a dog on someone to knock them down and restrain them that would make detaining them easy

[still perch]

like qadamah
i usually always have to shoot qadamah

[chilly thorn]

Yeah thats the point hes supposed to be difficult

I do still wish he had his own VA though

all named suspects should have dialouge of their own

[idle burrow]

||Bro the spoiler box is like a feature in Discord||

[drifting crow]

Oops

[covert aurora]

Endings are single player only

[drifting crow]

And just like that message gone

[idle burrow]

Just highlight the text and click the eyesight symbol to mark as spoiler, you can try it again

[still perch]

most insignificant spoiler OAT

[rocky plover]

Oooof, got a bit lucky with the first kill, also since 2nd door was closed should have fully checked behind the desk on the left side, a suspect almost always like to camp there and I think thats what killed you

[drifting crow]

I got no clue how to do it on mobile, I’m just not gonna repost

[still perch]

you shouldve popped his bitchass through the door bro

[idle burrow]

For future reference you type "||" on left and right sides of text.

[rocky plover]

He did, I think there was 1 guy behind him, behind the desk

[rugged forum]

The game is a tactical shooter, having a dog do the work for you kinda ruins it

[drifting crow]

“||” like this “||”

Oh I see now, sorry yall for screwing up hope I didn’t spoil anyone

[idle burrow]

It's aight, it's not a big ass spoiler anyway

[still perch]

its a SWAT shooter first and foremost i dont think a dog would be quite an issue

[rugged forum]

• cost to benefit ratio of adding dogs isn’t worth it at all

[rocky plover]

Cos you even got the 2nd guy on the 2nd door and there was no one else left seems like it came from behind you - near that cubicle/desk area

[still perch]

you have a squad for a reason bro use it

[idle burrow]

That area is fucking evil btw, some suspects just dig in real hard and you actually need to clear each corner before going in

[rocky plover]

You also started getting shot a little bit before the door was starting to get opened so ye most likely

[idle burrow]

real

[rocky plover]

I noticed with the fast paced ads all the time run and gun 😅

[still perch]

bros the officer that "just sees red"

[coral tapir]

Mentioning a police dog reminds me of Zero Hour really.

[idle burrow]

Hot take, free leaning abuse is such a pain in the ass and I wish normal leaning was better

[rocky plover]

True

[coral tapir]

Is there really a value in left right quick leaning?

[rocky plover]

While moving

[idle burrow]

I think it just aggros them and you cant fucking see so I highly doubt that

[rocky plover]

But static use free leaning and crouch together

[green tree]

in a new america when should i start worrying about hostiles killing hostages?

[still perch]

do you think judge is a local legend

[green tree]

keep missing S rank cause of it

[still perch]

they dont kill hostages on standard

[tranquil galleon]

What difficulty you running?

[green tree]

hardcore

[stone bay]

UUHUSHTUGHa

[rocky plover]

It's not an active shooter map

[green tree]

dang maybe I miss fired then lool

[idle burrow]

Either you misfired or someone got into the crossfire and got shot

[green tree]

ive seen ppl saying running flashbang launcher is the method

[still perch]

The SA-58, the quickest fix for your active shooter problem.

[idle burrow]

It really is, I got it on my 4th try for S ranking (on Standard though)

[exotic slate]

I got iron man by giving everybody i my party pepper guns shields and me running flashbang launcher

[green tree]

gotta give it a try then

[rocky plover]

Yea I had 1 civvie become Incapped in my successful programmed psychosis run but she was still alive, it was at the bottom of the stair case and enemy shot from metal door towards the opposite side of the wooden door (where I was) and he hit the civvie in the process

[idle burrow]

I can't get used to the free lean camera constraint, I try to aim a bit further and it turns out I can't look because of free lean limit. Any thoughts

[rocky plover]

You mean when you can't aim more left or right while free leaning?

[still perch]

free lean is overrated mobility is essential in CQB

[idle burrow]

Yes, basically

[still perch]

just run the rabbit lil bro

[rocky plover]

You have to face where you wanna aim roughly first before you free lean

[crude prism]

Sorry this is Ready or Not, we don't run here, or jog, or briskly walk

[autumn willow]

I was today years old when I realized the same guy who voices Judge (va Elijah Mountjoy) voices KURT “DOGTOWN” HANSEN

[still perch]

just push the threat bro

[idle burrow]

We move slower than Grace Ashcroft

[rocky plover]

With heavy full coverage steel

[autumn willow]

*injured Leon Kennedy

[rocky plover]

More like run the 🐢

[still perch]

dudes will full coverage steel plate heavy armor and wonder why theyre slow

[rocky plover]

[autumn willow]

Trve

Honestly - I don’t think I can complain about being slow in the game

[autumn willow]

Because that’s not what the games about, not speed running but understanding and picking careful fights

[idle burrow]

But the enemies going real fast and shoot-strafing like they're in a siege competitive match gets me all the time and infuriates my soul

[still perch]

inside out 2 miles away

[autumn willow]

The MLO make sense to do that

Are you upset because you forgot to bring a wand

[still perch]

they also get one tapped by 762 bro

[idle burrow]

but my weapon sways hard if i flick like it's CS2 bro

[autumn willow]

Literally one SA-58 shot to the stomach or any limb and they drop like a sack of rocks

Woah buddy

[still perch]

they drop so hard its past rocks bro they drop like a bag of boulders

[autumn willow]

Don’t be hostile - it’s okay

[still perch]

You weren't being irrational-- you were in survival mode.

[idle burrow]

I take it he's also doing the Programmed Psychosis achievement which is where we are all venting our asses off, me included

[autumn willow]

I like hearing the British Triad guy because like why is Sergeant Budget here

[autumn willow]

Wand - SA-58 - NODS - Full cover heavy armor - 9-Banger - ballistic mask

[idle burrow]

I ran the new Battle Rifle over the SA58, biggest mistake of my life

[autumn willow]

Take it slow, use the NODS on doorways to watch for triggers, close doors behind you

[autumn willow]

Yeah it’s a long gun, ANA is entirely CQB

[still perch]

NVG is really important bro if you hear the tick of death on the 2nd floor of ANA its over

[idle burrow]

Welp, I'll run my attempts when I'm done for the day

[autumn willow]

Oh yeah

[sour turret]

is there gonna be anymore maps/dlc for ready or not

[idle burrow]

Tbh, I trigger it on purpose then let them push me

[still perch]

tick
D-Platoon:

[autumn willow]

They can be on door ways too, including the first part in the office where you can find the keycard and key door directly after passing the museum of “The History of the Cadorva”

Also, fire alarm my beloved

[tranquil galleon]

What does the fire alarm actually do

[autumn willow]

I pulled that shit, went to a corner, watched six of them turn it and a switch mag dump and it was over for that whole entire lobby

[idle burrow]

One of the runs I got killed walking up the stairs to the 2nd floor and it pissed me off cause I was not damaaged at all

[idle burrow]

Oh and this I got swarmed really fast lmao

[autumn willow]

Turning it on attracts them to the location it started in - because they go to shut it off

[tranquil galleon]

So what your saying is I can make a meat funnel of bad guys, noted...

[idle burrow]

Is this true? This might be the biggest intel

[autumn willow]

Oh no

They will FUCK YOU TO DEATH if you don’t get a good lucky angle

[still perch]

is it better to breach the courtroom from the front or side

[autumn willow]

I’m not kidding, 1/8 tries, I got molested by those flower crowned nerds until I found the perfect angle

[urban mural]

Nah, just clear it and wedge both double and single door.

[autumn willow]

Bench / Pillar crouch and lean

[still perch]

wedge it and call in an airstrike

[idle burrow]

How long is the bomb jammer for anyway? I thought the first dialog line was an indicator it's gonna go off the next minute

[still perch]

3 minutes

[autumn willow]

I love using the detector with the c2 on the door because they will breach then see god

[still perch]

detector?

[urban mural]

I think to avoid the timer you just don't have to touch the evidence thing.

[autumn willow]

The little lasers on the ground

[still perch]

they can set it off if stressed

[urban mural]

Wait...

[autumn willow]

The detectors they use to track you

[urban mural]

The detectors can be only activated by the players btw.

[latent oak]

alright i tried doing it my way anyone got any tips for the last mission in boiling point

[autumn willow]

You don’t have to activate the jammer until you get to the courtroom, clear out every single room beside the court room, get your teammates to prepare breach, activate the code and then execute breach

[idle burrow]

NODs, SA-58 or Nade Launcher based on score target, clear the top floor before activating the jammer

[autumn willow]

Yeah AI teammates can’t activate them

[idle burrow]

Keep in mind that the AI teammates CAN trigger the mission to fail because they aggro'd the guy in the courtroom

[autumn willow]

AI teammates can also disarm the traps

[autumn willow]

Yeah have them wait outside the rooms ready to breath with c2 on sides while you take middle

Then throw a nine banger in with your teammates

Arrest and then disarm the vest, boom

[idle burrow]

But I mean that they "move and clear" on the circular stair leading to the top floor, then I tell them to fall in to me and they still somehow find a way to aggro the courtroom men

[tranquil galleon]

Im gonna be so real hearing you can clear the top floor bar the courtroom is pissing me off

[autumn willow]

Never happened to me, must be a bug

[idle burrow]

How they got near the door to trigger I have no idea

[tranquil galleon]

Ive sprinted through there like a man possessed throwing flashbangs like a lunatic to get to the detonator in 3 minutes

[autumn willow]

Yeah

It’s a whole thing

[latent oak]

lets hope i even have my team by the time i reach that point lol

[urban mural]

Wait I thought you were talking about the council room.

[tranquil galleon]

Time for me to lock in tomorrow then I guess

Back on my shit with a bag full of wedges

[stone comet]

freakin aim bot ass bots

[urban mural]

1 tap moments are the best.

[autumn willow]

Quick play is best to train, all AI teammates with SA-58’s, shields, full + steel heavy armor, 9 bangers and two with wedges

The SA-58 can put a fucking dragon to sleep

Any limb or body shot, normally one bullet, can put a suspect down

[urban mural]

How many mags each AI teammate?

[idle burrow]

Btw, not really related, but isn't the RSh-12 handgun a bigger caliber than the SA-58

[autumn willow]

4 on prim, 2 on second

[autumn willow]

It’s the same as the Ash-12’s round

That shit could put a clean through hole through a mountain

[idle burrow]

12.7x5.8 right? Should be bigger than a 7.62?

[autumn willow]

One sec I’ll get a comparison

[urban mural]

Bullets on shotguns explode in little pieces of metal when u shoot.

[quasi coral]

We are never going to get that Eotech EXPS3 /w G23 Combo

[latent oak]

bro first dude i run into and an ai teammate dies

[hybrid karma]

ANA is an incredible mission. I aced it with one friend on standard. A two man team making it happen. It was our first try together. Doing it with friendly AI is damn near impossible. I have no idea how the mission is easier with one real person than it is with 4 AI teammates.

[elfin shell]

i really need a lore video including the boiling point
i really gotta understand what s with usia and mlo

[surreal pelican]

Does anyone have the pic of judge smiling

[surreal pelican]

USIA created the First and Second Cohort. Sleeper agents consisting of ex military and law enforcement; brainwashed and conditioned to be the ultimate soldier who does shit without questioning

First Cohort bombed the Los Suenos Dam in 1990s; 2 or 3 of them got arrested while a fourth escaped.

Second Cohort is majority MLO; rebelled against USIA for what they did to them

[elfin shell]

and like where do you get all this information from that s what i don't get

[latent oak]

I have trash internet at the moment so i cant really play multiplayer

[surreal pelican]

Lore video and also in game evidence and world building

[elfin shell]

what lore videos?

[chilly thorn]

I believe the seocnd cohort is the one in game, They were the second expirement in 1990. Due to the more advanced drugs of the time this is why they are much more organized and less Religiously insane then the first cohort from the original trailer.

[surreal pelican]

Shane, Please Shut Up mission lore videos

[elfin shell]

i see

[surreal pelican]

Yes second Cohort in game

[elfin shell]

So pretty much judge is brainwashed but
Why is he a LSPD SWAT Officer then?

[surreal pelican]

Implied that USIA implanted him there

[elfin shell]

and how he would be affilited to MLO

[chilly thorn]

I think the First cohort and Second Cohort aren't too connected, Rather the Second also uses the MLO mantel due to recognizing themselves as both being victims

[surreal pelican]

This I'm not too sure but I'm pretty sure Judge was with the Second Cohort when he got experimented and tested on by USIA

[chilly thorn]

Has shayne made a lore vid on the dlc yet?

[surreal pelican]

Nop

[elfin shell]

And like, MLO is trying to make Judge to wake up from his idk how to call it. Brainwashing?

[chilly thorn]

He used to be fast.

[chilly thorn]

one thing to get known, The MLO are in no way good guys, They are simply fucked up people with flawed grandious ambitions. They are not trying to free judge of his programming just use him as their tool.

[surreal pelican]

I think so yeah

[elfin shell]

well yea, both USIA 'nd MLO would use Judge

Or USIA still using Judge.
because in the prison ending there s like some random guy

[surreal pelican]

I don't think green gloves guy is affiliated with either USIA or MLO since he disses them both

[chilly thorn]

Judge is the perfect solider, The MLO wants a member that deep in the Government to collapse america, The USIA wants them to further an authoritarian regime. Both Factions are fucked but I'd say the MLO at least has a good goal... kinda...

[elfin shell]

and even a NPC from MLO says to Judge to not accept his offer

[surreal pelican]

Yeah

Could be FISA? idk

Or even LSPD? This I'm not too sure

[elfin shell]

I wonder if with the upcoming DLCs we will know what will happen with Judge or so

[chilly thorn]

Judge most likely got executed by the state

[surreal pelican]

Nah he got freed

[chilly thorn]

What if the man in green gloves isn't real... Just a representation of freedom.

[surreal pelican]

Wouldn't explain why he got the cuff aesthetic

[chilly thorn]

thats just a game cosmetics

[surreal pelican]

My guess is either way he got freed in both endings

[chilly thorn]

Eh

the good ending seems to be continuing the cycle of hell for him

[elfin shell]

Yea the "good" ending is the one where he gets home

also
That guy is still watching him from Outside

[surreal pelican]

That guy is still watching? Where?

[chilly thorn]

Good ending is rather sad, Judge is clearly living a soulless life and he doesn't realize it. The second the police radio comes on he loses all doubt that he isn't normal and just springs into action.

He's a programmed tool and only in the bad ending so far does he ever get out of that

[elfin shell]

Right when u finish his out of the window very visible

[surreal pelican]

Wasn't that some woman

[elfin shell]

nope

[surreal pelican]

Outside the ... shop

[elfin shell]

he s on the street a bit to the right, you can see him right as u load in at the window

[surreal pelican]

Damn I missed it

[elfin shell]

Yea i just saw a comment on some video and looked at a video too

[chilly thorn]

Thats part of my theory for him not being real he is replaced with a trafficking victim

[elfin shell]

he s there watching him, probably going to interact with him at some point

And I really like to think that all of the costumisation are Judges. Like Clothes equipment and watches

[regal schooner]

Just bought this game and when I installed it it asked me to download smth for windows to help it work I cancelled it not thinking anything of it. I’m wondering if this was the problem because now I can’t play with my two friends who can play together but I cannot join no matter what I try. If anyone knows how to get the fix or download the update that I cancelled once I installed it.

[elfin shell]

Reinstall the game or verify the files.

[regal schooner]

Thanks for advice

[elfin shell]

Tbh I really can't wait until they update the game. I have to update my mods but it s going to be worth since the last DLC actually gave a big meaning

[regal schooner]

doyou playing with your friends with no issues?

[elfin shell]

yea

[chilly thorn]

gonna be fair people complain about mods breaking every update but thats how it works for literally 99% of games in existence

[elfin shell]

i mean some old mods still work

since they barely change anyhting. some old mods make your game crash

YESSS THE SERT 2017 Restoration IS BACK

[chilly thorn]

Texture changes still work.

All Texture change mods should still work

Ragdolls Return also works

[elfin shell]

oh yea i know

[chilly thorn]

Im waiting for Immersion improved and Some cosmetics

[elfin shell]

the ragdolls are so dumb tho 😭

[chilly thorn]

Turn on the active module.

[elfin shell]

madness combat 4 soundtrack in neon tomb? sign me the fuck up

[chilly thorn]

Alas... Superlab never got updated

Hasn't worked since 1.0

[elfin shell]

wat?

[chilly thorn]

it was a custom map I liekd

[elfin shell]

last update was for dark waters

[chilly thorn]

which is saying something since all current custom maps are ass and don't understand basic level design

[elfin shell]

tbh i rather replay neon tomb and relapse

MIght aswell replay A New America 💀

[keen canyon]

Do I have to s rank ANA to get the secret watch?

[chilly thorn]

ye

[elfin shell]

if you want all of the rewards

[regal schooner]

@elfin shell is it optional if I link my epic games?

[elfin shell]

Idk
but I think Epic Games is a must by now

(i really dont get it why the FUCK they made it with Epic Games)

[keen canyon]

Do u know if u or anybody here know if the enemies are susceptible to the pepper balls?

[regal schooner]

Yeah me too

[elfin shell]

man you re fighting against your own people, you need more flashes than anything else

i don't think pepper balls will be any effective since there are enemies with gas masks

[keen canyon]

Only reason why I’m asking is cuz if I give the ai teammates the beanbag, they ended up doming the enemies

[chilly thorn]

Most MLO suspects wear gas masks (including frogmen) while the Black sentinal don't.

[elfin shell]

if you just want to get the rewards use a mod and that's it

[keen canyon]

Frogmen?

[chilly thorn]

You can still stun them with the pepperball but it will take more shots and wont have the CS effect

[keen canyon]

On console :p

[chilly thorn]

The ones with the big cloaks over their head. that is what the headgear is called

[elfin shell]

Oh then RIP

[alpine brook]

dawg. what the actual fuck are you supposed to do with hostage-taking suspects when the hostage is standing in one spot, the suspect is standing 6 feet away to his left in the open, yet when you shoot the hostage-taking suspect centermass the game treats it like you shot the hostage

[elfin shell]

After I finished all the achievements (including boiling point) i just installed mods

[keen canyon]

Ohhhhhhhh. I didnt know they were called that. that’s a funny ass name ngl

[alpine brook]

also yeah hes referencing the danish frogmen

[elfin shell]

Based on the SF of Denmark

[keen canyon]

Im gonna do the s rank on quick play first so i dont have to worry about losing my officers

[elfin shell]

never had a problem headshotting the suspect

I mean.. I did with the dark waters, they had titanium head and they wouldn't die but now it was okay

[keen canyon]

Time to go back to the ball crushing factory (ANA) 😍😍😍

[chilly thorn]

AnA is literally that picture of the cat saying "I hope I don't have a bad day" at the Bad day factory

[keen canyon]

Fuckkkkkk Ik im already gonna regret tryna s rank this fuckass map

Wish me luck. I may not come back the same person I once was before attempting ts 🥀🥀🥀

[ionic gale]

Man, I would just give your teammate the pepperball launcher at that point

[loud mural]

I usually just give 1 the beanbag and the others pepper

[ionic gale]

I don’t trust my AI teammate at all to use the beanbag so that’s reserved for me

Actually, I just don’t even really use the beanbag or pepper bowl launcher much anymore because the M32A1 flash bang launcher is still absolute cheese

[loud mural]

That's extremely valid, I used that alot during my S rank playthrough

[keen canyon]

I don’t have the launcher. Didn’t preorder it :p

[idle burrow]

Why is my SA58 taking 2 shots to take someone down is there an attachment reducing damage

[loud mural]

I think it's really dumb that they did that

[ionic gale]

How the fuck does that work?

Of course not. but your ammo type you’re just not hitting them in a specific place.

[idle burrow]

I don't fucking know it used to be a one shot now it's a consistent two shot

[keen canyon]

Yeah it really is :p

[loud mural]

Body armor?

[idle burrow]

AP or JHP?

[chilly thorn]

Unlucky or they have heavier armor. Sometimes people in this game will just take extra or less bullets for no reason. Low pain tolerance I guess

[ionic gale]

There is different levels of armor if you didn’t know that

I think the MLO and The MLO have like level four armor, which is the most that an enemy can have

[idle burrow]

Four level armor... jesus lmao

[loud mural]

.300 black AP did the trick for me on that mission

[ionic gale]

So it’s made to like be pretty resistant towards rifle rounds

[loud mural]

Yes

[chilly thorn]

Tip: Aim for the upper torso, Not the stomach.

or just arrest them instead lol

[worthy rover]

Aim for the pelvis, no armor there

[chilly thorn]

thats truet too but I believe upper deals more damage

[worthy rover]

Didn't know that, will keep in mind

[chilly thorn]

Warning it has the off chance of hitting them in the neck and that usually kills

[lost inlet]

just use AP rifles rounds, they can all pen lvl 4 plates.

[idle burrow]

I'm so sick of free leaning dude

[lost inlet]

this is only a thing for .50 AE, the rest follows the basic rule of hitboxes: Head, torso, arms and legs.

so it's better aim around the belly for your bullet to deals full damage straight to their health pool while avoiding hitting in their arms and dealing less damage.

[chilly thorn]

But if you use the Ump45 its 2 shots to the upper torso and 4 with Belly with armor

[lost inlet]

you sure you wasn't missing?

[chilly thorn]

I've been playing the game for a long time and they always went down faster if I shot up there

[lost inlet]

you could've hit the arms while using JHP against enemies with body armor.

[maiden sparrow]

I wonder if the devs would be able to do a super dark mission, cause I had an interesting thought

[chilly thorn]

AP with the Ump45 downs Pier suspects in 2 shots. 3 to the Torso.

[raven nimbus]

Yo, how comes I cant find Voll Health House?
is it put into a time out or something?

[chilly thorn]

I was on semi auto so I know no bullshit was happening

[lost inlet]

mind sending clips of it?

[regal schooner]

Brooo i can't still play multiplayer with my friends

[chilly thorn]

Aight one sec im on lethal rn

[regal schooner]

It also won't let me search for public server even if I selected all regions and difficulties. Pls help me guys I don't know what is happening, I just bought this game 2 days ago

[chilly thorn]

Sent it in clips, Unless suspects have less health when they are on their knees or suspects on pier dont actually have armor.

[lost inlet]

now do same with their belly only.

cause 2 shots incap with .45 is normal on standard.

[chilly thorn]

alwight

also just to confirm suspects actually have armor on that map

[lost inlet]

they have none and lvl2 only.

[chilly thorn]

Some have armor on their model I assume that meant that had armor

[wind creek]

guys

[chilly thorn]

not all but the ones with it

[lost inlet]

don't trust their models, RoN never stays consistent with their model matching with their actual stats.

[wind creek]

how well is co op in this game without vc?

[chilly thorn]

It played the armor sound when I shot him so

[lost inlet]

shouldn't matter anyway since your bullets penetrated it.

[obsidian lark]

looking for 2 to join my sqd

[chilly thorn]

im just tryna prove that upper deals more damage in general

[lost inlet]

again, only .50 AE have that mechanic, the rest of bullets doesn't have upper hitboxes where they deals more damage compares to shooting in the belly.

[chilly thorn]

Sent you belly shots, seems they added it to other calibers.

which makes sense I don't think it makes sense for it to only work for one, perhaps it was bugged.

[lost inlet]

@crude prism can you confirm this?

[regal schooner]

Hi everyone do you know why even my find public server don't work?

[crude prism]

I'll make a vid 1 sec

[chilly thorn]

hope this doesn't turn into a every copy of ron is personalized thing

[lost inlet]

thank you.

[crude prism]

limb mults

oops definitely didn't line up the 2 vid tracks at the end

[chilly thorn]

then how did

[chilly thorn]

whatever... every ron copy is personalized its canon

[crude prism]

It's true

[lost inlet]

another day in RoN being inconsisent as fuck.

[chilly thorn]

I mean bullet damage in real life is random.... maybe theirs some secret mechanic

[crude prism]

I can't tell that's not the ump9 right?

[lost inlet]

have they finally listened to us and gives individual suspect have a chance to spawns in with more health?

[chilly thorn]

Ump45 straight mag

the BEST smg...

[lost inlet]

fuck, i really don't wanna reinstall RoN just to see how gay the UMP are.

[chilly thorn]

ump45 my favorite queer representation!!!

Im still confused why the bellhops in this game have no shoes.

[lost inlet]

i just watched video showcasing UMP-9 and UMP-45 firing sound, the clip matches with suppressed UMP-45's firing sound.

[keen rover]

can you free lean with a shield?

[coral tapir]

Yeah, and to maximize your defense, crouch, free leaning + hold S

[keen rover]

you would need toggle crouch for that. holding ctrl and alt is so awkward

[ocean rapids]

so for commander mode, I need to S rank my first go?

I can't replay a mission and have it count?

[crude prism]

Wait so what is the actual thing that's weird here?

Isn't this just hard mode with AP rounds? So it's 3 shots and not 2?

[lost inlet]

@chilly thorn were you playing on standard or hard?

[lost inlet]

apparently, .50 AE's multiple torso hitboxes mechanic has carried over to other rounds since .45 AP can 2 shots on the upper body and 3 shots on the belly suspects in pier.

[cloud hinge]

play a new america
get to the final floor
immediately headshot by random suspect
watch the same suspect kill all the ai too
I guess we weren't ready

[lost inlet]

so either suspects has a chance spawning in with extra health has becomes a thing or multiple torso hitboxes has becomes the norm with every bullets.

[crude prism]

Nah nothing is weird, I just did both to be sure

[lost inlet]

oh.

so azzy was fucking with us?

[chilly thorn]

Standard

I think hard is not bad persay but not fun for casual play

but I also feel standard is too easy I wish their was a middle ground diff

[drowsy topaz]

Another S rank mission complete tonight I'm loving it it's definitely a bit of a challenge to get everyone non lethaly lmao

[keen rover]

have you tried mods

[chilly thorn]

Yes I usually play with mods

but im waiting for one im interested in to update since I haven't tried it

I usually play with FAI but no lately

[chilly thorn]

Its entirely possible the game just goofed idfk man

but for me consistently aiming for the upper torso has always felt to kill faster.

[keen rover]

you could try not killing them

[chilly thorn]

I don't like killing people, but if im forced to I want it to go smoothly

the last thing you need in this game is a gun fight.

[onyx elk]

Feeling very frustrated with this game and the glitches ruining my enjoyment of it. AI teammates are incompetent and brain dead and enemies are ignoring basic rules of the game (like my past run of A New America was ended due to an enemy ignoring the fact that the door they just opened was wedged???)

[chilly thorn]

on extremely EXTREMELY rare cases wedge doors can be opened by suspects I do not know what causes it, and it seems to only happen like right after they are placed

its def a bug its been there since release

one thing to help is that for some reason some double doors require two wedges

[onyx elk]

I wedged all entrances to the Bomb room (double door and both electric doors) and went to go for the bomb. I heard a door get kicked open and one of my squadmates was gunned down. I went to check what happened and both electric doors were wide open with the wedges still in the spot they normally were but the door itself was open

[chilly thorn]

??? thas some bullshit

[onyx elk]

this is fair enough I suppose. Two doors two wedges

[chilly thorn]

Yeah the problem is most double doors require one

[onyx elk]

Tell me about it man. I wish I was the problem with S-Ranking this mission. I feel like if I simply wasn’t good enough at the moment to do it I wouldn’t feel so frustrated

[vestal mauve]

Is it just me or has ROE been super loosened this patch

[onyx elk]

but everytime it seems to be like the glitch i just mentioned or my AI teammates standing in open doorways and dying

[chilly thorn]

RoE has been loosened forever its stupid

[onyx elk]

Yeah its much looser ive noticed

[chilly thorn]

they seemed to have nerfed it ever since dark waters

due to the player complaints

[vestal mauve]

I legit shot a Neon Tomb terrorist unprovoked, blew his arm off, and didn't get penalized lol

[chilly thorn]

Its so fucking stupid

and its all this games fuckass fanbases fault T~T

[onyx elk]

Did they also nerf the New America AI? Ive been trying to S-Rank it for 2 hours now and havent actually died yet

[onyx elk]

something something we dont negotiate with terrorists

[chilly thorn]

Sometimes these devs SHOULDN'T listen to their fans because they led to dark waters suspect ai lol

some of the most spineless ai in this games history

[vestal mauve]

"We're ready to talk terms!"
Me with my humble Benelli Supernova:

[onyx elk]

Speaking of Dark Waters, I kinda hate 3 Triad as a mission. The map and lore of it is top notch but its basically just a big map with 500 dudes in it that takes forever because theres always one or two suspects hiding in a random ass room

also the helicopter is deadass fuckin useless on that map

[chilly thorn]

when you actually take the layout of the map itself its smaller then the crackhouse

[onyx elk]

really? maybe thats why it feels like theres so many enemies

[chilly thorn]

enemies run around alot I think the max enemies on that map is 22-24 with like 8 PMCs

I liek da map cuz is pretty :)

[onyx elk]

trueeeee

all the maps in this game are gorgeous. well except maybe Relapse?

and neon tomb…

[chilly thorn]

Relapse in Greased Palms Cough Cuz they are still unfinished Cough

Relapse doesn't even have unique voicelines that map was so rushed out the door

[onyx elk]

have you noticed the random hand members complaining about some boy who murdered people in cold blood?? i have no idea what theyre talking about

I also have a love hate relationship with that mission. Fuckin hate S-Ranking it because they love killing eachother so much with crossfire

[chilly thorn]

They are talking about qadamah

[onyx elk]

ah ok. What’d he even do? I know soon after the events of Neon Tomb he was beaten by correctional officers and sent to the hospital

[coral tapir]

What do you think of Leviathan, now that Dark Waters is mentioned?

[onyx elk]

I assumed they were there to break him out

[coral tapir]

Also ehhh I don't really like 3LT's map at all but I'm fine with how suspects are fought there.

[chilly thorn]

Qadamah led the attack on the nightclub, which the hand didn't want.

Qadamah is apparently pretty young and most likely was enraged.

[onyx elk]

Very pretty map thats great the first time around. Kinda annoying on replays because of the classic “map is huge so it takes an hour to find every hostage”

[chilly thorn]

This is why im pissed off Qadamah doesn't get unique lines especially for a unique suspect that shows up on two maps.

[coral tapir]

I see.

[onyx elk]

Lmao he doesn’t have a unique voice???

thats so fucked

[chilly thorn]

He reuses voicelines from the generic members

[onyx elk]

booooo 👎

[coral tapir]

I find one of Neon Tomb guy's voiceline to be a complete brainrot.

[onyx elk]

oh also it was the only map I found the SWAT copter useful on before the Pier mission was added

[chilly thorn]

One of the Neon Tomb VA's didn't even try

I think he was trying to give off the vibe they barely speak english but he just sounds monotone and unemotional

[coral tapir]

That triple yalla gotta be the pinnacle of brainrot quote brah

[scenic wave]

So what is y'all's hardest missions in this game?

[chilly thorn]

AnA

[onyx elk]

pretty objective answer tbh

[chilly thorn]

I would argue before Boiling point it would be Narcos

[onyx elk]

whether its the AI being insanely good or glitches its just hard as fuck

[scenic wave]

I haven't beat the game yet so I don't know the mission. I'm on like the shittiest laptop known to man so I'm only on the fifth mission

[onyx elk]

YESSS finally someone else find Narcos really difficult

[coral tapir]

At this point it's not subjective anymore cause of how powerful MLO guys are in comparison to the other bozos you can fight.

[coral tapir]

Honestly don't like the theme of Home Invasion DLC at all, except for Lawmaker.

[chilly thorn]

Home Invasion is still the second best DLC imo

[scenic wave]

I played a new American tho. Hardest shit ever because it constantly looked like the sun was blinding me no matter where I went

[onyx elk]

Narcos is honestly one of my favorite missions in the game despite the difficulty of it

[chilly thorn]

Narcos is one of the most interesting plots for a map and feels so polished

[onyx elk]

Has the most “cops” feel to it due to the entire mission being a neighborhood

I love running it with no helmet and light armor with basic weapons (Pistol, Basic Shotgun or AR)

[chilly thorn]

Narcos also has a unique suspect type with the Hitmen

[onyx elk]

? Im interested in this. Never heard of it before

[chilly thorn]

Big guys with Full armor and a 100 Round AR

[onyx elk]

ohhh yes ive noticed the nutsack ARs on that mission being unique to them

[coral tapir]

Honestly the game should bring in more attachments that resemble variants like how they added M4A1 Carry Handle + barrel extension.

i.e. Wooden kit for 870, standard SCAR-L kit for MK16 or M14 EBR kit for M14S-16

[chilly thorn]

Those suspects I believe are the second most dangerous in the game behind the MLO

Due to being Cartel First Responders they are insanely heavily trained

[coral tapir]

Was it the drum mag?

[onyx elk]

I agree. Me and a friend tried to do a “deputy and sheriff” run of that (no armor and only the .357) and i quickly realized they dont give a FUCK about bullets

[chilly thorn]

Double Drum Mag.

[coral tapir]

Oh hey glad to know I'm not alone on getting dragged into roleplay as regular cops!

[chilly thorn]

I roleplay as 90s swat and restrict modern equipment

but thats for a challenge run

[coral tapir]

Top 10 quotes before disaster

#1 : "Contact confirmed."
#2 : "Begin exercise."

IDK what to bring for the rest 8 lololololol-

[chilly thorn]

D PLATOON!!

[onyx elk]

My wishlist for this game is

Ski-mask Judge

A sniper of some kind, bolt action or semi-auto (not the M14)

More low tier weapons (shotguns, AK, Uzi, etc)

Customizable patches for vests and shirts

Juggernaut option (Full body armor suits, LMGs, Full Head Ballistic Helmets)

Riot gear (Batons, Bolas, Riot masks, Actually useful pepper spray)

Also some new long equipment, perhaps Window covers or placeable cover?

[coral tapir]

Oh yeaaa R700 wouldn't be so bad to exist here.

[onyx elk]

and above all else, fix the fucking SWAT AI

[coral tapir]

SWAT AI is legit gambling at this point you can't convince me otherwise.

[surreal pelican]

Anyone here use Stab Vest over the regular vests? How did it play out for y'all?

[onyx elk]

I keep having to comb over entire maps by myself because the “search and secure” command is just busted ATP

[onyx elk]

I died. It doesnt even have melee damage protection

or if it does its unnoticeable

[chilly thorn]

More suspect Weapons - (Bolt Action Rifles and Machine Pistols like the Mac10 (only for suspects)
NV Scopes
Swat Conversations throughout the entire game
New suspect models for all maps
More hesistation and Surrender Animations
Ability for suspects to get back up limping after being incapped
Suspects taking off and putting back on body armor
Suspects actually physically openning doors
Chainsaw Suspect
More voicelines for all suspects (new VA's more variety)

[onyx elk]

Chainsaw suspect sounds fucking awesome

[coral tapir]

So much for "Stab Vest".... Would've called it "an intentional-multiplayer-throwing gear" if it weren't for Kevlar's existence.

[onyx elk]

Oh another one ive wanted for a while is Thermal NODs. We already have the budget for NVGs and Flash GL, why not cheese it even more with thermals?

[coral tapir]

Knife suspect already outshadows bomb vest suspects now Chainsaw? 😭 the mf would solo MLO at this point.

NODs standing for?

[onyx elk]

The most dangerous thing in this game is fast enemies

[onyx elk]

idfk, I just want thermal goggles.

I said a word ive heard before and hoped it would land lmao

[coral tapir]

The dumbest shit in this game is that you can't fight back if you are kissed, meanwhile suspects get to shoot you if they are kissing you...

[onyx elk]

apparently it stands for Night Optical Device

[coral tapir]

Literal one-sided love brah.

[coral tapir]

I see.

[chilly thorn]

for maps ?
Abandoned Hosptial (Raid)
Junkyard (Barricaded Suspects/Gang War)
Metro (Pitch Black, ActiveShooting)
Abandoned Estate (Raid)
Aquarium (Active Shooting)

[coral tapir]

Chainsaw suspect on Metro would go perfect as a literal horror game combination.

[onyx elk]

I would love more apartment and house raids. (MW2019 my beloved)

[chilly thorn]

I have the idea for a plot for Metro and Junkyard

[onyx elk]

Also more rural missions would intrigue me. Idk how exactly they would pan out but I love A Lethal Obsession’s and Carriers of the Vine’s atmosphere

maybe a trailer park or another Ruby Ridge type missions?

I’ve also seen talks of a possible “defense” mission due to the new tactics AI have in the new DLC. Having D-Platoon not be the infiltrators for once would be quite interesting

[acoustic solar]

any tips for S rank rust belt

i get to that big cave with the lake part and then my officers just die en masse

[chilly thorn]

Metro
LS Subway Station
Starting Locations - Main Entrance, Subway Tunnel, Sewer. (Access a different metro tunnel through blowing up a wall, Would Alert Suspects)
The Hand commences a Gas Attack in a Subway station after having inside workers flipping the power, They lock off the entry points and hunker down in the station, (Important note that No civvies would be alive on the map, Everyone is dead) Suspects would have turned the Metro station into a sort of "Message" sporting graffiti about their cause, flags and strung up bodies. Map would be near pitch black meaning suspects will use Flashlights and NVGs along side gas masks. Map is sort of to be the hands last stand before dying out (As they only have 20 members left) with the leader toating an outfit of a torn american flag as a poncho.

I imagine the visual of turning your flashlight on in a pitch black hall just to see blood caked in the tile floors.

[coral tapir]

[onyx elk]

You might be doing some of this already but basically here’s what I did.

Move hard and fast when clearing the beginning

Once you enter the tunnels go slooowwwww . Check every door with the mirror gun, use proper breaching tactics, and always go first.

Bring lots and lots of flash bangs.

At the final room, split your team and order both teams to queue up to each entrance and breach them with C2 and flash. Then throw a flash yourself. This will cause almost every NPC to shit their pants and surrender or be too brain fucked to notice you instantly.

also NVGs and infrared lasers if you don’t have them already. Impossible for enemies to see them

[chilly thorn]

Can they see laser sights now?

I remember it being bugged before

[onyx elk]

I assumed they always could. Lasers and flashlights are visible to enemies

[chilly thorn]

Im not denying it I was just reassuring myself because Im pretty sure they do now

[chilly thorn]

Also on the topic of RoN levels, I do not believe there is a way to make a Airport map work.

not plot wise layout wise

they would have to do some serious restrictions to make it work

Another thing I think RoN should do is a complete overhaul at some point

for commander mode at least, and the level order.

LSS levels should be placed into the base campaign with some levels added to ease the player in better

I think for a second level this game needs its fairfax type short horror level which it currently lacks

Streamer just feels kinda bland as a follow up to the peak that is gas station

[chilly thorn]

As well many mechanics in DLC levels would do great in older levels

[dark acorn]

whats the context

[chilly thorn]

wdym

[coral tapir]

So from god knows how many attempts I go VS Programmed Psychosis, they don't seem to mind about lasers at all, they still do mind about flashlight though.

[chilly thorn]

hmmm

I'd test it but Im not playing this damn game at midnight im tired

[eternal drum]

experienced swat ai freezing when stacking up on an initially open door, now closed.

[tight gazelle]

Isnt there a suggestions channel here

[gentle python]

if I have mods can I still get the devs ruined watch?

[cedar mulch]

Lawmaker is a more suitable choice for the first map of DLC 1

[rocky plover]

More like second tbh

[bitter mason]

Dorms works well enough for the first its just a bit chaotic
Lawmaker is way bigger but the suspect count isn't very high

Narcos work better as the last mission since it has crazy af suspects

[rocky plover]

Ye agree

[cedar mulch]

Furthermore, the suspect stats and weapons differ across these three maps. In Narcos, suspects have improved accuracy; the further away they are, the more accurate their shots, and they are equipped with a drum magazine for the M4.

[quasi coral]

I do not think so

[gentle python]

damn

alrighty

[bitter mason]

More accuracy at range is silly imo unless ofc they are using semi auto now
Even so I do feel like those guys should be more spray and pray especially with how much they run around compared to other suspects

[cedar mulch]

UPF’s performance in DLC 1 is simply not strong enough to justify them being the final map. They’re far too weak compared to Los Locos.

[bitter mason]

Yeah

[cedar mulch]

On the 'Hard' difficulty setting, they will use semi-automatic fire

[bitter mason]

I do like them being more amature though and should stay that way
Ron already has too many professionals as suspects

[cedar mulch]

In fact, Elite Assassin in Narcos is one of the maps with the highest shooting accuracy in the entire game. On Normal difficulty, its accuracy rating is 3.3, which is higher than the 3.5 accuracy ratings of The Hand and Left Behind.

[bitter mason]

Weird

I dont understand voids balancing

[cedar mulch]

On the Hard difficulty setting, Elite Assassins will use semi-automatic fire at long range and fully automatic fire at close range.

[surreal pelican]

What about MLO?

And Black Sentinel

[cedar mulch]

3.5

[surreal pelican]

Standard?

[cedar mulch]

yes

Both the Black Sentinel and the MLO have an accuracy rating of 3.5, and their health is lower than that of the Cartel Elite Assassin.

On the Hard difficulty setting, Cartel Elite Assassin still benefits from an additional accuracy bonus and has more health than the MLO and the Black Sentinel.

[cedar mulch]

The same applies to Los Navegantes. In DLC 4, their long-range accuracy decay has been specifically optimised, whereas this is not the case for the MLO and Black Sentinel.

[cedar mulch]

But MLO has unique AI mechanics and specific pitfalls. Meanwhile, the Black Sentinel’s equipment and stats are inferior to those of The Hand.

[bitter mason]

Odd

[cedar mulch]

Like Secret Service agents, Cartel Elite Assassins use semi-automatic fire. Furthermore, their morale and pressure valve limits are roughly the same.

[bitter mason]

I wish they just made semi auto a different firing pattern for high skill suspects instead of something they only use at range

Same with burst fire for medium skill

[cedar mulch]

Because Los Locos are VOID’s favourite. they have mini-image. car dealership has become a stronghold controlled by Los Locos, and they appear on more maps than any other faction.

[bitter mason]

I prefer them over most other suspects
They seem like a more reasonable perp to go up against than black sentinel and mlo

[mental ivy]

do the black sentinel dudes on ANA just use MLO AI?

[bitter mason]

@cedar mulch los locos are definitely one of the older suspect factions that survived early access

[bitter mason]

I dont think so
Ive not seen them breach like mlo do

[mental ivy]

also what's up with the supposed black sentinel guys on all gods burn

[raven schooner]

I found a way to cheese the system tbh

[mental ivy]

they act like amateurs

and have goofy voice lines

[bitter mason]

The guys in the vault area?

[cedar mulch]

VOID might only favour MLO and Los Locos as their sons. Because The Hand doesn’t get that kind of treatment at all.

[bitter mason]

There's the rioters that are just rioters and there is black sentinel in the vault area

[mental ivy]

vault area guys yeah

[raven schooner]

the majority of the original black sentinel got arrested from 3 letter triad, either these are new recruits/copycats

[bitter mason]

Guess ive not payed much attention to them

[cedar mulch]

Black Sentinels do not have MLO’s special AI. They have not been buffed at all in this DLC.

[rocky plover]

anyone else notice the leaf sight is used (as in the working position) on the m320 now?

[raven schooner]

they're probably geared independent contractors/or another lesser experienced subdivision of the black sentinels, the ones from 3 letter triad had british/international specialist operatives tbh

[cedar mulch]

They are not as aggressive as Los Navegantes, nor are they as cunning

[bitter mason]

Ron suspects never strike me as cunning

[cedar mulch]

You’re right, but Black Sentinels are still the easiest faction to deal with in DLC 4. Unlike the Pirates, they don’t have poison gas packs or kill hostages, nor do they set explosive traps.

[raven schooner]

ye

[pseudo hull]

dude im missing something on greased palms and its annoying me

i dont wanna lose the s rank

[rocky plover]

did ya get the 2 soft objectives

[pseudo hull]

yeah

[bitter mason]

Did you secure the weapon box

[pseudo hull]

im assuming its some evidence i just cant find

i closed the cache at the soft objective

[rocky plover]

probably, are you solo or with AI?

[pseudo hull]

with ai but they cant seem to find anything either

[rocky plover]

did you try the command search and secure?

[pseudo hull]

yeah they finished and now they ignore the command

[rocky plover]

the pistol maybe by the dead body soft objective?

[pseudo hull]

its bagged

[rocky plover]

hmmm weird, try spamming the search and secure in different locations, sometimes the AI registers there's evidence depends where you give the command from

[pseudo hull]

i think i should just restart it doesnt seem to be working

uhh i voted to complete and still got an S rank

[rocky plover]

lol nice

[pseudo hull]

but i didnt report a dead body apparently

[rocky plover]

thats weird

[stone bay]

f2rgteg

[somber monolith]

last mission on the im too old for this s run

[rocky plover]

nice but isn't that B or higher, S isn't required for that achievement

[somber monolith]

for the fun of it

love of the game type shit'

tommorow i start the ironman

[rocky plover]

ah i completely i relate i did them on hard S as well xD

[rocky plover]

good luck!

[somber monolith]

im coming for that fucking gimp bunny

[rocky plover]

[surreal pelican]

I wanna try stab vest

See if the extra slots are bueno or no bueno

[hexed escarp]

be prepared to instantly die if a suspect sees you for longer than a second

[surreal pelican]

How bad could it be?

[hexed escarp]

i've played no vest a few times recently and stab vest doesnt have any gunshot protection either so its pretty bad 😭

[surreal pelican]

No vest or.. stab vest?

[hexed escarp]

its basically the same thing stab vest just has more slots

[surreal pelican]

Stab vest gives 50% flat ballistic protection

[hexed escarp]

does it??? i thought it only protects against knives

[surreal pelican]

Yeah its L3; Kevlar. 50% protection according to the doc

[hexed escarp]

i honestly have never played with kevlar so i wouldnt know tbh

i've been a ceramic & steel lover my whole life

mostly steel tho

[surreal pelican]

Me neither

I'm thinking of bringing more 9 bangs or C2

I've never used C2 on myself; my bots have it

[hexed escarp]

9 bangs are the goat bro bring those for sure

[rocky plover]

stab vest and light/heavy with kevlar is different

[bitter mason]

Ceramic 4 life

[rocky plover]

one has 0% and other 50% and doesn't break

steel 4 life ever since it got buffed

[tired jungle]

Soft and hard kevlar are a difference between 3A and 3 which is a big distinction

[tired jungle]

I use ceramic for... realism sake ig

[rocky plover]

no, it's same as having no no armor, doesnt protect against knifes or melee damage either

[bitter mason]

They call me C Ramic

[tired jungle]

I like that getting hit on the plate does no damage till it breaks

[rocky plover]

ye on that i would agree with you lol

[rocky plover]

true

[bitter mason]

I like getting through missions without being a pin cushion so ceramic fully blocking hits is very nice

[hexed escarp]

why is it called a stab vest if it doesnt protect against stabbing 😭

[rocky plover]

idk ask void, description likes to say one thing and then the code says another thing lol

[bitter mason]

Steel plates cant even protect from stabbing let alone a stab vest

[tired jungle]

Could actually be viable for dorms or something if it did

rn it's useless

[rocky plover]

i guess they didn't know what name they were gonna give it, so they said yes! stab vest

[bitter mason]

I still want melee variety for suspects so its not just kitchen knives

[hexed escarp]

give the homeless their machetes 🙏

[rocky plover]

i wouldn't say useless, 15 slots is nice and i use it myself sometimes, better than the option for no armor with just 9 slots lol, but i guess that's for larping xD

[bitter mason]

If stab vests worked then different grades of melee could be more interesting

[bitter mason]

Real you know what im on about

[hexed escarp]

it'd be funny if there was a rare chance for melee suspects to spawn in with a full on longsword

[tired jungle]

Watch gerard pull a 10 inch machete

[bitter mason]

Going to los suenos to hand out free machetes to the homeless

[rocky plover]

maybe give the rioters a baseball bat

[bitter mason]

Rare chance for the streamer to have a katana

[rocky plover]

and give the MLO dom pedro sword

[hexed escarp]

it'd make shooting him feel even better

katanas are LAMESAUCE!!!

[tired jungle]

Workers on greased palms box cutters

[bitter mason]

Way I see it
Knives could range from really wimpy things like box cutters and utility Knives and gain in lethality and range with bayonets and combat Knives to machetes being the most dangerous
Blunt weapons ranging from batons to hammers would also be good

[hexed escarp]

ngl it'd be cool if the protestors could throw shit at you like the MLO

[rocky plover]

that's for kevlar and not stab vest, they're different btw

[hexed escarp]

like flares to distract you or bricks or smthn

[rocky plover]

ye lol

[somber monolith]

another pop baby

[rocky plover]

nice

[bitter mason]

Poop baby?

[somber monolith]

no

[rocky plover]

🤣

[somber monolith]

achieve pop, im too old for this

[hexed escarp]

VOID please give M9 bayonet attachment for the MK18 🙏

i must stab the homeless

[somber monolith]

tommorow starts the ironamn grind

and i'll need someone with more information to help me do sleeper agent

[bitter mason]

I meant like as a suspect knives left behind pulling out bayonets and kabars instead of kitchen knives but that too if

[pliant frost]

You play as SWAT, not as WW I soldier

[somber monolith]

we're officially at 6 in achievements left

[hexed escarp]

there were a few bayonet kills in afghanistan lmfao

the brits did a literal bayonet charge

[somber monolith]

the brits are crazy thats why

[pliant frost]

Afghanistan, not US Police lmfao

[hexed escarp]

still it'd be funny 🙏

[somber monolith]

i would prefer a baton

to cloaker larp

[hexed escarp]

baton would be good too as a tactical item maybe like pepper spray

[rocky plover]

2 choices for it;
either run and gun (the way i did it), but require restarts due to rng, can get difficult finding more than 13 or so suspects during the 15s of one another
or do it less lethally, arrest cancel everyone, secure all weapons including weapons caches, get them all in the same room with move command, then just arrest them all

[somber monolith]

so its soloable but nightmare fuel

i mean i non lethal everything anyway i just have to learn the cancel

[rocky plover]

yeah basically

[somber monolith]

i rather do it with a crew to ease my mind

[rocky plover]

ye understandable

[somber monolith]

surely there will be people to help

[rocky plover]

so i tested this again, and they never get backup for me, i've been waiting near a dude with his hands up kneeling for waaay long now I even tried getting close or further away he still didn't get back up. I even left unbagged weapons near him.

are you sure were doing the arrest cancel correctly?

[desert vapor]

Are the subtitles in this game wrong? Pretty sure I've had multiple times now where someone says something and the subtitles don't match what was said

[molten wasp]

Can't do It

[gray gulch]

I got a knife welding suspect to surrender.

He fakes it.

Pulls out another knife.

I tased him

He "died"

Got up and drew a third knife.

That's when I just capped him

[desert vapor]

You're in my way sir

[plush leaf]

FAFO moment

[molten wasp]

I can't S rank ANA, and this Is coming from someone who S ranked Grease palm, Relapse, 3 letter triad, no dude I can't do It, I'm giving up

[chilly thorn]

Subtitles most likely pull from the script itself, instead of the actors spoken lines. Actors will sometimes slightly change up the wording of the script if it feels more natural to them.

[gray gulch]

Get a mod to increase slot count

Gas launcher

[chilly thorn]

Gas launncher my beloved

[molten wasp]

I'm on console

[gray gulch]

Rip

[chilly thorn]

then say bye bye to your grenades and go full spicy smoke

[gray gulch]

It's a bit underwhelming at times but

Carrying 130 gas grenades does make it easier to just dump six per meter of any map.

[desert vapor]

I see. Thanks for the info

[bitter mason]

The subtitles are mostly auto generated

[keen rover]

baton would go so well with the shield

[chilly thorn]

Nah they are not typed like ai would type. Ai has very obvious typing, especially in 2023 when the subtitles released.

[molten wasp]

I've S ranked the main story, home Invasion, dark water, los suenos stories, and two boiling point mission on hard except ANA

[bitter mason]

I mean the subtitles not like briefing transcripts
(Some of which do feel ai generated)

[desert vapor]

Tho I'm still a bit confused since the hand suspects say 'they've butchered our people in cold blood.'

But the subtitles say 'that boy butchered our people in cold blood.'

I guess that was the only thing that confused me

[bitter mason]

Thats the auto generated subtitles

[keen rover]

which dlc do you like best?

[chilly thorn]

Yes subtitles and briefings aren't ai, Simply reading them for more then 2 seconds makes it obvious.

[bitter mason]

There's a line where a swat officer says "going in" on a breach but the subtitles say "go again"

[desert vapor]

Why not just pull from the script like someone else said? I don't know I'm not a game dev

[bitter mason]

Shout out to when "door jam" used to read "store jam" in the subtitles

[chilly thorn]

Just making shit up T~T

[keen rover]

I'd rather they use AI for subtitles than for models or animations

[desert vapor]

Or not use ai at all

[bitter mason]

I'm literally not subtitles in this game have been wrong since launch
They've ironed out some of them but the cracks are still there

[keen rover]

subtitles is tedious

[gray gulch]

Yeah Ana is particularly hard.

Ignoring AI being blatantly fucked.

Lorewise your fighting people who don't mind dying so making them surrender is harder

[desert vapor]

Yeah I've noticed that one too

[keen rover]

using AI for tedious work is fine imo

[molten wasp]

Home Invasion, narcos Is my favourite because you go door to door plus the ost slaps, 3 letter triad Is another favourite because It's SWAT vs ex-tier one units

[bitter mason]

The subtitles are likely using the same auto generation things like YouTube use

[keen rover]

which is drunk

[chilly thorn]

I've only seen reasonable typos and grammarical errors, Along side slight differences to dialouge. For example "Nah Fuck That!" Subtitle says "Nah Screw that."

[desert vapor]

I like clean drinking water actually

[keen rover]

that water came from dinosaur pee

[bitter mason]

Then you're not looking enough
And like I said many of these were fixed

[gray gulch]

Unfortunately for the terrorists, vets and suspects in general: m249

[somber monolith]

LMAOOO

[chilly thorn]

It also cant be ai since the subtitles are written before the dialouge is recorded

[somber monolith]

hes like "but you'd never suspect MY THIRD KNIFE!"

[chilly thorn]

MLO subtitles were in the game before they even had voicelines

[keen rover]

script not subtitles

[bitter mason]

Script and subtitles are different things

[chilly thorn]

The subtitles just go after a script that can also be found in some of the files

[somber monolith]

or flash if your feeling froggy

[keen rover]

go double gas launchers

[bitter mason]

Then void have some terrible quality control if they let door jam be subtitled as "store jam"

[molten wasp]

ANA Is just another grease palm, I'm giving up I'm not S ranking ANA on hard

[gray gulch]

Side note with this update I swear the hit reg has become worse.

Took three near point blank buckshot rounds to drop the crackheads in the car dealership at times.

[desert vapor]

Deploying store jam

[keen rover]

maybe they like eating store jam and got hungry

[rocky plover]

it's because they're AI subtitles lol, the classic Door Jam Go literally subtitle for it is George M hahahahha

[chilly thorn]

Again thats not real, I played a bunch of fucking 1.0 and I use wedges all the time and I've never seen it. There is actual AI use in that game get mad at them for that.

[desert vapor]

I've noticed worse hit reg too

[bitter mason]

My man you are glazing for the sake of it now
I have seen that subtitle with my own eyes
And still see mistakes to this day

[gray gulch]

Port hokan is especially more annoying because shitty tec 9 can nail you from across the containers yet your G3A3 won't drop the guy

[somber monolith]

yea i dont think you can reasonably do it without mods but if you ever feel the itch use the 1301 shotgun and free lean every corner

[chilly thorn]

and I've never seen it, and it doesn't make sense to do ai when the subtitles are written in before the dialouge is recorded, Sound mistakes can't be made with no sound to go off of.

[rocky plover]

I managed to do it on standard, still need to do S on hard though, last one that I need for all hard S

[bitter mason]

Oh sorry sorry your highness you've never noticed it so its not real and the game is totally perfect

[molten wasp]

I play on both platforms, I've done it on console legit and for PC with mods

[chilly thorn]

I literally critisize this fucking game all the time but I don't make up some bullshit I focus on the real issues jackass

[somber monolith]

allow me to introduce to you, the m32 flash, send big flash there way, beats little boolet your way

[rocky plover]

@chilly thorn you seen this?

[somber monolith]

have you tried no crack?

[molten wasp]

Yeah

[chilly thorn]

no sorry, You mean where you quickly cancel it out and the gun falls off right?

[bitter mason]

I'm not making shit up it literally was a known problem throughout 1.0 😭

[somber monolith]

i did it with no crack using this kriss vector that gave me a strobe light, it blinded nearby fuckos and it came in 50 ae

[rocky plover]

ye cos you said they fixed it, and I tested again, and I can still do it

[chilly thorn]

I didn't mean it doesn't disarm them, they can just get back up now at least from my expierence

[somber monolith]

if you want the mod set i can hook you up might help

[chilly thorn]

I've only been playing boiling point levels recently so maybe for some reason void only fixed it for certain suspects lol

[molten wasp]

I love to replay RoN on PC but my PC needs new specs

[somber monolith]

you only really need it on 3 letter triad (the arrest glitch)

[chilly thorn]

Might be tied to weapon caches drawing them like flies

[somber monolith]

grim

[rocky plover]

that's the thing i meant about, they dont get back up for me

[rocky plover]

^

[somber monolith]

if you take all there weapons they're just dudes with fists

[desert vapor]

Im so proud I actually s ranked it

[somber monolith]

[rocky plover]

i didnt take their weapons, and they still didnt get back up

[somber monolith]

im just saying

[chilly thorn]

idk man lol every copy of ron is personalized theory

[somber monolith]

you dont necessarily need to do the glitch

[marsh lark]

Right guys, I can see every now and then some pushing or insults being thrown out. So please calm down and discuss this properly before this discussion gets shut down

[molten wasp]

Might get A+ on ANA

[bitter mason]

Bit late for that now its over and done with

[somber monolith]

from the time you purchase its RNG lmao

[rocky plover]

lol

[chilly thorn]

You know theres a possibility it was just written by some dude on their phone on notepad watching tv or something and it was the phones auto correct

That would be funny

[somber monolith]

nah its definitely just a dude listening blindly to audio with NO context

and its like "wait?? store jam??? i guess."

https://tenor.com/view/confused-stare-at-paper-gif-5257839294650729742

[chilly thorn]

nah from the MLO datamine subtitle thing it proves subtitles are written before dialouge is recorded

[somber monolith]

grim

i still think its a funny theory

some justin roiland shit to just make it up on the spot based off what they thought they heard

[chilly thorn]

Poor tiny subtitle man in their office trying to figure out what the fuck The los locos are saying

[desert vapor]

Store jam go

[somber monolith]

LOL

subtitle man is an npc in every mission that lives in the walls

he hears shit all muffled and disembodied

[marsh lark]

Perhaps some things were ready for this DLC, or just a placeholder for when it would be useful, however a lot of things were not prepared and were done on the go.

[chilly thorn]

I wish this game actually typed out what they were saying in spanish rather then just "(Speaking Spanish)"

but they probably wanted to do the max payne 3 thing where they wanted to alienate people from understanding their comms

[somber monolith]

im not shitting on it over subtitles im just chiming in with funny ideas of how they happened

[rocky plover]

George M

[somber monolith]

not like the cartel members really had anything of intelligence to say to eachother

"aww shiet man, the cops are here"

[chilly thorn]

The ones on narcos are fucking crazy

[somber monolith]

me kicking in the door with a flashbang

[chilly thorn]

To be fair the ones on narcos are like cartel hitmen and shit

[somber monolith]

ehhh its decent ig

[chilly thorn]

"THAT HURRICANE GOT NOTHING ON US!" "EAT IT EAT IT EAT IT!!" "THEIRS GONNA BE BLOOD IN THE STREETS TONIGHT WOOOHOOOOOO!"

[somber monolith]

everyone whether it be the crackhead from twisted nerve or the super soldier from A New America is subject to the 6 round flashbang grenade launcher i call my wife

so it makes no difference whos on the recieving end

or what they have to say to eachother

[chilly thorn]

Taser is technically the most overpowered weapon in existence since it can some how piece full body armor

[rocky plover]

the difference is (especially on hard), 1 might surrender with 1 shot and the other might take the whole drum lol

[somber monolith]

taser is my cqc pairing to the flash launcher

[rocky plover]

ye same it's a good backup for whenever they are preparing to get back up

[somber monolith]

i shall happily waste it on him as i move onto the 5 others stored on my kit magically

[rocky plover]

6 taser shots for 1 slot is good economy i'd say as well

[somber monolith]

you know what

[chilly thorn]

its 3 taser shots

[somber monolith]

i want a modded vest that has nothing but DRUMS for the m32 on the front and side of it instead of pouches

[somber monolith]

with each "cartridge" you get 2 shots

[rocky plover]

2 shots per cartridge though so 6 shots - 3 cartridges

[somber monolith]

its 3 cartridges but 6 shots

[rocky plover]

exactly^

[chilly thorn]

Oh well I usually use both on someone because it feels more meaty

[somber monolith]

waste

[chilly thorn]

that and the op taser bash

[rocky plover]

used to be 4 cartridges, 8 shots when they reworked the taser

[somber monolith]

then again i spam flashes on dudes i dislike

[rocky plover]

and put it in tacticals instead of secondary weapon

[somber monolith]

taser bash is elite though

[cedar mulch]

In real life, cartel members are equipped with bulletproof shields and battering rams. I wonder if we’ll see any enemies wielding shields in the next DLC.

[rocky plover]

ye taser bash is op

[somber monolith]

and its realistic irl its called a contact tase

[somber monolith]

doesnt mean they know how to use them well

[chilly thorn]

Also funny thing you cant get ANY ROE losses with the taser bash so you can bash ANYONE who is arrested even civillians and still get an S, So have fun.

[somber monolith]

also keep in mind we're on the US side not mexico

shit works different

[rocky plover]

and listen to the funny groans everytime xD

[somber monolith]

same with flash lmao

[chilly thorn]

MLO scream like crazy when getting tased which I guess fits their lore

[cedar mulch]

In Ron’s world, Mexican cartels have deeply infiltrated the United States. In Narcos, they sent heavily armed hitmen to assassinate American police officers.

[somber monolith]

Random suit woman on any map: FUCK YOU
shoots flashbang at their face

[stoic thistle]

They took over a full neighborhood too. I wonder how that didn't become a big story.

[somber monolith]

ehh specifically one and its not like they were sent that was their hood

[rocky plover]

ever saw that clip? of her saying I dont listen to cops, immediately shoots near here, and says Ok im listening

shits so funny hahahhahaha

[somber monolith]

lmfao every fucking time

[chilly thorn]

"I ain't going to fucking Jail, beanbag. Yes sir."

[rocky plover]

🤣

[somber monolith]

funnier when the criminal says "YOU WONT TAKE ME ALIVE" points anything at them "OKAY OKAY THIS ISNT WORTH MY LIFE"

[rocky plover]

hahahah, change of heart

[cedar mulch]

That neighbourhood was just where the undercover agent was staying; it wasn’t cartel territory.

[stoic thistle]

The average terrorist can be defeated by powdered lead in a wool sock.

[somber monolith]

iirc it was a hood controlled by the cartel, him staying there was both his residence and part of his job as a undercover cop

[glass nest]

Where do you find that one cannon pistol

[somber monolith]

lmao

[cedar mulch]

RON Cartel even wanted to kill the FBI agent. In the backstory, Adams was deemed to be of no further use to them.

[somber monolith]

thats true but then again he was also corrupt

[chilly thorn]

Also something interesting if you get an MLO to shoot themselves all the ones nearby them will as well, and they all will shout "Sig Semper Tyrannis" when they do it with varying levels of fear as if its being forced as part of their programming.

[cedar mulch]

Are you referring to heavily armed killers running amok in the United States? And the fact that they even tried to kill an FBI agent at the post office?

[rocky plover]

oh shit I see that ruining some S runs lol

[chilly thorn]

I'm pretty sure the Greased palms suspects are just goons, they talk about how they never seen a dead person before.

[somber monolith]

its not like they were directly targetting law enforcement as a whole, only real instance of that would be kinda buy cheap buy twice which does happen to be the cartel controlled but even then it was more of a defense tactic

[desert vapor]

Can someone explain to me why everyone calls judge a pookie

[cedar mulch]

Not to mention that the car dealership also has Los Locos; Los Locos and Russian mafia deliberately killed a police squad to demonstrate their refusal to surrender

[somber monolith]

its one thing to target a undercover operating in your area, or a fed on your payrole a complete other to randomly start lacing up cops in your area with bulletholes

[rocky plover]

wdym by everyone, I don't lol

[somber monolith]

it was less of deliberately killing as it was defense of their territory to hide what they were doing

[desert vapor]

I mean, a lot of people call him their pookie bear

[chilly thorn]

Cuz he’s cute and the mc

[rocky plover]

lol

[chilly thorn]

And he gotta FAT ASS

[desert vapor]

He looks depressed af

[desert vapor]

Can't say I ever paid attention to that part

[stoic jackal]

Judge really needs to start opening up his mail

[chilly thorn]

Dude equip the jeans

It’s actually ridiculous

[somber monolith]

middle aged veteran exists
fans: "Omg so modest and demure"

[chilly thorn]

35 year old depressed man with no soul behind his eyes and a dead family

[desert vapor]

I wonder if they'd still call him their pookie if they s ranked AnA and saw how he lives

[desert vapor]

For science

[chilly thorn]

We all had floor mattress once

[somber monolith]

why do the women i know attach themselves to that fantasy of a soulless depressed man whos just lucky enough to survive the shitstorm that happens to be his everyday life

[desert vapor]

But I didn't have an insignia painted on the wall of a covert sleeper agent cell

[chilly thorn]

You didn’t?!!! Someone missed the trend…

[desert vapor]

My bad bro

[stoic jackal]

He also hasn’t checked his mail

[chilly thorn]

He really needs to check his mail

[somber monolith]

he also hasnt uncluttered his bedroom enough to get in it

or pick up a different hobby

[desert vapor]

I feel like the fan mail has the potential to depress him even more

[jolly owl]

what are the soft objectives on the bank level?

[somber monolith]

most definitely

[chilly thorn]

One of the letters is from the White House

[desert vapor]

The safe, and finding all bombs

[somber monolith]

you've completed it if you found the laptop and got the bombs, it wont end because theres a secret vault opening

[stoic jackal]

I get that assemble and disassemble cleaning and shooting at the range are the only two things he can fully commit to but he must take in he needs new hobbies

[desert vapor]

What does it say?

[cedar mulch]

If you don’t believe in the power of Los Locos, I reckon you should take a look at RON art book; in the backstory, Los Locos deliberately target high-ranking officials and law enforcement officers, causing large-scale disappearances across the city.

[chilly thorn]

Can’t read it he doesn’t read his mail

[desert vapor]

He should start playing golf

[somber monolith]

and yet when i get to them they aint shit but annoying gang members who cant shoot for shit

[chilly thorn]

One sad thing is that judge probably doesn’t even realize his family is dead

[desert vapor]

Also judge body pillows exist

[stoic jackal]

Yeah or something that isn’t his current hobbies

[jolly owl]

we already opened the vault

[somber monolith]

i dont know i guess i have a skewed view of the criminal groups because of how easily i've toppled them

[junior vessel]

whats up chart

[desert vapor]

Abby can teach him

[chilly thorn]

I’m laying on it right now

[pseudo hull]

felt like i was playing payday

[gusty marten]

tried narcos for the first time, headshot 3 people so i called it quits and just backed out😭😭

[junior vessel]

why yall not in school onb

[stoic jackal]

I bet someone sent fan mail and it’s just some spunk in there saying “Here’s my DNA evidence”

[jagged quartz]

Abby?

[somber monolith]

yea it wont end until you've done it regardless of if you've done it before, but if you just end when youg et all the evidence the soft obj and the civs you'll be fine

[gusty marten]

What could possibly be the context

[cedar mulch]

In fact, in the game, their accuracy is no different from that of the professional suspects, because VOID likes to make the Cartel particularly powerful at the post office.

[stoic jackal]

Judge really needs to check his mail

[desert vapor]

I don't know if I want to believe you

[somber monolith]

i would lwk blow my sh smoove off

[chilly thorn]

It’s probably a
Bunch of letters from his therapist

[gusty marten]

Probably like death threats from the hand or sum

[desert vapor]

Yeah. From the last of us?

[chilly thorn]

Police station therapist repeatably voices concerns about him

[desert vapor]

:(

[stoic jackal]

Joel became such a pro at golf that he was unfortunately unable to move like he used to and unfortunately passed away from excitement

[chilly thorn]

Someone mailed judge their judge x triggerman art

[desert vapor]

Abby is a pro at joel in one

[chilly thorn]

This is CANON it’s in the lore

[gusty marten]

theres ready or not ships???😭😭😭

[desert vapor]

For people who have lost the plot

[echo frigate]

I hate A New America bro, what is this evil ass staircase

[stoic jackal]

What do you guys reckon is the worse thing in Judge’s mail

[stoic thistle]

A bomb.

[desert vapor]

Things that cannot be stated here

[chilly thorn]

Dude did you HEAR the way triggerman talks to judge “Don’t worry David, this won’t affect your grade in our eyes, your still an S to us”

[somber monolith]

judge x voll wattpad smut

[stoic jackal]

Tick tick tick tick tick tick tick

[gusty marten]

idek who triggerman is

[desert vapor]

Speaking off, how does no one notice the teddy bear with a bomb sticking out of it in thr police station 😭

[chilly thorn]

He is the man over the radio in a new America the MLO leader

[echo frigate]

The Voll files

[stoic jackal]

He wants to make sure that he doesn’t beat himself up over not being able to go home

[somber monolith]

over being fired

[desert vapor]

He triggers sjw's on Twitter

[stoic thistle]

Either it was put there by a cop, or it was defused.

[stoic jackal]

It detonates when he kills a civilian and returns home

[somber monolith]

im assuming its defused..

[chilly thorn]

Ready or not if it was WOOOKE (it’s the same game)

[echo frigate]

THATS WHY IM SAYING I wish people would react when you check evidence

[somber monolith]

console update

[desert vapor]

Is judge woke? Or is he an alpha male?

[stoic thistle]

I've said this before, but the teddy bear bomb might have been targeted at Detective Reed.

[somber monolith]

judge listens to jocko

[stoic jackal]

Neither he’s just there

[echo frigate]

At least they fixed the teddy bear from thank you come agains fur texture on console

[somber monolith]

and joe rogan

[stoic jackal]

“We’ll take the stairs”

[desert vapor]

Probably since she's a pretty big investigator

[stoic thistle]

Judge will slap you in the head regardless of your ethnicity or gender.

[somber monolith]

TRUE!!!

[desert vapor]

Judge doesn't discriminate. A true progressive

[chilly thorn]

Judge is probably too brain dead to even know what’s going on in LS

[stoic jackal]

“Hammer of Justice is unisex

[desert vapor]

Then again he is a cop

[somber monolith]

is it racist to listen for arabic on neon tomb and relapse